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AJStoneUSAR: Obviuosly it is need to know for her,
unless she needs to be protected and thus have
denyabliity of any actions.
AJStoneUSAR: Here she is
AJStoneUSAR: Her other SN
AJStoneUSAR: I have both
BtcKitty: yes.
Nickluedde: okay AJ fill em in....
AJStoneUSAR: FYI - On the post just made by Jynks, he
is out of the loop on what is going on to stop lane.
Nick and I are working it.
AJStoneUSAR: Jamie is the key to the division in the
GOP
AJStoneUSAR: and I am using my personal influence to
effect that
AJStoneUSAR: He got pissed and that is what Jynks
saw, in an IM. Jynks forgets that I am a character
and thus not capable of being bribed or falling for
fake power tricks.
AJStoneUSAR: Also, no worries, I am 100% still on
mission and his post can be cleared up as an
"ooops".
BtcKitty: ok, so jenks is out of the loop for what reason?
Nickluedde: She's right, she's dividing these bastards up,
and it's beautiful....
AJStoneUSAR: He was on LOA
AJStoneUSAR: He was not here!
BtcKitty: ok, calm down, I'm tryinng to understand it all.
TimeSpirit186: Me too
BtcKitty: I was rather surprised, to say the least, by all
this.
AJStoneUSAR: I had the chance to stir the pot of their in
fighting and did so. I found out that Nick was doing
the same through his contacts so we had a chat on
it
TimeSpirit186: ::dryly:: You know my thoughts very well
BtcKitty: so you are working them internally?
AJStoneUSAR: I am not excited, nor angry, nor really
even concerned. Other than we do not need to
waste time on it.
AJStoneUSAR: Yes, "rachel" is pushing Cross and he
did not like it.
BtcKitty: so this is a privvate thing with Rachel and Cross?
AJStoneUSAR: So he pushed back and Jynks jumped
the gun. Spooked from the BS of the last weeks I
guess.
TimeSpirit186: Honest Republicans are getting squashed
out of their party
BtcKitty: well, that is a hell of a mess for them.
AJStoneUSAR: Well, it is a GOP fight for the nomination.
That is a fact.
AJStoneUSAR: And one side will win and one side will
lose. Fact.
TimeSpirit186: What is Jamie doing in there?
BtcKitty: and the odd thing about that is, Milam just left.
hell ,the body isn't even cold yet
AJStoneUSAR: And if they unite too soon they are
stronger and bigger than us and we will lose to
drones.
TimeSpirit186: Someone forget ethics here?
AJStoneUSAR: This fight, I found out has been going
on quietly the whole time
Nickluedde: If we split the vote we win, simple as that....
BtcKitty: so is Jamie planning a switch to the DNC after
this is over?
AJStoneUSAR: No
TimeSpirit186: Jamie G. Cross a Democrat? Ha!
AJStoneUSAR: It is not like that
BtcKitty: he may well have to if the GOP figures out his
game.
AJStoneUSAR: Jamie has a personal grudge against
Mann and some others.
AJStoneUSAR: There is far more fighting going on over
there than meets the eye
AJStoneUSAR: As long as they stay divided, they are
not droning and we can stay united.
TimeSpirit186: IF Jamie is the Leader of the GOP, I have
serious problems with that
TimeSpirit186: IT becomes a simwide problem then
Nickluedde: While they are fighting amongst themselves, we
stand strong and win the recruitment battle, and win the
election, not to mention they split this vote, we all stand
around with white gloves while they are digging ditches...
AJStoneUSAR: Jamie made an error in judgement and
does not want to admit it
TimeSpirit186: Jamie is NOT a leader
TimeSpirit186: No matter what he thinks
AJStoneUSAR: Duh
AJStoneUSAR: Exactly
TimeSpirit186: So if he's GOP Leader, who the hell is
controlling him?
Nickluedde: We want Jaime to fight with Shanks, that's it!!!!!
AJStoneUSAR: There are many factions fighting over
there
AJStoneUSAR: the aliances are changing by the day
TimeSpirit186: Do you not realize that if this game is to
succeed, BOTH parties must be strong?
AJStoneUSAR: Gupta
AJStoneUSAR: Of course!
Nickluedde: Exactly, lots of bickering, and alliances formed!
We WIn that way!!!
BtcKitty: ok-ok--I'll be right back I have to go get a snack
for my kid.
TimeSpirit186: A divided GOP - and continued
Democratic reign is lovely by me
TimeSpirit186: BUT I want it won by honest means
AJStoneUSAR: But they are already drone strong! Do
you want a chaotic party of infighting drones to run
this sim?
AJStoneUSAR: This is honest!
AJStoneUSAR: This is politics!
TimeSpirit186: So we're going to meddle in the rEpublican
party's internal affairs
TimeSpirit186: To win a election?
AJStoneUSAR: If I say to Jamie "X is the wrong course"
and he says "no its not I will win Z" what is the
problem?
TimeSpirit186: Fine . I will be happy to accede to the
Leadership
TimeSpirit186: I'm going to shut up
TimeSpirit186: But listen to me well, listen to me all of you
- the day my party resorts to underhanded methods is
the day I leaave this SIM Democratic Party
AJStoneUSAR: We are three things here. We are
players in one game. We are partisans. We are
friends and foes (Depending)
TimeSpirit186: Fine I'm listenig
AJStoneUSAR: Gupta, this is not "underhanded"?
TimeSpirit186: I'm listening.
TimeSpirit186: Fine I won't pass judgement
AJStoneUSAR: What is politics if it is not pursuasion?
AJStoneUSAR: What is it if it is not the clash of ideals?
TimeSpirit186: I'm not the Democratic Leader. Politics in
the real world is the kind of politics I never want to see
it here
TimeSpirit186: You want to see politics played? I played
better than a lot of people
TimeSpirit186: ANd I never liked it
TimeSpirit186: WHo the hell do you think brought Marcus
Milam down for the court?
AJStoneUSAR: That is not a specifiic
TimeSpirit186: Fine. I'm not passing judgement
AJStoneUSAR: What is it, in absolute terms you think
we are talking about?
TimeSpirit186: SIM power?
Nickluedde: Gupta, all that is happening here is simple
politics,we are spinning their bullshit, that's all. We are
simply allowing them (with a bit of help) to fight more.
They are already in chaos and already stole an election,
and already
Nickluedde: filling the sim with drones
AJStoneUSAR: Sim power is not a verb
TimeSpirit186: What is it we're after AJ?
AJStoneUSAR: After?
TimeSpirit186: What are we aiming for?
AJStoneUSAR: Only in the degree that it is the purpose
of an election.
TimeSpirit186: Just let me know and I will turn this over to
the Party Leadership
AJStoneUSAR: We won
AJStoneUSAR: They changed the rules
AJStoneUSAR: and they are droning to win
Nickluedde: we are doing exactly what needs to be done to
make sure Sanders wins and that keep the sim healthy
TimeSpirit186: OK
TimeSpirit186: Fine
AJStoneUSAR: if there are GOPers who are not doing
this, we should help them
Nickluedde: :-(
AJStoneUSAR: and we are
TimeSpirit186: I'm going to be quiet
TimeSpirit186: This is not in my hands
TimeSpirit186: I will respect teh Leadership
TimeSpirit186: And I wil llisten
AJStoneUSAR: My whole point was that Cross said "AJ
is helping the GOP" and Jynks posted it
AJStoneUSAR: Why did he say this? Cause Rachel put
pressure on him to support the other guy!
AJStoneUSAR: It has nothing to do with "helping" the
GOP
AJStoneUSAR: Jynks just not being here, and spooked
over the whole Joe thing, and seeing how far down
we are, panniced
AJStoneUSAR: And I just wanted a chat to tell you what
really happened with jamie
AJStoneUSAR: Nothing more
AJStoneUSAR: There droning and their fight, should
not distract us.
BtcKitty: Ok, I am back from being Mom, and I had a
second to read all that came while I was gone.
AJStoneUSAR: Jamie, while not a leader, did a great job
of thowing dirt in our cup of soup
AJStoneUSAR: that is all
AJStoneUSAR: Welcome back laura
BtcKitty: AJ, why was none of this discussed with me
since it was done on my behalf?
TimeSpirit186: Why was this not discussed with Party
elders?
BtcKitty: again, I am not pissed but I'm curios.
AJStoneUSAR: The candidate needs deniablity
TimeSpirit186: She is the LEADER of the DEMOCRATIC
party
AJStoneUSAR: of anything that might look bad, even if
it is not
AJStoneUSAR: She is the candidate. And one in disant
second place, if we do not work harder
BtcKitty: Aj, I thank you for your passion and your drive,
but I don't want this doen on my behalf or even by
anyone associated with me.
BtcKitty: please stop
AJStoneUSAR: Who is the party elders? Nick is whip
and I am Legal Council. Jynks was on LOA. Hello?
Why are you so on edge? This is nothing but Jamie
pouring some gas on our fire.
AJStoneUSAR: Stop what?
AJStoneUSAR: That is my point!
AJStoneUSAR: What is going on, is going on, that we
do not have a stake in what the GOP does is absurd.
AJStoneUSAR: We roll up our heads under the covers
and pretend to not notice and we will have one hell
of a mess as well as a loss.
BtcKitty: sigh. messing in the opposition party is not
anything I want any part of. I feel that my inegety is
on the line and I have no stomach for any of this.
AJStoneUSAR: Messing?
AJStoneUSAR: Again, what the heck is that?
BtcKitty: and if I have a loss and I do it with ehtics, then
I'll be bureid on high moral gound.
TimeSpirit186: Bluntly, I don't know if we even liek the
fact that Jamie is talking about you
BtcKitty: Jamie is who he is, and you are who you are.
You ahve no control on him, and we have no control on
you.
AJStoneUSAR: Bluntly, unless we all pretend we have
no relationships, talk is happening all around us
TimeSpirit186: Bluntly, this isn't what the DNC stands for.
Yes you have a relatoinship with Jamie
AJStoneUSAR: what we do with that talk is what maters
TimeSpirit186: Yes. But in the first place, why would Jamie
say you're helping the GOP?
BtcKitty: well, if taht is the case then I'm sorry, but please
stop doing anything on my behalf. Id rather lose than
to incite shit in the GOP.
AJStoneUSAR: To get you to do what you are doing
now! Losing focus and bringing this to "me". Shit
are you that niave>
AJStoneUSAR: I am not doing anything on your behalf,
nor against the DP
AJStoneUSAR: That is the purpose of this chat. To say
that.
AJStoneUSAR: Gupta, you seem to not get it, and I
thought you would. I am a character. That means I
am not influencable.
AJStoneUSAR: That means I have nothing to gain by
"playing sides", and everything to lose. You should
understand this very simple concept
BtcKitty: well, I've not heard word one of anything i can
either believe or stomach I want to part of this shit and
if it dosn't stop now I'll take it public to the entire sim.
TimeSpirit186: I understand very clearly
AJStoneUSAR: What?
BtcKitty: there you have it.
AJStoneUSAR: Wow.
TimeSpirit186: AJ Do not discount my experience
AJStoneUSAR: How is it that this chat is so far off
topic?
TimeSpirit186: I have been majority leader, whip, Senate
Clerk, DC, Assistant Democratic WHip. I perfectly
understand this
AJStoneUSAR: What have you heard Laura?
AJStoneUSAR: What on earth has been said that is
"unbelieveable" and "unstmachable"?
BtcKitty: AJ, i don't give a shit if i get hanged by my toes
at dawn this shit stops now or I'll take it to the cafe and
let them all decide.
AJStoneUSAR: "what shit"?
BtcKitty: end of it.
AJStoneUSAR: The GOP infighting?
AJStoneUSAR: You cant stop it.
BtcKitty: you feeding it and all the other crap.
Nickluedde: Maybe I'm confused guys, fill me in...
TimeSpirit186: OK. I suppose we should drag Jamie cross
here and have him give us the testimonial?
AJStoneUSAR: I am confused
TimeSpirit186: You say Jamie said "AJ is helping teh GOP"
BtcKitty: as candidte Iam better than that and i will not
have you underminig my character by doing this game
with jaime and telling the DNC how wonderful it is for
us.
AJStoneUSAR: The GOP fight is happening and has
beem happening and will continue to happen.
BtcKitty: let them fight, but it isn't to be on my acocount.
TimeSpirit186: Neither on mine
AJStoneUSAR: :::sigh:::
BtcKitty: and I do not think that screwing up an entire
party will help the sim at all.
TimeSpirit186: Maybe we're naieve
TimeSpirit186: OK Maybe wer'e stupid
AJStoneUSAR: Not only those but biased
TimeSpirit186: Laura's never heard of you in other games
AJStoneUSAR: You have some preconcived idea that I
do not understand
BtcKitty: remember one thing, I jsut spent several days to
reste this sim and make it work, I will not be alble to sit
and watch you tear it up.
BtcKitty: fucking with the GOP or DNC is jsut not part of it
imn my book.
AJStoneUSAR: You seem to think "something" that is
not defined is happening and that it is "bad" yet you
have not said "what" it is?
AJStoneUSAR: No one is fucking!
AJStoneUSAR: Laura!
AJStoneUSAR: Relaxand just listen
AJStoneUSAR: Jesus H! Why are you so god damn
defensive and willing to think that we are doing
"shit"?
Nickluedde: I don't think we are tearing it up are we, I mean
the GOP can sustain some infighting, Milam has dropped
out before, they'll fix their own problems, just not before
the elction is over...right???
Nickluedde: And everbody calm down!!
AJStoneUSAR: Really!
AJStoneUSAR: LOL
AJStoneUSAR: brb
Nickluedde: We need to talk about this cooly, everybody is
on the same side here!!
AJStoneUSAR: phone cALL
Nickluedde: ???
Nickluedde: Okay, Laura and Gupta, what do you think the
cons are, exactly of this action by AJ???
TimeSpirit186: You know myviews
BtcKitty: the cons? besides being unethical and totally
against my standards?
TimeSpirit186: The cons with telling Jamie and then in
your own words, maybe leading him on?
BtcKitty: besdies being the sort of shit taht makes politics
look bad?
Nickluedde has left the room.
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