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p>This is the first message I have posted to help "Others Helping Others." I am in hopes there will be more info
Any questions about themation shared , stories, folklore s, family history.
If you have hit a brick wall, share a paragraph or two and see if others can help.
Dave is a new friend of mine. I received an email from him to look at the picture of my gr granpapa Joseph Ryan Waldrop. The picture was on my Photo Page. The picture was taken no less that 1870. It was not in the best of condition, it had black marks on the photo and the table by him was blank where some was there. Dave cleaned the photo up and added a book on the table. Now you can look at my gr grandpapa and look at him and not all the dark spots around him. I think Dave did a beautiful job.
I wanted to share my new friend with you to see if you might have old pictures you might want him to look at. I can assure you, ** the price will not be more than you can't afford.** I will let you chat with Dave, I think you will be please with the charges
Here is a snip of the email Dave sent me.
Thank you for the compliment. I've been able to do a nice job on my grandfather's picture (he died when my dad was about 4) and my wife's father's picture (it was a Canadian Army picture of him and his whole company). The picture was relatively large (about 11" X 18") and was dated 1941 and had quite a bit of damage. It turned out well also. I've done a few others, some come out better than others. It depends on the quality of the photo to be restored and where the damage is. Dave
email address is: davey@maine.rr.com
This is what I mean *Others Helping Others* <
YOU WOULDN'T BEIEVE HOW MANY TIMES PEOPLE HAVE QUESTION ME ABOUT MY HANDLE * SCALAWAG *. THEN HAROLD COMES AND GIVE ME A GOOD REASON TO TELL EVERYONE. HERE IS HAROLD'S EMAIL , THEN BENEATH HIS YOU WILL FIND MY ANSWER TO HAROLD, WHY I AM SCALAWAG AND MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS SCALAWAG1867.
Hello Sandra
I have tried to discern the info you posted on your site about your ggf. I am only more baffled by your use of the term scalawag. Let me try to explain from my perspective. I do have much Mississippi kin and we seem to have some common lines together.
Scalawag is the term for a Southern traitor. I just do not understand how a Southerner can wear it as a badge of honour. Let me qualify myself with a bit of history. During the War in Eastern central Mississippi union General Sherman burned homes, churches and businesses. He stole all livestock, food, crops and anything of value. He raped women both slave and free. He poisoned the crop lands and poisoned the wells. Side bar: (One of our Doolittle ancestors, Elizabeth Doolittle in Newton, Mississippi made her home into a hospital where she cared for wounded Confederate soldiers. As the died with no place to be buried she had 100 of them buried in the Doolittle family cemetery in Newton, Newton County, Mississippi. )
Now it is 1865 the war should be over but reconstruction was instituted. Soldiers coming home from war had no guns, no food, torn families, no money, no clothes only to find what homes and lands were left was confiscated by carpetbaggers and scalawags. Southerners were not allowed to vote or run for office. Ex-slaves were appointed to elected government offices and law enforcement positions. They were given guns and ordered to shoot anyone still in a Confederate uniform and to shoot any Southern white person seen out after 10 o'clock at night. Thus the kkk was born. The kkk was the only way Southern white males could stay alive and provide for their families. They went after carpet baggers. They went after scalawags. They went after those exslaves who side with the traitors and northerners. In some places the fighting was so bad is was as if the War had not ended. Sidebar:(Kemper County Mississippi was so bad the called it bloody Kemper). Another thing these past Confederates did was to seize control of the Democrat party and chase out the socialistic Republicans. The tactics these past Confederates used to have the Democrat party as the only party were revolting. These tactics were so ingrained in the Democrat party they still exist today despite the party platform change to communism. As for being divorce four times If you lived in hell for years it would be difficult for you to have a lasting meaningful relationship. What is wrong with dueling? It not like he was going to get satisfaction through a corrupt judge. The carpetbagger/scalawag judge got what he deserved. Your ggf Joseph Ryan Waldrop was an honourable man you should treat him as such.
Harold
Unreconstructed in Georgia
HERE IS MY ANSWER TO HAROLD .
Hi Harold,
As hard as it may sound, I use my handle with loving affection, not the meaning of it but the loving meaning behind it,
My ancestors were all Southern being from Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi.
In my grandparents and great grandparent's days, the worst thing you could call anyone was a *Scalawag*.
Here how the storie goes.
Every year since I was a small child until I was twenty, my parents would take me to Alabama and Mississippi to vist on a two week vacation wiht my dad's relatives. Each trip the first two weeks in June we would first swing over to Pensacola, Flordia to visit my gr aunt Fannie Masters, Barrett Sweeting.
Aunt Fannie must have been in her late seventies or early eighties. She was hard of hearing and she didn't want to miss anything my parents were talking about. My parents would always take a girl friend of mine along, my sisters were older than I and were married when I was about twelve years old. Mama and daddy would take one of my friends to keep me from talking and asking so many questions, like " Are we there yet?" and "When are we going to stop and eat?"
Back to story. We used to sit on the front porch and while Aunt Fannie was doing all she could to hear, we were sitting on the steps, giggling and talking, not thinking we were bothering Aunt Fannie. When we had gotten on her nerves, she would yell down at us, "Hush up, you little Scalawags" I don't think she meant it in a nice way. Then it was, everything we did , Aunt Fannie would call us those little Scalawags. It got to the point when she talked to my parents on the telephone she would how is that Little Scalawag. I still don't think she meant it with affection. Hence, I became the little"Scalawag".
When I first started researching my State Rep. Joseph Ryan Waldrop , I was so proud and dont't get me wrong, I love , adore and proud of him. But, when I found out he was a State Rep. of Washington County, Alabama, Minister , Physician and Justice of the Peace. He also owned a retail store . It was in front of his store that he was ambushed and killed. I just knew then we came from Class and Breeding. Then the stories go on he was married to Nancy Heard, Sarah Catherine Alexander, Victoria K. Thomas and Sarah A. Baxter , who was my gr grandmother, they married in 1867 in Washington County, Alabama. Two of his wives he wasn't divorced from. He had at least two children by all wives except Sarah Cathrien Alexander from Arkansas.
But he wasn't a bad man, he was in trouble when he was very young and had to keep moving. It was when Victoria divorced him when she found out he was still married to Sara Catherine Alexander.
I have his life story under Who shot J. R. (Our J. R.) I have letters from him and letters to him, some were copied from the Montgomery Archives in Montgomery, Alabama. He was welled loved and respected in Washington County. He was six foot and six inches. He was loved by the women and the men wanted to be just like him. Stories goes you either loved him or hated him. The only way a man could get up the nerve to kill him was to ambushed him , and they did. After the Civil War he fought for Washington County to clean out the Carpetbaggers and the Scalawags, he fought against the colored taking over and robbing and stealing. He fought Judges or anyone who got in his way to help keep the his part of the South from being taken over.
JRW went down to his knees, but it took a coward to take him down killing him in a ambushed. I love my gr grandpapa very much thru researching ,I have grown to know and love him.
So when I call him a scalawag, I use it with affection, My handle has special meaning for me. I still have tons of information to share about my gr grandpapa. He was was quite a fighter for what he believe, evern to the point while wearing his KKK sheet he beat up the Judge of Probate of Washington County, Alabama.
I loved your letter, would you mind if I use it on my Web page. Your remarks were very gracious towards my gr grandpapa. I would love to share the message you sent me today. Thanks Harold.
Sandra
maiden name Waldrop
Georgia
I'V BEEN ASKED MANY TIME WHERE THE NAME GREEN BERRY OF GREEN BERRY WALDROP CAME FROM. WELL HERE'S HOW THE STORY GOES.
This is what I've been told. You know how so many people named their children after George Washington and Robert E. Lee? I've been told during the Revolutionary War, there were two Generals one Gen. Green and Gen. Berry , After the War parents named their children Green Berry in honor of the Generals.
Before another list member contacted me and told me the story, I had joined the Green family list and also the Berry family list for several months and found nothing.
AS MY MAMA USED TO SAY, " ANOTHER COUNTY HEARD FROM" IN OUR *OTHERS HELPING OTHERS* BARB FROM THE DEARMAN LIST SENT THIS TO HELP OTHERS. THAT'A GIRL BARB.
Sandra, I was noticing in your post the part about someone helping you with the old photos. I have many different programs for editing photos. The one I use most is very user friendly and has a free trial version. In addition to that, Rick, the developer is very helpful. He will contact you by email with any problems you have and has been known to call people directly by telephone to assist them. Here is the link:
change the html code to read:
Barb
The surname Waldrop, Wardrop, Wardrope, etc. is occupational in origin, that is, it derives from the trade or profession of the first bearer. The name is from Old Norman French "garder or warder" meaning "to watch" and robe. Therefore the surname derives from the keeper of the royal wardrobe. The man in charge of the clothes of the household was a post of great responsibility. The wardrobe was a repository not only for articles of dress [often trimmed with precious stones], but for furniture not in use, and for spices and confections. The Book of Curtasye says: "The usshere shall bydde the wardropere Make redy for alle, night before they fere."
1210 Robertus de WARDEROB, the earliest occurance of the surname, witnesses a charter by Margaret, countess of Buchan in favor of the Abbey of Arbroath [RAA., I, p. 94]. Arms pictured on cover. Earliest found.
1270 John de WARDROBA - laid claim to certain lands in Kilpatrick, Dumbartonshire [RMP. p. 180].
1278 Randinus de WARDEROBA - witnessed as quitclaim of Beeth Waldef in Fife, [RD., p. 52].
1286 Thomas de GARDEROBA - listed in the Court Rolls of the manor of Wakefield in Yorkshire.
1296 Alisaundre de la GARDEROBE of Edinberghshire and David de la GARDEROBE of Fife rendered homage [Bain, II, p. 204, 213].
1317 John de GARDROPA was appointed proluctor in Aberdeen [SCM., v, p. 8]
1324 Thomas WARDEROPE is listed in the Calender of Letter Books for the London.
1351 Adam de GARDROPA confirmed the transfer of land to John Crab in Aberdeen [Friars, 16].
1450 Thomas VARDROP de Gothynys acquired a fourth part of Thenstoun.
1465 The same man as above, but as Thomas WARDROPARE de Gothnys, chartered the confirmation of the lands of Thanystoune in the thanage of Kintore [View, p. 574].
1491 Both Alexander WARDROPER and James WARDROPER withenssed a charter of lands in Scone [Scon, p. 199].
1525 Archibald VEDDEROP was bailie of Glasgow [REG., 497].
1527 Thomas WEDDEROP and James WEDDEROP were jurors on assize of lands in Gowane (Govan) [Pollock, I, p. 258].
1531 Thomas WARDROPER of Ballatheis granted a charter in favor of John Montcreiff [Methven, p. 43].
1547 John WODROP held a land in Glasgow [Protocols, I].
1606 Gilbert WEDROP was charged with tumult in Glasgow [RPC, VII, p. 244].
1608 William WADDROPE was admitted burgess of Glasgow [Burgesses].
1671 Barbrye WADROPE is recorded in Swyntounhill [Lauder].
Other Variations occur as: WAIRDROB 1658, WAIRDROPE 1678, WARDDROP 1509, WARDRAPER 1512, WARDRAPPER 1686, WARDROB 1642, WARDROPAR 1467, WARDROPPER 1509, WARDRUPPER 1582, WODDEROP ca. 1530, WODDROP 1591, WOODROPE (in Abrdeen) 1731, James WARDROP, [surgeon who wrote the "Essays on the Morbid Anatomy of the Human Eye"] born 1782. Genealogical records in America show WALDROOP, WALDREP, WALDRIP, WALTRIP, WALDRUP, WARDROP, WARDROBE, WARDROPE, WADDROP and WALDROP which is the most common spelling of the surname in America.
