Historical and Biblical Documentation
Contradicting Don Wilson's Personal Interpretation of the Holy Bible

CCV, Christ's Church of the Valley

Is Don Wilson's personal theology Apostolic?
Is it the teachings of the Apostles?
Or were these ideas invented during the Renaissance era at the earliest,
vice 2000 years ago?

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Don Wilson, Pastor of Christ's Church of the Valley, you are personally responsible for CCV's distinctive theology. I have made charges against your theology as not predating the Renaissance era, and therefore being impossible for it to be Apostolic and subsequently written into the Bible by the Apostles. This is in response to you misrepresenting the Catholic faith, while at the same time outright refusing to substantiate your statements against it in any manner whatsoever even when commanded to by the Holy Bible. (A link to my open letter I sent to you, is at the bottom of this page.) Yes, I have made charges against your personal theology that you teach 8000 people, yet I am willing to back up these charges, for that is the right thing to do if one is going to make them. And I will substantiate them with more than just "my modern personal spin on the Bible." For the Holy Scriptures say:

"But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have." 1 Peter 3:15

I will follow this Biblical commandment even if you won't Don. I will give the reason for the hope that I have, and present and answer 4 questions to you. Again, I have many friends at CCV. And I realize that by going public with your allegations, I might lose some of them for telling the documented historical truths of our theologies. I can only say this, as the Christian Apologist CS Lewis wrote: the ONLY reason to embrace a Church is if it's theology is true. Not because they have great kid programs, not because the pastor is charismatic, not because they love the music. The ONLY reason to be in any Church is if the theology is Apostolic and therefore Biblical. Since the Bible is a written account of the Apostles teachings, if they didn't teach it, it it's not Biblical. It is indeed unfortunate if our friendship might end because I question the beliefs of their pastor, even when he refuses to give answers for his theology or substantiate his allegations about another's faith. Yet I must do what is right, and that is defend the Bride of Christ, the faith of the Apostles against unjust and unsubstantiated charges, in this case, the unsubstantiated charges of Don Wilson.

If you would like to know the answer to these questions as I would, email Don and ask him. Email Don at: DonW@ccvonline.com and ask why he will not substantiate his theology when asked, or justify his accusations when asked. If Don will answer these questions, I will take down this site, because that is only fair. But he won't because he can't. If Don will only pledge not to discredit the Catholic faith again, or to target ignorant Catholics for his church (without at least trying to answer his detractors), I will take down this site and he can teach 8000 people any modern doctrine he desires. Email him and ask him the 4 questions about his modern personal interpretation of the Holy Scriptures that teach:
"First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation." 2 Peter 1:20

4 questions for Don Wilson, Pastor of Christ's Church of the Valley:

1. Don, if you say an idea is "Biblical," shouldn't that idea actually be in the Bible? You have taught your congregation that the Apostles taught the "Bible Only" idea, yet again when asked to substantiate these teachings from Scripture, no support is given. You and your staff have been unable to supply just *one verse* of Scripture that says or even implies what you teach on this,,, that the Bible is the SOLE or Final infallible rule of faith. This is your "Bible Only" idea, and that those who cling to a "Bible Plus" idea are wrong. What is "Bible Plus"? Scripture tells us, it is the teaching authority of the Bride of Christ. It is hearing Christ's Church. In Matt 18:17 Christ commands Christians to: "hear my Church". Yet you teach your parishioners to *reject* this Church in favor of the Bible and "hear you", or your modern version of the Bible that is. Is CCV the Church Christ started? Did Christ start CCV? No, you did not 10 years ago.

-Scripture says: "Hold fast to the traditions whether they come in oral or written form." 2 Thess 2:15 Yet you teach your parishioners to reject this message: the teaching authority of the Bride of Christ as "Bible Plus" and cling to the UNBiblical "Bible Only" idea and only "hear you." (Again, there is not one verse in the Bible to support this Bible Only idea of yours. Yet you teach it anyway. You feel you have to in order to preserve the growth and life of your church. But you don't.)

You told me personally in the 100 class that CCV is "Bible Only," and does not embrace or adhere to the "Apostles Creed" of the 1st century or the "Nicene Creed" of the early Church. And since CCV is "Bible Only" it rejects the teaching authority of: "The Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth" 1 Tim 3:15. Yet "Bible Only" is inherently UNBiblical for the Bible never teaches it.

Yet Bible PLUS (as you put it), means to embrace the faith of the Apostles and the teachings of the Church Christ himself commissioned. (Don why would Christ start his Church if he didn't want us in it? Why would he commission his Church, if it was going to be overcome by the "Gates of Hell," which is at odds with the Bible verse: "I will build my Church and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it? Matt 16:16-19? If the Catholic Church teaches error in matters of faith or morals, have not the "Gates of Hell" over come it? If Christ's Church is corrupted, has not the devil won and "prevailed against it"?

Click here: Protestants often ask: What else is there? What else has Christ's Authority besides the Bible?

Why do you teach your church that the Catholic Faith is not teaching the Truth of Jesus Christ, and therefore implying that the "Gates of Hell" DID prevailed against it contrary to the Holy Scriptures? One can't have it both ways. Either the Catholic Church is "The Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth" 1 Tim 3:15. Or it's not, and the "Gates of Hell" prevailed, and Christ lied in Matt 16:16-19.

Why do you teach your Church the Catholic Faith is Not the "The Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth" 1 Tim 3:15? When it was the ONLY Church, the Only Christian belief system in the 1st century, the 5th and even the 10th century? Christ started the Catholic Church in Matt 16:16-19. Did Christ start CCV? No. CCV's only link to the Apostles and Jesus Christ the through the Catholic Church. Who started your Church? You did. And it was only after the Protestant reformation, and the invention of this "Bible ONLY" idea, that Pandora's box of theologies, denominations and (non denominations). was opened. It's not even Biblical much less historical. Why do you teach it?
Click here: Where do the Holy Scriptures teach the SOLA in Sola Scriptura? Is the Bible Only theory even Biblical?

2. Who before the Renaissance era taught that the Holy Eucharist was MERELY a symbol and not the Real Body and Blood of Jesus Christ, as even your first Protestants taught? The first Protestants call this "Real Presence", Consubstantiation, where the Catholic/Eastern Orthodox/Church of England call it Transubstantiation. Different ways of explaining the process. But ALL agree on what has always been believed, that the Eucharist, is REALLY Jesus Christ. Not as you teach, that is it but a *mere* symbol. Who believed it to be mere symbol before the 16th century? Answer: no one. Not one person. Therefore this idea is UNapostolic and therefore UNBiblical for the Apostles never taught it. Given this, why do you teach contrary to the Apostles and the early Church AND your first Protestants?

ST. Ignatius of Antioch (Student of John the Apostle and Bishop of Antioch in 110AD):
"I have no taste for corruptible food nor for the pleasures of this life. I desire the bread of God, which is the flesh of Jesus Christ, who was of the seed of David; and for drink I desire his blood, which is love incorruptible" (Letter to the Romans 7:3 [A.D. 110]).

Is that CCV's theology in the year 110AD? We don't hear a Christian teaching your theology Don until the 16th century. How can you teach 8000 people this is the Gospel of Jesus Christ if it's a 16th century invention?
For more historical evidence:
Click here for more historical evidence on The Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist

3. Who before the Renaissance era taught that Baptism was but a symbol and not a forgiveness of sin as the Holy Bible teaches us? As even your first Protestants believed! Again no one. Not one person. Therefore this idea is UNapostolic and therefore UNBiblical for it was not written into the NT Bible, because the Apostles didn't teach it.

Hermas from 80AD:
"‘I have heard, sir,’ said I, ‘from some teacher, that there is no other repentance except that which took place when we went down into the water and obtained the remission of our former sins.’ He said to me, ‘You have heard rightly, for so it is’" (The Shepherd 4:3:1–2 [A.D. 80]).


Click here for more historical evidence on: Baptismal Grace, the teachings of the Apostles and their disciples.

Remission of sin? CCV teaches Baptism is but a mere symbol. Why is Don's theology at odds with Christians in 80AD? And 500AD. And 1000AD. And 1500AD. But finally taught in 1600AD by 2nd and 3rd generational Protestants. What claim to Apostolicity does this idea of yours have? None.

4. Who before the Renaissance era taught Baptism by immersion ONLY or ONLY as an adult? Again CCV's theology has drifted so far from Orthodox Christianity that even your first Protestants side with the Apostolic teachings of Christ's Church on all of these. The answer again is no one. Not one person. Therefore this idea is UNapostolic and therefore UNBiblical. Yet CCV continues to teach 8000 people the modern personal revelations of one man. You.

The Didache, Baptism instructions in 70AD.
"After the foregoing instructions, baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living [running] water. If you have no living water, then baptize in other water, and if you are not able in cold, then in warm. If you have neither, pour water three times on the head, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." (Didache 7:1 [A.D. 70]).

Pour the water on the head?, CCV teaches by immersion ONLY. The Anabaptist sect invented this idea in the 17th century. Why do the Anabaptist (and Don Wilson) know the Gospel of Christ better than the Christians in 70AD who were taught personally by the Apostles?
Click here: Early Christian Teachings on Infant Baptism. Click here: Baptism: Immersion Only?

Don, It is impossible for the Apostles to have written an idea into the NT Bible,,,,, if they never taught it. So if they did not teach it, it's not Biblical. It's origin is therefore of modern man. In CCV's case, you. Don Wilson, you are the origin of CCV's theology. It is not Apostolic, it wasn't even taught by your first Protestants much less having preceded them. It is your invention. Yet you continue to tell 8000 people that the Apostles somehow taught these modern ideas.

If you really want to believe as the Apostles taught the early Church, then reject what you know is impossible for them to have taught. Lead your Church to the Apostolic teachings of Jesus Christ. For in teaching what you now know to be false, is wrong. The Holy Bible is quite clear on this:

"If we sin deliberately after receiving knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains sacrifice for sins 27 but a fearful prospect of judgment and a flaming fire that is going to consume the adversaries." Hebrews 10: 26

Don, I asked numerous times for dialogue on your allegations. You charge the Catholic faith with not being Biblical or "Bible Plus". I didn't start this. I am only telling you and CCV the documented facts of history. That is my job as a defender of the Catholic Faith. I don't attack, I defend. In this case, against your continual misrepresentations of Catholic theology over a number or years.

Don, please, visit the The 7 Stages of Christian Spiritual Development.
Use the logic God gave you. Move out of stage 6 and embrace what logic tells you is true. If an idea was invented in the middle ages, it is impossible for it to be taught by the Apostles to the early Church, and subsequently written into the NT Bible. It's impossible. Use logic, not emotion. Just because you have believed something for years on end, doesn't mean it's true.
The Apostle Paul is but one example.

God Bless you,

I ask you again, and your parishioners to please email me with answers to my questions, comments or even objections: INRI33AD@aol.com

"The Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth" 1 Tim 3:15. Either it is or it isn't. Either we believe the words of the Holy Bible or we don't. "There is One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism, One God." (Eph 4:4) Where did your doctrines come from? Are they Apostolic?
Click here: The Origins of Distinctly Protestant Doctrines, the man and the century from Christian history



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