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Dear Ted,

I had intended to send you some news about the activities of the Hampshire Mills Group some time ago, but unfortunately I have not been working with them for several months. However, yesterday I rejoined the other volunteers at a Mill which I did not know existed and managed to put in a few hours of "light duties".

The Mill is situated just outside a village called Bishops Waltham, about ten miles from Southampton. It is a very old village, and there are the ruins of an Abbey, complete with the Bishop's House, still preserved there.

I have not yet learned anything of the history of the Mill, but like most of them, it has been at first neglected, and then part of it re-built for use as offices. Luckily, the part of the building that was re-built did not include the working part of the Mill which is almost complete, although some of the machinery has gone, and some line shafting has been taken down, but again, seems to be complete with it's bearings and hangers. There were four pairs of stones, of which three remain, the fourth pair were at the end of the building which is now quite rotten, which is probably why they were removed. Up on the bin floor, things look original, some bins still having grain in them, and this is where we have started, cleaning out years of dust and dirt. We shall work our way downwards.

Outside there are two large pitchback water wheels, I estimate their size to be about 6ft. wide by about 10ft. diameter. Both are fed from a large rivetted open topped flume which extends from a wall. There is, of course, a sluice gate for each wheel and an interesting thing here is that each are different. The first is a plain flat plate which is moved across an opening in the bottom of the flume by a simple rack and pinion, while the other is a curved plate which is lifted by the rotation of a shaft to which it is fixed. Perhaps the idea is that the second wheel is sometimes short of water, and the lifted plate may direct it down onto the wheel to gain more power. Whichever, all the mechanism is rusted up at the moment. The water comes through a tunnel which runs under the busy road which passes the Mill, and the source of the water is a large lake which itself is fed mainly from springs. The lake is badly silted and overgrown, but I am told the Government Department of the Environment is going to improve the state of the lake.

As I said, I know no history of the Mill, but obviously one wheel was installed some time after the other, as the first hurst frame is wooden, while the second is cast iron. All the machinery, hursts, wheels, and flume,were made by the same Company, J.Armfield, who were based at Ringwood, a market town in the New Forest, about 12 miles from Southampton. They are unfortunately no longer in existance, though I believe some of their records are held in the Record Office in Winchester. Most Mills in this area were equipped by Armfield, as one would expect, as they produced every thing for the mill, waterwheels, turbines, sluices, gears, weed-screens, etc., although Gilkes Turbines are also found, and they were made in the North of England.

Before I end, Ted, I have much enjoyed your article on Millstone Dressing Tools, and have shown it to other members of the H.M.G. We have a quarterly Newsletter, and I have been asked to ask you for permission to re-produce the article in the next issue. We would, of course, give full acknowledgement to you as the Author, and I would be sure to send you a copy if you would like one. I should be most grateful if you have no objections to this.


An English Reader


Mr Theodore Hazen,

Love your web site! Your information is the most concise yet well- rounded description of the history of milling I have found. This brings me to a favor I would like to ask. I am a volunteer interpetor (amoung other things) at Aldie Mill, Aldie Va. Well I should say I will be an interpetor; Aldie Mill will be starting it's 1st regularly schedualed tours on October 13. Most of the volunteers are local people who are old enough to remember the mill still running and grinding corn for feed. They are a great source of information on the history of this mill, but they are not as familure with the workings of a mill, or milling in general. I do have somewhat more knowlege, however I do not have the time or ability to teach even what little I do know in time.

I would, therfore, like your permision to print and reproduce material in your web pages and distribute them to the other volunteers.

I also will be helping replace the hurst frame, and maybe the wheel, at the Burwell-Morgan mill in Millwood, Va., this winter and I am sure that they would also like to see this information.

As much work as you have put into your web pages deserves honoring your copyright, but I do hope you will give me permission to reproduce them.

Thank you for your time and efforts,

A Virginia Reader


Dear Ted,

I have just visited your home page and think it's great, Ted! You have really done a wonderful job with this. Anybody interested in old mills should be able to find this page, and they will receive a lot of information when they do.

Mike LaForest (former Editor of OLD MILL NEWS).


Top Level>Arts>Architecture>History &Criticism.

-A must see site:
Reviews-Pond Lily Mill Restorations

A gem of a site for all who are interested in the history of flour mills and the restoration of those that still exist. The Roanoke, Virginia site is filled with links to related organizations, books, historical archives and photographs. A surprisingly interesting site.


Congratulations! "Pond Lily" is a site that is a credit to the net. I have always felt that yours was a standout because so much of what is out there now is pretty shallow and just plain dumb. Nice to get recognition though.
more later,


Congradulations on an outstanding website. You offer the most helpfull information on Mills on the net to date. Anyone who finds it will be pleased.

Thanks again for responding so quickly to your messages, I hope that you get the recognition you deserve.
A Milwaukee Reader


We are the process of restoring Adams Mill, original site 1831, present mill building 1845. Most of the machinery still turns and operates very quiet. We are open for tours from the first week-end in may through the last week-end in Oct. 1:00PM to 6:00PM. This is our fourth year to be open and we are still working. (we have two turbines 1 @ 35 Horse and 1 @ 100 horse)

I enjoy your articles very much. Thank you (The Friends of Adams Mill Valley Inc. A public Foundation, Box351 Cutler IN 46920


Dear T.R. Hazen

I just wanted to thank you for your Pond Lily site. I had a paper due and used much of your information and links. This was very helpful and also quite interesting. I discovered much more than I needed, yet found it even more interesting!

Thank you for your help!



Thanks for the information on "the Miller". Corey is almost finished his work and his class is having an Open House this month. Several teachers thought it was neat that a man in from Pennsylvania could help a boy in London, Ontario with his school project. We thought so too! You have been a tremendous help!

If we can ever help someone else over "the Net" we will gladly do so and keep you in mind!

Thanks a million, Ted! Wish there were more people like you out there!

"The Real Millers"


Dear trhazen:

First of all I guess I had better express my astonishment that there is a site for everything on the internet; I really thought that I would have a hard time finding anything closely related to mill restorations. Every day is an education for me....

From an Indiana man whose owned a mill there.....


Dear Mr. Hazen,
I am speechless!  Never have I recieved so much information on a "shot in the dark" e-mail message.  Once I get all this digested and see what I can find for source material from your bibliography I probably will get back to you. 

Thanks so very much for your quick response with so many references. It really will go along way in helping me understand the possibilities of what is going on at these long forgotten dam sites. 

A former shovel bum worker for a state archaeologist in Iowa


I don`t think there can be any doubt as to the superiority of your web site to anything on the world wide web and of course your knowledge must be among the foremost in the world of milling. I am glad you are getting the recognition.
Nice going,
A Virginia video production company.


Hi, (Subject: Mill Website #1)

I love your website. I'm working on an educational project about mills and the industrial revolution in the early to mid-19th century and your website is a real treasure trove of information. I'll keep looking through the site.................Wow! Thanks very much. I haven't had a chance to look at all of what you sent me, but it looks like a lot of extra help for me. Thanks again.


Mr. Hazen -
    Thank you for putting together a great site on the Fitz wheel. I live about an hour east of Hanover and was luck enough to visit with Mr. Wiesensale - the last plant manager for Fitz - back in the 80's. I'm quite familiar with these great wheels and have collected a number of their catalogs.

Best Cameron Macleod  web site -


Dear Mr. Hazen:

Thank you so much for sharing your insight and expertise.  The information is fascinating, and I hope you do someday get that book written.

Again, I appreciate your time and knowledge.

A writter from Houston, Texas


Mr. Hazen,

I love your web site.  I was overwhelmed by the amount of technical information you have put together.  I am researching for a book that takes place in 1868, and need to know the cost of flour, meal, etc. during that period.  Do you have any suggestions where I can find that information?

Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to provide,

A reader from Chattanooga, Tennessee


Hello Ted,
Long time no hear from you. I can't thank you enough for the article that you put on your Website about Dellinger Mill. Perhaps that will give us a little more publicity. I stayed open every day last October and I bet we didn't have 20 people the whole month. Too isolated I guess.
I've been getting some mountain grown corn from around Hendersonville and it really makes good cornbread. Come on down about June and I will give you a bag.
What have you been up to lately? Restored any mills?
Again, many thanks for pulling together the mill article and posting it on your website.
Best Regards,
Jack Dellinger


Dear Sir/Madam,

My daughter had to do a research project on water wheels, and was having a hard time finding information under the conventional search engines. I started to help her look and found your site to be the most informative and complete one on the subject. Our hometown, Buchanan, MI has the only fully operational grist mill in the area - several others that existed nearby have been destroyed or deteriorated past preservation. It is important to keep some of our heritage - including what modern technology would claim as dinousaurs, like operational water wheels and grist mills.  Good luck in your progress, and thank you for helping us out.

A Michigan Reader



I am very impressed with your website I began my personal research of colonial mills over three years ago when I first read the term "cornemill" on a probate record. Long story short, I moved from Northern California to Connecticut in 1999 to continue my study of New England colonial mills. As romantic as all this sounds my research and writing about mills is very important to me.

Additionally, I descend directly from over 8 generations of millers in New England (since the 1600's). My ancestors were Calvinist Puritans who were said to be millers in England (unconfirmed). I find history has left much of the miller legacy unclaimed.

I am in search of discussion groups, circles of common interests, and pools of resources to aid me in my research as well as building kindness among like minded people. As far as I can tell your website centers on the study of mills in the middle and southern colonies and may not apply especially to New England. Overall, I want to compliment you on your website and extensive and comprehensive study on mills. I thoroughly appreciate your efforts.

Yours truly,
Guilford, CT



Sometimes I get lucky in my research and talk to the right people first. This was obviously one of those times. I'm so glad I found your website, and I thank you for taking the time to so completely address my questions. I owe you a big favor.

Phil Ruth
Director of Research
Cultural Heritage Research Services, Inc.



I really enjoy your web site. It makes me have lightning bolts flash thru my brain.

Thank You


Thank you for your explanation of the origin of the name for pumpernickle bread. There is a ridiculus story of combining German words pumpern and nickel.

Thanks again

Rainbow Bird


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