ISO/TC23/SC19/WORKING GROUP 3: IDENTIFICATION

Present: [x] Apologies [A]

Status: Representative WG3 [R], observer [O], representative TWG [T]

[x] Grigory Anisimov [Russia,Gosstand.] [R]

[x]Rudolf Artmann [Germany] [R]

[x] Kostas Aslanidis Germany, TI] [T]

[x] Douglas Batchelor [UK, BSI] [R]

[ ] Patrick Biront [Belgium] [R]

[x] Kurt Bischof [Austria, Philips] [T]

[ ] Olivier Blanchard [France] [R]

[x] Jeroen Bolscher [Netherlands, TI] [T]

[x] Tony Britt [Australia] [R]

[ ] Marc Buchet ["Fecava"]

[ ] Gary Burch [New Zealand] [R]

[x] David Clemons [Canada] [R]

[ ] Dian Clune [Australia] [O ]

[x] Wayne Culberth [USA, Infopet] [O]

[x] Robert Cooper [USA] [R]

[ ] John Costello [Ireland]

[x] Ted Donelan [Australia, Vet As] [R]

[x] Monica.Emmenegger [Switzerland,snv] [R]

[x] Wim Eradus . [Netherlands], secr WG3

[x] Torben Elmedal [Denmark,DS,DH] [R]

[A] Jan-Erik Eriksson [Sweden] [O]

[ ] Brigitte Frappat [France] [R]

[x] Hans Ulrich Fritsch [Germany, Diehl] [T]

[x] Richard Fry [GB, AVID plc] [O]

[A] Rony Geers [Belgium] [R]

[ ] Remy Gelle ["AFNOR"]

[x]Angelo Ghislandi [Italy] [R]

[ ] Neil Hammerschmitt [USA] [O]

[ ] P.Hassan-Zade ["Datamars"] [O]

[x] Erling Haave [Sweden, Alfa L.] [R]

[x] Johan Hogen Esch [Netherl., Nedap] [R]

[x] Even Jahren [Norway,Biocont] [R]

[x] Mans Jansen [Netherlands] [R]

[x[ Kees van ‘t Klooster [Netherlands [O]

[ ] Olivier Lemarignier [France]

[ ] Chester Lennard [Australia] [R]

[x] Joseph .Masin [UK, Trovan] [O]

[x] Zeke Mejia [USA] [R]

[ ] Keith Myhre [USA] [R]

[x] Katsunari Nakamura [Japan] [O]

[x] Fred Nind [UK, Fecava,

[ ] Pekka Olkinuora [Finland]

[x] Heinrich Pirkelmann [Germany] [R]

[ ] Epi Postma [Netherlands] [R]

[ ] Richard Robinson [Canada]

[ ] Helmut Ruppert [Germany, Diehl] [T]

[x] Archie Sains [UK, BSI] [R]

[x] Lionel Sheridan (New Zealand] [R]

[ ] John Shepherd [Canada]

[ ] Rodny Stafford [Ireland]

[ ] Inga-Lill Solberg [Sweden] [R]

[x] Peter Stegmaier [Switzerland] [T]

[x] Eiliv Svalastoga [Denmark] [R]

[ ] Rolf Thesslin [Sweden] [O]

[x] George Tucker [USA] [R]

[ ] Alva Uddin [org FIFE] [O]

[ ] Ulf Uddman [Sweden] [O]

[x] Wim Wismans [Netherlands] chairm.WG3

[x] Koji Yokokawa [Japan] [R]

The agenda is accepted without changes

3. Approval of the minutes of the last meeting in Oslo, Feb 9+10, 1998.

The minutes of the last meeting are accepted without modifications.

Referring to these minutes, no remarks are made.

4. Minutes of meeting SC19 in Berlin

Mr.Wismans reports on the last meeting of SC19 in Berlin on March 12, 1998 (see doc. WG3/N193).

South Africa requested on animal presence warning systems within vehicles. This request is forwarded to WG3 for examination.

The delegations of Russia and new Zealand requested a revision of ISO 11784/11785, because, due to their view, a number of problems are not yet solved. It has been indicated that for the revision of existing ISO standards the procedures described in ISO Directives, part I, shall met.

SC19 decided to propose ICAR to be appointed as the Registration Agency for the assignment of manufacturer codes.

SC19 decided to approve a liaison between ISO-IEC/JTC1/SC31 and ISO/TC23/SC19 at the level of WG3.


5. Chairmanship of WG3.

Mr Wismans has indicated to end up as chairman of WG3 by 1999. As conveyner, the Netherlands, has appointed Mr. Kees van ‘t Klooster as his successor. Mr. Van ‘t Klooster is with IMAG-DLO as head of the department Technology of Animal Farming. He also is leader of the IDEA project in the Netherlands. His address is IMAG-DLO, Postbus 43, NL-6700 AA Wageningen, tel. +31 317 476550. The date of change will be arranged between Mr. Wismans and Van 't Klooster and will take place the latest when the proposal of the NWT is prepared by WG3.

6. Proposal of the TWG about the NWI (Mr Jansen).

Mr. Jansen presents the status of the efforts of the TWG regarding the NWI. The progress reports of the TWG and the sheets have been filed as documents WG3/N197 and WG3/N201 respectively. He reports that within the TWG agreement has been reached about the transmission protocols and the methods for authentication. The extended standards will be as much as possible an open standard, being compatible with the existing ISO 11784/11785 standards. Protocols for transmission and for authentication must still be worked out in detail and brought together in a draft extended standard. It is decided to convert the sheets to Word 6/95 format for distribution to WG3 and TWG members with e-mail connection.

In practice, important aspects are the price/performance ratio of these advantages. The proposed security measures aim to make fraud more difficult. The costs to break the security measures must be made high enough. On the other hand, if a high security level is needed, more means for identification, especially biometric ones, will be used.

Up to the mid-level security, implementation can be done within the possibilities of the existing technologies, at almost no extra hardware costs. High level security needs extra "silicon" (substantial more chip area) and requires more complex logistics. It is up to the user to choose the optimum between security and extra cost. More delegates stress that the way of presentation of these security measures to the users is very important.

Mr. Clemons makes the following overview:

Only with a good local infrastructure the lowest level of security will be feasible.

If the market should not be mature for these applications now, it will be in the very near future.

The attendant manufacturers agree to give presentations of the described proposals for improved security at the next WG3 meeting

Apart from the authentication facilities, the Read/Write multipage applications are expected to become to most important ones.

The "air interface" is the basic requirement for the advanced applications and will therefore first be developed and submitted for standardisation. Based on this air interface, a security protocol can be developed as a first application.

The WG3 accepts the presented work done in the TWG but wishes that the possibilities for the users are worked out further by WG3.

In order to be able to submit a working draft to SC19 by October 1, 1999, concrete proposals, developed by the TWG, should be put on table at the next meeting in April 1999 and the finalised working draft must be ready before the meeting in September 1999. Working examples should be ready for demonstrations by July 1, 1999.

After a short meeting, the TWG agrees to define the air interface, the type coding scheme, the command structure and 1 example of an application in the field of authentication by July 1, 1999. This is accepted by WG3.

8. The injection site of transponders

Mr. Nind presents his report "Recommended implantation sites for Microchip Transponders", filed as doc. WG3/N199. The listed sites are recommendations. FECAVA as organisation for pets seems not having reached consensus about the right injection places. Mr. Nind will contact them for more information. Also other international bodies should be inquired about this problem.

Members are asked to provide Mr. Nind with useful information concerning the injection place. Mr Nind will make a new version of his report with help of Mr Batchelor, Mr. Donelan and Mr. Clemons

9. Request of South Africa about electronic identification techniques to avoid collisions.

The South Africa request for a collision warning system, using ISO transponders has been discussed in the TWG and proved to be impossible, because of the too short reading distance (in general less than 1 m). SC19 will be informed about this result.

ICAR has released a discussion draft "Granting and use of a manufacturer code for ISO-compliant transponders", filed as doc. WG3/N202. ICAR is also in the process of developing a proposal for approval by laboratory and field tests, which will be discussed on the next meeting of the ICAR working group, spring 1999. This proposal for approval must be based on accepted injection sites. These tests will be developed in co-operation with FECAVA.

Besides IMAG-DLO and ISPRA as test centres it would be desirable to have one test centre in USA. The test centres have to work in mutual co-operation. Testing transponders, a practical problem is the use of suitable, independent readers, not origination from one of the manufacturers. IMAG-DLO has developed such a reader, while ISPRA is making cross-tests (transponder and reader are not originating from the same manufacturer). Important is that all involved test houses will use the same readers in the same way.

The remark is made that, even though these approval tests are very important for the market, they are not part of the ISO standards.