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Topic: Trivia(Archive1)
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Musnud
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posted 02-13-2002 03:55 PM
Okay, I'll try to get this thing moving.
What reference is made to a modern restaurant chain?
To clarify, this is obviously not an intentional reference, just a similarity in words.
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Marcho Blackwood
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posted 02-14-2002 11:49 AM
It took me a while, but the penny finally dropped and I knew what to look for!
There is the reference to the jack-in-the-boxes by Beorn.
Which, incidently, is an answer that we missed on the trivia question many months back about games played in The Shire.
For any non-American types, Jack-in-the-Box is a fast food burger chain, similar to Wimpy's or MacDonald's.
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Musnud
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posted 02-14-2002 03:58 PM
Quite right, Marcho. And good job finding the answer so quickly! I half expected that one to be a stumper.
At any rate, it's your go. ![[]](icon14.gif)
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Marcho Blackwood
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posted 02-15-2002 08:35 AM
Well, Musnod, I was half expecting you to say that I had an answer, but it wasn't the one you were referring to!
We know there were butchers in the Shire, but can you name all the types of meat that were eaten or mentioned in The Hobbit?
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Peregrin Took
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posted 02-16-2002 01:21 AM
mutton, bacon, dwarf and men(the dragon ate these), ham...
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Eöl the Dark Elf
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posted 02-16-2002 05:29 AM
+pony?
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Marcho Blackwood
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posted 02-16-2002 07:34 AM
I wasn't counting men and ponies, though they were certainly eaten!
There are at least three other types of meat mentioned.
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The Laurenendôrian
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posted 02-16-2002 10:32 AM
Veal, rabbit, pork (if this doesn't fall under 'bacon' and chicken.
Any good?
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Marcho Blackwood
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posted 02-16-2002 03:26 PM
Chicken and rabbit (and for some reason, Tolkien mentions that the eagles brought them both hares and rabbits) were two of the three. I was kinda lumping ham/pork into a single one, but they are separate.
We're only missing one! It is mentioned in a rather strange place, without any other food being mentioned near by. Which was, of course, the whole problem. ![[]](wink.gif)
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Bungo
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posted 02-16-2002 07:25 PM
Sounds like you are talking about Roast Squirrel. ![[]](icon32.gif)
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Marcho Blackwood
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posted 02-16-2002 08:27 PM
Bungo,
I had forgotten about the roast squirrel! There is another one that is similar, and they didn't actually get to eat it.
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Bungo
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posted 02-16-2002 09:06 PM
Does hunting for deer count as 'venison'?
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Marcho Blackwood
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posted 02-17-2002 10:35 AM
Venison is the one! And the book actually uses the word venison, but Bombar fell in the river and drove the thought from their minds.
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Bungo
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posted 02-17-2002 06:25 PM
Okay, here's one that needs some set up. It's inspired by the wonderful question from Musnud about Fili and Kili coming over for breakfast.
Imagine that somewhere in Valinor, maybe in the Halls of Mandos, there's a small gathering around Bilbo's little book. Thingol, Turgon and Finrod are reading it and looking for any mention of themselves. Elrond's family background is too sketchy and doesn't count. Turgon is really happy to find the two swords of Gondolin, and all of them scratch their heads over the 'light elves' and 'deep elves' stuff. But now Thingol and Finrod are wanting to read about themselves, to be even with Turgon.
Suddenly they read one sentence and sit back and look at each other and say, "Ah, there we are!"
What sentence did they read?
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Musnud
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posted 02-18-2002 09:25 PM
Wow! Nice question! I'm gonna have to get out my Silmarillion for this one. (Or should I check Unfinished Tales?)
At any rate, this may take a while...
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Bungo
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posted 02-19-2002 12:10 AM
No need for anything except The Hobbit, together with the setup of my question. ![[]](icon51.gif)
But if this helps any newbies; Turgon, Thingol and Finrod Felagund were three of the more prominent Elven Kings of the Eldar Days. That's all you need to know to figure out what sentence they were happy to find.
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Musnud
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posted 02-19-2002 08:26 AM
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If the elf-king had a weakness it was for treasure, especially for silver and white gems; and though his hoard was rich, he was ever eager for more, since he had not yet as great a treasure as other elf-lords of old.
I found this last night but didn't have a chance to get online and post it. Hopefully this is what you're referring to. If it is, your "Deep-Elves" comments helped.
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Bungo
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posted 02-19-2002 05:19 PM
Doh!!
Why did I say anything about Deep Elves???
You got it Musnud. Nice one. Your go.
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Musnud
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posted 02-20-2002 12:14 PM
The dwarves decide that they need jobs, so they go searching for "Help Wanted" signs. They find one on the local Hotel Erebor for a front desk clerk and a baggage-handler. Thorin immediately grabs the front desk job, and leaves the others to fight for the remaining spot. But one of the dwarves steps aside and says, "The rest of you can have it, I've done enough of this work already!"
Which dwarf is it, and how do we know this?
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Marcho Blackwood
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posted 02-20-2002 12:22 PM
Very nice question! I like the way you set it up and worded it! I was sure I knew exactly where to find it, (I was right) but couldn't remember which dwarf it was.
Dori! He complains
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"I can't be always carrying burglars on my back," said Dori, "down tunnels and up trees! What do you think I am? A porter?"
Is that the reference your looking for? I've got a good question if it is!
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Musnud
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posted 02-20-2002 03:51 PM
Exactly right, Marcho. Did I make it too easy with that setup?
Nonetheless, what goes around comes around, so I do believe it's your turn. I look forward to your question.
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Marcho Blackwood
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posted 02-20-2002 04:13 PM
We are aware of Tolkien's use of Middle English words for various items, adding to the charm and depth behind his universe.
There are many references to things glowing. There are glowing swords, glowing smoke, glowing skies, glowing fires and sparks and a glowing dragon. There is another 'glowing' item in The Hobbit, though it is identified as such using an old English word. Name it!
No, gleaming is not it, though there are lots of gleaming eyes, The Arkenstone, gleaming swords and spears and the gleaming sun.
Alas! Hoist by an off edition! The above question is not valid, I fear. I have checked two other editions of The Hobbit, the first American and the 17th Ballentine, and neither of them use the word, it seems to have been used only in the electronic version I have. The word I was looking for was 'gloaming' which was used instead of gleaming to describe the hair of the elves in Mirkwood.
So, new question. Where was the seat of government of the Goblins?
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Bungo
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posted 02-20-2002 08:58 PM
Ha! Marcho, I love the hoard of precious volumes you have!
Without having the book nearby, (my common paperback edition which most of us unwashed masses must content ourselves with,) I would guess 'Goblin Town'. (Down, down to Goblin town...)
This would be as opposed to the more literal guess of the actual 'throne' of the Goblin King.
Anyway, I always enjoy your word questions, like making beer in Middle Earth, or malt shops or sock hops, or whatever. Even though I am semantically challenged and they give me headaches.
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Marcho Blackwood
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posted 02-20-2002 09:22 PM
Amazingly enough, there is a specific location provided! And Goblin Town isn't it!
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Musnud
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posted 02-20-2002 10:42 PM
Aha! It took awhile, but I found it! Their capital was in Mount Gundabad, the Northernmost Peak of the Misty Mountains!
Given that this is the answer you were looking for, I'll be back in the morning with my next question...
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