Ancestry of Ann Young (1761-1831)

When Ann Young married Henry Goldsack in November 1780 she brought with her a Goldsack lineage that rivaled her new husband’s. I’ll start from the beginning and work down to Ann:

The line begins here:

The Colsonsacke name appears in several marriages records, notations in the register and Will entries. They are no doubt somehow connected, but, to date no definite link can be made to the Dover Goldsack Family.

Robert Colsonsacke and Elizabeth Longley were married 9 Feb1589 at Bekesbourne (near Canterbury, Kent).

Robert Colsonsacke and Agnes Kitchyn were married on 22 Nov 1616 at St. Clements, Sandwich.

There was a Richard Colsonsacke noted in the register and Peter Colsonsacke is mentioned in 1583.

The Kent Quarter Sessions Records show that "Robert Colsonsacke, junior, of Worth, husbandman, in £20, to appear and to keep the peace towards Agnes, wife of Thomas Brice of the same; surety, William Maye of the same, yeoman -- ref. QM/SRc/1671/26 -- date: 27 March 1617"

Ann Colsonsacke married in 1625.

Sybill Colsonsacke married in 1639

However, a will has been found for George Colsonsacke (1620-bur. 6 Feb 1669). In the will he names his wife, Ursula. The Exemption certificates for the Hearth Tax in 1674 for Dover make reference to the following members of a family:

“ Parish of St. Mary’s, St. Nicholas Ward, George Goldsack one hearth, Widow Colsensack two hearths.

Parish of St. James, Peter Colsonsacke two hearths.”

Two of the daughters were baptised in Dover, although Peter and George can not be definitively connected to George and Ursula it seems likely that that this is how the family was comprised:

*Petter (1643- Oct 1731)

George (1645-buried 29 Oct 1675) m. (24 Sept 1671, Dover, St. James) Sarah Marcham * Sarah remarried to Richard Row 7 July 1679 at Dover, St. James

(*) Ann Colsonsacke (bp. 7 July 1674, Dover, St. James)

Sarah (1648) Note: There was a Sarah Goldonsack who married Garret Magdngall (sp.?) on 16 July 1696

Ann (bp. 16 Feb 1651, Dover, St. James)

Ursula (bp. 14 Feb 1663, Dover, St. James)

The entry for the burial of “Widow Goldsack” at Dover, St. James on 8 Nov 1694 no doubt refers to Ursula, Widow of George.

*Petter Colsonsacke/Gouldsacke/ Goldsack (1643- 12 Oct 1720) married Jane Pepper (1647- bur.19 Oct 1701) at St. James, Dover on 6 June 1666. During his lifetime Peter used the name Colsonsacke, Gouldsacke and Goldsack, all names appear in the St. James registry. Peter and Jane were married for 35 years prior to her death. She was buried at St. James. Peter married for the second time to Hester (or Esther) Redwood at Dover on 25 Jan 1702. (There was a Hester Redwood who had a child, Elizabeth, at Dover in 1683). Peter was buried at Dover, St. James 12 Oct 1720.

These are the children of Peter and Jane (all baptised at Dover, St. James with name variations):

George Colsonsacke (10 Feb 1666)

William Goldsack (29 Nov 1668) m.(15 April 1689, Dover) Mary Mocket (1670)

(6) George (bp. 20 Apr 1690, Dover, St. James)

(6) Mary (1692)

(6) Elizabeth (1694)

Ursula Colsonsacke (Oct 14 1669)

Francis Colsonsacke (22 Nov 1672-5 Feb 1682)

Jane Goldensonsack (28 Feb 1675)

Ursley Goldsake (3 April 1676)

Petter Gouldsack (10 Sept 1678-buried 13 Sept)

(1) Petter Gouldsacke (6 Oct 1679-24 May 1724, Ringwould) m. (16 Jan 1700) Sarah Arthur

John Gouldsacke (24 May 1681-9 Feb 1712) m. (25 Jul 1703) Joanna Vile

Frances Goldsack (25 Nov 1683)

Elizabeth Goldsack (28 Dec1685- 29 Sept 1750, Deal) m. (22 Apr 1712, Deal, St. Leonard) John Clarke

(2) William Clarke (bp. 22 Jun 1712, Deal) m. (12 Jun 1737, Deal) Joanna Hayman

(2) Jane Clarke (bp. 22 Mar 1716, Deal)

(2) Garyrd Clarke (bp. 29 Sept 1718, Deal)

Edward Goldsack (born and died: 9 Sept 1688)

Mary Goldsack (bp.11 May 1690, Dover- 1723, Great Mongeham)

(1) Petter Goldsacke/ Gouldsacke (1679-1724) married Sarah Arthur (1675-1729).

Sarah was born in Nonington to John and Mary Arthur. John was buried 20 June 1690 at Nonington and Mary was buried there on 27 Oct 1715. They had seven children, all baptised at Nonington (the first four on 13 September 1666):

(2) Mary Arthur (c.1654)

(2) John Arthur (c. 1661)

(2) George Arthur (c. 1664)

(2) Robert Arthur (c. 1666)

(2) Elizabeth Arthur (bap.10 Sept 1672)

(2) Edward Arthur (bap. 10 Sept 1672) m. (3 April 1711, Dover) Jane Pepper

(3) Elizabeth Arthur (bp. 3 Jun 1711, Dover, St. Mary)

(3) Edward Arthur (bp. 23 Nov 1712, Dover, St. Mary) m. (28 Feb 1738, Elham) Jane Sladden

(3) John Arthur (bp. 1 Nov 1714, Dover, St. Mary) m.(13 May 1739, Cheriton) Mary Mummery

(3) Mary Arthur (bp. 5 Aug 1716, Dover – bur.4 Sept 1716, Dover)

(3) James Arthur (bp. 16 Mar 1817, Dover, St. Mary)

(3) Ann Arthur (bp. 2 Jan 1724, Dover, St. Mary) m. (31 Aug 1844, Dover) Joseph Knight

(4) Joseph Knight (bp. 11 Aug 1745, Dover) m. (6 Jun 1770, Tonbridge) Ann Langridge

(4) Jane Knight (bp. 14 Jan 1749, Dover) m. (31 Mar 1777, Buckland) John Albert

(4) William Knight (12 Jan 1752, Dover)

(4) Thomas Knight (bp. 16 Jun 1754, Dover)

(4) James Knight (bp. 12 Sept 1756, Dover) m. (25 Jan 1773, Tonbridge) Sarah Comber

(4) Edward Knight (bp. 17 Dec 1758, Dover) m. (c.1790) Elizabeth Bridges

(4) John Knight (bp. 18 Jan 1761, Dover) m. (16 Nov 1787, Dover) Elizabeth Henley

(4) Robert Knight (bp. 22 Jan 1764, Dover)

(2) Sarah Arthur (Bap. 28 June 1675)

According to the Bishop’s Transcripts Petter Gouldsacke married Sarah Arthur at Saltwood on 16 January 1700. The entry reads: “ Peter Goldset of Saltwood (Batchelor) married after Banns Sarah Arthur of Hythe at Saltwood”. The entry was found after seeing the following Quarterly Session records for 1699-1700:

FILE - Sessions Papers - ref. Q/SB/26 - date: 1699-1700

item: Order for William Honeyman, gaoler for the Eastern Division to bring into court at Epiphany Quarter Sessions for East Kent Peter Goldsack to give evidence in a settlement case - ref. Q/SB/26/98 - date: 14 January 1700/01
item: Incomplete document concerning the appeal of New Romney against a removal order of Sarah, the wife of Peter Goldsack, from Saltwood to New Romney - ref. Q/SB/26/109 - date: 14 January 1700/01

The Quarter Sessions for Kent show that on 16 July 1700 Peter Gouldsack was “charged with feloniously taking away a horse”. Charge brought Sir Richard Sandys (Justice of the Peace). The indictment dated 29 July 1700 says” one Petrus Goldsack of the parish of Cheriton in the county of Kent, labourer, on the 29^th May 12 William III that he stole by force of arms a brown gelding, belonging to John Lakar, worth 40 shillings, in the same parish”. The Sessions held at the Old Castle Canterbury on Tuesday 14 Jan 1701 show that “Walter Freeman and Peter Goldsack are attained of felony and are reprieved by this court after judgement til further order” The case was brought to court not by an individual but by order of the court itself. The men were already in custody. During the same session an appeal by the inhabitants of the parish of New Romney against sending Sarah, wife of Peter Goldsack, a poor woman, from the parish of Saltwood. The above Peter Goldsack was one of the HOME CIRCUIT prisoners reprieved to be transported to Barbados or Jamaica on July 11, 1702. He is listed as “Peter Goldsacke of Cheriton”. “These now pleaded her majesties most gracious pardon for the same under condition of transportation to some of her majesties foreign plantations in America within nine months next after the 11 day of July, there to remain for the space of seven years”. The pardon took effect and Peter and Sarah were reunited, the couple moved to Ringwould, however their first three children were baptised at Nonington (with a notation that the family was from Ringwould). The last two were baptised where they lived, at Ringwould. This could be related to to the fact that Sarah’s family lived in the area. Her brothers and widowed mother still lived there until Mary’s death in 1715. Here are Peter and Sarah’s children (first one baptised a year after Peter’s return):

(2) Peter (bap. 25 July 1703 - 1774)

(2) John (bap. 21 Oct 1705 – buried 10 July 1734) m.( 14 May 1733, Buckland) Sarah Redman (d.1734)

(2) George (bap. 17 Oct 1708) m.(2 Oct 1740, Kennington) Ann Austin. *George was a member of the Ashford Congregation of Baptists.

(2) Elizabeth (baptised 12 Sept 1712- buried at Ringwould on 6 Feb 1714) * Interesting to note that Petter Gouldsacke’s sister, Elizabeth, was married 22 April 1712. Was his daughter named in honour of his sister?

(2) Sarah (bap. 5 Feb 1715) m.(13 July 1738, Canterbury, St. Martin’s) Abraham Sturges. Both from Ash.

Petter died in 1724 and was buried at Ringwould on the 22^nd of May. Sarah shortly thereafter moved to Dover to be with her family. The Arthur family had been in Nonington until Mary’s death in 1715. After that they went to live and work in the Dover area. It is possible that Sarah went to live with her brother, Edward. Sarah was buried at Dover (St. James) 15 Feb 1729.

(2) Peter (1703-1774) was baptised 25 July 1703 at Nonington, Kent. He married Susannah (Susan) Sharp (1703-1771) at Westcliffe on 4 Sept 1733. Records show that he was the son of Peter and Sara from Ringwould.

Susannah was the granddaughter of Roger and Rachel Sharp. They had four children before Rachel died. Roger remarried to Elizabeth and they had two children. Roger was buried 19 Dec 1698 at Womenswold.

Children of Roger and Rachel (all baptised at Womenswold):

(2) John (21 Apr 1663)

(2) William (1 May 1668-1707)

(2) Francis (1673-1706)

(2) Margaret (18 Sept 1681)

Children of Roger and Elizabeth:

(2) Elizabeth (1 Apr 1683)

(2) John (31 Aug 1684-1707) m. (11 May 1704, Womanswold) Elizabeth Grant

(3) Francis Sharpe (bp. 2 July 1704, Womanswold)

William Sharp was born at Womenswold and married Elizabeth. These are their children (all baptised at Womenswold)

(3) Elizabeth (18 Mar 1694)

(3) William (20 Oct 1695)

(3) John (27 Sept 1698-1702)

(3) Thomas (5 Apr 1701-1701)

(3) Thomas (1702) Twin

(3) John (1702) Twin

(3) Susannah (3 Oct 1703)

(3) John (24 Apr 1706)

Peter and Susan settled in St. Margaret’s at Cliffe – there was a Thomas and Sarah Sharp living at St. Margaret’s at the same time. It is possible that Thomas was Susan’s brother. Peter’s brother John was also living at St. Margaret’s. Peter and Susan died at St. Margaret’s and both are buried there, Susan on 11 Feb 1771 and Peter on 28 Jan 1774.

** Note:

Peter’s brother John married Sarah Redman on 14 May 1733 at Buckland. Their son, Mark, was baptised at St. Margaret’s on 5 Aug 1733. In 1734 their son John was born. He was baptised at St. Margaret’s on 18 July. Five days later John was buried at St. Margaret’s. His father, John had been buried there on the 10^th of July and his mother, Sarah was buried on the 28^th of July. This left Mark in the care of others, possibly with his grandparents, Mark and Elizabeth Redman. Mark married Elizabeth Castle in 1758 and they had 9 children – all but one baptised at Guston. Their sixth child, Mark (1770-1847) married Sarah Standen in 1795. They had eleven children together, most born in the village of Whitfield (about 5km north of Dover). Mark and Sarah’s youngest sons, Redman (1813) and Stephen (1817), opted to immigrate to Australia in an effort to escape the tough economic times in England. One month after they were married Stephen and his wife, Jane Hannah McCloud, sailed out of Greenwich on 3 Dec 1837 on board the ship Trusty. They arrived at Holdfast Bay on 15 May 1838. Redman and his new wife, Elizabeth Paramor, sailed from Gravesend on the barque Sir Charles Forbes on 1 May 1842. They arrived at Nelson, New Zealand on 22 August 1842. After a little more than two years, which included the birth of their son George (28 April 1844) the family set sail for Australia on 14 July 1844. There they met up with Stephen and his family. Together they pioneered in the new territory, Stephen as a baker and Redman as a blacksmith.

The children of Peter Goldsack and Susannah Sharp (and their grandchildren): The children were all baptised at St. Margaret’s at Cliffe:

(3) John (8 Nov 1734- bur.7 Dec 1761, St. Margaret’s) Twin

(3) Elizabeth (10 Nov 1734- 16 Mar 1795, East Langdon) Twin m. (13 Oct 1759) John Kemp

(4) James Kemp (1760) m. (14 Apr 1782, Dover) Mary Cowley

(5) Elizabeth Kemp (bp.8 Jun 1783, Dover)

(5) Samuel Cowley Kemp (6 Nov 1785, Dover)

(5) Catherine Kemp (bp. 2 Sept 1787, Dover)

(5) Mary Ann Kemp (1 Nov 1789, Dover)

(5) Samuel Kemp (16 Dec 1791, Dover)

(5) Edward Kemp (14 Mar 1794, Dover)

(5) Bettsy Kemp (14 Mar 1794, Dover)

(5) Bettsy Kemp (26 May 1795, Dover)

(5) James Cowley Kemp (30 Mar 1797, Dover) m. Harriet

(6) Samuel Valentine Kemp (14 Feb 1829, bp. 19 Feb 1832, Dover)

(6) Harriet Kemp (bp. 14 Jan 1831, Dover- 8 Feb 1831, Dover)

(6) Thomas Newport Kemp (5 Jan 1832, bp. 19 Feb 1832)

(6) Harriet Critchell Kemp (17 Feb 1834, Dover)

(6) Catherine Charlotte Kemp (bp. 23 Apr 1836, Dover)

(6) Joseph Kemp (bp. 4 Oct 1840, Folkestone)

(6) Ellen Kemp (bp. 4 Oct 1840, Folkestone)

(5) Sarah Kemp (15 Nov 1798, Dover)

(5) Sarah Kemp (2 Jan 1800, Dover)

(5) Sarah Kemp (12 Nov 1801, Dover)

(5) Samuel Kemp (12 Nov 1801, Dover) m. (14 Aug 1832, Dover) Elizabeth Wood

(6) Samuel Kemp (bp. 1 Aug 1834, Dover)

(5) Richard Kemp (30 Sept 1803, Dover) m. (18 Aug 1833, Deal) Elizabeth Blissendon

(4) Elizabeth Kemp (1764)

(4) John Kemp (1767)

(4) William Kemp (1770, East Langdon-buried 12 Apr 1842, East Langdon) m.(5 May 1792, East Langdon) Mary Jorson. Children baptised at East Langdon:

(5) Jane Kemp (bp. 1 Jan 1792-bur.12 Mar 1867) m.(10 Oct 1813, E.L) Joseph Hopper

(6) William Hopper (1817-1878) m.(9 Aug 1840, E.L.) Mary Ann Laming (1817, Kingsdown) *In 1881 Mary Ann was living at Langdon Abbey, West Langdon, working as a Servant.

(7) Joseph Hopper (1847, E.Langdon-1924) m.(5 Dec 1869) Alice Collard (1850,Whitfield) * In 1881 they were living at Elm Tree Cottage, Whitfield, Joseph was a Farm Labourer. Alice’s father, Stephen Collard (age 53) was living with them. In 1901 Joseph and Alice were at Whitfield. Joseph was a Waggoneer on a Farm.

(8) Alfred Hopper (1869, Whitfield)

(8) Joseph Hopper (1871, Whitfield)

(8) Thomas Hopper (1873, Pinchaner-1916) m.(9 Apr 1899) Emily Harvey (1879, Selling) *In 1901 they were at Whitfield. Thomas was a Labourer on the Water Works.

(9) Stanley Arthur Hopper (1904-1990) m.(8 Feb 1928) Dorothy May White

(8) Frederick C. Hopper (1875, Whitfield) * A Gardener (Nursery) at Whitfield in 1901

(8) William Hopper (1876, Whitfield) * Living at Whitfield in 1901, Agricultural Labourer.

(8) Charles H. Hopper (1877, Whitfield)

(8) John E. Hopper (1880, Whitfield) * A Bricklayer at Whitfield in 1901

(7) Alfred Hopper (1857, E.Langdon) m. (Q4 1889, Dover) Emily Mary Chapman (1861, St. Margaret’s) * Alfred was a Farm Labourer at Langdon Abbey, West Langdon in 1881, Emily was a Housemaid at 89 Maison Dieu Road, Charlton. In 1901 they were living at Whitfield, Alfred was a Carter on a Farm.

(7) Emily E. Hopper (1860, E. Langdon) * Servant at Langdon Abbey in 1881.

(4) Cordelia Kemp (1772)

(4) Sarah Kemp (1775)

(4) Joseph Kemp (1779) m. (23 May 1802, Chatham) Elizabeth Plain

(3) Susannah (22 May 1737) m.(1761, St. Margaret’s) Thomas Young

(3) George (1 Jul 1739) m.(1 Aug 1764, St. Margaret’s) Ann Young Witnesses were John Sutton and Henry Bowls

(3) Ann (13 Mar 1742 –bur. 9 May 1744, St. Margaret’s)

(3) Peter (23 Jun 1745, St. Margaret’s –buried 2 Jan 1825, East Langdon) m. (12 May 1767, East Langdon) Martha Philips (1744-bur. 23 Aug 1831, East Langdon)

(4) Ann (23 Aug 1767 (12 o’clock), South Walmer- bur. 20 Oct 1779, East Langdon)

(4) Peter (bp. 2 April 1769, East Langdon-bur. 15 June 1794, East Langdon)

(4) Susannah (bp. 2 Dec 1770, East Langdon- Q2 1844, Bridge) m. (1805) Charles Hopkins

(5) Charles Hopkins (1805, Tilmanstone- Q1 1893, Blean) m (Q4 1841, Bridge) *In 1881 Charles was a widow, living with his son Thomas. He was a Gardener (occupying 3 quarters of an acre).

(6) Thomas Hopkins (1841, Staple) m. (Q2 1868, Blean) Jane Payton (1846, Whitstable) * In 1881 Thomas was a Master Mariner living at 10 Norfolk Street, Whitstable. In 1901 Thomas was a Coal Merchant at Blean. He was a widow.

(7) Edith J. Hopkins (1870, Whitstable) * In 1901Edith was a Dressmaker at Blean.

(7) Charles T. Hopkins (1871, Whitstable)

(7) William Henry Hopkins (Q3 1873, Whitstable)

(7) George Richard Hopkins (Q2 1875, Whitstable) * In 1901 George was General Carter at Blean.

(7) Alice Mary Hopkins (Q4 1876, Whitstable)

(7) Emily G. Hopkins (1879, Whitstable)

(7) Frederick J. Hopkins (1880, Whitstable)

(7) Ellen Hopkins (1883, Whitstable) * In 1901 Ellen was a Dressmaker at Blean.

(7) Kate Hopkins (1885, Whitstable)

(7) Lilian Hopkins (1889, Blean)

(6) Charles Hopkins (1850, Staple) m. Rachel (1850, Staple) *In 1881 Charles was a Bricklayer’s Labourer living at 39 Victoria Street, Whitstable. In 1901 he was still at Whitstable working as a Bricklayer’s Labourer.

(7) Minnie Hopkins (1873, Whitstable) * A General Domestic at Whitstable in 1901

(7) Frances Hopkins ( Q2 1877, Whitstable) m. (Q1 1899, Eastry) William Thomas Betts * In 1901 Frances was living at Whitstable.

(7) Emily Hopkins (Q4 1880, Whitstable) *4 months old on census day. In 1901 Emily was a Teacher at Margate.

(6) Thomas Hopkins (1810, Staple) m. Charlotte Tritton (19 Nov 1817, Woodnesborough – bur.9 Sept 1859,Staple)* In 1881 Thomas was a widow living with his daughter Susannah at Ramsgate. He was Formerly a Market Gardener.

(7) Stephen Hopkins (1840, Staple) m. Emily (1860, Dover) *In 1881 Stephen and Emily were living at 5 Stones Cottages, Canterbury (St. Mildred). Stephen was a General Labourer. In 1901 they were living at Sheldwich. Stephen was a Timber Waggoner.

(7) William Hopkins (1843, Staple) *In 1881 William was a Able Bodied Seaman on board the “Julia” at Plymouth, Devon. He was married. In 1901 William was a Labourer at the Royal Arsenal in Plumstead.

(7) Thomas Hopkins (1845, Staple- 26 April 1927, Sheldwich) m. Ann Martha Hills (1845, Canterbury) *May have been at Shottenden Perry Wood, Chilham in 1881 working as an Agricultural Labourer. In 1901 They were at Sheldwich. Thomas was a Farmer and Timber Carrier.

(8) Annie Hopkins (1870, Elmstead)

(8) Minnie Hopkins (1872, Elmstead)

(8) Frank Hopkins (1873, Chilham) * At Sheldwhich in 1901 working as a Wood Miller

(8) Frederick Hopkins (1878, Chilham) * At Sheldwich in 1901

(8) John Hopkins (1880, Chilham) *3 months old on census day.

(8) Daisy Hopkins (1883, Chilham)

(8) Lucy Hopkins (1885, Chilham)

(7) Susannah Hopkins (1847, Staple,bp. 14 Mar 1847) m. (17 Feb 1872, Staple) Henry Ralph ( 1842, Staple) *In 1881 Susannah and Henry were living at 3 Cavendish Street, Ramsgate, Henry was a Warehouse man and Susannah was a Dressmaker. Susannah’s father and brother were also living there.

(7) Charles Hopkins (1848, Staple, bp. 19 Mar 1848)

(7) Matilda Hopkins (1851, Staple)

(7) John Morgen (Monger) Hopkins (1852, Staple) m. (Q2 1881, Thanet) Frances Goodban (1844, Ash) *In 1881 John was a Bricklayer at Ramsgate. In 1901 he was a carting Contractor. In 1901 the age of Frances is given as 57, however, the 1881 census shows a Fanny Goodban (1866, Ash) working as a Servant at Nicholl Farm, Chartham.

(8) Sydney Hopkins (1883, St. Lawrence) * A Carpenter in 1901, at St. Lawrence.

(8) Alfred Hopkins (1885, St. Lawrence) * A Printer’s Apprentice in 1901, at St. Lawrence.

(8) Daisy Hopkins (1886, St. Lawrence) * A Pupil Teacher in 1901, at St. Lawrence.

(7) Henry Hopkins (1855, Staple) m. (Q1 1875, Eastry) Jane Warman (1854, Sandwich) * Henry was a Butcher at Sandwich in 1881. In 1901 he was living at Littlebourneand working as a Slaughterman/Butcher.

(8) Henry Hopkins (1874, Sandwich)

(8) Ellen Hopkins (1876, Sandwich)

(8) Walter Hopkins (1879, Sandwich)

(8) Charles Hopkins (1880, Sandwich) *3 months old on census day. Working as an Agricultural Labourer at Littlebourne in 1901.

(8) Jane Hopkins (1883, Sandwich) * At Littlebourne in 1901

(8) William Hopkins (1884, Littlebourne) * At Littlebourne in 1901 – Agricultural Labourer

(8) Edith Hopkins (1889, Littlebourne)

(8) James Hopkins (1890, Littlebourne)

(8) Sidney Hopkins (1893, Littlebourne)

(6) Charlotte Fanny Hopkins (1858, Staple)

* Note: at Tilmanstone in 1851 there was a Susanna Hopkins (1834, Sibertswold). She is listed as a daughter of Edward Cock (1824, Tilmanstone) and Amy Cock (1814, Sibertswold). Amy was certainly married to a Hopkins at one time.

(4) Mary (bp.14 Aug 1772, East Langdon) m. (17 Aug 1801, St. Andrews, Buckland) Richard Attwood * Both were from the parish of Buckland, Richard signed his name and Mary signed with an X. Witnessed by Richard Harris and Susannah Ames.

(5) Elizabeth Attwood (bp. 5 Dec 1802, Buckland)

(5) Ann Attwood (bp. 9 Sept 1804, Buckland)

(5) Susanna Attwood (bp.8 June 1806, Buckland)

(5) Richard John Attwood (bp. 24 Feb 1811, Dover) m. (19 Feb 1838, Dover) Mary Bell

(5) Hannah Attwood (bp. 13 Dec 1812, Dover)

(4) George (13 Mar 1774, West Langdon, bapt 13 Mar 1774- buried 26 Aug 1863, W. Langdon) m.(8 Sept 1803, Northbourne) Elizabeth Prebble (Preebel) (Preeble) (19 Dec 1779, Swingfield-buried 14 March 1864, W. Langdon) Elizabeth was the daughter of John and Elizabeth Preeble. *The Banns for George and Elizabeth were called in 1800, but, they were not married until 1803. There is speculation that George was impressed into the Navy and served in the Fleet under the command of Lord Nelson – with speculation that he was on board the “Victory” at Trafalgar. This has not been proved. Records show that Elizabeth Preeble gave birth to an illegitimate son. The boy, “John Goldsick” was baptized at Whitfield on July 6^th, 1800. 1841 and 1851 George was an Agricultural Labourer. In 1861 they were living with their son Stephen.

(5) John (31 May 1800, Northbourne, bp. 6 July, Whitfield – bur. 23 Aug 1883, Walmer) m.(19 Apr 1838, St. Dunstan, Canterbury) Susan (Susanne) Brown (1793, Winglian- buried 6 May 1873, Walmer – father James Brown) * In 1840 John was a Baker at Walmer. In 1851 John was visiting at St. Nicholas, Wade. From 1861-1871 he was a Retired Baker living on High Street, Walmer. A widow in 1881, John was living with his brother Peter on Upper Deal Road, Deal. He was an Annuitant. The Deal paper reported that John died at Kent Cottage, Upper Deal. The administration of his estate was granted to Peter Goldsack, 1 Kent Cottage, Deal on 5 Sept 1883. On 4 Oct 1883 the administration of Susan’s Will was conditionally granted to the widow of John Brown, Jane Brown from 27 Orchard St., St. Dunstan, Canterbury. In 1881 Jane was a Retired Innkeeper living at the same address.

Note: There was a Goldsack Family living at 29 Orchard Street, St. Dunstan, Canterbury in 1881. Sarah Goldsack (1837, Blean) was the widow of Thomas Goldsack (1838-1875). She working as a Laundress. Elizabeth C. Parsons (1852, St. Stephens) and her son, Edward W. Parson (1877, Ashford were visiting.

() William Bond Goldsack (Q4 1869, Canterbury) m. (Q4 1894, Sunderland) Elizabeth * In 1885 William entered the Royal Navy (No. 133.907)

() Annie Sarah Goldsack (Q3 1875, Blean) m. (Q4 1897, Sheppey)

There is a Memorial stone at St. Mary’s, Walmer – Row 4, from Lych Gate Path, 158, “ In Memory of Susannah, beloved wife of John Goldsack of Walmer, who died 29 April 1873, aged 81 years. Also, in the adjoining grave, Lydia Brown (1792-1871), sister of the above, died aged 79 years. Also the above John Goldsack, died 20 August 1883, aged 83 years”.

(5) George ( 27 Mar 1804, bp.15 Apr 1804, Whitfield-4 Aug 1876) m.(17 Nov 1832, Guston) Ann Chandler (bp 6 Nov 1808-6 Aug 1875,West Langdon) * In 1841 George was a Agricultural Labourer at East Langdon. From 1851-1861 he was at West Langdon working as an Agricultural Labourer. On 29 Mar 1877 administration of his effects were granted to his son George of West Langdon. Note: Ann is descended from a brother of the Ann Chandler who married Henry Goldsack in 1780.

All children baptised at Whitfield:

(6) George (12 Sept 1833, bp.13 Oct, Whitfield) m (Q4 1857, Dover) Mary Alice Hopper (1838, E.Langdon-1906) * In 1851 George was a Servant to Richard Coleman, Farmer, at Langdon Abbey. He was an Agricultural Labourer at West Landon in 1861, and was living at Napchester, Northbourne in 1881and working as an Agricultural Labourer. His sister-in-Law, Sarah Chalcraft (1826, St. Margaret’s) was visiting. He was still at Northbourne in 1901 working as an Ordinary Agricultural Labourer (age listed as 66).

(7) Alice (bp. 18 Apr 1858) m. (25 Sept 1884, Northbourne) John Phillips (1862,New Brompton) *In 1881 Alice was a housemaid for Thomas Wood at Northbourne Cottage, Northbourne. In 1881 John was living with his parents, William R. and Mary Ann Phillips, at Little Mongeham . William was a Wheelright Carpenter and John was working for him. In 1901 Alice and John were at Great Mongeham, John was a Carpenter and Undertaker.

(8) Percy Phillips (1888)

(7) Susan Sarah Jane (3 Aug 1868, West Langdon) m.(20 Dec 1898, Waldershare) George T. Richards (1870, Dover) * In Dover in 1901. George was a Police Constable.

(6) Peter (25 Oct 1835, bp. 22 Nov 1835, Whitfield- 4 Dec 1884, West Langdon) A lodger at the house of William Dixon at Farm House, West Langdon in 1881. A Farm Labourer. Unmarried.

(6) Ann (8 Mar 1838, bp. 22 Apr 1838, Whitfield- 1 Sept 1913) m. William Dixon (1837, Ringwould-7 Feb 1922)* In 1881 they were living at Farm House, West Langdon. William was a Farm Labourer. In 1901 they are at West Langdon. William is working as an Agricultural Labourer. Ann’s birthplace is listed as Napchester in 1881 and 1901

(7) Mary Ann Dixon (30 Aug 1863 – Q2 1881) * Living with parents in 1881

(7) Esther Dixon (27 Jan 1865, Singledge) *In 1901 living with parents, unmarried.

(6) Sarah (3 Apr 1840, bp. 17 May, Whitfield- 5 Dec 1899) m.(1873, West Langdon) Henry Hambrook (1848 -25 Jul 1881) * In 1881 Henry was a Master Fisherman on board the “Ishiel” at Flamborough, York. Sarah was living with her sister Mary Axon at 5 Ashburnham Terrace, St. Lawrence.

(6) Hannah (4 June 1842, bp. 24 Jul, Whitfield-11 May 1929) m.(4 June 1873) Henry White (1844, Eythorne-11 Jan 1927)* In 1881 they were living at Maydensole Rise, Little Mongeham, Henry was an Agricultural Labourer. In 1901 Hannah was at Little Mongeham.

(7) Fanny White (1874, Little Mongeham)

(7) Frederick White (1876, Little Mongeham-1953) m.(26 Dec 1896, Whitfield) Emma Bertha Fagg

(8) Dorothy May White (1904-1994) m.(1928, Whitfield) Stanley Arthur Hopper

(7) George White (1880, Little Mongeham)

(7) Henry Joseph White (1882-1891)

(7) Annie Maria (1885-1961) m. (1909) Leonard Baxter

(6) Mary (18 Jun 1844, bp. 21 Jul, Whitfield-15 Apr 1916) m.(24 Aug 1872, W.Langdon) Daniel Bailey Axon (30 Aug 1847,Walmer-2 Jun 1911) *In 1881 Daniel was a Police Constable at St. Lawrence. In 1901 they are at Ramsgate. Daniel is working as a Under Baliff for the County Court. After Daniel’s death Mary joined her sister Susan at Union Road Dairy, Dover. Mary was living at Ramsgate in 1901

(6) Susan (20 Apr 1847, bp. 23 May, Whitfield -24 Mar 1939) m. Frank Seath (1852, Wootton- 1 Apr 1917) In 1881 Frank was lodging with Richard Masted at Hougham. He was working as an Agricultural Labourer for Mr. Masted. In 1901 they are at Buckland, Dover, Frank was running the Whitehall Dairy.

(7) Frank Seath (1889, Ringwould - 28 Aug 1937) m. Edie Goddard *In 1891 Frank’s place of birth was given as Ringwould. In 1901 it was given as Kingsdown.

(6) Jane (13 Apr 1849, West Langdon, bp. 17 June 1849, Whitfield-1933) m. Edward (Ted) Appleton (1860, Dover) * In 1881 Edward was living with his widowed mother, Hannah (age 47) at Charlton. Ted was a Gardener. Jane is living with her cousins Susanna and Richard Goldsack (unmarried siblings, both born at Napchester) at London Road, Buckland by Dover, she was a Needlewoman. In 1901 the couple was living at Whitehall Dairy in Buckland, Dover. Ted is working as a Dairyman.

(5) Thomas (5 Mar 1808 – bur 14 Apr 1836, West Langdon) * From the Kentish Gazette (19 Apr 1836) “ On Saturday last an inquest was held at Ripple near Deal, before M. T.T. Dehasaux on the body of Thomas Goldsack, in the employ of Mr. Garside, who it appeared on evidence was driving a horse and cart, when the animal took fright and ran up a bank, by which means the cart was overturned and falling on the neck of the unfortunate man killed him on the spot. The jury returned a verdict of accidental death and levied a demand of 1s on the cart and a similar sum on the horse”.

(5) Elizabeth (28 May 1809, bp. 30 Jul 1809, Whitfield–19 Sept 1895, Folkestone) * Elizabeth gave birth to George when she was 28 years old. No father was listed on his birth records. In 1881 Elizabeth was a pensioner living with her son George at Folkestone. She is listed as a widow. Note: there is speculation that George’s father may have been John Goldsack, Master Gunner at Dover Garrison (as told by John Freeman Goldsack – information supplied by Bob Goldsack).

(6) George (b. bp. 10 Oct 1837,Northbourne-1907, Folkestone –Father unknown) m.(7 Dec 1867, Charlton) Ann Freeman (27 Dec 1832, Dover-22 Nov 1872, Charlton) m(2). (Q4 1873, Elham) Elizabeth Ann Jenkins (1832, Salbenny, Pembroke, Wales) m.3 Lucy (mentioned in his obituary) * At 7 Clifton Road, Folkestone in 1881. George was working as a House Agent Assistant, his wife was a Lodging House Keeper. George’s mother was living with them. In 1901 George was still living at Folkestone - House Agent Clerk. Elizabeth may have been a Domestic Housekeeper at Milford, Pembroke.

(7) Charlotte (Lottie) Anne Elizabeth (Q4 1867, Eythorne-1952) m.(Q4 1893, Dover) William T. Johnson (1865, Dover-1910) * In 1881 Charlotte was boarding out and attending Lyme House School in Eythorne. William was living with his parents, William and Hannah Johnson, at 1 Blenhiem Square, Dover. He was a Builder’s Messenger. In 1893 William was a Carpenter. In 1901 Charlotte and William were living at Charlton. William was a Builder’s Foreman.

(8) Vivian Florence (Ivy) Johnson (21 May 1894, Dover-17 Feb 1978, Hounslow) m. (31 Jan 1930) John H. Lawrence (1895-1930)

(8) William George (Sonny) Johnson (28 Feb 1896, Plumstead- 21 Apr 1918, Cugny, France)

(8) Cecil Henry Johnson (Apr 1898-Jul 1898, Deal)

(8) Leslie Freeman Johnson (27 Mar 1900-23 Jul 1974) m. Lena Parker

(7) George William (12 Aug 1865, Dover-26 Sept 1943, Cheriton) m. Alice Mary Hanson (1868, Ashford) * In 1881 George was living with his parents at 7 Clifton Road, Folkestone. He was a Jeweller’s Apprentice. In 1891 he was at 22 Guildhall Street, Folkestone working as a Jeweller. In 1901 George was a Watchmaker at Folkestone and in 1903 he was still living at 22 Guildhall Street and working as a Watchmaer.

(8) William George (13 Oct 1890, Folkestone – d. Kenya) He was married 3 times – 1. Mary Henderson Douglas, 2. Anne Breward, 3. Harys Vivien de Mohun Moon. William served with the 11^th L. Army Mot. Bty. On 1 Mar 1917 he was promoted to full Lieutenant. The 30 May 1919 edition of the London Gazette reported that Lt. W. G. Goldsack was awarded the Military Cross. William later emigrated to Kenya, Africa and died there in the 1950s.

(8) Mabel Alice (Daisy) (Q4 1892, Folkestone-1935) Unmarried. Daisy was a Nursing Sister with B.E.F. during the War (1914-1918) in France.

(7) John Freeman (22 Nov 1872, Folkstone- Oct 1950, Plumstead) m.(Q1 1894, Elham) Margaret Elizabeth Daw (3 Sept 1872, Folkestone-14 April 1941, Plumstead). John was living with his family at 7 Clifton Road, Folkestone in 1881. At Folkestone in 1901 working as a Saddler Harness Maker. IN 1903 John was a Saddler living at 16 Cheriton Street, Folkestone. In 1908 John was living at 23 Nadine Street, Charlton. In 1909 he had moved to 13 Nadine Street. In 1911 he was on Nyanza Street, Plumstead. In 1912 he was at 48 Albatross Street, Plumstead. From 1914-1920 he was living at 54 Palmerston Road, Plumstead.

(8) John Freeman (Jack) (17 Jul 1899, Folkestone-1972) m.(11 Feb 1940, Plumstead) Rose A. Marguerite Brooks (25 Nov 1909, Greenwich-22 Feb 1974, Plumstead)

(9) Robert John

(9) Peter James

(8) George Daw (30 Aug 1906, Folkestone) m. Alice Aplin (Q41899, Nottingham) Alice may have been the daughter of Jesse and Mary Aplin. They were Lace Makers at Nottingham in 1901.

(8) Bernard Freeman (27 June 1909-1909, Plumstead)

(8) Murial Anne Freeman (18 Sept 1911-20 Sept 1953, Plumstead) m. William Russell (1911-18 Feb 1944, Italy)

(8) Lionel Freeman (Q4 1917, Woolwich-1980s, London) m.(1841) Mabel Tarrant

(9) Peter

(9) Stanley Roger

(5) Mary (20 Dec 1810, Napchester bp. 27 Jan 1811,Whitfield -1895) m. (31 Jul 1830, Northbourne) Thomas Chapman, m2. ?? Abbott. * There was a baptism at Whitfield on Dec. 25, 1826 for William, illegitimate son of George Jones and Mary Goldsack. The Banns for George and Mary’s marriage were called, but, they never married. In 1861 Mary was a widow living at 39 Bridge Street, Charlton with her two sons and nephew, George. She was a Dealer in Pork and Vegetables. In 1881 Mary was living at 5 Churchill Street, Charlton in the home of Henry James Hall (age 37, Godmersham). Mary’s relationship to the head of the household is listed as “Mother”. Also living in the house was Henry’s daughter, Agnes Matilda Hall (aged 4, Dover).

(6) Margaret Abbott (d.Q3 1877, Dover?) m. (Q4 1859, Sheppey) Henry James Hall (1844, Godmersham) * In 1881 Henry was an unemployed Railway Guard. He was a widow. He remarried Daisy Ann Curling (1865, Hernhill) in Q4 1884 at Faversham. In 1881 Daisy was a Domestic Servant for the Vicar (John Thorpe) at Hernhill. In 1901 Daisy was living at Luddenham. She was a widow and was living at the Rectory (Faversham), she was a Servant for the Rector, Barringto S. Wright.

(7) Agnes Matilda Hall (1876, Dover)

(5) Martha Maria (23 Feb 1812, Napchester, bp. 26 Apr 1812, Whitfield) m. Joseph Castle (1809, Northbourne) *In 1881 Martha and Joseph were living on Dover Road, Walmer, Joseph was a Farm Labourer. In 1891 they were still at Walmer, Joseph was still a Farm Labourer. In 1891 their granddaughter, Ada Goldsack (wife of Edward Henry) and her two children, Ada and Martha were living with them.

(6) Joseph (1840, Northbourne) m (Q1 1871) Cecilia Dines (1844, Sutton) * In 1881 Joseph was a Marine Store Dealer living with his parents at Walmer. He is listed as married, but his wife is not present. Cecilia was an inmate at the Union Workhouse in Eastry. She is listed as a Widow. In 1901 Joseph was a widow, boarding at 8 Clarence Villas, Margate and working as a General Labourer.

(7) John Castle (1872, Sutton)

(6) William Castle (1844, Northbourne- bur.31 Aug 1927, St. Lawrence) m. (Q3 1871, Thanet) Susannah Bowles (1847, Walmer –bur. 6 Jan 1912, St. Lawrence) *In 1881 William and Susannah were living at High Street, St. Peter’s. William was a Domestic Gardener. In 1901 William and Susannah were living at St. Lawrence. William was a Gardener. At the time of Susannah’s death in 1912 they were living at 20 Lorne Road, St. Lawrence. When William died in 1927 he was living at 40 Frederick Road, Hastings.

(7) Emily Elizabeth Castle (1872, Birchington) m. (Q4 1900, Thanet) David Ambrose Oliver (1873, Chartham) * In 1901 Emily and David were living at Ashford. David was working as a Railway Engine Stoker.

(7) William Allen Castle (1873, St. James, Paddington)

(7) Ada Mary Castle (1875, Garlinge) m. (Q4 1898, Thanet) James Thomas Wood * In 1901 James and Ada were living at Ramsgate.

(7) Edith Emma Castle (1876, St. Peter’s) * In 1901 Edith was a Domestic Housekeeper at St. Lawrence.

(7) John Castle (1878, St. Peter’s)

(7) Frederick Castle (1880, St. Peter’s) m. (Q1 1901, Thanet) Alice Sarah Caseley (1880, Ramsgate) *In 1881 Fred was a Journeyman Butcher at St. Lawrence.

(8) Frederick Charles Castle (May 1901–bur 3 Sept 1901, St. Lawrence.

(6) Eliza Castle (1846, Northbourne) *In 1881 Eliza was an unmarried Annuitant living at St. Radigrund, Tr. No. 1, Buckland in Dover. In 1901 Eliza was living on her own mean at Dover.

(7) Arthur Castle (1873, Buckland) m. (Q1 1899, Dover) Edith Emily Lord (1872, Todmorden,York)*Emily was living with her widowed mother and siblings at 28 York Street, Langfield, York in 1881. Her mother was Mary Lord (nee: Crabtree). In 1901 Arthur was a Carpenter and Joiner at Dover.

(8) Arthur Castle (1900, Dover)

(8) Jason Castle (1901, Gillingham)

(6) John Castle (1849, Northbourne) m. (Q3 1871, Easington, Durham) Esther (1848, Lead Gate, Durham) *In 1881 John was a Coal Miner and they were living at 31 Heanor Road, Ilkeston, Derby. In 1901 they were at Tudhoe, Durham. John was a Coal Miner Hewer.

(7) Joseph Castle (1874, Hough Hall, Durham) m. (Q3 1896, Durham) Barbara Ellen Clement(1872, Thornley, Durham) * In 1881 Barbara was living with her parents, Henry and Barbara Clement, at Tudhoe. Henry was a Tailor. In 1901 Joseph and Barbara were living at Tudhoe, Durham. Joseph was a Coal Miner Hewer.

(8) John Castle (1897, Spennymoor, Mt. Pleasant, Durham)

(7) Sarah Castle (1880, Lodhoe Grange, Durham) m. (Q2 1899, Aukland, Durham) James Henry Child (1860, Leeds, York) * In 1881 James was lodging at the home of George Ward in Camberwell. In 1901 James was a Labourer at the Ironworks. They were living at Merrington Lane, Durham.

(8) Barbara Child (1898, Spennymoor)

(8) Esther Child (1900, Spennymoor) * 7 months old on census day.

(7) William Castle (1882, Ilkeston) * In 1901 working as a Coal Miner Putter Below at Tudhoe

(5) Peter (13 Jan 1814, bp. 20 Feb 1814, Whitfield – Q2 1895, Eastry) m. (Q2 1850, Greenwich) Emma Penny (1828, Lewisham-1910) * At Kent Cottage, Upper Deal Road, Deal in 1881 working as a Gardener. His 80 year old brother, John, is living with them. In 1891 he was a Retired Gardener living at 3 St. Leonards Terrace, Deal. His Estate (274 Pounds) was granted to his Widow, Emma in 1895.

(6) John George (bp. 5 Oct 1851,Deptford) (1m) (Q4 1876, Lewisham) Catherine Jane Penney (1852-1881) (m2) (31 Dec 1885, Upper Deal) Jane Elizabeth Wanstall (1855, Northbourne-1917) * In 1881 John was a 2^nd Class Clerk at Clifton House, Camberwell. In 1881 Jane was a Housemaid at New Grake Terrace, Upper Deal Road, Deal. In 1885 John was a widower living at St. Marks, Peckham working as a Telegraphist. Living at 38 Lugard Rd., Camberwell and working as a Civil Servant Assistant Superintendent in 1901. In 1918 John and Jane were living at 20 Balcaskie Road, Eltham. All children born at Peckham, Surrey.

(7) Edmund (Q1 1880) m.(Q4 1903) Emily Kemp * Clerk at East Ham School in 1901 (Camberwell)

(7) Catherine Jane (Q4 1881) * Civil Servant, Telegraphist (38 Lugard Rd.,Camberwell) in 1901

(7) Emily Elizabeth (Q41888)

(7) John George William (14 May 1895- Sunday 29 Sept 1918). * John served with the 17th Bn., Royal Fusiliers (Private). He was killed in action in France and is buried at FLESQUIERES HILL BRITISH CEMETERY, Nord.

(6) Peter Thomas (Q4 1862, Upper Deal) m.(Q3 1887, Camberwell) Eleanor (Ellen) Watts (1858, Ireland-1947) * In 1881 Peter was a Domestic Footman (probably for someone in the clergy) at the Precincts, Christchurch, Canterbury. He was living in a household of 3 servants, headed by Anne Peters (age 32, Housemaid) In 1881 Ellen was a Housemaid for John Crichton (1803, Ireland) (Earl of Erne). The residence was at 96 Eaton Square, London. Including the Countess (Selina, 1805, Ireland) there was the Earl’s son, Henry (1845, Ireland – Captain of the 21^st Hussars) and his wife (Grace, 1845, London) and 5 children. There were 12 servants in the household. Peter and Ellen were living at 56 Hollydale Road, Camberwell, London in 1901, Peter was working as a Girl Servant Attendant.

(7) Walter Thomas (Q4 1889, Camberwell-1956) m.(Q4 1913, Willesden) Alice Eleanor Hare

(8) Eileen K. (Q4 1913, Marylebone)

(7) Helena (Q2 1888, Camberwell) m. Leslie David Clayton

(7) Blanche (Q3 1899, Camberwell)

(5) Richard (21 Feb 1815, Napchester, bp. 19 Mar 1815, Whitfield- 29 Jul 1898, Buckland) Unmarried. * In 1881 at 97 London Road, Buckland, living with his sister Susannah. Unemployed. Will proved by Susannah Goldsack, Spinster and George Marsh, Grocer’s Assistant

(5) William (2 Apr 1816, bp.14 Apr 1816, Whitfield-bur. 20 Feb 1871, West Langdon) m.(18 Oct 1842) Mary Anne Hopper (d.24 Sept 1846, East Langdon)

(6) John (bp. 7 Jul 1844, Whitfield-Q1 1921, Bromley) m.(5 Dec 1869) Emma Setterfield (1845, Brambling) Emma was the daughter of Robert Setterfield, Carpenter. In 1861 John was living with Joseph Garside and was working as a Houseboy at Langdon Abbey. In 1871 he was a Groom at East Langdon. In 1881 John was working as a Groom at East Langdon and Oxney. In 1901 he and Emma were at Oxney, John was still a Groom. May be buried at St. Giles the Abbot, Farnborough.

(7) Emma (1870, West Langdon) * Un married in 1901. At Dover –living with her Aunt Susan and working as her Companion.

(7) John (1873, Oxney) * In 1901 at East Langdon working as a Milkman on a Farm. May be buried at St. Giles the Abbot, Farnborough.

(7) Annie E. (1875, Oxney)

(7) Adia (1877, Oxney)

(7) William Richard (1879, Oxney-5 Nov 1952, bur. At St. Giles the Abbot, Farnborough) m. (Q2 1904, Lambeth) Rose Eleanor Field (1882-1967) * No mention of William on the 1901 census.

(8) Sydney E. (Q3 1913, Bromley)

(7) Thomas George (1881, Oxney-bur. At St. Giles the Abbot, Farnborough) * 10 weeks old on census day. At Oxney in 1901.

(6) Emma (bp. 18 Jan 1846, Whitfield) m. (1 Nov 1863, St. Martin of Tours, Guston)) John Goldsack (1840, Guston – son of John Goldsack and Mary Ashman) * In 1881 at Waldershare working as an Indoor Farm Servant. Emma is also a Farm Servant. In 1891 they were living at (or on the grounds of) The Mansion, Eythorne, John was a Farm Baliff. In the main house was the Earl Of Guilford (age 14), his sister, Murial Emily North (age 11) and their widowed mother, Georgianna Guilford, plus 13 servants, 1 governess and 2 visitors. In 1901 they were at Coldred Court, Coldred. John was a Farmer. In addition to their daughter Charlotte there were 6 other people in the household, including their niece, Amy E Dashwood (age 5, Canterbury). The others were servants on the farm, Henry Rogers (22, Whitfield) – Carter, Charles Paine (18, Eythorne)-Waggoner Mate, John Richards (14, Guston)- General Worker and Daniel Gambrill (58, Tilmanstone)- Yardman.

(7) Janet Ellen (Q2 1864, Dover) m. (Q4 1888, Eastry) Charles Edward Gambrill (1852 or 1862, Temple Ewell- )* In 1881 Janet E. was living at The Vicarage in Waldershare and working there as a Housemaid for the Rector, Walter Hamilton. In 1881 Charles was working as an Indoor Farm Servant at Waldershare and boarding in the home of John and Emma Goldsack. In 1901 Janet and Charles were living at 22 Peter Street, Dover. Charles’ widowed father, George Gambrill (1830, Whitfield) – Retired Dairyman- was living with them. Charles was working as a General Carrier. In 1881 his age is given as 29. In 1901 he is listed as 39. Note: Marriage record lists her as Janet Helen.

(7) John (1867, Eythorne) * In 1881 an Indoor Farm Servant

(7) Mary (1869, Eythorne)

(7) Fanny (1871, Eythorne)

(7) Charlotte E. (Lottie) (1875, Waldershare) * In 1901 Charlotte was at Coldred.

(7) George William (Q3 1877, Waldershare) m. (12 Oct 1911, Coldred) Edith Annie Gosby (1883, Coldred-d. 6 Mar 1929, 461 Vine Cottages, Coldred) *In 1911 George was a Farmer at Coldred. Edith was the daughter of William Gosby, Builder and Harriet Bean Davison. William and Harriet were married at Dover in Q3 1873. In 1881 William was a Carpenter, living with his family at Coldred Green, Coldred. In 1901 Edith was living with her sisters and brother and widowed father at Coldred.

(8) Mildred (Q1 1916, Dover)

(7) Benjamin (bp. 6 July 1879, Whitfield)

(7) Flora Emma M.(1881, Waldershare) m. Alfred J. Fisher *In 1901 at River working as a Domestic Nurse.

(7) Emma Edith (Q2 1885, Waldershare) m. (Q4 1909, Biddenden) Alfred Payne * In 1901 at Fairlawn, Sibertswold, working as a Housemaid for Horatio Horace Morgan, retired Captain of the Royal Marines. *Isabel Goldsack (aged 16, Guston) was working as a Cook in the household.

(5) Susannah (Susan) (20 Apr 1817, Napchester, bp. 25 May 1817, Whitfield- 3 Oct 1911, Buckland) Unmarried. 1851-1871 Domestic Housekeeper for Richard Coleman at Langdon Abbey. In 1881 at Buckland living on a pension. Her brother Richard is living with her. In 1901 Susan was living at 97 London Road, Dover. She was working at home, living on her own means. Her niece, Emma Goldsack (1870, West Langdon) was living with her as a companion.

(5) Ann (9 May 1819, bp.13 Jun 1819, Whitfield) m.(11 Nov 1848, St. Martin of Tours, Guston) Joseph Hopper (1815, Whitfield - son of William and Ann Hopper) * Ann was a Servant for Richard Coleman in 1841. In 1881 Ann and Joseph were living at Shrubbery Cottage, Buckland in Dover. Joseph was Domestic Servant – Groom.

(5) Stephen (20 Oct 1820, bp.10 Dec 1820, Whitfield, - 5 Feb 1895) m.(4 Feb 1843, E.Langdon) Jane Elizabeth Newing (1822, St. Margarets –bur. 22 May 1899, Buckland). Stephen was a Shepherd in West Langdon. From 1851-1871 Stephen was at West Langdon working as a Shepherd. In 1881 he was living at Pill Gate, Sibertswold and working as a Shepherd. He died at Castlemount Cottage, Dover in 1895.

(6) George Henry (22 Jan 1844, bp.18 Feb, W. Langdon -19 Jan 1927, Healdsburg, California) m. (2 Nov 1872, Silver City, Idaho) Anna Margaret Christina Hyetta Kruckman (1849, Hanover, Germany-1933)* Arrived in the US(may have been impressed into service with the Navy) in the New York area and moved west. Changed his name to ‘Brigham’. In 1860 there was a George H. Brigham living at Forest Hill Township No. 5, in Placer County, California. Anna became a US Citizen in 1869. In 1880 George Brigham and his family were living at Mendocino, Sonoma, California, George was a Miner. In 1909 George Henry Brigham was a City Trustee in Healdsburg. In 1910 George and ‘Annie’ were living on Fitch Street, Healdsburg City. George was living on his “Own Income”. In 1920 George was living at Healdsburg City, Sonoma County, California. In 1930 Anna, a widow, was living at Healdsburg.

(7) Bertha Anna Brigham (2 Dec 1873, Nevada- 29 Apr 1922) m. (25 Dec 1900, California) Ulysses Grant Sargent (1867-1919).

(8) Darrell Henry Sargent

(7) Mamie Louisa Brigham (6 Apr 1875, Utah) m. (23 Dec 1896) Lorin Foreman

(8) Edward Foreman (d.29 May 1928) m. (28 Nov 1920) Emma Flourmey

(8) Gallant Foreman m. Eveyln Shipston

(7) George Henry Brigham (8 Sep 1876, Utah-12 Nov 1920) m.(24 Mar 1901) Florence McClish (1881-1966) m.2 Anna McClish (1872, California)* In 1910 George was a Manager at a Fruit Cannery in Healdsburg City, Sonoma County, California. He was living on Hayden Street with his wife Florence and his daughter Thelma. In 1920 he was a Farmer (Fruit Grower), living in Healdsburg with his wife, Anna. Living on the next property was Anna’s widowed mother Deluce McClish (1851, Indiana), Deluce’s father, John Foreman (1827, Pennsylvania) was living with her. In 1880 the family (McClish) was living in Mendocino, Sonoma. J.L. McClish was a 36 year old Farmer, born in Iowa. His wife was Dulce F. (age 29, Indiana) and their three children were Ralph (aged 11, CA), Henry (aged 10, CA) and Anna (aged 8, CA).

(8) Thelma Brigham (30 May 1908, Sonoma) m. Glen Truitt

(8) Ralph Henry Brigham (21 Oct 1910, Sonoma) m. (1927) Jessie L. Mell (1909, California) * In 1930 Ralph was living with his wife and son in the house of his father in law, Joseph H. Mell (1882, Hawaii –both parents from Portugal). Ralph and Jessie were married in 1827, Ralph was a Labourer – doing Odd Jobbs.

(9) Edward L. Brigham (17 Aug 1928, California – 3 Dec 1998, Santa Rosa)

(8) Carroll W. Brigham (13 Oct 1914, California - 12 June 1998, Fairfield, Solano, CA) m. Elizabeth Anderson. M2. Mary Murray

(9) Jan Brigham m. Colby Brent

*Note: In 1930 there was a Carroll Brigham (age 5, California), listed as a stepson, living in Healdsburg with Hector Rovere (1894, Italy) a Foreman on a Fruit Farm. His wife was named Florence (1888, California). According to the California Death Index Florence B. Rovere was born 11 Jan 1881 in California and died in Sonoma on 5 Mar 1966. Her mother’s maiden name was ‘Foreman’.

(7) Edward Stephen Brigham (5 May 1879, Utah – 26 Aug 1963, Sonoma) m.(1901) Emma L. Sparks (1880, Missouri) *In 1920 Edward and Emma were living at Russian River, Sonoma County, California, he was a Farmer on a General Farm. In 1930 Edward and Emma were living at Santa Rosa, Edward owned his own Farm.

(6) William (bp.31 Aug 1845, West Langdon- 4 Sept 1928, Wanganui, NZ) m.(Q2 1868, Westcliffe) Ellender Sarah Allen (1850-d.17 Sept 1911). Sailed from Plymouth to New Zealand in 1879.

(7) Henry Stephen (1869, Westcliffe- 11 Aug 1941) m. (5 Sept 1901, Wanganui, Wellington) Corrie Margaret Dagg

(8) Henry Adam (20 Apr 1902 – 26 Aug 1988) m. (1 Dec 1928, NZ) Edith Margret Benson (1903,NZ -1957)

(9) Noel (9 Sept 1930, Feilding, Wellington-17 Sept 1998) m.(9 Sept 1950, Feilding) Shirley Barrington (1931, Feilding-1996)

(7) Ellen Sarah (1871, Westcliffe) m. (18 Jan 1896, Wanganui) John Beaumont

(7) George William (1873, Westcliffe) m. (20 Jan 1896, Eastown, Wanganui, Wellington) Margaret Watson (c.1876 – father William)

(7) Albert Edward (1875, Westcliffe- 17 Jul 1910, Wanganui) m. (17 May 1889, Rangitikei, Wellington, NZ) Rose Gertrude Beauchamp (18 Apr 1882, NZ-1971, Wanganui)

(8) Herbert Stanley (1903-18 July 1951, Wanganui)

(8) Mary m. Bert Hansell

(8) Leonard Arthur William (d.1926, Foxton)

(9) Leonard Edward (26 Nov 1926) *Twin

(9) Leslie Albert (26 Nov 1926) *Twin

(8) Leslie

(7) Emily Jane (1877, Westcliffe) m. (29 May 1899, Wanganui) Thomas Watson

(7) Francis John (1881, NZ)

(7) Ethel Maud (1883, NZ)

(7) Elizabeth Ann (1886, NZ)

(7) Mary Bailey

(7) Alfred Allen (1889, NZ) m (1908) Edith Evelyn Loveridge

(8) Alfred Lawrence (1909, NZ – 25 Aug 1993, from the “New Zealand Herald”)

(8) Albert Ernest (1912-1986) m. (1939) Dorothy Agnes Woods (d.1987)

(8) Allan Basil (1914)

(8) Hector Donald (1916)

(8) Stanley Walter (1918)

(8) Jack Gordon

(8) Arthur Ray

(7) Dorothy Edward (1907, NZ-1973) * Adopted child

(6) Stephen (20 May 1847, Dover, bp.4 July, West Langdon-14 Jan 1924, Work House, Lyminge) m.(7 Nov 1874, Preston) Ellen Ann Lilley (1857, Willesboro) *In 1861 Stephen was a Shepherd’s Boy. 1871,1881 and 1891 working as a Chimney Sweep. In 1881 they were living at 2 Market Place, Folkestone. Stephen or Ellen does not appear on the 1901 census. In 1903 Stephen was a Chimney Sweep, they were living at 80 Dover Road, Folkestone.

(7) Phyllis J.(1875, Willesboro)

(7) Thomas (1877, Kingsnorth)

(7) Stephen Edward (10 Aug 1879, W. Ashford, 2 Orchards Place)-1916) m.(19 Jan 1901, Elham) Minnie Margaret Barton (1883, Cheriton-1950, Folkestone) In 1881 Stephen was living with his parents at 2 Market Place, Folkestone. Stephen was employed as a Navvy in 1901 and living at 18 London Street, Folkestone. In 1909 he was a Bricklayer’s Labourer. The family was at 61 Walton Street, Folkstone. Later he was a Porter at the Palace Gardens Theatre. He served with the East Surrey Regiment (Private). He died while in their service on Tuesday July 4, 1916 and is buried in the Plymouth (Western Mill) Cemetery, Devon.

(8) Stephen (1901, Folkestone- 11 Apr 1970, Folkstone) m.Edith Maud Kosch

(8) Lily Helen (3 Feb 1902, Folkestone – 1920)

(8) Elsie May (Q1 1905, Elham-Aug 1997, Ontario) m. Charles Roberts * They moved to Kingston, Ontario

(9) John Roberts

(9) Leslie Beaver Roberts

(9) Jean Roberts

(9) Raymond Roberts (died in the Korean War)

(9) Joan Roberts

(9) Gordon Roberts

(9) Rozanne Roberts

(8) John William (17 Dec 1909, Folkestone – 1963) m. (30 Nov 1935, Whitelackington, Somerset) Esme Annie Jones. * John was born at 61 Walton Road, Folkestone. In 1935 he was on the Civilian Staff, RAF and living at 39 North Street, Folkestone. In 1937 he was on the Isle of Sheppey. In 1942 he was at Taunton, later he was a Detective’s Superintendent for the Heathrow Airport Police.

(8) Phyllis (Q3 1912, Elham) m. Henry Trebel

(8) Rose (Q4 1914, Elham)

(8) Dorothy M. (Q1 1917, Elham)

(7) Kate Martha (Q1 1881, West Ashford) *In 1901 Kate was living at Folkestone and working as a Housemaid.

(6) Louisa (bp. 15 July 1849, West Langdon-21 Aug 1853, West Langdon)

(6) Jane Elizabeth (bp. 22 May 1853, St. Martin of Tours, Guston -20 April 1937) m. (Q2 1878) John E. Fisher (1852, St. Margaret’s-1921) *In 1881 Jane and her family were living with her parents at Sibertswold. John was a Coachman. In 1901 Jane and John were living at Dover. John was a Corporation Gardener.

(7) George E. Fisher (1878, Sibertswold) In 1901 George was a Telephone Inspector at Dover.

(7) Alfred J. Fisher (1880, Sibertswold) m. Flora Emma Goldsack *10 months old on census day. In 1901 Alfred was a Green Grocer’s Assistant at Dover

(6) Edward (bp. 15 Apr 1855, Whitfield -4 July 1857)

(6) Edward Henry (25 Aug 1861, Whitfield) m.(Q1 1887, Eastry) Ada Eliza Castle (1868, Camberwell) * In 1889 Edward was a Chimney Sweep living at 33 The Bayle, Folkstone. The family moved from Kent to Newton-le-Willows, Lancashire in 1891/2. In 1891 Ada and their first two children were living with grandparents, Joseph (1809, Northbourne) and Martha (1812, Napchester) Castle on Dover Road, Walmer. In 1901 they were living at 13 Alfred Road, Newton Le Willows, Lancashire. Edward was working with Furnaces. In 1904 Edward was working as a Labourer at Sankey Sugar Works in Earlestown (Newton-le-Willows).

(7) Ada May(19 Mar 1889, Ringwould) m.(Q2 1912, Warrington) Walter Cook * In 1901 12 year old Ada was living alone at 15 Alfred Street, Newton Le Willows.

(8) Edward O. Goldsack (Q1 1911, Warrington-died as an infant)

(8) Walter Goldsack (1912-died as an infant)

(8) Nettie Cook

(8) Joe Cook

(7) Martha Winifred (Patty) (Q4 1890, Mongeham) m. Stanley Davies

(8) Leslie Davies (1910-1986)

(8) Bessie Davies

(7) Bessie Gertrude ( Q4 1892, Newton-le-Willows) m.(Q3 1914, Warrington) ??Wood

(7) Edward Henry ( Q4 1895, Newton-le-Willows) m. (Q1 1922) Ethel Davies

(8) Edward

(8) Stanley

(8) Joe

(7) William (Q4 1896 – Q1 1897)

(7) George (Q1 1898- Newton-le-Willows – Thursday 12 Oct 1916, France) George served with the 2^nd Battalion, Lancashire Fusiliers – Private. He was killed during the Battle of Transloy Ridge (Battle of the Somme).

(7) Frank (Q1 1900 – Q3 1900)

(7) Phyllis (Q4 1901, Warrington) m. (Q4 1921) ?Jones

(7) Doris ( Q1 1903- Q1 1903)

(7) Jack (18 Jan 1904, Warrington- 25 July 1949) m. (16 Dec 1933, Broadstairs) Helen Francis Ward-Miller (widow) * At the time of their marriage Jack was a Private with the Royal Marines, living at Crownhill Barracks, Plymouth. He played the clarinet in the band.

(8) Pauline (1936)

(8) Jackie (1944)

(7) Arthur (7 Dec 1906- 11 Apr 1963)

(8) Raymond (17 June 1937) m. Elaine Janet Meakings (12 Sept 1942)

(8) Arthur (1940)

(7) Evelyn Mabel ( Q1 1908-Q3 1909)

(6) Susan (9 July 1865, Whitfield, born at West Langdon) *In 1881 Susan was unmarried and living with her parents at Haynes Gate., Sibertswold.

(5) Joseph (11 Feb 1823, bp. 30 March 1823, Whitfield- Q4 1893, Reigate) m. (25 May 1844, Charlton, Dover) Sarah Calcraft (1821, Dover-Q4 1895, Reigate) * In 1881 Joseph was an Engine Driver at 33 Ladbrooke Place, Reigate, Surrey.

(6) Frederick George (1845, Dover) m.(23 Nov 1869, Reigate) Emily Ellen Goringe (1848, Reigate) * In 1881 Fred was a Tailor living at 2 Spring Place, Reigate. In 1901 Fred is still a Tailor living at 29 Grove Hill Road, Reigate.

(7) Henry Joseph Arthur (bp 19 June 1870, St. Matthew, Redhill) m.(Q3 1895, Reigate) Sarah Annie Marchant (1874, Reigate -Q2 1899, Reigate) ,(2m) Q4 1900, Reigate) Minnie Burgess Waldren (1880, Redhill) Working as a Stoker on the S. C. & E. Railway in 1901 at Reigate. He and his two children were living with his parents. He is listed as married on the census, but his wife is not present, however, Minnie was in Reigate. She was the daughter of Frank and Sarah Waldren. In 1881 Frank was a Railway Porter, living at 18 South Road, Reigate.

(8) Roy Frederick (Q4 1898, Marylebone- Sunday, 30 June 1918, France) * Served with the 6^th Battalion, The Queens (Royal West Surrey Regiment), Private. Buried in Dernencourt Communal Cemetery, Somme, France.

(8) Edith May (Q1 1901, Reigate) m.(Q1 1925, Willesden) ? Wright

(8) Ellen Minnie (Q4 1902, Reigate)

(8) Frederick Arthur (Q4 1904) *On August 8, 1920 Frederick arrived in New York on board “Imperator” out of Southampton. He was sent c/o Sir Ashley Sparkes, Long Island, New York and was to stay indefinitely.

(8) Joan (Q3 1920, Reigate) * Mother listed as Walder.

(7) Edith Elizabeth (bp.19 Nov 1871, Redhill) * Living with parents in 1901, Parlourmaid Domestic

(7) Emily Ellen (bp. 26 Apr 1874, Redhill-1881)

(7) Frederick George (4 Feb 1877, Red Hill) m. (24 Feb 1925, Ventura County, California) Lily Johnson (1 Jan 1882, Wimbleton, London -6 Mar 1955, Santa Barbara, CA.) * He was at Illogan, Cornwall in 1901 – no occupation listed. He was the only Goldsack in the town. On December 28, 1912 Frederick arrived in New York on board the “Celtic” from Liverpool. He listed his place of residence as Salisbury. He was going to stay with his brother Cyril at 339 Rutland Road, Brooklyn. Frederick, unmarried, was working as a Butler in Glen Oaks, Montecito, California in 1918. He traveled to Victoria, British Columbia and enlisted there 26 March 1918. He was assigned to 68^th Depot Battery, Canadian Expeditionary Force. He was 5’ 9” tall, medium complexion, brown eyes and brown hair. He had a 36” chest with a 5” expansion. He gave his date of birth at 4 Feb 1880. He listed his brother, Harry, 44 Ladbrooke Road, Redhill, as next of kin. ‘Harry’ was probably Frederick’s brother Henry. In 1920 Frederick was a Valet for Lora J. Moore (aged 55, Illinois) on East Valley Road, Montecito, Santa Barbara. Lora was a widow, she employed 11 servants in her home. In 1930 Frederick and Lily were living at 1303 East Cota Street, Santa Barbara City, California. Frederick was a Valet for a private person. The records state that he first arrived in the US in 1911. Lily arrived on 11 Nov 1924 on board the ‘Olympic’ from South Hampton. Lily was 5 feet 8 inches tall with fair hair and complexion and blue eyes. She was going to work for Mr. George O. Knapp, 1615 Anacapa Street, Santa Barbara. In 1920 George Knapp (23 Jan 1856, Wisconsin) and his wife, Louise S. Knapp (1870, Illinois) were living on Eucalyptus Hill Road, Montecito, Santa Barbara. They employed 11 servants. In 1924 George and Louise arrived in New York on board the “Olympic”, they gave their address as 755 Park Avenue, New York.

(7) Sarah Elsie ( Q3 1884, Reigate- Aug 1957, Middlesex) m.(25 Mar 1906, W.Bromwich, Handsworth) Frank Thompson Norms (1885-1953) * 1 son and 1 daughter.

(7) Margaret Louisa (Q4 1881, Reigate) m. (Q3 1908, Reigate) Jimmy Trow

(7) Cyril Ward (Q1 1888, Reigate) m. Evelyn (Evleen) Maude (1883, County Kildare, Ireland) * On May 27, 1911 Cyril landed in New York on board the “New York” from Southamton. He was unmarried, 6’-2 and a half inches tall, grey eyes and brown hair. He was staying with his friend Ernest Hales at 614-W136th Street, New York City. He listed his birth place as Redhill. His wife also landed in 1911, she was 5’-11” tall, black hair, light complexion and blue eyes. They must have been married in New York. In July 1922 Evelyn and Edna went back to the UK and stayed in Streatham. On September 8, 1922 they arrived back in New York and went to live with Cyril at 23 Reade Street, New York. The manifest notes that Evelyn and Edna were only staying in the US for 3 months. In 1930 Cyril and Evleen and Edna were living at 46 Highwood Terrace (between Highwood Ave and Nesbit Street) in Weehawken, New Jersey. Cyril was a Factory Machinist. The house they lived in was owned by William E. Leclair (he and his wife and son also lived there) and was valued at $12000.00. The Goldsacks paid between $25 and $57 per month rent.

(8) Edna E. (1913, New York-Nov. 2002) m. ? Meadow

(7) Herbert Christopher (Q3 1891, Reigate-Q3 1902, Reigate)

(6) Henry William (1848, Dover) m. (31 Dec 1870, Milton Regis) Sarah Simmonds (1847, Red Hill, Surrey) * Sarah was a resident of Reigate when she married Henry. Her father was George Simmonds. He was a witness to the marriage, as was Henry’s sister in law – Emily Ellen Goldsack. In 1881 the family was at 79, 6^th Ave., Chelsea, Henry was a Piano Manufacturing Bookeeper (Unemployed). In 1901 they were living at 42 Rossiter Road, Streatham, London. Henry was working as a Clerk at the Chemical Works.

(7) Annie Beatrice (1871, Milton next to Sittingbourne)

(7) Minnie Gretrude (1873, Sutton) * In 1901 Minnie was an Assistant School Mistress at Streatham. She was unmarried and living with her parents. On August 3, 1912 Minnie arrived at New York on board the “Cedric” from Liverpool. She was going to stay with her brother, George, at Flatbush, Brooklyn. She was unmarried, 5’-5” tall, greenish eyes and sandy hair.

(7) Ella Maud (Q4 1876, Epsom, Sutton, Surrey) m.(Q2 1916, Wandsworth) ?? DEAN *In 1901 Ella was living with her parents at Streatham.

(7) George Henry (Q3 1878, Epsom, Sutton) m. (New York) Ethel (26 Oct 1882, London- 5 Mar 1975, Pinellas, St. Petersburg, Florida)* On December 1, 1910 George arrived in New York on board the “Majestic “ from Southampton. He was staying with his cousin, Minnie Simmons, 100 W.86^th Street, New York. He was 5’-8 and a half inches tall, grey eyes, brown hair and a freckled complexion. He was unmarried. In 1911 Ethel arrived in New York. She and Marjorie left on July 3, 1923 and arrived back on September 14, 1923 on board the “Mauretania”.

(8) Marjorie E. (1913, New York)

(7) Amy L. (1880, Chelsea, Middlesex-Q1 1882, Wandsworth)

(6) Joseph Preeble (Q2 1857, Reigate, bp. 21 June 1857, Redhill) m,(Q1 1882, Reigate) Elizabeth Thrift (1850, Reigate-Q1 1901, Reigate) (m2) (Q4 1906, Reigate) In 1881 Joseph was a Tailor at 33 Ladbrooke Place, Reigate. A widow at Reigate in 1901 working as a Tailor and living at 3 West Street. Next door was his first wife’s mother, Mary Thrift (1816, Reigate). In 1881 Mary was a widow, working as a Green Grocer, and living on West Street, Reigate. She had two unmarried daughters living with her, Elizabeth (aged 31, Reigate) and Alice (aged 20, Reigate). Alice married Horace James S. Stevens (1855, Redhill). In 1901 they were living at Reigate, Horace was a Grocery Shop Keeper. In 1881 Horace was living with his mother, Mary Ann, on North Street, Reigate. He was a Grocer (he employed his younger brother, Jonathan)

(7) Charles Joseph (Q2 1883, Reigate) * Living with his father in 1901, working as a Grocer’s Assistant.

(7) Emily Ethel (1884, Reigate, bp. 26 April 1884, Redhill) m. (1902, Reigate) * Living with Grandmother, Mary Thrift at 4 West Street, Reigate.

(7) Joseph Ewert (Q3 1888, Reigate- Q4 1889, Reigate)

(7) Preeble George (Q4 1891, Reigate) * Living with his Grandmother Mary Thrift in 1901.

(4) Thomas (bp. 7 Jan 1776, East Langdon)

(4) John (bp. 23 Mar 1778, West Langdon) m.(13 Nov 1811, Ringwould) Mary Wilson

(5) George (bp. 25 Sept 1813, Sandwich-Q4 1874, Thanet) m.(4 July 1836, Ramsgate) Martha Read (1815-1856)(m.2) (1860) Jane Harman (1826, Hastings, Sussex-96) *After their marriage, George and Martha lived at 84 Hardnes Street, Ramsgate. In 1837 George negotiated the sale of his father’s property in St. Margaret’s to his uncle, Isaac Goldsack (130 Pounds). In 1841 they were at King Street, Ramsgate and George was working as a Mariner. In 1851 he was a Victualler at the Prince Coburg Inn, 37 King Street, Ramsgate. From 1851-1855 Mrs. Phoebe Read held the license for the Prince Coburg. Perhaps Mrs. Read was George’s mother-in-law. In 1865 George was still at the Prince Coburg. In 1875 his Will was proved at Canterbury by Edward Miles, Yeoman, Ramsgate and James Coveney of H.M. Customs, London (under 300 Pounds). In 1881 Jane was a Licensed Victualler (Prince Coburg) living at 72 King Street with her two sisters (Elizabeth (72) and Hannah (64), four children and two servants . On 4 May 1896 the Will of Jane Goldsack, 84 Hardnes Street, Ramsgate was proved in London by John Charles Goldsack, Auctioneer and James Goldsack, Licensed Victualler (935 Pounds).

(6) Amelia (1837, Ramsgate-29 May 1883) Unmarried. In 1851 Amelia was living at the Prince Coburg Inn, Ramsgate. She living with Step-mother, Jane in 1881 at 72 King Street. She was an Assistant Licensed Victualler. Her Will was proved by her only next of kin Frederick William on 10 Aug 1883 (about 100 Pounds).

(6) Phoebe Ann (1840) m. ? Read

(6) George Thomas (Q1 1846, Ramsgate-Q2 1874 Thanet) *From 1851-1865 he was living at the Prince Coburg Inn.

(6) Frederick William R. (1851) m.(Q4 1873, Thanet) Jane Strevens (1852, Sheerness) m2. Annie (1868, Walmer) ** On the 1881 census Jane (aged 29) is living in the house of Frederick R. Goldsack at 135 King Street, Ramsgate. She is listed as Wife of Butcher’s Assistant. Her relationship is listed as “Other”. Frederick R. is working as a Butcher’s Assistant. The children listed below were all born in Ramsgate and are the children of Frederick R. In 1901 Frederick (aged 49) is living at 1 Brompton Villa, Dundonald Road, Ramsgate. He was a Journeyman Butcher living with wife, Annie and daughter Alice.

(7) Robert Frederick (Q3 1875, Ramsgate) *In 1881 he was living with his Grandmother, Joyce Strevens at 128 King Street, Ramsgate. In 1891 he joined the Royal Navy.

(7) James William (1879) m.(Q2 1899, Thanet) Rhoda Alice Bicknell (1876, Bermondsley, London) In 1881 Rhoda was living with her parents John (1840, Whitechapel) and wife (1840, Northampton) at 12 Marigold Court, Bermondsley. John was a Blacksmith. * In 1901 James and Rhoda were living at 1 Bromley Road, Walthamstow, Essex. James was a Bricklayer

(7) George Richard (Q2 1881, Thanet) m. (Q3 1903, Dover)

(7) Jane Amelia (Q3 1884, Ramsgate) m.(Q3 1912, Thanet) ?? Church. On 1901 census working as a Domestic Servant

(7) Alice Maud (Q1 1888, Ramsgate) m. (Q4 1907, Thanet)

(6) John Charles. (1862, Ramsgate) m. Lily (Q2 1890, Canterbury) Lily (1863,St. Lawrence) * In 1881 and 1885 John was listed as an Assistant Teacher in an Elementary School. Living at Ramsgate working as an Auctioneer and Estate Agent 1896 and 1901(living at Llanbers, Grove Road, Ramsgate . In 1907 he was an Auctioneer and Jeweller. John was living at 5,Cecil-square, Margate in 1915. He was the trustee for the will of John Robert Clark (Tobacconist & Confectioner) In 1915 he was still an Auctioneer.On 21 June 1927 John was granted administration of the estate of Lily. He was living at 27 Grove Road. John was in partnership (Auctioneers,Valuers,House and Estate Agents, Surveyors, Accountants, Auditors, Public House Brokers ,and Secretaries of Public Companies) and the company was called Messrs. SCARLETT & GOLDSACK. The business was still operating on 29 Feb 1940 when at which time Henry Hadlow Stockley retired from the firm. John Walter Scarlett and Clement Stanley Scarlett continued on from that date under the same name.

(6) Henry (1863, Ramsgate-8 Feb 1885) In 1881 Henry was a Cabinet Maker living with his mother at 72 King Street, Ramsgate. He died in the house at 84 Hardnes Street. On 12 May 1885 administration of his personal estate was granted to his brother, John.

(6) James (Q4 1867, Ramsgate-1922) m. (Q2 1893, Ramsgate) Ellen Mary Morley m2. (25 Jan 1904, St.Lawrence) Ellen Mary Elson (1879, Ramsgate) * In 1896 and 1901 James was a Licensed Victualler living at 110 (Coach and Horses), High Street, Ramsgate. In 1901 he was a widow living with his 2 children and 2 servants – Ellen M. Elson (Cook) and Fanny Wright (Housemaid). In January 1904 when James married Ellen Elson he was a Grocer, living at 32 Chapel Road, St. Lawrence. In 1911 James was a Hotel Porter. In 1881 Ellen Morley was living with her parents, Richard and Ann Morely at the Balmoral Hotel, St. Peter’s, Kent. Richard was the Hotel Proprietor. In 1881 Ellen Elson was living with her parents William (1844, Ramsgate) and Elizabeth (1846, Ramsgate) at 6 Cross Road, St. Lawrence. William was a Journeyman Painter.

(7) Ellen Jane (1894, Ramsgate) m.(Q3 1912, Thanet) ? Whale

(7) Ethel Rosa A. (Q4 1896, Ramsgate) m. (Q4 1911, Thanet) ? Galloway

(7) Henry John William (17 July 1911, bp. 8 Sept 1911 - buried 11 Oct 1911) Aged 2 months. Address at time of death was 32 Chapel Road.

(7) Charles James ( buried 30 March 1914) Aged 6 months. Address at time of death was 32 Chapel Road.

(7) Albert Thomas William (1915, Ramsgate – 32 Chapel Road)

(7) Edith (buried 15 Aug 1921) Aged 19 months. Address at the time of death was 32 Chapel Road)

(5) George Wilson (1826, Freshwater, IOW-1905) m. Hannah (1831-1894) * George was a Master Mate (3,356)

(5) Sarah (1834) m. Richard Dixon

(5) Richard (Q1 1844, Eastry) m. (Q3 1873, Eastry) Annie

* Based on ages it would appear that these children could be grandchildren of John and Mary

(4) Richard (bp.21 Nov 1779, West Langdon- bur. 6 Mar 1867, Coldred) m. (6 Apr 1801, Whitfield) Susannah Banks (bur. 20 Dec 1843, Coldred) Witnesses Susanna Goldsack and Catherine Banks. *In 1841 Richard was an Agricultural Labourer at Nonington. In 1851 and 1861 Richard was at Coldred living with his daughter Hannah and her husband Thomas Files, still employed as an Agricultural Labourer.

(5) Peter (24 Dec 1803, bapt. 29 June 1804, St.Margaret’s-1866) m.(11 March 1826) Elizabeth Emery

(6) Sarah (1826, St. Margaret’s) m.(1843, Eastry) Richard Holiday

(6) John (bp. 30 March 1828, St. Margaret’s- 1851, Dover) * In 1851 John was an Engine Driver. There was a John (aged 23 years) who died in a fall at the Warden Hotel at Dover in 1851

(6) Richard (29 May 1830, Ewell-20 Dec 1898, Milton) m.(11 Sept 1858) Eliza Lott(1 Nov 1832, Eyethorne-1912) In 1881 Eliza was at Ewell & Lydden visiting John Baynton. Richard was at 34 George Street, Sittingbourne working as an Engine Driver at the Brickyard. In 1901 Eliza was still at Sittingbourne living on her own means.

(7) Eliza Ann (1859-1870)

(7) Frederick George (1860-1870)

(7) Edward Stephen (1862, River- 7 Apr 1935, Franklin Co., Ohio) m.(1890, Ohio) Frances S. Rutland (1870, Murston - 4 Jun 1922, Cleveland, Ohio) *In 1881 Edward was living with his parents at Sittingbourne. In 1881 Frances was living at 115 Murston Road, Murston with her parents Richard and Mary Rutland. Richard was a Brickfield Labourer. Edward immigrated to the US in 1890 and married there. In 1830 Edward was living with his daughter, Mary, in East Cleveland, Ohio. He was a widow and working as a Pattern Maker for Crane Co.

(8) Mary (28 Oct 1891, Ohio – Feb 1978, Ohio) m. (1912, Ohio) William A. Southam (1887, Ohio) *In 1920 Mary and William were living at 1851 Sheldon Street, East Cleveland. William was a Jewellery Merchant. He was the son of Thomas Southam (1841, England) and Sarah (1855, Germany). In 1920 Thomas was living in East Cleveland with his daughter, Susie and her husband Frank Littlejohn. Sarah was a Housekeeper. In 1930 William and Mary were living in East Cleveland, William was a Jeweller.

(8) Ernest Edward (16 Oct 1896,Willoughby, Ohio-4 March 1889, Cuyahoga, Cleveland, Ohio) m. Helen Shaw (23 May 1896, Ohio – 8 Jul 1988, Cuyahoga, Cleveland Ohio) Ernest enlisted in the Army in July 1918 and was Honourably discharged on 3 Jan 1919. In 1920 Ernest was living with his sister, Mary and her husband William Southam. Ernest was a Clerk in an Office. He later worked in the Jewellery Shop owned by his sister and her husband. Helen was a Teacher at Fancy Prairie, Illinois in 1920. She became a well respected local artist in later years.

(9) Nancy (1922)

(9) Marilyn (1926) Unmarried.

(7) Letty (1864, River-1939) m. William James Long (1862, Isle of Sheppey) * James was the son of James and Louisa Long (both born on Mersea, Essex). In 1881 James was living with his parents at 25 Bayford Road, Sittingbourne, James was a Barge Mate, his father was a Barge Master.In 1901 the family was at Sittingbourne. William was a Barge Master for the Brickyard. Children born at Sittingbourne:

(8) Letty Florence Long (11 Oct 1887) m.(1915) Harry Langtry Pittock (1890-1972)

(8) Percy William Long (20 Dec 1890-1970) m.(9 Aug 1940) Rita May Roberts (1892-1973)

(8) Sidney James Long (1892-1893)

(7) Charles James (1866-1875)

(7) Ernest Lott (1868, River-1889)

(7) Agnes Eliza (Q2 1871, Milton-1876)

(7) Ada (Q2 1873, Milton-Q3 1874, Milton)

(7) Rosa Emma (Q11875, Milton-1876)

(7) George Richard (1877, Sittingbourne-1957) m.(1 Aug 1899) Edith Mary Frame (1874, Stepney, London-1941) George and Edith were first cousins. In 1901 they were at Sittingbourne – George was working at the Brickyard as a Clerk.

(8) Edith Elsie (17 April 1902-6 Feb 1973) m.(26 Jan 1926) Gordon Llewelyn Griffiths (1888-1943) m(2) (25 Sept 1948) William Hubbard (1900-1967)

(13) Pauline Mary Llewelyn Griffiths (17 Feb 1928)

(6) Susannah (1832)

(6) George John (30 Dec 1834, Ewell-1904) m. Susannah (1837, River) * At River in 1881 – working as an Agricultural Labourer. They have daughter, Susannah living with them and two boarders – Emma Gibbon (age 7, Canterbury) and Susan Wichmann (age 5, Middlesex). In 1891 they were still at River. George was working as a Carter (by Horse). They have a niece, Emma Gibbons (age 16, born in Canterbury) living with them. ** Note: in 1881 his age is given as 45. In 1891 he is 55. In 1901 they are at River. George is 64 and working as a Yardman on a Farm. Susannah is listed as 63.

(7) Emily (1860)

(7) Susannah (1864, River)

(6) Edward (bp.14 May 1837)

(6) Harriet Martha (bp.8 Nov 1839)

(6) William (1840)

(6) Peter (15 May 1842, Ewell) m.(Q4 1866, Bridge) Mary A. Coleman (1844, Petham) *In 1881 they were at 19 Chantry Lane, Canterbury, St. Paul. Peter was working as an Agricultural Labourer. In 1901 Mary was at Canterbury, St. George the Martyr working as a House Keeper. No mention of Peter.

(7) Matilda Jane (Q2 1872, Canterbury) m. (Q4 1896, Thanet) Elias James Cook (1869, Margate) * Elias was the son of Henry and Sarah Cook, both born in Birchington. In 1901 Elias and Matilda were living at Birchington, Elias was a Master Mariner.

(7) Alice Edith (1874, Canterbury) m. (Q4 1898, Canterbury)

(7) Nellie (1876, Canterbury)

(7) Annie (1878, Canterbury)

(6) Paul Stephen (23 June 1844, Temple Ewell-1906) m.(1864) Ellen Kerr (1838, Fairford, Gloucester) Paul Stephen Goldsack (warrant number 553) joined the East Sussex Constabulary on 24 Jun 1879 and transferred to the Eastbourne Borough Constabulary on 5 Apl 1891. When he joined the Eastbourne force (warrant number 20) he was described as 45 years of age, cow-keeper, born at Ewell (near Dover) Kent, 5 feet 10 inches in height, blue eyes, grey hair, a fresh complexion and missing one thumb from the first joint. He was appointed initially as a third class inspector, and was promoted to the second class on 24 Oct 1892 and to the first class on 21 Apr 1893. On 20 Oct 1893 Paul asked for permission to resign 'on account of failing health'. (from Pauline Clifford) In 1871 Paul was a Dairyman living at 76 Charles Street, East London. In 1881 he was a Police Constable(E86) living at London House, Hailsham, Susssex. In 1901 there is no mention of Paul, but, Ellen is at Eastbourne, Sussex.

(7) Stephen Henry (17 Feb 1871, Stepney-1935) m.(1906) Lucy Lillian Carpenter (1876, Brighton)* In 1901 Stephen was at Eastbourne, Sussex working as a Wine Merchant’s Assistant. Lucy Carpenter was also at Eastbourne working as a Drapery Assistant. Stephen was living in the Maidstone area when he died.

(8) Lilian Helen (1910-1997) m. Reginald Hall (1913-1995) * Lived in Maidstone.

(7) Susan Elizabeth (1878, Brighton-1932) * At Eastbourne in 1901 working as a Dressmakers Assistant. Never married.

(6) Margaret Ann (5 April 1846, Temple Ewell -1933) m.(26 Dec 1872) Alexander Frame (1844, Wapping, Middlesex-1922) * In 1881 Margaret and Alexander were living at 10 Venour Road, Middlesex. Alexander was a Shopman for Fancy Goods. In 1899 Alexander was a Jeweller’s Assistant.

(7) Edith Mary Frame (1874, Stepney, Middlesex-1941) m.(1 Aug 1899) George Richard Goldsack (1877-1957)

(7) William Alexander Frame (1886- 1955) m. Laura Hall (1883-1942)

(5) Martha (22 Aug 1805, bp.21 Oct 1805, St. Margaret’s-1892, West Langdon) m. (8 April 1826, Whitfield) George Prescott

(5) Mary Anne (11 Oct 1807, St. Margaret’s) m. (19 Oct 1829, Whitfield) Samuel Wickens. One of the witnesses was Elizabeth Goldsack.

(5) Hannah (31 Mar 1809, bp.16 Apr 1809, St. Margaret’s) m.(14 Sept 1831) Thomas Files. Witnesses were Richard Files and Ann Goldsack *At Coldred in 1861. In 1851 and 1861 Hannah and Thomas were living at Coldred. IN 1871 they were listed as Strays of East Langdon at Coldred. In 1881 Hannah, a widow , was living with her son Richard at Coldred.

(6) Susannah Files (bp.11 May 1834) m. (29 Nov 1856, Dover, St. Mary) James Pearce

(6) Richard Files (bp. 9 Oct 1836, Whitfield) m. Hannah (1850, Whitfield) * In 1881 they were living at Newsole Cottage, Coldred, Richard was an Agricultural Labourer.

(7) John Files (1870, Northbourne)

(7) Thomas Files (1874, Northbourne)

(7) Richard Files (1876, Northbourne)

(7) Albert W. Files ( 1879, Coldred)

(6) Sarah Files (bp. 1 May 1839, Northbourne)

(6) John Files (1843, Whitfield) m. Emma (1850, Livingfield) *In 1881 they were living at Horton Cottage, Chartham, John was an Agricultural Labourer.

(7) Thomas H. Files (1875, Chartham)

(7) Ada Files (1877, Chartham)

(7) Annie Files (1879, Chartham)

(6) Thomas Files (bp. 26 March 1844, Coldred-Q4 1851, Dover)

(6) Elizabeth Files (bp. 7 April 1846, Coldred)

(6) Harriet Files (bp. 2 Oct 1850, Coldred)

(5) Susan (3 Sept 1811, bapt. 5 Oct 1811, St. Margaret’s) m. (Q4 1840, Dover) William Mills

(5) Elizabeth (bp.5 July 1813, St. Margaret’s-1898) m. (14 Oct 1837, Eythorne) William Fakely (1816, Alkham-Q1 1900, Dover). In 1881 they were living at Alkham, William was a Waggoner. Richard Beer (1813, Alkham) and Alfred Fagg (1862, Alkham) were boarding with them.

(6) Mary Fakely (1840, Alkham -1909) m. Edward Champion (1831, Alkham-1910) * In 1881 They were living in Alkham, Edward was a Farm Labourer. In 1901 they were still at Alkham, Edward was an Agricultural Labourer.

(7) Richard Edward Champion (Q1 1868, Alkham) *In 1901 Edward was a Porter at a Workhouse in Penge.

(7) Elizabeth Champion (Q1 1870, Alkham) m. (Q4 1900, Dover) George Standford (1861, Hawkinge) *In 1901 They were living at Hawkinge, George was a Yardman on a Farm.

(7) George Champion (Q2 1872 Alkham) *In 1901 George was a Night Watchman at Newington.

(7) Susanna Champion (1874, Alkham) m. (Q4 1895, Elham) Frederick Marsh (1872, Swingfield) *In 1901 they were living at Hawkinge, Fred was a Waggoner on a Farm.

(7) Frances Champion (1878, Alkham) m. (Q4 1898, Dover) Albert Deal (1875, Barham) *In 1901 they were living at Dover, Albert was working as a General Labourer.

(8) Reginald Deal (1899, Dover)

(8) Percival Deal (1901, Dover) * 2 months old on census day.

(7) Henry Champion (1883, Alkham) * Living with parents in 1901, working as an Agricultural Labourer.

(6) William Fakely (1842-1843)

(6) William Fakely (1845-1847)

(6) John Fakely (1852-1867)

(6) Sarah Anne Fakely (1854) m. (Q2 1879, Dover)

(6) Susannah Fakely (1856) *In 1881 Susannah was working as a Domestic Cook for Barrister, John Clerk at Rolleston Hall, Billesdon-Rolleston, Leicester.

(5) Ann (bp. 12 Nov 1815, St. Margaret’s – died Q1 1912, Eastry) * There was an Ann Goldsack (1817, St. Margaret’s) living with her cousin Sarah Coveney (1828, St. Margaret’s). Sarah was a Needlewoman and Ann was an Unemployed Domestic Cook. There was an Ann Goldsack, aged 74, living at Coldred in 1901.

(5) Thomas (bp. 8 Feb 1818, Whitfield) m. (Q4 1842, Eastry) * Not found on the 1881 census

(5) George (bp. 9 July 1820, Whitfield)

(5) Sarah (bp. 27 Apr 1823, Whitfield-died 1904) Unmarried.

(4) Susannah (1780 – Q2 1844, Bridge) m. (1805) Charles Hopkins

(5) Charles Hopkins (1805, Tilmanstone- Q1 1893, Blean) m (Q4 1841, Bridge) *In 1881 Charles was a widow, living with his son Thomas. He was a Gardener (occupying 3 quarters of an acre).

(7) Edith J. Hopkins (1870, Whitstable) * In 1901Edith was a Dressmaker at Blean.

(7) Charles T. Hopkins (1871, Whitstable)

(7) William Henry Hopkins (Q3 1873, Whitstable)

(7) George Richard Hopkins (Q2 1875, Whitstable) * In 1901 George was General Carter at Blean.

(7) Alice Mary Hopkins (Q4 1876, Whitstable)

(7) Emily G. Hopkins (1879, Whitstable)

(7) Frederick J. Hopkins (1880, Whitstable)

(7) Ellen Hopkins (1883, Whitstable) * In 1901 Ellen was a Dressmaker at Blean.

(7) Kate Hopkins (1885, Whitstable)

(7) Lilian Hopkins (1889, Blean)

(7) Minnie Hopkins (1873, Whitstable) * A General Domestic at Whitstable in 1901

(7) Frances Hopkins ( Q2 1877, Whitstable) m. (Q1 1899, Eastry) William Thomas Betts * In 1901 Frances was living at Whitstable.

(7) Emily Hopkins (Q4 1880, Whitstable) *4 months old on census day. In 1901 Emily was a Teacher at Margate.

(8) Annie Hopkins (1870, Elmstead)

(8) Minnie Hopkins (1872, Elmstead)

(8) Frank Hopkins (1873, Chilham) * At Sheldwhich in 1901 working as a Wood Miller

(8) Frederick Hopkins (1878, Chilham) * At Sheldwich in 1901

(8) John Hopkins (1880, Chilham) *3 months old on census day.

(8) Daisy Hopkins (1883, Chilham)

(8) Lucy Hopkins (1885, Chilham)

(7) Charles Hopkins (1848, Staple, bp. 19 Mar 1848)

(7) Matilda Hopkins (1851, Staple)

(8) Sydney Hopkins (1883, St. Lawrence) * A Carpenter in 1901, at St. Lawrence.

(8) Alfred Hopkins (1885, St. Lawrence) * A Printer’s Apprentice in 1901, at St. Lawrence.

(8) Daisy Hopkins (1886, St. Lawrence) * A Pupil Teacher in 1901, at St. Lawrence.

(8) Henry Hopkins (1874, Sandwich)

(8) Ellen Hopkins (1876, Sandwich)

(8) Walter Hopkins (1879, Sandwich)

(8) Charles Hopkins (1880, Sandwich) *3 months old on census day. Working as an Agricultural Labourer at Littlebourne in 1901.

(8) Jane Hopkins (1883, Sandwich) * At Littlebourne in 1901

(8) William Hopkins (1884, Littlebourne) * At Littlebourne in 1901 – Agricultural Labourer

(8) Edith Hopkins (1889, Littlebourne)

(8) James Hopkins (1890, Littlebourne)

(8) Sidney Hopkins (1893, Littlebourne)

(6) Charlotte Fanny Hopkins (1858, Staple)

(3) Susannah Goldsack was born at St. Margaret’s in 1737 and married Thomas Young there on 31 Oct 1761 at St. Margaret, St. Margaret’s at Cliffe. Their daughter, Ann Young married Henry Goldsack on 18 November 1780 at St. Margaret’s, bringing together the two Goldsack Lines back to Peter Goldsack and Jane Pepper. Witnesses to the marriage were William Rolfe and Henry Bowls.

These may be the children of Susannah and Thomas Young:

Ann Young (1761-1831)

Henry Young (bp. 21 May 1769, Guston-bur. 23 Nov 1770, Guston)

Susannah Young (bp. 28 Feb 1773, Guston-bur. 20 Mar 1774, Guston)

John Young (bp. 8 Sept 1775, Guston)

Richard Young (bp. 8 Sept 1775, Guston-bur. 20 Oct 1775, Guston)

Henry Young (bp. 12 July 1778, Guston)

Email: Larry Goldsack

Pam_goldsack@telus.net