ariel pink is to: rotten sloppy joes AS excepter is to: overpriced rancid foie gras

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worst show of the year? tonic tonight. excepter and ariel pink. granted Hisham's "A soft circle" was really good, excepter and ariel pink were pretty much equally shitty for totally different reasons (as Poortheater can attest to)
Excepter decided to wank off on stage, complete with lead female singer wearing a fur coat and sunglasses (indoors of course) and lead male vocalist wearing some sort of "skat" hat, jumping aroun stage. the "DJ" as it were, never faced us, and only rewarded the few that stuck around to watch with the occasional sample or beat.
all in all, i heard about a dozen people gripe about the pretentiousness of the band and all around gratingness of the music.
Now Ariel Pink is a different story. I think his recordings are fun and interesting, although not entirely amazing. Kinda like if they show up on shuffle I like it, but I can't sit through a whole album of his noodling. I was excited to see how he's play a show, and was really hoping he'd either A: reinterpret the songs in an interesting way, or B: have rehearsed them so they'd at least sound fuller or true to the album.
Unfortunately he chose C: play a sloppy , unrehearsed drunken version of them, with his minions who haphazardly screamed into the mics for no particular reason, with tons of feedback. Midway through the show i stepped out for a cigarette and found about half the audience outside taking a "break". The c onsensus was unanimous. the show was crap.
It seemed ariel and his gang were giving the big middle finger to the audience, with the attitude of "well we suck, we don't care, you paid ten bucks, here we go playing a crap verison of what you wanted to hear". I don't buy the well it's wild and free act, b/c his drunken mumblings and staggered swagger seemed more rehearsed than the actual songs.

I knew the evening was shot when the hopped up on redbull (no joke) keyboard player declared in a totally ironic but unfunny way that he was there for the pussy.

all in all it sucked. i stayed the whole set too except for the cig break.
wasn't worth the time or money.

and from what i heard most seemed to feel that way

-- breezy (breezypoint7...), April 16th, 2005. (1 trackback)

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uhhh. ok.

the show was rad.

-- cutty (holle...), April 16th, 2005.


Wow, a guy who makes crazy ramshackle one-man-band recordings on his cassette multitrack doesn't put on a tight live performance? I'm outraged.

-- walter kranz (kranz_walte...), April 16th, 2005.


ARIEL PINK SUCKS SO HARD

-- Tyrone Willie Demetrius DeAndre DeShawn (power.strik...), April 16th, 2005.


wow, i would've never guessed breezy wouldn't like Excepter. who'da thunk it?

-- lemin (jlync...), April 16th, 2005.


i'll give you pink (dude's got shtick but it's bratty richie rich shit), but, from where i was standing (next to the old video camera guy who used to have one huge dred but who's since cut off said one huge dred), excepter was spectacular. misfit toys, or autistics with telepathy, and it's the most exciting stuff happening in the city right now (no question). esp seeing them live you start to piece together their logic, how they interact with one another, etc.

xpost lemin

btw (funny this hasn't been mentioned yet-- maybe this isn't really special) r. stevie moore showed up and played as part of the haunted graffiti. he was wearing a bright orange outfit at the bottom of his pants he had an embroidered monopoly guy patch. ariel did "hanging with my heroes".

-- Nick Sylvester (nick...), April 16th, 2005.


haha the "DJ" was dan hougland from other music btw

-- Nick Sylvester (nick...), April 16th, 2005.


oops, when i said show was rad, i was ONLY referring to excepter. i left before ariel pink went on.

breezy mentioned in the GGD thread that he thinks excepter are crap. then he pays $10 to see them and post here how much they sucked?

-- cutty (holle...), April 16th, 2005.


breezy/poortheatre should not venture away from their nyu dorms.

-- cutty (holle...), April 16th, 2005.


cutty get a grip. i dont' go to NYU. I've been out of college for years. you think obviously it's super cool to "dig" pretentious girls flopping around in sunglasses and fur coast moaning into a mic. I knew the DJ was the Other Music guy but who cares. I paid ten bucks to see if Ariel Pink would do something cool. instead he wasted my time with drunken yelling and pointlessness. It's annoying and insulting and I think the few people I heard say they liked it are just saying that for fear of dicks like cutty shutting them down. as for seeing excepter, I wanted to give them another shot. I saw them once before and was unimpressed, but not annoyed, this time they decided to go further and just act like idiots on stage. I saw seriously dozens of people leaving during both shows. Obviously Cutty was one of the hardcore fans up front casually nodding his head, really FEELING the moaning. you go cutty.

-- breezy (breezypoint7...), April 16th, 2005.


as for Ariel who makes ramshackle recordings on his tape recorder being bad live. He's been on tour for 3 months. Playing his set every night. You;d think he'd eventually FIGURE OUT a way to get slightly tighter and would WANT to sound good. Honestly it seemed like noone on stage cared, all night, including excepter. Ps. Tell the Other Music guy to turn around.

-- breezy (breezypoint7...), April 16th, 2005.


RIGHT, BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE WAS "PRETENDING" TO ENJOY THE PERFORMANCE.

-- cutty (holle...), April 16th, 2005.


yeah, god forbid some people actually like music like that

-- lemin (jlync...), April 16th, 2005.


SOME PEOPLE EVEN "PRETENDED" TO BUY EXCEPTER'S NEW CD.

(it was all a stage though, tendered in fake money)

-- cutty (holle...), April 16th, 2005.


so clever cutty! so clever! any excuses for the ridiculous stage presence as well? or were you into that pretention too? ultimately it's run of the mill noise. don't worry cutty, even you will forget about it one day too.

-- breezy (breezypoint7...), April 16th, 2005.


you don't have to include "is to" if you include a colon.

-- mitch dub (w!mbis...), April 16th, 2005.


excuses:pretention as noise:$10

-- cutty (holle...), April 16th, 2005.


oh man who's gonna drop the 'you just don't GET x" card?! fucking do it cutty

-- Nick Sylvester (nick...), April 16th, 2005.


nick, you just did!

-- cutty (holle...), April 16th, 2005.


really, i respect breezy's opinion but his hyperbole is growing a little tiresome.

on an earlier thread he describes gang gang dance as "the worst band ever," and in this thread, calls last night's show "worst of the year."

YO, WE GET IT. YOU DON'T LIKE THESE BANDS. STOP LISTENING TO THEM/PAYING TO SEE THEM AND YOU'LL GET OVER IT. STOP BEING SO AMAZED THAT OTHERS DERIVE PLEASURE FROM THEM.

-- cutty (holle...), April 16th, 2005.


ok. GGD not worst band ever. Last night's show really was the worst I've seen this year. cutty's defensiveness---alarming. either you are in one of these bands, or are friends with them.

I paid to see Ariel Pink. he put on a really poor show. I think anyone can see that. Excepter was just an unfortunate encounter I will SURELY avoid at all costs in the future. so fear not cutty, you wont have to read anymore posts about at least my opposing view to yours.

warning to others: be careful not to disagree with cutty. he takes is VERY personally if you don't see eye to eye with him. god forbid you exagerrate for a moment on the holy grail ILM.

-- breezy (breezypoint7...), April 16th, 2005.


breezy/poortheatre should not venture away from their nyu dorms.

hahaha, oh man.

in retrospect, i actually did like the excepter set. they are the most motley crew i have ever seen on stage. they had it all: the slacker; the Sky Masterson; the Buchenwald inmate; the patchouli fiend; "Her Sneak" shelob, last spawn of the ungoliant. they'd be a bang-up act if they wouldn't take themselves so seriously. i didn't mind that the DJ didn't face us (besides, that guy's always really nice to me when i go into OM-- i didn't know he was in the group).

the ariel pink show was just plain bad. they sounded like shit! you could tell that they knew it, too. i kind of wanted to say, "Please don't play another song until you get your shit together. We like you but you sound terrible." he probably would have obliged, too. i don't think he was trying to hoodwink us. i felt bad, though, because i think his parents were standing right in front of me.. and you're right, breezy, there was a definite vibe of, "Am I not getting this or does this suck?" i left after "wait for kate."

from where i was standing (next to the old video camera guy who used to have one huge dred but who's since cut off said one huge dred)

you were standing right next to me! i thought about yelling out, "ILXOR!!!" just to see how many of you were there, but.. that dude that used to have the one huge dread-- doesn't he sometimes play with Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey when they play in nyc?

that was R. Stevie Moore!? i don't really know his music, but isn't he, like, the original Ariel Pink? That would have been like Throbbing Gristle playing on stage with Excepter! I wanted to grab the mic every time that spider banshee came down and bumped into me and say, "What-a-day-what-a-day-what-a-day-Oh-Oh!"

Is the new Excepter CD good? I like KA.

And, for the record, I love Gang Gang Dance!

-- poortheatre (gah24...), April 16th, 2005.


next to the old video camera guy who used to have one huge dred but who's since cut off said one huge dred

Joly, http://www.punkcast.com/ he who printed all those old pins for like, Rough Trade and The Roxy era-punk bands. A true legend and punk rock-n-roll soldier. I think he played with Hawkwind once in the 70s.

-- Dan Selzer (danselze...), April 16th, 2005.


xpost to mitch dub - isn't it a double colon so x:y::w:r?

i think that adam forkner should do a double bill with ariel pink - the show (at least for philly) would last maybe a total of 15 min or so?

-- blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.lif...), April 16th, 2005.


Poortheatre - I am in love. Call me.

-- Greenwich CT (inf...), April 16th, 2005.


haha, it's him!

-- poortheatre (gah24...), April 16th, 2005.


i'll only accept criticism from members of GANG GANG DANCE

-- noizem duke (dan...), April 16th, 2005.


"NICE WHITE HAT"

sorry el excepterinos, i really wanted to go but couldn't leave teh beisbol until 3 AM. : (

-- hstencil (hstenc!...), April 16th, 2005.


I love cutty!

Talk about Soft Circle please!

-- Samuel Glickstein (adamr...), April 16th, 2005.


the times i've seen hisham solo it's been sorta disappointing but maybe he was good last night, i dunno. johan santana gave up his first homerun since august of last year, but still got 10 strikeouts and the win, dig?

-- hstencil (hstenc!...), April 16th, 2005.


Hstencil, you couldn't have chosen a more appropriate metaphor with which to confuse me.

-- Samuel Glickstein (adamr...), April 16th, 2005.


ask gygax! about johan santana, dude.

-- hstencil (hstenc!...), April 16th, 2005.


THIS THREAD RULES!

-- ddb (stupidpum...), April 18th, 2005.


warning to others: be careful not to disagree with cutty. he takes is VERY personally if you don't see eye to eye with him. god forbid you exagerrate for a moment on the holy grail ILM.

-- breezy (breezypoint7...), April 16th, 2005.

-- the Stanmore signal (adamr...), June 17th, 2005.


the holy grail ILM.

-- the Stanmore signal (adamr...), June 17th, 2005.


the holy grail ILM.

-- the Stanmore signal (adamr...), June 17th, 2005.


cutty IS the law, cheese.

-- The Sensational Sulk (jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj...), June 17th, 2005.


i'm probably high on all sorts of shit

-- noizem duke (dan...), June 17th, 2005.


Labrador? What's that, man?

-- The Sensational Sulk (jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj...), June 17th, 2005.


IT IS A TOOTHPICK

-- cutty (holle...), June 17th, 2005.


cutty is PERRY MASON and HAMILTON BERGER combined.

-- Earl Summerfield (ketoacidosi...), June 17th, 2005.


NICE HAT

-- DAEREST V1CE MAGAZINE!!!!! (h...), June 17th, 2005.


I AM EXCEPTOR'S STYLE CONSULTANT

-- Jonothong Williamsmang (SUCCUM...), October 11th, 2005.


You're doing a hell of a job.

-- Gold and Old (premadonn...), October 11th, 2005.


touch cutty and die

-- gear (speed.to.roa...), October 11th, 2005.


funny thread

-- Idle Idle (musclesmusi...), October 11th, 2005.


all you people think too much. ArielPink is the shit regardless of what your expert ears tell you, you should be glad he's even around. If not, turn up your headphones and shut the fuck up.

-- Eddie Briggs (hofmann2...), November 22nd, 2005.


w3rddd

-- Drew Daniel (mces...), November 22nd, 2005.


SHOULD 3X#CPT0rrr HIRE A "STEALTH" MARKETOR?

-- detoxyDancer (evi...), November 30th, 2005.


better usage of the money: beer.

-- Special Agent Dale Koopa (dr.carl.saga...), November 30th, 2005.


i am ass-sceptre's stealth

-- cutty (holle...), November 30th, 2005.


-- cutty (holle...), November 30th, 2005.


-- Russell (whitetapa...), November 30th, 2005.


now weer talking

-- detoxyDancer (evi...), November 30th, 2005.


Oh my goodness did I just pass the BAR exam?!?!!?

-- Spag-Et-EE-oooooo (whiskerchicken...), November 30th, 2005.


STYLUST

-- detoxyDancer (evi...), November 30th, 2005.


harley davidson shirt... check
platform shoes... check
faux-fur jacket... check
jesus... check!

-- cutty (holle...), November 30th, 2005.


HOW DO 30ISH BALDING ROCKSTAR GET HARE CUT???

-- detoxyDancer (evi...), November 30th, 2005.


-- Special Agent Dale Koopa (dr.carl.saga...), November 30th, 2005.


-- cutty (holle...), November 30th, 2005.


Taht's hott!

-- Munich Marriot (highfive...), November 30th, 2005.


Ahhhh now you done got the weasels all hot and bothered...

-- Park Avenue's Destination (skidrow...), November 30th, 2005.


sunbomber and house arrest come out on same day
also the strokes i think

-- noizem duke (dan...), December 1st, 2005.


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