June 12, 1970
“[Is Ray all right], Aka?” [Ray’s wife, Margaret, asks.]
Yes --
“Is he safe?”
Soul Ray stands with God.
Now, we
have told you before of whence man came.
Now we
shall tell you -- as we have said before, that man’s soul shall be as a ladder,
and with man [in] his free choice, he may either climb up or down this ladder.
Now, we
should tell thee of what thy call, karma.
But
first, we should answer a question which has been in all of thy minds. You ask
from whence we came. And we should say to you, as has been said before, that we
come as messengers, and therefore, we are not great. But God is great.
And thy ask of this soul, Ray, in which we come through -- one
moment, please.
Yes,
now that is better; now all souls are in accord.
And as thy ask of soul Ray, “And where shall his place be?” And thy ask why we do not bear thee great gifts?
Yet, we
give the gift greater than all to thee, the gift of God and His kingdom.
And in
His kingdom, where do we fit?
And
this we should say -- for we are not important, only now to God, as all men are important to God. And we speak of men as three, for without
the spirit, the soul [in] the man, thy have nothing.
For if
we gave soul Ray great jewels, great [wealth, riches], then he would be great
in the eyes of man, but less great in the eyes of God. For
even as this finishes, he shall enter the
So, thy ask, “Could this be his subconscious mind?”
Nay.
“Then
could this be, as thy would call it, his super-conscious
mind?”
Nay.
For the
road that we walk upon is the same road as the road by the
Can thy
understand this?
“Yes,
that answers a number of questions.”
Now, we
would talk, as thy would call it, thy karma. As man is
born and born again, think thee of Christ, of Jesus, and what he did say: “I
have come not to destroy the works of Moses, not to destroy the commandments,
but to -- I have come not to destroy what has been before, only to make clear
in the temple of God, which is man, that God should not be forsaken. Then think
thee, as John the Baptist was Isaiah, then who would have been the physical
body of Christ? [See Mark 4:21-32.
As thy are born upon this earth, thy are born with free choice,
for before birth thy know of the knowledge which has been behind. Therefore,
for the life in the future, look from whence thy came.
Did not
Jesus say, “Fear not, for what can man but do but kill thy body? He cannot kill
thy soul. He cannot kill thy spirit. Only God may do this.”
But
only man himself may destroy the spirit. And by destroying the spirit, is he
not but a lost soul? Has he nowhere to go, but to search and search again and
never find what he searches for? For he may never, then, enter the
Yes.
And as
he looks, he should see not. For as thy would call them, hell, man will make,
because remember, only God cares for thy spirit, thy
soul, and thy man. As thy would call him -- the “devil?”
-- all he has then is a lost soul. And what use has he for nothing?
Then,
we would think that if thy would remember the works of
God, and follow -- and follow [of] the path of God, what has been buried shall
be uncovered. Where there was darkness there shall be light forever and ever.
And
there is thy karma.
And
there is one among you who says, “Should I forsake my church that I belong to?”
Nay. For does not our Father have many mansions?
Worship
your God in thy own way. For we would say, it is better to worship God in an
open field than to worship God, and not mean it. When thy pray, should thy
recite something that someone else has thought, that means nothing to you?
Too
often, man forgets that God loves thee.
Too
often, man would think, “Should I build a temple of material things to God and
buy His love?”
For we would say to you, did not Jesus
go to the temple in Jerusalem and cast out there the money lenders, and drive
from the temple the animals who were there [for] to be sold. And did he not say
to them, “Destroy this temple, and I should build it back in three days?” Then
what did Jesus mean when he said of this? [See Mark 11:15-24, Luke 18:31-34, and John 3:1-18,
For the
Each of
you, in your own way, are God’s children. And He loves
all of thee.
When thy speak to thy Father, do not bow and scrape to Him. Walk
up to Him with love in thy heart, and speak what is in thy heart. And God will
listen. If thy speak what others have said, that meant
something to them, but nothing to you; so therefore, your prayer would be
false.
Now, thy ask -- one moment, please.
Yes.
Now thy ask, “What shall be the work of [the] disciples?”
And we
should say, build thee a temple in each man for God, and therefore, thy will
prepare a way for his coming.
For as we
have said before, there will be a thousand years of peace upon this earth. But
think thee not of the years as they count them, think thee not; [but] the years
as God counts them.
We have
spoke before of the day of the Cherub, and therefore,
we say to you, it is here. If thy doubt our coming, look to the east from [whence]
we came, and there, for all to see -- proof of our coming.
Now,
there are many questions on thy mind.
“Yes,
Aka, we have many questions tonight. You have spoken
of ‘the time of the Cherub.’ Does this have any connection with the child that
is to come? Is the child already here?”
The
child shall be known to thee when the time is right. For we
protect this child, and God protects this child.
“Is
that what you meant by ‘the time of the Cherub?’”
Nay. “The time of the Cherub,” think thee of thy Cherub -- and
the Cherub shall be the highest angel in God’s kingdom. For they have come to
many parts of thy earth. Think thee this -- as we have said before that Aka was
born at the same time as soul Ray, therefore, could he not be born in five
places upon this earth?
But
yet, thy Cherub shall be known to each of you in it’s
own way. And we say to you, look to the east, for there shall be the light of
God.
Remember,
for those who look, we would say this. The eyes are the light of man. And for
those who look and cannot see, then therefore, there is no light. But think
thee not we speak of a blind man, for a blind man sees the light also. For those
who look to the east, and [_______] not want to see, then they shall not see.
And those who listen and cannot hear, then they can not hear. For our message is for those who may see and hear, and want to
hear. And the light in the east and the Cherub shall only be there for
those who believe in God, our Savior.
We must
ask for permission now, if thy would wait. One moment,
please.
Yes. Yes.
We
would say to you this -- the child has been born.
Yes. Yes.
And thy say to us, “Therefore, if the child is born, why cannot we
see him and worship him now?”
Be
patient. For in God’s plan the time is not yet now, but soon, for we must
prepare the way. And therefore, [cough] -- and therefore, when the time is
right, our Lord shall tell us, and we shall tell thee, for all things will be
known to you in time.
Now,
thy have another question, ask.
“We
have many
more questions tonight, Aka. Was this child, the one
that has been referred to, [then] was it born in 1957?”
The
date is close, very close.
Ask thy
next question.
“When
we last talked with you, you told [4-6-70-002] how to purify his drinking water
and the water for his family. However, you described a similar method to us;
you had told us to put sand in the baffles. Was he also to use sand?”
(Chuckle). Sometimes, in the translation from our
plane to yours – (chuckle) yes, it is sometimes confusing.
Yes.
But we
would say this. In the first baffle, place crushed rock; better of granite for
the first baffle. Of the second baffle, sand, and then again, crushed rock. Can
thy understand this?
“Yes,
then do we alternate?”
Can thy
understand this?
“Yes, Aka.” [4-6-70-002
answers.]
Now,
there is a question in the mind of [4-20-70-001]. His first question we
would answer this way. Only after the reading did these things happen as they
did. We warned you earlier of caution. Remember, we can only suggest. You have
your own free will to be born again or to choose the direction that thy would take upon this earth plane.
Now,
thy next question, “What can be done now?” We would tell you -- nay, we would
say this then. You have been offered a job already and you are thinking this over.
Soon you shall make a trip, and there you shall be offered another job. And
when you return you shall be offered a third position.
Now you
say, “Of which of these shall I choose?” Then we should answer you this way. Be
thy own mind. Make thy own decision. Do not chase after the leader goat, for may not this take thee to a slaughter? Therefore, of the
positions that shall be offered to you, the one in thy travels would benefit
thee the best materially. The one that thy are
thinking of would benefit thee both spiritually and materially.
Now, we
have a third, “[In] which should it go?” For the third, as man, you will have
to make up your own mind on this one.
Now,
you have another question. You ask, again, of this child. And we would answer
you the same way. We can see no change there. Remember that other parties have
free will. Remember that God does not want one drug to Him, but wants one that
would walk to Him of his own free will.
Now,
you ask for your friend.
Yes.
Usually
this cannot be granted, because permission from the soul involved here has not
been given. But -- one moment, please.
Yes.
Yes --
It has been suggested that this information shall be given.
First,
the soul involved is highly infected with the chemical that was sprayed not far
from here, in [its] seepage into your water. [Editor’s note: Around that time, the U.S.
Forest Service had sprayed Agent Orange, which was used in forest defoliation
in Viet Nam, in an experiment to create more water runoff from the mountains
near Globe, Arizona.]
We also
find here an acid, a very strong acid in the body.
Yes.
We also
find that this has attacked of the whole nervous system and caused a very
irregular growthage in this area.
Yes.
At this
time we would suggest that this soul be given -- first of all, the changing his
drinking water, then a very, heavier bombardment of antibiotics. The physician
in attendance at this time has knowledge of this.
Second,
at this time, [________ fields] shall be necessary for a short period here.
(Sigh.)
One moment. (Sigh.)
If, if
this soul could at this time be given of the sage tea, of the root of the sage,
in quantities of four ounces three times a day, this might help to neutralize
this area.
Yes. Yes.
We also
find other problems here. (Sigh.) We find that the liver and kidney area -- at
this time if they could be relieved by what is known at this time as a kidney
machine, therefore, helping to relieve some of the poison being thrown off in
this area, this would help.
Yes.
Yes --
we also find – (sigh) oh, no.
We
would suggest before we continue, at this point that this whole group should
pray for this soul. Each pray in his own way, that the words may mean something
to you. Pray for this soul. Pray for the deliverance of this soul. And we shall
pray. [Note:
There is about 30 seconds of silence as they pray.]
Yes.
Now,
thy have other questions.
“Thanks.
[4-20-70-001] asks that, the message that was given to him in a different
language, what language was that and where can he go to have it interpreted?”
The
interpretation of this language is in himself. But if
he should know it, and cannot interpret it, then, in the university, in
Now,
now we should say this -- look thee for Matthew, for he is close. And this
shall be the task of soul Peter.
Yes.
And
Bartholomew; this soul is close too.
Now thy
have other questions in thy mind. And for [7-18-70-001]’s question (chuckle), we would answer you this way. In
the time of Christ, remember, there was dancing, there was song. There was good
fellowship there. You do not have to forsake thyself, thy inner self, to be
with God, for He is all around you. All you must do is believe.
Yes.
And for
the soul that [4-6-70-003] asks
about, (sigh) we would answer you this way. Be patient. All is not over.
Now,
for Peter’s wife [5-21-70-003], we
would say this. Do what is in thy mind. This is a personal thing, and
therefore, we shall not discuss it in front of others. But do what is in thy
mind, and it should be right. Can thy understand this?
“I
think so.” [5-21-70-003 answers.]
Now, if
thy have other questions, ask them; our time grows short.
“We are
all preparing to take trips. Is there any [word against], or anything that any
of us should do to take special precautions in our trips?”
Yes,
for the [4-20-70-001] family, it
would be suggested that they purchase a spare tire and wheel for their trailer.
And, do not let any of the children ride in the trailer at any time, or any
grown up.
For the
[4-6-70-002] family, thy should beware there too.
For
soul Ray’s family, we shall be there.
And to
all we would say, if thy would carry the thought of us
with thee, then we shall be there also.
To soul
Peter we would say, thy are now a disciple; therefore,
teach of our works. But remember, in thy teaching, do never denounce any faith;
do never say they may not reach God in the way they are going. Teach of us. Teach
of God. But first and foremost,
remember that if we are to prepare a way for his coming and for the
enlightenment of the soul, and therefore, of the man, you cannot do this with
destroying what has been, only building what is there already. Can you
understand this?
“Yes, Aka.”
Now,
speak thee, soul [4-3-70-002],
what is in thy mind.
“[J__]
has asked if there’s anything about money which should be known at this time?”
This
shall come later; speak thee what is in thy mind.
“I
would rather not.”
I
think thy should
for thy peace of mind.
Then we
should answer you. As we have told you before, we have chosen you, and each of
the disciple’s wives, therefore, to work with them. Therefore, as [my] mate of
soul Ray, think thee of God, of the mental block that we have placed there in
the mind that others may not enter. Therefore, only thyself
may enter. But even we cannot enter without thy permission.
Does
this answer thy question?
“Yes.”
Now,
we should talk of soul [4-13-70-002]. (Sigh.)
Yes.
We have
soul [4-13-70-002]. The first
thing thy have asked -- the one, the plant that thy have now, is not the same
as Jerusalem artichoke. That plant may be purchased as you are thinking of it,
right here locally. Therefore, buy Jerusalem artichoke and feed it to the
child. We can only tell you -- can only suggest to you. It is up to you to either
take our advice or reject it. As we have said before, if this is not done, and
done soon, (sigh) then take the [ ] child
to a doctor and start her on a mild insulin. But when she has started, this
insulin, the dosage shall vary.
Now, we
have suggested before that the child is rapidly developing. We have suggested
to you that, suggest to this child of the waiting, not of the sin of the body.
We can
also see – yes -- we would suggest that the child go back to the eating, not of
the black olive, but of the green olive. It has also been suggested before –
Yes -- this
can wait.
We see
the child has taken a fall within the last week. She is complaining of
headaches. The reason for this is a pinched nerve in the back area, in the
fourth vertebrae. This should be taken care of. Also, the child, we see, has a
dental problem; this should be taken care of too.
We
should take another reading on this soul at a different time. This is all at
this time.
We
would suggest that the child be taken to a good osteopathic doctor, or (sigh) –
yes -- a good osteopathic doctor.
We should
also suggest that there are others, children of thy family, who need help.
What
other questions would thy ask?
“No
others.”
Therefore,
we are growing very weak now. It would be suggested at this time that soul Ray
should be awakened. It would also be suggested that as we would come to you, if
all are in accord, it is easier for us to come through.
“Relax,
Ray.”
Yes.
Think
thee of the day [and] the Great Pyramid. Think thee of the bird which took
flight. And from this, the house of Abraham and the house of Isaiah were built.
[See Exodus 13:20-22,
Think
thee being of the nine hundred and fortieth [940th]. And soon – yes
-- very soon it shall be uncovered.
Yes, we
have a problem here.
Yes. Yes.
Yes, we
have [4-6-70-003]’s body and soul
here.
Yes.
Yes, we
see -- [Note: The dog starts barking as the front door
opens.]
Yes
-- we see this birth of this soul.
Yes.
At this
time, this soul is not of the worship of One. As she
leaves Atlantis, she is not a she but a he. She carries with her great wealth.
Yes.
And now
she would make war against Ra-Tai --
[Note: a noisy airplane is flying over, making it hard to hear Aka.]
And
therefore, she would make war against Ra-Tai.
Yes.
For we
see the descendant of a cat here.
Yes.
But as
she approaches the temple of knowledge, there is one she would meet. And as he
met the disciple [in] the temple of beauty, he saw great favor in her. And
there, they went together, and there to hear the
priest speak.
And as
he spoke, the light came to thee, and thy knelt and said, “I worship thee, oh,
Ra-Tai.”
And Ra-Tai
said to thee, “Nay, for I am nothing. For look into thy heaven, and look all
around thee, and there thy shall find the One to
worship.” And Ra-Tai said, “Come with us to the temple of beauty and there we
shall remove the traces of the cat. But so that the memory of these days will
be there forever, your memory will remain in thy mind for all of thy planes.
Therefore, thy will put thy cat in its proper place, and the heart of man in
his proper place.”
Yes.
Now, we
see this soul hovering again, in what thy call
Yes.
On this
plane, the year was sixteen hundred B.C. -- 1647. And therefore, thy are a trainer of animals. Again, thy
would befriend and walk with thy cat.
And there, thy came to know a beggar. And thy said to thy
beggar, “Who art thou?”
And the
beggar said to thee, “Do you not remember me from before?”
And you
remembered.
Now, we
see this soul again in the year -- these reincarnations are really not
important this time, because they are all the same.
We do
not see a rise again until the year 1736. Now -- this is 1736 A. C. Now we see this
soul again – yes -- a very psychic soul, a very confused soul -- therefore, has
forgotten from [whence] she came.
Yes --
we see this soul born on this plane. And
we would say -- [Note: the dog barks
while the door opens and closes several times as some guests leave.]
We would say thy are born as
a woman; then be thy husband’s wife. Use thy psychic ability only for the
betterment of man. If thy use it wrong, then thy would
forget again from which thy came.
Can you
understand this?
“Yes.”
[4-6-70-003 answers.]
Now you
must awaken soul Ray.
“Thank
you, Aka, I would ask….”
[Editor’s note: Numbers are substituted for names to
respect privacy.
This transcript was compared to the audio recording
for accuracy.]
Copyright © 1970 by A. Ray Elkins, Globe,