UK 4 4.5 5 5.5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 EUROPE 37 37.5 38 39 39.5 40 40.5 41 42 42.5 43 44 44.5 45 45.5 46 47 U.S.A. 5.5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 12.5 13 13.5

Shoe sizes: A woman's shoe size is usually one number higher than
the equivalent in a man's shoe. If you wear a 9 man's shoe, try a
10 woman's shoe. A B-width shoe is considered medium for women, a
D-width for man. If a shoe is not available in the correct women's
width, try a size 1/2 to 1 size larger (i.e. a 10 C-D size, try an
11B).

Once a C/D has discovered his joy lies in wearing women's
clothing, and he decides to engage in this exciting pastime,
one of the first problems that he will encounter is finding his
proper women's clothing size.

Unfortunately, not all crossdressers have a wife or girlfriend
who is the same size or even close enough so that one could guess
the right size. So finding clothes that fit may present a rather
serious problem. Buying different sizes of clothing until one
finds the correct size can be not only frustrating, but downright
expensive.

The following size conversion chart at least gives you a place to
start.

What's your opposite sex size?
(A conversion chart for well-dressed female ego)

Clothing sizes

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Miss or      Bust/chest       Waist          Hips          Men's
Woman's      (inches)        (inches)**     (inches)       size
size*
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4          30/30-1/2       21/21-1/2      32/32-1/2       ***
6          31/31-1/2       22/22-1/2      33/33-1/2       ***
8          32/32-1/2       23/23-1/2      34/34-1/2       ***
10         33/34           24/25          35/36           ***
12         34-1/2/35-1/2   25-1/2/26-1/2  36-1/2/37-1/2   36(S)
14         36/37           27/28          38/39
16         37-1/2/38-1/2   28-1/2/29-1/2  39-1/2/40-1/2   38(M)
18         39/40-1/2       30/31 1/2      41/42-1/2       40(M)
20(38)     41/42-1/2       32/33 1/2      43/44-1/2       42(L)
22(40)     43/44-1/2       34/35 1/2      45/46-1/2       44(L)
(42)     45/46-1/2       37-1/2/39-1/2  46/47-1/2       46(XL)
(44)     47/48-1/2       40/42          48/49-1/2       48
(46)     49/50-1/2       42-1/2/44-1/2  50/51-1/2       50
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* Woman's sizes are shown in parenthesis.

** Waist measurements shown here are misses sizes; men's
sizes are approximately 3 inches larger.

*** Not available in men's sizes.
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Misses tall sizes begin at about 5 feet 7 inches, men's tall
sizes at about 5 feet 11 inches.

Women's clothing sizes can vary widely, depending on the source.
A size 8 dress from a designer in NYC can be a size 14 in a ready
to wear dress. Several NY fashion designer's use a "perfect" size 8
model who is a man. Sear's is the only known company that uses a
recommended national size standard. If you can, compare the
measurements of any size tables to get a feel for how close they
come to size's you have that fit you well. Consider finding
someone to alter clothing to your specific requirements or custom
make an item for a special occasion.

Lingerie sizes: To find your bra size, measure your chest up
under the arms. For cup size a women measures the fullest part of
the bust. If it's 1 inch more than the bra size, an A cup; 2
inches, a B cup; 3 inches, a C cup and 4 inches, a D cup. Many
men have fairly large pectorals (especially if they are slightly
overweight). You can pick your cup size to match your breast
forms or by how much padding you want to put in your bra cups.
Almost anything can be used from water filled balloon's to
birdseed and sponge rubber. Mastectomy prosthesis (silicone
rubber), or molded sponge rubber pads are recommended. The type
with hollow back's mold over the male pectorals and give the best
fit. It is also best to buy the next size smaller, because the
forms will fit better in your bra. An underwire bra will not
ride up as much as a regular bra (attaching the forms with ostomy
adhesive will help anchor a bra). A hairless chest will look and
feel better than one with hair, especially if an adhesive is
used.

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Panty size is determined by hip size.
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Hips        Panty      Hips        Panty     Hips        Panty
(inches)     size      (inches)     size     (inches)     size

32-34        5         38-40        7        42-44        9

35-37        6         41-42        8        45-46        10
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Slip sizes correspond to bust measurements. Petticoat or half-
slip sizes are based on waist measurements: S (22-24), M (25-27),
L (28-30), etc. Nightgown and robe sizes are based on bust
measurements: S (32), M (34-36), L (38-40), etc.

There you have it! Next time your walk into a store or boutique,
you'll know just what size your "wife" or "girlfriend" wears, or
if you have the courage, tell the salesperson it's for yourself!
Many customer's to Large or Tall girl stores are men who buy for
themselves. Some will even allow you to try items on for fit (a
phone call to the store before you go is advised). Most mail
order companies (Sear's, Penny's, Lerner's NY, Anthony Richard's
etc.), estimate about 30% of their customer's are men.  At least
you won't run the risk of getting ripped off by a clerk or
company who will sell you anything just to get rid of you. Most
store's and mail order companies want to have a satisfied
customer, who will buy from them again. Another possibility is
making your own clothing or finding a seamstress to make
garments from patterns and cloth you purchase. You can get things
made that are not normally available in stores (although they
will cost more). You can have them made for your "wife" or you
can tell the truth. Most people either don't care or will accept
a plausible story.

Unless you are into something kinky like "rubber" or leather and
bondage, buy your clothing where a GG (Genetic Girl) would buy
her clothes. They will make you feel natural and give you a
feeling of wearing what a "real" women would wear. A woman will
be much more willing to buy you clothing if she goes to stores
she normally shops at, rather than porno stores or mail order
from NYC with it's inflated prices. Get a Post Office or mail
station box and send for Fredrick's catalog, this will get you on
the lists for most of the catalog's (order a pushup bra or 5"
heel's and you are a valued customer!).