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Morning Stars and UFO's
And Predestination
Rewritten-Updated 10/29/05
Before I was born from above by Father Yahweh's Spirit.
I too saw these "stars" that stood still...
then shot a crossed the skies a great speed! I've seen them with my own eyes... But Not again since I was born from above...And I was led to renounce all Occult involvement prior to being born from above. I believe that is really of importance to all. Renouncing anything having to do with the occult. Even the things done innocently.
I believe that people who have experiences being taken into UFO's have somewhere or somehow been involved with something occult that wasn't repented of. Do this.. repent and name anything you know of, and renounce it. And ask the Holy Spirit to reveal anything needing renounced. Renounce it out loud. Do this even if your are already born from above and Now spirit filled.
It will cancel any legal right satan has to bring more deception in this area. Because These UFO's will still have more to do with the end time deceptions than many people know.
What are these UFO"S ? Here's are my thoughts on it...
May it provoke you to study this too.
I believe they are evil angels.(unclean spirits)
Ps 78:49 and will fit in to the end time delusions.. and Deception...causing great fear among the unlearned...
Ps 78:49 He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them.
The Bible says as it was in the time of Noah so it will be in the last days...The wicked will be destroyed like those in the flood of Noah's time. "As it was in the time of Noah so it will be in the last days "
So what was happening in Noah's time? THE ALTERING OF MAN'S DNA!
The son's of God were visiting earth and taking wife's.. " Mixing" This is where the Nephilim came from... the ... "Giants of man's mythology " They were in reality. off spring of the "sons of God". Read Genesis 6: 1 We have thought of them as the fallen angels. But where they the angels?
Can Angels have offspring?
Mt 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
This verse doesn't mean angels are not able to have sexual encounters, Or lack genital. It only says "For in the resurrection (meaning of men) they neither marry, nor are given in marriage," but are as the angels of God in heaven. It means they are Single, Unmarried. It is simply saying there is no marriage in heaven, i.e. there is no biological reproduction in heaven. It isn't made clear either way. But man is made in the image of the Elohim not in the image of the angels! That would mean the Elohim did have genitals. For we are made in their Image.
Father's word says Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
The son's of God will come again... Yes they are here to seduce and deceive again ...! In different ways, appearing in UFO's is one way. Influencing man to altering mans DNA is another! It's happening again!"
As it was in the time of Noah so it will be in the last days."
Who are theses Sons of God? Are they angelic or something else? And who are the morning stars really?
Predestination
Ge 1:26 And God (Elohiym Plural) said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Ge 1:27 So God (Elohiym Plural) created man in his own image, in the image of (Elohiym Plural) created he him; male and female created he them..
The word for God here is elohiym (plural of elowahh.)
we have been taught it also can mean angels. The word angel also has interchangeable meanings.
But I am wondering if instead Elohim, may mean the Morning stars and the sons of God, And that neither the Morning stars, or the Sons of God were angels at all! But that they were the celestial children of Yahweh! (The Elect and the Ekklesia)
I think that the Name "Elohim" was so COVETED by satan, That through false doctrines satan has deceived us into thinking it met angels! Selah !
The Raliens (a Cult) falsely teach the Elohim were angels and created mankind. That should clue us in. Because satan is always a liar!
I will try and explain why I think the Elohim are the
really the celestial children of Yahweh! and not angels at all.
We were predestined long ago to be born into this earth age.
Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
I think the Elect (Bride) of Yahshua have been given the grace of Father to understand these last days....Or at least are starting to, and that perhaps they are the "morning stars" that over came in the rebellion by standing against Lucifer.
I believe we all come from Father Yahweh. We all existed with him from the beginning, and even before the beginning of "time" it's self...
I think it possible the Elect (bride) were the " morning stars" (Elohim Plural) spoken of in the scriptures.....Yahshua is spoken of as the "Morning star".. But Lucifer is called "son of the morning".
And there are two completely different meanings for the names bright and morning star, and son of the morning!
Son of the morning, is Satan's counterfeit of Yahshua,
"Who is the bright and morning star." satan also calls himself a rock; Yahshua's our Rock. Lucifer, is always counterfeiting Yahshua..understand?
Morning Stars /Word Study
Here are the two completely different meanings for the bright and morning star and son of the morning !
1. Yahshua: the bright and morning star
Re 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
Means a Good and Firm Foundation!
Re 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright bright 2, goodly 2, white 2, gorgeous 1, gay 1, clear 1; 9 and morning
AV-morning 1; 11) early. star strong 2, sure 1, stedfast 1; 4 Foundation
2. Lucifer, son of the morning.
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Should read O Lucifer, angel of Light!
Job 38:7
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? And all the sons of God shouted for joy? Could this be Two groups ? The "Morning Stars" and the "Sons of God." Something to think about.
Could they be the elect and the ekklesia ? Lets explore that thought.
Now Yahshua was not an angel was he! ( I can already hear some one yelling Blasphemy at the very thought!)
That's something to stop and think about. Ok? If He isn't,
(And he's not!) Then neither are the other morning stars angels! understand? Yahshua is called the only "Begotten" 'Son of God'.
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Ah... He's Transformed into an angel of light. If He's transformed. what was he before? It seems He wanted to be like Yahshua! Because Yahshua isn't an angel!! But he is a Morning star !!! This was said to Thyatira: To those who overcome, they were promised the "Morning star". Rev 2:28 And I will give him the morning star. Meaning Yahshua !
Lucifer is called. "O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire." Eze 28:16 Ah.. So Lucifer is an angel of some sort! But Not an angel of light, satan only passes himself off as one!
I can find "angel of light" only once in scripture.
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Then angels of light really means the good angels which satan try's to copy!
But I find No other "angels of light" mentioned anywhere else in scripture! But we do know there are differing types of angels mentioned in the word. So we can see by this satan is a angel, a cherub, and that Yahshua is not. But satan would like us to think he is a morning star! And It seems he wanted to be a Morning star!
Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
This doesn't necessarily mean he was one of Sons of God . But that He walked among them. The term "Sons of God" is also use interchangeable. This is why it isn't readable
clear to us there is a difference. We were told by Abba to seek remember?
But Here we get a clue showing us differences.
Ps 8:4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
Angels (Stars) can simply means a messenger. One sent and it can mean pastor also, as is used in Re 2:1, it seems to be used interchangeably as well.
First we see in Heb 1:7 the angels are spirits!
Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
I Cor 15:39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
So secondly we see here in these verses terrestrial and celestial bodies are different. That means their DNA is different!
That would mean any mixing of the two would cause Hybrids. Which is an "abomination" to Abba Father!
Is it possible this is happening again ? The word says as in the day of Noe! Man is experimenting with cloning even now! And there are reports of UFO abductions. Are The fallen Sons of god again in our skies? Yes. Their are here to deceive.
So stay in the inner court abide in Yahshua!!
Lu 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
Lu 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Destroyed who? All the wicked! Yahshua is our Ark!
Here's my thought: I believe (Morning stars) stood against Lucifer's rebellion in the first earth age.
Long before man's creation. This happened before the first destruction of the earth. The earth was totally covered by a great deluge.. Father destroyed it because of the rebellion of Lucifer.( Not Talking of Noah's flood.)
But of the destruction in the first earth age. IN Gen 1:2 it was found void <0922> whb bohuw bo’- hoo
Here are verses of the those cities destroyed in that earth age.
Isaiah 14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof;
that opened not the house of his prisoners?
This verse is speaking of that first earth age.
Jer. 4:25-26 "I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness."
This had to happen before the creation of man. At no time since the creation of man has the world been made like a wilderness by Satan.
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The I think perhaps the Elects names where written in the book of life from before the foundations of this world.. Re 3:5
The Elect were FORMED on the 8th day .(eighth)
The Elect is The Bride, and are the Lost Sheep and true Israel;
Those Born from above.
The Elect overcame in that first earth age and their names were written in the lambs book of life.. Because they stood against Lucifer then..
But Remember The word warns of names being blotted out of his book.
But I think this was the time of the names being written.. Long ago. I think it was because the Elect also stood against Lucifer and those who followed him in the rebellion.
But Let me state clearly that I believe all persons must repent in this earth age! And be born from above and be washed in the Blood of Christ, Be they Elect or not. For All have sinned and come short! But by reason of their stand against satan then, they were chosen for Election in this earth age. But unless we confess and depart from this fallen nature through repentance and faith in the atoning blood of Yahshua Messiah, we will be eternally condemned to hell.
Mt 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Lu 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
Re 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
I think the Elect and the Morning stars may be one and the same. And that the "Sons of God" were the 6th (sixth day) creation, being the rest of the nations who are to be born into this earth.
If Yahshua isn't a angel and yet he is a morning star; then it is very unlikely the others morning stars are angels either! Selah! Think about it.
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If we were part of the Elohim: Does that make us God?..
NO! NEVER!.. Yahshua alone is the head of his body.
And Yahweh is Our Abba Father. Yahshua's body has only one head! "CHRIST" Otherwise it is a freak of nature and a ANTICHRIST!!!!!
Don't misunderstand.. We are YAHWEH'S CHILDREN, That is all I am saying..
TO BE CARNAL MINDED IS DEATH!.. TO BE CARNAL MINDED IS TO BE A ANTICHRIST !!!!..
WHO IS ANTICHRIST?.. ANY CARNAL MINDED MAN OR WOMAN!!..SO FOLLOW YAHSHUA MESSIAH! Keep your eyes on him!
Ro 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
That means we don't figure these things out with the carnal mind. They come through revelation from Yahweh because we have been seeking and reading and studying with the holy spirit.
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Meaning those who are carnal minded.
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Father helps our spirit to Know truth. Our head doesn't understand But our Spirit longs to return to His Courts of Praise and sing together again! ( In the Heavenly )
Psalms 84:2
My soul longeth, yea, even fainteth for the courts of the LORD: my heart and my flesh crieth out for the living God.
This is the longing in you to return home. Your spirit knows where you came from. 'Let me Clarify I don't think we are indwell-ed by angels or anything like that.
Just that all of us preexisted with Abba father before.
Here my thought. The Sons of God (majority of us) walked this earth then in that first earth age. (Not in flesh bodies. But in the celestial body. ) There were great cities...too all destroyed because of Lucifer's rebellion.
(But Mankind in the flesh had not yet been created in that first earth age.. Understand?)
I am speaking of that first earth age. This is the 2nd earth age this present one that we are born into. The 3rd earth age is to begin as Yahshua returns and gathers us again !
We (Sons of God) enter the earth as Yahshua did...legally through birth.. ( After it was again re-formed. In Gen 1: 2.)
But we are all from the same place and Father Yahweh's spirit!! Some Spirit beings still refuse to enter earth legally! Those You may (or may not) see flying in UFO'S.
Ro 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, <4267> he also did predestinate <4309> to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Whoops! Read that again, Prayerfully.
That he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
So Yahshua is the only "Begotten" son of Yahweh, Meaning He is distinctly the one and only "begotten" son. Don't read into it what it isn't saying. We are all commonly called "Sons" But Yahshua is the only one " begotten " of Yah. and it shows us Yahshua isn't a angel But a Morning Star..
(Did you know that witches wands are made from "Holly Wood"? And are used to cast a spell of slumber?)
Some of the sons of god followed the evil angels in that first earth age rebellion, and they are now here as Hollywood's "Stars" Understand? "Stars" (i.e. a TYPE for rebellious angels.)
likened to Enos, son of Seth, who though belonging to the Generation's of Adam, Departed and went the way of Cain. They preexisted and are also born legally into this last earth age, and are still following satan. They are still choosing rebellion against Abba! Even as they did in the first earth age!
Some are in The Governments! They can be anyone! Small or great. Those who tamper with mans DNA and other abominations. They are TARES, Sown among the Wheat!
Is it the evil angels desire to still be the Elohim?
I think so! Is it their hidden motive to change the DNA of mankind, For their own evil agenda? To lead these deceived "sons" to experiment and perhaps even aid them in it! Has satan ever repented of his desire to be God? No!
Why would he tamper with DNA? "To "create" a altered flesh body to dwell in!" Perhaps one that would live longer and house many demons! They crave a flesh house to live in.
And Demons where do they fit in? Demons are the disembodied spirits of the Nephilum that died. They too play a part in end time deceptions. They are a part of satan's army. They have different ranking and commissions
too. They play the part of Aliens and Ghosts, Miracles And many other such things as do all the unclean spirits that at operating in the spirit realm!
1 Kings 22:
21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before Yahweh, and said, I will persuade him.
22 And Yahweh said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.
23 Now therefore, behold, Yahweh hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and Yahweh hath spoken evil concerning thee.
Re 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
Ps 104:4 Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:
So Angels also are called spirits! and they can be evil! and demonic!
Actually The word usually is rendered devil! rather than demon. Meaning An Evil spirit.
Devil
(Gr. diabolos), a slanderer, the arch-enemy of man’s spiritual interest #Job 1:6 Re 2:10 Zec 3:1 He is called also "the accuser of the brethen" #Re 12:10 In #Le 17:7 the word "devil" is the translation of the Hebrew _sair_, meaning a "goat" or "satyr" #Isa 13:21 34:14 alluding to the wood-daemons, the objects of idolatrous worship among the heathen. In #De 32:17 Ps 106:37 it is the translation of Hebrew _shed_, meaning lord, and idol, regarded by the Jews as a "demon," as the word is rendered in the Revised Version. In the narratives of the Gospels regarding the "casting out of devils" a different Greek word (daimon) is used. In the time of our Lord there were frequent cases of demoniacal possession #Mt 12:25-30 Mr 5:1-20 #Lu 4:35 10:18 etc.
Mt 8:16 When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick:
But the abiding believer has authority over them! evil angels or devils or demon, they are all unclean spirits.
Mr 5:8 For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.
Mt 10:1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
Lu 7:21 And in that same hour he cured many of their infirmities and plagues, and of evil spirits; and unto many that were blind he gave sight.
Lu 8:2 And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities,
We have been taught mainly that man is possessed by spirits actually it can be oppressed by spirits also. Either can happen.
All are rebellious evil spirits
The Elect did not rebel as they did ... We overcame then, by standing against Lucifer, during that first earth age! That is why the Elect are chosen for this time (Last hour)to expose the man of sin!! That is why their names are in the book of life... Then and now!... "If " They continue to the end in faith..
Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Mt 10:26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
It is the last hour ... This is why this is being revealed.. The battle still continues between the
"Morning Stars" ! many who rebelled and followed satan in that first earth age are now here too.
Father desires to brings forth the mind of Christ in his children, "Ekklesia" to bring them out of Babylon, Through the travail of the Woman. (The Elect / Bride)... now do you begin to see why we will be hated by all mankind?
And some be slain for their faith? The religious spirit will never hear or believe this.. You ask Abba to show you this. He's promised to confirm the word of his servant.
I don't expect people to just take my word for it. Ask Abba. Ask him to confirm it. Seek him.
Mr 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
"If it were possible" It is Not. Not totally. That's why they were Chosen for this last hour! Or there would be no one left to sound the alarm! And proclaim the revealing of that 'man of sin'. 2 Thess 2 ...Understand?
Mr 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect’s sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days..
(It is a HUGE deception.) Remember The Whole world has already been deceived! There are only a small remnant who receive the truth.
Re 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
There is a difference between the Elect and the Ekklesia;
Ekklesia are the ten virgins. The Wise and foolish with lamps.
Song of songs 8:8 ¶ We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts: what shall we do for our sister in the day when she shall be spoken for?
9 If she be a wall, we will build upon her a palace of silver: and if she be a door, we will inclose her with boards of cedar.
The (Elect) Bride is a Wall. We are to make the little sister (Ekklesia) a wall also, if possible.
Only those truly born from above....who love the truth can receive revelation. It is all written in his word.. The Holy Spirit reveals it as we seek..
Matt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
upon this rock, The Rock of (Revelation.) Yahshua is the Living word that reveals truth. The only Foundation. Understand? There is a storm coming! (Tribulation) are you build upon the rock, or have you built upon the sand? Mt 7:26
Revelation 12:15
And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman,
that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
Revelation 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth,
and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
We will not be deceived by the great deluge that is sweeping away the peoples....
the deceived swallow his lies..... The Holy Spirit will continue to reveal and confirm these things I've shared with you.. If you'll ask Him to..
And the word will open to you as a if a veil were
removed from your eyes.. as He leads you through
His word it will come alive as never before!
I am prophesying now by His Spirit it is on me heavily!
read all of
Isaiah 14: 4 - 32
That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon,
and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! The golden city ceased!
V:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
This is Holy Spirit history....
Also see:
Stars
Daniel 12: 1- 13
Ro 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, <4267> he also did predestinate <4309> to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Ro 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
Foreknow
4267 proginoskw proginosko prog-in-oce’-ko
from 4253 and 1097; TDNT-1:715,119; v
AV-foreknow 2, foreordain 1, know 1, know before 1; 5
1) to have knowledge before hand
2) to foreknow
2a) of those whom God elected to salvation
3) to predestinate
Predestinate
4309 proorizw proorizo pro-or-id’-zo
from 4253 and 3724; TDNT-5:456,728; v
AV-predestinate 4, determine before 1, ordain 1; 6
1) to predetermine, decide beforehand
2) in the NT of God decreeing from eternity
3) to foreordain, appoint beforehand
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