MONTGOMERY COUNTY

 

 

            Many of my Nellis family members lived in the Town of Palatine, namesake of the early German settlers

            from  the Palatinate. Palatine was formed in 1788 from a large part of the Palatine District of old was

            formed in 1788 from a large part of the Palatine District of old Montgomery County. The area was called

            Tryon County at one time. In 1790 Tryon County was the largest county in New York State.

          Information about Tryon County is found in a link listed below.

   

          http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytryon/tryon.html

The following is from: http://montgomery.nygenweb.net/palatine/stonearhistory.html

It is Paper read By Andrew L. Dillenbeck before the New York State Historical Association at

Canajoharie on the historical tour of September 24, 1931.

The Mohawk Valley

The Stone Arabia, itself, variously spelled and pronounced, has long been a matter of curiosity, conjecture and myth - and may always remain so. In the Old Testament and later times, Arabia carried the idea of blessedness, happiness and security. This connotation has passed down the centuries in many lands and languages. The name Stone Arabia, in its Dutch spelling, is found in Dutch writings long before its use in America.

Thus it may be that Steen Rabi was the land of promise to various groups settling in America in the 17th and 18th centuries. At least we find the name applied to a region on the west side of the Hudson near Kingston, to the site of the present North Troy, and later to our Stone Arabia in the Mohawk Valley.

One story of the derivation of the name still current locally is the name "Steen Raby "came to be the name of the section when certain travelers passing through the territory saw a Dutch girl aiding in clearing the land from stone, and seeking to have sport with her, said, "What are you doing my pretty maid?" and received the reply, "Steen Raby, you fools," which being translated was "Picking stones." The words do not fit themselves very well into the Dutch dialect, and the story can hardly be harmonized with considerations already mentioned. Moreover, Stone Arabia is not particularly stony in the part first settled. The fact that the name is in use elsewhere 50 years before the Stone Arabia Patent is granted renders the old story highly improbable.

But perhaps we have a clue that comes from the Hudson Valley. Under patent dated 19 October 1668, Robert Sanders and Harmen Vedder bought of the Mahican Indians land called by the Indians "Taescameasich" lying on the east side of the North River and stretching along the River from the second to the third spring which runs over to the west side of the river straight into the woods up to the high hills. On 21 August 1670 Harmen Vedder conveyed his interest to Robert Sanders. Reference to this land is made in a lease given by Robert Sanders to Hendrick Meussen Vrooman, 3 May 1670, wherein it is described as "lying over against the long island" and named Steen Raby. In 1680 Robert Sanders sold his farm on the east side of the Hudson's river, obliquely over against the farm of Anthony van Shayk, commonly called Steen Arabia. Captain John Schuyler in his report of his journey to Canada in 1698, says, "we went from Albany and came to Stony Arabia 8 miles up the river, where we lodged that night". All these references are to Stony Arabia on the site of modern Lansingburg or North Troy. This is also the Stein Raby at which an outpost of 10 men was stationed as early as 1710.

It is possible that the name was transferred to the Mohawk Valley location through Robert Sanders, an Albany merchant who was interested in the Lansingburg Stone Arabia and acted as Indian interpreter for the governor, and who may have assisted the Stone Arabia patentees in their purchase from the Indians.

The name is still applied to the central and southeastern portion of the original patent. For a few years just before the Revolution, Stone Arabia was given as a name to that section later to be called the Palatine District extending from the Nose to the Falls and northward to Canada, but on March 8, 1773, it lost this wider application and from that time was confined to the patent.

It is probable that a number of families from the Hudson Valley Palatine Camps never settled in Schoharie at all but went directly to Stone Arabia in 1712-15. Some families drop out of the Kocherthal-Berkenmeyer Records of the Camp and Schoharie for about nine years appearing later in Stone Arabia. Research made in Switzerland recently by one of the Palatine families reveals relationship by marriage with the Frey family several generations before 1710. If Hendrick Frey was in this immediate section before 1712-13 it is fair to assume that the relationship established in Europe before coming to America would still hold and he probably was the cause of several families coming directly to Stone Arabia from the Hudson. Indeed Simms says some of the party had relatives or friends there [Stone Arabia] who located at the time the Schoharie settlements were begun, which induced them to remove thither. Frothingham says they were on the ground before 1723.

The original patentees were, with one or two exceptions, of German ancestry coming from the Rhine Valley in Switzerland and Germany. My Nellis family is from Sitters in the parish of Obermoschel near Meisenheim in the Pfalz. Much more history may be found on the referenced website. My Klock and Smith families were intermarried with the Nellis family.

If you are interested in WHO WERE THE PALATINES go to this website:

http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/palatines/palatine-history.shtml

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            Other Links  

Political Graveyard of Montgomery County http://politicalgraveyard.com/geo/NY/MN.html

Montgomery County GenWeb  http://montgomery.nygenweb.net/

Nellis Website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nelliswebsite/

 

     Fort Klock and Indian Castle Church http://www.threerivershms.com/

    Tryon County History http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytryon/intro1.html

 St. Johnsville Reformed Church Baptism and Marriage Records http://stjchurch.com/TOC.htm

             1840 Census Records for Revolutionary War Pensioners http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/colonial/census/1840/  

             1790 New York Census http://www.familyhistory.com/censusyear.asp?y=1790

 

             Finding US Naturalization Records http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/naturalizationrecords.html

      Montgomery County Vital Records http://www.vitalrec.com/nycounties2.html#Montgomery  

             Reformed Dutch Church in America http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12710a.htm  

             Palatine Settlements in New York http://www.fortklock.com/Psettlements.htm  

             Early Mohawk Valley Wills http://www.herkimer.nygenweb.net/wills5.html

 

             Montgomery County Department of History & Archives http://www.co.montgomery.ny.us/historian/

 

            Other Montgomery County Links http://www.northern-nys.com/montgomery_county.htm  

 

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            Albany and New Amsterdam County

            Columbia County

            Dutchess County

            Fulton County

            Greene County

            Rensselaer County

            Saratoga County

          Schenectady County

            Schoharie County

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