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I, TX297, do not advocate the breaking of any law. This text file is for informational purposes only. I do not guarantee that any of the information contained in this file is correct, workable, or factual. I am not responsible for, nor do I assume any liability for, damages resulting from the use of any information in this file. Bad Ideas Heap O' Scams This file started off as a post on the totse.com BBS. The moderators could not keep this as a sticky so I took the initiative to put the information contained in the posts into this text file. Props go to: dDIzzIEe (for making the original post and contributing to the others), and everyone else whe helped and replied to the 'scam' posts. Contents Barcoding Realistically....................................................................A Small Barcoding Tutorial...................................................................B Desperate Cry for...MONEY*That a KID can do*...............................................C Not really a bad idea, not really a scam, but... [Best Buy Discount idea]..................D How I Got $100 From Gamestop...............................................................E Stealing Pool Games........................................................................F my attempt at a scam... could use tips [Fake return scam idea].............................G Shoplifting................................................................................H Stealing dvds from library.................................................................I walmart return scam - weekend thoughts.....................................................J my new scam idea [Price Match Scam]........................................................K School Locker Rooms........................................................................L Card Games [Duplicating trading cards scam]................................................M milk crates worth a lot?...................................................................N Regarding the Short Change Scam... ........................................................O Possibly Profitable Business... [selling smoke bombs]......................................P Scam Thread................................................................................Q Scams + Making Money.......................................................................R Possible 'Drop' Locations..................................................................S this does work,i just called a buch of food companies,lol [customer complaint scam]........T Free food from sonic.......................................................................U Complaint Letter Scam Writing Tips.........................................................V The Telemarketer Scam......................................................................W Stealing Bicycles..........................................................................X VENDING MACHINE COIN SCAM..................................................................Y Free Gas????...............................................................................Z Travel Scams and Rip-Offs Continued........................................................AA Blackmailing Stores For Profit.............................................................BB Taking Advantage of Store Sales for Profit.................................................CC Small Money Making Scams?..................................................................DD Fast, easy, free money. [Picking up Drive-Thru Change].....................................EE Travel Scams & Rip-offs {Discovery Channel show summary}...................................FF Dumpster Diving............................................................................GG How to Sell and Copy Games.................................................................HH How to start a riot........................................................................II Playstation Scam...........................................................................JJ Car Shopping...............................................................................KK EBAY LOOP HOLE.............................................................................LL Got RTCW KEY THrough SE [social Engineering]...............................................MM Counterfeiting(my tips)....................................................................NN Check Washing Tools........................................................................OO Robbery Scam...............................................................................PP airport scheme [stealing luggage]..........................................................QQ Shortchange Scam, Version II...............................................................RR SIMPLE, but brilliant scheme! [grab-n-run].................................................SS Recommended reading, and where to get it [book scams and scam books].......................TT Stealing [semi-coherent shoplifting advice?]...............................................UU a combination scam and theft...............................................................VV Blockbuster Scams..........................................................................WW "Spoofing Paypal" Not Exactly [paypal scam link]...........................................XX Stealing Solar Panels [unique idea]........................................................YY Data Mining [getting sensitive data from old hard drives]..................................ZZ Good ideas of making money at school -- any ideas..........................................AAA Getting Free Products by 'writing' reviews.................................................BBB DVD Scam...................................................................................CCC Coinage [finding change]...................................................................DDD save $$ on postage.........................................................................EEE the payphone scam?!?!?!....................................................................FFF Ballot stuffing as prize winning?..........................................................GGG Links......................................................................................HHH ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ A. Barcoding realistically +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: dDIzzIEe How to accually Barcode in down to earth terms: 1. Barcoding is the Alteration of what scanners read off of a product. For those of you who do not understand how Barcode tech works, i suggest you go to: http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/upc.htm It even has pictures for you tards who can't read well. 2. Now that we know how a barcode works, Class, Its time to pick a item/store to rip off... For my example i choose a computer game (ie. warcraft 3, or Half-life) from a certain electronics store (the one with a logo shaped like a blue price tag). From here on out it will be referred to as "storeX". the idea is to pick something less expensive the first few times around, and to make sure that its a HUGE store. 3. prepare for the mismark: Find a way to get a barcode from a cheap product, find it on the internet, have a cheap one around the house still. Barcodes are never from the store, its printed right on the box now, so as long as storeX carries it, its in their computer. for me i happen to have a box from a cheesey game my aunt got me when i was little, "Nox". Good news is storeX carries it still, and its like $8. i scan the code and print it off on sticker paper. 4. the operation: I walk into storeX a half hour before closing time, sticker in hand (literally). First thing scout out the Mark, i am buying a computer game... who know the least about computer games? some teenage girl! i find the most tired looking blondest girl there, remember what checkout she is in, then head to the sofeware department. find the game, pretend to look it over, find the barcode, and quickly but naturally put on the new one. walk up the the teen girl half talking, half mumbling "I can't belive IT'S on clearance!" hand it to her, and while she scans it say something like "long night?" Most of the time they will respond to that one (teenage girls love a chance to vent their bitchyness)pay the girl, and walk out. its that simple. Now some tips: - make sure the old barcode is covered really good, perhaps make the sticker extra thick by putting the sticker on top of another sticker. -go right before closeing time, everyone one is at the end of their shift, its late, nobodies at their best, they just want out of there! perfect for barcoding -Putting the barcode on: don't take to much time with it, before you go to the shelf, peel the sticker off the paper, so you just have to slap it on. pick up the box, and just add on your sticker, like it is the most natural thing in the world. -pick your mark wisely: Make sure to pick the person who know the least about your product, choose a 50 year old man if you wanna mark down make-up and shit like that, pick teenage girls for all electronics. make sure to make small talk, it takes focus off the price. I even have been known to pull the "you look familiar... what school do you go to?" "oh smalltown central?! i graduated X years ago!" -if they look funny about the price when it gets rung up act suprised say "whoa thats not right! i will go get a different copy, put that one off to the side girl!" then walk off towards the shelf, but run out the door in a minute or so. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: So when the cashier scans the game Warcraft III and it displays "Lunar Landing" on the computer screen for $5, do you think she's not going to notice? _________________________________________________________________________________ One of the ONLY ways you are going to get away with it, is it you have an entire cart full of merchanise and he/she's scanning many things. But still, I doubt they will fall for it. First of all, if there is a big sale, they know about it. Second, they are supposed to watch the moniter after each scan to make sure it rings up as the right product. It's their job. _________________________________________________________________________________ The reality of the matter is, the cashier sometimes reads, and sometimes ignores the screen. Most of the time, they dont bother looking at that screen at all. If you are smart, you can even find items of similar wording to barcode, reducing the risk of detection. Yes, barcoding works. Does it require some skill and luck? Yes indeed it does. Every scam has some element of chance, and so does this one. Lower your chance of getting caught by being smart and following instructions. _________________________________________________________________________________ Also, a few threads down there are 2 more threads on barcoding, and each has its unique information. I beleive one of them even has a link to the UPC generator, which would be useful indeed. _________________________________________________________________________________ In that particular scenario, it'd be easier to just put the Warcraft CD into the Lunar Landing box... _________________________________________________________________________________ just read my thing about barcoding on here. it's much more practicle. no offense but it's true... cashiers tend to look at screens. and especially a store like storeX, i used to work at office max and could tell you the price of every single item in that store, because there are only a few. i mean there are like 50,000 but they are all related so you learn what the expensive items are. hit a place like walmart, target, etc _________________________________________________________________________________ This idea is accually pretty good. Although, all that effort you spend in scanning and printing seems to be the classic case of people over-thinking these scams. When I was 12 yrs old I was at a store and I saw a $50 rc car that I wanted and so I looked around for a clearance sticker to put on it and hopefully get it for cheaper. I had found one for $5 and I stuck it on and went to buy the car. Now many stores have a "customer first" policy, where they have to give you the lower price. And so after the cashier looked confused for a minute she gave me the "clearance" price. I also do this one in the Wherehouse music store and it works great. I also have found, that if you shop in a richer neighborhood that you are able to get away w/ every scam in the book. _________________________________________________________________________________ you can greatly increase the chances of getting away with this, and also your profitability if your friend works at the store and you go through his or her line... _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ Assuming that the item is in a box, such as a software game, why couldn't you just take the disc out and put it in another box? If done neatly, it seems alot easier and safer than switching barcodes. __________ if the store has no cameras and is poorly attended, then that works fine. but nost software stores are better tahn that. if you stick the barcode on the box correctly, it looks a hell of a lot more casual than opening 2 boxes and switching the contents. i dont have any experience in this, it just seems like what i said would be correct. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ B. Small Barcoding Tutorial +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: flipz Ok this is not supposed to be a big barcoding tutorial, as there is one here: http://www.shadowcrew.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=12248 . i am just trying to post some things i know about it, and if anyone else could add some that would be great! i am looking for people to post websites or anything else to help out with doing this. here are ones ive found http://www.microcenter.com is the only site ive found so far that has UPC's on their product description. i know there are more so please post some the most useful site ive found is http://www.barcodesinc.com/generator/ . i spent about 2 months trying to find a good barcode font for free a few years back (not for this purpose) and i came across this site which lets you make online barcodes for free, and completely customize them. also if anyone has sites that happens to show pictures that show the product UPC. not for the purpose of seeing what the UPC is, but just to see the layout of it. if it has text above the upc, below it, a checksum upc, etc. hopefully someone posts so this thread doesn't fall off, and i get some help with it. the biggest thing im looking for is websites that list product UPC numbers. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: For sites that have their product UPC codes online, run a Google image search for something along the lines of 'UPC code' or 'product bar code.' Another idea would be to visit a store with a digital camera and set up a little site for everyone And to see the layout of UPC codes pay a visit to www.howstuffworks.com or run a Google search for 'how UPC codes work' or 'UPC code layout.' _________________________________________________________________________________ one thing i wanted to add was i think this would best be done on a sunday, monday, or maybe tuesday. because that way even if the cashier thinks they know the price of the item you are buying, new sales always start on sunday (in the US atleast) so they will just assume it's on sale. _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ so if a cashier happens to glance at the screen and see something along the lines of 'socks' for a bottle of Port... __________ thats why you get something similar. for example: Regular RCA universal remote - ring up as RCA Univ Rmt - price: $8.99 RCA universal touch screen remote - ring up as RCA Univ Rmt - price: $99.99 -or- Pioneer DVD player - rings up as Pioneer DVD DV333 - price: $299 Pioneer DVD burner - rings up as Pioner DVD R333 - price: $899 you don't try it with socks. _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ The problem often isn't that the cashiers know the price (more often than not they wont know the price anyway), the problem is that the cashregister monitors display the product name, so if a cashier happens to glance at the screen and see something along the lines of 'socks' for a bottle of Port... __________ Of course, this problem can be circumvented entirely by the use of the self- checkout stations commonly found in many grocery stores nowadays. _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ hrmm, wow. i never even thought about that! haha. now does anyone have any details on these? maybe someone works where they have them? the only time ive seen them they have like 4 of them, and a worker sitting in the middle. now if you walk through with some low cost items, and a dvd player, i wonder if they check your receipt or something. anyone know? __________ The ones I've seen at K-Mart are unattended, with cameras at the actual checkout stations looking down at you. If there was an employee around to watch, they're usually too busy running around cleaning up the perpetual messes the mexicans leave behind when they shop. Wear a hat and some sunglasses, and you're unidentifiable. Of course, this is a 'ghetto' K-Mart in a 'ghetto' part of town. In more upscale stores, they might check your receipt, and if this scam gets overused by everyone, they DEFINITELY will start if they haven't already. _________________________________________________________________________________ The self-checkout stations I’ve seen have scales. You will need to keep the bag weight (and probably item weight)with-in their limits for this to work. You will need to know the weight of the item you are ripping and the weight of the item you are scaming for it and compensate the difference. _________________________________________________________________________________ some info on self-checkout lines: http://personal.bgsu.edu/~nberg/chilabs/musing1.htm quote: __________ Example of passing the error: The Meijer system requires the self-checkout manager to push a button whenever an item's weight is above or below its 'standard.' If you bought a pound of cheese and it weighed 5% too much or too little according to the scale, this is interpreted as an error. The remedy requires the line manager to push a button stating that he verified the item to be cheese and the new weight should be added to the database. Unfortunately, he cannot easily check, as the item is already bagged. Thus, line managers never bother to verify items. Imposing the weight error onto the line manager only makes them push buttons like a starving rats in a Skinner box. They do not pay attention to the items! A check of actual use by the machine designers would have exposed this flaw. __________ quote: __________ KMart: The machines are so simple, in fact, that they require no separate self-checkout manager. Not once have I run into an error with the Kmart system. It works so well that I still don't know if it has a scale-check. __________ http://sacramento.bizjournals.com/sacramento/stories/2002/05/13/ focus3.html quote: __________ Shoplifting is a fear among retailers. But the systems are equipped with security measures. The bagging areas of the NCR systems, for instance, have scales. The system knows how much an item is supposed to weigh, according to the bar code that is scanned. If a customer puts in two items but scans only one, the system will shut down and require an employee to restart the checkout process. Kmart also has security cameras installed in the self-checkout areas, so customers are monitored while they scan and bag their merchandise. __________ so much for that idea ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ C. Desperate Cry for...MONEY*That a KID can do* +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: HackinDruggie Aight. Im 14 and only get money on X mas and b Day which both LONG away and i need some cash for lots of stuff i want.Gifts.Cool stuff.Concert tickets. Lots of stuff. Parents NEVER buy me anything or give me money. If you all got ideas how a 14 year old kid can *legally or IlLEGALLY*Make some cash. I need some. Im already Selling mix cds at school for 10 bucks. But i dont get many customers. Any simple *or complex as long as i could do it* ideas? And lay off the Oh well your can hack so why dont you just....blah blah blah shit.. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: i make fake things for kids at school sometimes like fake off campus passes and stuff like that. _________________________________________________________________________________ go down to local bookshop. ask to see manager. say you like to read the paper. say you like to try delivering paper. get name on waiting list. wait. i think you can handle it from there. _________________________________________________________________________________ Oh come on. Be original. I've always found ways to make money. Never had an official, over-the-table job. I make more money than both my parents put together. Some businesses where you can make SHITLOADS of money. #1: novelty ID. You'll need maybe a few hundred bucks to get the setup, it'll pay for itself in 2 days. If you go to a high school, you'll be able to make maybe $500 a day after the first week, when people start hearing about you. #2: clandestine chemistry. Gotta maybe, just maybe, learn something for this one. Once again, you can make a shitload of cash. #3: scamming, carding, etc. Check out shadowcrew.com. _________________________________________________________________________________ Well, you could either: 1. break into houses and steal the money 2. become a pimp 3. sell drugs(big seller) 4. get a job 5. not only sell music cd's but try pc games and naughty cd's 6. find a reciept from like k-mart and go inside grab the item and return it to get the moo moo! _________________________________________________________________________________ alright bud im only 13 and I got around 50$ doing this and I didn't get busted. Jam A coke machine that people only use during the day (like a school vending machine) then everyone will lose there money in it and the money is just sitting there in the slot like you can see it do you know what I mean? Well go back around 7pm so not very many people are there and take a paper clip and pull the money out it works belive me. in about 2 weeks I got 50$. Also steal small expensive things and sell them 3$ dollars cheaper and everyone will buy the shit. _________________________________________________________________________________ DOWNLOAD PORNO AND SELL IT, I MADE AU$20 PER CD DOING THAT!!!! or more reasonably...put like 1 or 2 epis of MILF hunter or Bangbus on one and charge a fiver, people WILL pay! Its easy money and you can truthfully say you've been in the porn industry. _________________________________________________________________________________ The porn CDs already suggested are probably profitable with minimal investment. Also look into dumpster diving (rescuing nifty things from other people's trash). Consider brewing alcohol. It will be years before your peer group can legally purchase the stuff but yeast and sugar/ fruit/corn/whatever are cheap and easy to get. Ferment, distill ( http:// www.moonshine-still.com ), and profit. _________________________________________________________________________________ here's something that i did last year and am starting to do it again Monday at school. the CD business is good if you dont have a lot of competitors, even if u do ill tell u what to do... i dont know how much a cd costs over there but i know its cheaper than here... so like ok... make little fliers, like 4x2 or something sayin ur sellin cd's, make it nice n interestin, no stupid shit, anyway hand it out... if your a nerd, probably no one will buy from u, try being friendly, anyway, sell the cds for about 5 bucks, if someone is already sellign them for 5 bucks, go cheaper, go 4 bucks, until that person gives up, cmon it worked for me, and even at a 2 bucks ur making almost double the profit so its good becaues the cheaper, the more cd's you will sell. anyway, yea do that and you will make a lot of money, i used to make about 100 dollars a week doing that :-D Damn i'm smart. _________________________________________________________________________________ Damn, a minor... You should do as much dirt as possible before you turn 18. Fuck morals... You're only 14 right? You have time to develope those later... Pawn your mom's jewelry... Your gramps gold watch... Dad's comic collection... Whatever... Fuck your family over... You're only 14. Rob your friends houses... When your there playing video games just take shit and get rid of it quickly... Steal watches, sunglasses, gold chains and sell them to minorities out of your backpack at the mall... Don't keep the shit in you room! Anything of value just take it... Outside of killing and raping at 14 you can almost get away with anything... If you get caught you go to Juvy.. Where you will meet all kinds of cool people who will teach you about drug dealing and turning out girls for prostitution... Get all your dirt done now before you are old enough to get sent to state penn... _________________________________________________________________________________ Jesus christ - i started making money at 12, i'm 14 now, and believe me, my parents never paid for anything i've got now, firstly, get a job, don't give me shit about being too young, don't go to big corporation things like mcdonalds or supermarkets, go to private owned small cd shops and such, ask them if they need any part time help, most likely they'll agree, and it's less hassle for you because they are private owned so they ask less details, which is what i did. Now, this won't pay alot, but hey, it's a job, then, download free porn, sell it at school, depending on the person, that's how you charge, you could sell drugs, or you can just rip people off if you can't get your hands on a constant supply of cheap drugs - This is what i do - go to a russian restarant i know, ask them to give me the empty bottles of smirnoff or absalute vodka, good stuff, then i'll go buy cheap vodka (yes, i know you are underage, so am i, you either look old enough, or you get someone else to buy it), fill up the smirnoff/absalute bottles with the cheap vodka, and sell it for as much as i like to minors, because they can't buy it anyway. Or - you get oregano, pass it off as weed, and sell it to dumbasses. If you think hard enough about it, the possabilities are endless, i make a shitload of money from various things and i've never wanted my parents help. Anyway..you just want the money for material things...I need it for food and clothes. Godamned parents keep kicking me out with nothing. _________________________________________________________________________________ For gods sake... steal what you need. It's not hard. and your a minor- they let you off easy in court. have some imagination, dont overestimate people. they are dumb and will fall for virtually anything. _________________________________________________________________________________ next time your in school and you have a free class, take out a deck of cards and ask around, you can get like 10 people playing. if you're good and can win, you can make alot of money _________________________________________________________________________________ I told you, walk around at night and look for unlocked car doors. After you have done this, open it and look around inside and take whatever you want.... _________________________________________________________________________________ Here's a really cool way of getting cash. a) Get hold of a tacky, cheap ring. b) Arrange to meet someone somewhere, probably to sell them something. c) Hang a poster up there saying 'VALUABLE FAMILY HEIRLOOM RING LOST - REWARD $500' d) Do the deal, but on the way out pretend to pcik up the ring and go "Wow, look what I found". e) When they realise what it is, they will try to buy it off you. Start off reluctant but in the end agree to sell it to them for $300 (or less depending on how much cash they have). f) Get the fuck outta there. Beleive me - IT WORKS!!!! Worked for me 4 or 5 times!!!! _________________________________________________________________________________ 1 pills sell sombody some doller stor niacin pills or somthing any thang thats white and dosent say asprin or advil iv seen pills at doller stor or niacin pills that are just pure wite and no markings next sell thim to younger kids like 13 or outher 14 yearolds as generic xanax or codine this one you can get away with ounce if you have to see the custemer agin just say thay dident take anuf sell thim like 2 for $5 next minithins yes these heve ephedrine in thim and when you take like 3 of thim you feel like your on speed thay are like $5 a bottle and if u sell thim a doller a pice tell thim its speed you can make profit only you have to be 18 to buy thim but i dont do that anymore now i sell weed for money and if i want to rip sombody off i buy a box of sweets and rool a fat joint with tobacco mix in thim and sell the sweets foe $5 now the weed i get is the best around so no one ever notices _________________________________________________________________________________ i didnt write this and i give " Bob" off undergroundforums.com credit. it sounds like a pretty good plan if someone isnt quick on their toes. __________ This is a scam i first heard of a few years ago, i tried it once and to my surprise it worked, although ive never really tried again. What you do is this: Firstly, you will need a 20 pound note (dollar bill) and a small container, possibly a match box (thats what i used anyway). You then find an unsuspecting victim and ask them if they want to make some money. The answer will most likely be yes. You then ask them if they have a 20 pound note (dollar bill). Take this along with your 20 and put it in the container. Then ask them how much is in the container. They will answer 40 pound(dollars), unless they're a bit slow. Offer to sell this to them for 30 quid(dollars). The majority of people will snap this up and hand over the 30 thinking that you must be mad to sell 40 for 30. What they don't realsie is 20 of this money is theirs, and have handed to you an extra 10. You then leave and feel smug that you have just scammed your self a few extra quid to spend on things like loose women and beer. This scam can obviously be used to obtain different amounts of money but i think 10 is good enough. _________________________________________________________________________________ Dumpster Diving is the way to go. Here is a list of everything i have found. www.dumpsters.2ya.com i make over $100 every time i go and what i don't keep i sell _________________________________________________________________________________ Here's how I make my money: I get a catalog from BudK every once in a while (budkww.com) and order their cheapest deals. For example, a few months ago, I bought three sets of ten knives for $9.95 per set. I sold each knife in the set, individually, for $10 apiece. That's $300 dollars, and $270 of it is profit. I do shit like that all the time. Sometimes, they have katanas on sale for $20 apiece, so I buy ten of them, and resell them for 35 apiece. That's $15 profit per katana. Think of shit like this, it works. Trust me _________________________________________________________________________________ I just made $250 from watching my neighbors dogs... All the require me to do is let them out after I come home from school, then come back at 6:30 to feed them and let them out again. _________________________________________________________________________________ There are many things a teen can do for money, and if you have talent, you can make more than most adults. Here are some ideas. :Are you good with computer hardware? Start up a computer service business. Make business cards, flyers, and advertise in the newspaper that you can repair/upgrade computers. :You can also teach computer lessons to newbies. Do this only if you have excellent social skills and don't mind associating with people. I heard this can be very profitable. :Graphic Design. This is another field many teens persue. Are you good with photoshop etc..? You get the idea. :Advertise that your buying peoples junk and resell on ebay on profit. You can also go yardsailing and buy junk there to resell. If you are a good crasftman of any sort, you can also make money from selling your crafts, selling dollhouses, blankets, people even make freddy kruegar replica gloves and resell them for a good profit ($100+). Look it up on ebay if you don't believe me. Look for stores that are going out of business and have excellent deals, you can buy low, sell, high. This does require a good amount of experience to make a ton of money at though. Main requirements are, Customer service skills, and a knack for knowing the value of items you buy used. : Become a webdesigner. Do you know your web programming? If so, why not profit from it. : Start up a lawn care business. Let's face it, people are lazier than fuck here in the USA and most people will be glad to pay you for your hard, manual labor. If you have business skills, you can grow this into a large company and hire teens to do the work for you If you are a tree monkey, don't forget to eventually offer a tree service. Some tree cutters make over $50/hr. This is dangerous, hard work but pays good. House painting is also another decent paying job a teen can do. This section is for illegal ideas. Although illegal ideas can be profitable, so can legal ideas. Go car hopping, break into garages, shoplifting etc.. And resell your goods online for pure profit. :Become a drug dealer. :Grow or process drugs. :Merchandise fraud. Buy 2 items that are mechanically built the same, but one of the items is a cheap, inferior version. I'll give you an idea by comparing a dvd recorder vs. a cheap standard cd rom. First buy the cd rom somewhere online or wherever. Now go to walmart and buy an expensive DVD Recorder that is built mechanically the same. Once you have both of these items, take both items apart and switch the insides. Now you'll have the cd rom casing with the DVD recorder inside of it. You also have the DVD recorders casing with the Cheap, cd rom's insides. I hope you get the idea. You can now take back the DVD recorder ( which is really the cd rom) and tell them it doesn't work for a refund. Make sure to break it before you return it so they can't test it only to discover it's a cheap cd, rom. You should also take any stickers off the electronic part indicating what it is. You now have a $300.00+ DVD recorder that you paid a mere $30.00 for. _________________________________________________________________________________ If you know lots of stupid fuck-up kids - like yourself, for instance - who think they're badasses, making cash is easy. Just go to Wal-Mart and buy a bottle of mint extract. Take the mint home and pour it in a 20 oz. coke bottle. Then fill it the rest of the way with flat coke, water, or whatever. Then go tell your dumbass friends it's moonshine and charge them mad prices. Reinvest in some more mint and repeat. I know this sounds silly to all you real drinkers out there, but keep in mind the market you're aiming at here. Target the stupid shits with no hookups and no other way to get messed up. They'll buy it and come back for more. _________________________________________________________________________________ This would be pretty ammusing to pull off, and if you knew the layout of the store, priceless... Alright, heres what you do. Make a magic bag (and don't go small, make one out of a backpack... Or something similar... I won't describe how to make it, you'll have to do your own homework there) A potassium nitrate smoke bomb. The big ones that produce mean ammounts of smoke. I believe it was 6 parts potassium nitrate (KNO3, buy it at Home Depot as "Grants Stump Remover) and 4 parts sugar... Make sizeable one. About a pound... Now, go to a store you know the lay out of and has almost no security. Light the bomb, get away from it. Wait til the store is pretty cloudy and pull an alarm, then navigate to place of high valued goods and grab all you can and stuff it down in that nifty magic bag... Now just run out in a panic like everyone else who thinks the place is burning down! Don't stick around for questiong! If you have a friend that can drive, take advantage of it! Whatever, it may be fantasy but its something i'd pull for fun (minus the stealing) with my friends... The stealing is just for profits. Bon Appitete _________________________________________________________________________________ These people talking shit are probly dead beet parents so dont worry..i was in this same spot when i was 13 i started stealing cars and going out to department stores like circuit city and stealing shit. but the best thing to do right now is to start a import chop shop go out and steal cars that have racing shit on them or break into payphones and coke machines with lock pics i robbed a pepsi machine at a grocery store and got $150 one night and now is when all the idiots are fixing up cars cause of hollywood movies so sell shit and steal shit cause the conformist and society bots dont support stray sheep... those get a job people are mad cause they have to kiss there booses ass every day ha ha ha _________________________________________________________________________________ *borrow*the teachers answer key book. take it down to a copy shop and copy 10-20 lessons out of it. replace the book so that the teacher finds it and looks stupid after yelling at everybody, and sell the answer sheet pages for $3-$5. _________________________________________________________________________________ Try rolling around in dog shit in your worst clothes and walk to the nearest big city with a sign saying 1 buck or 2 two for new clothing and food since your a kid you will make good money outside the mariniers stadium you can make about 150 dollars when people are coming in and out try big events and shit like that i wouldnt try this in a small city where people know you plus seattle atracts a full statium i wouldnt try this in any other place besides yankees on a good game like againest the mariners or a play offs game where it will generally be sold out and tip on making the card board sign write side ways not up and down like you would at school people dont want to read the papper the long way write it like this ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ D. Not really a bad idea, not really a scam, but... [Best Buy Discount idea] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: This still seems like the best place to post it, since it's sort of a legal scam. Go to best buy. They'll have tons of these gamer gift cards, basically gift cards on grey and green cardboard inside a CD case. Each one comes with a $5 coupon on any video game or accessory $19.99 and up, so basically you can get $5 off any game you want. Not a big deal with some of the things, but for example with the Platinum Hits and whatever they call the PS2 analog of that, that's a 25% saving on an awesome game. This still seems like the best place to post it, since it's sort of a legal scam. Go to best buy. They'll have tons of these gamer gift cards, basically gift cards on grey and green cardboard inside a CD case. Each one comes with a $5 coupon on any video game or accessory $19.99 and up, so basically you can get $5 off any game you want. Not a big deal with some of the things, but for example with the Platinum Hits and whatever they call the PS2 analog of that, that's a 25% saving on an awesome game. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Well, I suppose there's nothing stopping you from just taking the coupon, but it's a totally pointless risk... Say you're getting a $20 game. Go up and put $10 on the gift card, then take the card and but the game with the coupon, and pay the remaining balance. _________________________________________________________________________________ another thing u can do in best buy is. buy an item any item it really doesnt matter.open it come back 5 minutes later and return it you will get all your money back.Come back the next day and it will be back on the shelf with a 25% open item discount. And you know its not fucked up couse you were the one who opened it thats a good way to get a 25% discount without using a copoun or any gift card. I always do that at best buy and its realy hard to get cought.i dont know if this works any wer else. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ E. How I Got $100 From Gamestop +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: MSW2006 Okay, this is my best scam. Well, you see, my local Gamestop doesn't force me into taking that store credit bullshit, and they don't even bother testing out games before they buy them from customers. So, I got an idea about a month ago, and tested it out. What I did was go to a second cheap used game store, and I bought five used SNES cartridges for less than five dollars apiece. Then, I printed out the labels for the cartridges of expensive SNES RPGs, and threw them on over the cheap ass SNES games from the other store. Namely, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 3, Final Fantasy 2, Secret of Mana, Earthbound, and Lufa And The Fortress of Doom. Each one sells for $40 at my local store, and they give you half the amount they sell it for. One hundred bucks total, $89 profit. Wow me. *bows* _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: quote: __________ what kind of printer, paper, ink, labels did you use to print the labels? it seems like it would pretty difficult on just standard equipment __________ I have mostly standard equipment, but a laserjet printed that prints at a high DPI (dots per inch). Hewlett Packer printer (model number not shown). Paper? A thin sticky paper from Staples. Look for it in the printer section. _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ I just thought of a better idea. I heard that you can actually buy blank cartriges and copy the games with this thing you hookup to your computer. If you did this then printed a realistic label for the game, it would be foolproof and profitable. __________ You can, but the equipment cost to do this would be too high for the scam to be worthwhile. Anyway, I certainly wish that MSW2006 would post his scans. Doing so is almost totally legal, and even if it isnt legal, no one really gives a shit. I would suggest that you host them on a free server such as Netfirms or similar. As for printing, you can buy sticker paper at Staples and other office supply stores. You would need some cutting skills to get the damn thing right though, unless you can buy them preforated with the same size as the label themselves. You can use any high quality printer, I suggest the Epson C82, which can also be used for printing novelty identification cards. _________________________________________________________________________________ Alright, I'll work on it. I'll try and do it later tonight, however, I'm grouunded from the computer, but I'll do it as soon as I can. The main purpose of the $100 was to be able to fix my computer, which went under recently. Oh, and my newer scam: those fucking DVD offers. I was flipping through Electronic Gaming last month, and fouund an offer of 5 DVDs for 49 cents each, with shipping for 1.99 per DVD. So I payed for it with a money order, because it had one of those buy later at a higher price things, and I used a fake name anda number. Had them delivered to an abandoned house, sold them to the local DVD store, and made 39 bucks profit. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ F. Stealing Pool Games +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: kastro Alright, I can jam a stir stick into each quarter and loonie slots but this brings major heat from the bartenders because they watch for this type of stuff now. Does anyone have any other clever ways to trick the pool machines into thinking you've paid? I know it sounds cheap but we play a countless amount of pool and it would break our bank _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Also, I've heard that putting nylon under the quarters works as well because the nylon won't let it drop. _________________________________________________________________________________ washers will work, as manual coin changers only detect size, not composition. dont use too many though, or else when they empty the coin box they will get a box full of washers. if they are already onto you for doing the straw thing, chances are they will assume it is you doing the washers too... ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ G. my attempt at a scam... could use tips [Fake return scam idea] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: flipz so last month i placed an order for a flat panel monitor from a major company (no names). the day it was supposed to ship i got an email saying it wouldn't be shipped for a month. so i called that day, cancelled that order and ordered a different one. the next week the new order came, and about a week later the old order (that was supposedly cancelled) also showed up. and yes i was charged for it. so i called them that day and had them arrange for it to be picked up and returned. i left it with the people at the front desk in my dorm. well it's a month later now, and i just found out the box was still sitting down there!! either airborne never came, or when they did no one saw the box to give them. so anyways i still have this monitor, and just got a bill from the company and it's still on my account. so im gonna call and tell them i sent it back and why is it still on my bill. any comments / suggestions / tips? im kinda handle it like the scam where you call a food place and complain that it wasn't good and they give you free food. ill stay cool headed and just act like im pointing out a mistake that it wasn't taken off the bill. lets hope it works. -flipz side note: it isn't some small company, it is a big one. the monitor would go through lots of hands before it got to the account people, it could easily disappear. lets hope they think so too _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: If you complain ENOUGH, it can be credited back to your account. However, this is not very likely, and will be very difficult indeed. Then again, you might just get lucky and get the careless customer service rep that will just think there is a computer error and credit your account. There really isnt any technique to this besides from acting like it really happened and telling a great lie. The rest of it is just plain ole luck. _________________________________________________________________________________ If you used a major credit card. Contact the credit card company and see what they can do for you. I called the cc company about almost the same thing(dvd drive instead of monitor) happen. The cc company then requested the info from the company. They usually give the company 10-30 days to provide proof that i actually still had the product. The company never responded so the cc company never paid the company and credited my account. I had two dvd drives, one in my computer and the other still freshly boxed up in my brothers house. _________________________________________________________________________________ If u bitch and complain enough, they will prob. believe u. Just act genuinly outraged and say stuff about how ull never shop there again ( and u probably shoudnt!) ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ H. Shoplifting +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: MSW2006 I was looking through the archive, but the old set of messages (6-7 pages) was deleted, so I decided to start up another thread. Tips, tricks, places to shoplift, etc? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: A place to shoplift would be a store. Some tips: don't look obvious. Try to act cool calm and collected. Make sure no one is looking or there are no mirrors or survalince cameras. Also invest in making a magic bag. It will help. _________________________________________________________________________________ What i do is when a store only has one persomn working, grab a choc bar, and then buy it. When shes ringing it in stand close the the counter and grab stuff off it and shuv it in ur pockets. Now walk out after u pay for the bar. Happy trails _________________________________________________________________________________ Just plan out every possible situation. Make one of those magic bag thingies carefully. Don't run until you are caught. Act like you're not doing anything wrong; like you're just another regular shopper. _________________________________________________________________________________ And, undercover patrols...In Wal Mart, are usually the ones clad with the cell phones...listen to their conversations, and you'll see what i mean. _________________________________________________________________________________ 1. Realize that young folks tend to be watched more closely than older shoppers--this is grossly unfair, but that's the way it is. 2. Dress well,or at least as expensively as you can. In other words, look like someone who does not have to steal. 3. Keep your score under $100-that can make the difference between being charged with a felony or a misdemeanor if you get busted. 4. Store security has no legal right to detain you. And if they touch you at all, in any way, they have committed assault. 5. Eschew magic bags, just ditch the dingers. _________________________________________________________________________________ steal from somewhere your friends work. they can help you get out without being caught or if they are on duty at that time they can turn the other way during your "shopping." Or if you want to hit up another shop you can use them to test your magic bag. FRIENDS help a lot when doing anything bad. _________________________________________________________________________________ If one of your trusted friends works as a cashier at a retail store, there is an easy way to steal. :You can either buy a few cheap items and mix in a good item or 2 then checkout at the register where your friend is working. The cashier then pretends that he scanned the item but really doesn't. :If there are cameras all over the place, just have a 3rd friend switch the barcode label on the merchandise you want to steal. The best thing to switch it with is a very similar item but a cheaper, inferior version. Come in the store later and buy it. Check out at the resister where your friend is working. You could even pull this off with a cashier you don't know. If you have trouble finding sticker barcodes, you can make them with a scanner, printer, and blank barcode labels. This could become a huge money making scam. _________________________________________________________________________________ magic bags are stupid. just take the magnetic strips off in the store. and about security cameras, if your in a store with those bubbles on the ceiling, remember that most of those dont even have a camera inside. their just a deterant. plus, you can always stand directly below one and stuff whatever into your pants. they cant look straight down. and rob ppl at lunchtime when the security guys are eating or on break. i steal at least on average 50 bucks of merchandise a day. if u get real good, you can make a busness outta it. take your time and stay cool. _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ I got to thinking, when I am in Barnes and Noble and am looking through a book, I sometimes come across those squares that have a border that I am guessing is magnetic and a centimeter down there is another one and so on to the middle of the square. Theoretically speaking, could i walk out of the store with the book if i take that out? Anyways.. __________ If you're talking about what I think you are, then yes. Just to clarify, the strips are usually these light colored stickers that are probably made of plastic. They're usually in rectangle shapes. Basically, just peel off anything that's a sticker and you're set. quote: __________ I think that shoplifting sounds like an easy and fun way to get free shit, but I just don't got the balls to do it. Every1, what was it like ur first time shoplifting? __________ Good god, I was freakin nervous. The first time I stole was from Electronics Boutique or whatever. I had spotted two games I wanted, so after a long moral debate with myself, I decided to steal them. I held both games in my left hand below my waist. Now, I was fairly sure that there were no sensors at the door, but when you're really nervous, you begin to panic and over-analyze stuff. You begin to think, what if there ARE sensors? What's going to happen to me? But after a long time (I think maybe 30 minutes) I simply walked out of the store when the guys weren't looking. I then directed myself to the nearted mall restroom and discarded of the boxes and hid the games in my pants. Afterwards, it just became more natural to me. I then began making a good 50 bucks a week by reselling the merchandise more than half off to all my friends a week. Then later, up to a couple hundred. I have since stopped stealing on a regular basis simply I'm trying to cleanse myself of sins. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I don't exactly want to have all these memories of childhood theft when I'm older. Why? I honestly don't know. _________________________________________________________________________________ Well the one I go to doesn't. It really depends on where you go. I think one of the easiest ways to know is to have someone that looks like they're in middle school come into a mall or something holding a pencil and a clipboard, and then having them walk from store to store asking about store security and how it's for a "school project" about the changes in security after 9-11 or some shit like that. I find that many of the stores at the mall I frequent have sensors and cameras that are just decoys to scare people. You never really know until you ask... _________________________________________________________________________________ Well just got for it. Your first time go to a little shop and steal some chocolate and do that a few times just to get your confidence up. Soon you will know what to look for and will get good at finding ways of concealing or lifting goods. I have to say what works best with me is NOT going out with a plan. I seize an opportunity if there is one because if you go with a plan and for some reason it aint gonna work then chances are you will do something stupid just to make up for it cos you really want to steal and stupid=caught. _________________________________________________________________________________ Well, I went up to Media Play today...incase you have any in your area. Anyways, I have a friend who works there, and we got to talking, so I casually asked her about some of the security going on there. First of all, the books usually don't set off the alarms, and even if they do, it's hard for them to prove (esp with a backpack) that you didn't walk in with them. Also, they put security tags (magnetic) inside boxes, and sometimes, leave boxes empty, randomly, on purposes, just to bust attempting shoplifters. Use a fucking magic bag if you can't get the shit open. I think that's all I've learned, but that's covering a little bit of Media Play's security for you. Oh yeah, Dollar General...they have non- uniformed assholes who will follow you around the entire time, so be careful if you intend to shoplift there - and, if I'm not mistaken, they have no sensors. I also checked out Gamestop. No censors, but there is a security camera or two, usually just pointing at the cash register. Also, the store is usually worked by one or two people max. Just find a blind spot, and pocket what you want. Don't bother taking the CD cases, the fuckers are empty. Just take the cartridge games, and walk out of there. Watch out for store employees watching you; they're careful-eyed, but usually are too busy and young to watch you the whole time you're there. I think that's all I've learned today. Have fun kiddies. _________________________________________________________________________________ Well, it is now my goal to write an all inclusive shoplifting guide for totse, I'm talking a MONSTER ass file covering EVERYTHING. Well, I started typing, I expect the following to be about 1/10 of the total product: Well, having been a TOTSE member for quite a while now, I figured that it's time I post a guide on one of my favorite criminal topics: SHOPLIFTING. Anything and everything in this information guide is provided for information; whatever the hell you do with this information is of your own responsibility. If you get caught, it's your own fucking fault. Maybe, if you following this guide, you won't get caught. First and foremost, dress up nicely before you go out. I'm not telling you to go out and buy a full business suit or a tuxedo - just dress like somebody who would not have to steal. The second most important thing is a razor blade, scalpel, or Exacto knife. Any one of these things is a shoplifter's best friend. Use them to remove the covers of books if you can't get off the magnetic theft tag. Use it to cut off magnetic theft tags, or, any tag for that matter. Another important thing to do is to build a secret pocket of some kind. I have one that's five by five inches, sewn into the lower leg part of a pair of jeans I have, on the inside. If you do the same, you'll find it's very handy for holding CD cases or CDs themselves, among other things. Which brings me to more BS about clothing. Don't wear coats, heavy jackets, or long-sleeved stuff (obviously) in the winter. It makes you look very suspicious. Baggy pants are okay, but I've noticed that the gothic kids and kids that wear all black get followed around a LOT more often than the jet-set does. So, follow point one, and wear something nice. A pair of baggy khakis and a nice T-Shirt will do. Moving on...Watch out for undercover security patrols. In Wal-Mart, you can find these people rather easily, simply by looking for people that are nearly always around you in the store, and carry a cell phone. I don't have anyything against people with cell phones, I just find it funnyy that they are always the ones who are following me around. However, if you plan on stealing clothes, these guys are easy to take care of. Just get a heavy pile of clothes off of the racks, and take them into the dressing room. Use your razor/scalpel/exacto knife to cut off any tags (make sure you get all of them!) and wear the stolen clothes under the ones you took in. Stick the tagsin the pockets of a pair of pants, and, with your new clothes, walk out. If you carefully removed every tag, you'll have made a smooth getaway. Sometimes, though, we might want to seem like a "good" shoplifter by buying something from the store anyways. Plus, if you buy something like a CD or DVD, which usually has tags hidden inside, you'll have a good excuse if the alarm does go off. Caveat emptor! As we cruise along, I'd like to point out a few good places to shoplift, and a few bad ones. Good Places to Shoplift: 1.) Dollar General - Usually medium to large sized stores, these stores are understaffed with few employees, and fewer cameras, usually aimed at registers and employee exits. No alarms whatsoever, and most of the things sold in the store are small, pocketable items. 2.) Media Play - Usually medium to large sized stores, with less than a dozen employees, half who work the registers, one or two who stock the shelves, and two specialty people for both the CD section and book section. While there are cameras, alot of them are fake; also, they are not monitored in real time. The barcodes do not set off the alarms at the doors, on books or magazines. Also, many, many computer games can be taken out of their cardboard boxes with a simple razor. Easy pickings. 3.) Gamestop - Any extra tips and stuff will be mentioned in the article. Confuzious, where the hell are you? You'd probably be one of the best contributors to such an article. _________________________________________________________________________________ Here are a couple shoplifting ebooks worth reading for any budding shoplifter [21 Ways to Spot a Shoplifter!] http://www.winsite.com/bin/ Info?5000000036987 [How To Beat Shoplifting and Increase Profits] http://www.in-the-e- zone.com/e-book-zone/freebooks3.htm (about half way down the page) _________________________________________________________________________________ RULE #1: APPEARANCE. If you walk into a store looking POOR or like a CRIMINAL, the employees will automatically keep an extra eye on you. DRESS CLEAN, CUT, & CRISP. RULE #2: ATTITUDE. It's all about acting like you own it. That what you doing is no big deal. DO NOT look around and shove something in your pocket or go to a back corner...STUPID! ALSO, IF THE STORE USES SECURITY TAGS, ALMOST ALWAYS THE CAMERAS ARE FAKE EXCEPT NEAR THE CASH REGISTER BUT IN THAT CASE A VIDEO TAPE ID BEING RECORED NOT BEING WATCHED. Also, low end stored such as; Big Lots, Ross, Marshalls, TJ Maxx watch more carefully and are more difficult because they expect it. EX: A local store in my area(keeping its name anonymous) is fairly large & has a constant flow of people. I've stolen longboard skateboards, carve boards, suitcases, bookbags, etc. It's all about attitude. First, I go behind and empty register and get an expty store bag & act as if I need it for a jacket im holding just anything you wouldn't want to carry. Then I walk around, find something I want (like a skateboard at this particular store) I pick it up, look at it for awhile, act as if I'm contemplating on wether to buy it or not, then walk around the store with it under my arm, then I sit down for awhile in sight of my planned exit (wait anywhere from 5 to 15 mins) At this time I descretely watch the exit, employees, & then the customers. When the register gets buisy, you just walk out w/it right under your arm! Don't worry if other customers see you, if you have a confident, happy, relaxed attitude, they'll believe you won it too! BUT always have a back-up responce incase questioned; such as "Excuse me, but my brother just paid for this" that way you don't need to show a receipt. *The more practice, the more natural & easy it will come to you. I didn't mention skills as in how slick you are beacuse thats a given. Everyones got their own style as long as its not obvious! Remember it's all about how you present yourself & the "you own it, it's mine" attitude! Hope this was helpful! Good Luck! _________________________________________________________________________________ Heres a good way to shoplift... what you need: a long pair of pants a half set of balls Ok walk in and go to the PC games section(not the playstation games that are behind glass) but the PC games on the shelf.pick out the one you want and read the back for a while.With a satisfied look walk to the Fabricks part where they sell rugs,and crap.I guarantee there will be 3 or more isles with no camaras, set he game on the shelf behind a rug or something and start to peel off the sticker on the top of the PC game. (important) if anyone comes by put the game behind something thats already there and act like u are messing with the rug. after they leave peel off the sticker,take the gamecase out and lift up the cd's and chek if theres a barcode in the game. if there is thanjust take the CD's and not the case(the CD's will fit in most pockets) if there is NOT a barcode than place the disk with its cover on it in your pants(you know where the very top end of your pants is?) I found this to be the best part where the game isint sticking out.walk out and enjoy your game or resell it. Usually look for the newer games that ppl drool for so you can get $$$$$$ IF YOU GET CAUGHT In my earlier days I was caught 2 times and both those times i got away because of...Tears.. i balled in the managers office and told him my friends were peer pressuring me into stealing in order to be one of there friends.(damn that worked good) and they let me off free, but told me never ot come in the store again. but i did lol. good luck _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ Ohh yeah, and its not stealing until you leave the store. So don't sweat it when you are in the store. __________ Wrong! As soon as you conceal an item, it is considered shoplifting (at least in america), and you can be stopped and arrested before you even have a chance to step out the store. On a lighter note, shoplifting isn't all that hard as long as you think it through. Cameras aren't the threat you people make them out to be, since either way they are being monitored with human eyes. Humans, unlike the electronic recording devices they trust their stores with, can not monitor all areas of the store at one time, and if you don't stand out, you can successfully conceal an item right in front of a camera. Here are some of my personal tips for shoplifting... - Make long trips around the store. Do not go directly for a single item, stash it, and walk out of the store. Walk around for a little bit. Shop around. Just look like a normal customer. - Do not steal from a single store more than once in a given time. If you go to a store, and say, steal a CD, wait it out for a week or two before walking in to steal again. Many security guards look for these patterns, since many habitual theives can not resist hitting their favorite target again and again. - Undercover security guards are a threat, and most large chain stores nowadays have them (I should know, that's how I got caught in Wal-mart, but that gave me the chance to learn from my mistakes ). If you see any individual who seems to be giving any attention at all to you stash the item in one of the shelves and walk out. - If you are caught, do not run unless you have an escape plan ready. Many large chain stores have security guards on hand with vehicles, ready to chase down anyone who tries to make a run for it. If you don't have an escape vehicle waiting outside, or a very good thought-out escape route, then simply comply with the guards, and accept the consequences. _________________________________________________________________________________ Here's a good way to steal computer games... go with 2 or 3 friends... pick out the game you want... now have one of your friends start playng one or those try me out type game sytems... you and your friends croud around him and make it look like you are watching and interested... now you have a nice little human shield around you, so start takin off the dinger... if its a computer game or cd then u can just take off the plastic rapper- its easier... pocket it, walk out the door... enjoy your new game... ive done this a few times it works nicely ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I. Stealing dvds from library +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: i dont have one hey ppls. today i just went to my local libary to discover they had the box set of band of brothers on dvd. i was wondering if i should steal it next time i go in? (my libary has no sensors cameras) or should i just keep it and rip off all the libary stickers etc.. on it? and never return it. the stickers are easy to take off. And can metholated spirits take off permenant marker? thanks peace out _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Check out a DVD and see what the librarian does with it, does she swipe it over any flat looking pad? Anything else besides bar code scanning? And speaking of barcode scamming, you might want to photocopy the barcode off another DVD and paste unto the one you want (over its original barcode), check it out, and when the late return letter comes, go to the library and point out that you already returned the DVD, proceeding to show that it is on the shelf... Of course this depends on how careful the librarian is when she checks out your material (if she pays attention to the title, etc..) _________________________________________________________________________________ Yeh they dont have a swiping pad, they just scan the barcode thats it. they dont really pay any attention to it. i already have hired it out. so when i return it ill just rip off the barcode sticker @ the libary becuase there all retarts anyway + they prowl around. ill return it and they take it. thanks for ur help ill tell u when the deed is done. another note- does metholated spirits take off permenant maker? the other stickers etc can be taken off with a knife no problems. The whole marker thing is coz its got the libary name (concord libary) written on the top part of the discs and the clear plastic part of the box. peace out thanks _________________________________________________________________________________ for cleaning off permanent marker PLEASE just use metholated spyrits. most everything else will melf most plastics. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ J. walmart return scam - weekend thoughts +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: flipz ok this weekend was my fiance's bday, and her sister bought her the 8 mile dvd for her bday. however it was the censored one, and she wanted uncensored. so we went store to store looking for it. the first thing that came to my mind was that when we walked into walmart, the guy put a sticker on it. now this sticker can easily be taken off, and put on something else. and then you walk out the store with that item, if questioned say they didn't have the item you wanted to exchange it for so you are keeping it for now. also all it was is a slap gun w/ pink tape and the date. wouldn't be too hard to buy that and make your own return stickers. the other was target. we walked in like 30 mins before closing and the place was busy, but deserted of employees. she stood by the place to return items (there was no one there, just a button saying "push for assistance") while i walked to the back and got the dvd she wanted. they had it so i walked back up and when i got there she pushed the button. so we are holding what appear to be 2 brand new dvd's in our hands, because both are sealed. however he allowed us to exchange the regular 8 mile for the uncensored 8 mile, w/o any problem. he was actually really nice to us. so how much harder would it be to just walk back, grab both, and then go "exchange" one. (kind of a twist on the return scam, but works best with 2 people. especially if the one doing the returning is a young female such as my fiance. ) so most likely these have been posted before, sorry if it's a repeat. just thoughts that came to my mind. ohh btw, just to add to it a little bit, she had the dvd in a small gift bag. so if you walk in walmart, quickly pull out what you have in the bag, he slap guns in and you put it back in the bag. make sure and take something about the same size, and put that in the bag. that way maybe just incase they question the guy who puts the stickers on stuff, he'd remember you because the bag, and it fit in that bag. *shrug* any comments, tips? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: A couple things: If you take the tag off and put it on something else you have two things to worry about: cameras/plainclothed security officers and what to do with the original item (the one from which you peeled the return sticker off). Making your own tags will of course be easier, but once again be careful when affixing the tag on your chosen item. Same rule of thumb for the second idea, make sure nothing/no one is watching. _________________________________________________________________________________ As far as the scam goes, you would need to follow the basic rules of "barcoding" which is the replacement of barcodes between two items one, which is an expensive model, and the other which is a cheaper model. Also, an interesting thing that I did was that about a few weeks ago, me and a few friends of mine decided to be adventurous and simply take an item off the shelf, walk back to the door, and say "sorry i brought this in for return and forgot to tell you. Mind if you sticker it for me?" Anyway, it worked, quite risky and stupid if you ask me, but it worked. Finnally, the barcoding tutorial can be found here. Many guidlines in that tutorial can be applied to this one. Barcode Tutorial: http://www.shadowcrew.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=12248 _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ For Office Max, yes, but for some place like Walmart, then it has a way larger chance of working. Most items in Office Max are bought frequently, and only a few cashiers work there. However, at some place like Walmart, most cashiers have never even rang up a 1000 dollar DVD recorder in their life. __________ good call. also something to others considering this. i talked to my friend who works for walmart and he actually said this would work. another thing he recommended to try (if you are doing the sticker method) is to test the barcode on one of those price checkers in the store. don't want to go up to the register and it either doesn't scan (cheap printer/barcode font) or the UPC just doesn't exist in the stores computer ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ K. my new scam idea [Price Match Scam] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: jackallen im in the process of working our all the details for one of my latest scams. heres the basics... make friends with someone who works at a computer store, or make an online store that "sells" computers. essentially though, all you need is a friend. go to staples or officemax (a store that will match prices) and explain to them that you saw, lets say, a digital camera at a local computer store for $75 (they hare having a half off sale). staples sells this camera for $150. They will call and verify, so give them the number to your friend. have him near the phone and instruct him to explain that they are indeed in stock. (as I said above, its good if you can do this with someone who works at a computer store since it will decrease suspicions since the staples employee will probably know about the store. another good way to pull this off by yourself is to make a website. if you print out the URL with the item description and price, they will match it. sometimes they go online and check for themselves, but typically they just check the printout. anyways, you get the $150 camera for $75. go back a week later and exchange it for $150 in credit, or sell on ebay for $130 cash. as I said, I'm still working out some details, but this is the essential process. feedback? ideas? comments? suggestions? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: good scam. ive done it myself many times and for my friends. i used to work at office max so here are some details for us: -will price match website after cost of shipping (they say after cost of next day shipping, but never seen a cashier stick to that. but if they are new, they might have to ask a manager. so just make sure that "next day" shipping shows on the print out of the site, and make it cheap. -we never verify anything. if you have a receipt, we'll change the price other than that... it's a real simple scam to do. even if you want to do it the more "legal" way (you want something NOW and it's real cheap online), find a cheap real website on www.newegg.com or www.pricewatch.com or something like that, find an item for real cheap, print up the receipt, and go to the store and buy it for the price they have. it's technically not a scam because thats how price matching works, but it's a way to get stuff for cheap from a store. edit: ohh, and before i got into talking about doing it the legal way, i was talking about if you make a fake receipt. easiest way to do it is go to a real site that everyone knows (half.com or something like that) go to the last step of the order process, copy the whole page, past it into word (a newer version that support html). put a header as the title of the website, a footer as the url of the order processing page, and just change the price. voila _________________________________________________________________________________ This scam might be a winner but i'd stick with making websites for pricematching or simply changing receipt printouts after slightly modifying the price and shipping cost. There seems to be a few too many flaws with having a real friend store employee helping you out. First you need to wonder if he will always be the one answering all of the phone calls which is rarely the case with large department stores. Second, if he doesn't answer and someone else does, the price won't match..obviously. And he would also risk losing his job. Screw getting store credit. I would think the store credit would be for the lower price anyways. You'd be best going after "in demand" items that sell good on ebay so you can use ebay to profit. hmm, I read an article a couple of years ago about this gang of scammers who did something similar. They didn't even make up fake websites or receipts. They just had a friend waiting to answer the phone. They supposedly succeeded in buying 1k computers for half the price one after another. I think I might try doing this sometime in the near future. What could happen if the store found out you were using bogus ads to pricematch? Could you get into legal trouble? ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ L. School Locker Rooms +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: UrbanSniper This "scam" is extreamly easy. After school, when all the preps are in sports, go into the school locker rooms and rob the shit out of them. I mean serioucly. People leave shit unlocked in there all the time. Just walk in, look around for unlocked lockers with shit in them, then rob the wallet, cd player, cds, anything you want. then simpily walk away. No camaras in the locker room or anything.. Just dont let anyone see you. I do this all the time, and will walk out with at least 100 bucks or more a day! I live in a smaller city, people in bigger schools could potentialy get much more! I dono, give it a try, but if you get caught, your looking at theft charges. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: one time durning gym there was another high school class ahead of us so all of there stuff was in the room. me and my buddy took: -$25 from a walet -4 subway cards ( all stamped =) ) -whole bunch of korean money (lots of asians in our school ) it turned out to be worth $2 -a pack of smokes -a pipe with lots of res and bud in it. -lots of bus passes -clear eyes and visine (from those stonners) just be careful when your doin tho. if i caught anyone stealin my shit i would litteraly beat them down. _________________________________________________________________________________ This works, and if you are caught you can always put up a fight and cry like a poor little victim to the teacher since its a big jock attempting to beat your ass down. However, you better be careful since if I caught anyone stealing my stuff, I wont be too happy. Always ask, does the ends justify the means? (yes it does...usuall _________________________________________________________________________________ A better way to brake into peoples lockers is to pick there combination lock! It is very simple just with very little practice. First find or get a Bobby pin some how(or a hairpin what have u) then file down the side that is straight. Remember to file down both sides to make the pin thinner. Don't file to much or it won't be sturdy enough to work. Once this is done go into the locker room while everyone is playin sports and find a lock that has a big enough opening on it to fit ur pick. Now the opening u are looking for is the side where the lock opens. so once u have found a lock u can put the pick in stick it in. This will push down the little lever that keeps the lock locked. Now most master lock are really hard to open if u get the pick in. But not every one has a master lock. now if u dont belive this will work buy a really really cheap lock and practice on it till u really get the hang of it. You can also just open a lock u have around the house and examen the little lever i told u about. Try pushing it down and see how to push it down. then when it is closed and u push it down with the pick it will open. Sorry if i din't explain very good but practice and get beer money! please comment if u have any better ideas!!! ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ M. Card Games [Duplicating trading cards scam] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: NPerez I was thinking..there are really high selling cards for Magic and Pokemon and all those stupid nerd games, so couldn't you get an image of them online and print them out on similar paper to the real cards, then sell them? They're a lot easier to copy than credit cards and shit cause its just a game, and some cards sell for like $200.. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: As usual, best way to see if something works is to go for it. Use a quality laser color printer (at a school, etc...), and depending on to whom you plan on selling the guards (card store, professional player, clueless newbie, etc..)you may want to stick to medium value cards so as not to raise suspicion. Post what type of paper you used/where you bought it (take a trip to your local office supplies or art store), and post some sites that have images of cards. For example, a brief search on Google turned up: http://getdetails.com/pokemon/page1.html http://www.josephspiros.com/magic/gallery.php You may also want to look on ebay... _________________________________________________________________________________ A couple sites that may sell paper suitable for printing out your 'novelty' cards: http://www.enteractive.com/Item.asp?item_id=28&refer= http://shop.store.yahoo.com/craftschannel/0819cmg05.html Who knows, these may be the perfect items to use to send to your new drop ( http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum7/HTML/003246.html ) _________________________________________________________________________________ Yes there are holograms on those cards, although not too large. On the bottom left corner of Pokemon cards there is a shiny little box that is the holo. This is on every card. Also, for this to be worth the effort, you must make those shiny holographic cards. These things look a hell lot harder than those simple ID holos that can be made with a mix of peralex and an alps. Also, on the topic of this, have you considered making Yu-Gi-Oh cards? This game is by far the most popular trading card game in my area, and the kids are more than willing to buy rare cards of Yu-Gi-Oh. However, as with the previous type of cards, these are holographic too. _________________________________________________________________________________ True, the holos are hard as hell to copy.. I'm trying to find something low-risk that a lot of money can come out of. Making ids & credit cards will put me in jail but nobody will give a fuck about a stupid pokemon card. Just thinking.. rare old baseball cards do not have holos, so couldn't u copy those?? they're worth a TON of money too... ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ N. milk crates worth a lot? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: 655321 i got some freeware game a while ago. You were a gangster rising in the ranks, and 1 thing you could do was steal crates from the train tracks (??? dunno why) now im sure this isnt something a real gangster would do, but are crates worth a decent amount of money if you get a lot or something? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: along the lines of milk crates... a local store I live near sells bottle water out of those plastic crates (4 gallons per crate). They cost 50 cents a gallon and there is no tax. If you buy 4 gallons, you you just run them all through the checkout in the crate, thus getting the crate out of the store. These crates have a $5 desposit on them, so you bring them back to the dairy place and make $3. Not too much money, but good for doing nothing... _________________________________________________________________________________ You will probably not get too much for the crates, try selling them on ebay, post garage sale type signs up offering crates for sale, possibly approach a few businesses which may need crates, etc...etc.. Also check out http://andex.net/links/woodencrates.html and do a search on ebay for 'crates.' Have fun with your crate selling venture . _________________________________________________________________________________ In Washington State, if you get caught with a milk crate it's a $500.00 fine. Sheesh, for a stinking milk crate! My buddy takes 'em anyway! Cheap storage containers! Until he gets busted! LOL _________________________________________________________________________________ yeah on the side of most of them it says misuse will be prosecuted to the extent of the law or something like that. it's even worse if you have a postal worker crate. they say it's punishable by some extreme fine and/or a year in prison. now that's rough. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ O. Regarding the Short Change Scam... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: dDIzzIEe quote: __________ The short change scam is an amazing swindle and it is the perfect exemple to show how and in which conditions a Con Artist would work. The Con Artist may look to be very respectfull, nice looking guy, like someone we can trust and he may act with a great confidence of himself after many rehearsals. This swindle usually takes place in a big supermarket where cashiers usually act mechanically. The Con Artist, with a $20 bill, buys a 98 cents item. When he pays, he is given back 2 cents, 9 bills of $1 and an other $10 bill. By leaving the store, the Con Artist comes back and kindly asks if it is possible to change all these $1 bills to a 10. If the cashier says yes, he takes a $10 and gives back 9 bills of $1, he has now 2 bills of $10... the swindle hasn't started yet. Joking, he says to the caisher to check and when she sees that one bill is missing, the swindle starts. Taking advantage of the confusion created by the noisy atmosphere of a supermarket and by other customers arriving, the Con Artist apologises and says the situation is ridiculous. As she already has $9 in her hand, he asks her if she would give him back the $20 bill, if he gives her one bill of $1 plus an other $10 bill, one of the 2 he has in nis hand, to make $20...This is called the short change swindle because as the cashier thinks the transaction is fair, she actually lost $10... With a $50 at the beginning, the cashier would have been short $20, if she had been given $100, she would have been short $40...This swindle is a classic and one of the oldest scam around. And it is important to remember that this swindle can be on either side of the counter, it can also be the cashier short changing the customer... (From "The Art of the Steal" by FW Abagnale, edited by Broadway books). __________ Would be nice if members could post their techniques/ experiences, and possibly planned dialogue scripts to use? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Ok this scam is called Twining. I was shown this by a guy in his 40s and we WERE making around $500 for just over half a days work everyday. We done this for months together and never come remotely close to being caught. We pulled off the scam slightly different to what you listed. What we done. You go in to a store and discretly watch HOW the cashier hands a customer the change. Some count it in to your hand, other just dump the money in your hand without counting it. This is the person you wish to "hit". Also the busier the shop is and the more tasks the cashier performs, ie making sandwiches etc, the easier the scam is. Buy an item under $5 and pay for it with a $50 note. The cashier will give you coins, a $5 and 2 $20 notes. Turn to walk away and slip a $20 up your sleeve, then turn back and say, excuse me but i think you have given me the wrong change, i gave you a $50. Show the cashier the money in your hand, 9 times out of ten she will say oh sorry it's been a long day and give you another $20 from the till. Just dress well, be confident and practice slipping the $20 up your sleeve in a flash. The guy who taught me to do this was that good at the sleight of hand that I had a hard time seeing him do it and i knew what he was about to do. I'm seriously not joking when i say we were making between 2- 3k per week doing this in the city. Not to mention the bags full of under $5 items. About the closest we came to being caught was when the cashier called the manager up, then we proceded to look under the counter, displays etc "incase" it was dropped. He told us to come back after 5pm when the till was balanced. We did and he said "look the till was out $9 something so i dont know what happened so here is your $20 and sorry for the inconvienence." Just practice the sleight of hand and pick your target. _________________________________________________________________________________ I would really suggest using a $50 The reason being is because you get 2 identical notes as change, 2 x $20 notes plus a $5 and it's an easy mistake for them to grab not enough $20 notes from the drawer. If you try with a $20 you will get a $10 a $5 and coin. It's just a little too hard for them to make the "mistake" of not giving you either the $10 or $5 and when you slip 1 note your only left with 1 note and coin therefore making the scam alot harder. Also don't use a $100 because it's not as common someone using a $100 bill to purchase something under $5. They tend to count the change a bit more carefully when a $100 is used. When the scam is done if you see a store where they "count" the money in to your hand, use this place to change your money back in to a $50 to continue with your next scammed store. Also don't hit the same areas too often, we used to jump a train to a different suburb every day. Seriously this isn't some dodgy rort, we DID make big money doing this, and theres very little punishment IF caught. I would be still doing this today only im in a small town and it's over a 2hr drive to the city. Plus im making enough money not to worry about this scam for now. _________________________________________________________________________________ i tried doing this on a few stores today. Everyone one counted 9 1's before handing me the 10. Giving them 20 bucks they usually give you change, 1 ten, and a five, and 4 ones, so i had 5 ones in my pocket used for the scam. But each time before handing me the bill they counted and made shure the amount was right. Any suggestions. _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ I can't see why you aren't still going this if you can make over $500.00 a day. Screw the 2 hour drive if this much money is really in it. __________ Because i make a large quantity of money per day without leaving the area. If i was out of town for the day, i would be loosing money. quote: __________ BY Streamsofwhiskey...i tried doing this on a few stores today. Everyone one counted 9 1's before handing me the 10. Giving them 20 bucks they usually give you change, 1 ten, and a five, and 4 ones, so i had 5 ones in my pocket used for the scam. But each time before handing me the bill they counted and made shure the amount was right. Any suggestions. __________ Yes don't use the original method with the $1 bills it is stupid. I am NOT JOKING when i say how much money i was making doing this scam the way i explained. And it's NOT some urban myth i heard off my cousins best mates neighbours friend. I was doing this every day for months when i lived in the city. All i can say is PRACTICE slipping a $20 out of your change and up your sleeve in a flash. Also remember you will be carrying the item you purchased in one hand and your change in the other. The faster you can do this the easier the illusion. I could turn from the counter, take ONE step, then turn back around to the cashier with my "short" change. And be confident, this will come with practice. The first few times are a bit nerve racking, just remember its not the dumbs blonde behind the counters money. After a few goes you will be laughing. _________________________________________________________________________________ I tried this scam the very next day after and made a little bit of money. I had to think fast and improvise some of the techniques. For starters, those complaining about them counting the $9 in $1's before handing you a $10 bill heres a simple solution. Make sure u have 11 $1's on you. 10 $1's in your wallet and 1 $1 in your pocket. With 1 of the 1's in your wallet write a bogus phone number on it 555-5555 or something clever. This is your setup. Hand the cashier the 10 $1's from your wallet after they count out 10 $1's they will trade you for a $10 bill, before the cashier places the money into the till say something like "Oh, I'm sorry to bother you again, I think I gave you a $1 with a phone number on it, let me trade you another $1." they will agree, this is when the magic happends take the with the take back the $1 with the number on it and trade it for the one from your pocket, as you hand the cashier the new $1 from your pocket hand them the $10 aslo and ask for a $20. as they are holding the 9 $1's still they will think it's a fair exchange and off you go $10 richer. _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ HAHA you people crack me up. So you are saying they are holding 9 x $1 And you hand them a $1 plus your $10 This means they have $20 of yours. And in return they give you a $20 You sir have just wasted 10 minutes and gained NOT A DIME. __________ Actually, I think the original idea is correct. (The thing is that the cashier can't have $20 of yours, because you only have $11 in the first place!) Here is a brief walkthrough Starting Value: $11 Amount Given to Cashier: $10....Amount Remaining in your posession: $1 Amount received back from cashier: $10......Amount in your posession now: $11 [current net gain: zero] Amount Given to Cashier: $1 Amount Gotten back from cashier: $1.....Amount in your posession now: $11 [current net gain: zero] Amount Given to Cashier: $10.....Amount remaining in your posession now: $1 [current net loss: $10] Amount Received from Cashier: $20...Amount in your posession now: $21 [net gain: $10] _________________________________________________________________________________ A nice site I just came across...http://fraudtech.bizland.com/ short_change.htm _________________________________________________________________________________ I wa sitting here for a while racking my brain as to how i could slip a bill into my sleeve. I couldn't figure it out. But I did come up with soemthing that would work well, if anyones interested. Wear a jacket, and keep it unzipped. When you walk away, hold y0our bag and money in your right hand [or left if youre left handed]. As you walk away transfer the cash to your left hand, folding the bottom bill in half with your right hand [if the 20's are on top do it with the top bill] and slip it into your jacket. Not into your pocket or anything, just inside your jacket. If you practice at home, youll notice the bill just stays there, as it has the jacket pressing agaisnt it. This is very discrete. Just thougth Ide share that. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ P. Possibly Profitable Business... [selling smoke bombs] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: WatchYourSix Well. I've had to experiment lately with smoke bombs... When I came to realize something. Making smoke bombs is rather... inexpensive. I mean, it costs about $6 for a lb bottle of "Grants Stump Remover" and you can get sugar really cheap... Or just steal lots of packets from resturants. So why not make a profit out of it? I mentioned the smoke bomb to a kid that walked by during a small test and he was like "Whoa. Thats a lot of smoke" so I told him it was home made and he seemed excited by this. He told me he'd -pay- me to make him some... Thats where the thought came from. Why not -sell- the smoke bombs? So thats why i'm posting. Any ideas of how much I should sell them, and how big they should be? I mean, I have to make a buttload of this stuff anyways... _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Nothing new At the local swap meet one can purchase a 5minute smokebomb for $5. Depending on the length of your smokebomb (the amount of time it produces smoke), the original cost put into it, etc...you can experiment with prices and see if people are willing to pay what you're offering. Also depending on what you use for casing, you may want to spraypaint the casing bright colors or the standard camo design... _________________________________________________________________________________ I've been doing this for quite some time. Hehe, when I sell them though, as I don't want any adults to know im into pyrotechnics, I make them sign a contract saying that they will not say who they bought them from if the person has intentions other than buying one. Oh, and I sell mine in square casings, about an inch by an inch, for 5 bucks a peice. I could be making way less, but I live in a small town, and I am pretty much the only one into making pryotechnic stuff. Dam, I'm making more money with all these small time scams, and selling stuff then I was making with a 16 hour a week job. Happy Trails _________________________________________________________________________________ I've been doing this for quite some time. Hehe, when I sell them though, as I don't want any adults to know im into pyrotechnics, I make them sign a contract saying that they will not say who they bought them from if the person has intentions other than buying one. Oh, and I sell mine in square casings, about an inch by an inch, for 5 bucks a peice. I could be making way less, but I live in a small town, and I am pretty much the only one into making pryotechnic stuff. Dam, I'm making more money with all these small time scams, and selling stuff then I was making with a 16 hour a week job. Happy Trails _________________________________________________________________________________ http://krimzonpyro.com/rat/smoke/kno3smoke.html But I think i've changed my mind. My friend almost burned down his friends house like a stupid ass by lighting it inside... I think i'll issue an IQ test before purhcasing! lol... ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Q. Scam Thread +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: tingtonger As there is so many small time scams, i think it would be better to just post your small scam ideas in here, instead of posting a new thread. To start them off, heres a few ebay scams i thought up (not the greates but what ever) Computer Scam Take everything out of your computer box, monitor, and speakers (if you have the knowledge to put them back together later) and go to a dump and get cases and shit from crappy or broken computers for them. Now with your empty case, put it on ebay, and describe it as a (put company name on box here) hewlett packard main computer box, and monitor, and speakers. You can add details and stuff, just make sure you don't actually say there is stuff other than the cases, otherwise you could be sued. Now sell it. Oh ya, you are probably going to get negative feedback, so as long as you don't care about that. Cd Scam Buy a case of 50 blank cd's. Now, crack 10 of the cd's. You could also just crack 10 cd's that burnt improperly and are corrupt, as long as they are the same brand. Now, send these to the cd company, and say that they were cracked when you bought them, and you would like a refund. If they ask, say you went to the store, and they said that they wouldn't give you a refund as company policy. Hopefully they will now give you coupons for free cd's. Ripped Money Scam Heres my best one yet. I recently found out that where i work, the policy is you can't take bills with more than 1/4 ripped off them. Many other stores will have the same thing. Now, all you have to do is rip the bills, and every 4 bills, you get another one. So if you have 4 50 dollar bills, you would end up with 4 3/4's of 50 dollar bills, and a full one made up of different peices. Or else you only need 3 to make a bill, so you have three quarters of the fake bill, which is acceptable. Happy Trails _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Regarding the Computer Scam: For what price do you plan on selling these boxes/casings? Do you honestly believe that people will buy the empty boxes for any reasonable value that would give you a profit over what you paid for your system in the first place? Secondly, I may be overestimating the eBay crowd, but I doubt that even the most clueless buyers would buy a 'Hewlett-Packard' with no system specs, which as you said you can't put in the item description without consequences... Of course, as I've said, I may be giving them too much credit so the best way to see if anyone 'falls for it' is to try it... Regarding the CD Scam: This can work, make sure to send the UPC and/or receipt, and as you said use other older look-a-like cds, or crack a smaller number... Regarding the Ripped Money Scam: You said that every 4 bills you get a new one and that you can also just rip 1/ 4th of 3 bills to make another bill, well in either scenario, what do you do about the middle portions? Sure ripping the end is easy, but what about the other 2 sections, wouldn't that render the other bills useless? _________________________________________________________________________________ This isn't worth a new topic, so I thought I'd put it here if anywhere... I saw a couple kids today pouring out a juice jug into the drain in the frozen foods section, they had a bottle of scotch with them, so I assume they were going to pour the alcohol into the juice jug, personally I was somewhat surprised that no one said anything, but hey something to consider for you underage drinkers... _________________________________________________________________________________ You are forgeting about my little friend tape. Just cut the middle portion out, and tape it back together leaving a space of half a centimeter. Tons of times a bill has ripped in half or something in my pocket, and I haven't had someone not accept it yet. Now, you have to understand that the people you are doing this to aren't the smartest people ever. It's not people super good at detecting fakes or anything, its your average cashier that has probably never had a lesson about catching fraud money. And that one is a good idea about the orange juice. Or maybe, some people drink stuff in the store, and then pay for a now empty container at the cash, so you could drink half, and then mix some scotch in. Regarding the computer scam, im not saying only put that it is a hewlett packard, im saying make it sound like it is something great, but when they get it, it sucks, but it still is everything you said it was. Like say it has a processor in it that can do anything it is ordered to do in under a second, and put a calculator inside the computer. A calculator is a processor, and it is inside it, and it can do almost everything you tell it to do in under a second and you could probably get a couple hundred bucks for it, depending on the quality of your lying. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ R. Scams + Making Money +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: MSW2006 Ah, just thought I'd post some stuff on how I make my money. Some of it is copied from totse, but all of the below I've tried, and have turned quite a profit from it. 1.) Shoplifting. This is one of the greater things I like to do; it turns in a shitload of cash, and is rather easy once you know where to shoplift and what to look out for. Look for my other thread on shoplifting for more shit about where to go and what to do and what not to do. Also, if you're worried about getting busted, go out back and hop into the dumpster, and look for a bag of barcodes that are already printed on, and use them whenever you feel it's convenient. It's not directly stealing, just "lowering" the price. If you don't feel like dumpster diving, just take stickers from other items in the store and use them. 2.) Dumpster diving is another good way to make some money. Hell, I got into the dumpster behind a local CD store to find some shit, and I found 13 CDs. I walked into the store with what money I had, after I collected the CDs and shoved them in my pocket, and went home. I ran them through the scratch repair thingy, and they're now scratch free. I'll have sold them all by the end of the week. 3.) "Slugging" vending machines is another thing. While it might be hard to get ahold of a whole bunch of washers (type 14 brass work as dimes) without raising suspicion, if you get them for less than a dime, they work very well at turning a profit. Simply insert them into the machine, and press the coin return. If the machine is of the preferable kind,it will give you back coins different than what you have inserted. 4.) Another vending machine thing is to find an older machine, and place a long length of tape on a dollar bill. Insert it, and wait for your credit. Press the coin return or select a soda, and pull the dollar back out. 5.) Stick a bunch of tissues way up the coin return on a vending machine. 'Nuff said. 6.) Bangbangbooty posted an idea of buying an item under five dollars for with a fifty dollar bill. The clerk gives you back some coins, singles, a five and two twenties. Step away, and stick one of the twenties up your sleeve. Inquire about the missing twenty, and you'll usually get it. Repeat at a different store each time. 7.) Do what Paranoid_Pothead said. Get Absolut vodka or Smirnoff vodka bottles, and fill them with a cheaper vodka. Resell at a high profit. See, I'm interested in a new array of easy, sly scams that'll bring in plenty of money, but bring minimal risk of getting caught. Ideas? There's some posted above. Everybody else? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: I like the idea of this thread... If only this BBS supported stickying threads. Anyway, I dug one up from way back, and edited it for spelling & grammar. Original poster: 5150 "Go to a thrift store and pick up books which are current and in good shape (no writing in them, large scratches, etc..), take a couple and go to the big chains which are killing off all the privately owned bookstores. Say you got them for presents and you already have one etc... they will give you store credit in the form of plastic. Now get anything you really want, no replies are necessary to this post. " Border's, a mainstream bookstore, has a policy of accepting books in decent/good condition for store credit (even without the receipt). This is been verified via the borders website, so this DOES work. _________________________________________________________________________________ I wrote this one as a reply to a counterfeiting post a long time ago... Somewhat out of context. __________ I was comparing a few different bills, and realized that the $1 bill had NONE of the security features of any of the other bills. No security strip inside, no color-changing ink prints, no water-mark. The only thing they had was the little red-blue fibers, which would be easy to fake/are unsignificant. I would never personally counterfeit anything due to the HEAVY punishment involved, but if I were to (hypothetically), I would just stick to 1's. The cheapest way to do it without photo-offset printing would probably be the following (or at least this is what I would do) Step 1 Get a NEW, HIGH QUALITY scanner, and some high-end imaging software (not mspaint, heh) such as Adobe Photoshop. Then I would get the image set up after scanning a crisp new bill, and touching the image up. Then I would do several weeks worth of research. Go to any sort of paper store/place where you can buy stationary, post offices, book stores, etc within a feasible distance and look for the right paper. As close as possible. Actually pick up books, open them up, and have a feel. Books are printed of different paper, and you might just find something similar. You'll never find anything exact, unless you stumble upon a company that makes linen-paper. American bills aren't paper, they're cloth/paper. Once a very close paper has been found, I would make a dye-wash, the off-color whitish/pale green color the actual paper is. I'd compare it with a real dollar bill, and make it exact (or as close as possible). Then apply it to a sheet of the selected paper. Now you should have a crisp piece of off-whitish paper that feels like a dollar bill and looks like the same color. Wait for it to dry, and stick it in a HIGH RESOLUTION ultra-printer. Print onto your dyed paper using the maximum quality settings and hope for the best. If it turns out fine, great. If it doesn't, or even if it does, I'd advise crumpling it up some. If you're unsure about it, set it and a normal dollar bill aside, out of sight for a few days. Wait for your mind to clear. Then uncover them both and do a re-comparison. If the fake bill is obvious, abort everything. Years in federal prison isn't worth the risk. That seems like a lot to do for one dollar, but after you've discovered the right method, you just do everything in bulk. Now lets say you have a nicely cut stack of counterfeit 1's in your possesion. I'm one of those paranoid people when it comes to stuff that has to do with a huge punishment, so I would probably take out a floor-board or something. Put them somewhere secret. If by some chance an authority figure is in your home, they're not going to see your fake money. You'd want them to tear your house down before they find anything. The main point: hide it WELL. Get creative. Part two: Using the money. At this point you'll have some semi-worn fake dollar bills laying around. The best thing to do is find some way to exchange it for the real deal. What I mean by that, is you need to go to somewhere where you can get 5 fake 1's exchanged into a REAL 5 dollar bill. Maybe someone you don't know too well, maybe a hot-dog stand or somewhere. Once you've exchanged (lets say 50 dollars starting out) into real 50 dollars worth of currency, you're in the clear. You can spend it anywhere. If you don't want to do that, and want to spend the money directly, I'd be very careful. Not only are older store owners/loyal employees trained to detect counterfeit bills, but they also have bill processors that sniff them out. Example: If you're at a grocery store, go through some 14 year old's line. He doesn't know counterfeit from real, and even if he somehow detected it (which wouldn't happen if you made these right), he wouldn't give a damn. ALWAYS try to spend it at registers with kids. ALWAYS. I can't stress this enough. Another method of low-risk spending would be to go during VERY busy hours. Example: a local cafe/bagel shop during lunch hours. There will be people in line everywhere, and the employees (pick the register with teenager(s)) will be looking to grab the money out of your hand and throw you your change ASAP. They hardly even look at it. And keep in mind, they shouldn't be able to tell it's counterfeit by glancing it over/counting the bills. There we have it. If you want to play it safe, I'd spend half counterfeit/half real money at the same time. I'll explain why in a moment Part 3 - Getting caught Lets say, for example, you don't properly make these and you're too ignorant to back out of this scheme. Some old bastard that owns a store finds out one of the bills you payed with is counterfeit, and pulls you aside. What do you do? WHAT do you do? Act dumb. "Excuse me, did you know this bill is counterfeit" -- your reply? "What are you talking about? Let me see it... I had no idea, how can you tell if these are counterfeit or not? I got it as change for my 10 when I went to xxxxxx store earlier today" Just make up some sort of bullshit like that. It's impossible to trace back to you. Hell if he knows how long it could've been in circulation. He knows that ANYONE could end up with a counterfeit bill. Lets say he's an unreasonable person, and accuses you of doing it. He'll ask for your name and address. You can do one of two things: 1) "Fuck this, I have no idea what you're talking about, I didn't make this bill. You have no right to that information" and walk out. He doesn't know your name, and can't do shit about it. If he tries to stop you, physically, he just did a big no-no. or 2) Give him your name and address and go home. Wipe your hard drive, and reinstall windows. Give your scanner to a friend. Burn any and all counterfeit money inside your house. Burn the paper used to make the money. Dump the dyes used to dye the paper down the sink. Chances are you'll have the FBI knocking on your doorstep within a few days. Even with small probable cause to search your house, the feds take counterfeiting SERIOUSLY. My last and most important point that has to do with getting caught (I CANNOT PUT ENOUGH EMPHASIS ON THIS) DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT TELL A-N-Y-O-N-E. Not your parents, not your girlfriend, not your best friend. Nobody. You'd be surprised how fast this can spread. I can wager that 85% of amateur counterfeiters get caught because of word-of-mouth. Resist the temptation to tell all your friends about it. When you're thinking about telling them, think about getting raped to death in federal prison. You want to keep your mouth sealed. __________ Wow, that turned out a hell of a lot longer than I thought it would be. I've never tried this, and it's all pure speculation, so think of it what you want Edit: If anyone were to try this, try to scam out the big conglomerates. Don't pick on small family-operated stores. Stick one to the man. _________________________________________________________________________________ Growing weed works great. It is very easy to do, www.overgrow.com is all you need. The equipment will cost under 200 dollars, and the seeds are around 20. You can start an entire operation and end it in less than a few months, having up to almost a pound of harvest. However, there are risks and downsides associated with this. I do not wish to discuss all the details here, but everyone that need money and want some bud to smoke should look into this. _________________________________________________________________________________ Well, you could always buy a bunch of cheap burnable CDs from Best Buy (Even on the Generic brands, you get big rebates. I got 100 blanks for $3 after rebate...) Then, don't even waste time burning anything onto them, and sell them to little hormone driven pre-pubescents saying they have 700 megs of porn. Not like they're gonna kick your ass. _________________________________________________________________________________ Don't for get when counterfeiting to put the freshly made bills into some water and then dry them in your drying machine to make them looke like used bills. _________________________________________________________________________________ boot leg cigs. IF cigarettes in your area are as expensive here in Manitoba, and you have alot of freinds with very little cash and who nic out like all the time , this is the post for you. me and some freinds do this alot at our high school , a pack fo smokes here costs average 10$, 25 cigarettes , (make sure your not a smoker, very advisable) , since almost no one ever has a pack at school due to spending money on drugs and they always have change.Sell a smoke for 1$ to anyone, and you make 25$ each pack you sell, 15$ profit for just standing on the smoke pad at break selling smokes. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ S. Possible 'Drop' Locations +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: dDIzzIEe All right, this subject matter was touched briefly upon in the Telemarketer Scam thread ( http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum7/HTML/003205.html ) but I thought it warranted a separate thread, so here goes… Either you want to purchase some goods with a stolen credit card number, or are ordering a package you’d rather not have go to your own home, some locations you may wish to consider: NOTE: Of course the techniques involved in using safe houses largely depend on what you are ordering, in other words if it can be simply left in the mailbox or by the door, or if it requires the recipient to be present at the time of delivery… -‘Safe Houses,’ or drops that do not require any identification or prior investment *An empty house. Can be spotted by the ‘for sale’ sign in the front yard, or by browsing through one of those free realtor catalogs available on nearly every street corner. It is advised that the For Sale sign is removed, however if you are receiving a large package that will not fit in the mailbox/requires a signature and thus you plan on being ‘at’ the house at the time of delivery, an excuse can be given to the delivery man along the lines of “yeah, we’re moving next month and trying to sell this ol’ heap…” *Work-time house. Can be spotted by several days of observation. A stereotypical house in suburbia where all residents are at work/not present at the time of usual mail delivery. Be sure to watch the right type of truck depending on how your package will be sent: USPS, FedEx, etc… *Residents-on-vacation house. May be a bit difficult to find, especially the length of the vacation and as thus is not too common/reliable. *Model home. Found particularly in new suburban housing developments, these are the ‘showcase homes’ that are used by realtors to show off what the new houses will look like. Can be found by looking for new freshly built housing developments and spotting one that looks like it has electricity at night/furniture. Can also be found by contacting a realtor and saying that you would like to see model homes in _____[city of choice]. -‘Risk Locations,’ or drops that require identification and/or prior investment, and as thus I generally do not recommend. *Cheap rented hotels, rented for a week or so, require identification, moderate payment, and suspicion may be raised when an address is that of a hotel. *P.O. Boxes, require identification, small payment, have cameras, and suspicion may be raised when an address is a P.O.Box. *Cheap rented rooms, either around ‘college towns’ or generally poor areas. May or may not require identification, moderate to low payment, however pose the risk of future identification based on the fact that numerous people would have seen you. If you are further interested in drop locations the shadowcrew and carderplanet forums may be worth paying a visit. Comments? Ideas? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: If you have access to friends in school, you can also send things there. Take my school for example, it is undergoing renovation, and there are office assistants(students) who sign for packages regularly that has to do with computer/classroom supplies. I know a friend who is an office assitant, and she was more than willing to sign a package for me, then take that package to a storage room where it was taken apart and placed into my backpack. Now this might not work in all cases. What I ordered was a HPS light, used for growing plants. This thing fits in with the fact that the school is getting some new security lights, and the fact that the office regularly uses students, unsupervised, to sign for, store, disassemble, and re-assemble things sent to the school. Also, note that the above could be applied to certain college campuses. Good luck with your drops. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ T. this does work,i just called a buch of food companies,lol [customer complaint scam] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: phreakybitch thanks for reminding me about this great scam dude,i just called a whole buch of food companies(the phone #s are on the website) and they were all very apologetic and are sending coupons(chef boyardee, hormel,and more)lol happy shoppin yall __________ may i add that sending hate email to resturant websites also gets you free gift certificates to all of your fav fast food places and dining joints _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: what do you say when you call? what do they ask? how do you respond? _________________________________________________________________________________ when i call a company,lets say its some sort of refridgerated food,i tell them that when i opened the package it smelled awful,rancid,and that the manager was rude and refused to give me an exchange and that i got so mad at the store that i threw the package in their trash,thus a good excuse for not having a UPC code(but only if they ask for one,dont volunteer info),keep it short and to the point. i tell them that one of the cashiers let me in on the fact that their coolers were recently malfuctioning but stocked the cold merchandise anyway,this will work great with cold meat,frozen dinners and dairy companies. as far as canned and jar foods,you can claim that you found weird looking specks and or mold when you opened it and that the manager was a dickhead and refused to exchange the item. when complaining to a resturant website they may want to know why you didnt take this complaint up with the manager at the time,you can tell them that your server insisted that he or she was busy counting cash(managers CANNOT leave their office when doing this on new or changing shifts,this is a first priority) and to leave your name and number and that no one called,you can tell them you called the resturant again to try to speak to the manager and got the same runaround and thats when you decided to complain to the big boys. some good resturant complaints is that the server screwed your order up and was rude about fixing it and then screwed it up again,your salad was limp and slimy,your food was cold and inedible,you can also rant that you over heard a waitress telling a cook or another server to spit in your food and refused to eat it,that someone smeared shit all over the bathroom wall and you got violently ill,the list goes on and on,but the unavailable manager/rude server is a great con and usually works. and to respond to clown #1 no im not hard up for cash at all,i work in the food industry and know how to get away with this,these companies have mega-insurance and can just write up their losses on next years tax returns,they could really give a shit less they just dont want the hassle,if someone is going to get free shit it might as well be me. _________________________________________________________________________________ Oh, and BTW, how does this sound for a complaint email? quote: __________ Recently I visited a Swiss Chalet [located on the Queensway, in Toronto Ontario] and was very displeased. When I first recieved my order, it was simply not what I asked for. The waitress was rude and kept telling me that WAS what I ordered. However, I know what I ordered. After waiting 10-15 minutes for another meal, it wasn't fully cooked. Though it looked cooked, when I bit into it I could taste that it was not hot as it should be. I asked to speak with the manager, but I was told he couldn't talk to me right now because he was counting money. I left my phone number on my way out [I never recieved another meal. After having it screwed up twice I was fed up.] and was told I would recieve a call from the manager. This was a week and a half ago [this occured on Wednesday March 12 '03] and I am yet to recieve a call. I would just like to say I am very mad, as I had my time wasted, I was treated badly, and I never even got to eat. And to top it off, I was blatantly lied to, in being told that I could expect a phone call. __________ I sent it to Swiss Chalet [obviously]. I used a few of phreakybitch's suggestions as you can see. So, what do you think? _________________________________________________________________________________ yeah nobody,your letter sounds very valid. they will usually email you or snailmail you with a gift certificate,you may also want to add that you are also upset that your bill was almost sixty bucks or some shit like that,happy dining. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ U. Free food from sonic +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: TreyDay Not sure exactly how this would work because I've only been thinking about this because I'm real hungry right now and want to try this. Go to Sonic and order your food. They usually hand your food to you inside your car and then expect you to give them the money. Just drive off. You'd have to back out first, but just be fast about it. Would it work? Just to make this not be a senseless post, here's a way that I HAVE TRIED and works. Order some food, and then press the button again and tell them to cancel part of the order. Usually they charge what the second order costed and give you the first order without any cancelled food. I've done this twice, but I didn't do it on purpose. Any questions? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: here is what you do,go when sonic is mad busy and use the drive thru. there is usually a pile of cars waiting for food,park as close as you can facing the exit(the drive in spots will be full but it doesent really matter,thus making a fast exit without having to back up,remember ,haul ass. if you want to get a laugh you can hand your food server a folded note to distract them and quickly say oops,im sorry the money is wrapped up my order list and take off,write something obnoxious in it like thanks for the free food dickwad or some other obnoxious shit like that. _________________________________________________________________________________ Order your food, and then when they give it to you, tell them that you're going to buy a small drink or something, then when they do back to get it, DRIVE OFF! Heheh. _________________________________________________________________________________ WTF? or you can just complain about your food and get a refund. _________________________________________________________________________________ ok the people at sonic may be too stupid to do this...but dont you think they would train their people to get your plate # as your driving off?? so wouldnt you have to do something to prevent that? _________________________________________________________________________________ or you could pay, drive off, eat the food, call there and complain like fuck, and say you asked for no onions or no salt ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ V. Complaint Letter Scam Writing Tips +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: dDIzzIEe Complaint Letter Scam Writing Tips BY: DIzzIE [c]opyleft2003 Introduction All right, I know that this is nothing new, this ‘scam’ has been going on for ages, with various variations, these are just some helpful tips on writing professional letters that will ensure good results . What? Basically the ‘scam’ simply involves writing a letter to a particular manufacturer complaining about the product you ‘purchased.’ The goal is to receive coupons for free products, or a check. While this can be applied to any consumer good, customer satisfaction being an important aspect of every company’s mission statement, experience has shown that it is most successful in ‘grocery store’ items, particularly food and personal hygiene items. All one has to do is pick a product, look at the box and find the address of the company that makes it, or simply type the product name into a search engine and check out the ‘Contact’ area of their website. Next, one proceeds to write a letter explaining how one is [was] a loyal customer but has found that the last purchased product did not meet expectations, in that it was flawed, damaged, etc… Letter Writing Tips First of all, it is always better to write a complaint letter, versus a praise letter (saying how much you liked the product), due to the fact that companies are more worried about loosing customers, and in some cases possible legal action. While the content of your letter should be obvious, here are a few pointers about that as well: *Keep it short. Two-three paragraphs will suffice, and maximum length should be one page, keep it to the point. *Start the letter off by saying that you were a loyal, long-term customer (hence increasing the value of the loss of your business in the reader’s mind) *Proceed to state exactly what the product was, for example ‘Pop Secret Extra Movie Butter 12 pack Microwavable Popcorn,’ versus just ‘Pop Secret Popcorn,’ this helps the company compensate you for a specific amount. This also leads me to another point: always go for the larger package, for example don’t just say you bought one can of ramen noodles, say that you bought a bulk 25 package. *State the irregularity found in the product, keep this reasonable, don’t go overboard. For example, it is advised that you don’t say anything extravagant like ‘there was a dead rat in my bag of cookies…’ instead say something like ‘the cookies were stale beyond consumption, the ones that weren’t were crushed…’ Basically vent your dissatisfaction. *Make it clear that you are very upset over this matter, and while you can be blunt and state that you expect a full refund, this is not necessary. As long as you express your strong dissatisfaction, you can expect either a coupon or check within two-three weeks. Also not stating a direct request for a refund will show that you are not focused on the money, just with the bad quality of the product. Sealing the deal While it is almost 100% likely that you will receive retribution without even a direct request for it, let alone a UPC code, if you want to be completely certain that you will receive a refund/coupon, include a UPC code with your letter. This can be obtained by simply going to grocery store and cutting off a pertinent UPC. Don’t just toss the UPC into the envelope, attach it to the letter with a paperclip. Formality goes a long way, and helps show your professionalism. The letter should be composed in either formal block or semi-block format. The semi-block format has the sender’s address, and date on the right side of the page, followed by a double space, and the receiver’s name and address on the left hand side, followed by a double space, a salutation (Dear, To Whom It May Concern, etc…), another double space, and then the letter body with a double space between paragraphs and a closing indented Sincerely, followed by a quadruple space, and then your name printed, with the quadruple space being where you hand-sign your name after printing. If you are enclosing a UPC code, a double space below your name, include ‘Attachment’ or ‘Enclosure.’ A formal block letter on the other hand, has everything beginning on the left hand side of the page, with no indentation. To see examples of these formats look at some letters you have received or type something along the lines of ‘business letter formats’ or ‘block format letters’ into a search engine. Also, be sure to use your real name (unless you have false identification) so you can be able to cash the check. Also, here are a few sites with their tips on Complaint Letter Writing http://www.howtocomplain.com/info/cl-template.shtml http:// www.pueblo.gsa.gov/crh/caw_afterubuy_letter.htm I hope this has provided you with some helpful pointers, best of luck . [This message has been edited by dDIzzIEe (edited 03-15-2003).] _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: I appreciate you writing this article. Perhaps you should submit it to the main site. __________ I was talking to a couple friends a little while ago about it. I remember reading a thread about it about a month ago, sparking the idea. If you write a clean, edited, grammatically correct letter with a LEGITIMATE excuse, it will work. Your cookie excuse (Horribly stale, and many crushed cookies) was perfect. An excuse that is easily possible. They will probably think "Oh, it got handled badly, or we lost track of this bag and delivered it later, thus making it old and stale". Now then, large conglomerates will take complaints seriously. And considering they would rather just send out coupons for free products (which cost them pennies to produce), or a check, then deal with losing a customer (or customers), or a lawsuit, this would work. __________ Have you ever done this? Mind posting the results? _________________________________________________________________________________ Pfft. Go for something big. Dig around some trash or something to find the UPC code for whatever you want, or any other way you can get it. If it's say a TV you can sometimes get it off the box when a neighbour buys one. (Even if you don't want it, just sell it.) Now what would be a good "defect" for an MP3 player? Broken transfer cable? Defunct hard disk? Battery shortage? Hmm... _________________________________________________________________________________ If you claim to have a broken $200 MP3 player, they will want you to send it back for free repair, or for a replacment [they can then repair it and resell it]. However, soemone I know did somethign interesting. He called up a shoe company, and said the sole on one of the shoes he just bought, ripped off. He told the lady that he went to the store to return the shoes, and they told him to call the company for a replacment. The lady said a replacment would be no problem, all he had to do was send the shoes in, and they'd send him a new pair. What he said, was that he had thrown out his old pair, and would be without shoes for like a month if he did this. He also threw in the fact that he could just not send them back for a replacement, and deal with being ripped off by the company for $200. The lady said that she could send out the replacment shoes, and he could send his torn pair back when he got the new ones. He got the shoes, and never heard from the company again. Obviously he had never bought a pair of these shoes to begin with, so never sent the torn pair back. I doubt a multi-billion dollar shoe company would goto the trouble of sueing someone over a $200 pair of shoes. _________________________________________________________________________________ A full copy of the thread can be found in the archive at: http://www.totse.com/bbs/Archives/ Archive-000009/HTML/20030316-7-003182.html ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ W. The Telemarketer Scam +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: CDG Well, its more of an idea actually. I was just thinking that perhaps from a stolen/carded/boxed phone, one can pretend to be a telemarketer, selling items or service at incredibly low prices. You would then proceeded to get the credit card information on the individual, along with full level 3 info. Im not sure on the details of this, as I said it is only an idea, and a pretty obvious one. Im suprised no one has discussed this in the past. We should compile a list of methods to get phone service, a list of what info to ask for, certain ways to sell your item, items for sale and answers to questions regarding the item for sale, and finnally, how to use the info that you got. All I can think about for now, guys try to make this good. __________ I would like to start on this myself. Phone Service: To start, you would not be able to do this beige boxing at 2AM. No telemarketer calls at that time, and your potential customers would be very annoyed. Instead, try to steal a cellphone as that is very easy to do. The second method would be to find a phone that you can redbox. Now people say those no longer exist, well trust me, they do. Once you find one, telemarket away! Then finnally, you can always get yourself a tracphone from Nokia, these are expensive to get and maintain/card, but are convienent. Well anyway, it isnt hard to get phone service. Just remember that as long as you cant be tracked back, you are safe. Easy to say, hard to do. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Well, telemarketer fraud has been around since, well telemarketers :- p, however most telemarketer scams involve an elaborate setup where a product is actually sent to the victim, albeit a very poor quality product not worth the value the victim shelled out. These types of ‘mainstream’ ‘organized’ scams are not our slice of pie, as we will be focusing on a faster approach with the simple goal of getting the victim’s money. With this in mind, lets take a look at the topics CDG outlined: I. Obtaining Phone Service Along with the aforementioned methods provided by CDG (as well as keeping in mind that legally, in the US telemarketers are only allowed to call between 8am-9pm) another idea would be to go to a posh hotel and use a phone they will often have in a side lobby or visitor ‘business office.’ Walk into the Hilton from a side door and look around… As for stealing cell phones, look around unattended purses in public areas such as parks, libraries, etc… Also if you don’t mind suffering a minor loss, you can just go to a payphone and pay for your calls, of course at 35cents per call this will add up quickly and is only suggested as a last resort if none of the other methods work… II. What Information To Ask For. This will depend on what our goal is, is it to get a credit card number, a check, or better yet our good friend Cash? I believe that although the top choice would of course be cash, the most probable one would be a credit card, and a check as a last resort as that would involve obtaining false identification and more unpleasantness. Assuming you are going for a credit card, you will need to ask fort he following information: *Type of card (Discover, MC, etc…) *Full name (as appears on card) *Card number *Expiration Date *The 4 Digit Verification Code (appearing right under the card number) III. Items For Sale What to sell? What to sell? Well, two popular items of the aforementioned ‘mainstream’ telemarketer scammers are vitamins and water purifiers. Seeing as how 60% of those succumbing to telemarketer scams are senior citizens, whatever you choose to ‘sell’ should bear that in mind. My motto being ‘temperance is a virtue,’ I wouldn’t recommend picking something extravagant like a new lawnmower, instead choose something along the lines of the vitamins and water purifiers: chocolates, illustrated bibles, American flags, etc… If calling a month or so before a holiday target the time frame: decorative wreaths, pumpkin carving kits, etc… Remember that since you don’t actually plan on delivering anything, you can pick whatever you want, keeping in mind your target audience (whether it be senior citizens or Soccer Moms). Another idea, which is also used by the mainstreamers, is charity. Instead of focusing your pitch on a specific item, focus it on a specific charity. The charity can be real or made up to sound real, such as the _____(name of your city) Coalition To Combat Leukemia. Subjects that the charity should focus on include: sick children, incurable diseases, war veterans, poverty relief, medical funding, environmental issues (such as local park clean-up), and so on… IV. Ways Of Selling Your Item, Selling Tips, and Sample Script Some general tips, followed by a sample script. * “Temperance is a virtue.” Two things you must not do: 1)Sound overly anxious/enthusiastic, 2)Ask for outrageous Amounts of Money. You must entice the victim, keeping an air of professional levity whilst holding a serious undertone. Do not push the targeted victim if he/she starts to decline the product, but maintaining a level voice, simply state that this is a limited time offer, and if it doesn’t work, move on to the next name in the phone book, plenty of fish in the proverbial sea, some will get through your net, others wont. As for the amount you ask for the ‘product’ it should range from moderately low (if your goal is to obtain a credit card), to medium (if your goal is to obtain cash). *A general value I would recommend going for is $15-$45. With charities, let it appear as if the victim can decide what amount he would like to donate, include guiding phrases like ‘most patrons donate around $20’ Here is a sample, ‘backbone’ script, in which you will be trying to get a victim to donate to a reputable charity, in this case, Youth Crisis Centre, commentary appears in brackets. Scammer: Hello, is this Mrs. Rosenburg? [name appearing in phone book] Victim: Yes, this is her. S: Hello ma’am, my name is Michael Vinsberg, I am calling today from the Youth Crisis Centre [2 things: 1) always introduce ‘yourself’ and your ‘organization,’] S: Mrs.Rosenburg, one out of every thirty children in our city is forced to go without food due to negligent parents- V: Sorry, not interested *dial tone* [expect this to happen numerous times, do not get discouraged and move onto the next name] Scammer: Hello, is this Mrs. Thurmany? Victim: Yes, this is her. S: Hello ma’am, my name is Michael Vinsberg, I am calling today from the Youth Crisis Centre, we are a nonprofit organization which provided care for children from broken drug-ruined homes. We work in association with foster homes and adoptions centers supplying medical supplies, food, clothing, and the like. As we are a nonprofit organization, our funding comes from concerned citizens such as yourself. I am calling you today to ask if you would be willing to contribute to our organization. V: How much would this donation entail? S: Ma’am, that is entirely up to you, whatever amount you can generously donate will be a great deal, as we need everything from food to medical supplies, every little bit helps, just to ballpark mot of our private citizens donate around twenty to fifty dollars. Also, allow me to mention that with your donation you will receive an honorary certificate of in recognition of your contribution to the YCC, and also become eligible for our monthly raffle for which the price is a steam cooker…Patrons of or over fifty dollars receive the book, ‘Joy: Tales of Triumph,’ a compendium of personal stories of many of our children. [Little ‘rewards’ can be sprinkled into the donation deal, perhaps mentioning the book without the $50 minimum] V: Hrmmmm… S: State regulations also require us to have a 3 day return policy, so if you change your mind for any reason your money will be returned to you, or your card not billed…As we are a nonprofit organization, there is absolutely no private gain, all our staff consists of volunteers… V: All right, I will donate fifty dollars. S: That’s great, and how would you like to submit your donation? By credit card over the phone, or by mail with a cash amount? V: I’ll pay with MasterCard right now… S: All right, and could I get you to transcribe the required information, including the shipping address… V: card number, expiration date, etc… S: On behalf of the YCC, I would like to thank you for your gratitude, and remember that should you change your mind please call us at _______ (either a bullshit number, the number of a payphone, etc…), you will receive your certificate shortly! Have a grand day. -EnD- Well, this is a simplified sample script, I’ll post some more tips on scamming techniques as well as the “answers to questions regarding the item for sale” and “how to use the info that you got” topics in a little while… And it would be useful if actual telemarketers helped us out with this __________ Posted by: bunghole I'm a telemarketer and that's basically the format we use. When you first start you might be a bit jittery but after a while you'll get into it and it'll be easy shit. _________________________________________________________________________________ Sounds good. You could also hide out near a big apartment complex, with a scanner and recorder, and wait until people order shit. If you live in a big city you will not be waiting long. You can figure out the tones with a spectrum analyzer program, or do it by ear, using an old-school continuous tone phone for reference. _________________________________________________________________________________ Regarding the subject of how to get the victim to send you cash: Setting up a P.O.Box is not recommended as that requires identification, and most post offices have cameras... An alternative would be to locate a 'safe house,' in other words a house that you feel can receive mail for you: this can be an unoccupied house, a house whose owners are on vacation for the necessary time frame, a house whose mail you can check before the owners, a ‘model home’ showed off to potential buyers but never actually bought, and so on… When giving your address to the victim (“Please mail your donation in a patterned secure envelope to…”), make sure to include the name of your ‘organization’ as the first line, to further instill the feeling of authenticity, for example: Youth Crisis Centre, Attn: Finance Division, 3405 Westernson Ln, etc… As to how to go about using the information you received (particularly credit card numbers), you may want to pay a visit to the shadowcrew and carderplanet forums for more insights, but a simple suggestion would be to order from an online merchant using a public library/ internet café computer, with the shipping address being a ‘safe house’ mentioned above. As for “answers to questions regarding the item for sale” this would of course greatly depend on the item you choose to ‘sell.’ Members can post potential questions they feel they would be unsure as to how to answer, and others can try their best to come up with plausible answers . _________________________________________________________________________________ now about the getting a PO box thing, in new zealand im sure there are cameras. but you require no id, well it doesnt ask for any on the form..not sure if they ask you when you ahnd the form in. all they require is a address + phone number, steal a mobile and get a sim card for like $20 theres your number if things turn shit destroy the sim. as for the 'safe house' im not entirely sure how it works. ive thought about it very hard over this credit card scam im developing but it seems nearly impossible in NZ to get a so called 'safehouse' - and a mail box popping up in some random vacant lot in anyones neighbour hood is suspicious _________________________________________________________________________________ One suggestion for using the credit card numbers: Goto a gas station, or something similar. Basically a place that gets a lot of daily customers, and takes credit cards. Buy something [like gas!]. Then, when you goto pay, say that you have lost your wallet, but your credit card company said you can still use the number until you get a replacement. Most of the time there will be no problem. The people will just allow you to use the number, and let you be on your way. I know soemone who has doen this before, and it works. Now you're probably wondering where the big pay off is. I mean, all you got out of it was a tank of gas. Well, CASH BACK! Make sure to ask for $200-$250 cash back. Hell, you can spend a few bucks at a payphone, get one number, and walk away with $200+ cash. Do this once a day and you're paying the rent! ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ X. Stealing Bicycles +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: dDIzzIEe Stealing Bicycles tips by: DIzzIE [c]opyleft2003 Just a few tips on a nice way to make some cash; something to do on a boring Wednesday night . What: Stealing a bicycle with the purpose of reselling (or perhaps even for personal use). Materials: *Bolt Cutters [Can be purchased for $15 at a local hardware store or stolen from a repair truck/toolshed] *A can or two of spray paint, particularly the metallic enamel spray paint variety [Once again, can be purchased for $5 from a local hardware store…Krylon is a popular brand or swiped from a garage] *Transportation to a somewhat distant city [Different state would be preferable, different town would be a minimum] Where: Well, anywhere where there are bicycles , college campuses tend to have lots of areas for bicycle parking, just make sure that you look like you belong on a college campus, and keep an eye out for security patrols. Another place would be in front of supermarkets, libraries, and so on… When: Night or at least dusk is preferable so as to make your actions less noticeable. How: Approach the bicycle stand calmly, keeping the bolt cutters inside a jacket/ trench coat, or if on a college campus, inside a backpack. If concealed in a trench coat, the bolt cutters can be secured with a rope tied around your shoulder. Three things to look 1) the most expensive looking bike, 2) the bike that doesn’t have any security, and 3) is anyone closely watching? Assuming there is a bicycle that is not secured, you will have to make a choice, judging by its appearance, if you can get a sufficient amount of money for it, or whether you want to go for the nicer, secured bike. As for secured bikes, your best bet is to go for the ones that are locked with a chain or cable, versus a U-shaped lock, as those are a bit harder to cut through with the bolt cutters. Of course, if you have the necessary locksmith skills, you can always pick the locks, but the rest of us have to resort to the brute force methods. Near the bike stand when no one else is at the stand, and casually, after noticing the target bicycle, lean down, take out the bolt cutters and cut through (the cable locks will obviously be the easiest to cut through), the chain locks may take a few tries to get a clean cut as will the U locks. Getting Away: You will then need to make another choice: do you want to just ride away on the bike or do you want to put it in a car and drive off. The advantages of the former include a more casual appearance, while at the same time risking someone noticing the bike. The advantage of the later is that you will get away from the scene of the crime faster, yet you risk getting questionable looks when you put the bike in your trunk (if it fits in the first place…). A suggestion would be to ride the bike to an alley and place it into your vehicle there, away from prying eyes. Another choice that you will have to make is whether to leave the broken lock at the bike stand, or to take it with you. Leaving it at the scene may leave unwanted finger prints, while taking it with you may involve a direct link between you and the theft should you be apprehended (although the bolt cutters would be a big link anyway). Hence, what is recommended is that you dump the broken lock into a distant trash can. Reselling: You may not even want to resell the bike but keep it as a means of transportation, but in any case, the bike should be repainted (this is where the spray paint comes in), and stripped of any identifiable characteristics: stickers, little novelty license tags, distinctive bells, etc… If you want to shell out a little more money, you can have the bike professionally powder coated. After the bicycle has been sufficiently modified, it is recommended that you wait a sufficient amount (several months) before reselling, after which you can use standard venues: asking friends, organizing a garage sale, selling at a swap meet, and so on…As well as making flyers to post locally on street corners with a phone number…You may also want to (albeit the additional risk) make a posting on various online bicycle classifieds sites (just type in ‘used bicycle classifieds’ into a search engine). You may also want to ‘strip’ the bike and sell the parts individually: pedals, seat, wheels, etc… Obviously the amount that you are selling the bike for will depend on the brand/type of bicycle that you got, and once again you can check the retail price online and set your own price accordingly. Even after the cost of spray paint, bolt cutters, and transportation is subtracted, you should still make a pretty good profit . _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: You missed one huge step. You have to scrape off(or atleast make it unreadable) the serial number which is usually on the bottom of the frame in the middle of where your crank sits. Spray paint won;t help cover it since its engraved. If you don;t take care of the number and the kid had the number written down or registered with the police station, you;ll be screwd if your seen trying to sell it or if your rididng it _________________________________________________________________________________ *slaps forehead* Yes, you are absolutely correct, you should render the serial unreadable (filing it down perhaps), the only downfall is that if a careful potential buyer notices that a serial number has been tampered with he will suspect that the bike has been stolen (whether he'll care or not is another question), while on the other hand, if the serial number is intact he will not know that the bike has been stolen, and so no suspicion has been raised... Yet experience has shown that few people look at the serial number in the first place... ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Y. VENDING MACHINE COIN SCAM +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: blade20 ok i see alot of stuff about stuffing the coin return wih tissue's.. pretty good idea but you have to stuff a ton in there to make it tight, then it takes for ever to try to poke it out with wires and crap.. HERE IS HOW TO DO THIS QUICK AND EASY __________ 1, GET YOUR HANDS ON SOME FOAM SEALER (CHEAP) YOU CAN GET IT PRETTY MUCH ANY WHERE. 2, YOU NEED A COAT HANGER OR ANY TYPE OF STRONG WIRE. 3, YOU NEED TO GET A HOSE TO ATTACH TO THE FOAM SEALER (I USE THE HOSE OFF THE FIX-A-FLAT STUFF) 4, YOU CAN QUICKLY WALK UP TO A VENDING MACHINE PUT THE HOSE UP THE COIN RETURN SLOT AND GIVE A 2 SECOND SQUEEZE. 5, YOU ARE GOING TO WANT TO TAKE THE COAT HANGER AND BEND UP SO YOU CAN PUT THAT UP THE COIN RETURN ALSO, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE STUCK THE HOSE UP FAR ENOUGH SO IT DOESNT FOAM INTO THE COIN DROP PART, AND GIVE YOUR SELF ENOUGH ROOM SO YOU CAN LEAVE A PIECE OF THE WIRE STICKING OUT SO THAT YOU CAN GET YOUR HANDS ON IT.. 6, THE FOAM WILL BE STRONG ENOUGH TO HOLD 2 WEEKS WORTH OF COINS, WHEN YOU COLLECT GIVE THE WIRE A STRONG, STEADY PULL AND IT WILL SLIDE OUT.. IF YOU PUT TO MUCH FOAM UP THE SLOT IT WONT COME OUT ALL TOGETHER, YOU WILL HAVE TO PULL IT DOWN AND BRAKE IT UP WITH YOUR FINGERS.. 8, CONGRADULATIONS YOU HAVE JUST PULLED OFF A VERY EASY, AND QUICK SCAM. HIT A COUPLE VENDING MACHINES A NIGHT.. ROTATE FROM VENDING MACHINE TO VENDING MACHINE, IF YOU ARE DOING THIS TO THE SAME MACHINE YOU WILL BE CAUGHT. ****QUICK HINTS**** - MAKE SURE TO MAKE THE WIRE STRONG SO WHEN YOU PULL IT, IT WILL PULL THE SEALER WITH IT.. I MAKE A CROSS TYPE SYMBOL WITH IT AND STICK IT IN THE SLOT, I ALSO LEAVE A LITTE HOOP FOR ME TO PULL ON.. SIDE VIEW TOP VIEW ___ ___ \ / \ / \ / \ / \/ } || / \ -- / \ THIS ISNT ONE OF THEM POST'S OF WILL THIS WORK? IT DOES WORK!! I USE IT AND FIGURE I WOULD LET PEOPLE IN ON IT.. SO HAVE FUN AND GET SOME CHANGE.. __________ OK ITS CALLED FOAMSEALER.. NOT CAULK, NOT GLUE, NOT CEMENT.. ITS A PETTY HARD FOAM WHEN IT DRIES.. IT EXPANDS IN TE COIN RETURN SLOT AND WEDGES IN THERE.. IT WILL COME OUT, JUST MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A COATHANGER IN THERE REAL GOOD.. BEND IT ALL UP IN THERE SO THE FOAM SEALER FOAMS AROUND IT.. IT WILL COME OUT TRUST, ME I HAVE DONE THIS... _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: I havn't tried this and i have no reason to try. But i have used expanding gap fillers for lots of tasks and the shit sticks like glue. I really can't see it pulling out via a piece of wire real well. The large surface area it's adhered in the coin slot would make it difficult to remove remotely intact. But if you have tried this and it works then i will believe you. The first time i used this stuff was filling cavities during a car audio setup and i neglected to follow the part that said, use gloves and avoid skin contact. Shit that stuff is hard to get off. I have also used it to dampen the sound from an alarm box and it does a fairly good job of keeping the sucker quiet. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Z. Free Gas???? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: clickergod i havent tried this but im wanting some thought on this ive been thinking of ways to get free gas but look like im just buying it from the pumps knowing you can only get gas when the pumps been activated ive been trying to think of ways to get around that and came to a conclution THE PLAN set up a pump in your car thats the same power as the pump at the gas station have a hose just big enough for the gas nossle from the pump to slide into and create a good seal as not to leak now in my town theres a small gas station thing that you can only buy gas with a credit card SO i say go to this gas station at night and turn on the pump and set up your system and turn on your pump and pump your set lets say $2.00 in gas now in theory the pump you have set up in your car will keep the gas pump running since its the same power or stonger then the gas pump so what do you think is it worth a try? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: just siphon gas from cars in the parking lots. gas stations have surveillance cameras and will get your license plate number. _________________________________________________________________________________ and another thing......they monitor the amount of gallons you put in the tank so that would make it so that you would need to fill the tank in the car with gas when the gas is in gallons which means its gonna be alot of gallons...thus making it just more money _________________________________________________________________________________ No it won't work. I won't go in to great explanation but the gas pump in the bowser has a strong shut off valve for safety reasons. If you try attaching a pump to the nozzle and the bowsers internal pump is operating, you may pump the gas quicker but it will still register on the total price of the gas. If the internal pump is NOT operating, the vacume of your pump will do nothing to pump the gas, if anything you might damage the regulator. The easiest way of stealing gas is to go to the hole in the ground where the tanker fills the underground tanks and pump from there. You may have to pick or cut a padlock with bolt cutters. If you can pick it all the better, you can lock it back up when finished and go back another time. _________________________________________________________________________________ Firstly it is highly unusual for a gas pump to be not manned by a person. The USA might be different but there are strict Occupational Safety and Hazardous Material laws for commercial gas outlets. They require a universal shut off near the console in case of emergency. If it's unmanned they must have an automated system which i don't have any knowledge on. Also if it is unmanned they most likely have a surveillance loop cameras. If you "hotwired" the bowser, it would still register the sale ie. How many litres were pumped and the price. You can't really extract fuel and bypass this. I would forget about the bowsers unless you have a stolen credit card and a fake set of licence plates. As i said before, the best way to obtain the gas is from where the truck fills the underground tanks. Inside the the covers it WILL list the fuel type, ie Diesil, Unleadded, Premium etc. They have to list it for emergency purposes and also think about the retarded truck driver who delivers to multiple outlets. It will be listed to avoid diesil being pumped in the unleaded by mistake ruining the whole tank. Get an automotive pump thats runs off the cigarette lighter socket, 15 feet of garden hose and pop those covers. _________________________________________________________________________________ I agree with bang's idea, and would just like to add that certain gas stations here have gotten smarter about people poping those covers. No, not to steal gas, rather vandals that pour water and other contaminants down there. If you find more security than what bangbangbooty described, you are better off looking for another place. I would also like to second that the original idea would not work. Why it doesnt work I'm too damn lazy to look up because I really dont know too much, but I know for sure it won't due to the fact that the possibility of such a task would require the station to violate numerous safety requirements. _________________________________________________________________________________ what if you park a vehicle with a sort of "trap door" in the bottom of the floor over the tanks cover? unscrew the lid and drop a hose down connected to a pump in the car? I've seen it done in movies and TV shows, and since you can believe everything you see in the movies, you should be able to do this... _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ I agree with bang's idea, and would just like to add that certain gas stations here have gotten smarter about people poping those covers. No, not to steal gas, rather vandals that pour water and other contaminants down there. If you find more security than what bangbangbooty described, you are better off looking for another place. __________ Yeah the covers will be locked, it's not as easy as just helping yourself to free quantities of gas. I mentioned a bit about the security but not alot because everywhere will be slightly different. quote: __________ You may have to pick or cut a padlock with bolt cutters. If you can pick it all the better, you can lock it back up when finished and go back another time. __________ There are a few 24hr stations around here with NO locks on the tanks and the console operator can't see you. But yes i agree it's certainly not the best method for getting free gas, but if you want to jack it from an unmanned gas station this would be about the best way of doing it. _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ the idea on just dropping a hose into the tank is infact a very good idea but you would have to have one hell of a pump in oder to get like a full tank of gas in what 5 minutes at the most i mean you can only leave a car parked in the wierdest spot for so long anyone got any more ideas with the way gas prices are getting i think we all could use the ideas __________ while it won't get you free gas, it will save you money... pay with a roll of quarters (36 US/4 CAN). It will save you about 5% if my calcaultions are correct (which they normally arent). If you prefer a safer method, you can obtain a credit card branded with a gasoline company. i have a Exxon Mobil MasterCard www.getgasrebates.com which earns me 3% back in gas on gas purchases and 1% back on all other transactions. There are a few other companies with similar offers... _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ Your gonna need something with more punch than a puny 12v pump to get any decent amount of gas out of the tanks anyway. __________ Really? The first one i found on a search http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-pumps-water/12-volt-water-pumps.htm It does over 3 Gallons or 10 Litres per minute at 12v. Mine does more and it's also intrinsically safe. I could fill my tank in around 4 minutes. So do you care to retract your last statement? Oh and due to some people not grasping things real quick, intrinsically safe means a device is fine to use around flammables. I would advise this if using pumps on petrol, but heh what would i know, this diploma in public safety and emergency management means nothing. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ AA. Travel Scams and Rip-Offs Continued +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: dDIzzIEe Got the chance to see the show again (this time from the beginning), so here's a summary of the first half: [My summary of the second half of Discovery Channel's Travel Scams & Rip-offs is here: http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum7/HTML/003112.html ] *Nightclubs are hotbeds for property theft...(similarly to casinos I guess). An accomplice is used to distract a solitary female with flirtatious conversation, while another accomplice carefully swipes her unattended purse while she is distracted *Cab Driver Scams. Cab drivers can easily take advantage of naive travellers by taking them on elongated routes to hotels/other places that would normally take, say five minutes to get to, but with the cab driver's unique route more like 30minutes, thus letting the meter run up to a large sum... Another cab driver scam was to fabricate a bogus surcharge, the line used in the programme example was something like 'Yeah the airport has a $10 surcharge...' On a sidenote, you may be able to offer 'low rate' cab fare to travellers without actually having a licensed cab. Just approach people in need of a ride... And Finally, here are two more street scams that were discussed: *The Bait and Switch. In this scam a street vendor offers a cheap good (in the show example it was a digital camera for $25). Once a gullible buyer takes the lure, the seller then proceeds to place the camera in a box, then in a bag. Holding the bag, the seller ingages the buyer in conversation ("So what type of computer do you have to hook this thing up to..."). While this smalltalk is going on, an accomplice from behind the stand/wall/etc... carefully takes the bag holding the camera out of the seller's loose hanging hand, and replaces it with an identical bag/box with one catch...the camera is replaced with a brick of equal weight. The seller, as the conversation draws to a close, hands the bag over to the unsuspecting buyer who walks off with his $20 brick . Going back to the pick pocketing schemes, *It is an interesting idea to put up an official sign in the middle/on the side of a busy street which says 'BEWARE OF PICKPOCKETS' This sign, taking advantage of the human psyche, prompts the passerby's to feel the pockets where they have their valuables, so as to reassure themselves that they haven't been pickpocketed. Of course, this lets the observing pick pocketer see exactly WHERE the passerby's have their wallet.... __________ One last thing: This upcoming Sunday (03/09) there will be a show (once again on the Discovery Channel) titled 'Vegas Cheaters Exposed' at 8:00PM US EST, which might be worth watching ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ BB. Blackmailing Stores For Profit +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: bpyle As I was reading a previous post in the forum, I thought of a way to make tons of easy cash blackmailing retailers. The idea is to find someone under 18 years of age who looks much older than they really are. Basically, the idea is to get the minor to purchase booze or tobacco while being recorded on video. Once you are successful, you will have a recording of a minor purchasing tobacco or alcohol. You then enter the store with your partner and the video tape and tell them you'll give up the tape if they give you some cash. I would say $100.00+ would be fine. You could even have a mini player with you and play the tape right in their face. I heard that stores can lose their tobacco and/or their alcohol license if they are caught selling to minors. The cashier will also lose his/her job. I see no reason why they would refuse to pay $100.00+ to save their ass. I see no reason why this wouldn't work except that it might be illegal but the retailer would be getting in the most trouble anyways. The idea popped in my head while reading a post from confuzious. Here is the orignal post by him. "I found a better way to get booze while being underage. I live maybe 500 feet from a liqour store. The clerks all KNOW that i'm underage, they know I have a novelty ID, they know that I just replace it every time I lose one or it gets taken. They know what these novelty IDs look like, so many people have used them there. They just won't work there. But it's so damn convenient. So I had an idea. I borrowed a buddy's video camera, and called up one of my friends who is 19, but looks over 21. We set up the camera, and had him buy. Sure enough, they didn't card him. Now he passed a note to the liqour store clerk, that said: "congratulations, you've just sold to a minor on videotape. Anyone who comes into the store and buys both starbursts and a snickers bar with their booze, don't card them, and this videotape will stay with me." Now that guy (who's working almost all the time) doesn't card anybody that buys both a snickers bar and starbursts with their booze. I REALLY hate age laws..." _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: The only problem with the blackmail part(if you are in the US I don't know about anywhere else) is that you really can pull that off with mom and pop shops or really gullible chain store managers. The underage thing poses a problem. You see, if its an employee and the employer calls the cops, the employer usually won't get in trouble. They will fire the employee, the employee will have to pay the ticket, and when they call the cops and you stick around, you will get a ticket too. I used to manage a grocery store and somebody tried that on me. End result= -1 employee, punk went to jail for blackmail and being a minor in posession, and I got the beer back plus kept the kids money. I suggest if you do this you confront the employee who did it, after he/she gets off work. And don't let the manager know whats going on. _________________________________________________________________________________ Blackmail is a Felony in the USA, current extortion statues can get you 10-20 years. Liquor licenses cost a shit load in some cases municipalitys won't issue anymore, you have to buy one off another business. So you are really fucking with someone's life they might just kill you or vegetablize yah, a store that sells to minors is most likely just a front for other illegal activity. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CC. Taking Advantage of Store Sales for Profit +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: bpyle Every once in a while, a retail chain will have a great sale on items such as new dvd movies. Usually these sales are so good that they will be sold out within 3 days. Like for example, when the last star wars dvd first came out, it was on sale for 9.99 at toys r rus. The DVD was selling like hot cakes on ebay for $14-17.00. This is how the method works. First you will need a lot of money to buy a ton of dvds when the sale first starts. Most stores have a price match policy. You just drive at any store you can find which sells the dvd and show them the sale flyer and tell them to price match it. Assuming you have enough money, if you work hard at this for 3 days, you will end up with 100's of DVDs that you bought for 9.99. Keep doing this until you either run out of money, or the stores run out of stock. Once you are done buying, it's time to resale them right away. If you have enough money and transportastion, you can easily make over $1000 in a week. Edit: I was just thinking you could even make up a fake flyer from a not so popular chain. Simply set up a 1-800 line and while your friend stars near the phone, you are out scamming. You would put the 1-800 number on the flyer. You then get stores to pricematch for the sale items listed on the flyer you either made or edited.You could do this with just about any item. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: I was thinking something along the lines of a DVD scam, like the ones in those magazines where you get the 49 cent DVDs or whatever, but those ads have the catch of having to buy extra DVDs at full price eventually. So what I just do is buy five 49 cent DVDs, and pay the shipping and handling, and they'll send them to me at a BS address that's actually my drop location. I pick up the DVDs, take them to the local CD/Game Exchange (popular store in SE Ohio, actually) and that's that, I usually end up $30-$40 profit, and I'll end up doing this about once a week. Damned fools never learn. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DD. Small Money Making Scams? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: Tankerguy Does anyone know any small money making scams, they have done, thought of or anything like that? if so please post. thanks _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Burn and sell ps2 games. Works like a charm in school because most people don't want to spend 50-80 bucks on a new ps2 game when they can get it for 20-30 bucks. _________________________________________________________________________________ WHy not pull the Canadian quarter scam like jackallen mentioned a while back? For every 7 American dollars you take to canada, they'll give you nine dollars canadian (I figured this one out earlier using prices on the backs of books)...basic idea...take your X multiple of seven to Canada, exchange it for canadian quarters or dimes, spend the quarters in VMs and collect american quarters, and use the dimes from 1996-2000 in coinstar machines... _________________________________________________________________________________ if you live in a tourist heavy are like Washington DC or NY thn get a shitload of those free things to do pamphlets and then see them to ppl getting off the tour bus for 2 to 3 dollars each _________________________________________________________________________________ You could always join http://partners.thepickshop.com _________________________________________________________________________________ i know a great idea( i diddnt think of it, someone told me about it). all you need is a roll of quarters, so you can get a feel of the weight, some sand or something that will creat enough weight and some paper quarter rolls. first put one quarter all the way at one side. then fill it tightly with sand, which should create enough weight to simulate quarters. if not, use cement or something else that is cheap. then put a quarter on the end. now you will have a quarter on each end so theyll think its full of quarters, but its only 50 cents. i cant remember, but i think there is 20 bucks in a roll of quarters, so you just made approximately $19.50 per roll. take about 10-20 of these rolls to a bank. instant cash. BOOYA! i dunno, i just wanted to type the word booya. heh. booyah. dont trust me on this though, i havnt tried it. my friend said he did it and made almost 400 dollars by using 20 rolls of "quarters" at a bank. i trust him, but this is at your won risk. if you get cought somehow, your screwed. _________________________________________________________________________________ If you want fast cash, heres how u do it. Just go to kmart or giant or any other big store and look for receipts on the ground. once u find one, locate the most expensive item on the list and go in the store, get it, then walk 2 the front and return the item, just like u bought it. they will give u cash for it. u can even do this with receipts that u have at home that u actually bought stuff w/. just go 2 the store and return somethin. this has always worked 4 me. _________________________________________________________________________________ I was thinking that you could go on ebay and find items listed on the receipt you found then buy them. Since you can buy certain items for a lot cheaper on ebay, you can return the item and make a decent profit. This is definitely the safest way to do this. I don't think you could really get into trouble doing this. Another scam I just thought of: I just thought of a good way to save money. First you go on ebay and find a certain item that is selling for a lot cheaper than walmart wants. 2: buy the item 3: Return the item at walmart. Most of the time they will give you store credit if you don't have a receipt. 3: Use the store credit to buy items that are hard to find cheap like cigs and alcohol. This would work but i'm not sure if it would be worth the hassle. I think that electronics would work good for this scam. I noticed that many of the electronics at walmart cost way more than ebay. _________________________________________________________________________________ heres an idea..... me and my brother went to Meijers one day and were lookin at the sporting good section. Its right by the doors and the doors do not have Censors. We pocketed 100 dollar binoculars, and stuffed 120 dollar baseball bats down our pant legs (we wore real baggy pants). Then we went to the next Meijers 2 cities over and returned them. We got in store credit since we didnt have a reciept. We got some shit for the amount we got on our in store credit and got the reciept for our items. We returned them later in the week and got straight up cash back. Its priceless, the greatest and funnest way of scamming, in my oppinion... Or just smash a car window, steal the radio and other belongings, and run home. Pawn that shit, get money.....easy. _________________________________________________________________________________ You know how sometimes construction sites have these large spools of wire sitting around? This stuff is worth lots of money if it's the right kind of wire. You want solid copper wire. Simply steal the spool, gut down the rubber and sell it for scrap copper. I know someone who did this and made over $1000 just from 2 spools. EDIT: Don't forget to steal any valuable tools while you are at it. Contractor grade tools sell good on ebay. _________________________________________________________________________________ stuffing rolls of coins with anything other than coins is stupid and you will get caught. they do have cameras, remember, and most banks will not take coins unless you have an account with them. my coin scam is the most profitable thing ive done aside from selling lockpicks. it takes a while to find places to get rid of them, but once you have the locations down, you can bring in $1000 or so at coinstar machines each month alone. not too much money, but great for extra spending cash to suplement a normal "job"... ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ EE. Fast, easy, free money. [Picking up Drive-Thru Change] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: Ironz Yesterday I decided to treat my mom to a meal at Jimboy's. We went through the drive-thru, and as I was recieving my change back, the cashier dropped several coins. There was no one behind me, so I opened the door to retrieve my change, when I noticed a lot more laying around. I picked up all the dimes, nickels, and quarters. I did a count when I got home and recieved $4.35 total. That payed for half of the Jimboy's meal itself. I had a hunch, and decided to drive around to all the local drive-thru fast food resturants. From six different places, I found over $20. And this is just one night. It took less than an hour. The downside? Some coins get grease, oil, and food on them. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Throw a party and have the chiars or couch coushins set low. AT THE END youll find more change! _________________________________________________________________________________ I have done something like this during school when I forget money for lunch. I would just look around the floor and find about a dollar or then I would look in the vending machines to see if anyone left their change in the money return. This way I don;t have to pay for my lunch, Which is very expensive at my school. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FF. Travel Scams & Rip-offs {Discovery Channel show summary} +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: dDIzzIEe Last Monday (03/03), there was a television programme on the Discovery Channel about Travel Scams/Rip-offs (particularly in the Las Vegas area). I only caught the second half hour of the show, and haven't had the chance to post a couple highlights until now, but here it is...a few interesting techniques discussed on the show. *The Fanny Pack Pick Pocket Technique was really ingenious. Naturally, this scam targets tourists with fanny packs hung around their waists, walking on busy streets. The pickpocket stands in the street, perhaps in front of a building, posing as a survey taker, with a clipboard . The pickpocket, upon spotting a tourist with a fanny pack walking along the sidewalk towards him, approaches the tourist and tells him that he is conducting some survey, or perhaps a contest for free car giveaway, etc... There are three objectives: 1)Obviously, to get the victim's attention, aka actually getting him to stop. 2) Holding the clipboard up close to the victim's face, so as to obstruct his view of his fanny pack 3)While holding the clipboard with one hand and talking/distracting the victim, the pick pocket uses his second (free) hand to slide open the zipper of the fanny pack and quietly take out the valuables, and ideally dissapear into the crowd. *Another demonstration that caught my eye was basically your standard pick pocketing operation...with a distraction/pickpocketing, but what was interesting was the elaborateness of the scheme. Basically, an accomplice of the pickpocket poses as a street performer (a street magician on the show), but the main point is to 1) create a distraction, and 2)draw a medium sized group of people together. While the accomplice is thus distracting the audience, the pickpocket subtly takes whatever he can slip out of people's purses, bags, backpacks, etc... Of course, it is not necessary to have the street performer in on it, one can simply take advantage of the crowds drawn by a legitimate perfomer. Or, particularly in Las Vegas, outdoor night shows, such as the various spectacles numerous hotels put on, are an ideal time for the pick pocket: darkness, loud noises, lots of people... Moving on to the inside of the Casino.... *Quarter Cup Casino Scam: This scam requires two people, and is conducted as follows: A solitary slots player is spotted with a full cup of quarters. An accomplice subtly drops a quarter and calls it to the attention of the avid slots player, "Excuse me, ma'am, I think you dropped a quarter." The accomplice then walks off, and while the slots player bends down to retrieve the fallen coin, the other accomplice, coming up from behind the person bending over, simply takes the cup full of quarters, and departs rather quickly... *Stealing Chips: A basic swiping of chips, in which the thief comes up to a blackjack table or such, with a coat hanging over one arm, leaning slightly over the table, in close proximity to another player's chips. With nimble fingertips reaching out from under the coat hanging over the arm, the thief swipes a few chips at a time, and then moves on to another table... *Stealing Purses: Basically the same idea as stealing chips, except this time an unminded purse sitting on an empty chair next to an enthralled gambler is slyly stolen... Personally, I would recommend leaving the casino immediately after one of the above acts, because there are cameras/ plainclothes officers in casinos. Finally, a scam which sometimes manifests itself (wasn't talked about on the tv programme) is when you are watching a show and a member of the audience (particularly female) gets asked to come on stage (as oft happens in Las Vegas magic shows). She will undoubtedly leave her purse behind, and as long as she is alone with no spouse....simply take the purse and exit the dark showroom. Also, as I watched this 4days ago my memory may be a bit fuzzy, and in case someone here watched the first half hour I would appreciate a posting of a summary of that portion Finally, here are a few links regarding Traveller scams: http://www.ourreallybigadventure.com/Beforegoing/scam.html http://www.ago.state.mo.us/travel.htm http://www.travelaei.com/travel_scams.htm and http://www.nolo.com/lawcenter/ency/articl e.cfm/objectid/AF821737-3F33-4667- B6D9EF2A30DD814D/catID/6DC6B659-2F78-4D1B-92E624900C43F3D0 ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GG. Dumpster Diving +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: Ironz Do you guys go dumpster diving at all? Have any links about how to do it? What kinds of places do you dive at? What do you look for? Do you dive for food? I went diving the other day at the back of a thrift store and picked up a couple computers which work fine, but they're over twenty years old. IBM 3270 mainframe terminals. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: A personal favourite is diving in the recyclables dumpster behind bookstores...boxes of magazines and books (all with the covers torn off). Another place includes the recyclables dumpster behind Music/video stores, they often have old giant cardboard pinups, which can then be resold at a swap meet for a modest income... _________________________________________________________________________________ i wrote a simple how too in DIY. yes i know in the title of the post its DYI. http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum20/HTML/000306.html i like to go to radio shack. they got some neato stuff in there. in fact after i write this post im going. i like to find cables or displays. heres a secret, well not realy a secret but not alot of people know. if the cost of the repacking is more than the item is worth they toss it. like say joe shmoe comes in and buys a cheap pair of head phones for 5 bucks. he dosnt like it and takes it back. now to radio shack, they apply the equation. if A, the price of the item is more than B, the price of the restock they C, toss it. so the majority of times u find loads of cords, diskets, displays and shit. places like comp USA throw out entire monitors and printers. ive got a 50 dollar power base that ive been using for years. its only got a small crack in it. ive gotten from just comp USA, a monitor, a printer, a scanner, 2 mice, software, cables, a huge flight sim controler, and much more other trivial stuff. _________________________________________________________________________________ Dumpster diving iz one of mine favorite pasttimes, been doing it for years. You never know what you may find- over the years i'd found books, furniture, unopened food, booze,smokes, clothes, TV's, credit reports, a gun (serious- i got rid of it being it's New York and all), etc. Surprised I haven't found a body yet! Can't wait until spring break then all the rich college kids throw all their stuff. Always get computers too and the dumbasses are too dense to even erase their hard drives!! Happy hunting, there's gold in them dumpsters! _________________________________________________________________________________ This is a fairly good idea. I used to do a similar thing with beer bottles. Since here in Michigan the bottle deposit is .10 and in Indiana there is no deposit but the barcodes and bottle appearance is exactly the same. Since I live only about an hour from the Indiana border. I would once in a while when I was broke drive to Indiana and load my car up with beer bottles and return them at various stores here in Michigan. After the gas expense, I would profit about $50 for only a few hours worth of work. I don't do this anymore since i'm an adult and can make more money now but this is a good idea if you are a poor teen looking for some quick extra cash and you have transportation. The best places to loot bottles in non bottle deposit states are bar dumpsters. They were literally filled up with bottles. Michigan also recently passed a law making this a crime. One tip if you do decide to loot dumpsters. Make sure not to loot dumsters where there is a likelyhood of biohazardous materials. It would suck to get poked with an AIDS infected needle while looting dumpsters. _________________________________________________________________________________ Apparently I should clarify something for some of you. It is important to clean up the mess you made while diving. Storekeepers don't mind if you leave evrything how it was when you came. But when shit is all over the place, they get pissed. A RadioShack manager found me diving and told me this. _________________________________________________________________________________ Idea! *ping* Buy something you want, then return it. Browse around the dumpsters every night for about a week and it just might be there! If not, it didn't cost a penny and there's nothing suspicious about returning something. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ HH. How to Sell and Copy Games +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: tH3_bR00kMaN What you will need: 1. A DVD writer that writes DVD-R/DVD-RW format discs!!! 2. A computer that can handle it (P-3 at about 500 or so mhz with 128 ram should keep you safe but you can go lower) 3. Alcohol 120% and Fargo 4. About 450$+ to buy the drive and some DVDs (they are expensive) and to rent the games 5. A membership to blockbuster or somewhere else you can rent the games from, or a broadband connection 6. Alot of free time 7. Some freinds that are in school and can front you the money (they will sell them for more than they paid you) 8. A hard drive with at least 4.7 GB free space Ok, now that you know what you need here's how to do it: go out and get a dvd writer (the new phillips internal is best so far) and buy some dvds, bulk is definatly best and make sure they are dvd-r and can be writen at 4x speed! Install it download alcohol and fargo. If you own a playstation2 or sexbox try copying your first disc from your dvd writer to your hard drive and then patching the file with fargo and then burning it. If that worked your good to go, if not you just wasted alot of money. I would go into further detail but i have to go get drunk and party at this girls house soon but it really isent that hard and you should be doing some additional research also. Ok anyways find some close freinds that have some cash and that you trust. explain to them what they need to do and make them front you the money for the games-ALWAYS. Start at around 17$ per game and shortly after that go down to 15$ or slightly lower, as they will soon be asking you to lower the price so they can make more money (Belive it or not they will be able to sell some for as much as 30$!) How not to get caught: Tell them not to reveal that you are the one doing all this. if you want to be really safe sell them through one more person and have him distribute them to the sellers so if somthing does happen you can back out and trash all your stuff and format your hard drive before the heat gets to you, if somthing like this does happen chances are you will get caught though if you are around in school while selling. If you are still under 18 you dont have much to worry about so make the best of it. Do not sell them yourself. Do not get lazy, remember that a big ass fine and confiscation of your machine and probly time in county are right around the corner if you get lazy and dont take precautions and keep close tabs on people involved and keep your eyes open and know who is buying the games. dont let things get out of control and take it slow. thats about all i can think of for now, if you disagree with this by all means tell me why, if you have experience in this and i missed somthing tell me. If you are sick of companys trying to get games out before xmas instead of finish them (you remember the "cant save" glitch in that racing game a while back) definatly cheak out world media protest day, Recdude made a text for it- http://www.totse.com/en/media/the_media_industrial_complex/ worldmediaprotest168361.html , and the thread for it is in generalities. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: quote: __________ What do you mean, by not selling your self? Well yes it is illegal, how would you possibly get caught? For all they know, you are making backup discs for your frineds, who told you they had the original CD, they just wanted a copy so it wouldn't get scratched.. why all the secrecy? making and selling acid, I wouldnt want that connected to me.. but burning games? __________ I meant not selling them directly to the people who will be playing them. Why all the secrecy? You would be ingrorant not to see how big something like this could get. once you get enough money you could buy more equipment and turn out more and more games. at 15& a game why would someone want to but it in a store for 60$?? On How not to get cought I was saying how to be as safe as posible. Oh yeah and trust me, that "back-up copy" shit doesent work. _________________________________________________________________________________ You need a modchip to play playstation2 games and xbox games.However, playstation games and pc games are the way to go...and divx.You can also sell divx dvd rips.That's a good way to get the money for a dvd burner.Search on google for gordian knot for the program to do that.. _________________________________________________________________________________ Well, if you are *really* into it, I suppose secrecy would be helpful. but I didn't get the impression you were starting a big counterfitting factory in your basement. I sort of thought that you would just burn one or two copies a day.. Websites are not allowed to allow Roms for download by court order, but some are still out there because they have huge disclaimers "You are only allowed to continue if you have legally boughten the game" So ya, most of the time the "backup" thing would work. And, what kind of new equipment do you need? Just out of curiosity.. I figure you have a computer with internet connection, DVD burner. the only new "equipment" would be DVD's, right? _________________________________________________________________________________ If I had the money maybe I would be doing it. I know for a fact that someone could make ALOT of money quick doing this, but to get "really into it" you would use most of that money to improve your operation. About 3,000$ will get you a stand alone 7 drive tower, you could obviously make alot more with that and not tie-up your computer. If, after that, your demand gets bigger you could get a couple more or even an automatic loading one so you dont have to be there to change the disks (there usually around 10,000$) Of course websites arnt allowed to have the games for people to download, Get direct connect and share some files to get you into the game hubs and you can find anything you are looking for (some games before they even go on sale) but they are huge files and it would be better to get a few memberships to different blockbusters or some other places (dont just go in and rent 50 games at once) Oh yeah and you can get 500 DVD-Rs for 1,175$ or 100 for 255$ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ II. How to start a riot +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: fallenhero Starting a Riot. I would like to explain in my own words and thoughts on how to incite a riot in a crow of 50 or more people. Before i start this i would like to state. -Police are your enemy. They carry rubber bullets, oh and guns that send them into your backside as you run.. -Make sure you or your cohorts never expose yourselves during the acts before the riot. -Try not to get caught inside the chaos, you could get injured, or even killed! Ahh with that said, let me begin. You all have seen riots on tv started by angry sports fans, drunk idiots, gangs, whatever. Well you see, what makes people get into this state of pure chaos is that they feel powerful in groups. A group of violent people with a single cause will always feel invincible. Step 1. Inciting the Riot Get about 5 or 6 people/friends/parents whatever. Strategically place them around the targeted crow of people. They must all do certain actions at the right time or it will not work. They should all be placed near easilly visible groups or people (gangs, racial groups) now there are many things that one can do to piss off a large group of people, thats the easy part. Heres some suggestions: Have someone enter one group and throw stones or something hard at some people that are nearby. Have someone else do it from the other side at someone near that person. Get two people and have them run into people push people run away, thats pretty ballzy though.. Just do anything that will get people to fight normally but repeatedly. Step 2: Taking care of your Riot. This is where it gets interesting, as people are starting to fight and it gets more intense you have to do things to get the people pumped, feel more powerful. Turn over a car or something...maybe throw some smoke bombs. Small explosions maybe? As the riot rages on, get out as soon as possible and make sure everyone you brought is accounted for. Sit back and snicker. Lather. Rinse. Repeat. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: quote: __________ better yet have someone place a object that could be mistaken for a bomb in a crowded area like a concert then scream bomb as loud as possible everyone will run around like crazy imagine the damage that they will do pushing, shoving, trampling as a stampied of hundreds of people run out of the place __________ At my work we have discussed renting a Ryder truck and parking it next to the Hydrogen tank and watching peoples reactions. _________________________________________________________________________________ You could always find a crowd near a bunch of tall buildings and go to the roof of one nearby (not right there though). Throw some rocks, with luck people will start fighting thinking it's someone else doing it. If not, be sure you're ducked down well. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ JJ. Playstation Scam +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: bpyle This is a fairly easy scam to pull off and if done correctly, it will net you $50.00+ per scam. This can be done over and over as long as you don't target the same store frequently. First you go on ebay and buy a broken playstation (they usually go for $50-90). After you receive the broken playstation go to walmart and buy a brand new one for $200.00. You may want to buy the latest model ps2 on ebay so the chance of detection is low. Now that you have both playstations, take them both apart and switch the guts (everything inside the playstation) Now you have the guts from the broken playstation inside the brand new casing. The old, used up playstation now appears to be brand new from the outside. Take the playstation back to walmart and give them some bs story like it doesn't work. Now that you took the broken playstation back to walmart and received the full $200.00 refund, turn around and sell the brand new playstation with an older casing on ebay. This should sell on ebay for $135+ or you can keep the playstation for yourself _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: i have even a better idea..go to a place that mods ps2's, they usually sell clear cases for ps2's..get ur ps2 switched..and then fill the old black one with shit..like old compuyter hard drives...whatever..secure them down..and make sure they weigh the same..jsut say that u got it as a gift, but u have too much homework so ur parents are making u return it..boom u jsut got a free ps2. minus the cost of the cool case it now resides in _________________________________________________________________________________ Theres a warranty sticker on the crease of the opening. if the sticker is removed, or ripped its voided. so you would have to open the case and remove the parts WITHOUT ripping or taking off that sticker. thats a slight set back, but easily avoided. and also, on most things (like a ps2) the screws are under the grip things, just pry them up with small screwdriver or something and you are free to go _________________________________________________________________________________ If someone wanted to do this, would they have to switch ALL the inside parts. Most internet faq do dont show you hot to take apart the bottom, just show you how to get to the lens to fix.......so you could legally buy broken ps2s and fix em and sell em for more on ebay....if you are going to do this scam you might as well do this, am i wrong? ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ KK. Car Shopping +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: rabbitsfoot420 If you're really really bored, or you really really need money. My suggestion is Car shopping. Of course, I'D never ever do anything like this... but someone out there might want to... Anyway, How you do it: Go to a LARGE parking lot, like a mall, or a big company, make sure there's a lot of cars, but not many people. Find an old looking car, (the newer one usually have alarms.) Make sure it's not too Ghetto though, because if you do get caught, you're a lot more likely to get in hurt than in trouble... unless you'd rather be dead than have the cops on your ass. If it's unlocked, just open the door, and act like it's your car (if you're too young to drive, and look too young, bring someone older with you OR open the passengers side door, not the drivers). Play it casual, get in, or just lean in and act like you're looking for something out of YOUR car. Carry a bag. Take anything you find interesting, Cash, CD Players, CDs, anything at all. Grab it, shut the door, put the stuff in the back (quickly but in a non-suspicious way) and walk away. Make sure you leave the car exactally the way it was. If you're really unsure, wear gloves. But that can look sneaky if it's warm out. Remember, that's YOUR car, when you're done, walk back towards the building, after all, you wouldn't just leave your car there, and walk away. So be sure you walk back inside. That's why you have the bag. Not a plastic bag, and nice back pack, or side bag, so that if you pass the person who's car that happens to be, they won't know you have their stuff. Two Rules: 1. DON'T get caught 2. If you DO get caught, you didn't hear this from me. Good Luck! _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: One thing I suggest is to go for a car someone has just parked. Obviously wait a minute or two, but this way youre less likely to have the person catch you. That is if youre at a mall, or some place someone would take their time at. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LL. EBAY LOOP HOLE +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: qwerty316 I put it back, What i did was wrong by posting then removing, I WILL NEVER DO THAT AGAIN (unless its just plain stupid) http://uweb.superlink.net/jason/ebay/page1.html I didNOT write this eBay loophole-- there is an easy way to win any eBay auction for almost no money. I just had it happen to me, and I'm very unhappy with the results of my lost time, and eBay charging me fees that I now have to try and get retracted. While in my case, I had a reserve, many auctions out there do not, and eBay encourages no reserve with their 'hot item' section. To make matters worse, if you start your item off at a reasonable price, you'll get very few bids, and thus less people watching it during the final minutes of the auction. Normally, on eBay, the process works like this: You place a max bid for the item. Say the item is an antique vase. You like it, think its worth $100. Bidding opens at $2. You place a bid of $100. eBay gives you the opening bid at $2. You are protected up to $100. Another bidder. Bidder 2 comes along and he wants the vase for $50., so he bids that amount. Bidder 1 is still the high bidder, at $55 ($50 + $5 increment). So Bidder 2 comes back and bids again, this time at $105. Viola! Bidder 2 is now winning at $105 (he met your high bid of $100 + the $5 increment. More bids. Bidder 3 thinks the vase is worth $125, and bids that amount. He becomes high bidder with a price of $110. Bidder 4 thinks the vase is worth $130, and becomes high bidder posting that amount. The auction continues in this way until the end. Usually, in the last minutes, the bidding gets very heated, and the vase may end up selling for $600., which is close to what your local antique shop might charge. This is how the scam works: Same vase, opens at $2. Only this time, Bidder 1 bids $1000. The opening bid still shows only $2. He immediately follows with a false identity Bidder 2, at $990. Bidder 1 becomes high bidder at $995. Since this is more than you can get a similar product locally, and in a price range the average user is not going to spend lightly, there are no other bidders. Scam complete. 15 seconds before the auction ends, Bidder 2 rescinds his bid, the "high" price drops back to the opening bid of $2, and Bidder 1 wins at that amount. Unless the seller has a substantial reserve to protect his investment (which is discouraged by eBay) he will be obligated to sell the vase for $2. If he does have a reserve, he doesn't have to sell, but he still owes eBay posting fees and the auction was a waste for him. For those of you who will say that the seller is not obligated to sell -- two things: Seller must first be aware he was scammed. Seller will likely end up getting neg feedback from scammer if he does not sell! ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ MM. Got RTCW KEY THrough SE [social Engineering] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: qwerty316 i dont knwo if i shoudl brag about this,, but hell for all you guys knwo i just made this up! (fictional strory DO NOT ATTEMPT, For Enteraimnet purpous only, i hold no responcyibilty for your actions) My FAKE STORY using Sociial Engerning OPER: xxx RELAY xxxx DIALING xxx-xxx-xxxx RINGING 1 ... 2 ... THE FOR CALLING THE xxxxx STORE (HOLDING FOR ELECTRONICS) (HOLDING ...,. CALL TRANSFERRING TO ELECTRONICS (PLS PLACE RINGING 1 ... 2 ... 3 ... (PERSON HUNG UP) SR xxxx GA OR SK (REDIALING) (HOLDING FOR ELECTRONICS) (HOLDING ..., RINGING 1 ... 2 ... 3 ... 4 ... HI CAMERA AND SOUND (F)  (M) HELLO GA USER:  return to castle wofllf einsietnenstein and when i got home i couolldnt play it online because it was missing teh cd key, so i called custmor service and they said just to explain and that they wpould have teh a new cd key from another return to castle wolfensiten game GA OPER: WELL U NEED TO BRING IT IN TO GET SREVICED OR REPLACED USER: OPER: GA USER: I did, and they didnt have abnny instock so they just said that when they haveve one they will call me, and they did, and now its super hard for me to even move let alone talk, so i dont wanna  GA OPER: UUH LOOKIG IN OUR STOCK RIGHT NOW TO SEE IF WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT I SEE IT ON THE SHELF HERE AND WE HAVE SEVERAL COPIES ITS 299  99 GA USER: yes i need the cd key GA OPER: OK WELL UUH OH DEAR LETR ME T ME SEE HERE IM NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT A CD KEY IS LETS SEE IF WE GOT UUH LET ME TAKE A LOOK HERE JUST A SECOND ONE OF THEM DOES HAVE A CD IN IT GOOD NOW DO U WANT ME TO LEAVE IT AT GUEST SERVCE THATS WHERE THEY DO USER: t OPER: EXCHANGES I CANT USER: hat would OPER: DO IT USER: be gr OPER: IN MY USER: ea OPER: DEPT GA USER: t, but i have been in an accadent where OPER: LARIGHTY ILL TAKE USER: i cant OPER: IT UP USER: do shi OPER: THERE USER: t OPER: NOW USER: till i heal so i have no way there and my bro is at work, so if you could read the cd key that woudl be great GA OPER: CD KEY LETS SEE WHAT THE CD KEY IS IN THIS LITTLE FELLA WAIT A MINUT E TE HERE IM NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS IM TAKING A LOOK JUST A SECOND LET ME OPEN THIS AND SEE WHAT IT LOOK LIKE INSIDE WHERE WOULD I FIND THE CD KEY I DONT SEE IT ON HERE QQ G GA USER: in in the packageing somewhere , i dont really no cause mine didnt have one GA OPER: OH WAIT HERE IT IS "(BLANKED OUT" IS THAT IT QQ GA USER: NO thats not it at all, you knwo what i am just gonna go to teh store and speak with custmor service!!! SKSKSKSKKSKS __________ nice FICIONAL STORY ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ NN. Counterfeiting(my tips) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: Deathrow588 There are quit a few posts about this, most doing the asking. So im going to tell a few things i have figured out. Ok first go Here then search for pictures of the notes your country uses as currency. Collectors sites are good and if you want any good useable pics for Sterling[£] then ask,sorry i only know sterling sites by heart. Ok next either print one side of the note and the other side of the note or if you know how print the note out on either side of the paper. Then(if it was not to scale on the site which i doubt it would be then scale it up/down with Adobe which you could get from Kazaa)cut it out using a guilotine. You have a piece of normal printing paper with your selected currency printed in colour on it. Now put a tea bag in a mug and pour water in the mug. Let it stand for a few minutes and LEAVE THE TEA BAG IN! Then add roughly two table spoons of honey and stir untill the honey disolves i.e does not effect the viscocity of the liquid. Now, pour the liquid into a pan and put it on heat[the lowest] and then using tongs(or chop sticks) lower the 'note' into the liquid untill it is half submerged, take it out and immediately do the same with the other half, never fully submerging it. Then hold it over the pan, holding both ends horizontaly untill the excess liquid had spilt off then turn it over and do the same with the other side. Lay it on some kitchen paper and let it dry out. Now, when it is dry, fully submerge it in the liquid again, bring it out and hold both ends taught[tight] then move your hands up and down moving closer and closer. This basically scrunches it up and makes it much softer and smoother. IF you didnt understand that last part just do anything to make the paper smooth and soft and less crisp, like an old worn out note. Ok thats pretty much it. If the colour looks really unreal after the tea bag thing then try again with different quantities or even dont do it at all. Now i know alot of people will put this down probably witout even reading the whole thing or without trying it. And i dont really blame you. It is a personal method used by me Deathrow aka Josh(16 year old) so why beleive me?Dont. I coudlnt care less. I have used this before at a corner shop where i knew the didnt check notes too carefully and it worked. I handed over a fake £5 note and got £4.69 back in real money. Thats a profit. A little off side here: The security thread in notes(you know the line that shows up when you hold it up to light) is easy to re-creat. Just cut a very thin strip of tinfoil and put it between to peices of paper. Hold the ends of the paper tight and hold it up to light and you have a security thread. Getting it in to a notes is much harder and i tried it but didnt have the balls to attempt spending it. Ok this is my longest post ever on totse, which means there is soooo much here you can flame. Dont be too brutal im just giving some experience! _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: scan a bill... bleach out a $1 bill, and print a 5 or 10 $ on it ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ OO. Check Washing Tools +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: Lokil Acetone, most widely used, is a highly volatile organic solvent used mainly as a hand-wipe solvent in cleaning applications. It is also a good drying agent for wet parts. But it will erase most inks from a stolen check without any noticeable effect. Reading the remarks on side of a can of Acetone, you will find out it effectively removes some greases, oils, waxes, and inks. It is commonly used to remove uncured fiberglass resins, varnish, and lacquer and may be useful for applications that require a highly volatile cleaner. Acetone may be applied by hand wipe or immersion in an unheated tank; Benzene, Bleach, used in ever day cleaning in your home. Normally to whiten fibers in clothes washing. Carbon Tetrachloride, most widely used in carpet cleaning, Chloromice "T", a mild form of bleach, used normally in the socking of baby diapers, Fox "IT", used mostly with stamp collectors, Clear Correction Fluids, A high-performance eraser to erase everything from ballpoint pen ink, PPC and Diazo copy ink, to typewriter ribbon ink, drafting ink, and printed matter. __________ You can buy acetone at any personal home configuration type store. Under twenty for two quarts, methinks? All you do is let the sweet check soak in a small soap-dish amount for a few days. **Note - This will only work with ball-point ink** That's why I mentioned the other tools. To prevent being caught too early, make sure you re-write the check in the amount it was originally written for. That way when he/she balances their checking account all will seem well. My situation was a bit different because the girl I was seeing at the time had an agreement with a checking cashing clerk who we would cut some of the profits with. But for those of you that have options or juevos this is what you can do: 1) If you have the resources to make ID's at will, you can make up a fake name and with your picture on it. Write the check to that person and take it to the bank or origin. Or to your nearest supermarket. 2) If you are too amateur to step #1 write the check for the amount you think you can get away with. It truly depends on where you steal the check from. Hopefully you can steal a mortgage check or will say the hell with it and write it out for $5,000. Write the check out to you. Cash the check then call the DMV claiming you ID was stolen! My girlfriend deposited a a large check into my checking account without telling me, thus I didn't know when to withdraw the funding. So the check was reversed and the cops inquired. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PP. Robbery Scam +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: NPerez I heard this on the radio a while ago Buy cheap tickets to a sports event or something similar and call a person and say ' You've won free tickets to ______ '. If they want them, send them the tickets in the mail. So now you know that there will be nobody home at the time of the event, giving you the perfect chance to go to their house and loot the fucking place. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Risk Factor is fairly high. You would have to find a person who is sure to go to the event the tickets are for, as well as be sure that he will not give them to someone else, that no one else will be home, etc... _________________________________________________________________________________ Looting someone's else is always something that should be planned (if you don't want to get caught). Just study the house for a few days, see the habits, check which cars leave, and so on. Generally during the day is better as kids are at school and parents are at their jobs. Then put on some gloves, find a back entrance (choice of actual entry is really up to you, hypothetically I would prefer it to be "stealthy"), pick what you want in the house, then leave without a trace (minus your score). Being stealthy with everything is usually good, it's usually best to have everything covered, toque (no hair falling out), gloves (fingerprints), don't chew gum or anything that may be left behind, and probably take off your shoes as not to leave marks. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QQ. airport scheme [stealing luggage] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: stevalkenieval I think it is possible to get to the baggage area of an airport without a ticket. Then you just grab some nice looking bags when they come out on the carousel(sp). _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Assuming the baggage stubs aren't checked by security guards before you are allowed to leave the area... Grabbing items randomly off the carousel, while there are many bags, may raise a slightly uncomfortable situation in which the real owner of the bag says 'hey that's my bag,' and you retort 'oh my fault, looks just like mine...' You may want to grab the last few bags when it's evident the real owner isn't there, of course this too has its drawbacks... And regarding your original question, yes, in most airports you can get to the baggage claim area without needing a ticket. _________________________________________________________________________________ if you are really gonna do this, i suppose the best idea would be to stand at the end of the loop, and grab the ones that are just about to go back into the building, because then obviously those people aren't there, or didn't see it... _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ There are so many people there they wouldn't notice. And security doesn't check the stub on the bag. __________ This depends on the airport. _________________________________________________________________________________ yea, its pretty useless, not really useful either, because people just keep crappy clothes and stuff, but maybe, if your lucky, there would be something worth money _________________________________________________________________________________ You more than likely get "blindsided" by the owner of the baggage and the cops wouldnt do a thing to "him or her!" you on the other hand, well, ha ha , would probably have some explaining to do! If you are a US citizen , then ahve you ever heard of the Homeland Security Act? _________________________________________________________________________________ Think of it as a second-hand 'grab bag,' sure most of it will likely be clothing, but that can be washed and sold at garage sales, swap meets, second hand stores, worn yourself, etc... ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ RR. Shortchange Scam, Version II +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: Phlab I read this from a book excerpt. You go to a store... A gas station, for example. You get a 98 cent pack of gum. Pay for it with a 20 dollar bill You will receive 2 pennies, 4 ones, a five, and a ten. Pocket it all, but then pull out everything except for the ten. You then ask the clerk if you can get a 10 dollar bill from five ones and a five. Hand him the Five, and four ones you got as change from the gum as he hands you the ten. Tell him to count the money you handed him, just to make sure you didn't shortchange him. Obviously, he'll find out you shortchanged him a dollar. Now you comment that you are in a hurry. Give him back a ten, the pack of gum, and two cents (he'll already be holding the 4 ones and a five), and ask for your twenty back. Right now he'll see this on the counter: Four 1 dollar bills One 5 dollar bill One 10 dollar bill, 2 cents One pack of gum ------- In his mind, he's got everything back. You still have 10 dollars in your pocket, which you got at the very beginning as change. Walk out of the store 10 dollars richer. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: "You then ask the clerk if you can get a 10 dollar bill from five ones and a five. Hand him the Five, and four ones you got as change from the gum as he hands you the ten." i asume that this ten he hands you will be one out of the register. it may work but if you do get caught, you'll look like an idiot. _________________________________________________________________________________ I stand corrected. As for looking like an idiot, yes, you are one. That is the exact mental image you must project to the cashier. You must make him think you made that mistake because you are a total idiot, not a smart ass guy trying to scam his ass. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SS. SIMPLE, but brilliant scheme! [grab-n-run] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: XcapuchiX ok listen up. i just did this and made about $2000 in merchandise, but you can make cash and merchandise also. you go into a large store, one that sells electronics, lets say you want a new car stereo deck that costs 500 bucks. you get the deck, go to the counter, buy it, and then go out to your car and put the deck inside. now go back into the store with just the receipt from the deck, and pick out another deck, identical to the one you just bought. now take it to the return counter and give them the receipt and BANGO you got the money back from the deck that you didnt even buy, hence a free deck. do this repeatedly and you can get merchandise and money, or just get whatever you want. just dont blow it up by doing it repeatedly in one store the dont know what hit em. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: we did a varient on this scam a while back, me and my mate. mate got this new car, had some borken cd changer in it. we bought a new one, installed it took the old one (same model) back for a refund.........they didnt know what hit em i bet _________________________________________________________________________________ If you're over 18, you can pull the renter's scam. This simply involves one person spending, let's ssay, 800$ to rent an apartment, under an assumed name. You then have people contact you about renting the apartment (it's empty, remember) and they send you hundreds for a security deposit, and the first months' rent. Thousands of dollars profit. _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ additionally, they make wonder why you buy an item and 5 minutes later you return it. also, they would see you leave with an item, come back into the store without it, and then appear at the CS desk with item in hand. you would have to wait a week or so (or atleast a few days) between when you buy and when you return... __________ This is why you do this at a large store, preferably one that has the return counter far away from the purchasing areas. When its real busy(around 5- 9) no one notices someone walking into the store, plucking something off a shelf just like anyone else and going to the return counter instead of the cash register. I am revising this tomorrow by trying to return the item I actually purchased and getting money for it, so I can just get pure profit cash instead of merchandise.. To do this you must wait at least a day after you have already purchased and returned something. _________________________________________________________________________________ You should really wait at least 3 or so days because receipts have the date and time on them. This means that they will know when you purchased the item. _________________________________________________________________________________ u can return dvd's that are still in their original packaging and since ur taking a freshy it works fine, yes the place where i've done this has a guy at the door but there is no stickers, if u can be smart or slick or whatever u wanna call it, blend into ur surroundings, don't make eye contact (y security guards at doors say hi to everyone,not to be nice rather to make eye contact) and basiclly enter the store undetected grab what u need and get to the return counter in a way that u basiclly appear out of nowhere it works. i've returned Massive boxs worth g's it works. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ TT. Recommended reading, and where to get it [book scams and scam books] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: dDIzzIEe Recommended Reading What follows is a list of a few books that should make for good reading and thus be if interest to those interested in the fine art of ‘screwing the system,’ you’ll notice that sometimes a brief summary is provided . This was not posted in Printed Matter, as the post deals with books specific to Bad Ideas (and even more specifically scamartistry) as well as due to the fact that after the actual book list, I also included a summary of some of the most popular techniques of getting the books for free . Steal This Book Abbie Hoffman [The classic underground guide of the 70s, including a compendium of scams, instructions to make your own flipflops, etc… This book is available online at numerous locales such as http://www.eriswerks.org/steal.html ] Free Stuff : How Others Get Free Money, Booze, Gasoline, And Everything! John Green An excellent little guide outlining some common scams The Complete Idiot's Guide To Frauds, Scams, and Cons Duane Swierczynski Amazon has 36 sample pages available: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ tg/detail/-/0028644158/ref=lib_rd_ss/104-1968659- 2339914?v=glance&s=books&vi=slide-show#reader-link How to Become a Professional Con Artist Dennis Marlock Focuses on street scams… Rip-Off: A Writer's Guide to Crimes of Deception Fay Faron The ‘ten step program to planning a con’ is comical, albeit useful for the beginner… Art and Science of Dumpster Diving John Hoffman The classic guide to everyone’s favorite pastime Dumpster Diving: The Advanced Course : How to Turn Other People's Trash into Money, Publicity, and Power John Hoffman Gambling Scams: How They Work, How to Detect Them, How to Protect Yourself Darwin Oritz Scams From The Great Beyond : How To Make Easy Money Off Of Esp, Astrology, Ufos, Crop Circles, Cattle Mutilations, Alien Abductions, Atlantis, Channeling, And Other New Age Nonsense Peter R. Houston S(h)elf help guide : the smart lifter's handbook Gabriel Caime 101+ Ways to steal By A Cashier Barry Briant Feel free to add your own favorites! And now for some common ways to get your hands on the aforementioned books: In the bookstore: First of all, if the bookstore does not have any of the above books (and it probably wont), simply proceed to the customer service desk, or find an employee, and tell them that you would like to order the book. They will ask for your address, name, and phone number. To be on the safe side, you may wish to give a false name/address, and the phone number of a friend…Once the book arrives, they will call the phone number you specified and tell you that the book has arrived and they will keep it on hold for you for a certain amount of time (one to two weeks usually). Once you come into the bookstore, proceed to the cash register area and tell the cashier your last name and that you have a book on hold. Once you are handed the book, tell the cashier that you would like to look through it first, and walk off into the midst of the store. This is where the fun starts. Standard shoplifting techniques apply: *place the book in a nearly full trashcan, covering it under a layer of tissues or whatnot, mark the bag with Whiteout, a slight tear, a sticker, etc…and in the next few days proceed to scout through the store dumpsters and spot your marked bag… *Flip through the book to filter out any security tags that might be placed in- between pages, and after you’re confident there is nothing there, simply smuggle the book out in a shopping bag, waistband, etc…. Another idea that has gained popularity is to bring a digital camera with you (either inside a jacket pocket or a shopping bag). Take your book and proceed to the restroom. Go into the handicapped stall, and placing the book on the floor, holding the pages down with your feet, proceed to take a clear picture of every two pages (or page, depending on the length of the book). Then, simply dump the book on a shelf, go home, and upload your images to your computer . You may also simply buy the book, take it home and read it (perhaps also scanning the book onto the computer to have a backup copy ) and return it with the receipt within the allocated timeframe (check the store’s return policy). On the other hand, you may just want to read the entire book at the bookstore, perhaps bringing a notepad to write down the scams that interest you the most. Of course, you can buy the book directly from the publisher online, assuming that they have a lenient return policy, and then simply ship the book back, but by buying through the bookstore you have the nice option of paying with cash. If one of the above books happen to be in the library (doubtful), then simply proceed to use standard library theft techniques such as peeling off the tags, exchanging the tags with another book, or simply tossing the book out the window, and picking it up outside. And of course another classic way you can attempt to get your book of choice is to look up the publisher of the book (through a site such as Amazon or by simply doing a Google search), and then draft a letter to the publisher, complete with phony letterhead created with your favorite desktop publishing software, stating that you are a book reviewer for so-and-so magazine/journal, and would like a copy of _______ to review for next month’s issue. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Also, under Paladin Press, is The Book On Bookies by James Jeffries. Sports bookies=money. _________________________________________________________________________________ best place to get books, without a doubt-- www.loompanics.com ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ UU. Stealing [semi-coherent shoplifting advice?] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: PhysoSimaticOuttaControl Okay here is how its done, before you go in the store you got to have a plan. Make sure to scope out the scene the night before plan you're getaway (People that are sloppy are the ones who get cought) Try to make sure the Clerk does'nt have a gun I must warn you that is the scarest part UNLESS YOU CAN OUT RUN A BULLET and I hold no responcablity. One plan is you've got you're snach and run which works best with a friend waiting in a car with the doors open for you to jump in after you get what you want and he is waiting around the corner of a street that is close by.Now you and you're friend thats going in with you go in the store and can play it cool and just walk in GRAB AS MANY 40S as you can hold, then run out Jump in the car and get wasted. The licence Plates first letter needs to be duct taped and last number too do not forget both plates have the same letter and number's taped on both sides : ) This makes it nearly imposable for the store cameras and the cleck to get the driver's plates After you drive a few blocks away take the duct tape off just incase a cop rolls on thru he won't be none the wiser. They have never called the cops on me and my friends to this day. But you runners must not get cought nether so you have two options one I just wrote and this one...===> Go up to the counter have a pocket full of change and a candy bar ready and put the candy bar that you got earler on the counter (try to be loud for you're friend getting the 40s this can help===> But you might look kind of like you two are ploting something and you are, but dont let the clerk find out.) Tell the Clerk "I'm not sure if I have 99 cents or however much. Then through it over on the other side of the counter say oh I'm sorry try using lot of pennys there not as eazy to pick up==> And this is when it all happens ; ) You're friend Grabs LOTS of 40s and just starts walking out the door If the Clerk says something that is you're clue to run like banshees. Even if the Clerk says nothing You both must run at the same time. ====>At any rate try to make this a place that you don't come to that often ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ VV. a combination scam and theft +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: flipz ok i came up with this idea while at work today. ive never heard anyone talk about it but i doubt it's new. so i thought id post about it. see if anyone has tried it or anything. well as most of you should know, you go into a store, you use a credit card, you sign for it. the store you used it at now has 72 hours to turn in a receipt showing your signature to the credit card company. otherwise the money is automatically credited back to yer account, and the company looses. (if my theory on this is wrong, then someone let me know. but this is what ive always been taught) now busy places like walmart always give you the receipt to sign and turn around to start checking out the next person in line. well... now you take your items and walk away. or take the receipt too, cause if she sees an unsigned receipt she'll most likely ask you to come sign it. i don't know. i haven't thought it through enough to know how you could easily get away with it, but this is a rough draft i guess. is there a name for this, is it a topic ive just missed? will it not even work? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: im not an expert on credit cards...yet...but i dont think this would work. its a good idea, but i dont think they wont charge a credit card just cause they dont have a signed receipt. just think about any store online, or any mail order company. millions of merchants do business each day and charge cards without having signatures on file... then again, it might work. try it and find out _________________________________________________________________________________ i always like to give credit but i lost the website i got it from, was on a google search: quote: __________ Since the entire transaction is captured electronically, the receipt is used only if a dispute arises, for example due to a stolen card and forged signature. __________ well i don't know where i got my info from but i swear they had to send a signature in. well in that case, go to a store, buy a bunch of shit, use your cc, then from a cell just outside the store, call your CC company and say your card was stolen. it may take time to get it wiped off the card but in the end it's yours. or one would think so atleast. maybe ill get me a new tv this way. haha. just make sure and sign the receipt shitty. not like your own signature _________________________________________________________________________________ where i work the customer that pays by checks must supply the following: name: address: phone number: identification(hopefully a cc): id expiry: when they use a cc for ID i have the right ammount of info to start a carding scam, right? well thats my plan anyway. the problem is drop points. i live in the country - there are no abANDONed house near me, i could just put up a mail box on some road, but ill need to sigh for anything i card right. so ill need to hand out at some house / place until it comes..... i thought about paying some dude across the country like $50 to sign a bogus name, send me the shit then deny ever having picked it up if the cc company inquires. im looking for more information on how to make this successful and also - anyone who would be a drop for me in NZ.... _________________________________________________________________________________ my buddy told me you can call a credit card company and complain that what you got was not satisfactory or some shit, and they will refund it to you. you would have to do it to some small store that cant aford legal action, but he did it to pizza places and his boss got a free massage ( thats where he got the idea) ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ WW. Blockbuster Scams +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: dDIzzIEe A few video rental scams for your movie viewing pleasure (not necessarily geared towards any specific video rental place) Late at night, when the area is deserted, with no local security driving around, take a stick (or pipe), attach an adhesive to the end (such as bubble gum or a ring of Duct Tape), and proceed to steer it into the tape return slot. Simply ‘pick up’ the tapes and carefully drag them out. Bring a flashlight so you can see inside. Also remember that while there may be cameras, they are most likely not actively watched, so as long as one follows standard procedures (a hoodie, baseball cap, not a Blockbuster near your residence, etc…) the chance of getting ‘caught’ is reasonably low. Also remember to take what you get and leave, don’t stand there seeing what movies you got. Another idea is when returning a tape, simply peel the blockbuster stickers off (perhaps using an adhesive remover such as one found here: http:// www.kitchen-classics.com/adhesive.htm ), and put the stickers back on a blank tape (making sure to punch out the little black square on the side), and return the blank tape, keeping the movie. Make sure that the tape is rewound, and although I’m not sure as to how Blockbusters works, I doubt that they watch every tape. You can also record a random movie on the blank tape before returning it, as well as after the tape has been returned to the shelf, putting it in another box…Another method for getting a spare tape would be to browse through a freebie site and order some promotional free tapes (such as one from http://www.davidglickman.com/videotape.htm ). I was also reading an article in an issue of 2600 (Fall 2002), and it outlined a way that one could get one’s late fees removed. In a nutshell, what one can do is call the Blockbuster store at which you rented the video and have the late fee at, pretending to be an employee from another store (for which you can get the number from a receipt). Once you call, introduce yourself as _____ from store number ____ in _____ (the town of the other Blockbuster). State that a customer has late fees at the former store and would like to pay them at the current store. Next proceed to tell the employee over the phone ‘the customer’s’ name and account number, and voila, your late dues are removed (obviously use common sense and don’t call from a home phone) And finally some quotes from Maxim’s Cheating archives ( http:// www.maximonline.com/grit/cheaters_guide/archive.html ): quote: __________ Want a freebie? You and a friend both rent movies on the same night. (But don’t go in together-you’re trying to be slick here.) The next day, after you’ve each watched both movies, switch tapes in the cases, and go back to the store. (Again-separately!) Complain of a store mix-up and they’ll spot you a free rental. __________ quote: __________ If you've rented a movie and are returning it late, walk into the store when it's busiest and simply place it on a shelf, preferably behind other movies. When they do their weekly tape audit, they will find it and mark in the computer system that it was FOS (Found on Shelf). The next time you rent, explain that you returned the tape on time, and, since they found it in the store, they will assume it was an employee error and remove the late charge from your account. Joseph W. Davenport, IA __________ quote: __________ Blockbuster has a policy that if you don't enjoy a movie you've rented from them, it's free. So, just go in and grouse about how you hated all the gratuitous violence, nudity, and sexually explicit content of the film, and that you thought it was supposed to be a romantic melodrama. Not only do you get everything you rented the movie for in the first place, you'll get it gratis. Brian N. Alexandria, VA __________ quote: __________ This is an obvious one. Simply scour the new releases rack, and find the one movie that they don’t have in stock, making sure to inspect the checkout up front for any misplaced copies. Since they guarantee that the movie you want will be there, just act like you really wanted to see that movie, and your real rental will be free of charge. Dave C. New Hope, PA __________ ^If you want a particular movie, you may simply want to relocate a few of the boxes that haven’t been checked out, and then complain that there are no copies. They will check the computer, and tell you that there are, but you can simply show them that the display is empty…Although I must add that this is a tad riskier and might raise some suspicion on their part… ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ XX. "Spoofing Paypal" Not Exactly [paypal scam link] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: Exitao http://mysql.astaforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11927 I think most of you knows this.But this may help begginers in html who are trying to download an application from sites which has an paypal order page. 1)Just rightclick your mouse and click viewsource and open the source of the site in an notepad.. 2) Just search for the words "return" 3)Next to it you can find the url for the thank you page. 4)Copy that and hit it in your browser and you can see the download links. Most of the websites send you the download link by email. THis works onlywhen they provide instant download after payment ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ YY. Stealing Solar Panels [unique idea] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: Starcraft Tohse solar panals on top of those highway payboxes and other payphones. Is there a way of stealing them? If you can steal alot of them your get alot of free electricity. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Sounds like a smart idea, except that if the solar panels are only as big as the width and length of a phone box, you won't get much draw off of them. You would need loads to generate a decent amount of electricity, and someone might notice that you suddenly have dozens of little solar panels with "Telco" stamped on them glued to your roof. It was a nice idea though, if you could possibly think where bigger solar panels might be, the idea could work. _________________________________________________________________________________ the problem is you need a storage device, those panels act as a trickle charger and don't make a lot of juice. _________________________________________________________________________________ In other words, don't waste your time. If you do want some free electricty though..all though not completely...study phreaking. Learn about the gaing some free electricity thourgh your phone line (which always has power running through it), and adjusting the line such that you get maximum possible flow of juice to your house line. It can be done, although I figure I will just pay my $40-$70 a month. And I live in an apartment...if you have your own house you are better off. _________________________________________________________________________________ The phone line cant handle much current, and therefore wont give you much electricity. People have tried however, and the phone company being smart has modified the phone system so that only high voltage/current is given if the phone is off hook. As for "phreaking" the phone line, I beleived you meant building a box which will consist of a battery being charged by the phone line. Like I said before, the phone company got smart enough that this no longer works. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ZZ. Data Mining [getting sensitive data from old hard drives] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: dDIzzIEe Was just flipping through the May (2003) issue of PC World, and came across an article, which can be read online here: http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/ 0,aid,110012,00.asp , regarding sensitive data left intact on old hard drives. The article talks about the fact that numerous former users of old hard drives do not erase (sometimes not even bothering to erase) sensitive information such as social security numbers, tax forms, credit card numbers, and other personal information... Well, what are you waiting for? You never know what you may find on that old hard drive... _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Yes, that is true. Before ditching an old computer or hard drive. you should reformat it so that all the data bits are changed to 0. In other words, completely erasing it. That's what you do. Forensics is what we do to recover such information. Study it. It is a little difficult, however...if you can do computer forensics...consider yourself a pretty hot item for businness's computer security. You have a job!!!! _________________________________________________________________________________ merely just formatting your drive will not erase anything, only the table of files. for the forensics to not be able to find your filed you have to have written data over the erased datas clusters over 20 times. there are various proggies that do this. this is why the armies of the world use 98% H2SO4 to dissolve their old HDDs ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ AAA. Good ideas of making money at school -- any ideas +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: rt_uk Got any good ideas on how to make money at school? Thank You _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: From what others have posted previously... -Sell pirated games/music -Offer to write papers -Steal hardware Etc... _________________________________________________________________________________ sell your self sell explosives _________________________________________________________________________________ Well, my school is an asshole and rips you off by having you pay a dollar for a 12 oz. soda. If your like this, then buy a 12 or 24 pack of soda and sell them to people for like $0.75 or 0.80 each. A good way to boost your sales is to fuck up the soda machines and that should get you more _________________________________________________________________________________ Another idea that has come to mind is to sell textbooks to used bookstores (or exchange them for store credit). Another option would be to sell textbooks to new students at a much cheaper price, or why not sell literature study guides printed off the web? _________________________________________________________________________________ well i am a good drawler and painter and sh*t so people at my school pay me to do their damn art projects or whatever..also set up a fake donation scam and go around asking people to donate quarters or dollars to help support some cuase...doesnt seem like much but it adds up _________________________________________________________________________________ Selling things have been very profitable here. I have sold some knives, even thought a stupid idea, I doubt kids here would do much more than just show off with them. Now as for the drug business, some gangs that exist around here completely controls big time drug dealing so dont expect to make much money from that. The most number of customers you are going to have is around 10 unless you want to get shot. The idea about stealing textbooks however, has been practiced by me many times. You should know though that any marks on the book indicating it is from your school needs to be ridden off. Also, watch out for those barcodes. The idea about selling soda works too, and it was a legit business at my school for a while until the school shut down this little student store because it was competeting, and winning, against the official school cafeteria. _________________________________________________________________________________ information brokerage gather info, sell it or blackmail with it. _________________________________________________________________________________ Well, back a few years ago, I was the only one with cable internet at my school and I had napster, so I would sell cds, but now everyone has cable and kazaa. Drugs is a good idea, but cdg is right, max of 10 people, but that can be good money. It just takes 8 weeks to grow a marijuana plant. Any other drug will get you caught or killed. I make a good profit selling cigarets and beer to kids. Learn to make fake ids. I sell them for 75 bucks a piece. The only problem is that nobody every has the money. Explosives are good to sell. That is probably my biggest money maker. Everyone wants them. I mostly sell small stuff like m-80s. I do sell a lot of pure sodium though. That stuff isn't that hard to make. I fill a pill bottle and make 50 bucks. ( the kids at my school are stupid ) Doing homework is good too. Especially in the morning when people realized they forgot to do it. I copy mine onto another piece of paper. That generates a good 5 bucks. Stealing books is nice. I sell books to the students in a grade below me so that they can study for next year. I sell them for 15 bucks. As you can tell, my biggest business are nerds in this. In the lunch line, steal food. Resell it to kids for a cheaper cost. This is good for a quick dollar. Taking Dares - sometimes you can drink a bottle of tobasco sauce for 50 bucks or say something fucked up to a teacher. I made 350 bucks from like 25 people for taking out our gym lockers (they are on wheels) and putting them in the showers and turning the showers on. _________________________________________________________________________________ sell pirated stuff. sell dvd quality movies for 10, games for 15, and theatre cam movies for 5-6 dollars. people will love you. instead of paying 20-30 for a dvd, they get it for 10. instead of 50 for a game, they get it for 15, plus you can get them movies that have just come out. this is very profitable. buy a 50 pack of black Imation cd's for 15-20 dollars tops, burn like hell and you can make tons of cash. oh, also sell music cd's. 50 cents per song is usually what i charge. _________________________________________________________________________________ if u wanna make money i think the best way would be to steal shit from school to sell probly somewhere else. steal stuff from other students that they're not supposed to have. like at my school we're not allowed mobile phones so i have stolen a couple of them, and when the victim tells the teacher their mobiles been stolen they will say you're not meant to have mobiles at school. all the while im selling it to a cash converters, after making some long distance calls of course!! i have found this is the best way or you could just steal money from ppl's bags - go for the girls' cause they usually have those big purses that they leave in their bag. good luck _________________________________________________________________________________ The best way to make money is find out who the smokers are at ur school and sell them ciggies. Most of them look too young or are to scared to buy a pack. I dunno what u guys pay for a pack of smokes over there but here in New Zealand its about $10-12($5-6USD i think), then find out what they smoke, they all seem to smoke the same brand. Most people here smoke Dunhill, Rothmans and Benson & Hedges. So you go out and buy a pack of 20 B&H for about $5 so u are paying 25c for one ciggie, then u just go up to the smokers and ask if they want to buy a smoke for 50c. They're all addicted and desperate, so unlees you smoke you should come out of it with $10. Then when u get all ur money go and buy 2 packs, sell them and then you'll have $20 in the end.....$10 bucks for you, 10 for another 2 packs......if u want u can even then buy 4 packs from the money but i guess it just depends how many people smoke at ur school. If you want, do it with a couple of friends cause when people find out ur selling they'll start selling aswell so ull have some compitition which u wont get it ur mates sell aswell. The dude i know that sells at school makes like 60 bucks a week sometimes. If ur business starts to get a bit thin get some kids addcicted by telling them all the cool kids smoke and that its not bad for u then give 'em a couple for free. Well good luck. _________________________________________________________________________________ buy or steal the 15 pack slim jims and sell them for 50 or 40 cent each you ake a profit I've benn doing this on the bus with airheads,slim jims,bubble gum,pixie stix and stolen games or trading cards,its not the greatest ide but it beats stealing form a cash register ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ BBB. Getting Free Products by 'writing' reviews +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: dDIzzIEe A large variety of goods, ranging from books to software is given to reviewers for free. The catch, however, is that each company is different in the amount of checking they do. For example, some companies may not send a product if you claim to be from some vague magazine they have never heard of, while others will gladly send out the product in appreciation of reaching a new wider audience. Standard protocol is to create a simple letterhead (complete with logo) for a fictional periodical, and draft a letter to the company of choice stating that you are a reviewer for so-and-so and wish to receive a complimentary copy of _____ for strictly reviewal purposes. (It's late and I'm exhausted but I'll post a sample letter within the next day or so). Once again, depending on the company, they may or may not write back stating that yes they'll send you the product and might like to see a copy of your review... Hence, your best bet is to pick a CD/DVD/Book and write to the publisher asking for a promotional copy for evaluation/review writing purposes. Some links that I've found that contain contact information for requesting free reviewal copies (or licenses in the case of software): software: http://www.xmlspy.com/authentic_references.html http://www.matterform.com/index.php?page=/mugs/index.php http://www.isupress.edu/reviewrequest.html http://www.mhhe.com/ catalogs/cust_serv/review1.mhtml http://www.veggievan.org/book/bookdet.html http://www.ymaa.com/reviewcopy.html etc... _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: i actually considered doing this legitimately, like making a website where stuff was reviewed, and eventually people would send me things to review never got around to doing it one of those failed ideas anyway, my dad works as a lecturer in a university. gets all these free books from publishers wanting him to review them and include them in the syllabus. the books arnt cheap either. might want to consider that possibility as well (get a university letterhead) _________________________________________________________________________________ The best way to do this, is actually write a couple of reviews of products, and include them with your letter as an example of the type of reviewing you do. Make sure they are accurate, and favourable to the product, but don't try too hard to be funny. If they can see a serious example, they are more likely to believe you, and send things. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CCC. DVD Scam +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: MSW2006 Well, I posted this originally in another thread, but I've been doing this lately, and I figured I would get the topic some mainstream attention on the board. What I do is go to the store, and find a magazine (usually an electronics one) that has one of those five DVDs for 49 cents each or something like that; usually, you have to pay shipping. So what I do is order all five DVDs, and pay the required $10 shipping and handling. Obviously, with these kinds of offers, the catch is that they will bitch you out about buying DVDs at full price within the next X number of years. Right. I just send them to a drop location, and pick them up, then sell them to the local used DVD store for $10-$12 apiece, at a profit of around $42 bucks. There ya go. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Yes, interesting idea , however one question I have is how do you go about paying the S&H? I don't have any experience with the aformentioned DVD clubs (although I've seen their ads in magazines like Rolling Stone), however I know that for (at least some) similar book clubs, the S&H bill is sent along with the free (cheap) books, hence when picking the package up at your drop, you wouldn't need to pay the S&H... ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DDD. Coinage [finding change] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: MSW2006 Well, last night, I decided to take a nice trip around my town, which is about six miles square. Seeing as how all I was doing was bumming around, I began to look for money. So first, I go to the payphones in one of the local malls, and find $1.50 between twelve payphones, I think it was. Then, I go to the drive-thrus of about seven resteraunts, and find too many coins that people have dropped. Probably seven or eight dollars worth. Good enough. I further head on to the local grocery stores, and find plenty of coins in those coinstar machines that people don't even check. Plenty of nickels and dimes and pennies there, between four grocery stores. I think total, I ended up with $13, for about two hours worth of work. So in theory, you don't have to do illegal shit for money, you just have to look around for it, which is legal. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Placing a fine-meshed net on the floors of shallow fountains at malls, campuses, etc...weighing it down at the corners with small rocks, and coming back in a while can yield some nice profits. Checking in the midst of bus seats can also yield a small profit, as well as walking under roller coasters (assuming you have access to the usually restricted area, or no one is watching). To take this opportunity to go off on a tangent, when getting off a roller coaster, be one of the first ones off, and drop by the bin where people temporarily place their valuables, take that lovely digital camera or wallet, and walk away. _________________________________________________________________________________ Take some couopns with you in a store. Buy a few ideas related to the coupons you have. If done correctly FORGET one coupon in your hand, etc. AND come back into the store 5-15 mins later SAYing you forgot to use it! [in the hand trick worked once, be on a cellphone or some crap] **55 cents later... you HAVE saved. _________________________________________________________________________________ I always did like picking coins out of fountains. They've never said anything to me about it about legalities, just asked me to leave once I got a handful. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ EEE. save $$ on postage +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: jackallen i received an envelope today containing a money order for an order that was placed on thepickshop.com. on the envelope were 3 stamps: a 32 cent stamp, and 2, 3 cent stamps underneath that. the postmark went through the 1 stamp on the top roc, but the 3 stamps have no markings on them. essentially, i could remove these and remail them, saving 6 cents!.. im not sure what denomiations stamps come it but it would be possible to place a low denomiation stamp in the corner, with the remaining denomiation stamp underneath it. you could reuse them, thus saving about 36 cents an envelope... _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Interesting , an older postage 'trick' was to lightly coat your stamp with glue, allowing the recipient to wash off the postage markings and reuse the stamp. source: http://www.2600.org.nz/sarchive/banana/stamps.txt ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FFF. the payphone scam?!?!?! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: Gyro8 I was curious if any one has ever pulled off the scam where u cut the two wires to a payphone so that later u could get all the money?? And if u did what exact tools did u use and the method in which u HAVE used this. My dumb ass got LITERALLY a big SHOCK when tryn to. i forgot that the wires were on and conducted electricity! So this next time i would like to be a whole lot more prepared!! _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: It does work on alot of model payphones and it's not total bullshit. I'm in a rush so i won't go in to alot of detail. The wiring loom that goes in to the payphone will contain 6-10 wires depending on country/model etc. 2 of these wires are for the coin return solenoid, (normally) yellow and brown. If these wires are cut it prevents the change return solenoid from functioning. These wires should only be 9-18 volts so you should not get shocked. Now if the phone has an illuminated light there will be mains power. These wires are generally thicker then the rest. If your not sure DON'T go cutting random wires. Electrician grade rubber handled cutters are desirable if your going to go experimenting with this stuff, and a multimeter and the knowledge on how to use one is a BIG bonus. While im at it, 2 wires in the loom are used for the actual phone call. If you locate these 2 wires and strip some insulation from them, you can get an ordinary house phone, cut the plug off it and attach 2 alligator clips. Clip them on to the stripped wires on the payphone, you will have a dial tone if done correctly. You can now phreak the world for free. Hope this clears a few things up. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GGG. Ballot stuffing as prize winning? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: dDIzzIEe This idea is a purely hypothetical spur-of-the-moment idea and has not been thoroughly developed and as such your comments are greatly encouraged… This idea revolves around those various public sweepstakes setups you may have seen at malls or outdoor shopping strips. Usually it’s a mildly decorated table or stand with a couple pads of entry forms and a box for the entry forms. The prizes vary from mall gift certificates, to small kitchen utilities, to a new car. Well, an important question that arises is: are these ballot boxes checked for ballot stuffing? While it is likely that the contests for the more grandiose prizes are checked to avoid this simple fraud, the contests which involve smaller prizes may not be checked… Of course, an important factor to consider is that there is only one prize, for if there’s a second or third, it will be awkward when your name is pulled out again. A way that ballot-stuffing could be tested is if the mall or store do a regular sweepstake, such as a monthly lottery for a $50 gift certificate would be to first enter the address of a person you loosely know (but do not particularly care about) from work or school and fill out a pad of entry forms with his name. In a couple of months the person should be bragging about his unexpected prize, or be contacted by law enforcement. So what if ballot stuffing is checked for? Well there are still a few ways you can increase your chances of winning the coveted leaf blower. Assuming you have access to the entry submission box after hours (for example if it is located in an outdoor mall), you may wish to open the box and take out a good amount of entry forms and perhaps replace them with a set of dummy forms made out to nonexistent addresses. An extreme, albeit more risky idea, would be to take out as much as 90% of the submissions and replace them all with fake ones, however this may raise a few eyebrows when your phone number is the only valid one out of 100 entries. To save yourself the trouble of having to come up with different handwriting, you may simply wish to alter various data on the existing forms, such as changing a 9 to an 8. If you do not have access to the submissions box at a convenient time, your actions will have to be all the more indiscriminant, perhaps only taking out a few forms a day (using tweezers if the entry hole is small). Oh well just a few loose thoughts… ___________________________________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ HHH. Links +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Some sites worth a look: http://www.mazu.com/scams/index.html http://lockpick- nederland.com http://www.americasleastwanted.com/scams/index.shtml http://directory.google.com/Top/Society/Issues/Fraud/?il=1 http://www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/scams_and_rip_offs/index.html http://www.maximonline.com/grit/ cheaters_guide/archive.html I think that pretty much covers it all. Thanks to everyone that contributed to the threads! -TX297