October 5, 1984

Globe, Arizona

Aka is here.

“Good evening, Aka. Where is soul Ray?”

Soul Ray stands with God.

Yes, we see thy need, and we shall answer in this manner and in this way. Glory be the name of the Lord, thy God; glory be the name of His children forever and ever.

And we shall tell you the story of the stream that could have been.

For once, in a valley, the Lord [moved] past the land, that a spring did flow into the land. And the Lord did look upon this place in the land and say, “FOR HERE I SHALL PUT A KIVA OF THE SPRING. AND THE SPRING SHALL BECOME HOLY, AND THE WATER SHALL BECOME PURE.”

Now, in the beginning, when the first person came to the spring and began to find the healing qualities of the spring, they went forth to tell their people. And their people told other people, and they made long pilgrimage[s] to give thanks unto the Lord, and to receive a small amount of the water.

Now, with those who came, who were non-believers, yet the water was there, and it was to be used. And in the use of it they soon found that it had healing qualities. And so they too began to believe. And the spring, hearing the belief, and the kiva of the spring_, hearing the praise, became happy and joyful, and did give praise unto the Lord for such a fine spring.

And then times changed, and the lands about it became barren and hard. And soon people no longer journeyed there. Time passed, and the kiva of the spring grew sad, yet continued with its day-to-day chore, but it was no longer a hard chore to maintain the flow of the water, to maintain the energy of the spring because there was no one there to take from it. It became more and more so, until the kiva of the spring was nothing more than lazy energy that dwelt in the water.

And people came back and they found it. And they put their faith and hope in it. And some days the kiva began to waken, began to laze its laziness, began to produce the energy necessary to produce this beautiful spring. But not quite. For the kiva had no longer opened itself unto God, and allowed the energy to flow in, for it was lazy and had forgotten how.

But there were those who believed, and their belief was so strong, that they showed the kiva the way.

And the Lord, God, looked upon it and said, “WHAT WAS IN THE BEGINNING SHALL SO IT BE NOW.” And so, the full healing was restored.

Now we say to you, if the Lord, God, in His making of the Earth, brought forth, in the keeping of things, a goddess − and this goddess transformed herself into woman − and in doing so, received the Lord, her God, and from them came forth the one you know as Jesus − if these things are so and can be so, has the day of miracles ceased? Has the day of wonderment ceased? Have we only to look for death and dissolution in the days ahead? We say to you, no. Believe and your belief shall be returned.

You have other questions, ask.

“Thank you, Aka. [2-30-2] asks, ‘This week students at Brown University have petitioned for a ballot on a proposal which, if passed, would force the university pharmacy to consider stocking and providing cyanide pills for the students so that they might kill themselves quickly, rather than dying slowly in case they survived a nuclear attack. Please comment on suicide in general, and this incident in particular. Thank you.’”

First we shall answer your question. If a person is subject to great pain and harm, it is not necessary to be a martyr. An unavoidable death of this type, it would be better, by far, to use what you would know as cyanide. It would not be looked upon the Earth, and that of the Earth, as a wrongful deed.

Yet, we say to you, as in most things, could it not be used wrongly?

I say to you, even though this is possible, there are many ways to kill a person. There are many ways for a person to kill themselves. And most of them are less painful than cyanide. And they are but abountiful [abundant] on most campuses.

I would say, allow it to be there, that freedom of choice may be taken.

When you see a light in the sky, and it is upon a dark night, and it is a great orange and red light streaming through the skies, who is to say whether it is just the moon rising, or a nuclear attack? When would you take the cyanide? At what point?

At what point is death inevitable? As long as there is life, there is hope.

We say to you, for those who wish to die, let them. For it takes more courage to live than to die.

But how does the Lord, God, look upon suicide as such? We will say to you, if a person had terminal cancer and a part of their organs were eaten away, and there was no hope for them, and they took their life by any means, their passing is but passing from one doorway to another, for they have taken an act in full consciousness, not to escape life, but to start life all over. If it is done in that spirit, then it is no different than any other death.

We have told you before that all is necessary for the removal of a karma is to recognize that which you have done and admit it. This is also true with suicide. And the knowledge to know what they have done is a sin against God and man. Then God seeks no punishment, and why should man?

We say to you, every day in this country and many other[s], you kill one another by the consumption of alcohol and your driving of different vehicles. You kill yourself a little day-by-day with the use of drugs and alcohol; that is suicide. It is a worse suicide than the person who does it all at once.

It is like the person who rides in a car who has a seat belt, but will not fasten it. That is suicide. A little discomfort, is it not worth the joy and love of your loved ones?

You have other questions, ask.

“Thank you, Aka. [16-491-1] asks, ‘Where do I go to get my health?’“

We do not see this. We find not of this. Ask another question.

“Thank you, Aka. [16-491-2…Tucson], ‘I would like to know more about my daughter, S_____, who she is, and about her relationship with myself and R_____....’”

Yes, we see thy need and that which you ask for. (Sigh.) You asked for information which does not concern you. You violate the freedom of choice of another; this we will not assist you with.

We say unto you, if you ask the Lord, God, for guidance, you shall receive that from both sides to guide you. If you have lost your arm, and you ask for help in using one arm in the place of two, do you think that He would send someone who has never lost their arm, and not learned to use one in the place of two? This is how these guides are chosen. You choose them. You ask for them.

You have other questions, ask.

“Thank you, Aka. [16-491-3] asks, ‘Will my wife recover completely?’”

Once again you ask a question [for] another, but we shall answer in this manner. She will recover according to her choice.

You have other questions, ask.

“Thank you, Aka. [16-491-4…Albuquerque, New Mexico] asks, ‘Should I take the course?’”

Yes, we find this. Yes.

You have other questions.

“Thank you, Aka. [16-491-5…Homestead, Florida], ‘What have I been and done in my past lives that will help me now, and what is the [debt?] in my future?’”

Yes, we see thy need, and we have before us the body, the soul, the spirit, and the immortal body. And we find this good.

And we should say unto you, there are times and there are half times. You have lived in both.

But the time that affected you most, and brought you here was a time after the crucifixion when the Christian movement was great. Constantine had called forth a convention that rule[s] be laid down for the Christian church. You, as an advisor to Constantine, even though you believed in Christianity, knew that he did not. This bothered you greatly, for you felt he had built a church for the sole purpose of controlling a world. Yet, the other part of you said, “Does not the good outweigh the bad?” You argued with Constantine, not once but many times, yet you stood by his side when most of his countrymen were against him, in building Constantinople, for you soon found that it was a learned center, that some of the highest-learned scholars of the world were flocking to it. There you became a scholar, yourself.

We say unto you, you are here this time at the beginning. If the belief of mankind is to be altered and changed once again, and this time is near, and they shall be brought together as flocks [are loaded], and the molding of man in peace can be made possible, this is why you are here. For once again you argue with yourself.

Above all times that you have lived and not lived, you are all parts of all these. This means that sometimes that the human being, the human spirit, human soul, as long as it clings together and becomes whole, and [it] goes forward, it is advancing, it is learning; it is going back to the Lord, God, in that manner. You have this choice. And once again we shall not take it from you. Remember, the flight of the Eagle.

Now we say unto all of you, soul Ray grows very tired.

But we say − for those who have ears to listen, let them listen; for those who have eyes to see, let them see − [that] the land is changing, and so are the people. Do not forget the flowers at your feet.

Awaken soul Ray from his slumber.

[Note: Numbers are substituted for names, birth dates, and addresses to respect privacy.

This transcript was compared to the audio recording for accuracy.]

Copyright © 1984 by Ray Elkins, Globe, Arizona.