03[23:00:52] * Shadix sets mode: +o HowardDrossin
[23:00:52] <Tarheeltim> if that's skype then invite me
[23:00:54] <Tarheeltim> =P
[23:00:55] <@Shadix> ALRIGHT GUYS
[23:00:57] <Kyran> haha
[23:00:59] <AzuU> Who's taking?
[23:01:01] <Andeh> wait...
[23:01:03] <GerbilSoft> in before +m
00[23:01:04] <SoNick> And it's Howard Drossin!
[23:01:05] <@Shadix> LADIES AND GENTLEMAN
[23:01:06] <Kiddo> Kay
[23:01:07] <Dyne> lol
[23:01:08] <Kiddo> Shadix approved
[23:01:08] <Endri> DOM, WANT THE LINK FOR YOR SHOW
[23:01:09] <@Shadix> I PRESENT TO YOU
[23:01:11] <Slingerland> op
[23:01:12] <ComRante> Thanks for the music!
[23:01:15] <Kiddo> Now we can all be +med
[23:01:16] <Sz> In after ... m?
[23:01:17] <@Shadix> HOWARD DROSSIN!
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[23:01:18] <Kiddo> And quest voice
[23:01:18] <MarkEchidna> it's time for show time?
[23:01:20] <@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> the link for my show
[23:01:20] <Slingerland> OP
[23:01:20] <@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> is
[23:01:21] <Andeh> yes
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[23:01:25] <Dyne> here comes the fun
[23:01:27] <@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> http://baltimorebarcams.com/vgmusic/
03[23:01:28] * Shadix sets mode: +m
[23:01:42] <@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> every tuesday @10pm EST.
[23:01:49] <@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> would love to see you guys out there.
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[23:02:05] <@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> SHOUT OUT TO HOWARD DROSSIN if he's here somewhere
[23:02:09] <@Shadix> Alright Mr. Drossin take it away
[23:02:18] <@Shadix> You guys no the drill
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[23:02:35] <@Slingerland> is this a chat guest or a SAGEcast guest?
[23:02:40] <@Shadix> chat
[23:02:45] <@Slingerland> oh ok
[23:02:48] <@Slingerland> who's on the cast right now?
[23:03:02] <@Slingerland> I hear you talkin' and I think that's DOM, yeah?
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[23:03:19] <@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> ah nope not I
[23:03:22] <@Shadix> PST me or Sling your questions
[23:03:22] <@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> I'm off the air
[23:03:35] <@Shadix> and we'll queue you
[23:03:38] <@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> I'm hanging around tho
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[23:04:13] <@Slingerland> lol mom
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[23:04:40] <@Slingerland> Mr. Drossin, feel free to introduce yourself any time
[23:05:16] <@Slingerland> this sagecast and guest chat is amazing
[23:05:24] <@Slingerland> it's dead air and dead room
[23:05:59] <@Shadix> Howard is trying to figure out how this works
[23:06:01] <+Kroze> *crickets*
[23:06:13] <@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> s'cool
[23:06:17] <@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> he'll figure it out
06[23:06:35] * @Slingerland wants you to PM Shadix or I to get the chance to ask Drossin a question!
[23:06:35] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> my server is
[23:06:37] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> freecast
[23:06:40] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> which is a site I admin
[23:06:50] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> it's like 'sign up for 4 hours a week and get the password'
[23:06:53] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> it's freecast.co.uk
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00[23:06:58] HowardDrossin is ~SageGuest@Rizon-FEB1E59.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net * PJIRC User
00[23:06:58] HowardDrossin on @#sagexpo
00[23:06:58] HowardDrossin using *.rizon.net Where are you?
00[23:06:58] HowardDrossin End of /WHOIS list.
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[23:06:59] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> sorry I would have switched it up except
[23:07:02] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> I got in a bit late
[23:07:08] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> and just had to go with my configuration
[23:07:14] <04@HowardDrossin> Burp
[23:07:19] <04@Slingerland> ah, there you are
[23:07:25] <04@Slingerland> what's going on, Mr. D?
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[23:07:33] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> hahah I know.
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00[23:08:28] SoNick using irc.lunarforums.org Rizon Client Server
00[23:08:28] SoNick is using modes +ix authflags: [none]
00[23:08:28] SoNick is actually ~SuperSoNi@66.232.200.131 [66.232.200.131]
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[23:08:47] <04@Slingerland> LeeBro sucks lololololol
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[23:09:08] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> :ping:
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[23:09:11] <04@Shadix> lolololol
06[23:09:17] * @Slingerland WANTS YOU BROSKIS TO PM SHADIX OR I A QUESTION FOR MR. DROSSIN!
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[23:09:28] <15+Kroze> Way to go SAGEcast, your making fun of him made him go away!
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[23:09:49] <04@Slingerland> yeah, you gues are geniuses
[23:09:54] <04@Slingerland> *guys
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[23:10:24] <GerbilSoft> psst
07[23:10:24] -> *Shadix* Hey, I turned on name highlighting based on host and SageGuest6 and SageGuest9 are also Howard Drossin, it seems...?
[23:10:25] <04@Shadix> Howard you there?
[23:10:26] <06SageGuest9> Here now. With name. I think.
[23:10:26] <Rod> you guys are funny
[23:10:29] <SonicTweaker> FAIL
[23:10:29] <GerbilSoft> shoutcast streams are in fact playable on macos
[23:10:31] <GeoffreyTaucer> wow, this is great
[23:10:34] <Jsonic> *Dances* now what?
[23:10:34] <15+Kroze> Ha
[23:10:35] <InstantSonic> lol
[23:10:37] <Vio> so..... what happened
[23:10:39] <04@Slingerland> this chat is fucking terrible
[23:10:41] <Kiddo> ...?
[23:10:41] <GeoffreyTaucer> get up
[23:10:43] <GeoffreyTaucer> get on up
[23:10:45] <Kiddo> What'd I do?
[23:10:45] <GeoffreyTaucer> AND DANCE
07[23:10:46] <SoNick> Ah, it went -m right before I sent the message.
[23:10:46] <Kiddo> :(
[23:10:47] <MarkEchidna> I'm hearing it on Mac OS
[23:10:48] <04@Slingerland> did Drossin even test this shit?
[23:10:49] <xNight> Okay
07[23:10:51] <SoNick> SageGuest9 is Drossin, yes.
[23:10:54] <KTZ> >>
[23:10:59] <06SageGuest9> OK ask away. Yes I tested. 
[23:11:03] <04@Slingerland> OK
[23:11:03] <InstantSonic> DID MICHEAL JACKSON DO THE MUSIC FOR SONIC 3 YES NO
07[23:11:03] <SoNick> At least, the same host.
03[23:11:04] * Shadix sets mode: +o SageGuest9
[23:11:05] <Jsonic> Dooms Day Zone!
[23:11:10] <Dyne> shiz happens.
[23:11:10] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> relax guys, this chat is fine, relax.
[23:11:12] <06@SageGuest9> no
[23:11:14] <P2E> back to +m again
[23:11:19] <Dyne> ouch.
[23:11:21] <04@Slingerland> back to +m 
[23:11:21] <Kiddo> Our new guest is so guesty he has "Guest" in his name!
03[23:11:21] * Shadix sets mode: +m
[23:11:27] <04@Shadix> Hey Howard
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[23:11:32] <04@Shadix> Lets hope this works now
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[23:11:41] <04@Shadix> Sorry about the technical difficulties
[23:11:46] <06@HowardDrossin> ok
[23:11:51] <04@Slingerland> ok, Shadix, please voice the first person
06[23:11:59] * @Slingerland queue: Aquaslash
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[23:12:33] <15+Prime_2> So
[23:12:35] <15+Prime_2> HOward
[23:12:40] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> Taucer is up in here?
[23:12:45] <15+Prime_2> You were involved in the sonic 3 music...
[23:12:49] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> oh yea.
[23:12:50] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> cool
[23:12:52] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> sup dude.
[23:13:00] <06@HowardDrossin> yes
[23:13:11] <15+Prime_2> Now, the sonic 3 final boss music was pretty much the best boss arrangement I have ever heard, ever.
[23:13:17] <15+Prime_2> Did you have any involvement
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[23:13:51] <06@HowardDrossin> It was a long time ago. I don't remember all of the tracks. I'd
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[23:14:08] <06@HowardDrossin> like to say yes, but i could be wrong
03[23:14:21] * Shadix sets mode: +v Kiddo
[23:14:28] <04@Shadix> Kiddo is next
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[23:14:45] <15+Kiddo> Right, I think I'll ask this one for now, assuming everyone else will ask what else I want asked
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[23:15:02] <15+Kiddo> How was the music for Sonic 3 composed? I'm assuming it was not like the "Sonic Megamix" project's music hacking, of course.
[23:15:08] <04@Shadix> Oh I'm sorry
[23:15:11] <15+Kiddo> In particular Sonic 3 had some neat effects not normally done in Genesis games
[23:15:16] <04@Shadix> I forgot to introduce you :3
[23:15:23] <15+Kiddo> Like most of the "Pops" and the "Heys"!
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[23:15:38] <15+Kiddo> Only other Genesis game I recall did that on a regular basis was, uh
[23:15:39] <15+Prime_2> mid-point-iducing Howard Drossin!
[23:15:43] <15+Kiddo> TMNT: Hyperstone Heiest
[23:15:57] <06@HowardDrossin> The music was composed separately and input for the genesis by someone named Setsu (I think)
06[23:16:01] * @Slingerland QUEUE: Aquaslash, Triattackhax
[23:16:11] <15+Kiddo> Setsu? Sounds like an alias....
[23:16:31] <06@HowardDrossin> I didn't do any sound efx for Sonic 3.
[23:16:39] <15+Kiddo> Well, I mean
[23:16:45] <15+Kiddo> Some of the music has sound effects -in- the music
[23:16:46] <06@HowardDrossin> Actually it was a Japanese name, shortened for a longer name
[23:16:51] <15+Kiddo> Like
[23:17:17] <15+Kiddo> If you go to Launch Base you hear the Clap-like "GAO!"
[23:17:18] <15+Kiddo> Or something
[23:17:25] <06@HowardDrossin> That was done separately while it was being programmed for the genesis
[23:17:47] <15+Kiddo> Ah
[23:18:26] <04@Shadix> alright kiddo
[23:18:29] <15+Kiddo> Right. I have a lot more questions, but I think I'm gonna be -v
[23:18:30] <15+Kiddo> So
03[23:18:33] * Shadix sets mode: -v Kiddo
[23:18:35] <06@HowardDrossin> Maybe Setsumaru? I think.
[23:18:41] <04@Shadix> Sling
[23:18:42] <04@Shadix> go
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[23:19:22] <04@Slingerland> Aquaslash, you're up
[23:19:36] <15+Aquaslash> Ok
[23:19:44] <15+SonicTweaker> Okay, I want to clarify the name Mr. Drossin is thinking of
[23:19:48] <15+Aquaslash> Im gonna ask the question a lot of folks want to know
[23:19:48] <15+SonicTweaker> Masaru Setsumaru
[23:19:58] <06@HowardDrossin> That's it!!!
[23:20:10] <15+Aquaslash> To what extent was Michael Jackson involved in Sonic 3?
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[23:20:27] <15+Prime_2> oh boy
[23:20:31] <15+Aquaslash>  And how much of his work did you replace
[23:20:35] <06@HowardDrossin> Originally he was involved but in the end he ended up with NO involvement
[23:20:36] <04@Slingerland> here it is...
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[23:20:49] <04@Shadix> Ok
[23:21:01] <15+SonicTweaker> Can I ask something about that?
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[23:21:10] <06@HowardDrossin> Sure, if I can tell you. 
[23:21:21] <04@Shadix> You see, you say that, but the credits theme in the final game is like identical to his song, Stranger In Moscow.  Exec flop?
[23:21:42] <15+SonicTweaker> Despite Michael Jackson having no involvement in the end, there have been certain similarities pointed out between MJ's music and some of the PCM samples used for percussion in the game
[23:21:57] <15+SonicTweaker> Namely, a sample used in Carnival Night Zone uses an excerpt of the MJ song "Jam"
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[23:22:19] <15+SonicTweaker> You can literally hear the lyric being spoken, upon closer inspection
[23:22:29] <15+SonicTweaker> Is there anything you know regarding this?
[23:22:36] <04@Slingerland> good job, Tweak :/
[23:22:47] <15+SonicTweaker> In addition, is it somehow related to certain musical tracks being changed in the PC version of the game?
[23:22:53] <06@HowardDrossin> I did not do all of the music for the game. However, I know that SEGA wanted to distance themselves from him after the sex scandal. If MJ's tracks influenced some of the music it is a coincidence as far as I know.
[23:23:05] <15+Prime_2> oh wow.
[23:23:18] <04@Slingerland> and there's your answer!
[23:23:41] <04@Shadix> Ok, when we are done I'll have to send you the Stranger In Moscow song. :3
[23:23:47] <04@Shadix> Well
[23:23:50] <04@Shadix> A youtube link
[23:23:59] <15+Aquaslash> I got one more, unrealted thing
06[23:24:03] * @Slingerland QUEUE: TriAttackHax, Jeiku
[23:24:10] <15+Aquaslash> completely unrelated but still
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[23:24:40] <04@Slingerland> hurry it up, brosky
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[23:24:41] <15+Aquaslash> There's a song you did for the "Virtual Sonic" album called "Metal Sonic".  Did you have the lyrics to that anywhere, it's kinda hard to understanf
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[23:24:46] <15+Aquaslash> *understand
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[23:25:12] <15+Prime_2> hahahahaha
[23:25:43] <06@HowardDrossin> I don't have the lyrics anymore, but I know the first line is -- He's going his own way
[23:26:05] <06@HowardDrossin> My lyrics were a bit subversive for the project 
[23:26:14] <06@HowardDrossin> and intentionally hard to understand when I sang it
[23:26:22] <04@Slingerland> that's the vibe I got from it
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[23:27:01] <15+Aquaslash> I got that vibe as well
[23:27:08] <15+Aquaslash> I guess the mystery remains lol
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[23:27:36] <06@HowardDrossin> I could probably remember if I heard them again. Its been awhile.
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[23:28:48] <15+Turbohog> First of all thanks for coming, it's a real pleasure. And since the biggest question was already asked, I'll ask a pretty basic question.
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[23:29:11] <15+Turbohog> If given the chance to work on another Sonic game, would you?
[23:29:14] <06@HowardDrossin> Was that the MJ question?
[23:29:19] <04@Slingerland> yeah
[23:29:27] <04@Slingerland> MJ was on the tip of everybody's tongue
[23:29:29] <15+Turbohog> It was the MJ question :P
[23:29:38] <06@HowardDrossin> Yes, absolutely. In fact, I may.
[23:29:47] <15+Turbohog> Fantastic!
[23:30:03] <15+Turbohog> It would be great to hear some of your work on a future Sonic game
[23:30:24] <06@HowardDrossin> Thanks
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[23:30:41] <15+Turbohog> Of course I have more questions, but I'll let someone else take a turn. Thanks for answering my question!
03[23:30:50] * Slingerland sets mode: -v Turbohog
[23:30:50] <06@HowardDrossin> I won't work with Michael Jackson though!!
03[23:30:58] * Slingerland sets mode: +v TriAttackHax
[23:30:58] <15+Prime_2> CHMON
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[23:31:03] <15+SonicTweaker> hahaha
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[23:31:06] <04@Slingerland> TriAttackHax is up
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[23:31:18] <15+TriAttackHax> I wouldn't work with Michael either, Mr. Drossin. :)
[23:31:19] <15+TriAttackHax> Thank you for your time, Mr. Drossin. My question is this: you worked on the music for both Sonic the Hedgehog 3 and Sonic and Knuckles, but originally the two games were one larger project. When you were working on Sonic 3, were you in fact working on the sequel's music as well?
[23:31:48] <15+TriAttackHax> Or was the project already "split" by the time you began on it?
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[23:32:14] <06@HowardDrossin> They were separate projects for me. I worked on them at different times.
[23:32:26] <06@HowardDrossin> yes it was already split
[23:32:35] <15+TriAttackHax> Alrighty, that answers it for me. I've always been curious about that, actually.
[23:32:39] <15+TriAttackHax> Thanks, Mr. Drossin. :)
[23:32:53] <15+TriAttackHax> Good luck on future endeavors. :)
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[23:33:03] <04@Slingerland> Shadix, next person
[23:33:05] <06@HowardDrossin> Thank you :)
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[23:33:40] <15+GeneXM> Thank you for coming to SAGE, Mr. Drossin
[23:33:52] <06@HowardDrossin> Sure
[23:34:03] <15+GeneXM> I have two questions: First, when you were working on music for the stages, how difficult was it to create music in Sonic 3 that fit the level's theme while maintaining the general hip-hop sound?
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[23:34:48] <06@HowardDrossin> I didn't deal with the programming of the sound. I composed separately.
[23:35:01] <04@Shadix> Ok, were only going to be able to do one questien
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[23:35:07] <04@Shadix> Because
[23:35:13] <04@Shadix> The queue is very long
[23:35:22] <15+GeneXM> And second, have you worked on other projects post-Sonic?
[23:35:30] <06@HowardDrossin> many
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[23:37:20] <04@Slingerland> YOU ONLY GET ONE QUESTION, GUS
[23:37:22] <04@Slingerland> *GUYS
[23:37:35] <04@Slingerland> let this be known for future question askers
[23:37:42] <04@Slingerland> because we have to get through a lot of people
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[23:38:28] <04@Slingerland> Jeiku, you're up
[23:38:31] <15+Jeiku> Righto
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[23:38:44] <15+Jeiku> Mr. Drossin, thanks for coming by and I really enjoy your work for the series
[23:38:50] <06@HowardDrossin> thanks
[23:39:17] <15+Jeiku> Anyhow, are you still open to composing music for video games in the future, or are you solely focusing on working on film soundtracks at the moment?
[23:39:37] <06@HowardDrossin> Actually, I'm currently working on 2 games right now.
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[23:40:36] <15+Jeiku> Are you in the position to disclose what they are?
[23:41:00] <06@HowardDrossin> Yes. Splatterhouse and Afro Samurai for Namco.
[23:41:08] <15+Jeiku> !!
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[23:41:14] <15+Jeiku> Wow, Afro Samurai - that'll be something to look forward to
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[23:41:55] <15+Jeiku> Thanks for answering :D
[23:41:57] <04@Shadix> alright Jeiku
[23:42:04] <06@HowardDrossin> Thanks. They have both been really cool to work on.
[23:42:05] <04@Shadix> next
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[23:42:21] <04@Shadix> sorry
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[23:42:24] <04@Shadix> whoops
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[23:43:16] <04@Shadix> alright gogo
[23:43:43] <15+H_Hug> Hi there, uhm... sorry for not asking something more interesting, but yeah... it's been burning in my mind for the last ... close to 10 years
[23:43:50] <15+H_Hug> I, as well as two of my friends all own a copy of Comix Zone for the Genesis, which came with a CD of vocal versions of many of the game's tunes. I must say I love the music you did for it! However, I'd like to parrot Aquaslash's question about the lyrics.
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[23:43:59] <15+H_Hug> I didn't understand much of them, and what I did seemed quite random. Are the original lyrics still available anywhere? And am I to understand that these are intentionally made hard to understand as well? :)
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[23:44:59] <06@HowardDrossin> Uh...No...They just weren't very good lyrics. I had to write them really fast. I may have done some slurring
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[23:45:20] <15+H_Hug> Ah... that... probably explains a lot, I suppose. =)
[23:45:29] <06@HowardDrossin> Sadly yes
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[23:45:44] <15+H_Hug> But they're no longer available, then? Too bad.
[23:45:52] <04@Shadix> aight
[23:45:53] <04@Shadix> next
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[23:46:31] <06@HowardDrossin> I may try to dig them up. I've been asked a couple of times. 
[23:46:46] <15+xNight> Okay, what kind of limitations are there when composing for a cartridge system like that? I've heard that there's only like, 4 seperate layers available on the genesis
[23:46:46] <15+H_Hug> Ah, so I wasn't the only one, then. Good to know. =)
[23:47:03] <15+xNight> or something to that effect
[23:47:14] <15+SonicTweaker> xNight: Nine, actually
[23:47:17] <15+xNight> Oh
[23:47:18] <06@HowardDrossin> That is correct, plus one sample channel to share with sound efx
[23:47:38] <06@HowardDrossin> it is very difficult -- i used a front end program called GEMS
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[23:47:53] <04@Shadix> cool
[23:48:03] <15+xNight> Oh, alright. guess that's that
[23:48:08] <15+xNight> thanks, keep up the good work =D
[23:48:16] <15+SonicTweaker> HowardDrossin: Speaking of GEMS, your music is the only music that actually sounded GOOD with that engine. Was there something specific you did to make it sound better than most others?
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[23:48:49] <06@HowardDrossin> I worked hard at creating and sequencing my own instruments
[23:49:03] <15+Metal_Man88> Hello; nice to talk to you. I'm just wondering, Howard, what led to you working for Sega, and what was your favorite song you composed while you were doing songs for them?
[23:49:12] <06@HowardDrossin> I'm most proud of COMIX ZONE with reference to that
[23:49:22] <15+H_Hug> For good reason
[23:49:38] <15+SonicTweaker> Yeah, Comix Zone had some really good sounding guitars considering the YM2612's standard output in that regard
[23:49:49] <06@HowardDrossin> What led me to Sega: I was hired by Roger Hector
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[23:50:08] <06@HowardDrossin> My favorite song-- that's tough, probably something off Comix Zone
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[23:51:19] <15+Metal_Man88> Ah, well, nice to know. I'll let the next person go.
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[23:51:40] <15+GeoffreyTaucer> Hey, Howard. Again, thanks for agreeing to this interview. My question has several parts. First, did you write the Lava Reef zone theme for Sonic 3. Second, do you ever listen to remixes? Specifically, have you ever heard "Lover Reef," and if so, what did you think?
[23:51:52] <15+GeoffreyTaucer> And third (not so much a question as a humble request): I heard you will be attending MAGfest. Four of the five remixers behind "Lover Reef" will likely be attending. We would be deeply honored if you could find the time to stop by jamspace and allow us to pay tribute to your music in person with a live performance.
[23:53:05] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> uh Howard, if you were interested in that, I can personally make that happen as I run Jamspace at Magfest, just let me know.
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[23:53:26] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> you can think about it : )
[23:53:38] <06@HowardDrossin> I didn't name the tracks. I'm not sure if I wrote Lava Reef. I'd need to listen to it. I just handed music to the Sonic Team and they named it. I haven't heard any of he remixes. I know I need to do that. I didn't realize they were there until very recently.
[23:54:17] <15+SonicTweaker> Do you need some sort of reference to remind you of tracks you composed?
[23:54:26] <15+SonicTweaker> If so, I have a full mp3 listing of all the songs from the game
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[23:54:45] <15+SonicTweaker> But for Lava Reef specifically, there's this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo_4R17gYSY
[23:54:58] <06@HowardDrossin> I just need to hear them. Its been a very, very long time and I write a lot of music. I'm sorry.
[23:55:35] <15+GeoffreyTaucer> (that is one of my all time favorite game tunes)
[23:55:43] <04@Shadix> Hmm, so when you write your songs you do you not have a theme in mind?
[23:55:50] <15+GeoffreyTaucer> (though I really loved just about everything from sonic 3)
[23:56:03] <04@Shadix> Toxic Caves Taucer ;P
[23:56:11] <06@HowardDrossin> I'll check. 
[23:56:19] <06@HowardDrossin> Yes. from Sonic Spinball
[23:56:36] <04@Shadix> I was just stating that that is quite possibly the best videogame song ever.
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[23:57:26] <15+GeoffreyTaucer> do you typically play the games you compose for? Or just hand over the soundtrack? I guess what I'm asking is how much info do they give you before you have to start writing?
[23:58:02] <04@Shadix> Taucer asked my question alot better
[23:58:17] <06@HowardDrossin> I never used to play the games. I was just writing music. Now, I play them a bit.
[23:58:43] <06@HowardDrossin> Depends on the game. Some teams give a lot of information, some teams not so much
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[00:00:16] <15+GeoffreyTaucer> thanks
[00:00:26] <04@Shadix> alright
[00:00:39] <15+GeoffreyTaucer> somebody else can have a turn. Thanks again, Howard
[00:00:53] <06@HowardDrossin> Sure thanks
[00:00:57] <04@Shadix> alright
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[00:01:07] <04@Shadix> Kroze go
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[00:01:33] <15+Kroze> 1. How would YOU pronounce the word "queue"? 2. This now kinda is a problem since you said you didn't name the songs you did but Ice Cap Zone (for refrence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYxlqTpZ-24 ), one of the most remixed tunes from Sonic 3... and people come up with some really horrible stuff like this: http://icecap.ocremix.org/ do you regret it now? :P
[00:01:54] <15+SonicTweaker> Uhhhh
[00:02:03] <15+SonicTweaker> Drossin... didn't do Ice Cap
[00:02:07] <15+Kroze> Oh?
[00:02:09] <15+SonicTweaker> No
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[00:02:19] <04@Shadix> Tweaker:  We have no proof Jackson did it either
[00:02:26] <15+SonicTweaker> I didn't say Jackson did it
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[00:02:29] <15+Kroze> Still there is the first question...
[00:02:29] <04@Shadix> :>
[00:02:31] <06@HowardDrossin> Maybe cause I'm on a mac. I can't go to the links anyway. Won't let me copy it
[00:02:40] <04@Shadix> ah yes
[00:02:45] <04@Shadix> The PJIRC client
[00:03:22] <15+SonicTweaker> I do have an interesting question, one which isn't completely random and without direction
[00:03:40] <15+Kroze> Ah
[00:04:03] <15+SonicTweaker> Due to the rather random methods in which you were told to compose music for the game, were there any songs you composed that never made the cut (in other words, music that never made it into the game)?
[00:04:10] <15+SonicTweaker> This is referring to both Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles
[00:04:36] <06@HowardDrossin> Yes, a lot of my music never made it into the game. Likewise some of the tracks aren't mine
[00:04:52] <15+SonicTweaker> Do you have any copies of this music laying around at all?
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[00:05:01] <04@Shadix> :o, do you happen to still have these unused tracks somewhere?
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[00:05:16] <06@HowardDrossin> Probably in midi format
[00:05:30] <15+SonicTweaker> Do you think you could look for them? We'd love to hear them :)
[00:05:57] <06@HowardDrossin> Maybe at some point. Right now I'm slammed though.
[00:06:05] <04@Shadix> Like drunk? :o
[00:06:12] <06@HowardDrossin> haha I wish
[00:06:15] <04@Shadix> Ok
[00:06:17] <04@Shadix> Next up
[00:06:18] <15+H_Hug> That would be a treasure trove many of us Sonic fans would be eternally grateful for
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[00:07:28] <15+Donnyku> I would like to start out saying, I loved your remix "Return to Toxic Caves" on The Virtual Sonic album.
[00:07:40] <04@Shadix> holy smokes that track is amazing
[00:07:44] <15+Donnyku> now, unrelated to that, Did you work on the Sonic 3 or & Knuckles Credits? Because, recently, a proto of the combined Sonic 3 & Knuckles was found, and in it, it had a new mix for the credits that had the Sonic 3 Level music into the melody. Any reason why it wasn't kept? http://donnyku.nothingforfree.com/Sonic%203K%20Alt%20Credits.mp3 is the one I speak of.
[00:07:48] <06@HowardDrossin> Thanks. Now that track I remember
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[00:07:59] <15+Donnyku> haha
[00:08:05] <06@HowardDrossin> The first I wrote at SEGA
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[00:09:29] <06@HowardDrossin> I can't go to the link you're pointing me to. Sorry. I don't think I had anything to do with this track
[00:09:35] <04@Shadix> Oh, so you wrote the SONIC 3 credits?
[00:09:36] <15+Donnyku> ah
[00:09:46] <04@Shadix> or the fanfare ending?
[00:10:20] <15+Donnyku> also, did you do all the Spinball music including the remix of the original Sonic theme that was replaced with the current one?
[00:10:40] <04@Shadix> I wish I could link you to it
[00:10:48] <04@Shadix> Because this would be something big
[00:10:50] <06@HowardDrossin> I wrote a lot music for Sonic 3 but I don't know how much of it got in. I have never played the game (sorry). Afterward I was working on another game and didn't look back.
[00:11:02] <04@Shadix> How bout I email you the links
[00:11:05] <15+Donnyku> did you try clicking the link?
[00:11:05] <04@Shadix> real quick
[00:11:10] <04@Shadix> and we'll move on
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[00:11:25] <15+Donnyku> I know some java clients open them when clicked/double clicked
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[00:11:46] <06@HowardDrossin> OK email them to me. 
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[00:12:17] <06@HowardDrossin> I don't understand Donnyku's question. 
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[00:13:04] <15+zircon> Hey Howard, I'm one of the site staff over at ocremix.org, which is a community of mostly hobbyist musicians that do free arrangements and remixes of video game music. I thought you might like to know (first) that Sonic 3 is easily among the most popular games in terms of number of remixes
[00:13:44] <15+zircon> I know you said you haven't heard any of the Sonic 3 remixes yet (or not ours, at least), but I was curious as to what your stance is on fans remixing music of yours and your colleagues
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[00:14:05] <06@HowardDrossin> There were a lot of composers on Sonic 3. I was one. I don't want to take credit for anyone else's music. You should know that.
[00:14:32] <06@HowardDrossin> I think remixing is great and I'm flattered by it.
[00:15:42] <15+SonicTweaker> HowardDrossin: You mentioned you'd be able to share that unused music at one point--when you do, would you be able to email it to Shadix or something similar?
[00:15:49] <15+zircon> That's very good to hear :-)
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[00:17:06] <04@Shadix> ok
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[00:17:16] <06@HowardDrossin> This could be a while. I didn't ever think anyone would be interested and am not quite sure where it is anymore...
[00:17:40] <15+SonicTweaker> On the contrary--interest is quite high! You'd be surprised :)
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[00:17:50] <15+SonicTweaker> But sure, take your time
[00:17:50] <15+Donnyku> The Sonic Community especially is fond ot "lost" stuff
[00:17:56] <06@HowardDrossin> I am!!! Wow.
[00:18:06] <15+zircon> Yeah, just to interject briefly, I'd estimate that remixes from Sonic 3 have probably been downloaded hundreds of thousands of times...
[00:18:11] <15+zircon> from OCremix.org alone
[00:18:42] <15+zircon> Only gets more and more popular :)
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[00:19:25] <06@HowardDrossin> That's cool. 
[00:19:28] <04@Shadix> alright Zirc you got everything out you wanted to say?
[00:19:36] <15+zircon> yes! thank you
[00:19:38] <15+ScarredSun> Once again, Mr. Drossin, I'd like to thank you for taking the time to speak with us tonight.
[00:19:39] <04@Shadix> sweet
[00:19:45] <04@Shadix> (btw Howard I sent that email)
[00:19:49] <06@HowardDrossin> Sure
[00:20:43] <15+ScarredSun> After your work on Comix Zone in 1995, it seems you had less involvement with Sega than you had been from 1993-1995; there was Dynamite Cop in 1997 and Alien Front Online in 2001. What did you do in these years between 95 and 01? Did Sega ask for your help in other projects? Were you working for other companies?
[00:20:58] <04@Shadix> He makes movie scores now fyi
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[00:22:00] <06@HowardDrossin> Also worked for Activision (Vigilante 8) and Interplay (Baldur's Gate)
[00:22:19] <06@HowardDrossin> Did a theme park Universal Islands of Adventure
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[00:22:35] <06@HowardDrossin> I left Sega in 96
[00:23:03] <15+ScarredSun> Ah. Wasn't exactly clear when that was. Thanks!
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[00:24:17] <06@HowardDrossin> FYi. Sonic 3 credits I did NOT write the music for.
[00:24:51] <04@Shadix> alright
[00:25:16] <04@Shadix> I was worried we had an earth shattering revelation here
[00:25:49] <04@Shadix> alright next up
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[00:25:54] <06@HowardDrossin> That MJ video is scaring me
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[00:26:06] <15+Prime_2> it scares us too.
[00:26:11] <15+jman2050> Thank you for your time Howard
[00:26:14] <15+jman2050> I am wondering one thing
[00:26:16] <04@Shadix> The similarities or the disgustingness of him?
[00:26:22] <04@Shadix> as a human
[00:26:25] <04@Shadix> :E
[00:26:28] <15+Prime_2> CH'MON
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[00:26:34] <15+jman2050> in Sonic and Knuckles (and Sonic 3 for that matter), each level basically had two versions of the same song, one for each act
[00:26:43] <15+Prime_2> shadix, you D/C'd or something
[00:26:50] <15+jman2050> Did you compose two different versions of a song, or was it just a single song you composed and was remixed later?
[00:26:55] <15+Prime_2> did you shut down the cast for some reason?
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[00:27:09] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> the case went offline cause skype died or something
[00:27:13] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> *cast
[00:27:16] <15+Donnyku> Shadix, could I be added to the end of that queue should there be any time left?
[00:27:18] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> it'll be back in a sec.
[00:27:28] <06@HowardDrossin> I only composed single versions
[00:27:47] <15+SonicTweaker> Do you know who was responsible for creating the remixes?
[00:28:07] <06@HowardDrossin> On the genesis?
[00:28:28] <15+SonicTweaker> Well, in any form, really; I don't know if they were specific to the console itself or if there were MIDIs made for the remixes as well
[00:28:35] <15+SonicTweaker> I know you're not responsible for the sound programming
[00:29:41] <06@HowardDrossin> That would be Setsu doing the remix
[00:30:01] <15+SonicTweaker> Aha! Thank you
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[00:30:41] <06@HowardDrossin> Setsu was the genius behind the Sonic sound
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[00:31:25] <15+Prime_2> genius he must have been.
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[00:31:44] <04@Shadix> mrMAGFest you're on
[00:31:44] <15+Prime_2> we're still using those sounds, be it in fangames or official games.
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[00:31:48] <04@Shadix> Cellphone wait
[00:31:53] <15+MrMAGFest_cellphone> First of all, my apologies if this message gets cut off....cellphones on irc are not my friend
[00:32:04] <04@Shadix> Cellphones on IRC?
[00:32:07] <04@Shadix> ok
[00:32:08] <04@Shadix> whatever
[00:32:16] <15+MrMAGFest_cellphone> Hey Howard, good to see you here! The easy question is: who did the sega singing in the comix boot screen? hard question, is there any game composing horror story you want to share (other than the usual deadlines which i'm sure suck pretty hardcore as it stands)? or perhaps, a composing gig you really wanted but didn't get?
[00:32:48] <06@HowardDrossin> Easy question = I did
[00:32:51] <15+H_Hog> Ah, the "Test 1-2.... SeeeGaaaa!"
[00:33:01] <15+H_Hog> Hahaha, that was a cool one :D
[00:33:03] <15+MrMAGFest_cellphone> hahaha, I had a feeling about that..
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[00:33:43] <06@HowardDrossin> I had to write and program a new theme for SEGA Spinball in around 1 hour.
[00:34:12] <06@HowardDrossin> I thought that was cool :-)
[00:34:13] <15+MrMAGFest_cellphone> as in, the titlescreen or main theme music?
[00:34:33] <04@Shadix> That little jingle that plays when you turn it on
[00:34:34] <06@HowardDrossin> The title Spinball screen
[00:34:44] <15+H_Hog> Wow. That... that's one impressive deadline.
[00:34:50] <04@Shadix> oh
[00:34:53] <04@Shadix> nvrmnd
[00:35:01] <15+MrMAGFest_cellphone> cool! remind me to tell you about one-hour competitions at magfest then =]
[00:35:02] <15+Donnyku> well, you anwsered my question from earlier that I think you didn't understand
[00:35:05] <15+jman2050> it was originally the Sonic 1 main theme
[00:35:16] <15+jman2050> they found out at the last minute that DCT owned the song
[00:35:19] <15+MrMAGFest_cellphone> looking forward to meeting you there. thanks for answering!
[00:35:21] <15+jman2050> and Sega didn't want to pay royalties
[00:35:38] <15+jman2050> so they had to make a new one
[00:36:04] <06@HowardDrossin> That's right Jman
[00:36:43] <06@HowardDrossin> See you there. I don't do the 1 hour challenges anymore. At least not by choice.
[00:37:03] <04@Shadix> and your royalties were cheaper or something?
[00:37:05] <04@Shadix> :E
[00:37:11] <15+H_Hog> Heh. Well, for the time you got to make it, it's a pretty catchy title tune. =)
[00:37:14] <06@HowardDrossin> a bit
[00:37:24] <06@HowardDrossin> thanks
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[00:38:46] <15+JEV3> ok here's the question...
[00:38:52] <15+JEV3> The levels in Sonic3K and most other games generally fit to a certain theme or element. Were there any musical elements you incorporated that helped to associate it with the theme?
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[00:40:03] <06@HowardDrossin> Again, I handed music off to the sonic team. they were using a front end i was not familiar with that was the extent of my work on that game (for Sonic 3.)
[00:40:46] <06@HowardDrossin> Most games do follow a specific theme
[00:41:50] <06@HowardDrossin>  I generally accomplish this by doing several before the project and then creating variations or work off of them
[00:41:51] <04@Shadix> I'd presume you did the entire Sonic & Knuckles Soundtrack.
[00:42:02] <04@Shadix> As in the credits you are the only one credited
[00:42:36] <06@HowardDrossin> no -- i did not do the entire soundtrack. Some tracks were from Japanese composers. I'm not sure if all were credited. 
[00:42:52] <04@Shadix> Sonic 3's lists a bunch of people who ironically also worked with Michael Jackson.
[00:43:02] <04@Shadix> So I don't get it
[00:43:05] <04@Shadix> Anyways
[00:43:06] <15+JEV3> basically, for example, to make the Ice Cap music have sort of an icy sound... or did you just do the melody and not intend for it to have a specific sound?
[00:43:12] <15+JEV3> just an example
[00:43:16] <15+JEV3> not saying you made Ice Cap
[00:43:16] <06@HowardDrossin> Sega didn't do the best with credits - hence Drossin Howard on one game
[00:43:23] <04@Shadix> HAHA
[00:43:24] <15+H_Hog> Again, Drossin didn't do Ice Cap
[00:43:31] <15+H_Hog> ah
[00:43:33] <06@HowardDrossin> ha no ice cap
[00:43:44] <04@Shadix> I hope you don't mind but we are going to have to kick this up
[00:44:16] <15+JEV3> yeah it was just the first thing that came to mind to use as an example...
[00:44:33] <04@Shadix> We have a few questions left, and I don't think anyone asked about Sonic Xtreme
[00:44:47] <06@HowardDrossin> I do not know where some of the music game from. 
[00:45:00] <15+Donnyku> I was going to
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[00:45:12] <04@Shadix> Oh hey
[00:45:12] <04@Shadix> lol
[00:45:15] <15+Donnyku> speak of the devil
[00:45:15] <15+H_Hog> ....wow
[00:45:18] <04@Shadix> Here's senn to ask himself
[00:45:20] <15+H_Hog> that was perfect timing
[00:45:24] <04@Shadix> A GUEST APPROACHES
[00:45:28] <15+JEV3> hey Senntient lol
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[00:45:34] <15+senntient> lol - hey!
[00:45:37] <15+JEV3> ok well I guess my questions done
[00:45:39] <15+senntient> sup peeps! =D
[00:45:43] <04@Shadix> Senntient cuts and asks himself!
[00:45:45] <15+senntient> I have about 5 minutes...
[00:45:58] <06@HowardDrossin> Connie!
[00:46:01] <15+senntient> LOL
[00:46:04] <15+senntient> Hey Howard!!!
[00:46:08] <15+senntient> I was gonna say that!
[00:46:11] <06@HowardDrossin> What up homie
[00:46:12] <15+senntient> hoit!
[00:46:26] <15+senntient> Nada... how the heck have you been, Mr. Father Man?!
[00:46:40] <06@HowardDrossin> have a b-day party tomorrow
[00:46:46] <06@HowardDrossin> 6 & 1
[00:46:56] <15+senntient> Ohhhhh really?  DANG!  That's about my mental age right there...
[00:46:56] <06@HowardDrossin> doin good
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[00:47:01] <15+JEV3> someone was going to ask about his apparent involvement in X-treme
[00:47:02] <15+Donnyku> congrats
[00:47:05] <06@HowardDrossin> haha
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[00:47:09] <06@HowardDrossin> thanks
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[00:47:17] <15+senntient> Congratulations... I'm glad... we should lunch one day man - ketchup and mustard.
[00:47:17] <06@HowardDrossin> how about you?
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[00:47:42] <06@HowardDrossin> OK sounds good. Where are you?
[00:48:00] <15+senntient> Doing good - I'm in the city of angels... or so it's called...
[00:48:09] <15+senntient> You too, huh?
[00:48:16] <06@HowardDrossin> yeah
[00:48:36] <04@Shadix> :>
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[00:48:41] <15+senntient> cool - do me a favor when this is done?  Bookmark my website (senntient.com)... and drop me a line when you have time...
[00:48:52] <06@HowardDrossin> sure
[00:48:54] <04@Shadix> Since you are here Senn, I'll ask while you're here.
[00:48:58] <15+senntient> k cool...
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[00:49:29] <15+senntient> yeah shoot Shadix... (and what did I miss?  Did Howard share some juicy goodness about his career and skills???)
[00:49:37] <04@Shadix> Supposedly you worked on a soundtrack to Sonic Xtreme.  Did this ever come to fruitation and does any of it possibly recide anywhere?
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[00:50:00] <04@Shadix> Correct me if I'm wrong Senn
[00:50:27] <15+senntient> Me?  All I did was a bunch of conceptual music... quick little pieces... none of them finished.  Howard's the one who did actual finished pieces (a couple, I think, right Howard?)... my crap is at the Xtreme site.
[00:50:45] <15+senntient> You still have any of that Howard?
[00:50:55] <06@HowardDrossin> yes i did. have it somewhere...
[00:51:09] <06@HowardDrossin> I actually may know where that is
[00:51:27] <15+senntient> cool.  Would love to hear it - I remember an orchestral piece of the snow level (Crystal Frost maybe)...
[00:51:34] <15+senntient> That's what she said
[00:51:36] <15+senntient> cool!
[00:51:39] <15+senntient> CONNIE!
[00:51:41] <15+senntient> lol
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[00:51:46] <06@HowardDrossin> lol
[00:52:00] <04@Shadix> and maybe if your a nice guy you'll release it on Senn's Sonic X Compenduem if you can find it. :3
[00:52:13] <04@Shadix> I would LOVE to hear some of them
[00:52:21] <06@HowardDrossin> OK. 
[00:52:28] <15+senntient> Or wherever you want
[00:52:28] <04@Shadix> :3
[00:52:30] <15+Donnyku> I'm sure everyone would
[00:52:32] <15+senntient> Me 3
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[00:52:48] <15+senntient> So have you shared any bits about where your career path has led since STI, Howard?
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[00:53:10] <04@Shadix> I said a snippit, but I'd like to hear it more indepth
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[00:53:13] <06@HowardDrossin> a little
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[00:53:42] <15+senntient> Hmm... did you do any music scoring before STI?
[00:53:51] <15+Donnyku> He does movies these days, and currently 2 games
[00:53:54] <15+senntient> oh... oops - sorry about butting in with q's... I'll wait.
[00:54:13] <04@Shadix> oh no it's alright if Drossin is ok with going over
[00:54:26] <06@HowardDrossin> Before: WOLF true life adventure for Disney (someone else got my credit though)
[00:54:36] <04@Shadix> I don't think anyone is going to contest you trying to get back in contact with an old friend Chris
[00:54:37] <15+senntient> no worries - I only want to know info he hasn't shared already... (I can ask him later for redundant stuff)
[00:54:46] <15+senntient> *jerk*
[00:55:07] <15+senntient> (that was directed towards whoever stole Howard's credit)
[00:55:15] <06@HowardDrossin> After: Vigilante 8, Baldur's Gate: TOB, Shadows of AMN, a couple of movies, most recently The Protector (Tony Jaa).
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[00:55:32] <15+senntient> Hey - didn't that happen at Sega too?  I remember your name getting snuffed or put in a corner when you did the work for something...
[00:55:57] <15+senntient> Tony "JAAAAAA" (a la Comix Zone Joe Pencil imitation you used to do LOL)
[00:56:04] <06@HowardDrossin> I've always had bad luck with credits.
[00:56:18] <06@HowardDrossin> lol
[00:56:51] <15+senntient> People don't appreciate how important credit is... people can work so hard for something... and to be recognized with credit is sort of a basic thing. =/
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[00:57:10] <06@HowardDrossin> yeah. 
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[00:58:00] <15+senntient> Who's next in the queue (who came up with the spelling of that word anyway???)...?
[00:58:09] <15+senntient> I have a few questions when others have asked theirs...
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[00:58:13] <04@Slingerland> a french man, Chris
[00:58:19] <04@Slingerland> lol
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[00:59:36] <04@Shadix> gogogogo
[00:59:52] <15+senntient> One thing that has helped this before... if anyone has a question, type it out separately then copy/paste it when your turn comes up to ask...
[01:00:07] <15+senntient> Instead of figuring it out when it's your turn =)
[01:00:08] <15+Donnyku> sorry to cut in, but did you have anything to do with Knucles Chaotix for the 32x?
[01:00:22] <04@Shadix> Donny
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[01:00:29] <15+Donnyku> I
[01:00:30] <04@Shadix> We're kindof in a hurry to wrap things up
[01:00:35] <15+Donnyku> 'll shut up, sorry
[01:00:37] <04@Shadix> :E
[01:00:41] <04@Shadix> It's too late now
[01:01:03] <06@HowardDrossin> I wrote a Knuckles theme
[01:01:25] <15+NeoHazard> I don't have a question, as usual. Count me outs.
[01:01:33] <15+NeoHazard> Hi though Howard
[01:01:46] <06@HowardDrossin> hi
[01:02:54] <04@Shadix> k
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[01:03:20] <15+senntient> Howard - check the flashing text to the left... sent you a private message
[01:03:27] <04@Shadix> ok
[01:03:34] <04@Shadix> I can't find my queue
[01:03:37] <04@Shadix> so I'll ask one
[01:03:38] <15+Furyhunter> CAPTAIN RAAINBOOOOOOOW
[01:03:45] <04@Shadix> that I had a LONG time ago
[01:03:45] <06@HowardDrossin> I'm on a mac no flashing text.
[01:03:47] <15+senntient> Endri then Dyne?
[01:03:49] <04@Shadix> If you composed the Sonic 3/Knuckles soundtrack in MIDI/GEMS, do you think it was used in Sonic and Knuckles Collection?
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[01:04:16] <06@HowardDrossin> Haven't heard it
[01:04:26] <04@Shadix> hmm
[01:04:32] <04@Shadix> I guess that's a good point
[01:04:47] <04@Shadix> I'll send you a big email with links and stuff for you to listen to later
[01:04:52] <04@Shadix> after this is done
[01:04:57] <04@Shadix> next is Endri
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[01:05:29] <04@Shadix> umm
[01:05:37] <04@Shadix> I think he is gone?
[01:05:41] <04@Shadix> ok
[01:05:43] <15+senntient> *drum roll*
[01:05:49] <06@HowardDrossin> ?
[01:05:54] <15+senntient> *cymbal crash*
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[01:06:01] <15+Donnyku> Holy Underwear Batman!
[01:06:06] <15+Dyne> Hi
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[01:06:09] <15+Dyne> Thank you for being here this evening, Mr. Drossin. My question has to do with what equipment/gear you use when you are working on any of your composing projects, do you have your own home-based studio, or do you use a regular recording studio, and what gear do you use/prefer?
[01:06:14] <04@Shadix> Dyne, Puto
[01:06:45] <06@HowardDrossin> Yes, I have my own studio. I sequence w/ Digital Performer
[01:07:13] <06@HowardDrossin> I use Kontakt, Giga, and many other things
[01:07:28] <06@HowardDrossin> Live guitars
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[01:08:27] <15+Dyne> That's awesome. Thank you.
[01:08:39] <15+Puto> Given that most of the music in Sonic Pocket Adventure are 8-bit versions of the Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles music, did you have anything to do with that game at all?
[01:08:51] <15+Donnyku> well, Howard could be added to the Wikipedia list for users of Ditital Performer
[01:09:08] <06@HowardDrossin> nothing to do w/ pocket adventure. that sounds sick
[01:09:18] <15+senntient> LOL
[01:09:38] <15+senntient> You did the soundtrack for that, remember?  Using the Korg Skin Flute?
[01:09:45] <15+senntient> =P
[01:09:46] <15+Dyne> ROFL
[01:09:48] <06@HowardDrossin> haha
[01:10:16] <04@Shadix> MagicMan_EXE
[01:10:21] <15+Puto> also, do you still have the original MIDI compositions of the songs you did for sonic 3 and sonic & knuckles?
03[01:10:38] * Shadix sets mode: +v MagicMan_EXE
[01:10:55] <15+MagicMan_EXE> Greetings, Howard, it's an honor to speak to you. I was wondering what the conditions were like when you were working for/with the SEGA Technical Institute?
[01:11:06] <06@HowardDrossin> I may only have some midi files. I'll give them to Senn to sort thru. :-)
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[01:11:28] <15+Puto> does that include the unused music?
[01:11:42] <06@HowardDrossin> Nice offices, nice people. 
[01:11:58] <06@HowardDrossin> steady pay
[01:12:28] <06@HowardDrossin> to Puto - yeah, unused music
[01:12:30] <15+senntient> interesting people to imitate
[01:12:55] <15+Donnyku> I know I said I'd stop, but could I ask about this "Connie!"? 
[01:12:58] <04@Shadix> I'm sorry this has been such a digging interview.  People had alot of big questions to ask, sorry we didn't get to ask about more personal stuff.
[01:13:19] <15+MagicMan_EXE> Thank you for taking the time to answer my question, Howard. You too, Chris.
[01:13:37] <04@Shadix> Alright guys, we're gonna wrap this up now.  Howards been here for 2 hours
[01:13:43] <15+senntient> np - wish I didn't miss the interview - didn't know Howard was here so long!!!
[01:13:50] <15+Dyne> We definitely appreciate it.
[01:14:04] <15+senntient> You're a trooper, Howard. =D
[01:14:05] <15+Donnyku> yes we do, thanks for everything Howard
[01:14:05] <06@HowardDrossin> my pleasure.
[01:14:17] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> thanks Howard.  see you at Magfest.
[01:14:27] <04@Shadix> I'll probably see you there too
[01:14:39] <15+senntient> not if he sees you first
[01:14:41] <06@HowardDrossin> cool. see ya there
[01:14:45] <15+Donnyku> I'd love to, but lack of job makes it hard to do
[01:14:49] <04@Shadix> Senn go!
[01:15:00] <04@Shadix> omg
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[01:15:33] <04@Shadix> Go to MAGfest Senn! :3
[01:15:38] <15+Dyne> MAGFest will be excellent. More musicians and gamers than you can shake a stick at. I was there in January, it was hella fun
[01:15:51] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> yea if you guys want to perform just get in touch with me
[01:15:55] <15+Dyne> The absolute best feature was JamSpace.
[01:15:56] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> I can arrange that in our jam stage
[01:16:00] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> at jamspace
[01:16:06] <15+senntient> Next January?  k - I'll definitely try to make it =D
[01:16:14] <04@DomsLiveVideogameMusic> yep : )
[01:16:38] <15+senntient> Sounds like a crowd celebrating the Inquirer and Star...
[01:16:48] <06@HowardDrossin> peace out
[01:16:55] <04@Shadix> cya Drossin
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