DKLDarkRaven: Hello, your a christian
blufrawg10: u ok?
DKLDarkRaven: i am not one
DKLDarkRaven: and i had a question
DKLDarkRaven: how does God have fun? i
mean....he tells us to obey him or go to
hell, then he gives us free will, isn't that
kinda like slavery?
blufrawg10: how does God have fun?
blufrawg10: thats an odd question
DKLDarkRaven: yes, does he have fun by
makin us suffer?
blufrawg10: i duno if fun is quite the word
blufrawg10: he is a loving God
DKLDarkRaven: but he sends us to hell
blufrawg10: God doesnt make us suffer...
satan is the sewer of sin
blufrawg10: no we send ourselves to hell
blufrawg10: our sin sends us to hell
DKLDarkRaven: what is considered a sin?
blufrawg10: u know what sin is
blufrawg10: and we all are sinners
DKLDarkRaven: so, thinking of the next
door neighbor girl is a sin?
blufrawg10: thinkin of her how?
DKLDarkRaven: doing things with her
blufrawg10: yes it is a sin
blufrawg10: it is commiting fornication in
DKLDarkRaven: but she is single
DKLDarkRaven: how is that wrong?
blufrawg10: and in the Bible God says so
as a man thinketh in his heart so is he
blufrawg10: not adultry... fornication
blufrawg10: that is sex be4 marriage bla
DKLDarkRaven: so,if i think of her, i send
myself to hell?
blufrawg10: there is deliverence from hell
blufrawg10: and God is a loving and
blufrawg10: all u have to do is ask
DKLDarkRaven: and, do you hear his voice
talk to you? could this possibly be just
something in your head, some sort of
blufrawg10: it is not an audible voice...
blufrawg10: it is called faith.. and if u
were a christian and had trusted christ
u would feel it too
DKLDarkRaven: then how do you know
you hear him? i mean, it's not like you
can read thoughts
blufrawg10: its not explainble if u havent
blufrawg10: i can read his word...
blufrawg10: that is good enough
blufrawg10: and u can feel His direction
in yuour life
DKLDarkRaven: so, since you beleive
something that was written by humans,
and translated and remade 1,000's of
times...i could write something, and say it
was from an alien, and have it around for
a really long time, and people will beleive
blufrawg10: see... your not exact on your
blufrawg10: i cant help or talk to u if your
mind is already set against it all
DKLDarkRaven: but, how did god write it
himself, he told people to write it
blufrawg10: he inspired people
blufrawg10: if the Bible wasnt true... then
why have they been unable to prove it
blufrawg10: it is infallible
DKLDarkRaven: someone they can't see
inspired them? lol, they arent able to
prove it is true either
blufrawg10: yes they are
blufrawg10: if it is not false... that leaves
only one choice
DKLDarkRaven: and if it isn't true, then
you wasted most of your life on it, am i
blufrawg10: well i know its true
blufrawg10: and i didnt waste my whole
life.. i wasnt exactly born into
DKLDarkRaven: we'll see......as soon as we
die.....and if i am right...i would make
you pay up for being wrong....but we
would both be dead...
DKLDarkRaven: hey, calm down, your
suppose to be nice
DKLDarkRaven: like god is
blufrawg10: who said im bein mean?
blufrawg10: im just telling u how it is ...
DKLDarkRaven: you had that tone up
blufrawg10: so how do u know God is
nice if u dont belive in him?
DKLDarkRaven: you said he was.....and
you beleive it
blufrawg10: yes i do
blufrawg10: but u dont
blufrawg10: so that makes our
understanding of things quite different
DKLDarkRaven: yes, but your not even
trying to see it how i am
blufrawg10: listen... i have seen it like u...
blufrawg10: i wasnt a christian until
about the 8th grade...
blufrawg10: i grew up in a public school i
heard all the junk u do
blufrawg10: about coming from a monkey
DKLDarkRaven: and yet, you aren;'t doing
good with argueing agaisnt my
blufrawg10: and how a lil particle came
and wammm we were all made
blufrawg10: the earth that is
blufrawg10: actually my job isnt to argue
against u ...
blufrawg10: my job is to speak the truth..
DKLDarkRaven: and to convince others,
blufrawg10: if u chose not to believe in
God ... and when u die without him. as
your savior... and your in hell for an
eternity. u will look back and
remember every time someone talked
to u abotu God
blufrawg10: u will never rest...
blufrawg10: and never be free of pain
DKLDarkRaven: and, what if god shows
that you coulda helped me, but didn't,
you would have to live with that to
blufrawg10: no.. u see ... ive told u the
truth.. its not my place to force
salvation upon u...
blufrawg10: its somethin in your own
blufrawg10: that u have to want
DKLDarkRaven: i see....and, why do you
blufrawg10: where u will spend eternity is
blufrawg10: be4 i became a christian... i
was into some things that would have
eventually ruined my life and or killed
blufrawg10: but now ... i have no desire
for them .. and im a new person ..
DKLDarkRaven: what made you want to
blufrawg10: i heard the truth...
blufrawg10: i went to church for a few
months with my friend....
blufrawg10: and at first i wasl ike umm
ok this is lame
blufrawg10: like u ... i didnt believe
blufrawg10: then ...
blufrawg10: the more i heard... and
thouht about it .. and began studying
about it ...
blufrawg10: i finally trusted christ as my
DKLDarkRaven: but, what was so special
about it, that moved you into beleiving
somethin you only read, and cannot see? i
mean, i could faith in aliens being real
blufrawg10: i can feel..
blufrawg10: i can see a change..
blufrawg10: it is different
DKLDarkRaven: couldn't it just be that
you convinced yourself in your mind htat
it's real, and deny all fact that it isn't?
DKLDarkRaven: ignorance is bliss they say
blufrawg10: i dont let what other people
say affect me. ..
DKLDarkRaven: yet, you let the religion
thing affect you
blufrawg10: some scientist is not gona
define my emotions and tell me what to
think or belive
blufrawg10: no... God affects me
DKLDarkRaven: but all things god say, are
translated through humans for us to hear
blufrawg10: through men of God
blufrawg10: and that is why... i read the
old king James version
DKLDarkRaven: the thou one?
blufrawg10: the first interpretation of the
DKLDarkRaven: of god is so nice, then
why does he curse us for what our
forefathers did eons ago?
blufrawg10: God gave us free will.....
blufrawg10: we sinned
blufrawg10: not God
blufrawg10: if he wanted us to be puppets
then he would have made it that way
blufrawg10: u can blame satan for sin
blufrawg10: and for all of us not bein in
heaven now ...
DKLDarkRaven: why not just kill satan
then? god is strong right?
blufrawg10: he will destroy satan....
blufrawg10: he will be cast into the lake
blufrawg10: and the unsaved will be cast
DKLDarkRaven: so, he lets satan make us
suffer while he sets up their and waits?
blufrawg10: he gives u the chance
blufrawg10: u have already been givin the
blufrawg10: so its not Gods fault u
continue to reject him
DKLDarkRaven: well, if he would do
somethin to prove to me he is
there.....then i might
blufrawg10: no u see...
blufrawg10: thats not faith
DKLDarkRaven: but, didn't the people of
old time stray after each miracle until he
did another to prove he was there?
blufrawg10: give me an incident ... God
used those miracles.. to manifest his
DKLDarkRaven: he turned water into wine
DKLDarkRaven: the people followed
DKLDarkRaven: he turned somethin into
blufrawg10: the people... were not
neccasarily unsaved then...
blufrawg10: that just was a way 4 christ
to show them he could do anything...
and to give them some more faith
DKLDarkRaven: so, i am damned because
they messed up and i cannot see god now?
blufrawg10: you will be damned because
u dont accept christ and thas about it
DKLDarkRaven: you cursed.....
blufrawg10: actually no
DKLDarkRaven: you said damned
blufrawg10: that means cursed
blufrawg10 signed on at 4:40:28 PM.
DKLDarkRaven: well, it is time for supper,
i will continue this some other time,
while you sit at home and be bored, i will
be out partying
blufrawg10 signed off at 4:40:56 PM.