Some thoughts about the War!

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The enclosed text is from a speech in Congress by Barbara Lee, the lone voice and lone vote against a bill giving carte blanche to Mr Bush to plan and carry out retaliation for last week's attacks.

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Mr. Speaker, I rise today with a heavy heart, one that is filled with sorrow for the families and loved ones who were killed and injured in New York, Virginia, and Pennsylvania. Only the most foolish or the most callous would not understand the grief that has gripped the American people and millions across the world.

This unspeakable attack on the United States has forced me to rely on my moral compass, my conscience, and my God for direction. September 11 changed the world. Our deepest fears now haunt us. Yet I am convinced that military action will not prevent further acts of international terrorism against the United States.

I know that this use-of-force resolution will pass although we all know that the President can wage a war even without this resolution. However difficult this vote may be, some of us must urge the use of restraint. There must be some of us who say, let's step back for a moment and think through the implications of our actions today -- let us more fully understand its consequences.

We are not dealing with a conventional war. We cannot respond in a conventional manner. I do not want to see this spiral out of control. This crisis involves issues of national security, foreign policy, public safety, intelligence gathering, economics, and murder. Our response must be equally multifaceted.

We must not rush to judgment. Far too many innocent people have already died. Our country is in mourning. If we rush to launch a counterattack, we run too great a risk that women, children, and other noncombatants will be caught in the crossfire.

Nor can we let our justified anger over these outrageous acts by vicious murderers inflame prejudice against all Arab Americans, Muslims, Southeast Asians, or any other people because of their race, religion, or ethnicity.

Finally, we must be careful not to embark on an open-ended war with neither an exit strategy nor a focused target. We cannot repeat past mistakes.

In 1964, Congress gave President Lyndon Johnson the power to "take all necessary measures" to repel attacks and prevent further aggression. In so doing, this House abandoned its own constitutional responsibilities and launched our country into years of undeclared war in Vietnam.

At that time, Sen. Wayne Morse, one of two lonely votes against the Tonkin Gulf Resolution, declared, "I believe that history will record that we have made a grave mistake in subverting and circumventing the Constitution of the United States ... I believe that within the next century, future generations will look with dismay and great disappointment upon a Congress which is now about to make such a historic mistake."

Sen. Morse was correct, and I fear we make the same mistake today. And I fear the consequences.

I have agonized over this vote. But I came to grips with it in the very painful yet beautiful memorial service today at the National Cathedral. As a member of the clergy so eloquently said, "As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore."

SEVENTEEN TECHNIQUES FOR TRUTH SUPPRESSION By David Martin ("D.C. Dave") Strong, credible allegations of high-level criminal activity can bring down a government. When the government lacks an effective, fact-based defense, other techniques must be employed. The success of these techniques depends heavily upon a cooperative, compliant press and a mere token opposition party.

1. Dummy up. If it's not reported, if it's not news, it didn't happen.

2. Wax indignant. This is also known as the "How dare you?" gambit.

3. Characterize the charges as "rumors" or, better yet, "wild rumors." If, in spite of the news blackout, the public is still able to learn about the suspicious facts, it can only be through "rumors." (If they tend to believe the "rumors" it must be because they are simply "paranoid" or "hysterical.")

4. Knock down straw men. Deal only with the weakest aspects of the weakest charges. Even better, create your own straw men. Make up wild rumors (or plant false stories) and give them lead play when you appear to debunk all the charges, real and fanciful alike.

5. Call the skeptics names like "conspiracy theorist," "nutcase," "ranter," "kook," "crackpot," and, of course, "rumor monger." Be sure, too, to use heavily loaded verbs and adjectives when characterizing their charges and defending the "more reasonable" government and its defenders. You must then carefully avoid fair and open debate with any of the people you have thus maligned. For insurance, set up your own "skeptics" to shoot down.

6. Impugn motives. Attempt to marginalize the critics by suggesting strongly that they are not really interested in the truth but are simply pursuing a partisan political agenda or are out to make money (compared to over-compensated adherents to the government line who, presumably, are not).

7. Invoke authority. Here the controlled press and the sham opposition can be very useful.

8. Dismiss the charges as "old news."

9. Come half-clean. This is also known as "confession and avoidance" or "taking the limited hangout route." This way, you create the impression of candor and honesty while you admit only to relatively harmless, less-than-criminal "mistakes." This stratagem often requires the embrace of a fall-back position quite different from the one originally taken. With effective damage control, the fall-back position need only be peddled by stooge skeptics to carefully limited markets.

10. Characterize the crimes as impossibly complex and the truth as ultimately unknowable.

11. Reason backward, using the deductive method with a vengeance. With thoroughly rigorous deduction, troublesome evidence is irrelevant. E.g. We have a completely free press. If evidence exists that the Vince Foster "suicide" note was forged, they would have reported it. They haven't reported it so there is no such evidence. Another variation on this theme involves the likelihood of a conspiracy leaker and a press who would report the leak.

12. Require the skeptics to solve the crime completely. E.g. If Foster was murdered, who did it and why?

13. Change the subject. This technique includes creating and/or publicizing distractions.

14. Lightly report incriminating facts, and then make nothing of them. This is sometimes referred to as "bump and run" reporting.

15. Baldly and brazenly lie. A favorite way of doing this is to attribute the "facts" furnished the public to a plausible-sounding, but anonymous, source.

16. Expanding further on numbers 4 and 5, have your own stooges "expose" scandals and champion popular causes. Their job is to pre-empt real opponents and to play 99-yard football. A variation is to pay rich people for the job who will pretend to spend their own money.

17. Flood the Internet with agents. This is the answer to the question, "What could possibly motivate a person to spend hour upon hour on Internet news groups defending the government and/or the press and harassing genuine critics?" Don t the authorities have defenders enough in all the newspapers, magazines, radio, and television? One would think refusing to print critical letters and screening out serious callers or dumping them from radio talk shows would be control enough, but, obviously, it is not.

Hi All, Apart from being flamed by the John Waynes, I have been accused of being condescending towards Americans. Maybe this is the only opinion of the ignorant, who can only wave the Stars and Stripes. Right now it is vitally important for all Americans have to "know the enemy". This is because, if you do not know about them, then defeat is inevitable.

George Bush mentioned the word "crusade", and that was a big mistake. All of Islam instantly thought back to the year 1095AD. It was then that Pope Urban II, said that crusaders would go straight to heaven, if they fought the Moslems.

This is very similar to those 19 Saudi Arabian hijackers, who were also given promises by the Imams. All of them genuinely thought, that they would be given the "Keys to Heaven" by Gabriel. This is because, any Moslem who dies in a holy war against the infidel, has a guaranteed place in Heaven.

With that particular key, Allah automatically gives you a special luxury suite in the Islamic Hilton. There, the hijackers are at present are being given the services of 72 virgins - and that is enough to make us all want to become Moslems isn't it? The Moslems have a much better heaven than Christians - but sadly it is not so wonderful for women.

So know your enemy, because only then you will discover their weaknesses. Also do not make the mistake of invading Afghanistan in big numbers, as that will result in a terrible fate. Any American flyer who is shot down, will not be treated with respect. The Afghans have a way of making captured soldiers die slowly - and it is the women who do it.

Anyway, 100 years ago the British invaded Afghanistan from the Kyber Pass - and 10,000 soldiers were lost. A little over 20 years ago the USSR tried to do the same thing - but from the north, and the Russians lost 15.000.

So know you enemy, because if you do not then they will destroy you.

Yours in Light & Truth Peter (Froude) Bournemouth England

From: Dr. Tony Kern, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)

Recently, I was asked to look at the recent events through the lens of military history. I have joined the cast of thousands who have written an "open letter to Americans."

Dear friends and fellow Americans 14 September, 2001

Like everyone else in this great country, I am reeling from last week's attack on our sovereignty. But unlike some, I am not reeling from surprise. As a career soldier and a student and teacher of military history, I have a different perspective and I think you should hear it. This war will be won or lost by the American citizens, not diplomats, politicians or soldiers.

Let me briefly explain.

In spite of what the media, and even our own government is telling us, this act was not committed by a group of mentally deranged fanatics. To dismiss them as such would be among the gravest of mistakes. This attack was committed by a ferocious, intelligent and dedicated adversary. Don't take this the wrong way. I don't admire these men and I deplore their tactics, but I respect their capabilities. The many parallels that have been made with the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor are apropos. Not only because it was a brilliant sneak attack against a complacent America, but also because we may well be pulling our new adversaries out of caves 30 years after we think this war is over, just like my father's generation had to do with the formidable Japanese in the years following WW II.

These men hate the United States with all of their being, and we must not underestimate the power of their moral commitment. Napoleon, perhaps the world's greatest combination of soldier and statesman, stated "the moral is to the physical as three is to one." Patton thought the Frenchman underestimated its importance and said moral conviction was five times more important in battle than physical strength. Our enemies are willing - better said anxious -- to give their lives for their cause.

How committed are we America? And for how long?

In addition to demonstrating great moral conviction, the recent attack demonstrated a mastery of some of the basic fundamentals of warfare taught to most military officers worldwide, namely simplicity, security and surprise. When I first heard rumors that some of these men may have been trained at our own Air War College, it made perfect sense to me. This was not a random act of violence, and we can expect the same sort of military competence to be displayed in the battle to come.

This war will escalate, with a good portion of it happening right here in the good ol' U.S. of A.

These men will not go easily into the night. They do not fear us. We must not fear them. In spite of our overwhelming conventional strength as the world's only "superpower" (a truly silly term), we are the underdog in this fight. As you listen to the carefully scripted rhetoric designed to prepare us for the march for war, please realize that America is not equipped or seriously trained for the battle ahead. To be certain, our soldiers are much better than the enemy, and we have some excellent "counter-terrorist" organizations, but they are mostly trained for hostage rescues, airfield seizures, or the occasional "body snatch," (which may come in handy). We will be fighting a war of annihilation, because if their early efforts are any indication, our enemy is ready and willing to die to the last man. Eradicating the enemy will be costly and time consuming. They have already deployed their forces in as many as 20 countries, and are likely living the lives of everyday citizens. Simply put, our soldiers will be tasked with a search and destroy mission on multiple foreign landscapes, and the public must be patient and supportive until the strategy and tactics can be worked out.

For the most part, our military is still in the process of redefining itself and presided over by men and women who grew up with - and were promoted because they excelled in - Cold War doctrine, strategy and tactics. This will not be linear warfare, there will be no clear "centers of gravity" to strike with high technology weapons. Our vast technological edge will certainly be helpful, but it will not be decisive. Perhaps the perfect metaphor for the coming battle was introduced by the terrorists themselves aboard the hijacked aircraft -- this will be a knife fight, and it will be won or lost by the ingenuity and will of citizens and soldiers, not by software or smart bombs. We must also be patient with our military leaders.

Unlike Americans who are eager to put this messy time behind us, our adversaries have time on their side, and they will use it. They plan to fight a battle of attrition, hoping to drag the battle out until the American public loses its will to fight. This might be difficult to believe in this euphoric time of flag waving and patriotism, but it is generally acknowledged that America lacks the stomach for a long fight. We need only look as far back as Vietnam, when North Vietnamese General Vo Nguyen Giap, (also a military history teacher) defeated the United States of America without ever winning a major tactical battle. American soldiers who marched to war cheered on by flag waving Americans in 1965 were reviled and spat upon less than three years later when they returned. Although we hope that Usama Bin Laden is no Giap, he is certain to understand and employ the concept. We can expect not only large doses of pain like the recent attacks, but also less audacious "sand in the gears" tactics, ranging from livestock infestations to attacks at water supplies and power distribution facilities.

These attacks are designed to hit us in our "comfort zone" forcing the average American to "pay more and play less" and eventually eroding our resolve. But it can only work if we let it. It is clear to me that the will of the American citizenry - you and I - is the center of gravity the enemy has targeted. It will be the fulcrum upon which victory or defeat will turn. He believes us to be soft, impatient, and self-centered. He may be right, but if so, we must change. The Prussian general Carl von Clausewitz, (the most often quoted and least read military theorist in history), says that there is a "remarkable trinity of war" that is composed of (1) the will of the people, (2) the political leadership of the government, and (3) the chance and probability that plays out on the field of battle, in that order. Every American citizen was in the crosshairs of last Tuesday's attack, not just those that were unfortunate enough to be in the World Trade Center or Pentagon. The will of the American people will decide this war. If we are to win, it will be because we have what it takes to persevere through a few more hits, learn from our mistakes, improvise, and adapt. If we can do that, we will eventually prevail.

Everyone I've talked to in the past few days has shared a common frustration, saying in one form or another "I just wish I could do something!" You are already doing it. Just keep faith in America, and continue to support your President and military, and the outcome is certain.

If we fail to do so, the outcome is equally certain.

God Bless America

Dr. Tony Kern, Lt Col, USAF (Ret) Former Director of Military History, USAF Academy

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Reply to Dr. Kern :

USA " citizens " are under the Federal Jurisdiction of the District of Columbia a corporate body or fiction also referred to as United States Government Inc. part of the New World Order presently being ushered in by the United Nations. The UN has a wreath on its flag which represents Ceasar's crown or the Roman Empire which was governed by Maritime ( Naval or war or Contract or Roman ) Law. This empire operated under the hive collective like the borgs the Zetas and Orion empires originally were, ruled by a Queen. Much like the B'rith Ish ( British ) Empire of today. I have never heard of London, Britain , have you ? No, it is London , England ! B'rith Ish is Hebrew for contracted man or covenant of man. Did you see the Us flag hanging vertically behind George W. last night ? That means the law it represents has been suspended ! You are military historian right ? Well look up some military law and quit spouting verbage. Rome had citizens too, maybe it is still around ? It is all about contract, and is only exerciseable at an individual level so no one can do it for you. It being exercising your sovereignty! Do you know what a USC Title four flag is? Check out www.dwmlawprocedures.com to get knowledge. On current affairs, some reading at www.societyserver.com can enlighten any interested party. Pay close attention to the language used language spoken by leaders. Most are Jesuit ( CIA )trained in doublespeak. They , collectively have to receive your permission otherwise the universal law of cause and effect will come back to bite the instigator on the butt. They trick naieve people into doing these dreadful deads in the cause of ficticious reasons like faith, hope and belief which have zero effect from a language perspective. Look them up in a Black's Law dictionary ? They are on par with suspicion and try and attempt. Nuff said.



I often compare the Magna Carta as the only living relative to the American Constitution in the 18th Century. As I understand it the Magna Carta effective guaranteed the rights of aristocratic landowners against the monarch. The Magna Carta did not address vassals as citizens nor guarantee human rights. "The Magna Carta was a completely reactionary, not a progressive, document-that it was merely a guarantee of feudal rights."

The Iroquois League of Nations' Constitution was used as a model for the American Constitution which guaranteed human rights to citizens, and the Iroquois League had been in place for several hundred years when Euro-Americans used it to form their own union. In fact, Native Americans first suggested to the colonists that they organize in order to more effectively deal with the native people.

Here's a link to a site with the actual text of the Magna Carta and a brief history of its revisions.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/articles/07862.html

Magna Carta

Revisions and Reinterpretations As an actual instrument of government the charter was, at first, a failure. The clumsy machinery set up to prevent the king's violation of the charter never had an opportunity to function, and civil war broke out the same year. On John's death in 1216, the charter was reissued in the name of young King Henry III, but with a number of significant omissions relative to safeguards of national liberties and restrictions on taxation. It was reissued with further changes in 1217 and again in 1225, the latter reissue being the one that was incorporated into British statute law.

In later centuries it became a symbol of the supremacy of the constitution over the king, as opponents of arbitrary royal power extracted from it various democratic interpretations. This movement reached its height in the 17th cent. in the work of such apologists for Parliament as Sir Edward Coke. It came to be thought that the charter forbade taxation without representation, that it guaranteed trial by jury, even that it invested the House of Commons (nonexistent in 1215) with great powers. These ideas persisted until the 19th cent., when certain scholars came to maintain that the Magna Carta was a completely reactionary, not a progressive, document-that it was merely a guarantee of feudal rights. It is generally recognized now, however, that the charter definitely did show the viability of opposition to excessive use of royal power and that this constitutes its chief significance.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Riun" To: "lakeview" Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 9:14 AM Subject: [UFOnet] Frits, this is related to B'rith Ish subjects. DGW.

> ~1

> "Magna Charta(1215, 1216, 1217, & 1225)"

> > What were we told that the Magna Charta was? > That it was "A Proclamation"? > That it was "An Act to Grant us Freedoms"? > "A Proclamations, Granting Us, Rights and Freedoms/Liberties"? > Under which all British Subjects received their "Rights and Liberties"?

> > So lets explore the meaning of the word, "Proclamation"?

> > Pro = before, for, forth, forward > (~1, The Executive's Desk Book, 1952)

> > Clam = covertly; secretly. (~2, In the civil law Black's 1st, 1891)

> > A = away, from(~1); not

> > Tion = act of; state of being; result or product of an act. (~1)

> > Could this word possibly mean what these definitions are indicating?

> > a) Before, covertly, away, an act? > b) For, secretly, from, state of being? > (~3, covert = covered over, hid, sheltered, under authority) > (~3, secretly = in a secret manner) > a) Before covertly away act! > Before covered over away act > Before "hiding" away act > b) For a secret manner from(take) state of being? > > So, the words may have a different meaning? Yes or No?

> > > So lets explore the "Magna Charta"!

> > Magna = great/grand(~2)

> > Charta = a charter or deed; an instrument written and sealed; the formal evidence of conveyances and contract.(~2) > Great-charter, Great-deed, Great-conveyance, Great-contract, > So, Great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > So what is a Charter? > Charter, n. = 1) an instrument emanating from the sovereign power, in the nature of a grant, either to the whole nation, or to a class or portion of the people, ot to a colony or dependency, and assuring to them certain rights, liberties, or powers. > 2) an act of the legislative department of government, creating a corporation, is called the "charter" of the corporation. > 3) the term denoted a deed or other written instrument under seal; a conveyance, covenant, or contract. > 4) A disposition made by a superior to his vassal, for something to be performed or paid by him. > 5) A writing which contains the grant or transmission of the feudal right to the vassal.(~2)

> > So, what do the words Magna Charta mean to you now? > A Great-Charter, a great-deed/title, the great title, ( the great title to all British subjects making them all feudal-tenants), a writing which contains the transmission of a feudal right to the vassal/slave?

> > So, all other statutes(British/Canadian/American) would be from the Proclamor to their feudal-tenants!

> > Pro = before/for; Proclamor = for the clamor > Clamor, 1) in old English Law, a claim(~2); > 2) in the civil law, a claimant; a debt; anything claimed by another; A PROCLAMATION; an accusation.(~2)

> >

Please forward this to everyone you know. I hope you agree that the message is very clear and must be understood by every citizen of this country.

God Bless America

Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 21:33:31 PST Subject: Thinking could be dangerous to your health... From: novaone@juno.com (Ed W Mason)

Some See 'Ghost' of Towers at Night

By Mae M. Cheng

STAFF WRITER

September 23, 2001

For many New Yorkers, the Twin Towers are legendary. But for some, there is now talk about the buildings, the kind that sometimes spurs urban legends. Some residents of the Lower East Side, who for decades have had an unobstructed view of the majestic 110-story towers simply by glancing down East Broadway or Madison Street, say they see the outlines of the two destroyed buildings.

"It was amazing," said Mike Atta, who works at a grocery store at Rutgers and Madison streets. "It was a light, a straight light going up into the sky. It actually looked like the Twin Towers."

Atta said many people have stood outside his store on evenings to admire the "ghost" and have spoken to him about it. "Some people say it's just a light," Atta said. "Some people say it's an amazing thing."

Whether it's a light that rescue workers are using to illuminate Ground Zero as they dig for survivors or an inexplicable phenomenon, people say they do not fear what they see.

"I wasn't spooked," said Angela Wu, a volunteer with the nonprofit, community-based Lower Manhattan Residents Relief Coalition, which is helping Lower East Side residents through the aftermath of the World Trade Center attack. "It was sort of a heavy experience."

B.J. Crown, a Red Cross disaster mental health expert, said many things could account for what people see. It could be a light rescue workers are using. But it could also be an image in people's minds that offers them a way to deal with the grief associated with the attacks. "These things are normal reactions to abnormal situations," Crown said. "I would think it would be sort of comforting for them." Crown explained that if it is an image in people's minds, it is not unlike what victims of lost limbs deal with, initially believing that they can still feel their lost arm or leg. She cautions that if it is an image and people keep seeing it for months to come, they should talk to a mental health expert.

The towers "were the most beautiful thing you could see from here," said Carlos Torres, 28, a lifelong resident of the Lower East Side. Torres said he also saw the faint image of the towers one recent night when his boss pointed it out to him. "Scared? Why?" Torres asked. "It's a thing of God."

Copyright 2001, Newsday, Inc.

Peter: I'm an American, and I agree with you even if only one legislator voted in our favor. Nobody has ever claimed that Homo sapien was a morally courageous creature. Homo sapien just gets a bigger brain and a smaller stomach. Morally courageous people are generally appreciated by future generations who benefit from their work. Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg address was a 5 minute speech in contrast to a 2 hour speech delivered by popular speaker Edward Everett. Everett's speech was given front-page coverage while Lincoln's was relegated to a place inside the newspaper. The children of the children who benefitted from Lincoln's hard work gave his speech mourning the terrible deaths at Gettysburg a place in history.

When I pointed out that much newly patriotic testimony could probably be accounted for by fear for personal safety, someone responded that she had three sons and didn't want to see them killed. How going to war would keep her sons safe wasn't clear in the response, unless her sons were young and she wanted other people to go to war before her sons had to fight. The respondent apparently never considered that sending someone else to do battle for your personal safety in order to keep your own family secure was less than courageous. I found the unhesitating support of war to keep her three sons safe an interesting logic and morality.

Regards, Krsanna Duran

I wrote that I have 3 sons and did not want them to go to war because I don`t want a war! My boys are 29, 22, and 20. A perfect age for drafting don`t you think. Reread what I posted if you didn`t understand it the first time, then quote me. Where did you get an unhesitating support of war in my post? We will never agree on this WTC issue, nor do we need to. But, we should make an honest attempt at getting our facts straight. :)

Vera

Also, I`m just curious as to what were bin Laden`s flunkies doing nosing around in Las Vegas (I live there) prior to the WTC tradgedy? I don`t think they were looking for the heaven with 72 virgins! If so they were looking in the wrong city!

Thinker's Anonymous

It started out innocently enough. I began to think at parties now and then to loosen up. Inevitably though, one thought led to another, and soon I was more than just a social thinker.

I began to think alone - "to relax," I told myself - but I knew it wasn't true. Thinking became more and more important to me, and finally I was thinking all the time.

I began to think on the job. I knew that thinking and employment don't mix, but I couldn't stop myself.

I began to avoid friends at lunchtime so I could read Thoreau and Kafka. I would return to the office dizzied and confused, asking, "What is it exactly we are doing here?"

Things weren't going so great at home either. One evening I had turned off the TV and asked my wife about the meaning of life. She spent that night at her mother's.

I soon had a reputation as a heavy thinker. One day the boss called me in. He said, "Skippy, I like you, and it hurts me to say this, but your thinking has become a real problem. If you don't stop thinking on the job, you'll have to find another job." This gave me a lot to think about.

I came home early after my conversation with the boss. "Honey," I confessed, "I've been thinking..."

"I know you've been thinking," she said, "and I want a divorce!"

"But Honey, surely it's not that serious." "It is serious," she said, lower lip aquiver. "You think as much as college professors, and college professors don't make any money, so if you keep on thinking we won't have any money!"

"That's a faulty syllogism," I said impatiently, and she began to cry.

I'd had enough. "I'm going to the library," I snarled as I stomped out the door.

I headed for the library, in the mood for some Nietzsche, with a PBS station on the radio. I roared into the parking lot and ran up to the big glass doors... they didn't open. The library was closed.

To this day, I believe that a Higher Power was looking out for me that night.

As I sank to the ground clawing at the unfeeling glass, whimpering for Zarathustra, a poster caught my eye. "Friend, is heavy thinking ruining your life?" it asked. You probably recognize that line. It comes from the standard Thinker's Anonymous poster.

Which is why I am what I am today: a recovering thinker. I never miss a TA meeting. At each meeting we watch a non-educational video; last week it was "Porky's." Then we share experiences about how we avoided thinking since the last meeting.

I still have my job, and things are a lot better at home. Life just seemed... easier, somehow, as soon as I stopped thinking.

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