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[Tue Nov 4 23:02] Athrian: As long as they weren't holding keys, there isn't anything illegal about hiding inside the temple
[Tue Nov 4 23:29] Athrian: What are you referring to?
[Tue Nov 4 23:31] Athrian: Nobody has been zonebanned for staking a zone that i'm aware of. People get zonebanned if they afk in the zone or actively try to prevent a repop/reset
[Tue Nov 4 23:32] Athrian: And we're not going to zoneban people for staking a zone. There's no difference between staking inside the temple and staking in the cpk grove outside
[Tue Nov 4 23:33] Athrian: It was not designed to be unbankable. As long as they did not play any games with the keys, go afk in the zone, or try to keep the zone from resetting, then it's not illegal
[Tue Nov 4 23:34] Athrian: That's like saying it's illegal to stake any zone in the game because it might prevent a depop
[Tue Nov 4 23:35] Athrian: No, if the keys are on the ground when the zone repops, then the zone takes them off the ground and puts them where they belong
[Tue Nov 4 23:35] Athrian: It doesn't mean it's license for people to play games in zones just to prevent a reset or repop, but what they were doing was 100% legitimate
[Tue Nov 4 23:36] Athrian: Crumbling a key like that isn't legal
[Tue Nov 4 23:37] Athrian: If anybody plays games in zones that go against the spirit of the rules, I guarantee they'll be zonebanned
[Tue Nov 4 23:37] Athrian: One again, if you play games with keys, including burning charges on them, you will be zonebanned
***********HERE HE SAYS ITS ILLEGAL TO STAY FOR HOURS ON END******************************
[Tue Nov 4 23:39] Athrian: There's nothing illegal about that unless you plan to stay in the zone for hours on end
[Tue Nov 4 23:39] Athrian: In that situation, you're not holding keys or burning any charges
[Tue Nov 4 23:40] Athrian: As I said, there's no difference between staking inside and staking cpk, as long as no key games are involved
******HERE HE REFUSES TO LOOK THROUGH LOGS TO SEE HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN IN WHICH ****
******HE SAID WAS ILLEGAL 10 LINES UP****
[Tue Nov 4 23:41] Athrian: I don't know how long they were in there, and as I see no rules being broken, there's no reason for me to spend forever going through the logs
******HERE.. Situation dependant*********
[Tue Nov 4 23:41] Athrian: And I'm not going to nail down a specific amount of time, it's totally situation dependant
*****HERE.. intent.. purpose? WE wanna bank their asses how does the situation change?*****
[Tue Nov 4 23:42] Athrian: As I said, it would completely depend on all your actions at the time, intent/purpose, and the situation
[Tue Nov 4 23:47] Athrian: As long as you're active in the zone, and not trying to play games with the rules, you should be fine
[Tue Nov 4 23:50] Athrian: I'm not sure what you're talking about. Nobody has been zonebanned
******* When asked to unwizinvis.......********
[Tue Nov 4 23:51] Athrian: I would prefer this be on pray in case the other WOMs have anything to add, especially since you said you were going to use this to abuse the zonerules in the future
***********I explain how 100 set us up, compared to a blind bank***************
***********So he redefines whats illegal ****************
[Tue Nov 4 23:53] Athrian: Things that will warrant a zoneban include (but are NOT limited to): locking yourself inside and hiding/holding the key, afking inside the zone, sitting in there for hours on end with no purpose other than keeping it from repopping
[Tue Nov 4 23:55] Athrian: I said it was legal to hide inside the temple depending on the situation. In the circumstances that occured earlier with your Glabrezu run, everything was legal
[Tue Nov 4 23:55] Athrian: And I also said there is no difference between staking inside the te
mple and staking cpk in the zone as long as no keys are being held or burned
***********Although he cut himself off, he said Spirit of the Rules: Be active*********
***********How is sitting hidden active!??????????????????**************
***********I wish he finished that telepath.***********
[Tue Nov 4 23:56] Athrian: I'm not going to list every single possible situation, because it's
impossible to exactly specify rules in zones regarding this. The spirit of the rules applies whi
ch is "if you're going to be in a zone, be active and don't try to purposely
[Tue Nov 4 23:57] Athrian: Yes because if you sit inside the zone for hours and not doing anyth
ing, that's preventing it from resetting
[Tue Nov 4 23:58] Jaolen: here's an example of a situation where you'd get in trouble: if you'v
e sat in the zone for 4 hours, and it's been about 8hours from reset, and only say d4 is runnabl
e, you'll get in trouble
[Tue Nov 4 23:58] Jaolen: if that *helps* clarify the 'situation dependant'
