Salam to all muslims! I
hope readers of this article can be open mind and except ayats of quran and
hadiths of prophet(PBUH) about this topic. Many wahabis and other sects are trying
to say that Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) is not a mercy of Allah for universe today
he is finish.(astagfurAllah). Actually they insulte prophet (Pbuh) and Allah.
But majority of people only follow, what a blind mulla say in his speech. They
never ask him questions or show other ayats and ahadith on this issue.But I
talked with a wahabi friend of me. I want to share our debate with you.
First question from my
wahabi friend:
Asking help from others
is shirk. You must always ask Allah for help . This is written in quran . Why
do you say ya Ali or ya Rasool Allah madad?
Answer:
So
you claim that asking for help to other than God is polytheism. You should never go to doctor. because this
is polytheism (shirk)! Their going to doctor is a type of seeking a help from a
specialist. Even though they do not say by their tongue that they are getting
help from the doctor.
Question:
no
we say that asking help in normal life is not haram. But asking help in
difficul situations is haram! All sunah muslims agree on this. Why are you
making this new aqida?
Answer:
Your aqida is not from 6666 ayats in quran. But
against quran and sunnah. All muslims belive on wasila of prophet but not
wahabis , deo bandis and some tablighi mullas and etc.
Quran say(Quran 28:15):
"And he (Moses) went into the city at a time when people (of
the city) were not watching, so he
found therein two men fighting, one being of his freind and the other being his
enemy, and the one who was of his friends creid out to him for help against on who was his enemy.
Now we shall look at what sunnis belive about wasila.
Hazrat Abdul Haq Muhadith Delhwi (radi Allahu anhu)
writes the following:
According to the Ijma of the Ulema, to use
the Wasila of the Holy Prophet"(sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) to gain
assistance both with verbally or physically is said to be confirmed to be
desirable." (Jazbul Quloob)
Question:
But saudi kingdom do not allow any kind of shirk. Even kissing walls and etc in
madina is not allowed too! Islam comes from saudia kingdom , why do not you
follow saudia aqida?
Answer:
we have our islam from quran and hadiths narreted from Ahlulbayt ( house of
Muhammed pbuh) and not from any king or saudis. Who are pure and clean for all
unclean ( sins and etc also). Saudia is with wahabis just because of politics.
Now I will tell you a story of one of saudi king with a shia scholar. Sayyid
Sharafuddin, a famous Shia scholar, went on pilgrimage to the House of Allah
during the reign of King Abdul Aziz Ibn Saud. He was one of those who were
invited to the King's palace to celebrate the Eid of al- Adh'ha. When his turn
came to shake the King's hand, he presented a leather bound Quran to the King.
The King took the Quran and placed it on his forehead and then kissed it. Sayyid
Sharafuddin said: "O' King! why do you kiss and glorify the cover which is
made of a goat's skin?!" The king answered: "I meant to glorify the
Holy Quran, not the goat's skin." Sayyid Sharafuddin said: "Well said
O' King! We do the same when we kiss the window or the door of the Prophet's
Chamber, we know that it is made of iron, and could not harm or render a
benefit, but we mean what is behind the iron and wood, we mean to respect the
Messenger of Allah in the same way as you meant with the Quran when you kissed
its goat's skin cover." The audience was impressed by his speech and said:
"You are right." The King was forced to allow the pilgrims to ask for
blessings from the Prophet's relics, until the order was reversed by the
successor of that, until the order was reversed by the successor of that King.
The issue is not that they are afraid of people associating others with Allah,
rather, it is a political issue based on antagonizing Muslims in order to
consolidate their own power and authority over Muslims, and history is the
witness to what they have done.
Question:
Why
you say ya Ali madad when asking help from Ali and Muhamed (pbuh)? It is wrong because they are dead. They cannot
help you.
Answer:
Here is what you are missing: Think not of those who are martyred in the way of Allah as dead. Nay! They are living, finding their sustenance in the presence of their
Lord." (Quran 3:169) Imam Ali and all the martyrs are alive as Quran clearly testifies, though they are not on the earth. So please do not treat them asdead. You must think after orders of Allah when ali is martyred(shahid).
why you say that he is dead? Are you kafir of quran?
In fact all of our Imams except Imam Mahdi were
martyred either by sword or by poison. Moreover, there are quite strong proofs
in both Shia and Sunni that the Prophet himself was also poisoned by a Jew in
the battle of Khaibar, and the poison slowly worked on his body till it finally
killed. him. I just bring tradition from Sahih al-Bukhari:
Volume 7, Book 71, Number 669:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
When Khaibar was conquered, Allah's Apostle
was presented with a poisoned (roasted) sheep.
Question: Yes I agree that’s all of 12
imams and prophet Muhammed was martyred and all of them are alive but they have
a different life then us. They cannot effect us or this world at all they have
no connections with . they cannot help us. Give me any delil for asking help
from martyred people who have no connection with this world?
Answer:
Yes prophet and ahlulbayt are different
but not finished. They are totally different then us when they were on earth
too. Read quran at 33 surah at 33 ayat. They are pure and clean from all rijas
( unclean, bad , sins and etc) but our birth ( humans) is unclean. If you say
no they do not have a different life then us, thast why they cannot help us,
then you are wrong. Because if we look at history of islam and on quranic
stories about other prophets you will see that things which had a connection
with prophets had also miracles .
Quran 012.093
SHAKIR: Take this my shirt and cast it on my
father's face, he will (again) be able to see, and come to me with all your
families
A shirt does no have any life at all so
how can this make prophet Yaqoob to be able to see. Why Joseph ( A.S) do not
only pray to allah or give his father any medecine or things like that. And if
Allah was helping Yaqoob A.S why Joseph is making that shirt as a wasila
between Allah and Yaqoob A.S. When Allah does not like wasila and he has direct
connection with us. No Allah dopes not want any direct connection with us. We
are unclean people.
Prayers have are not humans and this is a
act they have not life , but they can still help then why we cannot ask Prophet
for help?
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YUSUFALI: Nay, seek (Allah's) help with patient
perseverance and prayer: It is indeed hard, except to those who bring a lowly
spirit,-
112.002
YUSUFALI: Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
Question what do you think about Allah ?
Answer:
Allah is not a thing like me and you he is
lord . the King of
we are unclean Humans he is pure and clean
Exalted is Allah Whom heights
of daring cannot approach and fineness of intelligence cannot find. He is such
First that there is no extremity for Him so that He be contained within it, nor
is there an end for Him where would cease.
Question You talk so much about about connection to
Allah by prophets family but Allah does not allow it? And why you ask help from
Ali when Allah and prophets is better then him?
Answer:
wasila a normal human who has knowledge
from Allah is not haram. In quran we see a Prophet asking help from his
follower. This ayat will also answer those who belive that prophet cannot ask
help from Ali(a.s) because prophet(pbuh) is better then Ali (a.s). Ofcourse Ali
is not more then Prophet of Muhamed (pbuh) Ali is a follower of Prophet
Muhammed (pbuh). Now I want to show the quranic answer:
quran027.038
SHAKIR: He said: O chiefs! which of you can bring
to me her throne before they come to me in submission?
027.039
SHAKIR: One audacious among the jinn said:
I will bring it to you before you rise up
from your place; and most surely I am strong (and) trusty for it.
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SHAKIR: One who had the knowledge of the Book said:
I will bring it to you in the twinkling of an eye.
Then when he saw it settled beside him, he
said: This is of the grace of my Lord that He may try me whether I am grateful
or ungrateful; and whoever is grateful, he is grateful only for his own soul,
and whoever is ungrateful, then surely my Lord is Self-sufficient, Honored.
If asking help by name to a human and
making him wasila was shirk then prophet Suleman could never do that. When we
say ya Ali madad it does not means that we think Ali is a god or some thing
like that only Allah is god and he is one. Ali is a servent of Muahmmed and a
creation of Allah. But we use him as a wasila to our Allah.
We
have no direct connection with Allah . Allah is different then whole universe .
no thing is like him. Praise be to
Allah. He is such that senses cannot perceive Him, place cannot contain Him,
eyes cannot see Him and veils cannot cover Him. He proves His eternity by the
coming into existence of His creation, and (also) by originating His creation
(He proves) His existence, and by their (mutual) similarity He proves that
there is nothing similar to Him. He is true in His promise. He is too high to
be unjust to His creatures. He stands by equity among His creation and
practices justice over them in His commands. He provides evidence through the
creation of things of His being from ever, through their marks of incapability
of His power, and through their powerlessness against death of His eternity.
He is One, but not by counting. He is everlasting
without, any limit. He is existent without any support. Minds admit of Him
without (any activity of the) senses. Things which can be seen stand witness to
Him without confronting Him. Imagination cannot encompass Him. He manifests
Himself to the imagination with his help for the imagination, and refuses to be
imagined by the imagination. He has
made imagination the arbiter (in this matter). He is not big in the sense that
volume is vast and so His body is also big. Nor is He great in the sense that
His limits should extend to the utmost and so His frame be extensive. But He is
big in position and great in authority.
Question:
How can allow others to help us in others ( gods help)
when he king alone ? Only Allah is god and he do not share his power:
Not only on this world we can never ask Allah with out
connection (wasila) . every thing in universe has a wasila. That’s why quran
say in surah baqra:
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SHAKIR: Allah is He besides Whom there is no god,
the Everliving, the Self-subsisting by Whom all subsist; slumber does not
overtake Him nor sleep; whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth
is His; who is he that can intercede with Him but by His permission? He
knows what is before them and what is behind them, and they cannot comprehend
anything out of His knowledge except what He pleases, His knowledge extends
over the heavens and the earth, and the preservation of them both tires Him
not, and He is the Most High, the Great.
When ever Muhammed (pbuh) and his family
help us or do any action it is after permisson of Allah. Because they are totally
guided by Allah. The quran say :
He does not speak out of [his own] desire.
It is but a Revelation revealed. (Al- Quran: al-Najm, 53.3-4)
Another surah
002.255
SHAKIR: Allah is He besides Whom there is no god,
the Everliving, the Self- subsisting by Whom all subsist; slumber does not
overtake Him nor sleep whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth
is His; who is he that can intercede with Him but by His permission? He
knows what is before them and what is behind them, and they cannot comprehend
anything out of His knowledge except what He pleases, His knowledge extends
over the heave and the earth, and the preservation of them both tires Him not,
and He is the Most High, the Great.
One more ayat
021.027
Command.They speak not before He
speaks, and they act (in all things) by His
Question: Allah is every where then why
donot he help us when we ask him with out wasila?Quran does not say that you
cannot ask him with out wasila?
Answer: The Holy Quran further supports intermediary for approaching toward Allah where it states:
"O' you who believe! Be mindful (of your duties) to
Allah, and seek the means of approaching toward Him." (Quran 5:35)
The following verse proves that one can seek a Wasila
by approaching the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). Allah Ta'ala states in the Holy quran
"And
if when they do injustice unto their souls, then O Beloved! They should come to
you and then beg forgiveness from Allah, and the Messenger should intercede for
them, then surely, they would find Allah most Relenting, Merciful."
(Part 5, Ruku 7)
The prophet Muhammed (pbuh) is not a mercy
of Allah for a limited time . in quran Allah say:
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YUSUFALI: We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all creatures.
SHAKIR:
And We have not sent you but as a mercy to the worlds.
There is no time limit he is still a mercy
and same there is no ayats in quran which say that mercy of Allah ( Muhammed )
has changed his shape and he has not the same effect now. He has always been a mercy
before this world to for all creations and always
Quran 005.055
SHAKIR: Only Allah is your Vali and His Messenger
and those who believe, those who keep up prayers and pay the poor-rate while
they bow.
All muslims agree that only Imam Ali A.S
has payed the poor-rate while he was praying. There is no other person who has
done it and all muslims agree that this ayat is about imam Ali. Ali is our
leader because he is also vali for like Muahmmed. No one is better then Ali and
Ali has been our vali before this world too, he does not need a human body to
have a life he is light . he was before adam too. Because all of them are valis for all ways .
When Ali is vali our guardian , our
friend, our leader and helper then why we cannot ask him help , why allah do
not say in quran I made them your wali ( helpers/friends) from today and they
were no thing before. No Quran do not take any time limit . they are always
valsi then you cannot say no ali is no thing today ( astagfuralla) because then
u become kafir of quran.
Question: I belive on every word of quran
but I need ahadith from our sahih books of ahadiths because we understand quran
from ahadith. Give me some refrencies of ahadiths please?
Aanswer:
The first reference is on this topic of Ibn Abbas (RA)
to Imam Ali (AS). Please note that Ibn Abbas spoke the following words after
the martyrdom of Imam Ali. Thus he did ask for intermediary of what you called
a dead person
"When the death time of Abdullah Ibn Abbas (RA) approached, he said:O Allah! I seek to approach toward you by means of Wilayah (accepting the mastery) of Ali Ibn Abi Talib.'" Sunni references:1. Fada'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v2, p662, Tradition #1129
2.
Manaqib
Ahmad
3.
al-Riyadh
al-Nadhirah, by Muhibbuddin al-Tabari, v3, p167
Please note that Ibn Abbas died in 68/687 which was 28 years after themartyrdom of Imam Ali (AS). If resorting (Tawassul) to a dead was considered association (shirk), then Ibn Abbas would not dare to say so, and Ahmad Ibn Hanbal would not have recorded it. As for resorting to alive, al-Bukhari reported that Umar used make Tawassul
to al-Abbas for rain:
Sahih al-Bukhari Hadith: 5.59
Narrated Anas:
Whenever there was drought, 'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to ask Allah for rain through Al-'Abbas bin 'Abdul Muttalib, saying, "O Allah! We used to request our Prophet to ask You for rain, and You would give us. Now we request the uncle of our Prophet to ask You for rain, so give us rain." And they would be given rain."Narrated Abu Juhaifa: I came to the Prophet while he was inside a red leather tent, and I saw Bilal taking the remaining water of the ablution of the Prophet,and the people were taking of that water and rubbing it on their faces; and whoever could not get anything of it, would share the moisture of the hand of his companion (and then rub it on his face).
As we see, the great companions were honoring the drop of water which hadtouched the Prophet (PBUH&HF). Hazrat Imam ibn Jureer Tibri (radi Allahu anhu) writes that the Jews also made this Du'a: "O Allah! Send down that a Prophet who will make justice between us and the people and those people used to gain victory and help against the others through his mediation." (Tafseer ibn Jareer)
Hadrat Uthman bin Haniff (radi Allahu
anhu) says that a blind man came to the court of the Holy Prophet (sallal
laahu alaihi wasallam) and said, "O Messenger of Allah! Pray for me
that I may regain my sight." The Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi
wasallam) said, "Go and perform ablution and read two Raka'ats of
Nafil Salaah and read this Du'a: 'O Allah! Verily I ask of You and towards You
I use the mediation of Nabi-e-Rahmat, Muhammad Mustapha (sallal laahu alaihi
wasallam). O Muhammad! Verily I turn through your Wasila to Your Creator for my
needs so that my needs may be fulfilled. O Allah, accept the intercession of
Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) for me". (Ibn Maja; Shifa Shareef)
With regards to this Hadith Shareef about the blind man being asked to make
Du’a with the Wasila of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam),
Hazrat Allama Abdul Ghani Delhwi (radi Allahu anhu) says, "It
proves the permissibility of mediation and that of the Prophet's (sallal laahu
alaihi wasallam) intercession. This command is that during his life, but also
after his demise." (Misbahus Zijaja Bar Hashia ibn Maja) Thus, one is
allowed to seek the Wasila of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam)
even after his demise.
When Hazrat Adam (alaihis salaam) ate
from the forbidden tree, he made Du'a to Allah Ta'ala through the mediation of
the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) in this way: "O
Allah! Forgive me with the Wasila of Muhammad Mustapha (sallal laahu alaihi
wasallam)." (Tibraani; Muwahibul Ladaniyah)
The Ambiya are Wasilas (mediators) for their
Ummah in every form and the Wasila of the Ambiya is the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal
laahu alaihi wasallam). Hence, the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi
wasallam) is the Wasila of all mediations, even the Wasila for Hadrat Adam (alaihis
salaam). (Tafseer Saadi)
Hazrat Aisha Siddiqa (radi Allahu anha)
says that the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) said, "O
Allah! Grant Islam respect through Umar ibn Khatab." (Ibn Majah)
The Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi
wasallam) said: "Abdaals will be in Syria. They are forty men. When
one of them passes away, then Allah Ta'ala puts another in his place. Through
their blessings it rains. Through them victory is gained over enemies and
through their blessings punishment is moved away from the people of
Syria." (Mishkaat; Ash'atul Lam'aat)
Hazrat Umar Farouk (radi Allahu anhu)
sent troops towards Kasra and he made Hazrat Sa'ad bin Ka'ab Waqqas (radi
Allahu anhu) the commander of the troop. Hazrat Khalid bin Walid (radi Allahu
anhu) was the chief commanding officer. When they came close to the Dajla,
there were no ships or boats to cross the river. Hazrat Khalid bin Walid (radi
Allahu anhu) and Hadrat Sa'ad bin Ka'ab (radi Allahu anhu) went
forward and spoke to the river, saying: "O River! You are flowing
through the Command of Almighty Allah. Thus, we are giving you the Wasila of
the justice of Rasool (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) and the Khalifa of Rasool
(sallal laahu alaihi wasallam), Hazrat Umar Farouk (radi Allahu anhu). Do not
become a stoppage between us and our crossing." Suddenly, the river
gave way. Then the troops crossed the river with their horses and camels. They
reached the other side of the land in such a manner that their (horses and
camels) hooves did not even get wet. (Ar Riyaadhun
Nadhra)
In the above narrations one sees that the
Sahaba-Ikraam used various forms of mediation as solutions to their problems.
