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Everett1984
post Yesterday, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(Nachokoolaid @ Oct 13 2005, 10:28 PM)
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Since this is a bit too much to read, I'm printing this :D

A long yet informative and in-depth review it be :)
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post Yesterday, 11:17 PM
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well enough of this spear thing the other info is great espesially about the argonian
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post Yesterday, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(irwanday01 @ Oct 13 2005, 11:17 PM)
i don't beleive the story.

he didnt' remeber the devs name.

all the info he stated could have been taken from released vids or interviews.

he said he hadn't played morrowind and then said "birthsigns are in AGAIN." like he new they were in before.  And he said "the game feels like it has been more streamlined."  more streamlined than what, if he hasnt played morrowind than what was oblivion more streamlined of.
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That's your choice. The rest of us are free to believe or disbelieve the story.
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Kalkin
post Yesterday, 11:19 PM
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THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT!!!!
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post Yesterday, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(Britney @ Oct 13 2005, 09:33 PM)
how come everyone who gets to play has never played TES before?

I mean you'd think they would pick some fans of the series and not total strangers to it... its synonymous with getting someone who lived in the 1800's to review the movie Star Wars for a bunch of Star Wars fans...
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Thats what I was thinking....maybe I should pretend I was the guy that got bored with Morrowind in 5 minutes because the graphics sucked...

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Mr. Cliff Racer
post Yesterday, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(HobGadling @ Oct 13 2005, 11:13 PM)
The devs have said "hundreds".

Believe it :)
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Believe that once again we have another piece of information publicly available? That was my whole point, nothing new.

Look, I'm not trying to rain down here, but for cryin' out loud, take a look at your email bulk folder. This wouldn't be the first time someone's pulled a stunt like this.

When people start making claims like "their are no spears, I know that for sure, I was their", and wrap it around some miracle story about being whisked away to NYC for some dream vacation...Like i said at first, am I the only one who finds this suspect????
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post Yesterday, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(Mr. Cliff Racer @ Oct 13 2005, 10:12 PM)
Tell me I'm not the only one who has a very hard time believing this whole thing? I've written about this before, and still feel the same way.

The best evidence if you don't feel the same way i do is to just read the post.

For one, their is absolutely nothing new. Not one thing that any one of us couldn't have either gotten from an official site or just made up.

Other things are way more suspect, such as the facial system having about 100 sliders? Are you kidding me? Tiger Woods gold had a super facial system and it only had 20-30 sliders at most.

What I'd like to know most of all is why no information about the outdoors? I've read a few posts now from people claiming they were at this miracle session and none of them could provide any information about the outdoor areas. Why do you think that is? He says he had two hours with the game. That's a LONG TIME TO SPEND WITHOUT GETTING OUTDOORS. I think most of you will agree the first dungeon won't take that long. So why this discrepancy?

It's also suspicious that a Elder Scrolls new commer would remember so much about the different races in the game, but forget the name of the dev who he says he talked with. Also, he says "birth signs are here again" How would know again if you've never played an elder scrolls game before?
I'm not trying to be a downer, but this is just too strange to be true. You be the judge. IMO, at best he's telling the truth, in which case he hasn't let us know anything new (facial shaders), and at worse it's a great prank.
ps, no disrespect, but surly their must be some kind of better proof you can give us? Plain ticket stub? Pictures? You must have taken some...What did the Dev look like? Just give me something to say "ahh, I stand corrected" You don't have to, but why not?
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1. we have hardly any official knowledge to how many sliders the char gen has. i could beleive it after trying facegen.
2. the first part of the game is in a dungeon, you cannot do anything outdoors until you finish the first dungeon!! hense no talk of outdoors except for ONE person from x05 that even the devs were suprized about making it out.
3. he probably knows most of the info about the previous game because he had a dev explaining things on the spot.
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post Yesterday, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(pcgeek86 @ Oct 14 2005, 12:18 AM)
That's your choice. The rest of us are free to believe or disbelieve the story.
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thanks for adding interesting dialect as to why you beleive him.
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Fvash
post Yesterday, 11:20 PM
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I know you said not to worry, but I can't help give second-thought to the game freezing.

You mentioned almost all the games there did this, but it just brings up bad memories of Morrowind and not saving...

I have faith, though.
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Silver_Dragon
post Yesterday, 11:21 PM
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Why would the devs remove a large portion of the weapons just because they wheren't "popular"? Their entire line of thinking is seriously ****ed up. Lets take this important feature out because its not "fun". Lets take out important role playing throwing weapons that are essential to the stealth classes to focus on a retarded cosmetic pretty bow system. Lets combine skills so the casual gamers will know what character to make. Lets use the same crappy linear main plot set up again, only this time make it shorter "cause statistics show people like short games!!!!1" Lets completely alienate our long time fanbase. Spears and all the other pole weapons they most likely removed are important for role playing games. It adds more variety to the weapons and allows you to role play more characters. You can all call removing a ton of weapons and merging a lot of important skills "balancing" or "an improvment", or whatever you want to say to defend the devs, but I call it dumbing down. I'm really disappointed in Bethesda. I'll probably still buy it, but no feature they added makes up for the stuff they messed up. I'd take the weapons and old skills over havok and improved graphics any day. The combat system doesn't sound all that much better either. You can manually block now and it has more cosmetic sword animations. Big freaking deal. Thats not "building a new system from the ground up" like they said they did. They might as well take the beast races out as well, because theres little point to them when the weapons that go with them are removed. And whats this crap about not being able to have facial hair and beards? What the hell? I'm beginning to think RPG Codex was right about you guys.

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post Yesterday, 11:21 PM
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OMFG!! NO SPEARS!?!?! I'M NOT BUYING IT!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
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post Yesterday, 11:21 PM
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i've got a question for the OP:


when you're creating your character's face, does moving one slider back and fourth make other sliders move around, or is each slider completely independant?

i downloaded the facegen demo, and when you move any given slider in the facial features menu, a lot of other sliders move to accomodate any change you make to the selected slider. i hope it's not the same in the game.
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post Yesterday, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(Mr. Cliff Racer @ Oct 13 2005, 11:20 PM)
Believe that once again we have another piece of information publicly available? That was my whole point, nothing new.

Look, I'm not trying to rain down here, but for cryin' out loud, take a look at your email bulk folder. This wouldn't be the first time someone's pulled a stunt like this.

When people start making claims like "their are no spears, I know that for sure, I was their", and wrap it around some miracle story about being whisked away to NYC for some dream vacation...Like i said at first, am I the only one who finds this suspect????
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No you probably aren't, but if you're going to [censored] about it, take it to PM or e-mail .... let the rest of us read. sheesh
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pcgeek86
post Yesterday, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(EmuMaster2002 @ Oct 13 2005, 11:21 PM)
OMFG!! NO SPEARS!?!?! I'M NOT BUYING IT!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
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*sigh*?
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post Yesterday, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(pcgeek86 @ Oct 13 2005, 10:10 PM)
Yeah but if it's too difficult, that could be really frusturating ... I hate it when you absolutely can't get past part of any game just because they make it too hard.
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It's not TOO hard. Remember, this is the first time I've ever played an ES game, so I think that had something to do with my deaths. Plus, I was sort of rushing through the game (not being as careful as I would normally) because I wanted to see more of the game.
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post Yesterday, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(Mr. Cliff Racer @ Oct 13 2005, 11:20 PM)
Believe that once again we have another piece of information publicly available? That was my whole point, nothing new.

Look, I'm not trying to rain down here, but for cryin' out loud, take a look at your email bulk folder. This wouldn't be the first time someone's pulled a stunt like this.

When people start making claims like "their are no spears, I know that for sure, I was their", and wrap it around some miracle story about being whisked away to NYC for some dream vacation...Like i said at first, am I the only one who finds this suspect????
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Only thing i found suspect, was the no instant kill stealth.
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post Yesterday, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(Silver_Dragon @ Oct 13 2005, 11:21 PM)
Why would the devs remove a large portion of the weapons just because they wheren't "popular"? Their entire line of thinking is seriously ****ed up. Spears and all the other pole weapons they most likely removed are important for role playing games. It adds more variety to the weapons and allows you to role play more characters. You can all call removing a ton of weapons and marging a lot of important skills "balancing" or "an improvment", or whatever you want to say to defend the devs, but I call it dumbing down. I'm really disappointed in Bethesda. I'll probably still buy it, but no feature they added makes up for the stuff they messed up. I'd take the weapons and old skills over havok and improved graphics any day. The combat system doesn't sound all that much better either. You can manually block now and it has more cosmetic sword animations. Big freaking deal. Thats not "building a new system from the ground up" like they said they did. They might as well take the beast races out as well, because theres little point to them when the weapons that go with them are removed. And whats this crap about not being able to have facial hair and beards? What the hell?
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Someone's a bit nit-picky huh? Just stop complaining about a game you haven't even played yet ...
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post Yesterday, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(pcgeek86 @ Oct 14 2005, 12:18 AM)
That's your choice. The rest of us are free to believe or disbelieve the story.
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Aww come on Moderators...thumbs up or thumbs down....two men enter...one man leaves...two men enter...one man leaves......two men enter...one man leaves.....I don't believe it...no reliable sources in it..... no dev names?? The real truth is...he skipped the show altogether and spent the rest of the trip in a hash bar.. :goodjob:
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post Yesterday, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(Mr. Cliff Racer @ Oct 14 2005, 12:20 AM)
Believe that once again we have another piece of information publicly available? That was my whole point, nothing new.

Look, I'm not trying to rain down here, but for cryin' out loud, take a look at your email bulk folder. This wouldn't be the first time someone's pulled a stunt like this.

When people start making claims like "their are no spears, I know that for sure, I was their", and wrap it around some miracle story about being whisked away to NYC for some dream vacation...Like i said at first, am I the only one who finds this suspect????
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I cannot claim to know whether or not this is completely true. However, I think you should at least read through his posts at the other forum. He provided a link in his original post.

If we have indeed been suckered, at least it was a good read.
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post Yesterday, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(Grahf84 @ Oct 14 2005, 05:22 PM)
Only thing i found suspect, was the no instant kill stealth.
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I didn't find that suspect bevause there is no locational damage, it makes sense if you think about it. Stealth only multiplies the damage done by a percentage, I think that system works in any RPG.
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