Wednesday, 27 July 2005
Sat on a Wall
Topic: Out of Flyover Land
The Radio EqualizerIn my post Through the Looking Glass I mulled over the hype and reality of Air America the Flagship of Liberal Talk Radio and wondered how long it would stay afloat and how it had stayed afloat up to this time. It would appear there are reasons for Air America's solvency despite its low listener numbers.
From The Radio Equalizer via
Air America's Dirty Dough
Media Cover-Up, Bronx Community Programs Nearly Shut
What happens when the mainstream media, after years of seething over conservative talk radio's success, discover its alternative got diverted public funds, earmarked instead for inner-city youth and seniors?
The answer, with one key exception: they pretend it didn't happen.
Yes, only because of a New York Daily News tidbit do we know that Bronx-based Gloria Wise Boys and Girls Club nearly shut down major programs recently, because almost $500,000 in governmental grant money was instead diverted to Air America's liberal radio network.
You need to read the rest and then ask yourself some questions. Like why haven't you read about this in the Mainstream Media?
Tuesday, 26 July 2005
Turned Upside Down
Topic: Islamic Jihad
According to Legend the Air Played at Yorktown when the troops of Cornwallis laid down their arms. Ironically
Cornwallis opposed nearly all of the British policies that led to the American Revolution.
Indeed the World was Turned Upside Down that Day. One of the Preeminent Military Powers of Europe defeated with the aid of the French by a ragtag collection of Colonials.
In the next few years that New Nation was to engage in its first military land action against of all things a Muslim Terrorist NGO known in those days as the Barbary Pirates. Europe of the Day was content to pay tribute, the answer to that demand by the United States was,
"Millions for Defense, not One Red Cent for Tribute!"
Shortly thereafter as History turns, our former enemy the British and we were at War, During that conflict out Capital was burned and sacked.
History runs in cycle and in 200 years The World has Turned Upside Down once more. Our Former enemy is now our closest ally, in a struggle once more against a Muslim Terrorist NGO this time known as Al-Qaeda.
One personal political front the World has also been
Turned Upside Down. Former Liberals are now called Neo=Cons, what was the Reactionary Conservative Party has become one which supports the advancement of Democracy and Egalitarian Liberty abroad. The Former Radical Liberal Left now supports or trys to support Fascist Dictators in a futile attempt to achieve stability in a chaotic world.
Myself I have found myself in what in the past would be strange company.
My Political Heros today include, Ronald Reagon, Daniel Patrick Moynahan, William F Buckley, George Herbert Walker Bush, George Walker Bush and by the Great Harry has the World Turned Upside Down?
I will admit Mr Hitchens would be horrified to be grouped together with some of the above figures and I will admit if you were to go back in the Past and tell my younger self that one day I would avidly read with approval the works of one of the most potent spokesmen for the Left and a Trotskyite, I would have told you that would be insane,
But today we live in an INSANE world and all other differences aside there is one defining concept that Christorpher Hitchens and I agree on TOTALLY and that is the immanent danger of the Jihadists.
So when, reading some of his works, I stumbled upon the following, what he wrote struck a chord of truth to me and I joined him and other strange bedfellows and signed this Petition and I encourage others of like mind to do the same.Communities United Against Terror
Now I did not need much persuasion, none actually, but had I need it I think these words would have downt ehe trick."Why I Signed Christopher Hitchens"
Association with this statement and with many of its fellow-signatories involves two commitments. The first is the elementary duty of solidarity with true and authentic resistance movements within the Muslim world, such as the Kurdish guerrillas in Iraq and the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan, who were fighting against Ba'athism and Talibanism (and the latent alliance between the two) long before any American or British government had woken up to the threat. It should go without saying that, though the suffering of their peoples was intense, neither Jalal Talabani nor Ahmed Shah Masoud ever considered letting off explosive devices at random in foreign capitals. I have my political and ideological differences with both groups, but these differences are between me and them, and are not mediated through acts of nihilistic murder.
My second commitment is equally elementary. The foreign policy of a democracy should be determined only at election times or by votes in Congress or Parliament. It is one hundred per cent unacceptable even to imply, let alone to assert, that a suicide-murderer or his apologists can by these means acquire the right to any say in how matters are decided.
Both of these observations, and indeed this very statement, would be redundant if it were not for the widespread cultural presence of a pseudo-Left, and an isolationist Right, both of whom have degenerated to the point where they regard jihadism as some form of "liberation theology". The old slogans are often the best, and "Death to Fascism" is life-affirming in these conditions
Monday, 25 July 2005
For those who think harrasing Vets and their families is something new.
Topic: Iraq War
From qando.netIraq Casualty's family booed at Texas vigil
Posted by McQ
I keep saying it and everyone keeps telling me I'm wrong.
Maybe I am, but there continue to be events which demonstrate I'm not. Events such as the parade in Washington where a young Iraq vet was called a 'baby-killer" and now this in Texas, which again says "the anti-war crowd is not pro-troops" no matter how many times they claim to be. It keeps creeping out into the light ... the true feelings of some of the anti-war crowd, and it seems damn familiar to me:
A candlelight vigil took place Wednesday night to remember U.S. war dead in Iraq during the week of the 1,000th casualty. One North Texas family, whose relative -- Chad Drake -- was killed outside Baghdad Monday, was among the mourners at Dallas City Hall Plaza.
The vigil, though, turned abrasive toward the family members, according to a family friend. The friend sent an e-mail message to NBC 5 News that described the treatment some vigil attendees directed at the family.
Drake's mother was "harassed and yelled at, booed and hissed, told her son died for nothing," the message read.
Drake's mother reportedly left the event in tears.
To those who did this to this poor family you're insensitive pigs who don't deserve to live in the country for which young Chad Drake died. They aren't worthy of the blood the young man shed so they could act like the asses they certainly are.
Its because of better men, like Chad, that they can revel in their smug arrogance and believe their way is so superior that they mock the sacrifice of a fine young American and his family.
There just aren't words vile enough to describe how much contempt I feel for those that did this. I hope they all rot in hell. Veteran gets rude welcome on Bainbridge
Think about the Seattle area -- Bainbridge Island to be exact -- and you think scenic views and liberal-minded tolerance.
Read the latest update: An apology and -- it is hoped -- healing on Bainbridge.
At least the killer views are still there.
The bucolic island's deep reputation for civility got a gut check this week during the annual Grand Old Fourth of July celebration.
That's when Jason Gilson,(who was disabled in battle near Nasiriyah) a 23-year-old military veteran who served in Iraq, marched in the local event. He wore his medals with pride and carried a sign that said "Veterans for Bush."
Walking the parade route with his mom, younger siblings and politically conservative friends, Jason heard words from the crowd that felt like a thousand daggers to the heart.
To understand why the reaction of strangers hurt so much, you must read what the young man had written in a letter from Iraq before he was disabled in an ambush:
"I really miss being in the states. Some of the American public have no idea how much freedom costs and who the people are that pay that awful price. I think sometimes people just see us as nameless and faceless and not really as humans. ... A good portion of us are actually scared that when we come home, for those of us who make it back, that there will be protesters waiting for us and that is scary."
On the Fourth, Jason faced his worst fear
It was such a public humiliation -- home front insult after battlefield injury
Jason's mother, Tamar, says a female parade announcer locked eyes on her son who was walking behind a pro-Republican group called Women in Red, White and Blue. The group supports President Bush and the troops in the fight against terrorism.
According to Tamar, the female announcer sarcastically asked Jason: "And what exactly are you a veteran of?"
The perceived mocking, the mother adds, set off some people in the crowd, loosing a flood of negative comments, "like a wave... a mob-style degrading."
To every Middlesex village and farm
Topic: Iraq War
Spread the word let this story hit the top of any internet search!Leftist Vandals Attack Family Of Slain Soldier
This is via Captain's Quarters. This kind of lowlife likes to brag I hope they spout off in the right ears.
The family of a soldier killed in Iraq and just buried less than 24 hours earlier awoke the next morning to a fire in their driveway, which totaled the car of the soldier's sister-in-law. The arsonist(s) set the fire with 20 American flags that the family displayed yard, given to them by mourners at the soldier's funeral:
American flags, lining the lawn of the mother- and father-in-law of fallen U.S. Army Pfc. Timothy Hines Jr., were heaped in a pile early Saturday and burned under a car parked in front of the home - less than 24 hours after Hines was buried in Cincinnati's Spring Grove Cemetery. ...
The flames totaled Sara Wessel's car.
Sara is Hines' sister-in-law and Jim Wessel's oldest daughter. She had been staying at the house on Sando Drive since the family returned last week from Washington, D.C., where they were visiting Hines at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.
Hines, 21, was buried Friday after more than 400 people mourned his passing and celebrated his life at the Vineyard Community Church in Springdale. He was buried with full military honors, leaving behind a pregnant widow who expects to give birth in about two weeks and a 2-year-old daughter.
Wessel's father thinks the fire was "a random act of violence," but neighbors don't think so. One pointed out that the street has more than 20 cars parked near where the fire was set; why pick on the one with all the American flags in the yard? And why use the flags as torches to set the fire in the first place?
It doesn't take Scotland Yard or Hercule Poirot to figure out that the arsonists had a problem with the American flags. Likely, the arsonist(s) knew nothing about the funeral, but got offended by the sight of so many American flags at one house. They probably presumed that the flags constituted a statement about support for the Iraq War, and America in general, and decided that the appropriate response was to burn the family to death, and failing that, at least get their car. (Maybe it was even an SUV -- making it doubly satisfying for the arsonists.) Fortunately the car alarm went off before the fuel tank exploded and involved the entire house, or else the Wessels could have lost much more than a car and the flags that honored their son-in-law and his sacrifice to this country.
This doesn't constitute protest or political speech; it reflects madness. America-haters have come unhinged. When displaying our country's flag makes a dead soldier's family a target for political violence -- and there seems to be little doubt of the nature of this attack -- something terrible has gone wrong with the Left.
Posted by Captain Ed at July 25, 2005 06:29 AM
The additional info from the news article is that the 20 flags have now been replaced by the Wessel's neighbors with 200 flags. Sounds like my kind of neighborhood.
Posted by: Subsunk [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 25, 2005 07:34 AM
Iraq the 21st Century Vietnam?
Topic: Iraq War
Of course the surface parallels of Vietnam to Iraq have gotten considerable play in the Mainstream Media, and those pundits on the Left who are the loudest.
But reality can be Like an onion, with multiple layers.
Peel down one layer. It has been said that by going into Iraq, we have forgotten the lessons of the Past, of Vietnam. But what was one of the most important lessons of Vietnam. The lesson that lead to the US withdrawing? It is this, a War where the enemy has sanctuary, is fought at a severe disadvantage.
Iraq, though some might Like to ignore it for a generation was one of the Major supporters and sanctuaries of International Terrorism. After the Fall of the World Trade Towers, the US though we had ignored it, realized, or many of us did that we were at War with International Forces of Terrorism.
We took steps to reduce their major areas of support and sanitary, Afghanistan and Iraq. From that viewpoint we DID use the lessons of the Past in Vietnam, to define and direct the War against our latest enemy.
But Like an onion there are deeper layers. What WAS Vietnam to the United States? It was the defining concept of an entire generation.
Despite the fact that the War was initiated by a Democratic President and enlarged to its largest extent by yet another Democratic President, the Left has rewritten History to make it a Republican Presidents War.
Like their Fathers before them an entire generation of Democratic Politicians emerged from the War and used its issues to wrest political control from what they viewed as the Reactionary Past.
History advances in cycles. The World War Two generation emerged and took the reins of political power for an entire generation and then subsided and were overwhelmed by the newer generation.
That paradigm defined the last 30 years of American Politics and Like their fathers before them the Vietnam era politicians waved the bloody shirt of their War, just as their fathers had waved the bloody shirt of World War Two.
All these years, an entire generation, the Vietnam Paradigm has been the road to Political Power.
But there is a new generation and now a New Paradigm.
Yes Iraq is the 21st Century Vietnam, but not in the sense that the Newest Old Guard realizes. It is a new Paradigm shift in America's Psyche.
Like their Fathers before them they have not seen the
Winds of Change, they continue to wave the Bloody Shirt of Vietnam, not realizing that is now THEY who are the Old Guard hanging on to the Tiller of the Reactionary Past.
And Like those they replaced they will be replaced.
History does repeat itself.
Sunday, 24 July 2005
Through the Looking Glass
Topic: Out of Flyover Land
`I ca'n't believe that!' said Alice
`Ca'n't you?' the Queen said in a pitying tone. `Try again: draw a long breath, and shut your eyes.
Alice laughed. `There's no use trying,' she said`one ca'n't believe impossible things.'
`I daresay you haven't had much practice,' said the Queen. `When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast"
I suppose for some people it is much easier, much safer to believe impossible things. One recent example has been the media blitz concerning Air America and on the surface, man did it sure look good.Message Received
A Year After the Launch of the Air America Radio Network, Progressive Talk is Making Progress
by Mark Jurkowitz
Providence talk station WHJJ-AM (920), also owned by Clear Channel, went to a more liberal lineup with several Air America shows in October. ''We found that Air America is a real opportunity for us," said program director Bill George. ''I think the time is right. I think the talk world is much larger than the narrow right-wing views we hear from Rush and Hannity."
But then reality, which may be ignored but never can be stopped rears it's ugly head as Buster Block
over at Inmuscatine points out.
"Yep. The great success story. You bet there's a market for Liberal talk radio. Let's see - dead last, or next to dead last in every market in which it airs. The only question left to ask about (Dead)Air America is - when are they going to pull the plug?"
What is the truth instead of the impossible things we are supposed to be practicing believing?
"In one of talk radio's biggest-ever screw-ups, a once well-performing conservative talk station has been destroyed by switching to "progressive" Air America programming.
Most astounding: it took only a year to kill Providence's WHJJ-AM.
Since it's one of the few to dump a viable conservative lineup for Franken & Co., it provides an important case study for liberal talk's failure.
We're talking about Rhode Island here, not Wyoming (although there is a town by that name in the Ocean State).
It's the land of Congressmen named Kennedy, corrupt Democrat power brokers and squishy Republicans like Sen. Lincoln Chafee. Shouldn't it be a great place for liberal talk?
Not according to Arbitron, which released spring ratings results for the city-state, late Thursday.
WHJJ-AM has seen its audience sliced in half since the change, going from a respectable 3.5 share last summer, to a miniscule 1.8. Most amazing: a distant Boston signal from WBZ-AM actually beat hometown WHJJ. That has to be a first."Radio Equalizer | It's All About Providence
Never fear. the folks at Common Dreams above (I could NOT have made a better name up for this essay!) are ready to give us a solution for Air America's doldrums!
Yes the figure who wil be able to exlain nuance to the Ignorant Red State Voters is none other than. Can we please have a drum roll?
"Air America is about to get another marquee name. Starting tomorrow, the network will carry the radio show hosted by the trash-TV icon and former Cincinnati mayor, Jerry Springer.
''When you hear him on the radio, it's very intimate," said Jon Sinton, Air America's president of programming. ''We think he's right on the issues. He's heavily enough anti-Bush to be credible for our audience."
Maybe they have decided they need someone who can speak in a language that the unwashed masses can understand?
Yes it is SO much better to believe 6 impossible things before breakfast than to face the truth.
They may SAY "Clear Channel's Hobbs sounded bullish on his company's plans to convert more stations to the liberal talk roster. ''Intellectually I don't think you can argue against the niche. There's a theoretical hole big enough to drive a truck through," he said. ''So far our batting average is pretty high. I see no reason to slow down or stop at all."
But I have always maintained, question your ASSUMPTIONS. One wonders, does their target audience LISTEN to Radio? It is one thing to drag market share away from other venues, but if your target audience is watching TV, reading a book, and does not have a radio on what are you going to accomplish, besides dragging what few viewers NPR have away, that is?
But I guess for their target audience, it is easy to get them to believe the 6 impossible things before breakfast,
Red State Voters are a little harder to control, that was pointed out after the last election by
Jane Smiley in her essay The unteachable ignorance of the red states.
among our many failings she finds, " red state types, above all, do not want to be told what to do?they prefer to be ignorant. As a result, they are virtually unteachable."
We are unteachable it seems, believing 6 impossible things before breakfast, requires dedication and TALENT in self-delusion.
A perfect example of this theme is the rancor and ire heaped upon those who can be termed Neo-cons.
What does that term mean? No I do not mean "Bad, REALLY BAD" which would be the answer from Impossible believers, what does it REALLY mean?
The prefix Neo means new, so that would imply before one was a Neo-con (neoconservative) one would have been something else?
What would that be? Besides Liberal that is?
There is the reason for all the rancor spite and ire, Neo-Cons are deserters from the Leftist Agenda they are in so many words Apostate Progressives.
One would cause a person to walk away from the philosophy and political Ideals of a Life time.
Perhaps it was looking at the world one day and saying to oneself, "I cannot believe this stuff any more."??
One of the Greatest examples is the road taken by Christopher Hitchens, one time shining light of the left and lifetime Trotskyite.
Here is the story of his Epiphany. "Don't Cross Over if You Have Any Intention of Going Back": Politics and Literature in the Mind of Christopher Hitchens
"I can tell you exactly when the breaking point came, actually. I was invited by Michael Moore to be his interviewer at the Telluride Film Festival for his awful, baggy, dishonest, boring movie, Bowling for Columbine. In that film, clips about the Kosovo war from Serbian television are used as objective. Moore implies that the bombing of Kosovo might have inspired the murderers in Columbine. You don't know where to start with someone as mentally lazy as this. This was on the anniversary of September 11 terrorist attacks, and he said, "Well, if it's true that bin Laden did this thing in New York . . ." It was early in the morning; just a second, I thought. "Say that again? If they did this?" He said, "Well, if they did this." And he opposed the toppling of the Taliban in Afghanistan?a reactionary, conservative position couched in radical anti-imperialist language. My Marxist training tells me things don't remain the same. Reactionary-left positions won't hold for long; they will metamorphose into reactionary-right ones. He says he considers the Iraqi resistance?the beheaders and kidnappers and rapists, the people who throw petrol and explosives into the mosques of rival Muslims, among other things?the equivalents of the Minutemen of the American Revolution. This is the statement of a flat-out brown shirt. It has to be described as such. And all the people who thought that was a great movie to rock the vote, they should be fucking ashamed. There is no room for compromising on a thing like this. He's a lying, fascist, thug."
You see? Christopher Hitchens cannot believe the impossible thing Moore claims "the beheaders and kidnappers and rapists, the people who throw petrol and explosives into the mosques of rival Muslims, among other things?the equivalents of the Minutemen of the American Revolution."
He has taken a good look at the world and concluded..
"Everybody knows what the grievances of the jihadists arethey're very easy to identify. They grieve for the loss of the caliphate. They're not anti-imperialists?they're pro-imperialists. There's an empire they lost and want back. They're offended?deeply, grievously offended?by the sight of an undraped woman or the existence of a Shiite Muslim, or a Christian, or a Jew. These things they consider to be offensive. They believe God gives them the right to erase these things. Let's not understate the fact that they do have deep-seated grievances. But to hear this ventriloquized on the left as some sort of perverse populism was too much for me."
I used to think the Dove/Hawk paradigm needed to be changed to Ostriche/Hawk to denote those who keep their heads in the sand, I think now it should be Dodo/Hawk. because Dodos are jus too stupid to believe anything or anyone would want or be able to hurt THEM that they continued to believe that impossible thing even while someone was coming up and hitting their neighbors over the head and even until they came up to them.
Saturday, 23 July 2005
Death to the Crusader Infidels!
Topic: Islamic Jihad
Lots of folks mocked Bush when he made his
so called "either with us or against us" speech.Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make.
Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. (Applause.) From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime.
But what those fools do not understand is
People like this really MEAN it.Man linked to London bombings threatens Sweden
This is not the first time Sweden receives terror threats. The man is perfectly right when he says that the London bombers "are not terrorists, as they are doing what Islam requires”: Jihad against the infidels:Man linked to London bombings threatens Sweden
The 39-year old Swede suspected of involvement in the London bombings has said that Sweden would be “punished” if he was handed over to a foreign power. The man, who is originally from Lebanon, has lived in Sweden since he was 18. In an interview with Dagens Nyheter last October,----
He admitted, however, that he had lived with Abu Hamza, a controversial Muslim preacher at the Finsbury Park mosque in London, who is currently awaiting trial in Britain on terrorism and race-hate charges. The Swedish man says that he lived with one-eyed, hook-handed Hamza “for medical reasons, as a nurse.” While denying involvement in the London bombings,
the man said that the suicide bombers who attacked three underground trains and a bus were “martyrs,” adding that he hoped also to become a martyr one day. “They are not terrorists, as they are doing what Islam requires,”
Sweden, he said, is not threatened by al-Qaeda, although he told Expressen that this could change if the Swedish government handed him over to the British or American authorities. “If Sweden hands me over to another country then it will only have itself to blame. Sweden will then be punished with the greatest punishment.”
Now let's wait for the same talking heads who made so much fun of President Bush explain to us how uncultured and intolerant this fellow is.
Better not hold your breath.
Friday, 22 July 2005
Because of IRAQ
Topic: Islamic Jihad
At least 45 killed in Egypt resort bombing spree
And of course this is
ALL because of Iraq.
If Egypt had not
invaded another Sovereign
Nation and Over threw---
Wait a minute EGYPT has not invaded anyone, Has it?
But aren't these atrocities supposed to be the Arab Streets Outrage at the overthrow of Saddam Husein?
All this is really confusing particularly since almost all the bombing attacks by the FOREIGN rephrased NON IRAQI Jihadists have been killing IRAQIS.
Yes the message of the Jihadists seems to be
"We will fight the Crusader-Infidels to the LAST DROP of IRAQI BLOOD!"
So if Egypt is not the one who invaded Iraq then why?
Saturday, 23 July , 2005, 06:43
Cairo: At least 45 people were killed and around 150 more wounded in a string of bomb attacks overnight in the Egyptian Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh, medical sources told AFP.
"There were several attacks at around 1:00 am (2200 GMT Friday) in the centre of Sharm el-Sheikh," a police official told AFP.
"For the moment, we don't know whether they were car bombs or bombs planted under parked cars," he said. "We are not ruling out the possibility of suicide bombings."
The blasts rocked the popular Sinai resort at the peak of the summer tourist season and several foreigners were believed to be among the victims.
According to police sources and witnesses, one of the deadliest bombs went off in a car park between the Ghazala and Movenpick hotels in Sharm el-Sheikh's Naama Bay area.
"The side of the Ghazala hotel facing the sea was badly damaged by one of the blasts and part of it even collapsed," Sharm el-Sheikh resident Hossam Osman told AFP on the phone.
"There are lots of bodies covered with blood-stained white sheets around the hotel. Lots of people rushed to the scene to see what was happening but up to 600 policemen are cordoning off the area," added Osman, who owns a photo laboratory.
The attacks came on the 53rd anniversary of the 1952 revolution and scores of Egyptians were also on an extended holiday weekend in Sharm el-Sheikh and other resorts.
According to police sources, there were up to seven almost simultaneous blasts, mainly in Sharm el-Sheikh's old market area.
One went off near the Marriott hotel and another near the Marina Sharm, witnesses said.
According to an AFP reporter in the Sinai, police forces immediately tightened security along the peninsula's coastline road, with sniffer dogs checking vehicles at every checkpoint.
The bombings were the bloodiest such incident since 34 people, including several Israeli tourists were killed in triple bombings against Taba and two other Sinai resorts last October.
Sharm el-Sheikh is Egypt's largest resort and sits at the southern tip of the Sinai peninsula.
The October 7 bombings had targeted the Hilton hotel -- which lies next to the border with Israel at the north of Gulf of Aqaba -- as well as two other resort camps in Nuweiba, further down the coastline.
The October bombings were the first major attack in Egypt since 58 tourists were killed in an attack on the southern town of Luxor in 1997 and sparked a massive crackdown by government troops in the Sinai.
The trial of three men suspected of involvement in the October bombings opened on July 2 at the high state security court in Ismailiya, northeast of Cairo, and was due to resume on Sunday.
One of the men is still at large and being tried in absentia.
Because its less trouble and EASIER to bomb Egypt than to go all the way to the US, Italy, Denmark, the rest of the Coalition of the Willing
(all 30 plus Nations) or UK again?
or Not To Be
Topic: Islamic Jihad
This just in on the Tube shooting in London.British police kill one suspect at a subway station; another is arrested
Metropolitan Police Commissioner Ian Blair said the shooting was "directly linked" to the investigation.
"The man who was shot was under police observation because he had emerged from a house that was itself under observation because it was linked to the investigation of yesterday's incidents," police said in a statement. "He was then followed by surveillance officers to the station. His clothing and his behavior at the station added to their suspicions."
Of course there is concern in the Muslim Community, and I WILL stipulate that for the majority they are probably hard working honest good British citizens, some them do however fail to understand the realities of this situation.Muslim community worried about reprisals as tensions mount in London
This pops out to my mind.
"They didn't need to shoot him five times. They could have shot him once or twice, maybe in the leg, so that he couldn't get away," Asim said.
"There's another worry now, a big one that I think Muslims fear," he said, "that after 7/7, unnecessary force would be used to curb radicalism which would, though, breed more radicals When someone may have a bomb you want them DOWN, the UK is NOT like other parts of the world the man's concerns would be valid there and there would ALREADY be blood in the streets in retribution
"We are getting phone calls from quite a lot of Muslims who are distressed about what may be a shoot-to-kill policy," said Inayat Bunglawala, Muslim Council of Britain spokesman.
One caller, he said, asked: "What if I was carrying a rucksack"Well? Then DON'T carry a rucksack, I mean PLEASE anyone carrying into the London Tube something that looks like what the terrorists used to bomb it is crazy.
"Guner Bahadir, sitting in a prayer room for women, said she felt solidarity with Muslims involved in conflicts around the world and with Britain's involvement in the Iraq war, she wasn't surprised by the attacks.
"This is the war and now it is here," said the 40-year-old Bahadir, who immigrated from Turkey five years ago.
"They (the West) say they're helping us but they're not. They're killing us," she said.
"We don't need their help." That's priceless, Solidarity with Terrorists, no Dear WE are not killing you THEY are killing you. Emigrated from Turkey 5 years ago, she must have missed the Terrorist Bombings there? No Solidarity for her new home I take it?
I got on a dust up recently on an international Bulletin Board on the subject of Capital Punishment.
The usual suspects showed up, what if they are innocent, No one has the right to take a life not even the State.
You know? In the case of a Terrorist carrying a explosives, caught in the act? I do not think we have to worry much about presumption of innocence do we? Except for intelligence gathering I see nothing at all immoral about a quick shot to the head.
However, despite my support for Capital Punishment in cases BEYOND ANY DOUBT, with a deeply religious fanatic, I am willing to make an exception.
I would look them in the eye and say. "No quick trip to Paradise for you m'boy, look around and get used to what you see here, because you will be looking at it for a LONG time, and when your body starts giving out? We will put you on life support, if possible we will do all we can to make certain you NEVER die and go to paradise.
Isn't the paradox sweet? What is the Left going to complain about we would be TOO Humane?
Do you feel Lucky?
Topic: Islamic Jihad
More excitement in LondonUK police shoot man at underground station
Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:10 PM GMT
LONDON (Reuters) - London police said on Friday a police officer had shot a man at the Stockwell underground train station but declined to comment on reports he was a suspected suicide bomber.
"I saw them (police) offload five shots into the person on the floor," eyewitness Mark Whitby at the station told BBC television. "I saw them kill a man."
Police would not give any further details.
Police were hunting for bombers on Friday after an apparently failed bid on Thursday to bomb London's transport network.
On July 7, 56 people were killed in bombings on the underground and bus network, including four bombers.
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