Freedom is not really freedom unless the future is thereby made unknown. The divine plan of
salvation, which makes freedom a reality, foresees generally and not specifically, unless something
specific contributes to the general glory. The purpose of these notes is to prompt readers of them
to think freely concerning where human society is now poised within the plan of salvation.
"Notes" means that this is only a loosely-organized gathering of prophecies with some comments
and suggested interpretations of them. "Scriptural" means "according to a canon of scriptures".
The canon chosen for these notes is that used by the Community of Christ, whose world
headquarters is in Independence, Missouri, in the United States of America. Her scriptural canon
currently consists of Holy Scriptures (an "Inspired Version" of the Bible), The Book of Mormon,
and Doctrine and Covenants. These scriptures mention other holy records which must eventually
come to light. "Prophecies" are divine pronouncements concerning future realities. References to
The Book of Mormon employ the RLDS (Community of Christ) system of chapter and verse numbering,
which is different than the LDS system.
Some scriptural statements thought by some to be prophecies might not be, as the following article shows.
from Acres, U.S.A., 1991, March
The Poor With Us
by John McDonnell
There is some religious lore afloat that the poor will always be with us. Such armchair philosophy
does not seem wise to me. Yet the words are said to come from the Lord himself.
My New Testament studies have progressed to the point where I know how to link into the Greek
texts upon which English translations are based. I learned how to use Interlinear Greek-English
New Testament Numerically Coded to Strong's Exhaustive Concordance (1981). Then I learned
to use Analytical Greek New Testament (1981) by Barbara and Timothy Friberg. This book gives
the complete Greek text published by the United Bible Societies with each Greek word having a
computerized tag beneath it. By referring to a chart one can instantly find the parts of speech
down to the last grammatical detail. To make sense out of the details listed, I use the book Learn
to Read the Greek New Testament, by Ward Powers.
There are three New Testament passages in which Jesus tells his disciples that they have the poor
always with them: Matthew 26:11, Mark 14:7, John 12:8. In all three passages the verb for "have"
is ekhete, which the Fribergs have tagged "VIPA--YP," meaning "verb, indicative, present, active,
second person, plural." By consulting Learn to Read the Greek New Testament I learned how ekhete
should be translated: "you (plural) have," or "you (plural) are having." Any translation with the
future tense "will have" is incorrect.
Here is how a few English translations have rendered Matthew 26:11. Errors are in blue font.
— King James Version "For ye have the poor always with you, but me ye have not always."
— Ferrar Fenton (1905 edition) "Besides, you have the poor always with you; but Me you have
— J. B. Phillips (1972 edition) "You have the poor with you always, but you will not always
— The Living Bible (1971 edition) "You will always have the poor among you, but you won't
————always have me."
— New International Version (1983 edition) "The poor you will always have with you, but you
————will not always have me."
Since The Living Bible is a mere paraphrase, I expected errors. I am disappointed to find the
New International Version corrupting the meaning.
Jesus spent considerable time and effort organizing his church to teach his gospel in all the world.
The influence of Christianity has opened many people's hearts to the realization that every person
is of great worth in the sight of God. Wherever Christianity has functioned properly there have
been peaceful yet determined efforts to establish better social arrangements. When such efforts
are also enlightened by the guidance of the Holy Spirit—one of the basic promises of Christianity—
an understanding of social arrangements in which poverty can be eliminated will develop. Such
development is hampered by the religious lore afloat that the poor must always be among us.
Church organizations have internal debates over this very issue. For example, in the Community
of Christ, one influential scholar has declared, "As peacemakers we are called to eradicate the
causes of disorder and to eliminate poverty." Meanwhile, a group of scholars has issued a "world
church vision statement" that finds "eliminate" too strong a word and is only concerned that
"poverty is alleviated," thereby falling back on the religious lore that I have just exposed to be a
brutal lie. I am confident that the Community of Christ will begin to resolve this issue in favor of
parity economics. One of the most beloved scriptural passages in the Community of Christ, which
many members can recite from memory, says: "And the Lord called his people, Zion, because
they were of one heart and of one mind, and dwelt in righteousness; and there were no poor
Although Deuteronomy 15:11 states that "the poor shall never cease out of the land," that statement
comes only after a declaration that if the instructions of God are obeyed, there would be no poor among
the keepers of those instructions. I quote from the Jewish Publication Society's 1985 translation of
Deuteronomy 15:4-5: "There shall be no needy among you—since the LORD your God will bless you in
the land that the LORD your God is giving you as a hereditary portion—if only you heed the LORD your
God and take care to keep all this Instruction that I enjoin upon you this day."
divine pronouncements concerning future realities are possible
Amos 3:7, Inspired Version
Surely the Lord God will do nothing until he revealeth the secret unto his servants the prophets.
John 15:15, King James Version
Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have
called you friends; for all things that I have heard of My Father I have made known unto you.
from Doctrine and Covenants (1835) section LXXXII paragraph 4
... truth is knowledge of things as they are, and as they were, and as they are to come ...
from "On the Nature of Signs" (1873) by Charles S. Peirce
Take any statement which is made concerning a matter of fact. It is caused or determined by the fact. The
fact has been observed & the perception of the fact which was caused by it in its turn causes the statement to
be made. Perhaps however the fact was not directly perceived. The statement may be a prediction. In that
case it cannot be said that that which follows after has caused that which precedes it, the prediction, but if the
event has been predicted it has been through some knowledge of its cause and this same cause which
precedes the event also precedes some cognition of the mind which gave rise to the prediction so that there
is a real causal connection between the sign and the thing signified although it does not consist in one's
being the effect of the other but in both being the effect of the same cause.
from The Sources of Religious Insight (1912) by Josiah Royce, pages 109-110
... whatever your opinions, your expression of them is an appeal to some wider insight that you regard as
real, and that you view as a live insight which comprehends your ideas, and which sees how they are related
to genuine experience. This, I affirm, is the universal form which all opinion takes. A true opinion is true,
because in fact it expresses what the wider insight confirms. A false opinion is false, because it is refuted by
the light of this same wider view. Apart from such a confirmation or refutation in the light of such a larger view,
the very concepts of truth and error, as applied to opinions which are not wholly confirmed or set aside by the
instantaneous evidence of the moment when the opinions are formed or uttered, have no meaning. True is
the judgment that is confirmed by the larger view to which it appeals. False is the assertion that is not thus
confirmed. Upon such a conception the very ideas of truth and error depend. Without such a conception truth
and error have no sense. If such a conception is not itself a true view of our situation, that is, if there is no
wider insight, our opinions have neither truth nor error, and are all of them alike merely meaningless. When
you are ignorant, you are ignorant of what the wider view makes clear to its own insight. If you blunder or are
deluded, your blunder is due to a defective apprehension which the wider view confirms. And thus, whether
you are ignorant or blundering, wise or foolish, whether the truth or falsity of your present opinion is supposed
to be actual, one actuality is equally and rationally presupposed, as the actuality to which all your opinions
refer, and in the light of which they possess sense. This is the actuality of some wider insight with reference
to which your own opinion gets its truth or its falsity. To this wider insight, to this always presupposed vision
of experience as it is, of the facts as they are, you are always appealing. Your every act of assertion displays
the genuineness of the appeal and exemplifies the absolute rational necessity of asserting that the appeal is
made to an insight that is itself real.
02 Confrontation with Christ
Isaiah 59:19-20, King James Version|
When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him. And
the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the Lord.
Malachi 3:1-5, King James Version|
Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me; and the Lord whom ye seek,
shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in; behold, he shall
come, saith the Lord of hosts. But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he
appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap; and he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver;
and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the Lord an
offering in righteousness. Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the Lord, as in the
days of old, and as in former years. And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness
against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress
the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and
fear not me, saith the Lord of hosts.
Luke 12:35-48, Helen Montgomery's 1924 translation|
Let your loins be girded about and your lamps burning; and be yourselves like men who are looking for their
lord, on his return from a wedding-banquet, so that when he comes and knocks they may at once open the door
for him. Happy are those slaves whom their master shall find watching when he comes. I tell you truly that he
will gird himself, and make them sit down to meat, and come and serve them. And whether it be in the second
watch, or in the third, that he comes, and so finds them, happy are those slaves. However, you know this, that if
the master of the house had known in what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed
his house to be broken into. Do you also be ready, for in an hour that you think not the Son of man is coming."
"Master," said Peter, "are you speaking this parable to us or to all alike?" The Lord answered: "Who then is
that faithful steward, the wise man whom his lord will put in charge of his household to give out their rations in
due time? Blessed is that slave whom his master on his coming shall find so doing. Of a truth I tell you that he
will put him in charge of his possessions. But if that slave should say to himself, 'My master delays his coming,'
and should begin to beat the men and the maids, and to eat and drink and to get drunk, that slave's master will
arrive on a day when he is not expecting him, and at an hour when he knows not, and will surely scourge him,
and appoint him his portion with the unfaithful. The slave who knew his Lord's will, and made not ready, nor did
according to his will, will be beaten with many lashes, but he who did not know, but did things worthy of a
beating, will receive few lashes. To whom much has been given, from him much will be required, and to whom
much is entrusted, of him they will ask the more.
Luke 12:35-48, King James Version
||Luke 12:38-57, Inspired Version|
|35 Let your loins be girded about, and your lights
|38 Let your loins be girded about and have your|
|36 And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for
their lord, when he will return from the wedding;
that when he cometh and knocketh, they may
open unto him immediately.
|39 That ye yourselves may be like unto men who|
wait for their Lord, when he will return from the
wedding; that, when he cometh and knocketh,
they may open unto him immediately.
|37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord
when he cometh shall find watching; verily I say
unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make
them to sit down to meat, and will come forth
and serve them.
|40 Verily I say unto you, Blessed are those|
servants, whom the Lord when he cometh shall
find watching; for he shall gird himself, and make
them sit down to meat, and will come forth and
|38 And if he shall come in the second watch, or
come in the third watch, and find them so,
blessed are those servants.
|41 For, behold, he cometh in the first watch of|
the night, and he shall also come in the second
watch, and again he shall come in the third watch.
|39 And this know, that if the goodman of the
house had known what hour the thief would
come, he would have watched, and not suffered
his house to be broken through.
|42 And verily I say unto you, He hath already|
come, as it is written of him; and again when he
shall come in the second watch, or come in the
third watch, blessed are those servants when he
cometh, that he shall find so doing;
43 For the Lord of those servants shall gird
himself, and make them to sit down to meat,
and will come forth and serve them.
44 And now, verily I say these things unto you,
that ye may know this, that the coming of the
Lord is as a thief in the night.
45 And it is like unto a man who is an
householder, who, if he watcheth not his goods,
the thief cometh in an hour of which he is not
aware, and taketh his goods, and divideth
them among his fellows.
46 And they said among themselves, If the
good man of the house had known what hour
the thief would come, he would have watched,
and not have suffered his house to be broken
through and the loss of his goods.
|40 Be ye therefore ready also; for the Son of
man cometh at an hour when ye think not.
|47 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto|
you, be ye therefore ready also; for the Son of
man cometh at an hour when ye think not.
|41 Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speaketh
thou this parable unto us, or even to all?
|48 Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speaketh|
thou this parable unto us, or unto all?
|42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful
and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler
over his household, to give them their portion of
meat in due season?
|49 And the Lord said, I speak unto those whom|
the Lord shall make rulers over his household,
to give his children their portion of meat in due
50 And they said, Who then is that faithful and
51 And the Lord said unto them, It is that
servant who watcheth, to impart his portion of
meat in due season.
|43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when
he cometh shall find so doing.
|52 Blessed be that servant whom his Lord shall|
find, when he cometh, so doing.
|44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make
him ruler over all that he hath.
|53 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make|
him ruler over all that he hath.
|45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My
lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat
the menservants and maidens, and to eat and
drink, and to be drunken;
|54 But the evil servant is he who is not found|
watching. And if that servant is not found
watching, he will say in his heart, My Lord
delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the
menservants, and the maidens, and to eat, and
drink, and to be drunken.
|46 The lord of that servant will come in a day
when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when
he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and
will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.
|55 The Lord of that servant will come in a day|
he looketh not for, and at an hour when he is
not aware, and will cut him down, and will
appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.
|47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will,
and prepared not himself, neither did according
to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
|56 And that servant who knew his Lord's will,|
and prepared not for his Lord's coming, neither
did according to his will, shall be beaten with
|48 But he that knew not, and did commit things
worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few
stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of
him shall be much required; and to whom men
have committed much, of him they will ask the
|57 But he that knew not his Lord's will, and|
did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be
beaten with few. For unto whomsoever much is
given, of him shall much be required; and to
whom the Lord has committed much, of him
will men ask the more.
The Second Coming is imminent. The Third Coming, mentioned in the Inspired Version, will be at the
end of the little season after the millennial reign of Christ (Revelation 20:3,7-9). Since Christ will not
be on Earth during the little season, the judgment at the end of it will be a Third Coming. "For the
Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son" (John 5:22).
Malachi 3:3 tells the purpose of the Confrontation: to "purge them as gold and silver, that they may
offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness." About the time of the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
according to The Book of Mormon, many of the inhabitants of Mesoamerica heard a voice teaching:
"Ye shall offer up unto me no more the shedding of blood; yea, your sacrifices and your burnt offerings
shall be done away, for I will accept none of your sacrifices and burnt offerings; and ye shall offer for
a sacrifice unto me a broken heart and a contrite spirit" (3 Nephi 4:49).
The Book of Mormon has its own prediction of the Confrontation: "If the Gentiles shall hearken unto the
Lamb of God in that day that he shall manifest himself unto them in word, and also in power, in very
deed, unto the taking away of their stumbling blocks, and harden not their hearts against the Lamb of
God, they shall be numbered among the seed of thy father; yea, they shall be numbered among the
house of Israel; and they shall be a blessed people upon the promised land for ever" (1 Nephi 3:201-203).
The words in very deed mean a personal manifestation, and when those words are linked with unto the
taking away of their stumbling blocks, which has not yet been fulfilled, it is clear to me that this passage
is predicting the same Confrontation predicted in Malachi 3:1-5 and Luke 12:35-48.
The Book of Mormon 3 Nephi 13:54-56 mentions "his coming unto the children of Israel" in a way suggesting
that it would occur not long after The Book of Mormon was published: "And now behold, I say unto you,
that when the Lord shall see fit, in his wisdom, that these sayings shall come unto the Gentiles, according
to his word, then ye may know that the covenant which the Father hath made with the children of Israel,
concerning their restoration to the lands of their inheritance, is already beginning to be fulfilled; and ye
may know that the words of the Lord, which have been spoken by the holy prophets, shall all be fulfilled;
and ye need not say that the Lord delays his coming unto the children of Israel; and ye need not
imagine in your hearts that the words which have been spoken are vain, for behold, the Lord will
remember his covenant which he hath made unto his people of the house of Israel." I interpret this to
mean that unless the Lord manifests himself to them, his covenant with the children of Israel cannot be
fulfilled. The Book of Mormon 1 Nephi 7:21-22 teaches the same thing: "And I would, my brethren, that ye
should know that all the kindreds of the earth can not be blessed unless he shall make bare his arm in
the eyes of the nations. Wherefore, the Lord God will proceed to make bare his arm in the eyes of all
the nations, in bringing about his covenants and his gospel, unto those who are of the house of Israel."
Thus, the purpose of the Confrontation taught in The Book of Mormon is the same as that taught in
Malachi 3:1-5, which is concerned with the covenants of the Lord, and the same as that taught in Luke
12:35-48, which is concerned with the gospel of the Lord.
03 the second coming of Christ
|Matthew 24:27, King James Version
||Matthew 24:27, Inspired Version|
|For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and
shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming
of the Son of man be.
|For as the light of the morning cometh out of the east,|
and shineth even unto the west, and covereth the whole
earth; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
|Luke 17:24, King James Version
||Luke 17:24, Inspired Version|
|For as the lightning that lighteneth out of the one
part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under
heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
|For as the light of the morning, that shineth out of the|
one part under heaven, and lighteneth to the other part
under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
commentary by Adam Rutherford, from Pyramidology, Book IV, 1972, page 1487
The translation of the Greek word astrape by "lightning" in Matthew 24:27, Luke 17:24 in our
English Bibles is misleading and is partly responsible for wrong conclusions regarding the
manner of the Second Advent. It is true that astrape means "lightning" but it also has a wider
meaning. Liddell and Scott's Greek-English Lexicon gives the meaning of astrape in New
Testament Greek as "any bright light". Jesus Himself, as recorded in Luke 11:36 speaks
of "the bright shining (astrape) of a lamp". The same Greek word is used again in Our Lord's
Great Prophecy of Matthew 24, where in verse 27 He speaks of a bright light "coming forth
from the east and shining even unto the west". There is only one bright light that does this,
namely the sun (moonlight is faint and the starlight is small). So the correct translation of
Matthew 24:27 is "For as the sunlight (astrape) cometh forth from the east and shineth even
unto the west, so shall also the presence (parousia) of the Son of man be." Only those who
are awake and watching see the first gleams of light and watch the increasing light and
dawn, whilst later when the sun rises in the sky and moves over to the west, it is observed
by all. So likewise, only those awake to the signs of the times and watching discern the Lord's
presence in the early days of the Second Advent, whilst later, when He manifests Himself,
"every eye shall see Him", for His parousia, i.e. His presence continues throughout the
interpretation by John McDonnell
Although I view what I call the Confrontation as the first stage of the Second Coming of Christ,
I usually reserve the term Second Coming to mean His coming to reign on Earth for a thousand
years, which will take place several years after the Confrontation. In between the Confrontation
and the Second Coming, I anticipate an increasing Presence, like the glory of the rising sun.
Malachi 4:2, King James Version|
But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings ...
Must the Mount of Olives be the first point of return?
The ascension of Jesus into heaven as described in Acts 1:9-12 is also a prophecy of the
manner in which Jesus will return. There is no indication or concern where this will begin. However,
the fact that the ascension happened on the eastern slope of the Mount of Olives (Luke 24:50;
Acts 1:12) naturally invites comparison to Zechariah 14:1-5 with its statement "And his feet shall
stand in that day upon the mount of Olives" (verse 4). And the prophecies of Jesus concerning
the destruction of Jerusalem and the signs of His coming (in Matthew 24) were spoken on the
Mount of Olives (verse 3). All of this seems to offer many an excuse for believing that is where
the Second Coming of Christ will begin. But would what is described in Zechariah 14:1-5 fulfill the
angels' words, "this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like
manner as ye have seen him go into heaven" (Acts 1:11)? I don't think so. I believe that Jesus will
return in the clouds of heaven first to those supposed to be doing His work on Earth. The place
or places this will happen is or are presently unknown (Hebrews 9:28). What is described in
Zechariah 14:1-5 seems to me to be near the end of the second coming process, when Christ
will destroy the wicked gathered against Him.
Zechariah 14:1-5, King James Version|
Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. For
I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses
rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue
of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against
those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon
the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall
cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very
great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the
south. And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall
reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of
Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
Doctrine and Covenants 45:6-10|
6 And it shall come to pass that he that feareth me shall be looking forth for the great day
of the Lord to come, even for the signs of the coming of the Son of man; and they shall see
signs and wonders, for they shall be shown forth in the heavens above, and in the earth
beneath; and they shall behold blood and fire, and vapors of smoke; and before the day of
Lord shall come, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon be turned into blood, and stars
fall from heaven; and the remnant shall be gathered unto this place [the Mount of Olives];
and then they shall look for me, and and behold I will come; and they shall see me in the
clouds of heaven, clothed with power and great glory, with all the holy angels; and he that
watches not for me shall be cut off.
7 But before the arm of the Lord shall fall, an angel shall sound his trump, and the saints
that have slept, shall come forth to meet me in the cloud; wherefore if ye have slept in
peace, blessed are you, for as you now behold me and know that I am, even so shall ye
come unto me and your souls shall live, and your redemption shall be perfected, and the
saints shall come forth from the four quarters of the earth.
8 Then shall the arm of the Lord fall upon the nations, and then shall the Lord set his foot
upon this mount [the Mount of Olives], and it shall cleave in twain, and the earth shall
tremble and reel to and fro; and the heavens also shall shake, and the Lord shall utter his
voice and all the ends of the earth shall hear it, and the nations of the earth shall mourn,
and they that have laughed shall see their folly, and calamity shall cover the mocker, and
the scorner shall be consumed, and they that have watched for iniquity, shall be hewn
down and cast into the fire.
9 And then shall the Jews look upon me and say, What are these wounds in thy hands,
and in thy feet? Then shall they know that I am the Lord; for I will say unto them, These
wounds are the wounds with which I was wounded in the house of my friends. I am he who
was lifted up. I am Jesus that was crucified. I am the Son of God. And then shall they weep
because of their iniquities; they shall they lament because they persecuted their King.
Zechariah 13:6, King James Version
And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thy hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I
was wounded in the house of my friends.
Zechariah 12:10, King James Version
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of
supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one
mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
10 And then shall the heathen nations be redeemed, and they that knew no law shall have
part in the first resurrection; and it shall be tolerable for them; and Satan shall be bound
that he shall have no place in the hearts of the children of men. And at that day when I
shall come in my glory, shall the parable be fulfilled which I spake concerning the ten
virgins; for they that are wise and have received the truth, and have taken the Holy Spirit
for their guide, and have not been deceived, verily I say unto you, They shall not be hewn
down and cast into the fire, but shall abide the day, and the earth shall be given unto them
for an inheritance; and they shall multiply and wax strong, and their children shall grow up
without sin unto salvation, for the Lord shall be in their midst, and his glory shall be upon
them, and he will be their King and their lawgiver.
04 how the second coming of Christ will begin
1924 translation of Acts 1:7-14 by Helen Barrett Montgomery
He answered: "It is not for you to know times and occasions which the Father has fixed in his own
authority; yet you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you, and you are to be my
witnesses both in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and to the very ends of the earth."
When he had said this, and while they were looking at him, he was lifted up, and a cloud received
him out of their sight. While they were gazing into the sky as he was going up, suddenly there were
two men in white garments standing by them, and they said: "Men of Galilee, why do you stand
gazing into the sky? This same Jesus who has been taken up from you into the sky will come back
in just the same way as you have seen him going into the sky." Then they returned to Jerusalem from
the mountain called Olivet, which is near Jerusalem, about a Sabbath Day's journey distant. On
entering the city they went to the upper room where they were accustomed to meet. They were Peter
and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James, son of
Alpheus, and Simon the Zealot, and Judas the son of James. These all with one mind gave their
constant attention to prayer, together with some women, and with Mary the mother of Jesus, and his
interpretation by John McDonnell
This passage is important in helping us avoid deceptions regarding the second coming of Christ,
including the early phase of it that I call the Confrontation. By reversing the order of events in this
passage, according to the statement by the two angels, we have a perfect prophecy of how the
second coming will begin. The elements it will involve are the church, its human leaders, ministry of
angels, a cloud, and "this same Jesus". All of this is in harmony with what other scriptures teach:
1. He will not appear in the desert (Matthew 24:26).
2. He will not appear in secret chambers (Matthew 24:26).
3. He will not come in the form of a woman (Doctrine and Covenants 49:4).
4. He will not come as a man traveling on the earth (Doctrine and Covenants 49:4).
posted on Community of Christ WebBoard and Center Place
Discussion Board in December of 2004
second coming of Christ
Scriptural prophecies indicate that the second coming of Christ is not a single event, but a
gradually increasing Presence (Malachi 4:2; Matthew 24:27 IV).
Luke 12:38-57 IV anticipates a confrontation with Christ for those supposed to be doing his
work on Earth.
Then, The Book of Mormon and other Restoration scriptures anticipate a period in which the
Lord is in the midst of His people as they gather to establish Zion while the rest of the nations
are at war with one another.
Finally, comes the phase of the second coming in which the dead in Christ are resurrected,
the wicked on Earth are destroyed, and Christ begins to reign with His saints over all the
Earth for a thousand years.
If this interpretation is anywhere close to being true, then the phase of the second coming
that ought to concern us right now is that early phase of it anticipated in Luke 12:38-57 IV.
I believe that Adolf Lundeen's interpretation of this passage, in his "Three Visitations of Christ
and His Coming in Glory", was incorrect. I believe that Christ's coming in the second watch is
the second coming, while Christ's coming in the third watch is the third coming at the end of
the little season after Christ's millennial reign (Revelation 20:3,7-9). Since Christ will be
present on Earth during the Millennium but not during the little season that follows, the
judgment at the end of the little season would be His third coming. "For the Father judgeth
no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son" (John 5:22).
Scriptural statements about the second coming of Christ are fragmentary and scattered. I
believe the best point to gather the various statements around is the proclamation of two
angels at the Ascension of Jesus Christ into Heaven: "... this same Jesus, which is taken up
from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven"
(Acts 1:11). There are three accounts of the ascension, Mark 16:19, Luke 24:51, and
Acts 1:9. By reading these in context, we are able to piece together what happened just
prior to, during, and just after the Ascension. This is important since "in like manner" would
take related happenings into account. Therefore, our study of the Ascension must be
expanded to Mark 16:14-20, Luke 24:33-53, and Acts 1:1-14, at least. There is no
discrepancy between the "as far as to Bethany" of Luke 24:50 and "returned they unto
Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet" of Acts 1:12, since Bethany was on the eastern
slope of the Mount of Olives.
There was a sequence of events leading up to the Ascension. There was a meeting in
Jerusalem of church members including the eleven apostles at which Jesus appeared,
rebuked them, ate a meal with them, and taught them. Then a portion of them, apparently the
eleven apostles, were led by Jesus toward Bethany, apparently teaching them along the way.
Then while the Ascension was happening, we have the statement by two angels that "in like
manner" Jesus would return. Then those witnessing the Ascension returned to the gathering
of church members in Jerusalem. Since certain phrases in translations are vague on details,
it is good to read the accounts in several different translations, perhaps even looking at some
of the Greek words involved.
Now obviously "in like manner" could not be a repeat of the sequence, but must be reversed
in order to have Jesus returning. When we reverse the sequence, I get this result. Among
Christian believers will be those expecting Christ's return. "And at midnight there was a cry
made [I would guess by angels], Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him"
(Matthew 25:6). Those able to quickly respond to this summons (Hebrews 9:28) may witness
Jesus descending from a cloud. I would imagine that He will teach them. They would then
carry their witness and tidings to larger groups of Christians, who would meet to discuss
what is being claimed. Then confrontations would take place between Christ and those
supposed to be doing his work on Earth (Malachi 3:1-5; Luke 12:38-57 IV). The net result
would be that the church would be cleansed and inspired to accomplish its final tasks before
the thousand year reign of Christ begins.
I would also group Isaiah 52:10 with these events. "The Lord hath made bare his holy arm in
the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of God." I
interpret "the eyes of the nations" as referring to those guided by the Holy Spirit, and who can
thereby see the kingdom of God (see John 3:3).
Matthew 25:6, King James Version
And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
Doctrine and Covenants 85:25c-d
And all things shall be in commotion; and surely men's hearts shall fail them; for fear shall come upon all
people; and angels shall fly through the midst of heaven, crying with a loud voice, sounding the trump of
God, saying, Prepare ye, prepare ye, O inhabitants of the earth, for the judgment of our God is come;
behold, and lo, the Bridegroom cometh, go ye out to meet him.
Doctrine and Covenants 108:3c-4a
Yea, let the cry go forth among all people: Awake and arise and go forth to meet the Bridegroom. Behold,
and lo, the Bridegroom cometh, go ye out to meet him. Prepare yourselves for the great day of the Lord.
Watch, therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour.
Doctrine and Covenants 108:5d
Prepare ye for the coming of the Bridegroom; go ye, go ye out to meet him, for, behold, he shall stand
upon the Mount of Olivet, and upon the mighty ocean, even the great deep, and upon the islands of the
sea, and upon the land of Zion.
05 "the marriage supper of the Lamb"
Isaiah 25:6-10, King James Version|
And in this mountain shall the Lord of hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a
feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined.
And He will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and
the vail that is spread over all nations. He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord
God will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of His people shall He take
away from off all the earth: for the Lord hath spoken it. And it shall be said in that day,
"Lo, this is our God; we have waited for Him, and He will save us: this is the Lord; we
have waited for Him, we will be glad and rejoice in His salvation." For in this mountain
shall the hand of the Lord rest.
|Matthew 26:29, King James Version
||Matthew 26:26, Inspired Version|
|But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth
of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I
drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.
|But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this|
fruit of the vine, until that day when I shall come and
drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.
|Mark 14:25, King James Version
||Mark 14:25-26, Inspired Version|
|Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of
the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink
it new in the kingdom of God.
|Verily I say unto you, Of this ye shall bear record; for|
I will no more drink of the fruit of the vine with you,
until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.
And now they were grieved, and wept over him.
|Luke 22:18, King James Version
||Luke 22:18, Inspired Version|
|For I say unto you, I will not drink of the
fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God
|For I say unto you, that I will not drink of the fruit of|
the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
Revelation 19:6-9, King James Version|
And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and
as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, "Alleluia: for the Lord God Omnipotent reigneth
Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come,
and His wife hath made herself ready." And to her was granted that she should be arrayed
in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. And he saith
unto me, "Write, 'Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb.' "
Doctrine and Covenants 26:2-3|
Behold, this is wisdom in me; wherefore marvel not, for the hour cometh that I will drink of the
fruit of the vine with you on the earth, and with Moroni, whom I have sent unto you to reveal the
Book of Mormon, containing the fullness of my everlasting gospel; to whom I have committed
the keys of the record of the stick of Ephraim; and also with Elias, to whom I have committed
the keys of bringing to pass the restoration of all things, or the restorer of all things spoken by
the mouth of all the holy prophets since the world began, concerning the last days; also John
the son of Zacharias, which Zacharias he (Elias) visited and gave promise that he should have
a son, and his name should be John, and he should be filled with the spirit of Elias; which John
I have sent unto you, my servants, Joseph Smith, Jr., and Oliver Cowdery, to ordain you unto
this first priesthood which you have received, that you might be called and ordained even as
Aaron; and also Elijah, unto whom I have committed the keys of the power of turning the hearts
of the fathers to the children and the hearts of the children to the fathers, that the whole earth
may not be smitten with a curse; and also with Joseph, and Jacob, and Isaac, and Abraham,
your fathers; by whom the promises remain; and also with Michael, or Adam, the father of all,
the prince of all, the ancient of days. And also with Peter, and James, and John, whom I have
sent unto you, by whom I have ordained you and confirmed you to be apostles and especial
witnesses of my name, and bear the keys of your ministry; and of the same things which
revealed unto them; unto whom I have committed the keys of my kingdom, and a dispensation
of the gospel for the last times; and for the fullness of times, in the which I will gather together
in one all things, both which are in heaven and which are on earth; and also with all those
whom my Father hath given me out of the world; wherefore lift up your hearts and rejoice, and
gird up your loins, and take upon you my whole armor, that ye may be able to withstand the evil
day, having done all ye may be able to stand. Stand, therefore, having your loins girt about with
truth, having on the breastplate of righteousness, and your feet shod with the preparation of the
gospel of peace, which I have sent mine angels to commit unto you, taking the shield of faith
wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked; and take the helmet of
salvation, and the sword of my Spirit, which I will pour out upon you, and my word which I
reveal unto you, and be agreed as touching all things whatsoever ye ask of me, and be faithful
until I come, and ye shall be caught up, that where I am ye shall be also. Amen.
Doctrine and Covenants 58:1-3|
Hearken, O ye elders of my church, and give ear to my word, and learn of me what I will
concerning you, and also concerning this land unto which I have sent you; for verily I say unto
you, Blessed is he that keepeth my commandments, whether in life or in death; and he that is
faithful in tribulation, the reward of the same is greater in the kingdom of heaven. Ye can not
behold with your natural eyes, for the present time, the design of your God concerning those
things which shall come hereafter, and the glory which shall follow, after much tribulation. For
after much tribulation come the blessings. Wherefore the day cometh that ye shall be crowned
with much glory; the hour is not yet, but is nigh at hand. Remember this which I tell you before,
that you may lay it to heart, and receive that which shall follow. Behold, verily I say unto you,
For this cause I have sent you that you might be obedient, and that your hearts might be
prepared to bear testimony of the things which are to come; and also that you might be
honored of laying the foundation, and of bearing record of the land upon which the Zion of God
shall stand; and also that a feast of fat things might be prepared for the poor; yea, a feast of
fat things, of wine on the lees well refined, that the earth may know that the mouths of the
prophets shall not fail; yea, a supper of the house of the Lord, well prepared, unto which all
nations shall be invited. Firstly, the rich and the learned, the wise and the noble; and after that
cometh the day of my power; then shall the poor, the lame, and the blind, and the deaf, come
in unto the marriage of the Lamb, and partake of the supper of the Lord, prepared for the
great day to come. Behold, I, the Lord, have spoken it.
06 Joseph Smith's revisions of Psalms 11 and 12
|Psalm 11, King James Version||
Psalm 11, Inspired Version|
|1 In the Lord put I my trust: how say ye to
my soul, Flee as a bird to your mountain?
|1 In that day thou shalt come, O Lord; and I|
will put my trust in thee. Thou shalt say unto
thy people, for mine ear hath heard thy voice;
thou shalt say unto every soul, Flee unto my
mountain; and the righteous shall flee like a
bird that is let go from the snare of the fowler.
|2 For, lo, the wicked bend their bow, they
make ready their arrow upon the string,
that they may privily shoot at the upright
|2 For the wicked bend their bow; lo, they|
make ready their arrow upon the string, that
they may privily shoot at the upright in
heart, to destroy their foundation.
|3 If the foundations be destroyed, what
can the righteous do?
|3 But the foundations of the wicked shall be|
destroyed, and what can they do?
|4 The Lord is in his holy temple, the
Lord's throne is in heaven: his eyes
behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
|4 For the Lord, when he shall come into his|
holy temple, sitting upon God's throne in
heaven, his eyes shall pierce the wicked.
|5 The Lord trieth the righteous: but the
wicked and him that loveth violence his
|5 Behold his eyelids shall try the children of|
men, and he shall redeem the righteous, and
they shall be tried. The Lord loveth the
righteous, but the wicked, and him that loveth
violence, his soul hateth.
|6 Upon the wicked he shall rain snares,
fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest:
this shall be the portion of their cup.
|6 Upon the wicked he shall rain snares,|
fire, and brimstone, and a horrible tempest,
the portion of their cup.
|7 For the righteous Lord loveth
righteousness; his countenance doth behold
|7 For the righteous Lord loveth|
righteousness; his countenance doth behold
Although I know nothing of the Hebrew language, those who know it have testified that the Psalms
employ rich poetic language that cannot be easily translated. So it would be almost impossible not
to put some kind of limiting slant to the range of language suggestions. The slant that Joseph Smith Jr.,
with little if any knowledge of Hebrew, put on Psalm 11 points toward some kind of divine Confrontation.
I discovered this after my basic outline of prophetic sequence had already developed. This then is for
me a confirmation of the interpretations I have developed, whereas for others, especially those
doubting the prophetic calling of Joseph Smith Jr., his expansion of Psalm 11 might be viewed as a
corruption of the meaning.
|Psalm 12, King James Version
||Psalm 12, Inspired Version|
|1 Help, Lord; for the godly man ceaseth;
for the faithful fail from among the children
|1 In that day thou shalt help, O Lord, the poor|
and the meek of the earth. For the godly man
shall cease to be found, and the faithful fail
from among the children of men.
|2 They speak vanity every one with his
neighbour: with flattering lips and with a
double heart do they speak.
|2 They shall speak vanity every one with his|
neighbor; with flattering lips, and with a
double heart do they speak.
|3 The Lord shall cut off all flattering lips,
and the tongue that speaketh proud things:
|3 But the Lord shall cut off all flattering lips,|
the tongue that speaketh proud things,
|4 Who have said, With our tongue will we
prevail; our lips are our own: who is lord
|4 Who have said, With our tongue will we|
prevail, our lips are our own, who shall be
Lord over us?
|5 For the oppression of the poor, for the
sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith
the Lord; I will set him in safety from him
that puffeth at him.
|5 Therefore, thus saith the Lord, I will arise|
in that day, I will stand upon the earth, and
I will judge the earth for the oppression of
the poor, for the sighing of the needy; and
their cry hath entered into mine ear.
|6 The words of the Lord are pure words:
as silver tried in a furnace of earth,
purified seven times.
|6 Therefore the Lord shall sit in judgment|
upon all those who say in their hearts, We
all sit in safety; and puffeth at him. These
are the words of the Lord; yea, pure words,
like silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified
|7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou
shalt preserve them from this generation
|7 Thou shalt save thy people, O Lord; thou|
shalt keep them; thou shalt preserve them
from the wickedness of their generations
|8 The wicked walk on every side, when
the vilest men are exalted.
|8 The wicked walk on every side, and the|
vilest men are exalted; but in the day of their
pride thou shalt visit them.
For some as yet unexplained reason, Joseph Smith Jr., during his revision of the Bible, added the
phrase "in that day", often used in the book of Isaiah, to Psalms 11 and 12. The distressing spiritual
conditions described in the King James Version of Psalm 12 could apply to almost any period of
human history. In the aftermath of the Confrontation (see Malachi 3:1-5 and Luke 12:35-48) the
Inspired Version of Psalm 12 will be appreciated as a bolder way of teaching what Psalm 12 has
always been teaching.
07 Isaiah 1:23-31
The first chapter of Isaiah is a summary of his message. The corrupt nation he describes could
equally apply to the Israel and Judah he knew and the America we know. From verse 23 on, whether
or not it applied to Israel and Judah, it definitely applies to America.
23 Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves; everyone loveth gifts, and followeth
after rewards; they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.
The Obama administration and the arrogant Congress it conspires with are the very dregs of
corruption. An equally corrupt media establishment, that cannot avoid mentioning U.S. government
corruption, does so in a smooth-talking way designed to keep the populace subdued in ignorance.
24 Therefore saith the Lord, the Lord of hosts, the Mighty One of Israel, Ah, I will ease me of
mine adversaries, and avenge me of mine enemies.
25 And I will turn my hand upon thee; and purely purge away thy dross, and take away all thy tin;
26 And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counselors as at the beginning; afterward thou
shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city.
America's government will be reduced to its Constitutional limits as a result of first religious,
then economic cleansing. There is a divine order of judgment: "... judgment must begin at the house
of God ..." (1 Peter 4:17).
first the religious cleansing
27 Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.
28 And the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners shall be together, and they that
forsake the Lord shall be consumed.
This cleansing will be initiated by a Confrontation with Christ. "The sinners in Zion are afraid;
fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who
among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?" (Isaiah 33:14). "The Lord hath made bare his holy
arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God"
then the economic cleansing
29 For they shall be ashamed of the oaks which ye have desired, and ye shall be confounded for
the gardens that ye have chosen.
30 For ye shall be as an oak whose leaf fadeth, and as a garden that hath no water.
31 And the strong shall be as tow, and the maker of it as a spark, and they shall both burn together,
and none shall quench them.
Verse 31 in the 1985 Jewish Publication Society translation reads:
Stored wealth shall become as tow,
And he who amassed it a spark;
And the two shall burn together,
With none to quench.
If any future American economic collapse is not preceded by a cleansing of religion, government
leaders would use the occasion to totally abandon our Constitution. They will in fact attempt to do
that, but because of the religious cleansing, they will fail. "And he that fighteth against Zion, shall
perish, saith God; for he that raiseth up a king against me, shall perish. For I the Lord, the King of
heaven, will be their king; and I will be a light upon them forever, that hear my words. Wherefore,
for this cause, that my covenants may be fulfilled, which I have made unto the children of men, that
I will do unto them while they are in the flesh, I must needs destroy the secret works of darkness,
and of murders, and of abominations; wherefore, he that fighteth against Zion, both Jew and
Gentile, both bond and free, both male and female, shall perish, for they are they who are the whore
of all the earth" (The Book of Mormon 2 Nephi 7:20-24).
how God will "destroy the secret works of darkness" in America
I would suggest comparing The Book of Mormon Alma 17:52-70 with Ether 3:69-102. I would especially
draw attention to four short passages (emphasis mine):
Alma 17:60 "For behold, there is a curse upon all this land, that destruction shall come upon all
those workers of darkness, according to the power of God, when they are fully ripe..."
Alma 17:64 "... cursed be the land for ever and ever unto those workers of darkness and secret
combinations, even unto destruction, except they repent before they are fully ripe."
Ether 3:96 "Wherefore, O ye Gentiles, it is wisdom in God that these things should be shewn unto
you, that thereby ye may repent of your sins, and suffer not that these murderous combinations
shall get above you, which are built up to get power and gain..."
Ether 3:98 "Wherefore the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among
you, that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination
which shall be among you..."
From these statements, it is evident that the means God will use to destroy the secret works of
darkness in America involve the spiritual power of God, a final opportunity for repentance, and
spiritual awakening and repentance by the nation, resulting in legal barriers to any further
usurpation of power over the people. Isaiah 1:24-26 and 52:1-10 suggest to me that, after a
Confrontation with Christ, America's government will be gradually reduced to its constitutional
limits. I am of the opinion that such a reduction process will drive a stake through the heart of
whatever remains of secret works of darkness in America.
posted on Ann Coulter Official Chat in November of 2008
Is dictatorship possible in America?
Many conservative Americans are fearful that an Obama Administration will strip our nation of
constitutional liberties. Some are worried that our Constitution will be abandoned and a dictatorship
established in its place.
The majority of participants in Ann Coulter Official Chat have not read The Book of Mormon from
cover to cover. In its Second Book of Nephi is a passage claiming to be a divine pronouncement
that there shall be no kings in America, a teaching that many conservatives might wish were true,
even if they think that The Book of Mormon is a pack of lies.
"But behold, this land," saith God,
"shall be a land of thine inheritance;
and the Gentiles shall be blessed upon the land,
and this land shall be a land of liberty unto the Gentiles,
and there shall be no kings upon the land
which shall raise up unto the Gentiles;
and I will fortify this land against all other nations,
and he that fighteth against Zion shall perish," saith God;
"for he that raiseth up a king against Me shall perish,
for I, the Lord, the King of heaven, will be their king,
and I will be a light unto them forever
that hear My words.
"Wherefore, for this cause — that My covenants may be
fulfilled which I have made unto the children of men,
that I will do unto them while they are in the flesh —
I must needs destroy the secret works of darkness
and of murders and of abominations;
wherefore, he that fighteth against Zion —
both Jew and Gentile,
both bond and free,
both male and female —
for they are they which are the whore of all the earth;
for they which are not for Me are against Me,"
saith our God;
"for I will fulfill My promises which I have made
unto the children of men, that I will do unto them
while they are in the flesh."
The statement "And I will fortify this land against all other nations" is not a prophecy, but a
promised blessing that I think we are losing because of widespread animosity against Christian
values. The First Book of Nephi warns "... These things must shortly come; yea, even blood, and
fire, and vapor of smoke must come; and it must needs be upon the face of this earth; and it
cometh unto men according to the flesh, if it so be that they will harden their hearts against the
Holy One of Israel." The 2001 terrorist attacks on America, though partially fulfilling this warning,
were human judgments on America that God did not intervene to prevent.
08 ObamaCare death panels
comments by John McDonnell posted at American Thinker website, 2009, December 20|
Why are Senators and Representatives knowingly violating their oath to uphold our Constitution?
Why would they want our government to have such unconstitutional powers over us?
Isaiah 28:15 may reveal the inward thoughts of those voting for government control over the entire
medical industry: "We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when
the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us; for we have made lies our
refuge, and under falsehood we have hid ourselves..."
Josiah Royce's 1913 book The Problem of Christianity, volume I , lecture III, section IX, expresses
the same idea in easier-to-understand language: "As an agitator, the typically restless child of our
age often insists upon heaping up new burdens of social control, — control that he intends to have
others feel rather than himself."
Because I do not want to see a government takeover of health care, I am hoping that what Obama
and the Democrats are trying to do will fail. I admit that I want what they are doing to be fulfilling
Isaiah 28:15, because they would then be doomed to failure: "And your covenant with death shall
be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand" (Isaiah 28:18).
If I have misapplied Isaiah 28:15, and ObamaCare becomes a tyranny over us, and I am slated for
a death panel, I will still be looking for a fulfillment of Isaiah 1:23-26: "Thy princes are rebellious,
and companions of thieves; everyone loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards; they judge not the
fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them. Therefore saith the Lord, the Lord
of hosts, the Mighty One of Israel, Ah, I will ease me of mine adversaries, and avenge me of mine
enemies. And I will turn my hand upon thee; and purely purge away the dross, and take away all
thy tin; and I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counselors as at the beginning; afterward
thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city."
The United States Senate passed its version of ObamaCare on December 24th, 2009.
comments by John McDonnell posted at American Thinker website, 2010, March 6|
Believing as I do that God raised up wise men to establish America's Constitution for purposes
that have not yet been completed, I reject the idea that the fate of America is all in the hands of
mortals who want to preside over Her decline. I believe that Isaiah 28:14-22 has application in
principle to our present situation. It is addressed to "scornful men" who rule the people of a
land of peace (Jeru-salem). "And your covenant with death shall be disannulled and your
agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye
shall be trodden down by it" (verse 18).
The [ObamaCare] bill that was approved by 60 senators allows for public funding of abortions
and denial of medical services at the whim of unelected bureaucrats (death panels). It is true
that if the House approves the Senate bill, President Obama could immediately sign it into law
and that it would thereafter require 2/3 of both House and Senate to overcome a presidential
veto of any attempt to repeal it. But against such "covenant with death" and "agreement with
hell" stands the holy purposes of God, which cannot be frustrated.
President Obama signed ObamaCare into law on March 23rd, 2010, and attorney generals of
several States immediately filed lawsuits against it.
comments by John McDonnell posted at American Thinker website, 2010, March 24|
I believe that Isaiah 28:14-22 has application in principle to our present situation. It is
addressed to "scornful men" who rule the people of a land of peace (Jeru-salem). "And your
covenant with death shall be disannulled and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when
the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it" (verse 18).
Had ObamaCare failed to become law, it would not be the "covenant with death" that it is.
Other translations reduce the King James Version's "disannulled" to "annulled". I like
"disannulled" because it unwittingly combines a modern "dissed" with an ancient "annulled".
If Americans in sufficient numbers rise up against the "scornful men", we might become "the
overflowing scourge" that will drive them out of office.
Isaiah 28:14-22, King James Version|
14 Wherefore hear the word of the Lord, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in
15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at
agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us; for
we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves;
16 Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried
stone, a precious cornerstone, a sure foundation; he that believeth shall not make haste.
17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet; and the hail shall
sweep away the refuge of lies, and the water shall overflow the hiding place.
18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not
stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
19 From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you; for morning by morning shall it pass
over, by day and by night; and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.
20 For the bed is shorter than that a man can stretch himself on it; and the covering
narrower than that he can wrap himself in it.
21 For the Lord shall rise up as in mount Perazim [2 Samuel 5:19-21], he shall be wroth as
in the valley of Gibeon [Joshua 10:1-27], that he may do his work, his strange work; and
bring to pass his act, his strange act.
22 Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong; for I have heard from
the Lord God of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth.
Doctrine and Covenants 94:5d-f|
Vengeance cometh speedily upon the ungodly, as the whirlwind, and who shall escape it? The
Lord's scourge shall pass over by night and by day; and the report thereof shall vex all people
[Isaiah 28:18-19]; yet, it shall not be stayed until the Lord come; for the indignation of the
Lord is kindled against their abominations, and all their wicked works. Nevertheless, Zion
shall escape if she observe to do whatsoever I have commanded her, but if she observe not
to do whatsoever I have commanded her, I will visit her acccording to all her works, with sore
affliction, with pestilence, with plague, with sword, with vengeance, with devouring fire.
Notice the reference to Isaiah 28:18-19.
Doctrine and Covenants 105:9-10|
Vengeance cometh speedily upon the inhabitants of the earth—a day of wrath, a day of
burning, a day of desolation, of weeping, of mourning, and of lamentation—and as a whirlwind
it shall come upon all the face of the earth, saith the Lord. And upon my house shall it begin,
and from my house shall it go forth, saith the Lord, first among those among you, saith the
Lord, who have professed to know my name and have not known me, and have blasphemed
against me in the midst of my house, saith the Lord.
Doctrine and Covenants 98:10d-12e|
And again I say unto you, Those who have been scattered by their enemies, it is my will
that they should continue to importune for redress, and redemption, by the hands of those
who are placed as rulers, and are in authority over you, according to the laws and
constitution of the people which I have suffered to be established, and should be
maintained for the rights and protection of all flesh, according to just and holy principles,
that every man may act in doctrine, and principle pertaining to futurity, according to the
moral agency which I have given unto them, that every man may be accountable for his
own sins in the day of judgment. Therefore, it is not right that any man should be in
bondage one to another. And for this purpose have I established the constitution of this
land, by the hands of wise men whom I raised up unto this very purpose, and redeemed
the land by the shedding of blood.
Now, unto what shall I liken the children of Zion? I will liken them unto the parable of the
woman and the unjust judge (for men ought always to pray and not faint), which saith,
There was in a city a judge which feared not God, neither regarded man. And there was
a widow in that city, and she came unto him, saying, Avenge me of mine adversary. And
he would not for a while, but afterward he said within himself, Though I fear not God, nor
regard men, yet because this widow troubleth me I will avenge her, lest by her continual
coming, she weary me [Luke 18:1-5]. Thus will I liken the children of Zion. Let them
importune at the feet of the [county] judge; and if he heed them not, let them importune
at the feet of the [state] governor; and if the governor heed them not, let them importune
at the feet of the [national] president; and if the president heed them not, then will the
Lord arise and come forth out of his hiding place, and in his fury vex the nation, and in
his hot displeasure, and in his fierce anger, in his time, will cut off these wicked,
unfaithful, and unjust stewards, and appoint them their portion among hypocrites and
unbelievers; even in outer darkness, where there is weeping, and wailing, and gnashing
of teeth. Pray ye, therefore, that their ears may be opened unto your cries, that I may be
merciful unto them, that these things may not come upon them. What I have said unto
you, must needs be, that all men may be left without excuse; that wise men and rulers
may hear and know that which they have never considered [Isaiah 52:15]; that I may
proceed to bring to pass my act, my strange act, and perform my work, my strange work
[Isaiah 28:21]. That men may discern between the righteous and the wicked, saith your
God [Malachi 3:18].
Notice the reference to Isaiah 28:21.
09 Isaiah 33:1-2
Isaiah 33:1, King James Version|
Woe to thee that spoilest, and thou wast not spoiled; and dealest treacherously, and they dealt not
treacherously with thee! when thou shalt cease to spoil, thou shalt be spoiled; and when thou shalt
make an end to deal treacherously, they shall deal treacherously with thee.
The King James Version is one of the few English translations that make a distinction between
second person singular and plural.
|possessive||thy / thine||your / yours
The "thee" and "thou" of Isaiah 33:1 may refer to a famous individual. Notice the three stages
of fulfillment: (1) the individual spoils and deals treacherously, (2) the individual ceases to spoil
or deal treacherously, (3) the individual is spoiled and treacherously dealt with.
letter by John McDonnell in The Washington Weekly, 1998, July 20|
The polarization of the nation over a wicked President's misuse of office is not good. Yet if the
polarization did not occur, and he continued to act as an enemy to the general welfare of the
nation, that would be worse.
Up to now the President has got away with his treacherous dealings, but if Isaiah 33:1 has any
application here, his end will not be pretty. "Woe to thee [singular] that spoilest, and thou wast
not spoiled; and dealest treacherously, and they dealt not treacherously with thee! when thou
shalt cease to spoil, thou shalt be spoiled; and when thou shalt make an end to deal
treacherously, they shall deal treacherously with thee."
Since those opposed to the President's misuse of office generally seek legal means of bringing
him to justice, the ones to deal treacherously would have to be those already skilled at it.
older comments in brown font, comments added in 2013 in red font:
The President referred to in this 1998 interpretation was President Clinton. When it became
obvious that I had misapplied Isaiah 33:1, I considered removing my 1998 interpretation from
these notes. But I later wondered whether or not it might actually apply to President Obama.
FIRST TERM OF OBAMA: Woe to thee that spoilest, and thou wast not spoiled; and
dealest treacherously, and they [the media] dealt not treacherously with thee!
SECOND TERM OF OBAMA: When thou shalt cease to spoil, thou shalt be spoiled; and
when thou shalt make an end to deal treacherously, they [the media] shall deal treacherously
Isaiah 33:1 might be a general principle based on spiritual laws, or it might be, as I have
suggested, a specific prophecy to be fulfilled. If it is to be fulfilled by President Obama, then
his attempts to remake America into a socialist nation will be thwarted by patriots, causing
him to cease spoiling and dealing treacherously with America, which will motivate the media
that protected him to spoil and deal treacherously with him.
Isaiah 33:2, King James Version|
O Lord, be gracious unto us; we have waited for thee: be thou their
arm every morning, our salvation also in the time of trouble.
Isaiah 33:2, Inspired Version
O Lord, be gracious unto us; we have waited for thee: be thou their
arm every morning, their salvation also in the time of trouble.
Here we have church leaders who trusted in the wisdom of the world, stunned by the presence
of Christ, asking that he would be gracious to them. "We have waited for thee" is typical of the
mumbo jumbo they are skilled at. Isaiah prays for them because he sees them as part of the
community of faith and knows that the ease they enjoyed is over.
Other translations seem to undermine this interpretation. I have no knowledge of the Hebrew
language. If "we have waited" is correct, that implies we are no longer waiting. The phrase "we
have waited" is also used in Isaiah 25:9: "And it shall be said in that day, Lo, this is our God; we
have waited for him, and he will save us: this is the Lord; we have waited for him, we will be glad
and rejoice in his salvation."
10 Nephi and Jacob on meaning of Isaiah 49:21-26
|Isaiah 49:21-26 in 1 Nephi
||Nephi's interpretation in 1 Nephi
||Jacob's interpretation in 2 Nephi|
6:51 Then shalt thou say in
thine heart, Who hath
begotten me these, seeing I
have lost my children, and
am desolate, a captive, and
removing to and fro? and
who hath brought up these?
Behold, I was left alone;
these, where have they been?
Nephi's interpretation of this makes a
distinction between the tribes of Israel
already lost and the remnants at
Jerusalem who would later reject the
Holy One of Israel. Jacob's interpretation
focuses on the latter, and predicts their
return to the lands of their inheritance.
Therefore, "hated" refers only to the
scattered Jews who would in 1948
establish the nation named Israel.
|7:6-12 For it appears that the house of
Israel, sooner or later, will be scattered
upon all the face of the earth, and also
among all nations, and behold there are
many who are already lost from the
knowledge of those who are at Jerusalem.
Yea, the more part of all the tribes have
been led away; and they are scattered
to and fro upon the isles of the sea; and
whither they are, none of us knoweth,
save that we know that they have been
led away. And since they have been led
away, these things have been prophesied
concerning them, and also concerning
all those who shall hereafter be
scattered and be confounded, because
of the Holy One of Israel; for against
him will they harden their hearts;
wherefore, they shall be scattered
among all nations, and shall be hated of
|5:28 Wherefore, after they are driven|
to and fro, for thus saith the angel, many
shall be afflicted in the flesh and shall
not be suffered to perish, because of the
prayers of the faithful, they shall be
scattered and smitten, and hated;
5:29 Nevertheless, the Lord will be
merciful unto them, that when they shall
come to the knowledge of their Redeemer,
they shall be gathered together again to
the lands of their inheritance.
7:11 And they who shall not be destroyed,
shall be scattered among all nations.
7:12 But behold, thus saith the Lord God:
When the day cometh that they shall
believe in me, that I am Christ, then have
I covenanted with their fathers, that they
shall be restored in the flesh, upon the
earth, unto the lands of their inheritance.
6:52 Thus saith the Lord
God, Behold, I will lift up
mine hand to the Gentiles,
and set up my standard to
the people; and they shall
bring thy sons in their arms,
and thy daughters shall be
carried upon their shoulders.
6:53 And kings shall be thy
nursing fathers, and their
queens thy nursing mothers:
they shall bow down to thee
with their face towards the
earth, and lick up the dust
of thy feet; ...
"Set up my standard to the people" was
fulfilled through the establishment of
the Constitution of the United States of
America. The Obama Administration has
been purposely and actively trying to
replace the Constitution with dictatorial
administrative control. Their attempt
will, according to Jacob's interpretation,
be thwarted by Christ Himself.
The "kings" and "queens" refers to
Great Britain, which through the
Balfour Declaration of 1917, established
Palestine as a home for the Jewish
There is clearly a break in thought
between Gentiles acting in noble ways
and Gentiles having to bow down in
shame and licking the dust off of feet.
Jacob's interpretation makes it clear
that those having to humiliate themselves
will be "they that fight against Zion and
the covenant people of the Lord".
|7:13-20 Nevertheless, after they have
been nursed by the Gentiles, and the
Lord has lifted up his hand upon the
Gentiles and set them up for a standard,
and their children have been carried in
their arms, and their daughters have
been carried upon their shoulders,
behold, these things of which are
spoken, are temporal: for thus are the
covenants of the Lord with our fathers;
and it meaneth us in the days to come,
and also all our brethren who are of
the house of Israel. And it meaneth
that the time cometh that after all the
house of Israel have been scattered
and confounded, that the Lord God will
raise up a mighty nation among the
Gentiles, yea, even upon the face of
this land; and by them shall our seed
be scattered. And after our seed is
scattered, the Lord God will proceed to
do a marvelous work among the Gentiles,
which shall be of great worth unto our
seed; wherefore, it is likened unto their
being nourished by the Gentiles, and
being carried in their arms, and upon
their shoulders. And it shall also be of
worth unto the Gentiles: and not only
unto the Gentiles, but unto all the house
of Israel, unto the making known of the
covenants of the Father of heaven unto
Abraham, saying, In thy seed shall all
the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
|5:30-33 And blessed are the Gentiles,|
they of whom the prophet has written: For
behold, if it so be that they shall repent
and fight not against Zion, and do not
unite themselves to that great and
abominable church, they shall be saved:
For the Lord God will fulfill his covenants
which he has made unto his children: and
for this cause the prophet has written
these things. Wherefore, they that fight
against Zion and the covenant people of
the Lord, shall lick up the dust of their
7:13-26 And it shall come to pass that
they shall be gathered in from their long
dispersion from the isles of the sea, and
from the four parts of the earth; and the
nations of the Gentiles shall be great in
the eyes of me, saith God, in carrying
them forth to the lands of their
inheritance. Yea, the kings of the
Gentiles shall be nursing fathers unto
them, and their queens shall become
nursing mothers; wherefore the promises
of the Lord are great unto the Gentiles,
for he hath spoken it, and who can
dispute? But behold, this land, saith God,
shall be a land of thine inheritance; and
the Gentiles shall be blessed upon the
land. And this land shall be a land of
liberty unto the Gentiles: and there shall
be no kings upon the land, who shall raise
up unto the Gentiles. And I will fortify
this land against all other nations; and
he that fighteth against Zion, shall perish,
saith God; for he that raiseth up a king
against me, shall perish. For I the Lord,
the King of heaven, will be their king;
and I will be a light upon them forever,
that hear my words. Wherefore, for this
cause, that my covenants may be fulfilled,
which I have made unto the children of
men, that I will do unto them while they
are in the flesh, I must needs destroy the
secret works of darkness, and of murders,
and of abominations; wherefore, he that
fighteth against Zion, both Jew and
Gentile, both bond and free, both male
and female, shall perish: for they are
they who are the whore of all the earth;
for they who are not for me, are against
me, saith our God. For I will fulfill my
promises which I have made unto the
children of men, that I will do unto them
while they are in the flesh.
6:53 ... and thou shalt know
that I am the Lord: for they
shall not be ashamed that
wait for me.
6:54 For shall the prey be
taken from the mighty, or
the lawful captives delivered?
6:55 But thus saith the Lord,
Even the captives of the
mighty shall be taken away,
and the prey of the terrible
shall be delivered: for I will
contend with him that
contendeth with thee, and I
will save thy children.
This is clearly a prophecy of divine
intervention, which I interpret to be the
Confrontation between Christ and those
supposed to be doing His work on Earth,
which marks the beginning of the second
coming of Christ. It is also a prophecy of
the gathering of His people to places of
safety prior to the fall of spiritual
Babylon and the massive destruction of
World War III.
|7:21-25 And I would, my brethren, that
ye should know that all the kindreds of
the earth can not be blessed unless he
shall make bare his arm in the eyes of
the nations [see Isaiah 52:10].
Wherefore, the Lord God will proceed
to make bare his arm in the eyes of
all the nations, in bringing about his
covenants and his gospel, unto those
who are of the house of Israel.
Wherefore, he will bring them again out
of captivity, and they shall be gathered
together to the lands of their
inheritance; and they shall be brought
out of obscurity, and out of darkness;
and they shall know that the Lord is
their Savior and their Redeemer, the
mighty one of Israel.
|5:34-43 And the people of the Lord shall|
not be ashamed. For the people of the
Lord are they that wait for him: for they
still wait for the coming of the Messiah.
And behold, according to the words of the
prophet, the Messiah will set himself
again the second time, to recover them;
wherefore, he will manifest himself unto
them in power and great glory, unto the
destruction of their enemies, when that
day cometh when they shall believe in
him; and none will he destroy that
believe in him. And they that believe not
in him, shall be destroyed, both by fire,
and by tempest, and by earthquakes, and
by bloodsheds, and by pestilence, and by
famine. And they shall know that the Lord
is God, the Holy One of Israel: For shall
the prey be taken from the mighty, or the
lawful captive delivered? But thus saith
the Lord: Even the captives of the mighty
shall be taken away, and the prey of the
terrible shall be delivered: for the mighty
God shall deliver his covenant people. For
thus saith the Lord: I will contend with
them that contendeth with thee, ...
6:56 And I will feed them
that oppress thee with their
own flesh: they shall be
drunken with their own
blood, as with sweet wine:
and all flesh shall know
that I the Lord am thy
Savior and thy Redeemer,
the mighty One of Jacob.
This is a prophecy of World War III.
|7:26-31 And the blood of that great and
abominable church, which is the whore
of all the earth, shall turn upon their
own heads; for they shall war among
themselves, and the sword of their own
hands shall fall upon their own heads,
and they shall be drunken with their
own blood. And every nation which shall
war against thee, O house of Israel,
shall be turned one against another. And
they shall fall into the pit which they
digged to ensnare the people of the
Lord. And all that fight against Zion,
shall be destroyed. And the great whore,
who hath perverted the right ways of the
Lord; yea, that great and abominable
church, shall tumble to the dust, and
great shall be the fall of it.
|5:43-45 ... and I will feed them that|
oppress thee, with their own flesh; and
they shall be drunken with their own
blood, as with sweet wine; and all flesh
shall know that I the Lord am thy Savior
and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of
Although the wording of Isaiah 49:21-26 and the wordings of these interpretations of it are not
easy to understand, their contribution to unraveling the sequence of prophetic fulfillment is enormous.
When I began to understand them, I realized that the Confrontation with Christ "shall cause a great
division among the people" (2 Nephi 12:90). "For the time cometh, saith the Lamb of God, that I will
work a great and a marvelous work among the children of men; a work which shall be everlasting,
either on the one hand or the other; either to the convincing of them unto peace and life eternal, or
unto the deliverance of them to the hardness of their hearts and the blindness of their minds, unto
their being brought down into captivity and also unto destruction, both temporally and spiritually,
according to the captivity of the devil" (1 Nephi 3:214-216). It was because of his own visions of the
future that Nephi was able to make sense out of Isaiah 49:21-26. The Confrontation will be followed
by worldwide missionary activity, then a gathering out of the righteous from among those who
choose wickedness, then World War III for those who fail to flee from Babylon the Great, which shall
fall. All of this fits in with a prophecy by Joseph Smith, Jr.: "And it shall come to pass, among the
wicked, that every man that will not take his sword against his neighbor, must needs flee unto Zion
for safety. And there shall be gathered unto it out of every nation under heaven; and it shall be the
only people that shall not be at war one with another. And it shall be said among the wicked, Let us
not go up to battle against Zion, for the inhabitants of Zion are terrible, wherefore we cannot stand.
And it shall come to pass that the righteous shall be gathered out from among all nations, and shall
come to Zion singing, with songs of everlasting joy" (Doctrine and Covenants 45:13-14).
11 Doctrine and Covenants 108:1
Hearken, O ye people of my church,
saith the Lord your God, and hear
the word of the Lord concerning you;
the Lord who shall suddenly come to
his temple; the Lord who shall come
down upon the world with a curse to
judgment; yea, upon all the nations
that forget God, and upon all the
ungodly among you. For he shall
make bare his holy arm in the eyes
of all the nations, and all the ends of
the earth shall see the salvation of
Malachi 3:1, King James Version|
Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way
before me; and the Lord whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to
his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye
delight in; behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts.
Isaiah 34:5, King James Version
For my sword shall be bathed in heaven; behold, it shall come
down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to
Psalm 9:17, King James Version
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
Jude 14-15, King James Version
And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these,
saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousand of his saints,
to execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are
ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have
ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly
sinners have spoken against him.
Isaiah 52:10, King James Version
The Lord hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the
nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of
12 Doctrine and Covenants 108:7a-10b
Doctrine and Covenants 108
||Revelation, King James Version|
7 a. And now verily saith the Lord, That these
things might be known among you, O inhabitants
of the earth, I have sent forth mine angel, flying
through the midst of heaven, having the
everlasting gospel, who hath appeared unto
some, and hath committed it unto man, who
shall appear unto many that dwell on the earth;
7 b. and this gospel shall be preached unto
every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and
people, and the servants of God shall go forth,
saying, with a loud voice:
7 c. Fear God and give glory to him; for the
hour of his judgment is come; and worship him
that made heaven, and earth, and sea, and the
fountain of waters, ...
|14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of|
heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach
unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every
nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and
give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is
come; and worship him that made heaven, and
earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
|Doctrine and Covenants 108
||Isaiah, King James Version|
7 c. ... calling upon the name of the Lord day
and night, saying: O that thou wouldst rend the
heavens, that thou wouldst come down, that
the mountains might flow down at thy presence.
|64:1 Oh that thou wouldest rend the heavens,|
that thou wouldest come down, that the
mountains might flow down at thy presence,
7 d. And it shall be answered upon their heads,
for the presence of the Lord shall be as the
melting fire that burneth, and as the fire which
causeth the waters to boil.
8 a. O Lord, thou shalt come down to make thy
name known to thine adversaries, and all
nations shall tremble at thy presence.
|64:2 As when the melting fire burneth, the fire|
causeth the waters to boil, to make thy name
known to thine adversaries, that the nations
may tremble at thy presence.
8 b. When thou doeth terrible things, things
they look not for; yea, when thou comest down
and the mountains flow down at thy presence,
thou shalt meet him who rejoiceth and worketh
righteousness, who remembereth thee in thy
|64:3 When thou didst terrible things which we|
looked not for, thou camest down, the mountains
flowed Thou meetest him that rejoiceth and
worketh righteousness, those that remember
thee in thy ways ...
8 c. for since the beginning of the world have
not men heard nor perceived by the ear,
neither hath any eye seen, O God, besides
thee, how great things thou hast prepared for
him that waiteth for thee.
|64:4 For since the beginning of the world men|
have not heard, nor perceived by the ear,
neither hath the eye seen, O God, besides
thee, what he hath prepared for him that
waiteth for him.
9 a. And it shall be said, Who is this that cometh
down from God in heaven with dyed garments;
yea, from the regions which are not known,
clothed in his glorious apparel, traveling in the
greatness of his strength?
9 b. And he shall say, I am he who spake in
righteousness, mighty to save.
|63:1 Who is this that cometh from Edom, with|
dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is
glorious in his apparel, traveling in the
greatness of his strength? I that speak in
righteousness, mighty to save.
9 c. And the Lord shall be red in his apparel,
and his garments like him that treadeth the
wine vat, and so great shall be the glory of his
presence, that the sun shall hide his face in
shame; and the moon shall withhold its light;
and the stars shall be hurled from their places;
|63:2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel,|
and thy garments like him that treadeth in the
9 d. and his voice shall be heard, I have trodden
the winepress alone, and have brought judgment
upon all people; and none was with me;
9 e. and I have trampled them in my fury, and I
did tread upon them in mine anger, and their
blood have I sprinkled upon my garments, and
stained all my raiment; for this was the day of
vengeance which was in my heart.
|63:3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and|
of the people there was none with me; for I
will tread them in mine anger, and trample
them in my fury; and their blood shall be
sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain
all my raiment.
63:4 For the day of vengeance is in mine
10 a. And now the year of my redeemed is
|63:4 ... and the year of my redeemed is come.|
||63:5 And I looked, and there was none to help;|
and I wondered that there was none to uphold;
therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto
me; and my fury, it upheld me.
63:6 And I will tread down the people in mine
anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I
will bring down their strength to the earth.
10 a. ... and they shall mention the loving
kindness of their Lord, and all that he has
bestowed upon them, according to his goodness,
and according to his loving kindness, for ever
|63:7 I will mention the loving-kindnesses of|
the Lord, and the praises of the Lord, according
to all that the Lord hath bestowed on us, and
the great goodness toward the house of Israel,
which he hath bestowed on them according to
his mercies, and according to the multitude of
||63:8 For he said, Surely they are my people,
children that will not lie; so he was their Savior.
10 b. In all their afflictions he was afflicted. And
the angel of his presence saved them; and in
his love, and in his pity, he redeemed them, and
bare them, and carried them all the days of old.
|63:9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and|
the angel of his presence saved them; in his
love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he
bare them, and carried them all the days of old.
13 the "whirlwind"
Jeremiah 23:19-20, King James Version|
Behold, a whirlwind of the Lord is gone forth in fury, even a grievous whirlwind; it shall fall grievously
upon the head of the wicked. The anger of the Lord shall not return, until he have executed, and till he
have performed the thoughts of his heart; in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly.
Jeremiah 30:23-24, King James Version|
Behold, the whirlwind of the Lord goeth forth with fury, a continuing whirlwind; it shall fall with pain
upon the head of the wicked. The fierce anger of the Lord shall not return, until he have done it, and
until he have performed the interests of his heart; in the latter days ye shall consider it.
Doctrine and Covenants 63:2|
Let the wicked take heed, and let the rebellious fear and tremble, and let the unbelieving hold their lips,
for the day of wrath shall come upon them as a whirlwind, and all flesh shall know that I am God.
Doctrine and Covenants 94:5d-f|
Vengeance cometh speedily upon the ungodly, as the whirlwind, and who shall escape it? The Lord's
scourge shall pass over by night and by day; and the report thereof shall vex all people; yet, it shall not
be stayed until the Lord come; for the indignation of the Lord is kindled against their abominations,
and all their wicked works. Nevertheless, Zion shall escape if she observe to do whatsoever I have
commanded her, but if she observe not to do whatsoever I have commanded her, I will visit her
acccording to all her works, with sore affliction, with pestilence, with plague, with sword, with
vengeance, with devouring fire.
Doctrine and Covenants 105:9-10|
Vengeance cometh speedily upon the inhabitants of the earth—a day of wrath, a day of burning, a day
of desolation, of weeping, of mourning, and of lamentation—and as a whirlwind it shall come upon all
the face of the earth, saith the Lord. And upon my house shall it begin, and from my house shall it go
forth, saith the Lord, first among those among you, saith the Lord, who have professed to know my name
and have not known me, and have blasphemed against me in the midst of my house, saith the Lord.
14 Doctrine and Covenants 28:5, Zechariah 14:12, and Ezekiel 38 - 39
Doctrine and Covenants 28:5
Wherefore, I, the Lord God, will send
forth flies upon the face of the earth,
which shall take hold of the inhabitants
thereof, and shall eat their flesh, and
shall cause maggots to come in upon
them, and their tongues shall be stayed
that they shall not utter against me, and
their flesh shall fall off their bones, and
their eyes from their sockets (Zechariah
14:12); and it shall come to pass that
the beasts of the forest and the fowls of
the air shall devour them up (Ezekiel
39:17-20); and the great and abominable
church, which is the whore of all the
earth, shall be cast down by devouring
fire (Ezekiel 38:22; 39:6), according as it
is spoken by the mouth of Ezekiel the
prophet, which spoke of these things,
which have not come to pass, but surely
must, as I live, for abomination shall
Zechariah 14:12, King James Version|
And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all
the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall
consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes
shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall
consume away in their mouth.
Exekiel 39:17-20, King James Version
And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord God; Speak unto
every feathered fowl, and to every beast of the field, Assemble
yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to my
sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, even a great sacrifice upon
the mountains of Israel, that ye may eat flesh, and drink blood.
Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the
princes of the earth, of rams, of lambs, and of goats, of bullocks,
all of them fatlings of Bashan. And ye shall eat fat till ye be
full, and drink blood till ye be drunken, of my sacrifice which I
have sacrificed for you. Thus ye shall be filled at my table with
horses and chariots, with mighty men, and with all men of war,
saith the Lord God.
Ezekiel 38:22, King James Version
And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and
I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many
people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great
hailstones, fire, and brimstone.
Ezekiel 39:6, King James Version
And I will send a fire on Magog, and and among them that
dwell carelessly in the isles ...
These prophecies will be fulfilled during the period of the Third Woe.
first woe = fifth trumpet = divine judgments on the Lord's people
second woe = sixth trumpet = World War III = the fall of Babylon
third woe = seventh trumpet = destruction of the wicked by Christ
15 Ezekiel 40 - 48, Revelation 11:1-2, and Alma 16:207-217
letter by John McDonnell in Saints Herald, 1975, Oct.
Several recent books by Protestants
predict a temple and altar will be built in
Jerusalem on the plan of Ezekiel 40-48.
Their proof-text is Revelation 11:1-2. But
Ezekiel 40-48 was revoked because of
disobedience (Ezekiel 43:10-11 with
Doctrine and Covenants 56:2a) and after
the sacrifice of Christ cannot be instituted
(Hebrews 10:10-18). When Jesus visited
his other sheep (John 10:16) he asked
them to offer him the sacrifice of a
broken heart and a contrite spirit (III Nephi
4:49). This kind of sacrifice was what
Jesus had in mind when he gave John
Revelation 11:1-2, which was expounded
by James Usher (1581-1656): "... Look
you be not found in the Outward Court, but
a worshipper in the Temple before the
Altar, for Christ will measure all those that
profess his Name, and call themselves his
People; and the Outward worshippers he
will leave out, to be trodden down by the
Gentiles. The Outward Court is the formal
Christian, whose Religion lies in performing
the out side duties of Christianity, without
having an inward Life and Power of Faith
and love, uniting them to Christ, and these
God will leave to be trodden down, and
swept away by the Gentiles; But the
worshippers within the Temple and before
the Altar, are those who do indeed
worship God in spirit and in Truth, whose
Souls are made his Temples, and he is
honoured and adored in the most inward
thoughts of their hearts, and they
Sacrifice their Lusts and vile affections,
yea, and their own wills to him; and these
God will hide in the hollow of his Hand, and
under the shadow of his wings ..." (Strange
and Remarkable Prophesies and Predictions
Of the Holy, Learned, and excellent James
Usher, London, 1678).
Revelation 11:1-2, King James Version|
And there was given me a reed like unto a rod; and the angel stood, saying,
Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship
therein. But the court which is without the temple, leave out, and measure
it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles; and the holy city shall they tread
under foot forty and two months.
Ezekiel 43:10-11, King James Version
Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be
ashamed of their iniquities; and let them measure the pattern. And if they
be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house,
and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in
thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all
the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof; and write it in their sight, that
they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and
Doctrine and Covenants 56:2a
Behold, I the Lord commandeth, and he that will not obey shall be cut off in
mine own due time; and after that I have commanded and the commandment
is broken, wherefore I the Lord command and revoke, as it seemeth me
good, and all this to be answered upon the heads of the rebellious, saith
Hebrews 10:10-18, King James Version
By which will we are sanctified through the offering once of the body of
Jesus Christ. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering
oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins; but this
man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the
right hand of God; from henthforth to reign until his enemies be made his
footstool. For by one offering he hath perfected forever them that are
sanctified. Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us; for after that
he had said before, This is the covenant that I will make with them after
those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their
minds will I write them; and their sins and iniquities will I remember no
more. Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
John 10:16, King James Version
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold; them also I must bring,
and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
The Book of Mormon 3 Nephi 4:49
And ye shall offer up unto me no more the shedding of blood; yea, your
sacrifices and your burnt offerings shall be done away, for I will accept none
of your sacrifices and your burnt offerings; and ye shall offer for a sacrifice
unto me a broken heart and a contrite spirit.
The Book of Mormon Alma 16:207-217|
Behold, I say unto you, that I do know that Christ shall come among the children of men, to take
upon him the transgressions of his people, and that he shall atone for the sins of the world; for the
Lord God has spoken it; for it is expedient that an atonement should be made; for according to
the great plan of the eternal God, there must be an atonement made, or else all mankind must
unavoidably perish; yea, all are hardened; yea, all are fallen, and are lost, and must perish except
it be through the atonement which it is expedient should be made; for it is expedient that there
should be a great and last sacrifice; yea, not a sacrifice of man, neither of beast, neither of any
manner of fowl; for it shall not be a human sacrifice: but it must be an infinite and eternal sacrifice.
Now there is not any man that can sacrifice his own blood, which will atone for the sins of another.
Now if a man murdereth, behold, will our law, which is just, take the life of his brother? I say unto
you, Nay. But the law requireth the life of him who hath murdered; therefore there can be nothing,
which is short of an infinite atonement, which will suffice for the sins of the world; therefore it is
expedient that there should be a great and last sacrifice; and then shall there be, or it is expedient
there should be, a stop to the shedding of blood; then shall the Law of Moses be fulfilled; yea, it
shall all be fulfilled; every jot and tittle, and none shall have passed away. And behold, this is the
whole meaning of the law; every whit pointing to that great and last sacrifice; and that great and last
sacrifice will be the Son of God; yea, infinite and eternal; and thus he shall bring salvation to all
those who shall believe on his name; this being the intent of this last sacrifice, to bring about the
bowels of mercy, which overpowereth justice and bringeth about means unto men that they may
have faith unto repentance. And thus mercy can satisfy the demands of justice, and encircles them
in the arms of safety, while he that exercises no faith unto repentance, is exposed to the whole law
of the demands of justice; therefore, only unto him that has faith unto repentance, is brought about
the great and eternal plan of redemption.
16 the 70th "week" of Daniel chapter 9
The actual text of Daniel mentions seventy sevens. What these sevens are is not explained. King
James translators guessed that since a week has seven days the sevens must mean weeks. But
since seventy weeks is too short a time for what is predicted, people guessed that, using a day
stands for a year scale, the seventy weeks must mean 490 years. There was confusion over when
the 490 years began and ended. On top of that confusion came a theory that only the first 69 weeks
have been fulfilled and that at some future time the 70th week would be fulfilled. By this theory we
are living near the end of a long gap between the 69th and 70th weeks that has lasted for nearly
2 000 years.
If all these guesses were not enough confusion, some of the events predicted are given opposite
meanings by interpreters. Some think it predicted Jesus Christ, some the antichrist, some both.
Some think it was fulfilled at the death and resurrection of Jesus, some think forty years later during
the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans, and "gappers" are still waiting for the 70th week to
begin. No interpretation I have read is free from lots of guesswork.
I don't know who else has thought about this, but I have wondered if the seventy sevens meant
seventy seven-fold sins against God, which may tie in with the statement of Jesus about forgiving
not just seven times but seventy times seven times, which of course is equal to 490. The advantage
of this way of reading Daniel's prophecy is that it focuses attention on the spiritual relationship
between God and His people, not on chronological theories that are always inadequate or even
Since the Atonement of Christ is the only basis for salvation, it deserves more attention than
chronological theories. Are there limits to the Atonement? After all, it was completed at one time
in history, and therefore had to cover all humans, past, present, and future. If there were, and
therefore are, limits to the Atonement, anything exceeding cannot be covered, because there can
be no time-travel back to enlarge the scope of what has already been completed. So maybe
Christ atoned for seventy seven-fold sins, but no more.
This may explain why God allows the destruction of wicked nations. If they were allowed to sin past
the limits of the Atonement, they might become ineligible for any degree of salvation. I believe that
the forces of evil in America are so corrupting and so past correcting that severe judgments on
America are imminent, especially since America has important responsibilities to fulfill in these
last days before the return of Christ to reign on Earth for a thousand years.
After much study I believe that Micah 5:10-15 will be fulfilled soon. It is a poetic passage not easy
to understand, but I believe it applies to spiritual conditions in America. Unless God intervenes to
"execute vengeance in anger and fury upon the heathen" America could drift past the limits of
Atonement and lose its purpose in the divine scheme of things.
17 the meaning of Micah 5:8-15
Micah uttered his prophecies "in the days of Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah" (Micah 1:1).
Although Micah 5:8-15 is difficult to understand, certain events some years later, during the days of Josiah,
king of Judah, throw some light on the meaning. Then, The Book of Mormon has the resurrected Jesus
quoting Micah 5:8-15 with some additional phrases that I think help clarify the meaning of the passage.
|Micah 5, King James Version
||2 Kings 23, King James Version
||The Book of Mormon 3 Nephi 9|
8 And the remnant of Jacob shall|
be among the Gentiles in the midst
of many people, as a lion among
the beasts of the forest, as a young
lion among the flocks of sheep;
who, if he go through, both treadeth
down, and teareth in pieces, and
none can deliver.
99 And my people who are a|
remnant of Jacob, shall be among
the Gentiles, yea, in the midst of
them, as a lion among the beasts of
the forest, as a young lion among
the flocks of sheep, who, if he go
through both treadeth down and
teareth in pieces, and none can
9 Thy hand shall be lifted up upon|
thine adversaries, and all thine
enemies shall be cut off.
100 Their hand shall be lifted up|
upon their adversaries, and all
their enemies shall be cut off.
10 And it shall come to pass in
that day, saith the Lord, that I will
cut off thy horses out of the midst
of thee, and I will destroy thy
|11 And he took away the horses|
that the kings of Judah had given
to the sun, at the entering in of the
house of the Lord, by the chamber
of Nathan-melech the chamberlain,
which was in the suburbs, and
burned the chariots of the sun with
101 Yea, wo be unto the Gentiles,|
except they repent, for it shall come
to pass in that day, saith the Father,
that I will cut off thy horses out of
the midst of thee, and I will destroy
11 And I will cut off the cities of|
thy land, and throw down all thy
101 and I will cut off the cities of|
thy land, and throw down all thy
12 And I will cut off witchcrafts|
out of thy hand; and thou shalt have
no more soothsayers.
102 And I will cut off witchcrafts|
out of thy hand, and thou shalt have
no more soothsayers:
13 Thy graven images also will I|
cut off, and thy standing images
out of the midst of thee; and thou
shalt no more worship the work
of thine hands.
14 And he brake in pieces the|
103 Thy graven images I will also|
cut off, and thy standing images out
of the midst of thee; and thou shalt
no more worship the works of thy
14 And I will pluck up thy groves|
out of the midst of thee; so will I
destroy thy cities.
14 ... and cut down the groves ...||
104 And I will pluck up thy groves|
out of the midst of thee; so will I
destroy thy cities.
5 And he put down the idolatrous|
priests, whom the kings of Judah
had ordained to burn incense in
the high places in the cities of
Judah, and in the places round
about Jerusalem; them also that
burned incense unto Baal, to the
sun, and to the moon, and to the
planets, and to all the host of
105 And it shall come to pass that|
all lyings, and deceivings, and
envyings, and strifes, and
priestcrafts and whoredoms, shall
be done away.
15 And I will execute vengeance|
in anger and fury upon the heathen,
such as they have not heard.
106 For it shall come to pass,|
saith the Father, that at that day,
whomsoever will not repent and
come unto my beloved Son, them
will I cut off from among my
people, O house of Israel, and I
will execute vengeance and fury
upon them, even as upon the
heathen, such as they have not
I think this will be fulfilled after what I call the Confrontation
takes place, which I think is imminent.
18 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
Many Christians believe that "the rapture", being caught up to be with Christ while those
left on earth go through terrible experiences, is imminent. By contrast, I find the scriptures
teaching that a Confrontation with Christ is imminent, and that "the rapture" will not occur
until Christ descends to reign upon Earth for a thousand years, which will happen several
years after the Confrontation. Many Christians believe that once they are raptured, they
will be leaving the Earth, whereas I believe they will then descend with Christ and will live
out the remainder of their mortality on the Earth. When death comes, their bodies will be
changed into an immortal condition.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, Helen Montgomery's 1924 translation|
But I would not have you ignorant, brothers, about those who are falling asleep. You must
not sorrow like other men, who have no hope. For if we really believe that Jesus died and
rose again, so even so will God through Jesus bring with him those also who have fallen
asleep. For this I tell you by the word of the Lord, that we who are living, who survive unto
the coming of the Lord, will in no wise precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord
himself with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God will descend
from heaven. Then the dead in Christ will rise first; and afterwards we who are alive, who
remain, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air; and
so shall we ever be with the Lord. So comfort one another with these words.
Doctrine and Covenants 26:3g|
Be faithful until I come, and ye shall be caught up, that where I am ye shall be also.
Doctrine and Covenants 63:13c-e|
Blessed are the dead that die in the Lord from henceforth. When the Lord shall come, and
old things shall pass away, and all things become new, they shall rise from the dead and
shall not die after, and shall receive an inheritance before the Lord, in the holy city. And he
that liveth when the Lord shall come, and has kept the faith, blessed is he; nevertheless it
is appointed to him to die at the age of man; wherefore children shall grow up until they
become old, old men shall die; but they shall not sleep in the dust, but they shall be
changed in the twinkling of an eye.
Doctrine and Covenants 85:27b-d|
And the saints that are upon the earth, who are alive, shall be quickened, and be caught
up to meet him. And they who have slept in their graves, shall come forth; for their graves
shall be opened, and they also shall be caught up to meet him in the midst of the pillar of
heaven: they are Christ's the first fruits: they who shall descend with him first, and they
who are on the earth, and in their graves, who are first caught up to meet him; and all this
by the voice of the sounding of the trump of the angel of God.
This passage starts out mentioning the rapture of living saints before mentioning the
resurrection of saints who have slept in their graves. But then it puts back it in
chronological order by stating that those in their graves are first caught up to meet him.
Joseph Smith's expansion of Luke 17:26-37
King James Version
|26 And as it was in the days of Noe; so
shall it be also in the days of the Son
|26 And as it was in the days of Noe; so|
shall it be also in the days of the Son
|27 They did eat, they drank, they married
wives, they were given in marriage, until
the day that Noe entered into the ark, and
the flood came, and destroyed them all.
|27 They did eat, they drank, they married|
wives, they were given in marriage, until
the day that Noe entered into the ark, and
the flood came, and destroyed them all.
|28 Likewise also as it was in the days of
Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought,
they sold, they planted, they builded;
|28 Likewise also as it was in the days of|
Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought,
they sold, they planted, they builded;
|29 But the same day that Lot went out of
Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from
heaven, and destroyed them all.
|29 But the same day that Lot went out of|
Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from
heaven, and destroyed them all.
|30 Even thus shall it be in the day when
the Son of man is revealed.
|30 Even thus shall it be in the day when|
the Son of man is revealed.
|31 In that day, he which shall be upon the
housetop, and his stuff in the house, let
him not come down to take it away; and
he that is in the field, let him likewise
not return back.
|31 In that day, the disciple who shall be|
on the housetop, and his stuff in the
house, let him not come down to take it
away; and he who is in the field, let him
likewise not return back.
|32 Remember Lot's wife.
||32 Remember Lot's wife.|
|33 Whosoever shall seek to save his
life, shall lose it; and whosoever shall
lose his life, shall preserve it.
|33 Whosoever shall seek to save his|
life, shall lose it; and whosoever shall
lose his life, shall preserve it.
|34 I tell you, in that night there shall be
two men in one bed; the one shall be
taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together;
the one shall be taken, and the other left.
|34 I tell you, in that night there shall be|
two in one bed; the one shall be taken,
and the other shall be left. Two shall be
grinding together; the one shall be taken,
and the other left.
|36 Two men shall be in the field; the one
shall be taken and the other left.
|35 Two shall be in the field; the one|
shall be taken and the other left.
|37 And they answered and said unto him,
Where, Lord? And he said unto them,
Wheresoever the body is, thither will the
eagles be gathered together.
|36 And they answered and said unto him,|
Where, Lord, shall they be taken?
37 And he said unto them, Wheresoever
the body is gathered; or, in other words,
whithersoever the saints are gathered,
thither will the eagles be gathered
together; or, thither will the remainder
be gathered together.
||38 This he spake, signifying the|
gathering of his saints; and of angels
descending and gathering the
remainder unto them; the one from the
bed, the other from the grinding, and
the other from the field, whithersoever
||39 For verily there shall be new heavens,|
and a new earth, wherein dwelleth
||40 And there shall be no unclean thing;|
for the earth becoming old, even as as
garment, having waxed in corruption,
wherefore it vanisheth away, and the
footstool remaineth sanctified, cleansed
from all sin.
19 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12
|King James Version
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the|
coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by
our gathering together unto him,
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the|
coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by
our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or|
be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word,
nor by letter, as from us, as that the day
of Christ is at hand.
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or|
be troubled by letter, except ye receive
it from us; neither by spirit, nor by word,
as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means:|
for that day shall not come, except there
come a falling away first, and that man of
sin be revealed, the son of perdition,
3 Let no man deceive you by any means;|
for there shall come a falling away first,
and that man of sin be revealed, the son
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself|
above all that is called God, or that is
worshipped; so that he as God sitteth
in the temple of God, shewing himself
that he is God.
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself|
above all that is called God, or that is
worshiped; so that he as God sitteth
in the temple of God, showing himself
that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was|
yet with you, I told you these things?
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was|
yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth|
that he might be revealed in his time.
6 And now ye know what withholdeth|
that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth|
already work: only he who now letteth
will let, until he be taken out of the way.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth|
already work, and he it is who now
worketh, and Christ suffereth him to
work, until the time is fulfilled that he
shall be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that wicked be|
revealed, whom the Lord shall consume
with the spirit of his mouth, and shall
destroy with the brightness of his coming:
8 And then shall that wicked one be|
revealed, whom the Lord shall consume
with the spirit of his mouth, and shall
destroy with the brightness of his coming.
9 Even him, whose coming is after the|
working of Satan with all power and
signs and lying wonders,
9 Yea, the Lord, even Jesus, whose|
coming is not until after there cometh a
falling away, by the working of Satan with
all power, and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of|
unrighteousness in them that perish;
because they received not the love of
the truth, that they might be saved.
10 And with all deceivableness of|
unrighteousness in them that perish;
because they received not the love of
the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send|
them strong delusion, that they should
believe a lie:
11 And for this cause God shall send|
them strong delusion, that they should
believe a lie;
12 That they all might be damned who|
believed not the truth, but had pleasure
12 That they all might be damned who|
believed not the truth, but had pleasure
a translation dilemma
An interlinear Greek-English New Testament will show that the transition between 2 Thessalonians
2:8 and 2:9 is too abrupt to make sense in English. A good translator must understand what is meant
in the Greek and then put that meaning in English. In the following review words without direct basis
in the Greek are put in brackets.
King James Version
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth,
and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 [Even him,] whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
8 And then shall that wicked one be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the breath of his
mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.
9 [Yea, the Lord, even Jesus,] whose coming is [not until after there cometh a falling away,] by the
working of Satan with all power, and signs and lying wonders,
Ferrar Fenton's translation (1905 edition)
8 and then the outlaw will become manifest, whom the Lord will destroy by the spirit of His mouth,
and extinguish by the manifestation of His presence.
9 [This outlaw's] arrival will be accompanied by the energy of Satan with all powers, and signs, and
terrors of falsehood;
Helen Montgomery's translation (1924)
8 and then the lawless one will be revealed. Him the Lord will consume with the breath of his lips,
and destroy with the brightness of his appearing;
9 [even he] whose coming is according to the energy of Satan, in every power and sign and lying
New International Version (1984 edition)
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord [Jesus]* will overthrow with the breath
of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
9 The coming [of the lawless one] will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds
of counterfeit miracles, signs, and wonders,
(*this is in some manuscripts)
Doctrine and Covenants 1:6|
And again, verily I say unto you, O inhabitants of the earth, I, the Lord, am willing to make these
things known unto all flesh, for I am no respecter of persons, and will that all men shall know that
the day speedily cometh—the hour is not yet, but is nigh at hand—when peace shall be taken from
the earth, and the Devil shall have power over his own dominion; and also the Lord shall have
power over his saints, and shall reign in their midst, and shall come down in judgment upon Idumea,
or the world.
My interpretations of phrases in Doctrine and Covenants 1:6 are as follows:
when peace shall be taken from the earth — World War I, followed by World War II
and the Devil shall have power over his own dominion — the restoration of the Islamic caliphate,
culminating in a false messiah and the rise of anti-Christian Islamic government
and also the Lord shall have power over his saints — the Confrontation with Christ, worldwide
preaching of His gospel, and the gathering of the righteous
and shall reign in their midst — His increasing Presence as Zion is established while the rest of the
world is caught up in World War III
and shall come down in judgment upon Idumea, or the world — the destruction of the wicked by
Christ and the commencement of His millennial reign
20 extracts from 1995 notes on prophecies
comments added later are in blue
An Outline of the Book of Revelation
From my point of view, the first three verses of the Book of Revelation are an editorial introduction to
the remainder of the book. This introduction would have been written, by a general officer of the
international church, after John's letter of testimony to seven churches in his jurisdiction, already
published in book form, had been confirmed to be true and of interest to the entire church. The remainder
of the book appears to be exactly what John wrote for the seven congregations that looked to him for
The individual and collective messages to the seven congregations are for the purpose of substantiating
the vision of the future granted to John to see, hear, and try to communicate. Had the counsel in chapters
1:4 through 3:22 proven to be out of touch with the spiritual conditions in the seven congregations (or
groups of congregations), the entire book would have been dismissed as a fraud, a well-meaning fraud,
since by a person of great spiritual stature, but definitely not something to be published.
Since the book was approved by general church leaders, the authorship by the apostle John is authentic,
all who knew of the seven congregations knew its assessment was inspired of God, and the Holy Spirit
had been felt confirming the truth of John's long letter of testimony.
John's testimony appears to be narrated in the order it unfolded, not in the order in which it would be
fulfilled, although the general outline tends towards that...
In 2015, I eliminated the rest of this outline because I felt that it did not contribute to understanding.
May 21, 1995
The event that marks the beginning of the first woe is the sudden manifestation of Jesus Christ among
those supposed to be doing his work. Because there will be opposition to the cleansing process
of the first woe, the period will close out with some divine jugments on America (see 1 Nephi 7:38-40;
Isaiah 5:18-30; Revelation 9:1-11). Those who think that America will never be attacked successfully
should study the 1 Nephi 7:38-40 quote: "... These things must shortly come; yea, even blood, and fire,
and vapor of smoke must come; and it must needs be upon the face of this earth; and it cometh unto men
according to the flesh, if it so be that they will harden their hearts against the Holy One of Israel."
I think that the 2001 terrorist attacks on America, though partially fulfilling 1 Nephi 7:38-40, were human
judgments on America that God did not intervene to prevent.
May 29, 1995
The results of the Confrontation would have to be at least these:
1. A humbling of persons called to lead his church on the earth.
2. A cleansing of the church in its doctrines and practises and attitudes.
3. A sudden increase in missionary activities and fervor.
4. Persecution, or at least menacing scrutiny, of anyone claiming to have direct encounter with Christ.
Attempts to discredit the Confrontation as psychological deception or hysteria.
5. Persecution, or at least intense anger at those believing the testimonies of those having direct
encounters with Christ.
6. Reactions to the new emphasis on Christian moral standards in the economic realm (for there will be
intense criticism of greed and arrogance and calls for economic justice and fraternity). If such criticism
occurs before an economic or monetary collapse, such a collapse would be especially distressing to those
liking economic systems based on greed and personal power.
May 29, 1995
The Triumph of Religious Influence
At present the media is using its power and influence to portray anyone who believes strongly about
anything as an unreasonable radical. The shock caused by the Confrontation will at first prompt the
media to use its customary tactics of suppression, ridicule, and scare techniques. But as the cleansing
of religion proceeds, the religious leaders remaining will be precisely those most obnoxious to the elite
who control the media. In the prophecies of Jesus recorded in The Book of Mormon, in the Third Book of
Nephi, we have a vision of the triumph of Christian influence in America (3 Nephi 9:99 - 10:25). This will
cause angry rebellions against absolute moral standards to move into areas rejecting the rising religious
influence, and it is upon those areas that divine judgments will more pointedly fall.
May 31, 1995
The Triumph of Principles
Any interpretation of scriptural prophecies that fails to note the principles involved in fulfillments is
merely wishful thinking. Principles are based on spiritual realities. Is this quote from The Book of
Mormon a mere prediction, or does it reveal a principle based on spiritual realities? "And I would,
my brethren, that ye should know that all the kindreds of the earth can not be blessed unless he
shall make bare his arm in the eyes of the nations" (1 Nephi 7:21). Would this thought be welcome
at a meeting of the Council on Foreign Relations, or at a high-level meeting at the United Nations?
Prophecies must conform to principles or they cannot be inspired of God.
Here is an interesting quote from "Principles of Prediction of Gildas the Prophet", Iolo Manuscripts,
p.609. "He that will be a prophet of God must never rest till he has traced everything to its cause
and mode of operation. He will then know what God does, for God does nothing but what should be,
in the manner it should be, at the time and in the order it should be. By understanding these laws of
God, he will be able to see and foretell the future" (quoted from St. Paul in Britain by
Rev. R. W. Morgan).
Do these words from a recorded prayer of Jesus refer to or express a spiritual principle? "I pray
not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil"
(John 17:15). I believe that during the periods of the first woe, the second woe, and the third woe
Christians will be on the Earth. By what principle would they be raptured away from their work
assignments to escape tribulations? Christians will overcome evil with good. During the first woe
they will clean up their own act, preach the gospel in all the world, help establish a just economic
system, restore Constitutional government, and prepare for the gathering of the saints. During the
second woe they will make God's kingdom on the Earth a reality while the rest of the world is at
war. During the third woe they will be making their final preparations for the second coming of
Christ to reign on Earth for a thousand years.
May 31, 1995
In both World War I and II there were two military alliances and nations trying to stay out of war.
But in World War III there will be three competing military alliances and gatherings of nations
trying to stay out of war. It will be among these peace-loving peoples that God's kingdom will be
established. Here is how I come up with three military alliances. Revelation 9:17 states: "They
had breastplates of fire, 'red as fire, dark blue as jacinth, and yellow as sulphur'" (Helen
Montgomery's 1924 translation). Note the three colors, which I take to represent military insignias.
Revelation 16:19 states: "and the great city was shattered into three parts." Great differences of
opinion have clashed over whether "the great city" refers to the Babylonian system or to the city
Jerusalem. I will not argue the point. The fulfillment of prophecy will show who, if anyone, had the
May 31, 1995
What is it about this society and its spiritual characteristics that makes me seriously wonder if the
Lord is about to suddenly come to his temple? Or is my interpretation of the prophetic hour based
upon my own personal frustrations? All of these notes are based on scriptural studies and thoughts
about those studies. I do not claim any spiritual promptings to write these things, but only a desire to
understand what is about to happen. Where does this desire come from? For me the scriptures are
an authoritative source of spiritual information. When The Book of Mormon has Jesus predicting,
"And it shall come to pass that all lyings, and deceivings, and envyings, and strifes, and priestcrafts,
and whoredoms shall be done away" (3 Nephi 9:105), I believe it and look for the mighty changes
that would have to occur before such a prediction could be fulfilled. Knowing enough of the spiritual
conditions of my age to know that nothing short of divine intervention would be necessary before
such a prediction could be fulfilled, I therefore look for predictions of divine intervention, and I find
them in Malachi 3:1-5, Doctrine and Covenants 105:9-10, etc. My studies have merely tried to
coordinate scattered prophecies into a coherent glimpse into the near future especially. I cannot
deny the personal frustrations that drove me to search out this subject. I feel I have discovered things
transcending my personal frustrations. The attention should be on the prophecies I have quoted or
referred to. They speak for themselves. This book should be of interest to anyone who believes that
scriptures can reveal truths about the future.
1 Peter 4:17: "... judgment must begin at the house of God ..."
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Rebuild Their Lives
|Casting Off the
Burden of Debts
|Reduction to Limits|
On February 14, 2009, on the Ann Coulter Official Chat message board, I gave my answer to
the question, "So what DID end the Great Depression?":
During the Great Depression, the several million farm families, because the raw materials they
produced were priced below a fair exchange value with other goods and services, were not a good
reciprical market for other segments of the economy.
When wartime demands for raw materials resulted in prices at par with the other segments of the
economy, millions of farm families spent their increased income for other goods and services,
resulting in a thriving economy.
Usually overlooked is the fact that the raw materials of food, fiber, and fuel, come from Nature,
and Nature is not paid back. Through the exchange of goods and services, raw materials income
becomes equal to the profit of the economy as a whole.
After wartime demands for raw materials fell back, the American economy might have fallen back
into depression. But parity prices for raw materials were maintained by law for several more years,
resulting in continued prosperity until raw materials generated profits were replaced by debt
generated profits, and debts, unlike Nature, have to be paid back.
For many decades now American prosperity has relied on debt generation, which, because it has
to be paid back, can only be maintained by periodic bleeding off of debt through bankruptcies.
Unfortunately, due to the abandonment of parity prices for raw materials and the firm
establishment of debt economics, American farm families have been reduced to a hundred
thousand or so, so they are no longer the great reciprocal market for the other segments of the
economy that they once were.
Americans, living in our city culture on the brink of divine judgments, have forgotten the source
of wealth and prosperity.
I have in my possession a letter written 1852, in Oskaloosa, Iowa, by a man named Rynearson. He
understood the source of wealth and prosperity:
"Since I left old Fulton [Illinois] I have been tramping about the country considerable I have found
the health good with promising crops which bid fair to yield an abundant reward to the hand of
industry and fill the farmers barns and merchants pockets, for you know that it is from the soil that
all our wealth must flow."
June 3, 1995
The Fall of Arrogance
"And it shall come to pass that the lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men
shall be bowed down, and the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day. For the day of the Lord of
hosts soon cometh upon all nations; yea, upon every one; yea, upon the proud and lofty, and upon
every one who is lifted up; and he shall be brought low" (from Isaiah 2 as quoted in 2 Nephi 8:27-28).
The Confrontation with Christ will humble the religious realm, financial collapse will humble the
economic realm, and in certain chosen areas the will of the people will humble the political realm.
The kingdom of God will be built on humility, while the kingdom of Satan will be built on arrogance.
Arrogance itself will fall. Concerning building up God's kingdom, it is written: "No one can assist in
this work, except he shall be humble and full of love, having faith, hope, and charity, being temperate
in all things whatsoever shall be intrusted to his care" (Doctrine and Covenants 11:4). Evil must be
overcome with good. Deceptions must not be exposed by deceptions. "Woe be unto him that lieth
to deceive, because he supposeth that another lieth to deceive, for such are not exempt from the
justice of God" (Doctrine and Covenants 3:4).
Although leaving vengeance to the Lord is always considered wise, it is especially stupid and
foolish to take matters into one's hands when the day of the Lord's judgments is about to begin. On
the other hand, if we are humble and believe the Confrontation is at hand, we can show defiance in
a peaceful way to those whose arrogance is about to fall.
June 4, 1995
The Burden of Forgiveness
There seems to be at least two kinds of forgiveness, when faults are admitted and when they are
not. Complicating the picture are deceptions, ignorance, and apathy. In matters of law there is
usually a burden of proof. Although forgiveness may involve a release from legal obligations, the
burden is a spiritual one, and only God can always know where the burden is, whether in asking for
forgiveness or in granting it, or whether both in each is required. If one senses that the burden is
with others and those others refuse to admit that any acknowledgement of wrongdoing is necessary,
one is in an unfortunate situation.
In cases of arrogance by elite leaders in the cultural, economic, or political realms, those hurt by
them usually have no recourse when their complaints are treated with contempt. The prospect of a
divine Confrontation in this life could force many issues to be resolved, which would then make it
obvious where the burden of forgiveness is. Otherwise, we all crash into the spiritual world
unforgiven or unforgiving because of the complications of deceptions, ignorance, or apathy. The
burden is then on God to sort it all out so that we can see what we should have done, but then it is
too late, so the burden of forgiveness, in sorting it all out, would be part of God's judgment of us.
The complications referred to are especially prevalent in our age, so it is no coincidence that our
age should get God crashing into our arrogant world. Otherwise, God would have to sort out what
He would rather have us sort out before His judgment of us.
Furthermore, the shock of a Confrontation would leave those who experience it with burdens to do
many things that will become a burden to the arrogant. Many issues will be forced to a consensus
and a conclusion as a result. Forgiveness has always been difficult. In this cold-hearted age
dominated by arrogant leadership, major forgiveness preceded by major repentance is practically
impossible. Therefore, since with God all things are possible, Christ will be with us, to make both
repentance and forgiveness possible again.
June 4, 1995
Approaching the Limits of Atonement?
When the great plan of salvation was conceived by God, the atonement of Christ was already
known to be necessary to the plan. However, since the atonement would cover the sins known to
have been committed prior to that event, and also the sins to be committed after that event, there
existed the possibility that in the latter days sins would become so rampant that they could
exceed the amount atoned for, and then Christ could not time-travel back to put an extra shot of
spiritual suffering in to cover the excess. I am only writing plainly, not wishing to make light of the
only source of salvation. The point I am making is that just as the Atonement was planned from the
beginning, the Confrontation prior to the second coming of Christ was also planned. Reference to
the Confrontation in Isaiah and Malachi is evidence of this ...
The scriptures, especially The Book of Mormon, speak of God's judgments being held back until a
"fullness" of sins occurs. Then, as my book has suggested, judgments will begin with Christ's
church. As I view it there will be an actual manifestation or several manifestations of Christ, which
I call the Confrontation, which begins the cleansing process. After that, sins will still be committed,
but the cleansing process will be set in motion that will never allow the collective sins of God's
people to outstrip the power of the Atonement of Christ.
In all ages individuals have been free to rebel against God so far as to condemn themselves from
participation in the Beloved Community that was God's plan from the beginning. Their fate I do not
know. But this much I do know. The collective race of humanity has been saved for the purpose of
its creation by the Atonement of Christ at one point in human history, and the Atonement of Christ
cannot be repeated. The philosopher Josiah Royce, in his The Problem of Christianity
(1913), suggests that in addition to the one-time Atonement of Christ there can be atoning events
created by the Beloved Community for its own traitors. Our present problem is that we don't really
know who our traitors are, although we have a lot of different theories on that question. I do not
trust arrogant leaders to tell us who our traitors are.
I may be judged as imbalanced to look for my imagined Confrontation, but the prophecies lose
their meaning without it, in my opinion. The Lord shall suddenly come to His temple, and without
first asking church leaders if that would be okay with them! That doesn't sound very polite, does
it? But then is it very polite to forget the Lord's commandments and run the church in ways that
are pleasing to the unrepentant elite? Is it very polite to God and His church to sell off institutions
established by revelation and common consent, without revelation and without common consent?
How dare church leaders consider themselves owners of all church properties! How dare they think
that they alone know what is good for the church to do and view the membership as their servants
they can call upon to finance and carry out their elite agendas!
June 4, 1995
In the following references, RLDS was an abbreviation for Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter Day Saints, which in 2001 shortened its name to Community of Christ.
In my last note I referred to the "fullness" of sins. Here are the exact quotes on that.
RLDS 2 Nephi 12:20 "For the day shall come that the Lord God will speedily visit the
inhabitants of the earth; and in that day that they are fully ripe in iniquity, they shall perish."
RLDS Alma 21:17 "Cursed shall be the land, yea, this land, unto every nation, kindred, tongue,
and people, unto destruction, which do wickedly, when they are fully ripe."
RLDS Ether 1:32-33 "And the fullness of his wrath cometh upon them when they are ripened
in iniquity ... And it is not until the fullness of iniquity among the children of the land, that they are
I also suggested that Christ would intervene if our sins exceeded those He atoned for, or when
the two equalled each other. An outrageous theory! However, consider these quotes.
RLDS 2 Nephi 7:22 "For this cause, that my covenants may be fulfilled, which I have made
unto the children of men, that I will do unto them while they are in the flesh, I must needs destroy
the secret works of darkness, and of murders, and of abominations."
RLDS 3 Nephi 9:106 "At that day, whosoever will not repent and come unto my beloved Son,
them will I cut off from among my people, O house of Israel, and I will execute vengeance and fury
upon them, even as upon the heathen, such as they have not heard."
PROPHECY CHART drawn up in 1995 based on scriptural research done in 1994
I would now move Ezekiel 38 - 39, Zecharaiah 14:12-13, and Doctrine and Covenants 28:5 to the period of Third
Woe. See chapter 13 of Mideast Beast by Joel Richardson.
Interpreters of "Bible prophecy" generally claim to predict events from coordinations of scattered
prophecies, but in almost every case the coordinating ideas are not taught by the Bible itself. Even
the few who let the prophecies build on themselves must throw in more speculations than they would
want to. Working from the advantage of the fuller prophetic teachings in the scriptures of the
Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (since 2001, Community of Christ), I have
put together a fragmentary, yet suggestive, chart, without need for ideas outside this expanded
canon of scriptures. If the general pattern of fulfillment set forth begins to unfold as suggested, that
would be evidence that the contribution of The Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants to
understanding Bible prophecies is genuine, and not the side show that most would want it to be.
In these notes, I avoided being influenced by ideas outside the Community of Christ canon of scriptures. Here
is how I dealt with a prophecy that was added to the LDS canon, but not to the Community of Christ canon.
21 extracts from 1996 notes on prophecies
January 6, 1996
"Ye are not able to abide the presence of God now, neither [not even] the ministering of angels"
(Doctrine and Covenants 67:3c). This is why I think there will be an increase in angelic ministry
prior to the manifestation of Christ.
January 8, 1996
2 Nephi 11:12-14 declares that Isaiah's very difficult prophecies shall be understood: "In the days
that the prophecies of Isaiah shall be fulfilled, men shall know of a surety, at the times when they
shall come to pass ... I know that they shall be of great worth unto them in the last days; for in that
day they shall understand them."
January 13, 1996
In the process of surveying prophecies mentioning "whirlwind" I discovered a difficult,
yet interesting quote at Zechariah 9:14: "And the Lord shall be seen over them, and his arrow
shall go forth as the lightning; and the Lord God shall blow the trumpet, and shall go with
whirlwinds of the south." I don't understand this, but those words "And the Lord shall be seen
over them" are too interesting to forget. The Ferrar Fenton translation has: "Then the Lord will
appear above all." The New International Version has: "Then the Lord will appear over them."
The Jewish Publication Society's 1985 translation has: "And the Lord will manifest Himself to
January 20, 1996
I went to a theological library to read commentaries on Zechariah 9:14, but found nothing to
support or refute what I think it means: the Christ shall manifest himself in an open, outdoor way,
similar to the way he appeared to "a great multitude gathered together ... round about the temple
which was in the land Bountiful" (3 Nephi 5:1). On that occasion "they cast their eyes up again
towards heaven, and behold, they saw a man descending out of heaven, and he was clothed in
a white robe ..." 3 Nephi 5:9-10). I don't think that appearance fulfilled Zechariah 9:14, which I
think will be fulfilled at the same time that Isaiah 52:10 and Malachi 3:1-2 are fulfilled, these
being other prophetic descriptions of the same event.
February 17, 1996
"The Lord hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth
shall see the salvation of our God" (Isaiah 52:10).
I would suggest that the phrase "eyes of all the nations" refers to those who are awake to the
gospel and can see the kingdom of God coming to Earth. It is to them Christ shall reveal himself.
Yet since it will apparently be in an outdoor, open way, anyone else in the vicinity should be able
to witness it, even if they don't understand the significance of what is happening.
April 26, 1996
The Prophetic Sequence in the Book of Revelation
There is nothing in the Book of Revelation to indicate that its author arranged the text to match
the chronological sequence of the fulfillment of his prophetic visions. He merely testifies of what
he saw and heard in the order he saw and heard.
The Book of Revelation's core sequence of events is the fifth, sixth, and seventh trumpets, which
are called three woes. After telling of the first woe, John writes: "One woe is past; and behold,
there come two woes more hereafter." After telling of the second woe, John writes: "The second
woe is past; and behold, the third woe cometh quickly."
Thus, we immediately start our study of prophetic sequence with a five-part sequence:
1. whatever comes before the first woe
2. the first woe (fifth trumpet)
3. the second woe (sixth trumpet)
4. the third woe (seventh trumpet)
5. whatever comes after the third woe
Everything in the Book of Revelation has to fit somewhere in this five-part sequence. In
"whatever comes before the first woe" would obviously be the first four trumpets. In "whatever
comes after the third woe" would obviously be the millennial reign of Christ, the little season, the
final judgment, and the glories of eternity.
The first woe described in Revelation 9:1-11 does not harm plants, but torments humans without
killing them. The second woe described in Revelation 9:13 - 11:13 is a period of time in which
several things are described going on, the most astonishing of which is that one third of the
humans are killed. In other words, a world war is being fought. The third woe is only briefly
mentioned in Revelation 11:15-19. But the key event of the third woe is summarized: "The
kingdoms of this world are become the kingdom of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall
reign forever and ever."
So the fall of Babylon has to occur during the third woe or sometime before it. The means by
which Babylon falls is revealed in Revelation 17:16-18: "And the ten horns which thou sawest
upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall
eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. For God hath put in their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree,
and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. And the woman which
thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth." Since to "burn her with
fire" suggests to me a world war, which I think occurs during the second woe, I think the fall of
Babylon the Great occurs during the second woe, with the third woe being the divine destruction
of the kingdom of the beast (the seven vials).
In Revelation chapter 14 we have a sequence of three angels making announcements. Since the
second of the three angels announces the fall of Babylon, which I think occurs during the second
woe, perhaps the sequence of angel announcements actually corresponds to the periods of the
three woes. We already know that the kingdom of the beast causes the fall of Babylon. Is it is
just coincidence that the third angel of Revelation 14 announces a curse on those who worship
the beast? The only strange correspondence between the three angels and the three woes is
that the first angel announces the hour of God's judgments has come, whereas the first woe
describes a mysterious non-killing torment of people who don't have the seal of God in their
foreheads. On the other hand, perhaps the first woe is the time when God's judgment has come
in the manner described in the first woe. Notice that people are not killed. But in the second woe
one third of human population is destroyed! What a contrast! Isn't it the same contrast as that
between how God deals with people and how people deal with people? There are thousands
of elite humans who think they need to take steps to control and reduce the human population.
There are hundreds of elite humans who would rejoice to see the destruction of a third of the
human population (as long as they are not among those destroyed).
April 29, 1996
A Further Note on Prophetic Sequence
In my 1995 journal's prophecy chart I indicated that Revelation 9:13 - 11:13 would fall into the
period of the second woe. After further study, it now appears that Revelation 9:13-21 is the
second woe, chapter 10 the transition to the third woe, and chapter 11 is into the period of the
third woe, even though 11:14 states: "The second woe is past; and there is a third woe soon to
follow." Notice 10:7 in Helen Montgomery's translation: "in the days of the voice of the seventh
angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet ..." This would indicate a two-part period, first of
the voice, then of the trumpet. Also notice the correspondency between 11:6: "and have
power over waters to turn them to blood" and 16:3: "the second angel poured out his bowl upon
the sea; and it became blood" and 16:4: "the third poured out his bowl into the rivers and springs
of waters; and they were turned into blood." Also there is the link between the "seven thunders"
of 10:3-4 and Doctrine and Covenants 43:5: "the thunders shall utter their voices from the ends
of the earth, speaking to the ears of all that live, saying, Repent and prepare yourselves for the
great day of the Lord." Finally, there is the resurrection of the two witnesses in 11:7-12, which
seems premature if the third woe has not even begun yet. So it looks like World War III
(Revelation 9:13-21) is the second woe. This is followed by the voice of the period of the third
woe, with the trumpet of the same period announcing the third woe itself, the destruction of the
wicked by Christ. The voice portion would apparently include the preaching of the two
witnesses and the first six vials or bowls of divine wrath, with the seventh bowl, the seventh
trumpet, the resurrection of the two witnesses, and the return of Christ to defeat the armies of
the beast constituting the third woe, the destruction of the wicked which is the end of the world
and the beginning of the reign of Christ.
22 Joseph Smith's revision of Revelation 1:1-8
|King James Version
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave unto
him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly
come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel
unto his servant John,
|1 The Revelation of John, a servant of God, which|
was given unto him of Jesus Christ, to show unto his
servants things which must shortly come to pass, that
he sent and signified by his angel unto his servant John,
2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the
testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
|2 Who bore record of the word of God, and of the|
testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the
words of this prophecy, and keep those things which
are written therein: for the time is at hand.
|3 Blessed are they who read, and they who hear and|
understand the words of this prophecy, and keep
those things which are written therein, for the time of
the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.
4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia:
Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and
which was, and which is to come; and from the seven
Spirits which are before his throne;
|4 Now this is the testimony of John to the seven|
servants who are over the seven churches in Asia.
Grace unto you, and peace from him who is, and
who was, and who is to come; who hath sent forth
his angel from before his throne, to testify unto those
who are the seven servants over the seven churches.
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness,
and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of
the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and
washed us from our sins in his own blood,
|5 Therefore, I, John, the faithful witness, bear|
record of the things which were delivered me of
the angel, and from Jesus Christ the first begotten of
the dead, and the Prince of the kings of the earth.
6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and
his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and
|6 And unto him who loved us, be glory; who washed|
us from our sins in his own blood, and hath made us
kings and priests unto God, his Father. To him be glory
and dominion, for ever and ever. Amen.
7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall
see him, and they also which pierced him: and all
kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even
|7 For behold, he cometh in the clouds with ten|
thousands of his saints in the kingdom, clothed with
the glory of his Father. And every eye shall see him;
and they who pierced him, and all the kindreds of the
earth shall wail because of him. Even so. Amen.
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the
ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and
which is to come, the Almighty.
|8 For he saith, I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning|
and the ending, the Lord, who is, and who was, and
who is to come, the Almighty.
Revelation 1:1-8 is the introduction to the book, verses 1-3 by the presidency of the church (after the|
messages in 1:9 - 3:22 had proven to be on target), verses 4-8 by John himself.
Joseph Smith's revisions in verses 3 and 7 focus attention on the second coming of Christ. The verse 7
revision makes a connection with the General Epistle of Jude: "And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam,
prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousand of his saints, to execute judgment
upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly
committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him."
23 Revelation 12:7-12 and 8:7-13
1924 translation by Helen Barrett Montgomery
And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels went forth to war with the dragon; and the
dragon also fought, and his angels; but they failed, nor was their place found any more in heaven.
Now the great dragon was thrown down—that old Serpent, he who is called the devil and Satan, the
deceiver of the whole world. He was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down
with him. And I heard a great voice in heaven, which said:
"Now it is come! the salvation and the power,
The kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ!
For the accuser of our brethren is thrown down,
Who accused them before our God, day and night.
And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb,
And by the word of their testimony;
And they loved not their life, even unto death.
Therefore rejoice, O heavens,
And you who dwell therein!
Woe to the earth and the sea!
For the devil has gone down to you in great fury,
Because he knows that he has but little time."
commentary by John McDonnell
The time for the fulfillment of this prophecy is indicated in two ways: (1) "he has but little time"
means Satan would be expelled from Heaven shortly before he would be bound for a thousand
years (Revelation 20:1-3); (2) Satan's assault on "the earth and the sea" might be linked to
ecological destruction during and following World War II (Revelation 8:7-13). However, "the earth
and the sea" could be symbolic of mankind, "the earth" being the wealthy, "the sea" being the poor.
1924 translation by Helen Barrett Montgomery
And the first angel blew his trumpet, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and it
fell upon the earth; and the third part of the earth was burned up, and the third part of the trees,
and all the green grass. And the second angel blew his trumpet, and something like a great
mountain burning with fire was hurled into the sea; and a third part of the sea became blood; and
a third part of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third part of the ships were destroyed.
And the third angel blew his trumpet, and there fell from heaven a great star, blazing like a torch.
It fell upon a third of the rivers and upon the springs. (The name of the star is called Wormwood.)
A third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they
were made bitter. And the fourth angel blew his trumpet, and the third part of the sun was
blasted, and a third part of the moon, and a third part of the stars; so that the third part of them
should be darkened, and for a third part of the day there was no light, and at night it was the
same. And I looked and I heard a solitary eagle flying in mid-heaven, and crying with a loud
voice, "Woe, woe woe for all who live on the earth, because of the rest of the trumpet-blasts
that the three angels are about to blow!"
commentary by John McDonnell
Did the first four trumpets foretell the weather modification experiments and the chemical,
nuclear, and air pollution during and following World War II (1939-1945)? Notice that the light
of the sun, moon, and stars are equally diminished, indicating something about the atmosphere
through which they shine. However, these may be symbolic of the spiritual qualities of people,
"the sun" being the highest level of spiritual stature, "the moon" being the next, and "the stars"
being a third, all three levels being equally diminished in quality. In 1969 astronauts from planet
Earth went to the Moon and looked back at our Earth. "Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and
look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall
wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my salvation
shall be forever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished" (Isaiah 51:6). Was the cry of the
endangered eagle heard in the souls of those who strove to stop chemical pollution? If so, then
thanks to their efforts, there were announcements in the 1990s that eagles were again multiplying
and were no longer considered to be an endangered species. However, many who hate freedom
have used ecological concerns as a mere front for an agenda of increasing the size and scope
"angel" or "eagle" ?
Revelation 8:13, King James Version
||Revelation 8:13, Helen Montgomery's translation|
|And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through
the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice,
Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabitants of the earth
by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of
the three angels, which are yet to sound!
|And I looked and I heard a solitary eagle flying in|
mid-heaven, and crying with a loud voice, "Woe,
woe, woe for all who live on the earth, because of
the rest of the trumpet-blasts that the three angels
are about to blow!"
commentary on Revelation 8:13 by Joseph A. Seiss
from The Apocalypse: Lectures on the Book of Revelation, page 200
Our English version describes this proclamation as made by an angel. This is admitted to be
an erroneous reading. It is not sustained by the best and oldest manuscripts. The Codex
Sinaiticus, the Codex Alexandrinus, and the Codex Vaticanus, the very best and most reliable
authorities on the true reading of the New Testament, have eagle instead of angel. The
Syriac has eagle. Griesbach, Scholz, Lachman, Van Ess, Hengstengberg, Stuart, Tischendorf,
Tregelles, Wordsworth, Ewald, Alford, and the best critics in general, accept eagle as the
proper and original reading. Bengel, a century and a half ago, wrote "the Italian version,
and other most ancient authorities, widely separated from each other in age and clime, and
in very great numbers, clearly vindicate the reading of eagle from all suspicion of gloss."
24 Revelation 14 and Doctrine and Covenants 85:31-33
||Revelation 14:6-11 KJV
||Revelation 14:12-20 KJV
|| Doctrine and Covenants 85:31-33|
|6 And I saw another angel fly
in the midst of heaven, having
the everlasting gospel to
preach unto them that dwell
on the earth, and to every
nation, and kindred, and
tongue, and people,
7 Saying with a loud voice,
Fear God, and give glory to
him; for the hour of his
judgment is come; and
worship him that made
heaven, and earth, and the
sea, and the fountains of
|12 Here is the patience of the
saints; here are they that keep
the commandments of God,
and the faith of Jesus.
13 And I heard a voice from
heaven saying unto me, Write,
Blessed are the dead which
die in the Lord from
henceforth; Yea, saith the
Spirit, that they may rest from
their labors; and their works
do follow them.
|31 And another trump shall sound,
which is the fifth trump, which is
the fifth angel who committeth the
everlasting gospel, flying through
the midst of heaven, unto all
nations, kindreds, tongues, and
people; and this shall be the sound
of his trump, saying to all people,
both in heaven and in earth, and
that are under the earth; for every
ear shall hear it, and every knee
shall bow, and every tongue shall
confess, while they hear the sound
of the trump, saying, Fear God,
and give glory to him who sitteth
upon the throne, for ever and
ever: for the hour of his judgment
|8 And there followed another
angel, saying, Babylon is
fallen, is fallen, that great
city, because she made all
nations drink of the wine of
the wrath of her fornication.
|14 And I looked, and behold
a white cloud, and upon the
cloud one sat like unto the Son
of man, having on his head a
golden crown, and in his hand
a sharp sickle.
15 And another angel came
out of the temple, crying with
a loud voice to him that sat
on the cloud, Thrust in thy
sickle, and reap; for the time
is come for thee to reap; for
the harvest of the earth is ripe.
16 And he that sat on the
cloud thrust in his sickle on
the earth; and the earth was
|32 And again, another angel shall
sound his trump, which is the sixth
angel, saying, She is fallen, who
made all nations drink of the wine
of the wrath of her fornication:
she is fallen! is fallen!
|9 And the third angel
followed them, saying with
a loud voice, If any man
worship the beast and his
image, and receive his mark
in his forehead or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of
the wine of the wrath of God,
which is poured out without
mixture into the cup of his
indignation; and he shall be
tormented with fire and
brimstone in the presence of
the holy angels, and in the
presence of the Lamb;
11 And the smoke of their
torment ascendeth up forever
and ever; and they have no
rest day nor night, who
worship the beast and his
image, and whosoever
receiveth the mark of his
|17 And another angel came
out of the temple which is in
heaven, he also having a sharp
18 And another angel came
out from the altar, which had
power over fire; and cried with
a loud cry to him that had the
sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in
thy sharp sickle, and gather
the clusters of the vine of the
earth; for her grapes are fully
19 And the angel thrust in his
sickle into the earth, and
gathered the vine of the earth,
and cast it into the great
winepress of the wrath of God.
20 And the winepress was
trodden without the city, and
blood came out of the
winepress, even unto the
horses' bridles, by the space
of a thousand and six hundred
|33 And again, another angel shall
sound his trump, which is the
seventh angel, saying: It is
finished! it is finished! the Lamb
of God hath overcome, and
trodden the winepress alone;
even the winepress of the
fierceness of the wrath of
The correspondencies between Revelation 14 and Doctrine and Covenants 85:31-33 seemed chaotic
to me until I lined up their predictions in the periods of the three woes (Revelation 8:13), which are the
periods of the fifth, sixth, and seventh trumpets.
25 the parable of the ten virgins
|Matthew 25:1-12, Inspired Version
||Doctrine and Covenants 45:10b-d|
1 And then, at that day, before the Son of man
comes, the kingdom of heaven shall be
likened unto ten virgins, who took their lamps,
and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2 And five of them were wise, and five of them
3 They that were foolish took their lamps and
took no oil with them; but the wise took oil in
their vessels with their lamps.
4 While the bridegroom tarried, they all
slumbered and slept.
5 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold,
the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
6 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed
7 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of
your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
8 But the wise answered, saying, Lest there
be not enough for us and you, go ye rather to
them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
9 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom
came; and they that were ready went in with
him to the marriage; and the door was shut.
10 Afterward came also the other virgins,
saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us.
11 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto
you, Ye know me not.
12 Watch therefore; for ye know neither the day
nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
|And at that day when I shall come|
in my glory, shall the parable be
fulfilled which I spake concerning
the ten virgins; for they that are
wise and have received the truth,
and have taken the Holy Spirit for
their guide, and have not been
deceived, verily I say unto you,
They shall not be hewn down and
cast into the fire, but shall
abide the day, and the earth shall
be given unto them for an
inheritance; and they shall
multiply and wax strong, and their
children shall grow up without sin
unto salvation, for the Lord shall
be in their midst, and his glory
shall be upon them, and he will be
their King and their lawgiver.
... in a time to come, even in
the day of the coming of the Son
of man, and until that hour, there
will be foolish virgins among the
wise, and at that hour cometh an
entire separation of the righteous
and the wicked; and in that day
will I send mine angels, to pluck
out the wicked, and cast them into
Perhaps the best commentary on this is Hebrews 9:26-28. I quote from Ferrar Fenton's 1905 translation:
"But now once for all, at the consummation of the ages, He has been manifested to abolish sin through
the sacrifice of Himself. And inasmuch as it is appointed to men to die once, but after that a judgment:
thus also Messiah, having offered Himself once to take away sins from the many, will manifest Himself
a second time, apart from sins, for the salvation of those expecting Him."
26 Zion before the Millennium
There are at least five scriptural passages that I interpret as teaching that a nearly ideal society
will be established prior to the coming of Christ to reign on Earth for a thousand years.
The Book of Mormon 1 Nephi 3:230-231
And it came to pass that I, Nephi, beheld the power of the Lamb of God, that it descended
upon the saints of the church of the Lamb, and upon the covenant people of the Lord, who were
scattered upon all the face of the earth; and they were armed with righteousness and with the
power of God in great glory.
Doctrine and Covenants 36:12f-g
... and righteousness and truth will I cause to sweep the earth as with a flood, to gather out my
own elect from the four quarters of the earth unto a place which I shall prepare; a holy city, that my
people may gird up their loins, and be looking forth for the time of my coming; for there shall be my
tabernacle, and it shall be called Zion, a New Jerusalem.
Doctrine and Covenants 45:12c-d
... purchase an inheritance which shall hereafter be appointed unto you, and it shall be called
the New Jerusalem, a land of peace, a city of refuge, a place of safety for the saints of the most
high God; and the glory of the Lord shall be there, and the terror of the Lord also shall be there,
insomuch that the wicked will not come unto it; and it shall be called Zion.
Doctrine and Covenants 49:5a-b
But before the great day of the Lord shall come, Jacob shall flourish in the wilderness; and the
Lamanites shall blossom as the rose. Zion shall flourish upon the hills, and rejoice upon the
mountains, and shall be assembled together unto the place which I have appointed.
Doctrine and Covenants 65:1d-f
... call upon the Lord, that his kingdom may go forth upon the earth; that the inhabitants thereof
may receive it, and be prepared for the days to come, in the which the Son of man shall come
down in heaven, clothed in the brightness of his glory, to meet the kingdom of God which is set up
on the earth; wherefore, may the kingdom of God go forth, that the kingdom of heaven may come,
that thou, O God, may be glorified in heaven, so on earth, that thy enemies may be subdued; for
thine is the honor, power, and glory, for ever and ever. Amen.
The Constitution of the United States of America is already the political foundation of Zion, but
America's corrupt government must be reduced to its Constitutional limits. "And now, verily I say unto
you, concerning the laws of the land, It is my will that my people should observe to do all things
whatsoever I command them, and that law of the land, which is constitutional, supporting that principle
of freedom, in maintaining rights and privileges belongs to all mankind and is justifiable before me;
therefore, I, the Lord, justify you and your brethren of my church in befriending that law which is the
constitutional law of the land; and as pertaining to law of man, whatsoever is more or less than these,
cometh of evil" (Doctrine and Covenants 95:2a-b). "And again I say unto you, Those who have been
scattered by their enemies, it is my will that they should continue to importune for redress, and
redemption, by the hands of those who are placed as rulers, and are in authority over you, according
to the laws and constitution of the people which I have suffered to be established, and should be
maintained for the rights and protection of all flesh, according to just and holy principles, that every
man may act in doctrine, and principle pertaining to futurity, according to the moral agency which I have
given unto them, that every man may be accountable for his own sins in the day of judgment. Therefore,
it is not right that any man should be in bondage one to another. And for this purpose have I established
the constitution of this land, by the hands of wise men whom I raised up unto this very purpose, and
redeemed the land by the shedding of blood" (Doctrine and Covenants 98:10d-h).
27 conditions during the Millennium
Isaiah 11:6-9 as quoted and commented on in The Book of Mormon 2 Nephi 12:92-99|
And then shall the wolf dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf, and
the young lion, and the fatling, together; and a little child shall lead them. And the cow and the bear shall
feed; their young ones shall lie down together, and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. And the sucking
child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice's den.
They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of
the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.
Wherefore, the things of all nations shall be made known: yea, all things shall be made known unto the
children of men. There is nothing which is secret, save it shall be revealed; there is no work of
darkness, save it shall be made manifest in the light; and there is nothing which is sealed upon the
earth, save it shall be loosed. Wherefore, all things which have been revealed unto the children of men,
shall at that day be revealed; and Satan shall have power over the hearts of the children of men no
more, for a long time.
Revelation 20:1-6, Helen Montgomery's 1924 translation|
And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, with the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in
his hand. He gripped the dragon, that old serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a
thousand years, and flung him into the bottomless pit, and shut and sealed it over him, so that he
should seduce the nations no more, until the thousand years were completed. After that it is necessary
to loose him for a little while. And I saw thrones, and those who sat on them, and they were permitted
to judge; and I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimomy of Jesus, and for the
Word of God, those who did not worship the beast nor his image, and who did not receive his brand
upon their brow, or hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the
dead did not live until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and
holy is he who has a part in the first resurrection; on such the second death has no power, but they will
be God's priests, and Christ's; and will reign with him for a thousand years.
Doctrine and Covenants 98:5b-g|
All things shall become new, that my knowledge and glory may dwell upon all the earth. And in that day
the enmity of man, and the enmity of beasts; yea, the enmity of all flesh shall cease from before my
face. And in that day whatsoever any man shall ask it shall be given unto him. And in that day Satan
shall not have power to tempt any man. And there shall be no sorrow because there is no death. In
that day an infant shall not die until he is old, and his life shall be as the age of a tree, and when he
dies he shall not sleep (that is to say in the earth), but shall be changed in the twinkling of an eye,
and shall be caught up, and his rest shall be glorious. Yea, verily I say unto you, In that day when the
Lord shall come he shall reveal all things; things which have passed, and hidden things which no
man knew; things of the earth by which it was made, and the purpose and the end thereof; things
most precious; things that are above, and things that are beneath; things that are in the earth, and
upon the earth, and in heaven.
Zephaniah 3:9, King James Version|
For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the Lord, to
serve him with one consent.
dispensations, languages, and records
The earliest dispensations of the gospel had the advantage of one language over all the earth. After
the confusion of tongues, the work of proclaiming the gospel became more difficult. Full advantage has
been taken of any approximation of an international language. During the somewhat brief Greek
Empire, the Greek language was taught throughout the empire so successfully that when the Roman
Empire took over things Greek remained the closest thing to an international language. The great
majority of early New Testament manuscripts and books are in Greek, showing that the First Century
dispensation took advantage of the situation.
During the rise of the last dispensation of the gospel, the British empire developed an English-speaking
commonwealth of nations, making a strong bid for establishing English as an international language. So
it is no surprise that the translations and revelations for this dispensation of the gospel have been in
English, which due to the rise of the United States as a world power and influence, is now the closest
thing we have to an international language. We tend to assume that the other records mentioned in The
Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants will also be first translated into English when they are
revealed, and maybe some of them will be. But there is that prophecy that the Lord will turn to the
people a new language for the Millennium so that all nations shall serve Him with one consent. And
since the Millennium is the time when all things shall be revealed, it would make sense that the first
revealment of many records would be into the new truly international language.
Before the Millennium begins, Zion must be established and people out of all nations must be gathered
into it. Obviously some sort of international language would be necessary for Zion to function, and that
language would have to be English. During the brief Zion period as a preparation for the full
Millennium, I am expecting records to be revealed. Perhaps some will be first presented in English.
ut at some point a transition needs to be made. Perhaps near the end of the Zion period some
extremely important record will be revealed in the new language for the Millennium, so that to read the
record one must learn the new international language.
One of the strangest verses in the Bible has to be Genesis 10:25: "And unto Eber were born two
sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was
Joktan." How was the earth divided? By political territories only? Or in some physical way? It would
be strange that the cataclysmic breaking up of one land mass into separate continents should be
summarized in one phrase!
After The Book of Mormon was published, Joseph Smith Jr. began working on a revision of the Bible.
Although not published in Joseph Smith Jr.'s lifetime, the manuscripts for it were preserved by his
widow Emma Smith, who eventually gave them to the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter
Day Saints, whose president at the time was her son Joseph Smith III. In 1867 the revision was
published by the RLDS as The Holy Scriptures. In The Holy Scriptures there is an addition to the
book of Genesis that suggests that the earth had been divided in a physical way in response to an
act of faith (emphasis mine): "For God having sworn unto Enoch and unto his seed with an oath to
himself; that every one being ordained after this order and calling should have power, by faith, to
break mountains, to divide the seas, to dry up waters, to turn them out of their course; to put at
defiance the armies of the nations, to divide the earth, to break every band, to stand in the presence
of God; to do all things according to his will, according to his command, subdue principalities and
powers; and this by the will of the Son of God which was from before the foundation of the world"
(Genesis 14:30-31). The context suggests that the earth could be divided into separate continents
as an act of faith in response to the will of God. The suggestion is that Peleg, or someone in Peleg's
time, may have exercised this kind of faith in a way that resulted in one land mass splitting into
The Book of Mormon suggests one of the divine purposes in dividing the earth into continents:
"And behold, it is wisdom that this land should be kept as yet from the knowledge of other nations;
for behold, many nations would overrun the land, that there would be no place for an inheritance"
(2 Nephi 1:16-17).
In 1831 Joseph Smith Jr. presented a revelation predicting that the separate continents will
eventually become one land mass again (emphasis mine): "Prepare ye for the coming of the
Bridegroom: go ye, go ye out to meet him, for, behold, he shall stand upon the Mount of Olives, and
upon the mighty ocean, even the great deep, and upon the islands of the sea, and upon the land of
Zion; and he shall utter his voice out of Zion, and he shall speak from Jerusalem, and his voice
shall be heard among all people, and it shall be a voice as the voice of waters, and as the voice
of a great thunder, which shall break down the mountains, and the valleys shall not be found; he
shall command the great deep and it shall be driven back into the north countries, and the islands
shall become one land, and the land of Jerusalem and the land of Zion shall be turned back into their
own place, and the earth shall be like it was in the days before it was divided. And the Lord even
the Savior shall stand in the midst of his people, and shall reign over all flesh" (Doctrine and
Only in recent times have scientists understood that Earth has tectonic plates that can move and
indeed have moved and can move again.
28 Zion out of all of God's creations
Doctrine and Covenants 22:21|
And the Lord God said unto Moses, For mine own purposes have I made these things. Here is wisdom, and
it remaineth in me. And by the word of my power have I created them, which is mine Only Begotten Son, who
is full of grace and truth. And worlds without number have I created, and I also created them for mine own
purpose; and by the Son I created them, which is mine Only Begotten. And the first man of all men have I
called Adam, which is many. But only an account of this earth, and the inhabitants thereof, give I unto you;
for behold there are many worlds which have passed away by the word of my power; and there are many
also which now stand, and numberless are they unto man; but all things are numbered unto me; for they are
mine, and I know them.
Doctrine and Covenants 36:12-13|
And Enoch beheld the Son of man ascend up unto the Father; and he called unto the Lord, saying, Will you
not come again upon the earth, for inasmuch as you are God, and I know you, and you have sworn unto me,
and commanded me that I should ask in the name of your Only Begotten, you have made me, and given unto
me a right to your throne, and not of myself, but through your own grace; wherefore I ask you if you will not
come again upon the earth? And the Lord said unto Enoch, As I live, even so will I come in the last days—in
the days of wickedness and vengeance, to fulfill the oath which I made unto you, concerning the children of
Noah; and the day shall come that the earth shall rest, but before that day, shall the heavens be darkened,
and a veil of darkness shall cover the earth; and the heavens shall shake, and also the earth; and great
tribulations shall be among the children of men, but my people will I preserve; and righteousness will I send
down out of heaven; and truth will I send forth out of the earth, to bear testimony of my Only Begotten; his
resurrection from the dead; yea, and also the resurrection of all men; and righteousness and truth will I cause
to sweep the earth as with a flood, to gather out my own elect from the four quarters of the earth unto a place
which I shall prepare; a holy city, that my people may gird up their loins, and be looking forth for the time of
my coming; for there shall be my tabernacle, and it shall be called Zion, a New Jerusalem. And the Lord said
unto Enoch, Then shall you and all your city meet them there, and we will receive them unto our bosom, and
they shall see us, and we will fall upon their necks, and they shall fall upon our necks, and we will kiss each
other, and there shall be my abode, and it shall be Zion which shall come forth out of all the creations which
I have made; and for the space of a thousand years shall the earth rest.
from "The Hermitage" by Edward Rowland Sill|
However small the present creature man, —
Ridiculous imitation of the gods,
Weak plagiarism on some completer world, —
Yet we can boast of that strong race to be.
The savage broke the attraction which binds fast
The fibres of the oak, and we to-day
By cunning chemistry can force apart
The elements of the air. That coming race
Shall loose the bands by which the earth attracts;
A drop of occult tincture, a spring touched
Shall outwit gravitation; men shall float,
Or lift the hills and set them down where they will.
The savage crossed the lake, and we the sea.
That coming race shall have no bounds or bars,
But, like the fledgeling eaglet, leave the nest, —
Our earthly eyrie up among the stars, —
And freely soar, to tread the desolate moon,
Or mingle with the neighbor folk of Mars.
Yea, if the savage learned by sign and sound
To bridge the chasm to his fellow's brain,
Till now we flash our whispers round the globe,
That race shall signal over the abyss
To those bright souls who throng the outer courts
Of life, impatient who shall greet men first
And solve the riddles that we die to know.
"The Hermitage", written in 1866, was first published in The Hermitage and Other Poems
in 1868. The first landing of men on the Moon was in 1969. Did the quoted passage have an
influence on naming the first lunar module? "The Eagle has landed!" It seems remarkable that
the phrase "to tread the desolate moon" was written 103 years before it became a reality.
29 predicted evil leaders
These three prophetic passages seem to me to be parallel predictions whose fulfillments will occur
at the same time. Daniel 11:36-45 speaks only of a political leader, who (because of the link between
Daniel 11:36 and 2 Thessalonians 2:4) I interpret to be the Antichrist.
Revelation 13 is more detailed. Verses 1-4 speak of the organization the Antichrist will use as his
power base. Verses 5-8 describe the Antichrist himself. Verses 9-10 are a warning for saints who must
live through these times. Verses 11-12 speak of the organization the false prophet (see Revelation
19:20) will use as his power base. Verses 13-15 describe the false prophet's activities. Verses 16-18,
which may seem continuing to describe the false prophet's activities, I interpret as instead referring
to the Antichrist previously mentioned. The basis for my doing so is that verses 16-17 describe
political-economic, not religious activities, and verse 18 has been universally thought to be referring
to the Antichrist, even though it comes following mention of the false prophet. In other words, I
interpret verses 11-15 as a parenthetical passage in the midst of the description of the first beast and
The most difficult of the three passages is 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12. Yet because of the clear
delineation of the two beasts in Revelation 13, I can read in what I learn there and guess that the
"falling away" in verse 3 might tie in with the activities of the false prophet, that verses 3-4 and 8 refer
to the Antichrist, and that verses 9-12 refer to activities promoted by the false prophet.
The Book of Mormon 2 Nephi 11:28-34
"And the Lord will set his hand again the second time to restore his people from their lost and
fallen state. Wherefore, he will proceed to do a marvelous work, and a wonder among the children of
men. Wherefore, he shall bring forth his words unto them, which words shall judge them at the last
day; for they shall be given them for the purpose of convincing them of the true Messiah, who was
rejected by them; and unto the convincing of them that they need not look forward any more for a
Messiah to come, for there should not any come, save it should be a false Messiah, which should
deceive the people: for there is save one Messiah spoken of by the prophets, and that Messiah is
he who should be rejected of the Jews."
comments by John McDonnell
The New Testament, Revelation, mentions "the beast" and "the false prophet". The Book of
Mormon, 2 Nephi, mentions "a false messiah which should deceive the people". Will "a false
messiah" be the same person as "the beast" or as "the false prophet"? Or is "a false messiah" yet
a third evil leader?
The term "the Antichrist'' is an invented designation for "the beast", since in the New Testament
"antichrist" is a general term that can be used in the plural, "antichrists". Although "the beast" may
be a system of governance, Revelation also refers to "the beast" as the human leader of it.
"The beast" seems to me to be a world political leader, while "the false prophet" seems to me to
be a world religious leader who engenders support for the world political leader. So if "a false
messiah" will be one of the two, I would think he would have to be "the beast", who is called "the
Since the 2 Nephi use of "a false messiah" is, in context, related to the Jews, this suggests that
when "the beast" rises to power, he may deceive many of the Jews in Israel into thinking that he
has their best interests in mind, and he may do things for them that will deceive many into thinking
that he is their long-awaited messiah.
why humans serve Satan's desire for increasing government control
"Wherefore hear the word of the Lord, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.
Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when
the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us; for we have made lies our refuge,
and under falsehood we have hid ourselves..." (Isaiah 28:14-15).
from Josiah Royce's 1913 book The Problem of Christianity, volume I , lecture III, section IX:
"... individualism and collectivism are tendencies, each of which, as our social order grows, intensifies the
other. The more the social will expresses itself in vast organizations of collective power, the more are
individuals trained to be aware of their own personal wants and choices and ideals, and of the vast
opportunities that would be theirs if they could but gain control of these social forces. The more, in sum,
does their individual self-will become conscious, deliberate, cultivated, and therefore dangerously alert
"It is a sensitive self-will, which feels the importance of the social forces, and which wants them to grow
more powerful, so that haply they may be used by the individual himself. And so, when opportunity offers,
the individual self-will casts its vote in favor of new devices to enrich or to intensify the expression of the
collective will. For it desires social powers. It wants them for its own use....
"For the highly trained modern agitator, or the plastic disciple of agitators, if both intelligent and
reasonably orderly in habits, is intensely both an individualist and a man who needs the collective will,
who in countless ways and cases bows to that will, and votes for it, and increases its power. The
individualism of such a man wars with his own collectivism; while each, as I insist, tends to inflame the
other. As an agitator, the typically restless child of our age often insists upon heaping up new burdens of
social control, — control that he intends to have others feel rather than himself."
interpreting Revelation 9:1-2
"Then the fifth angel blew his trumpet, and I saw a star fallen from heaven upon the earth; and to him was
given the key to the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit, and out of the pit there went up a
smoke like the smoke of a great furnace. And the sun and the air grew dark, because of the smoke out of the
pit" (Helen Montgomery's translation).
The King James Version of Revelation 9:1 states: "And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from
heaven unto the earth; and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit." Is the key given to the angel or
to the star? Joseph Smith Jr., in his revision of the King James Version, available from the Community of
Christ, has the key going to the angel: "And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto
the earth; and to the angel was given the key of the bottomless pit." The New International Version has the
key going to the star: "The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to
the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss." I think the key goes to the angel, since in
Revelation 20:1, KJV, we read: "And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the
bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand."
Another problem in interpreting Revelation 9:1 can be confusion over whether the star that falls is like a
meteorite or is some spiritual being. Revelation 12:9, KJV, states: "And the great dragon was cast out, that
old serpent, called the Devil and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world; he was cast out into the earth, and
his angels were cast out with him". Luke 10:18, KJV, has Jesus saying: "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from
Joseph Smith Jr.'s revision of 1 Peter 3:18-20 states: "For Christ also once suffered for sins, the just for the
unjust, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit, that he might bring us to God. For which
cause also, he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; some of whom were disobedient in the days of
Noah, while the long-suffering of God waited, while the ark was preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls
were saved by water."
Then, in Doctrine and Covenants 76:6c, we read: "Behold, these are they who died without law; and also they
who are the spirits of men kept in prison, whom the Son visited, and preached the gospel unto them, that they
might be judged according to men in the flesh, who received not the testimony of Jesus in the flesh, but
afterwards received it."
Thus, the preaching of Christ to those in the bottomless pit would have caused a great division among those
spirits. Those obedient to Christ would want to help His cause on their release from the pit, while those still
opposed to Christ would want to reinforce the powers of evil under Satan's leadership. I would guess that
those obedient to Christ's ministry will be able to leave the pit before supporters of the beast ascend from it.
These are difficult matters to interpret. Revelation 13:1 says a beast will "rise up out of the sea". Revelation
11:7 mentions a beast "that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit". Since both verses seem to be referring to
the same beast, I think the ascension from the bottomless pit represents a later transformation of the beast
that rose up out of the sea. That would yield this chronology:
1. A beast rises up out of the sea (Revelation 13:1-4).
2. A beast comes up out of the earth (Revelation 13:11).
3. The bottomless pit is opened (Revelation 9:1; 2 Thessalonians 2:5-8).
4. The Antichrist is revealed (Revelation 13:5-10,16-18).
5. The false prophet is revealed (Revelation 13:12-15).
6. The second coming of Christ will not begin with a resurrection of the dead in Him and a rapture of living
saints, but rather as a confrontation with those supposed to be doing his work on Earth (Isaiah 59:19-20;
Malachi 3:1-5; Luke 12:35-48; etc.). The resurrection (and the rapture that follows it) will not occur until Christ
is to descend to reign on Earth for a thousand years, when the Antichrist and the false prophet are cast into a
lake of fire burning with brimstone (Revelation 19:20).
7. Repentant spirits from the pit become agents for God's judgments on His people (Revelation 9:2-11).
8. Evil spirits from the pit reinforce the powers of Satan (Revelation 9:13-15).
9. World War III destroys "the third part of men" (Revelation 9:15-21).
10. The destruction of the wicked by Christ (Revelation 19:11-21).
11. Satan will be bound in the pit for a thousand years (Revelation 20:1-3).
"Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates" of Revelation 9:14 was revised by
Joseph Smith Jr. to read: "Loose the four angels which are bound in the bottomless pit". This confirms that
evil spirits are held back when the bottomless pit is first opened. Notice that the first woe (fifth trumpet) is not
intended to kill people (Revelation 9:5-6), whereas the second woe (sixth trumpet) will kill "the third part of
men" (Revelation 9:15). That contrast convinces me that the first woe serves the purposes of God, whereas
the second woe serves the purposes of Satan.
30 the organization of evil
Revelation 12:3-4, King James Version
||Revelation 12:4, Inspired Version
3 And there appeared another wonder in
heaven; and behold a great red dragon,
having seven heads and ten horns, and
seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars
of heaven, and did cast them to the earth ...
|4 And there appeared another sign in|
heaven; and behold, a great red dragon,
having seven heads and ten horns, and
seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail
drew the third part of the stars of heaven,
and did cast them to the earth ...
Revelation 13:1, King James Version
||Revelation 13:1, Inspired Version|
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and
saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having
seven heads and ten horns, and upon his
horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the
name of blasphemy.
|1 And I saw another sign, in the likeness|
of the kingdoms of the earth; a beast rise up
out of the sea, and he stood upon the sand of
the sea, having seven heads and ten horns;
and upon his horns ten crowns; and upon his
heads the name of blasphemy.
The quote from Revelation 12 is a description of the spiritual organization of Satan's rebellion|
against God when it still had access to heaven. The quote from Revelation 13 is a description of
Satan's organization on Earth after he and his angels had been cast down here (Revelation
12:7-9 KJV, 12:6-8 IV). Notice the shift of crowns (rulership) from scheming heads to horns
(instruments of offensive and defensive weaponry). That is because Satan's earthly organization
must rely more on military and police force than on persuasive argument and willing cooperation
to achieve its goals.
commentary on Revelation 13:1-10 by J. A. Seiss
from The Apocalypse: Lectures on the Book of Revelation, page 322
In the preceding chapter we were called to contemplate the great Dragon, the Old Serpent, his
influence over our world, his perpetual malignity toward the saints, his casting out from the
heavenly spaces at the glorification of the Church of the first-born, his great rage at being cast
down into the earth, and his consequent determination to destroy all the people of God yet to
be found among mortals. But Satan is a spirit, and cannot operate in the affairs of our world
except through the minds, passions, and activities of men. He needs to embody himself in
earthly agents, and to put himself forth in earthly organisms in order to accomplish his
murderous will. And through the inspired seer, God here makes known to us what that
organism is, and how the agency and determination of the enraged Dragon will be exerted in
acting out his blasphemies, deceits, and bloody spite.
Shall Satan cast out Satan?
"And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?"
(Matthew 12:26, King James Version).
In the Book of Revelation we are introduced to two great evils, a beast with seven heads and ten
horns, and Babylon the Great riding on the beast (Chapter 17). But notice Revelation 17:16:
"And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make
her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire." Thus, the fall of Babylon
precedes the destruction of the kingdom of the beast. This is not Satan casting out Satan, but
Satan's earthly beast, his world government, bringing the nations he presides over into World
Revelation 17:12: "And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no
kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast." This "one hour with the
beast" is significant because the "great city which reigneth over the kings of the earth"
(Revelation 17:18) is destroyed in "one hour" (Revelation 18:10,17,19). Now who makes the
great city Babylon desolate? It is none other than the ten kings having power "one hour with the
beast." Revelation 17:16: "And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate
the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with
fire." So the "one hour with the beast" is the same "one hour" in which the great city Babylon
is made desolate.
After the ten kings have destroyed Babylon the Great, they "make war with the Lamb",
implying that Christ is in the midst of His people in Zion when Babylon is destroyed. Revelation
17:14: "These [ten kings] shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them:
for He is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with Him [in Zion] are called, and
chosen, and faithful." After they are overcome, the ten kings no longer have any mentioned
role. In the Armageddon gathering (Revelation 16:12-16), the dragon, the beast, and the false
prophet are all still active, but the ten kings are then out of the picture.
Doctrine and Covenants 76:3i-m|
And this we saw also, and bear record, that an angel of God, who was in authority in the presence
of God, who rebelled against the only begotten Son; whom the Father loved, and who was in the
bosom of the Father; and was thrust down from the presence of God and the Son, and was called
Perdition; for the heavens wept over him; he was Lucifer, a son of the morning. And we beheld,
and lo, he is fallen! is fallen! even a son of the morning. And while we were yet in the Spirit, the
Lord commanded us that we should write the vision; for we beheld Satan, that old serpent, even
the Devil, who rebelled against God, and sought to take the kingdom of our God and his Christ;
wherefore he maketh war with the saints of God, and encompasses them them round about. And
we saw a vision of the sufferings of those with whom he made war and overcame ...
Genesis 3:1-5, Inspired Version|
And I, the Lord God, spake unto Moses, saying, That Satan whom thou hast commanded in the
name of mine Only Begotten, is the same which was from the beginning; and he came before me,
saying, Behold I, send me, I will be thy Son, and I will redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not
be lost, and surely I will do it; wherefore, give me thine honor. But behold, my beloved Son, which
was my beloved and chosen from the beginning, said unto me: Father, thy will be done, and the
glory be thine forever. Wherefore, because that Satan rebelled against me, and sought to destroy
the agency of man, which I, the Lord God, had given him; and also that I should give unto him
mine own power; by the power of mine Only Begotten I caused that he should be cast down; and
he became Satan. Yea, even the devil, the father of all lies, to deceive, and to blind men, and to
lead them captive at his will, even as many as would not hearken unto my voice.
Isaiah 14:12-15 KJV||
New Testament, King James Version
||Doctrine and Covenants 28:10|
12 How art thou fallen from|
heaven, O Lucifer, son of the
morning! how art thou cut
down to the ground, which
didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in
thine heart, I will ascend into
heaven, I will exalt my throne
above the stars of God: I will
sit also upon the mount of the
congregation, in the sides of
14 I will ascend above the
heights of the clouds; I will be
like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought
down to hell, to the sides of
2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the|
angels that sinned, but cast them down
to hell, and de livered them into chains
of darkness, to be reserved unto
Jude 6 And the angels which kept not
their first estate, but left their own
habitation, he hath reserved in
everlasting chains under darkness
unto the judg ment of the great day.
Rev. 12:3 And there appeared
another wonder in heaven; and behold
a great red drag on, having seven
heads and ten horns, and seven
crowns upon his heads.
Rev. 12:4 And his tail drew the third
part of the stars of heaven, and did
cast them to the earth ...
10 ... for he [the Devil]|
rebelled against me, saying,
Give me thine honor, which
is my power; and also a
third part of the hosts of
heaven turned he away from
me because of their agency;
and they were thrust down,
and thus became the Devil
and his angels; and, behold,
there is a place prepared for
them from the beginning,
which place is hell ...
"And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed,
which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" (Revelation 12:17).
Wroth means filled with anger.
"But behold, that great and abominable church, the whore of all the earth, must tumble to the
earth; and great must be the fall thereof: for the kingdom of the devil must shake, and they which
belong to it must needs be stirred up unto repentance, or the devil will grasp them with his
everlasting chains, and they be stirred up to anger and perish; for behold, at that day shall he rage
in the hearts of the children of men, and stir them up to anger against that which is good" (The Book
of Mormon 2 Nephi 12:22-24).
spiritual experiences mentioned in a 1970 letter by John McDonnell
"The reason for my turn to religious interests is on account of some frightening experiences I've
been having for the last few years. They are spiritual experiences that occur when I am asleep,
although during them I am not asleep. They are as real as everyday life and completely different
from mere dreams. The first one was on the day after Lynn died. I was sleeping and during my
sleep I felt like someone was pulling me out of bed. The next thing I knew the thing I call 'myself',
my self-conscious being, was looking down at my own body. I was hovering above. When I
returned to my body it was chilled to the bone although it was over 90 degrees on a July 5th. Since
then my spiritual experiences have been milder. But recently I've had two more ghastly
experiences. A couple of months ago I had another out-of-body experience and everything was
dark, bitterly dark. Last month, or the month before, it was even sicker. I had a conversation with
a spirit while I was in the spiritual consciousness. He said his name was 'Ino Ago' and that he
must wait for the Judgment Day. The experience ended in horror, and perhaps it is a mercy that
I can't remember what was so horrifying. Such experiences would make anyone become
religious—by necessity! Who would not fear for the eternal well-being of one's own soul?"
31 genetic engineering and man-made diseases
In Ralph Waldo Emerson's 1841 oration "The Method of Nature" is a statement that in our age
of genetic engineering must seem strange. "In all animal and vegetable forms, the physiologist
concedes that no chemistry, no mechanics, can account for the facts, but a mysterious principle
of life must be assumed, which not only inhabits the organ, but makes the organ."
Our present media report on genetic research in an oversimplified way suggesting that every
aspect of any life form is determined by the chemistry and mechanics of its genetic makeup,
which can be artificially altered at any point to change any aspect of the resulting life form.
Thus, what is presented in the media is a complete rejection of Emerson's 1841 observation.
One problem with these oversimplified suggestions is that there should not necessarily be a
one-to-one correspondence between genes in DNA spirals and each aspect of a mature life
form, because of necessity there must be numerous transformations in growth between the
seeds for new life forms and the attainment of maturity for reproduction. Unless artificial
changes are able to move toward mature manifestations in harmony with everything else, the
process could altogether fail.
Yet there have been many "successful" products of genetic engineering. Could those who
altered the genes have known beforehand what would happen through each stage of
development towards maturity? I tend to doubt it. I think it is more a case of "Let's see what
happens". Perhaps eventually what happens through each stage of development might be
observed. But even then, there could be no real assurance that every stage of development
could be accounted for by chemistry and mechanics.
Emerson's "mysterious principle of life" could still be an unseen driving force through the
development of life forms tampered with by genetic engineers. It may be that without the
"mysterious principle of life" no genetic engineering experiment could ever be "successful".
If anyone wonders why I have put "successful" in quotes, here are some concerns I have
about genetic engineering:
letter by John McDonnell in Acres, U.S.A., 1988, July
EVERY CORRUPTIBLE THING
Did genetic engineering bring on the destroying
flood in Noah's time? "And God looked upon the
earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had
corrupted his way upon the earth. For God said
unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before
me; for the earth is filled with violence through
them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the
earth." The gathering of animals into the ark
may have been to preserve the kinds that God
had originally made rather than all kinds then
existing. Noah was assigned to keep alive pairs
from "every living thing of all flesh" with the
stipulation that they be "after their kind."
Jesus warned, "As the days of Noah were, so
shall also the coming of the Son of man be." An
1833 prophecy of Joseph Smith concerning
conditions at the second coming of Christ states:
"The veil of the covering of my temple, in my
tabernacle, which hideth the earth, shall be taken
off, and all flesh shall see me together. And every
corruptible thing, both of man, or of the beasts of
the field, or of the fowls of heaven, or of the fish
of the sea, that dwell upon all the face of the
earth, shall be consumed; and also, that of
element shall melt with fervent heat; and all
things shall become new, that my knowledge
and glory may dwell upon all the earth. And in
that day the enmity of man, and the enmity of
beasts; yea, the enmity of all flesh shall cease
from before my face" (RLDS Doctrine and
Covenants 98:5). "Every corruptible thing" may
refer to the products of genetic engineering.
I believe there are connections between spirit
and element, which no mortal adequately
understands, that are safeguarded by the
genetic codes the Creator set up. Genetic
engineering would so corrupt these connections
that things would exist that are neither man, nor
beast, nor fowl, nor fish. If the object of genetic
engineering is "better" plants, animals, and
humans, who is to decide what "better" is? The
only true goal is healthier plants, animals,
and people, which nearly everyone can
appreciate, and which can be joyfully
achieved from the soil up beginning with the
art of biological farming.
"... a desolating scourge shall go forth among
the inhabitants of the earth, and shall continue
to be poured out [by genetic engineers], from
time to time, if they [the inhabitants, including
genetic engineers] repent not, until the earth
is empty, and the inhabitants thereof are
consumed away, and utterly destroyed by
the brightness of my coming. Behold, I tell
you these things even as I also told the
people of the destruction of Jerusalem, and
my word shall be verified at this time as it
hath hitherto been verified" (Doctrine and
"... and there shall be men standing in that
generation that shall not pass, until they shall
see an overflowing scourge, for a desolating
sickness shall come over the land; but my
disciples shall stand in holy places, and shall
not be moved; but among the wicked, men
shall lift up their voices and curse God, and
die. And there shall be earthquakes, also, in
divers places and many desolations; yet
men will harden their hearts against me,
and they will take up the sword one against
another, and they will kill one another"
(Doctrine and Covenants 45:4d-f).
When I hear those wanting to play God over
humanity saying there are too many people
and that human populations need to be
reduced now, and when I tie that attitude in
with the fact that new diseases that
bypass the human immune system began
showing up not long after genetic
engineering began to develop, what am I as
a thinking person supposed to conclude? It
certainly cannot be that those controlling
genetic engineering are pure scientists
unwilling to sell their secrets to the social
engineers who are openly saying that
they want human populations reduced.
Numerous corporations are already
investing millions of dollars in genetic
engineering projects, whose goals are not
subject to review by the general public. But
then, this is the very essence of arrogance.
They are little mortals like the rest of us
who think that an elite group of enlightened
mortals can somehow know exactly what
should be done with the rest of us.
32 temple singers
_____Community of Christ Temple in Independence, Missouri
letter by John McDonnell in Saints Herald, 1974, November
Question Time (October issue) stated that
Israel's temple choir "celebrated animal sacrifice."
True, the court choir of 4,000 male singers, divided
into courses, per formed twice daily, morning and
evening (I Chronicles 23:5-6,30), the times of
sacrifice (Exodus 29:38-39). But the temple choir
of 288 singers, both male and female (I Chronicles
25:5-6), in twenty-four courses of twelve, prophesied
day and night without ceasing (I Chronicles 25; 9:33;
Psalms 84:4; 134), therefore having no connection
with animal sacrifice. The temple singers were
given the word of the Lord on conditions of
righteousness (Psalm 33:3-4, Inspired Version), so
that there were times when they truly prophesied
with their harps, etc. (I Chronicles 25:1). Since "the
testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy"
(Revelation 19:10), the temple choir sang of the
coming Messiah, some of their songs being
preserved in the Book of Psalms, which the
Messiah acknowledged as being prophetic of
himself (Luke 24:43, I.V.).
We need to "come before his presence with
singing" (Psalm 100:2) and sing unto him "among
the nations" (Psalm 57:9) because the temple will
be "a place of thanksgiving, for all Saints"
(Doctrine and Covenants 94:3c) which "shall be
gathered out from among all nations, and shall
come to Zion singing, with songs of everlasting
joy" (Doctrine and Covenants 45:14). "The
[acoustical?] shape and character of the building is
to conform to ministries which will be carried out
within its walls" (Doctrine and Covenants 149:6a).
I Chronicles 23:5-6, King James Version|
Moreover four thousand were porters; and
four thousand praised the Lord with the
instruments which I made, said David, to
praise therewith. And David divided them into
courses among the sons of Levi, namely,
Gershon, Kohath, and Merari.
I Chronicles 23:30, King James Version
And to stand every morning to thank and
praise the Lord, and likewise at even.
Exodus 29:38-39, King James Version
Now this is that which thou shalt offer upon
the altar; two lambs of the first year day by
day continually. The one lamb thou shalt
offer in the morning; and the other lamb
thou shalt offer at even.
I Chronicles 25:5-6, King James Version
... And God gave to Heman fourteen sons and
three daughters. All these were under the
hands of their father for song in the house of
the Lord, with cymbals, psalteries, and harps,
for the service of the house of God, according
to the king's order to Asaph, Jeduthun, and
I Chronicles 9:33, King James Version
And these are the singers, chief of the
fathers of the Levites, who remaining in the
chambers were free; for they were employed
in that work day and night.
Psalms 84:4, King James Version
Blessed are they that dwell in thy house; they
will be still praising thee.
Psalm 134, King James Version
Behold, bless ye the Lord, all ye servants of
the Lord, which by night stand in the house
of the Lord. Lift up your hands in the
sanctuary, and bless the Lord. The Lord that
made heaven and earth bless thee out of Zion.
Psalm 33:3-4, Inspired Version
Sing unto him a new song; play skillfully with
a loud noise. For the word of the Lord is
given to the upright, and all his works are
done in truth.
I Chronicles 25:1, King James Version
Moreover David and the captains of the host
separated to the service of the sons of
Asaph, and of Heman, and of Jeduthun, who
should prophesy with harps, with psalteries,
and with cymbals ...
Luke 24:43, Inspired Version
And he said unto them, These are the words
which I spake unto you while I was yet with
you, that all things must be fulfilled which
were written in the law of Moses, and in the
prophets, and in the Psalms, concerning me.
Now imminent and preceded by angels Christ will manifest Himself to those supposed to be doing His
work on Earth (Malachi 3:1-5; Luke 12:35-48; Revelation 14:1-5). This will inspire worldwide missionary
activity (Revelation 14:6-7). Meanwhile, America's economy will collapse (Isaiah 1:31, Jewish Publication
Society's 1985 translation: "Stored wealth shall become as tow, And he who amassed it a spark; And the
two shall burn together, With none to quench"). Cleansed churches will help people rebuild their lives on
better foundations (Isaiah 4:2-6). An awakened electorate will see that America's government is reduced
to its constitutional limits (Isaiah 52:1-8). Those opposed to Christ will congregate in areas like California,
where God's wrath will be unleashed through earthquakes and foreign invasion (Isaiah 5:18-30; Micah 5:15;
Revelation 9:1-11). The arrogant ones who, but for Christ's manifestation would have subjected all nations
to their will, will use their remaining powers to bring on World War III (Isaiah 49:26; Revelation 9:13-21).
The chief area for refuge from war will be the vast Mississippi Valley (Isaiah 33:14-24). After the war the
arrogant ones will organize a final futile attempt to oppose the coming of Christ to reign over the whole
Earth for a thousand years (Isaiah 63:1-6; Revelation 11:15-19; 14:9-11; 14:17-20; 16:13-14; 19:11-21).
The term "Armageddon" has taken on meanings that have broken loose of its origin in Revelation 16:13-16,
where it is a gathering place for those persuaded to battle against the establishment of Christ's millennial
reign (Revelation 19:11 - 20:3). The Armageddon gathering will be preceded by World War III, during which
a third of mankind will be killed (Revelation 9:13-21). Such massive destruction is what is often meant by
the term "Armageddon".
1994 quatrains by John McDonnell based on dreams experienced in 1971
The final U.S. navy ship that leaves
Japan is cursed by gathered crowds who raise
Clenched fists and sputter epithets. This grieves
The numbered ones recounting zero days.
Their aegis sabotaged, Pacific ships
Are taken captive with their crews, whose fears
And futile raging soar. No radar blips
Spread hope that any rescue party nears.
Along an earthquake coast a siren whines.
Attacking jet aircraft armadas bear
Magenta, yellow, orange, and red designs.
The U.S. jets sent west have not a prayer.
predictions by John McDonnell posted at American Thinker June 10, 2010
The Commander-in-Chief's agenda is to weaken the U.S.A. in every way possible. Even a strategy of
defending the homeland will be weak. Far Eastern nations already have the Aegis system we use to protect
Navy ships. They know how to sabotage and take over our ships. When that is accomplished, they will use
jet aircraft to gain control of California. They will use superior air power to control our people by emitting
painful rays. They will not destroy the land because they need the resources. Our Air Force will be too
outdated and outnumbered to stop it.
34 recommended books
_____The Book of Mormon
The Book of Mormon: Restored Covenant Edition
Zarahemla Research Foundation (1999)
1028 pages, text based on original and printer's manuscripts, RLDS versification, selected concordance, geography concordance
The Book of Mormon: A Reader's Edition
edited by Grant Hardy, University of Illinois Press (2003)
710 pages, 1920 LDS text and versification, introduction, content headings, footnotes, appendixes, etc.
The Book of Mormon: The Earliest Text
edited by Royal Skousen, Yale University Press (2009)
789 pages, text based on original and printer's manuscripts, LDS versification, introduction by Grant Hardy, list of textual changes
Understanding the Book of Mormon: A Reader's Guide
by Grant Hardy, Oxford University Press (2010)
346 pages, has chapters on "Prophets of Old: Scriptural Interpretation" and "The Day of the Lord's Coming: Prophecy and Fulfillment"
For examples of how The Book of Mormon contributes to understanding Bible prophecies,
see Nephi and Jacob on meaning of Isaiah 49:21-26 and the meaning of Micah 5:8-15.
_____The Islamic Antichrist
The Islamic Antichrist: the Shocking Truth About the Real Nature of the Beast
by Joel Richardson, WND Books (2009)
282 pages, second edition of Antichrist: Islam's Awaited Messiah (2006)
God's War on Terror: Islam, Prophecy, and the Bible
by Walid Shoebat with Joel Richardson, Top Executive Media (2010)
512 pages, second edition of 2008 book; prior to his conversion to Christianity, Walid was a Muslim terrorist
Mideast Beast: the Scriptural Case for an Islamic Antichrist
by Joel Richardson, WND Books (2012)
283 pages, chapter 7 "Daniel 9:26: The People of the Prince To Come" destroys the European Antichrist paradigm
Daniel Revisited: Discovering the Four Mideast Signs Leading to the Antichrist
by Mark Davidson, WestBow Press (2013)
293 pages, second edition of Hidden In Plain Sight: The Signposts of the Coming of the Antichrist Revealed (2012)
The Coming Bible Prophecy Reformation: Shifting From the European To the Middle Eastern End Time Paradigm
by Rodrigo Silva, CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform (2014)
387 pages, has interesting appendix "How Many Tribes Do the Jews Represent?"
The Islamic Antichrist Theory is on the rise because it opens up for understanding many Bible prophecies.
_____God's Covenants with Israel
When a Jew Rules the World: What the Bible Really Says About Israel in the Plan of God
by Joel Richardson, WND Books (2015)
273 pages, convincingly argues that God's covenants with Israel must soon be fulfilled
An otherwise excellent book, it falsely assumes that there will be animal sacrifices at the millennial
temple in Jerusalem. See Ezekiel 40 - 48, Revelation 11:1-2, and Alma 16:207-217.