Session Start: Sun Oct 27 20:01:31 2002 Now talking in #abbydum Topic is ‘Duuuuum da Dum Dum!’ Set by ThreeDark on Sun Oct 27 20:02:23 Abdiel - welcome, welcome Ev - Ab, he’s been around for a couple of months sir. ThreeDark - VELCOMIN Ren - Guten tag! *waves* Juliane has joined #abbydum Abdiel - first of all, a few notices: don’t worry about continuing an answer after I ask another question. I will edit everything for cohesion later Abdiel - also, don't worry about grammar and spelling, I’ll fix those too. Bryn - Couple of months still means newbie. Ren - Been here for a year, though. Abdiel - also, if there’s anything you want to take out of the interview, let me know before you leave. Bryn - Man, I didn’t get any of these options or beforehand comments. Abdiel - also, to the peanut gallery: you can comment or ask questions, but I reserve the right to edit them out if they're dumb. Ren grins. Illumas[afk] has joined #abbydum ThreeDark - So that means a lot of silence from Evan and Sam Ev - I might as well leave now. crying. Ren - Awwww. Ev - (not really) Abdiel changes topic to ‘Looks like we’ve broken our Ren. Cleanup on Aisle 4.’ Abdiel - okay, ready for business? Ren - Yup yup. Abdiel - first of all, thanks for taking the time to come and chat with us today, Ren. Ren - Not a problem. Quite the ego-trip, really. Abdiel - You undoubtedly know my first question - which of your characters do you consider to be your ‘greatest success’, and why? Ren - By technical success, The Contortionist fits that bill. ThreeDark - Nathan asks one of the newest additions to the FPL. Ren - But, as for what I’m most satisfied by, I’d have to say Matilda. Abdiel - In what sense do you mean ‘technical’ success - wins? Abdiel - And what about Matilda makes her stand out for you? Ren - Yup, but I was never really satisfied by him. Ren - Matilda, on the other hand, fit what I had planned for her to a T. Ren - I can never help but feel I executed her without flaw. Ev - I thought the Contortionist actually came out better in the ‘fics rather than on the character sheet. Abdiel - What, to you, separates truly 'great' characters from merely ‘good’ ones? Ren - What separates them is what I like to call the ‘holy SHIT!’ factor. Abdiel - care to elaborate? Ren - Good ones, you can sit, and you can read, and feel like you've not wasted your time. Ren - GREAT ones, on the other hand, you have the nagging urge to read again, or learn more about. Ren - Because afterward, you sat and couldn’t help but let your jaw slack. Ren - Just a little. Abdiel - can you give us an example or two of each type? Ren - First off, The Chronomancer. Ev - (cheering) Ren - Oh GODS, The Chronomancer. Abdiel - (first or second edition) Ren - Second. Abdiel nods ThreeDark - The Adept has already infected this one, note to self must instill quiet. Bryn - Quiet with your White Wolf nonsense! Abdiel - he was referring to Media, actually Bryn feels significantly less cool for getting those references. ThreeDark - Bwahaha Ren - And as for the second, DANGER AUSTIN DANGER just managed to get me. Ren - I don’t know how. Ren - I’m not sure why. Ren - It just did. Bryn - No, Abby, trust me...I know what I’m talking about. *sigh* Abdiel - heh, alright. and an example or two for ‘Good’ characters? Ren - Rookie’s two current entries come to mind, actually. Redeemer and Legacy’s Allure, that's right. Ren - Coulda been good, had a nice concept, but he tripped on the execution somewhere. ThreeDark is only ever mentioned by people who know he’ll hurt them if they don't mention me otherwise. Rookie just eeked by. Abdiel has quit IRC (toffee.hub.eu.blitzed.org dope.se.eu.blitzed.org) Ren - Oh durnit. Ev - FREE FOR ALL Ren - Bah. Syd kicked me in the nuts. I’m still considering a Walking Man series. ThreeDark - And Syd was a Pie-ThreeDark Creation and STILL Sucked. As happens to all Pie-ThreeDark collabs. ThreeDark - It is sad. Ev - Who was your first love, Ren? Ren - ...I’m not answering that question. ‘Cause I was four and didn’t know better. Ev - Where did he touch you, son? Bryn - SHOW US ON THE DOLL WHERE THEY TOUCHED YOU, YOU CAN’T RUN FROM YOUR PAST ANYMORE Abdiel has joined #abbydum dope.se.eu.blitzed.org sets mode: +o Abdiel ThreeDark - WB Nate. Stay Abdiel - ... I never left. it was a split. Abdiel - [17:14] Abdiel - and an example or two for ‘Good’ characters? Abdiel - [17:17] *** Bryn has quit IRC (dope.se.eu.blitzed.org toffee.hub.eu.blitzed.org) Abdiel - [17:17] *** Ren has quit IRC (dope.se.eu.blitzed.org toffee.hub.eu.blitzed.org) Abdiel - [17:17] *** Ev has quit IRC (dope.se.eu.blitzed.org toffee.hub.eu.blitzed.org) Abdiel - [17:17] *** Illumas[afk] has quit IRC (dope.se.eu.blitzed.org toffee.hub.eu.blitzed.org) Abdiel - [17:17] *** ThreeDark has quit IRC (dope.se.eu.blitzed.org toffee.hub.eu.blitzed.org) Abdiel - [17:17] *** Juliane has quit IRC (dope.se.eu.blitzed.org toffee.hub.eu.blitzed.org) ThreeDark - I know I noticed how ‘Dope’ re-oped you Ev - Strange. Abdiel - anyway, I didn’t catch your answer(s) to that last question, Ren Ren - As for good, Rookie’s current entires. Legacy’s Allure and Redeemer. He didn’t pull them off as well as he could’ve. Abdiel - thanks ThreeDark - And then he Dissed me Ren - Syd kicking me in the nuts is not a dis. ThreeDark - (: Abdiel - So, what inspires you when you’re dreaming up ideas for characters, and what do you think forms the basis for a good character? Ren - I basically rob from anything that comes my way. ThreeDark - Bryn belly-dancing is not an acceptable answer Ren - ..... Ren - Moving on. Ev - (is inspired to write 1500-page novel) Abdiel notes refreshments are available in the lobby. Mostly big glasses of SHUT UP JUICE. Ev - That was odd. Abdiel - any particular sources that have had special influence on your works? ThreeDark - You heard the Man Bryn gets jiggy. Ren - Mostly crappy movies, it seems. Abdiel - such as? (work with me, here) ThreeDark - Elaboration is Key ThreeDark - Nate isn’t as sharp as he used to be. Ren - Matilda I snagged from Candyman and the latter Elm Street movies - I was intrigued by the idea of ‘hallucinations’ that could do mean things to people. Abdiel - well, I can fill in the details sometimes, but the interview is more about the responses than the questions Abdiel - okay ThreeDark - And the peanut gallery, boiled peanuts are yummy Ren - The Contortionist was taken from that David Alan Grier scene in Tales From the Hood where he was folded up like paper. Ren - I went '....Ooooooh.....' and went to writing. Abdiel - What features of characters and matches do you look at when you vote? Do you vote on every match, or just your own? Ren - The amount of matches I vote on is hideously varies, and depends on how many hours of sleep I've managed to get. ThreeDark - Sleep is for the Week Ren - I usually look for that good ‘Oh DAMN why didn’t I think of that?’ idea, and the act of showing off one's writing abilities. Ren - I look for the ones that make me feel like dirt, and vote for them. Abdiel - so you don’t usually place too much emphasis on powers comparison and the like? Ev - People still do that? ThreeDark - Eat Snowcone! Ev - NO (I prefer ice cream) Ren - Naw. Unless it’s the Elims. Then I try and factor that in a little, no matter how much the pain in the side of my head tells me not to. ThreeDark - Yes he will turn y... no, wait, won’t finish that. Abdiel - You’ve made efforts to involve some of your characters in Khazan's IC world. What are your thoughts on IC participation in the FPL - it’s effects, reader feedback (or lack thereof) and generally the amount of freedom you have to work with, dumping characters into the Nexus? Ren - I think the IC lines are a bit hazy. I’m still not sure where I can go, what the boundaries are, whose territory is what.... Ren - Then again, considering I pale, turn around, and walk away whenever I take a look at Graves’ archives, I really only have myself to blame for that. ThreeDark - That Reunion should really get finish... oh, Ren. ThreeDark wonders if The Nexus swirls clockwise or counter clockwise Abdiel - both - Counter Counter Clockwise. Ren - Yes, hurts the head if you stare too long. ThreeDark - And if you push that big silver lever? ThreeDark - When did I start asking the questions? Ev - A flush to startle the gods!! Abdiel - Do you have any favorite IC works written by other FPLers that you'd like to recommend to the audience? Abdiel - heh, or is that my answer Ren - Apocalypse. Can’t help but say the Apocalypse. ThreeDark - Mmmmmmm Maxxosity. ThreeDark - I’m starting to hate that boy for his absenteeisim. Ev - Is that a word? Ren - I have no idea. Bryn - Threedark = Gay for Maxx. Ren - And I must also obligatorily plug Soberguy’s ASYLUM. Ren - Just because. Ren looks innocent. ThreeDark takes the Juli mask from Ren Abdiel - What do you think of the FPL Powers and Creation system? Are there any flaws that prevent you from expressing your characters inherent in the design? Ev - COUGHparagraphbreaksGAG ThreeDark shoves the Sharp Sock down Evan’s throat Ren - The Creation system itself isn’t necessarily the most user-friendly system, especially late at night. Abdiel - how would you improve it, were it up to your discretion? Ren - One big page that displays all of what you've got up to that point, and says ‘Are you happy now?’ at the bottom. Abdiel - not a bad idea, heh Abdiel - As a (relative to the vets who are reading this) newcomer to the FPL scene, what were your first impressions of the site months back, and how have they changed as you've learned the ropes? Ren - I was scared. I looked through some of the HoF and felt really really small. Then I read Kronus and felt that everything would be alright. Abdiel - heh ThreeDark - Kronus is supposed to be DEAD. Must talk to Serge about that. That and *It* Abdiel - Do you think that elitism exists in the FPL, and if so, what if anything should be done about it? Ren - There is no elitism. Just the jerks that notice trends and make it seem like it. ThreeDark hides his SS button Ren - And if there is, I have not noticed. Because I’m thick like that. Abdiel - A few people who were interviewed recently have given you high praise, listing you as their pick to have the next big breakout character. Anything you’d like to say in response? Ren - I LOVE YOU ALL! Ren - Except Rookie. Ren -:p ThreeDark has his own opinions on that but then he’s biased. Ren - I’ll be sad to see him go, but I won’t give him a hug. Bryn - Do I get to ask questions now? Abdiel - you can ask a question if you want, Bryn, but if it's about music or Canada I'm editing it out Bryn - Haha. Abdiel puts on the Zephyr Song Bryn - Who is a better creator...Bryn or TheRookie? ThreeDark swats Bryn ThreeDark - You need to insert Ren - Three, hands down. Ev - (why am I not on the list) Bryn - That's not what I asked. Bah. Abdiel - Do you have any advice for the newcomers to the site who feel as small as you did when you first came here? Ren - Making yourself look like a non-threat is usually a good idea. Pulling out the big guns to see if anyone's impressed is the favorable follow-up. Helps test the waters. Abdiel - Do you have any personal goals for yourself as far as winning the Main Event or making it to X number of wins, or do you just create and hope for the best? Ren - I just make and foolishly hope that I won’t go 0-3. Or 1-3. Ren looks at Dulane and tries not to cry. Ev - I hear ya, man. Abdiel - If you had to name the evil-est personality (real person/creator) involved in the FPL, who would it be? ThreeDark - Now you can name Evan Ren - MediaMan. Ev’s just craaaaaaazy. Ev - I’m not evil. I'm just spreading teh chaos (t ren would you like to join the CHAOS ORDER?!?) ThreeDark - Don’t make me hurt you Evan. Bryn - What did we say about that T shit. Abdiel - if you could co-create or work in a collaboration with any creator, would it be Media? if not, who? ThreeDark - Don’t think you have to favor any of us just because we’re here. Ren - That question hurts my head. But there’re SO MANY..... Abdiel - you can pick two or three if you want ThreeDark - hehe Abdiel - AND NOT THAT TWO OR THREE ThreeDark GRINS Ren - Awwww. Ev - Ahh, wordplay, our old friend. Abdiel - well, I mean, you could but... Abdiel - damnit, just answer the question =( Abdiel cries ThreeDark - Nathan attempts to backtrack himself out of a corner. Ev - Fun for all ages! Bring the kids! Ren - To be honest I’d probably go with Ev, though I could probably just drop everything, mail ‘im, and there we go. Ev - (blushing) Ren - Hush you. Ev - Yessir ThreeDark gets the cold water Abdiel - Do you think the overall quality of active FPL characters is higher or lower than usual at present? Ren scratches his head. Ren - It honestly seems to be all over the place, though I suppose I could rectify that by sitting down and actually looking through the gallery now that I have the chance. ThreeDark has quit IRC (Read/Dead Error: SendQ Exceeded) Illumas[afk] has quit IRC (Read/Dead Error: SendQ Exceeded) Juliane has quit IRC (Read/Dead Error: SendQ Exceeded) Disconnected Session Close: Sun Oct 27 20:57:38 2002
Session Start: Sun Oct 27 20:57:51 2002 Now talking in #abbydum Topic is ‘Looks like we’ve broken our Ren. Cleanup on Aisle 4.’ Set by Abdiel on Sun Oct 27 20:06:02 Ren - Dah. Abdiel has joined #abbydum Illumas has joined #abbydum Abdiel - anyway, until the mess in FPL is cleared up... Ren - I wish that wouldn’t do that. I wish I could beat my IRC with a stick as of now. Ren - Where were we? Abdiel - what’s your opinion of Collaborative works in the FPL? Want to tell us a little about your team for the Heart of Dios collab and how you and your partners worked things out? Abdiel - we were talking about overall quality but I’m not very well going to force you to read the entire gallery, heh Abdiel - (sam, feel free to tell us when #fpl is clear) Ren - Collabs are fun. At least when the teammates are of the agreeable sort and won’t be at each others’ throats within the hour. *jerks thumb to the Ev/SoL pair-up of John's random collab* Ev - We never actually, uh, talked. At all. Ren - I was hoping you wouldn’t. Ev - However, me and Dave like last week? Yeah. Ren - And as for the Heart of Dios collab, ‘twas fun. At least when the teamwork portion began. Ren twiddles his thumbs. Juliane has joined #abbydum Abdiel - Are there any matches in your FPL career thusfar that you really wish you could ‘do over’? Any match-ups between your characters and others that you wish could have happened? Ren - The Sniper vs. Rika. Ren - Just because. Ev - WAI WAI (pfft) (blood) Ren - As for matches I wish that woulda happened.... Ren - Actually, I can't think of any. Though if a Photoshop 6.66 vs. Chick Magnet match had happened, I woulda choked on my own saliva. Ren - Instant cringing horror, right there. Abdiel - What’s your take on the recent shenanigans on the boards? Do you feel certain individuals went (or are in the process of going) too far? Ev - (hiding) Ren - There are certain people who’re just being idiots and probably would be better off spending their time doing other things, as they’re not contributing ANYTHING whatsoever. Abdiel - care to name names, or will you leave that to our imagination? Ren - I shant mention their names, as they probably would love to be mentioned anywhere. Ren - Though I will say for the record it’s not Ev. (You can stop hiding now.) Ev - hooray! Abdiel - Do you think the FPL in general is too harsh towards newbies, or too lenient (or neither)? Ren - It’s fine towards newbies. Look how far Juli’s gotten, after all. Ren - Morons, on the other hand.... Abdiel - if there were an actual ‘FPLCon’ where most of the creators actually met in person, and money wasn’t a factor, would you attend? sooooooon will reality that be (hope hope) Ev - Boy do I wish I had a car. Ren - Yes. Even if it would just be to sit in a corner, make an attempt to avoid looking frightened, and watch as reality suffers the consequences. Abdiel - Why the FPL? What keeps you coming back and creating again? Ren - I remember that I had been looking for a place like this for about three years. Ren - Something that wasn't really just a fiction site, that had something else to it. Abdiel - anything you wish this place had that it doesn’t? Anything you wish you could take away, to make this a better experience for you and others? Ren - The only thing I can think of - leaving the Personalities on the battle sheets. Ren - ..... Ren - Whatever follow-up I had to that just got lost.... Abdiel - Do you see yourself still visiting the site in two years? Ren - Definitely. Wouldn’t have it any other way. I’ve gotten too fond of this place for my own good. Abdiel - What’s the best anime/book/album/movie/entertainment form we aren't experiencing? Ren - I’d say Mark Danielewski’s ‘House of Leaves’, but I'm pretty sure after reading the maze that Tarq’s already read it. Ren - I’d also say the music by one Arvo Part, though Ev got me into him in the first place. Ev - Yay for me. Ren - Mm. Must stop name-dropping. Makes me look silly. Ev - Don’t say that or my entire life is a lie. Abdiel - okay, hypothetical situation - you have ten bucks and you’re in the middle of New York City. It’s kinda cold, and you're a little hungry. What do you buy? Ren - Depends on the location. If I’m near the Naked Cowboy, I first get as far away from him as my legs allow. Ren - Merely looking at the fellow would make me feel colder than I’d already be, so there'd be no point in staying around. Illumas - Naked Cowboy? Ren - He wasn’t really naked. Had on underwear, boots, and a hat. Ev - Still good nightmare material. Ren - Suppose I could sue him for false advertising and get more money, but that’d be no fun. Ren - There was this little restaurant I went to once, can't remember the name, but it had good soup. Abdiel - what’s the best bargain power in terms of cost-effectiveness in the FPL? Ren - A tie between Matter Animation, Danger Sense, and Iron Will. Ren - I’m an indecisive one, as you can see. Abdiel - Star Trek or Star Wars (or Babylon 5, you weirdo)? Ren - I wanna say The Next Generation, but I liiiiiked Marcus from B5. He woulda been my idol had I been six. Ev - Marcus = super cool. Ev - He had the extending staff and stuff. Abdiel - which rating contains more, cooler movies: R, or PG, G, and PG-13 combined? Ren - R had One-Hour Photo. PG-13-G had Nightmare Before Christmas. So hard. Ren - Jack or Cy, Jack or Cy, does not compute..... Abdiel - if you could kill one person and get away scott-free, who would it be? Ren - Oh, that’s a toughie. Ren - Probably Jerry Springer. I hate that show. three cheers for Ren! Abdiel - How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? Ren - Somehow I knew you were going to ask that. Abdiel - I'm quickly exhausting my supply of pseudo-witty rhetorical questions. Ev - As many as want to? Ren - As much wood as could fill Mr. McDuck's bankvault, or until it became thirsty. Ren - Whichever came first. Abdiel - what should everyone do before they turn 20? Ren - Test the ‘If at first you don’t succeed’ hypothesis by bungee jumping or skydiving, lest they’ve proven it already. Abdiel - what will you do if Matilda wins the Main Event? Ren - Probably go into a short bout of self-denial where I’d convince myself that somehow everyone was lying just to make me feel better, then secretly laugh at Buzzbomb. :) Ren - And I'd also tell Psycho Ann and Jessi of my accomplishments. Not that you know who they are. Ev - I’ve got a bottle of bubbly right here Ren ol’ chap. Abdiel - What makes you special? Huh, huh? Abdiel pokes Ren in the shoulder Ren - I know that if you add HerbOx chicken seasoning to Kraft Mac&Chesse, it suddenly becomes much better. Ren - Though now you know too. Ren - Crap. Abdiel - Why does it always rain on me? Ren - Because it’s monsoon season? Ren - Or maybe you're just grumpy and you have that little thundering raincloud over your head. Abdiel - Are we there yet? Ren - Only when we find the other half of THIS GOLDEN AMULET will we find our way. Abdiel - Okay, I’m done. Anything you want to say to the FPL crowd in general? You have the final word. Ren - LOVE AND PEACE!Abdiel - anyone else have any questions for Ren? Ev - “I can't believe that idiot is Vash the Stampede!!” Abdiel - any questions you'd like stricken from the record, Ren? Ren - Only that ‘Who was your first love’ one. My answer was Gadget from Rescue Rangers, but Ev and Bryn seemed to think otherwise. Ev - Oh. In that case, me too. Ev - Brains and a great figure. What more could one ask for? Ren - Perhaps human DNA? Ev - Bah. Ev - Overrated. Abdiel - I don't even have that in the logs, must have been during the split Abdiel - although I'll be sure to save the first love question for my next interviewee Ren - Wheee...! Abdiel - alright, thanks for taking the time to talk to us, Ren. You interview should go up in about a week Ren - Not a problem. Ren dances in circles. Ev - No silliness you. Ren - But Unca Evan....! Ev - Go to your room. Ev - Be back down for supper. Ren - I already ate..... Abdiel - okay, I’m clearing out Abdiel - behave, you two Abdiel has left #abbydum Illumas - nate: want my logs? Illumas - damn him Ev has left #abbydum Disconnected Session Close: Sun Oct 27 22:05:37 2002
Written by Ren, Abdiel, Ev, ThreeDark, Juliane, Illumas, and Bryn.
Start - 10/27/2002
End - About an hour and three minutes later
Desolate and lone All night long on the lake Where fog trails and mist creeps, The whistle of a boat Calls and cries unendingly, Like some lost child In tears and trouble Hunting the harbor’s breast And the harbor’s eyes.
~ Carl Sandburg, Lost
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