Josh: Your full length is called "If They Move Kill Them", do you think that's ever caused anyone not to move at one of your shows?

Jay: (laughs) I hope not. I definitely hope not. We were kind of referencing this movie called the Wild Bunch. I don't think it's ever inhibited anybody.

Josh: You guys get compared a lot to other bands, even though I think it's completely wrong, so I'm going to name you three bands you get compared to and you tell me what you think about them.

Jay: Ok.

Josh: Thursday.

Jay: Really? I think they're awesome. We did one of our first tours with them and Skycamefalling. It was one of their first tours. We're great friends with them and they're very successful, I can't think of better people for that to happen to. I think we might all be influenced by the same stuff, but I don't think we're influenced by them like they're not influenced by us.

Josh: AFI.

Jay: I don't know, I've never listened to that band once in my life. I saw a Cinema Beer Nuts video once a long time ago, but I never, ever listen to that. So, I don't know, but I don't think so. I just don't agree. (laughs) But best of luck to them. I don't even know them, so I can't really talk shit. (laughs)

Josh: *old* Saves the Day.

Jay: I think that old Saves the Day has the hardcore breakdown and the words follow each other pretty fast. I think that we're just a lot more hardcore than they ever were. I think that the old Saves the Day record sounds more pop punk than anything else. When I heard that the first time, I heard Slick Shoes in my head, and Lifetime mixed together. I like that first record, "Through Being Cool", but I don't think we sound anything like that band either. They're all good-looking, so best of luck to them. I think that if you try to compare us to Saves the Day, then you don't know too much about music at all. I don't think that they would ever pull the breakdowns and stuff that we do because their music supports the vocals, that's pretty much what Saves the Day is, and we're music that the vocals are thrown on top of, which is just completely different.

Josh: Right now there's kind of this thing going on where EVR is signing a lot more bands that aren't hardcore, and for a while I've been talking to some of those newer bands and asking them what it's like to be on a label that's primarily hardcore except for Saves the Day was on it and Fairweather. And, well, you're Fairweather...

Jay: I can't say that all of the bands that they signed recently are my favorite type of bands. I feel like we are a hardcore band. I think it's not necessarily a sound, but more of a mentality. We were always the kids who went to hardcore shows. My favorite band ever is Battery. That's part of how I think about music and how I want to be as a musician. Bands like Rocking Horse Winner are talented, but they're not hardcore. I'm happy to be on a label that's diverse. It's great that EVR is trying to build music that is just because they like it, as opposed to just fitting a niche`.

(We got into a big discussion about Victory, and I'm not sure why)

Josh: That's what happens when we turn from EVR to Victory. You can just be like "It doesn't matter, it's not my label anyway! Let them have their blasted Snowdogs!"

(we laugh)

Josh: I think you're the only band I've ever heard of from Virginia. Is it true you're the only band from there?

Jay: Ever? No, all these bands wanna tell you they're from DC but they're all from the suburbs. Everyone comes from privileged situations and that's how they're able to buy instruments and learn how to play them. We went to high school with Darkest Hour in Fairfax. Frodus... Who else is Virginian? Trial by Fire.

Josh: They claim DC though.

Jay: I know. They live in DC now, but they're from Virginia. I think it's better we're in sort of a separated part of Virginia and it's much more rural. Most of northern Virginia up near Fairfax is just people who work in DC and it's more like an ant colony.

Josh: You have a new EP out, is that kind of a way to tide us over until the new full length which will be out later next year maybe?

Jay: We got off the tour in December of last year and we didn't have a band. It was Ben and I. Ben and I were the only ones who toured last year, except for Peter filled in during the summer. IT took us like, four or five months to find a drummer. We were gonna record a full length. EVR wanted us to have a full length out now, to keep up momentum for them and us, but we didn't have a line up. We recorded in July after having a drummer for only three months. So that was that EP. We wrote four songs and they went on it. We wanted to release something for us and for the label's sake, just to sort of let people know we're still around so we could have something to tour on while we got material for a full length. It's pretty much been a scramble just to get things back on track.

Josh: There's actually a song in there and a quote about blood on the pages...

Jay: Scott Kempner said it the first time I saw the Stooges. The whole thing about the EP, I think, is that we don't have any pictures or lyrics; we don't have any information. For so many bands these days, there are so many pictures of them but so little content. We feel like we're a hardcore band because we feel like we have something to say that's real. But we just feel like everyone's trying to sell themselves, and that's not what we're trying to do.

Josh: If you could be the comptroller of Hartford without any real job responsibilities, would you do it?

Jay: I don't know what that means.

Josh: It's like, the title above the treasurer or something. It's one step above, with the money.

Jay: I'd probably take it and then give the title to you, since you seem to want it so much.

Josh: Do you remember the time at Skatefest, you were standing outside the pizza place with Chris Camden and I asked Chris where Matt Smith was, and he said Matt Smith was in Europe?

Jay: No, I don't.