DKLDarkRaven: Hello, your a christian right?
blufrawg10: yup
blufrawg10: u ok?
DKLDarkRaven: i am not one
DKLDarkRaven: and i had a question about it
blufrawg10: ok
DKLDarkRaven: how does God have fun? i mean....he tells us to obey him or go to hell, then he gives us free will, isn't that kinda like slavery?
blufrawg10: how does God have fun?
blufrawg10: thats an odd question
DKLDarkRaven: yes, does he have fun by makin us suffer?
blufrawg10: i duno if fun is quite the word
blufrawg10: no
blufrawg10: he is a loving God
DKLDarkRaven: but he sends us to hell
blufrawg10: God doesnt make us suffer... satan is the sewer of sin
blufrawg10: no we send ourselves to hell
blufrawg10: our sin sends us to hell
DKLDarkRaven: what is considered a sin?
blufrawg10: u know what sin is
blufrawg10: and we all are sinners
DKLDarkRaven: so, thinking of the next door neighbor girl is a sin?
blufrawg10: thinkin of her how?
DKLDarkRaven: doing things with her
blufrawg10: yes it is a sin
blufrawg10: it is commiting fornication in your heart
DKLDarkRaven: but she is single
DKLDarkRaven: how is that wrong?
blufrawg10: and in the Bible God says so as a man thinketh in his heart so is he
blufrawg10: not adultry... fornication
blufrawg10: that is sex be4 marriage bla bla
DKLDarkRaven: lol
DKLDarkRaven: so,if i think of her, i send myself to hell?
blufrawg10: no
blufrawg10: there is deliverence from hell
blufrawg10: and God is a loving and 4giving God
blufrawg10: all u have to do is ask
DKLDarkRaven: and, do you hear his voice talk to you? could this possibly be just something in your head, some sort of mental thing?
blufrawg10: it is not an audible voice...
blufrawg10: it is called faith.. and if u were a christian and had trusted christ u would feel it too
DKLDarkRaven: then how do you know you hear him? i mean, it's not like you can read thoughts
blufrawg10: its not explainble if u havent experienced it
blufrawg10: i can read his word...
blufrawg10: that is good enough
blufrawg10: and u can feel His direction in yuour life
DKLDarkRaven: so, since you beleive something that was written by humans, and translated and remade 1,000's of times...i could write something, and say it was from an alien, and have it around for a really long time, and people will beleive it?
blufrawg10: see... your not exact on your history bubs
blufrawg10: i cant help or talk to u if your mind is already set against it all
DKLDarkRaven: but, how did god write it himself, he told people to write it
blufrawg10: he inspired people
blufrawg10: if the Bible wasnt true... then why have they been unable to prove it wrong?
blufrawg10: it is infallible
DKLDarkRaven: someone they can't see inspired them? lol, they arent able to prove it is true either
blufrawg10: yes they are
blufrawg10: if it is not false... that leaves only one choice
DKLDarkRaven: and if it isn't true, then you wasted most of your life on it, am i correct?
blufrawg10: well i know its true
blufrawg10: and i didnt waste my whole life.. i wasnt exactly born into christianity ok
DKLDarkRaven: we'll see......as soon as we die.....and if i am right...i would make you pay up for being wrong....but we would both be dead...
DKLDarkRaven: hey, calm down, your suppose to be nice
DKLDarkRaven: like god is
blufrawg10: who said im bein mean?
blufrawg10: im just telling u how it is ...
DKLDarkRaven: you had that tone up there...
blufrawg10: so how do u know God is nice if u dont belive in him?
DKLDarkRaven: you said he was.....and you beleive it
blufrawg10: yes i do
blufrawg10: but u dont
blufrawg10: so that makes our understanding of things quite different
DKLDarkRaven: yes, but your not even trying to see it how i am
blufrawg10: listen... i have seen it like u...
blufrawg10: i wasnt a christian until about the 8th grade...
blufrawg10: i grew up in a public school i heard all the junk u do
blufrawg10: about coming from a monkey
DKLDarkRaven: and yet, you aren;'t doing good with argueing agaisnt my beleifs....that's sad..
blufrawg10: and how a lil particle came and wammm we were all made
blufrawg10: the earth that is
blufrawg10: actually my job isnt to argue against u ...
blufrawg10: my job is to speak the truth..
DKLDarkRaven: and to convince others, correct?
blufrawg10: if u chose not to believe in God ... and when u die without him. as your savior... and your in hell for an eternity. u will look back and remember every time someone talked to u abotu God
blufrawg10: u will never rest...
blufrawg10: and never be free of pain
DKLDarkRaven: and, what if god shows that you coulda helped me, but didn't, you would have to live with that to correct?
blufrawg10: no.. u see ... ive told u the truth.. its not my place to force salvation upon u...
blufrawg10: its somethin in your own heart..
blufrawg10: that u have to want
DKLDarkRaven: i see....and, why do you want christ/
blufrawg10: where u will spend eternity is your chioce
blufrawg10: be4 i became a christian... i was into some things that would have eventually ruined my life and or killed me..
blufrawg10: but now ... i have no desire for them .. and im a new person ..
DKLDarkRaven: what made you want to change?
blufrawg10: i heard the truth...
blufrawg10: i went to church for a few months with my friend....
blufrawg10: and at first i wasl ike umm ok this is lame
DKLDarkRaven: lol
blufrawg10: like u ... i didnt believe
blufrawg10: then ...
blufrawg10: the more i heard... and thouht about it .. and began studying about it ...
blufrawg10: i finally trusted christ as my savior
DKLDarkRaven: but, what was so special about it, that moved you into beleiving somethin you only read, and cannot see? i mean, i could faith in aliens being real
blufrawg10: i can feel..
blufrawg10: i can see a change..
blufrawg10: it is different
DKLDarkRaven: couldn't it just be that you convinced yourself in your mind htat it's real, and deny all fact that it isn't?
DKLDarkRaven: ignorance is bliss they say
blufrawg10: nope
blufrawg10: i dont let what other people say affect me. ..
DKLDarkRaven: yet, you let the religion thing affect you
blufrawg10: some scientist is not gona define my emotions and tell me what to think or belive
blufrawg10: no... God affects me
DKLDarkRaven: but all things god say, are translated through humans for us to hear them
blufrawg10: through men of God
blufrawg10: and that is why... i read the old king James version
DKLDarkRaven: the thou one?
blufrawg10: the first interpretation of the hebrew bible
DKLDarkRaven: of god is so nice, then why does he curse us for what our forefathers did eons ago?
blufrawg10: God gave us free will.....
blufrawg10: we sinned
blufrawg10: not God
blufrawg10: if he wanted us to be puppets then he would have made it that way
blufrawg10: u can blame satan for sin
blufrawg10: and for all of us not bein in heaven now ...
DKLDarkRaven: why not just kill satan then? god is strong right?
blufrawg10: he will destroy satan....
blufrawg10: he will be cast into the lake of fire...
blufrawg10: and the unsaved will be cast into hell
DKLDarkRaven: so, he lets satan make us suffer while he sets up their and waits?
blufrawg10: no...
blufrawg10: he gives u the chance
blufrawg10: u have already been givin the chance....
blufrawg10: so its not Gods fault u continue to reject him
DKLDarkRaven: well, if he would do somethin to prove to me he is there.....then i might
blufrawg10: no u see...
blufrawg10: thats not faith
DKLDarkRaven: but, didn't the people of old time stray after each miracle until he did another to prove he was there?
blufrawg10: give me an incident ... God used those miracles.. to manifest his son Christ
DKLDarkRaven: he turned water into wine
DKLDarkRaven: the people followed
DKLDarkRaven: he turned somethin into food....they followed
blufrawg10: the people... were not neccasarily unsaved then...
blufrawg10: that just was a way 4 christ to show them he could do anything... and to give them some more faith
DKLDarkRaven: so, i am damned because they messed up and i cannot see god now?
blufrawg10: nope
blufrawg10: you will be damned because u dont accept christ and thas about it
DKLDarkRaven: you cursed.....
blufrawg10: actually no
DKLDarkRaven: you said damned
blufrawg10: that means cursed
blufrawg10: condemned
blufrawg10 signed on at 4:40:28 PM.
DKLDarkRaven: well, it is time for supper, i will continue this some other time, while you sit at home and be bored, i will be out partying
blufrawg10 signed off at 4:40:56 PM.