This is a conversation I, Josh Nacho, had with Kathy one night. Kathy runs the infamous Only Undies Club, formerly the Undies Only Club and also has a web site of her own. This interview is proven to be most humerous. The official date was... uhh... some time in early April 2002.
Josh: Why did you decide to start the UOC?
Kathy: Well. It first started when me and Jay met this girl named Sarah whose sister had a porn site (www.creamy-girls.com). We thought it would be hilarious if Jay had his own porn site. So I made lanky-boys.com. (not porn, but lanky boys in their undies). And then from there I figured how fun it would be to just let anyone join in (not just the lanky and the boys). And I figured profiles would make it funner so people could post their interests and whatnot.
Josh: Do you think it's better than MOC, because of the underwear?
Kathy: Well it's certainly not "better". MOC certainly blows UOC away by just about everything. But I certainly think that's it's funner and more... elitist. It's all about being in the undies. Plus it's just amazing at how many people actually pose in their undies.
Josh: But what about the ugly people like me who don't look good in their underwear? What do you suggest to them?
Kathy: Aww. Well. Ugly in what sense? It's so easy to hide your least favorite body parts. You don't have to include your whole body in your pictures. And UOC isn't about being beautiful or ugly. It's about the undies!
Josh: Yeah, but I'm really fat and hairy, no one wants to see that, no matter where they look.
Kathy: Well, if you are and you post yourself, I'm alright with that. I don't care what others want to see. Hah.
Josh: Do you think there's a market out there for the fat and hairy guys to make friends?
Kathy: Sure. My friend Briette digs chubby guys.
Josh: So you're encouraging the ugly people to join and show off their undies?
Kathy: I'm encouraging everyone to do so :) That's why I made it. Otherwise I would've just stuck with lanky-boys.com
Josh: You do all the actual web-side content to the site. How did you learn html and other scripts? Do you use other scripts?
Kathy: I taught myself html about 4 years ago. Other scripts that I use on the site are basically javascript. My friend Jim set up the php and the database for the site. If it wasn't for him I would be swamped with profiles to add.
Josh: Did you teach yourself javascript too or do you just steal it from other people?
Kathy: Heh, dynamicdrive.com has all the answers :) I haven't had time to learn to code javascript quite yet.
Josh: Oh, it's rough, let me tell you. If you go to java.sun.com that makes it easier too. So what music do you listen to, like, give me five or ten bands you've listened to in the past week.
Kathy: The Dead Boys (I listen to them every single day), Richard Hell and the Voidoids, X Ray Spex, Leftover Crack, the Distillers, Crass, and Blatz.
Josh: So you're not quite as emo and straight edge hardcore as those MOC kids?
Kathy: Not quite. I do listen to some emo, but it's not my fave. And I don't claim sxe. Even though, I don't drink or smoke.
Josh: Are you vegan?
Kathy: Nope. I just ate a big fat steak today.
Josh: Now, if straight edge people break their edge, do you think we should say that vegan people break their veg?
Kathy: Hehe. I've never thought about that. I haven't meet any vegans that stopped being vegans. Sure sure.
Josh: It's a good idea though, right? If they just like, ate some cheese one day, it's like, "you broke your veg!"
Kathy: Sure is. They'd probably be vomitting too.
Josh: Do you understand tattoos?
Kathy: Understand..as in??
Josh: Like why people are obsessed with them.
Kathy: I guess they can be addicting. Just like piercings. Or when you gage your ears. I haven't gotten my tats yet. But I think tattooed bodies are so beautiful.
Josh: Are you going to become obsessed with them?
Kathy: I think I already am.
Josh: How do you justify it to someone like me though who just sees it as a waste of time and money?
Kathy: Well. That's your body. You can do what you wish with it. People waste money all the time. So as long as it's making them happy, I see no wrong in it.
Josh: But say on average, it'll take maybe an hour to get a tattoo, right?
Kathy: Yea. Hour or two.
Josh: In that time, I could write maybe three or four pages for my novel. So how is getting a tattoo productive, you know, a good means of your time, I guess.
Kathy: Hah well that's you. Some people don't view getting tattoos as a waste of time. People waste hours away chatting on the internet / watching TV. Hah. Might as well enjoy it.
Josh: How come whenever I try to talk to someone about tattoos, they get all defensive and cry?
Kathy: Hmm. Really they cry? Hah. I wouldn't know.
Josh: I make people cry a lot. People are wusses.
Kathy: Well that's no good.
Josh: You're gonna think I'm this huge ugly asshole after this.
Kathy: I don't care what your asshole looks like. Hah.
Josh: Nah, I'm really an ok guy, but this isn't my therapy, not today. You can interview me one day and put it on your site and be like "why are you such an asshole?"
Kathy: I won't put you through the trouble.
Josh: Trouble?
Kathy: Yea. You talking about why you are such an asshole. Or is that enjoyable to you?
Josh: I don't really enjoy being an asshole, I just like to talk.
Kathy: Understandable.
Josh: I don't think I'm an asshole though, I'm just honest. Perhaps too honest.
Kathy: There's nothing wrong with that.
Josh: But people can't handle honesty, you know?
Kathy: Of course. It's always like that. Denying the truth. But then, I'd rather deny the truth then believe a lie.
Josh: Some times we're just better off being lied to. There's this profile on UOC that says something like "I'm a skinny girl and I'm sick of all these fat bitches in thongs"... umm, do you know where the girls with the ghetto bootys are at, cause I didn't see any.
Kathy: Yea. I wouldn't have a clue.
Josh: You need some ghetto booty cause junk in the trunk is fun to say.
Kathy: Haha. Sounds like it.
Josh: Why don't you allow nudity on your site?
Kathy: The host provider doesn't allow it.
Josh: Nuts to him.
Kathy: Plus even if they did, I'd have to screen everyone to make sure they are 18+. I don't want to bother with that.
Josh: We should make a naked kind of club, wanna go in on that with me?
Kathy: Hehe. Maybe in the future. Not now, I'm a busy gal.
Josh: Oh, that kind of worked on two different levels, huh? Perverted people might take that the wrong way.
Kathy: Hah. What?
Josh: I'm going to explain my feelings on nudity to you, then will you tell this to your provider?
Kathy: Possibly not. There's hosts out there that allow nudity. They just cause more due to increased bandwidth.
Josh: So if you can have a guy in his boxer shorts, why can't that be the same as a girl in her thong? Why can't we see some tits?
Kathy: Well. If you have been out in society lately you'd see that girl tits are not accepted as public display.
Josh: Then hell, can we rule for it to be common ground if I go out to just pump gas or go to school?
Kathy: Haha.
Josh: Let's go in on the "set them free" bill.
Kathy: Haha. Yea I'm sure. It'll be revolutionary.
Josh: Do you get people who submit pictures with nudity and you have to say "hey, look buddy..."?
Kathy: I've only gotten about three. 1 of which I think were fake.
Josh: When you get them, what happens to them?
Kathy: Hmm. I click the delete button and they are erased from the server. Just like with any profile picture that isn't within the rules.
Josh: Can they from here on out forever be forwarded to me?
Kathy: Possibly not. Unless you wanna see a lot of cock. I'm sure they will freely send it to you.
Josh: They're all guys?
Kathy: Yea I only got one nudie from a girl and I looked really fake.
Josh: Do they not understand the concept of underwear?
Kathy: Possibly not. I need to start enforcing that too. People are using clever objects to hide their vital orgasmic organs. I find it hilarious. So I let them slide. But I think I need to start enforcing *undies only* policy.
Josh: What about the people who aren't really in their underwear, but in full clothing?
Kathy: Well if they have clothes on and undies showing, I'm all right with it. It's not really about showing skin. It's about the undies! And exposing them.
Josh: What are the best undies you've seen so far?
Kathy: Let me find the user.
Josh: I can't tell you my user, but I can give you a brief description.
Kathy: It was the first girl I saw with the Spiderman undies. (Not the printed ones) but the ones that would be like Spiderman's undies.
Josh: Yes!!! That was mine.
Kathy: Hehe. So fun.
Josh: I was like, "this girl likes Spiderman, we'd be great together"
Kathy: Yea. She should win something. Hah.
Josh: I'll interview her and be like, "if you like Spiderman, why don't you date me?"
Kathy: Hah. Yea. User = sexed. Poor girl had to take most of her info off. Those undies were just too adorable.
Josh: Because people harassed her?
Kathy: Yea. It gets really irriating afterall. People don't tend to harass by email anymore. Mostly aim.
Josh: There's a point where I like to fight back though, I like to turn the tables on people who im me to annoy me. You think I could teach your users a course or something?
Kathy: Sure. "Are you being harassed? Contact NCASOLDOUT on AIM for harassment tips" Hah.
Josh: It'll be like internet self defense or something. I can be pretty annoying, right?
Kathy: Nah. You're funny.
Josh: Funny... or stupid?
Kathy: Funny indeed.
Josh: See, cause most people find me stupid. After the nudity remark, I think I lost all cred as a journalist.
Kathy: Haha. Poor guy.
Josh: I have to spend years convincing people I'm really not this stupid though. So if I wanted to submit myself as a woman on UOC, could I do it?
Kathy: Like you being a guy on the girls section? No. Girls are girls and boys are boys.
Josh: No, not a guy on the girl section, just so people think I'm a girl.
Kathy: Like you dress up as a girl? And like stuff your bra and whatnot? Well if you can convince me you are a girl… I guess you are going in the girl section.
Josh: No, I dress normal.
Kathy: Hah.
Josh: So you're the one I gotta get past?
Kathy: Hah. Yea. I approve
Josh: Will you put me up as a girl?
Kathy: Show me your picture.
Josh: I have one of my head. I don't have undies ones. I guess that's my first step, huh?
Kathy: Yes.
Josh: Who do I see about getting someone to take pictures of me in my underwear?
Kathy: Possibly a friend. I don't assign that. Hah. Sorry.
Josh: You should make a street team, recruit people. What if someone was like "I have underwear but can't get a camera, can you come take pictures of me", would you do it?
Kathy: Depends if they are like within a 50 minute radius of me. Most of the lanky boys on lanky-boys.com had their pictures taken by me.
Josh: How far am I from you?
Kathy: Hah, I don't know. I'm by Cedar Point in Ohio.
Josh: I could be 12 hours from you. Is that acceptable?
Kathy: Not for me to go out there and take pictures. You'd have to send me a two way plane ticket. And feed me as well
Josh: Do you eat a lot?
Kathy: Indeed. I <3 food.
Josh: All right, well, when would you be available to come out?
Kathy: Hah. Crazy boy.
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