"The Rosie O'Donnell
Show", Thursday, May 9th, 2002:
Rosie O'Donnell: Our next guest is coming to the end of a
nine-year run on the hit show, The X-Files. Take a look,
as she tried to poison me once with a tofu pie, from an earlier
appearance on this program: {Andrea's Note: a clip is shown of an
interview Rosie did with Gillian on June 15th, 1998}
Gillian Anderson: It's wheat-free...
RO: Yeah.
GA: ...and it's dairy-free...
RO: Oh, yeah. (not convinced)
GA: ...and it's sugar-free.
RO: Great! (audience laughs)
GA: (giggles) And I wanna see you take a bite!
RO: It sounds delicious! (she takes a bite, scrunching up
her face)
GA: It's honey-flavored. Is it any good? (audience laughs)
RO: Now you know what's scary? The first taste--it's sort of
entertaining, and then it becomes like that paste you used to
have in 3rd grade! (clip ends) Please welcome back to the
show--Gillian Anderson! (Gillian comes out dressed in a chocolate
brown sweater, black pants, and black high heels; audience
applauds) ...take the kids and go away! We're both--I was gonna
say, your show's winding down--want a footstool?
GA: Oh, yes--please! (footstool comes from under her chair)
RO: Yes! There you go! Ask and you shall receive!
GA: Oh, that's nice.
RO: It's so much better, isn't it?
GA: You must have a lot of guests with long legs on here?
RO: Well, you know, once I sat there in year two, and I couldn't
believe my feet didn't touch. I thought all the people had been
suffering, for a year, without even saying anything.
GA: That's true, that's uhhh...
RO & GA: Hi!
RO: You're almost done!
GA: Yeah, I'm done!
RO: You're totally done!
GA: I'm done done!
RO: But you're not done airing.
GA: No, not airing.
RO: The finale, yeah.
GA: Done shooting.
RO: How was the last day--was it very emotional?
GA: Ummm, we were in the desert, in Borrego Springs, and it was
uhhh, there were people who were emotional but it was like--you
know, it was a hundred and some degrees, and there was wind, and
there was heat...
RO: Right.
GA: ...and we were trying to get it up, to cry, and you know, the
sand would just get in our eyes... (giggles)
RO: Right.
GA: ...you know, it was mixed. It was ummm, you know, it's sad.
RO: It's sad?
GA: It really is--it's just sad.
RO: But also, nine years--that's a LONG run.
GA: It's a long time.
RO: Yeah.
GA: Yeah, that's almost a third of my life.
RO: Right.
GA: Isn't that weird?
RO: When you think of it that way.
GA: I was 24...
RO: When you started.
GA: ...when I started. And I'm almost 34.
RO: How about that?
GA: How 'bout that?
RO: I remember, I was up in uhhh, Vancouver I believe it was...
GA: Mmm-hmmm.
RO: ...when you were shooting the pilot...
GA: Yes!
RO: ...of that. I was doing a movie.
GA: And you snuck me some cigarettes or something, didn't you?
RO: Yes, I did. (Gillian laughs)
GA: Sorry to bring that up.
RO: I didn't smoke 'em.
GA: No no no--she didn't smoke them.
RO: Did you know I've never tried a cigarette?
GA: Ever?
RO: I'm 40 years old, in my whole life.
GA: That's amazing.
RO: Well, it always grossed me out.
GA: As, as it should.
RO: Yeah, it should. You don't smoke anymore?
GA: No.
RO: Good. Swear?
GA: No! (giggles)
RO: You liar! (audience laughs) I can tell you are lying!
GA: Well, I didn't--I don't lie.
RO: No, no but a little bit--you smoke. A little bit.
GA: So when you asked me, honestly--yeah, you know...
RO: But you shouldn't.
GA: ...just--no, I shouldn't, and I did stop for two
years...
RO: Yeah.
GA: ...but, you know, transitions are hard.
RO: Yeah.
GA: And that's a big transition right now.
RO: Yes, listen--let me give you some advice.
GA: So, every once in a while, I'm just--yeah.
RO: If the transition's hard--cupcakes! (audience laughs)
GA: I have tried that--it doesn't work for me.
RO: It doesn't work for you?
GA: No no no--it doesn't work for me.
RO: I understand. How's the baby girl? Not a baby anymore.
GA: She's--no, she's not a baby--she's uhhh, 7 1/2.
RO: 7--7 1/2!
GA: 7 1/2!
RO: Wow!
GA: I know. She's awesome.
RO: Loving school?
GA: Ummm, not especially. (laughs)
RO: No, no.
GA: No, but I don't remember loving school at that time.
RO: Right.
GA: No, loving school, but just really--you know, she loves
explaining things. She loves trying to figure things out. Her,
her father's kind of ummm, an inventor, in a way.
RO: Right.
GA: Ummm, and uhhh, and she loves to figure-if, if there's a
problem, she'll figure it out for you, you know.
RO: Right.
GA: What's so funny, I forgot--the other day, we were ummm, we
were in Los Angeles, and she had been over at a friend's house,
to--at a party, and I was just trying to make conversation with
her about how the party was.
RO: Right.
GA: Sometimes she'll share information with me, and sometimes
she's just mute, and she says, 'I'm tired. I don't wanna talk.'
But she ummm, you know, 'What was it like? What was the house
like?' She goes, 'Uhhh, Spanish-Italian!' (audience & Rosie
laugh) And I thought, 'What?' What does Spanish-Italian mean to
her? I, you know, and I said, 'Piper, what, you know, sweetie,
what do you mean, Spanish-Italian?' She says, 'You see that
balcony over there?' (points upwards toward the audience &
laughs) 'Cause we were driving down the street. She says, 'That's
kind of, that's more Italian than Spanish. That's not really...'
I, I don't know where she's getting this information from.
RO: She's looking on the Web under 'architectural.com' or
something! (audience laughs)
GA: I don't know whether she's making this up. I know! (laughs)
RO: She's like a genius.
GA: I don't know.
RO: That's so funny.
GA: It's really interesting.
RO: Do you get mad when she doesn't wanna talk? 'Cause I get mad
when my son doesn't wanna talk--he's around the same age.
GA: I don't know about mad, but I get--I get frustrated.
RO: Yeah!
GA: You know what I mean?
RO: Yeah. 'How was school?' And he goes, 'Mom, I don't feel like
talking!' (audience laughs)
GA: I know. What is--what is that?
RO: I, I never remember saying that to my parents.
GA: I don't remember saying that either.
RO: Yeah, I'm like, (big booming voice) 'You'd better talk or
I'll give you something to cry about!' (Gillian & audience
laugh) 'Rahrahrah!' He laughs when I threaten him with physical
violence.
GA: Does he?
RO: Because, you know--I don't do it. You know, 'I am SO gonna
give you a spanking!' And he goes, 'Oh, no you're NOT!' (audience
laughs) So, you know, he knows.
GA: Does he roll his eyes at you?
RO: Yeah.
GA: When, when you think you're being like, like, cool...
RO: Yes.
GA: ...or when you think you're being--and she's just like, '
Mom!'
RO: Funny. When I'm being funny with his friends around, you
know...
GA: Yeah.
RO: ...like, 'Hey kids--don't smoke any crack!' You know (Gillian
laughs) like I make jokes, right? He goes, 'Oh--really
funny--dur!' You know (she & audience laugh)--like he's so
over me.
GA: Wow. Yeah.
RO: Yeah.
GA: Yeah, she's over me, too.
RO: Yeah, I think its that age--seven to eight.
GA: Yeah? (giggles) That's so good to hear!
RO: (agreeing) Yeah, I know! We're old--our kids are rolling
their eyes at us...
GA: ...I know!
RO: ...and we're unemployed! Gillian! (audience laughs) And you
know we're gonna have to go on vacation or go into rehab--do
something! You know what I mean?
GA: Something? ...shake it up a little bit.
RO: Exactly. Now David appears on the last episode, yes?
GA: Yeah, he does.
RO: Which is nice.
GA: It's really nice.
RO: He comes back to do what--to say...?
GA: Well, I think there's a clip--but, but he comes back to ummm,
to well, he's found.
RO: Yeah, thank goodness.
{Andrea's Note: This part of the transcript might be considered
*SPOILER* material, so if you don't want to know what's going to
happen in the last episode, please skip over this section!!!}
GA: You know, he is found, and ummm, when uhhh, when he's found,
he's found in a prison. And I think the clip that you guys have
is me, trying to convince him to testify.
RO: Okay.
GA: To, to get on the stand and to...
RO: Talk about the bad people who did bad things to him for many
years.
GA: ...testify. Exactly. But he doesn't want to.
RO: He doesn't want to.
GA: He doesn't wanna save himself.
RO: Okay, take a look at this, from the season finale of The
X-Files. {Andrea's Note: Scene from THE TRUTH begins to play.
I'll say it again, if you don't want to be *SPOILED*, please stop
reading now! The scene will be posted in bold.}
MULDER is in his cell, wearing an orange jumpsuit; SCULLY is
standing beside him in the cell, dressed in her regular business
attire...
SCULLY: Make them a deal, Mulder. Guilty on a lesser
charge--maybe they'll go for it and they'll let you walk out of
here.
MULDER: I'd rather die, Scully.
SCULLY: How can you say that? How can you say that,
Mulder--to *me*!
MULDER: Because this is greater than you or me. This is
about everything we've worked for--for nine years. The truth,
that we both sacrificed so much to uncover and to expose.
SCULLY: Well then, expose it, Mulder! Take the
stand--whatever it is that you're withholding--take the stand,
and hit them full force!
(scene ends & audience applauds)
RO: (softly) Yeah! Sorry! (giggles)
GA: ...{can't make out over all the applause--Andrea}
RO: Yeah, we were talking about real things!
GA: (looking at a gold microphone on Rosie's desk) ...does this
mic work?
RO: It does work.
GA: This is a working thing.
RO: It's in case our mics go out...
GA: Oh, okay.
RO: ...and they've never really gone out.
GA: Okay.
RO: But it's pure gold, apparently.
GA: Really?
RO: Yeah, like in year two, right? The people who made the
microphones sent me a 24-karat gold mic. Can you believe that?
GA: No. (giggles)
RO: Do you want it?
GA: Yes, thank you.
RO: You can take--you're unemployed now--you might need that!
(audience laughs)
GA: Oh.
RO: Yeah, take it. Melt it, make it--no, tell me what you have
over there--what is that? (Gillian holds up a shirt)
GA: This is a shirt that I, ummm wore, in the uhhh, in the final
two-parter.
RO: Right.
GA: And ummm, on the X-Files website, we are auctioning it
off...
RO: Excellent.
GA: ...and then the uhhh, the proceeds are going to your charity.
RO: Excellent! (audience applauds) And you're gonna sign it, I
take it?
GA: I'll sign it right here!
RO: Sign it right here--here's a pen. And put that up--here's the
information right there--that you can go for the X-Files,
and uhhh, we're gonna be telling you next week about some of the
stuff we're gonna have on the show--up for auction as well.
GA: But one thing--real quick, before we go--this is me signing
for uhhh, Rosie's auction. I've also--can I talk--can I plug my
auction?
RO: Sure. Yes.
GA: I have an auction of ummm, X-Files memorabilia on my
website, which is G-A-W-S.ao.net. And uhhh, all the proceeds will
go to ummm, neurofibromatosis, which is a charity that I do a lot
of work for.
RO: Excellent, and we'll put a link on our charity to that.
(audience applauds)
GA: That would be great!
RO: Yes, on our website as well.
GA: Thank you.
RO: Gillian Anderson!
GA: Thank you so much!
RO: Let's go have a drink or something--we're done! Back right
after this!
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