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Was Gordon B. Hinckley telling the truth?
President Gordon B. Hinckley blames the press — for misquoting him despite the fact that he said basically the same thing, on three different occasions, and they were reported by three separate sources of the "public press". In an August 4, 1997 Time cover story, when asked by religion writer Richard N. Ostling about the Mormon teaching that men can become gods, and that God the Father was once a man President Hinckley played the naïve uninformed Church leader.
Time responded to President Hinckley's declaration of being misquoted with a complete quotation of the question and answer as follows:
— Q: There are some significant differences in your beliefs. For instance, don't Mormons believe that God was once a man?
A: I wouldn't say that. There was a little couplet coined, ``As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become.'' Now that's more of a couplet than anything else. That gets into some pretty deep theology that we don't know very much about.
Q: So you're saying the church is still struggling to understand this?
A: Well, as God is, man may become. We believe in eternal progression. Very strongly. We believe that the glory of God is intelligence and whatever principle of intelligence we attain unto in this life, it will rise with us in the Resurrection. Knowledge, learning, is an eternal thing. And for that reason, we stress education. We're trying to do all we can to make of our people the ablest, best, brightest people that we can.
As quoted in Time Magazine, Aug 4, 1997: when asked by religion writer Richard N. Ostling.
Q: Just another related question that comes up is the statements in the King Follet discourse by the Prophet.
Q: ... about that, God the Father was once a man as we were. This is something that Christian writers are always addressing. Is this the teaching of the church today, that God the Father was once a man like we are?
A: I don't know that we teach it. I don't know that we emphasize it. I haven't heard it discussed for a long time in public discourse. I don't know. I don't know all the circumstances under which that statement was made. I understand the philosophical background behind it. But I don't know a lot about it and I don't know that others know a lot about it.
President Hinckley apparently now wishes to hide from the public what Joseph Smith, founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints seemed to fully understood concerning the character or personality of God.
For those who are not familiar with Joseph Smith's King Follet Discourse, made in April 7, 1844, here is the text as it appears in the History of the Church:
After this clear statement of Joseph Smithhow could President Hinckley say: "I don't know a lot about it and I don't know that others know a lot about it".
Is it possible that he never heard about the teachings of Milton R. Hunter's?
Did not President Hinckley ever read about the knowledge of Brigham Young on the subject?
Some Bible teachers may not have difficulty understanding that Adam begat a son in his own likeness, after his image Genesis 5:3, but can't believe that God created man in his [own] image and likeness as illustrated in Genesis 1:26-27
3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat [a son] in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Even though they may have some of the characteristics of men they where not created to our image, after our likeness. With out the same chromosomes they don't have the look and don't have the attributes that could make them qualify, as a human image. An image is picture, a portrait or a reproduction of a human being or of any other living or non-living things in its totality.
Even though they eat and feel pain, reproduces, die in a comparable way, we all know that chimpanzees and apes don't have the ability to learn and better them selves and improve and eased their living on this earth as we do. They don't have the mental aptitude to build cars, computers or space ships to go to another planet as men may do. They always lived that way in the past and will be living the same way in millions of years from now.
The Bible tells us that not only men were created at the image and likeness of God but tells us also that men are gods. Any man denying this must deny the following verses of the Bible.
6 I have said, Ye [are] gods; and all of you [are] children of the most High.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
On one hand he says: "That gets into some pretty deep theology that we don't know very much about" and on the other hand Gordon B. Hinckley says: "Now we don't need a lot of continuing revelation. We have a great, basic reservoir of revelation."
David Ransom: INTERVIEW WITH PRESIDENT GORDON B. HINCKLEY: November 09, 1997
Gordon B. Hinckley needs to explain why his predecessors believed differently.
Brigham Young said:
"Well, Brother Brigham, have you had visions?" Yes, I have. "Have you had revelations?" Yes, I have them all the time, I live constantly by the principle of revelation. I never received one iota of intelligence, from the letter A to what I now know, I mean that, from the very start of my life to this time, I have never received one particle of intelligence, only by revelation, no matter whether father or mother revealed it, or my sister, or neighbour.
President Hinckley does not completely reject the idea of receiving revelations today but When asked by David Ransom if he has a special connection with God because he is the leader of the Church and if he receive revelations President Hinckley shyly answered with out a clear yes on no: "For the entire Church". When asked again by David Ransom: "You receive?" Gordon B. Hinckley answered: ""Now we don't need a lot of continuing revelation. We have a great, basic reservoir of revelation". I beleive that there are some significant differences in Hinckley's beliefs he has moved away from the teachings of many of his predecessors, like Brigham Young and James E. Talmage who lived under constant revelations.
2. The Doctrine of No Further Revelation, New and False -- "The history of the people of God, from the earliest ages, shows that continued revelation was the only way by which they could possible learn all their duties or God's will concerning them. They never once thought that the revelations given to previous generations were sufficient to guide them into every duty. A doctrine which rejects new revelation is a new doctrine, invented by the devil and his agents during the second century after Christ; it is a doctrine in direct opposition to the one believed in and enjoyed by the saints in all ages. _ If they wish their new doctrine to be believed, let them demonstrate it to be of divine origin, or else all people will be justified in rejecting it and clinging to the old." -- Orson Pratt, Divine Authenticity of the Book of Mormon, 1 (2) 15, 16.
Obviously Gordon B. Hinckley needs a lot of continuing revelation.
By Real Courchesne
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