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15:33:17 -0800 |
>Date: Thu, 04
Feb 1999 18:39:05 -0600
>From:
"David E. Sahar" <SaharMD@pol.net>
>Subject: Re: Hekmat Sadat's Letter
>To: st88269e@drexel.edu
>Cc: Abdullah
<IRIHAT@aol.com>,
jewel@drexel.edu,
> Farid Maiwandi <farid@designpro.com>,
> Belquis Ahmadi <acbaar@radio.psh.brain.net.pk>,
> Shafiq Ahmadi <shafiqahmadi@hotmail.com>,
Wajma Ahmady
> "Dr. Homayoun Shah Aminyar" <homayoun@erols.com>,
> Ahmad Etemadi <ahest7+@pitt.edu>, Katrin
Fakiri
> Ahmad Gholam <Ahmed.Gholam@teol.lu.se>,
Shafiq Jamal
> Jan Mohammad
<janm@U.Arizona.EDU>,
Ibrahim Nasseri <imkhan@usa.net>,
> Fariba Nawa <fnawa@hotmail.com>,
Fariba Nawa
> Wali Noori <WNoori01@sprintspectrum.com>,
> Hosai Omarkhil <hmomarkhil@ucdavis.edu>,
> Mahmoud Samizay <msamizay@osf1.gmu.edu>,
> Farahnaz Yaqubi <murwari@hotmail.com>,
> Omar Zakhilwal <hozakhil@ccs.carleton.ca>,
> Khalida mirzada <queenheart22@hotmail.com>,
> Aracozai <ARACOZAI@worldnet.att.net>
>Reply-to: SaharMD@pol.net
>
>To the
esteemed Editors of the Mosaic Magazine:
>
>The issues
brought up recently by Fareda jan and others are important
and require
>close
attention. The fact that we are
debating and pondering upon
possible solutions
>in a
meaningful manner is a great sign of an intelectual
group, as
many
organizations
>as well as
governments in
issues
and even
>collapsed due
lack of communication and/or compromise.
>
>Language,
evolutionary speaking, was developed to efficiently relay
information from
>one to other to increase cooperation and thus survival of
that group.
At the same
>time language
holds a sentimental value to the members of the putative
group due to
>emotions it
evokes. In
to
push forward
>personal
agendas and thus disunity, which goes with out saying that
such
>circumstances is not fit for survival as a group. Though
ideally I
would like to see
>all languages
in
including Dari,
>Pashtu,
Turkic languages (primarily Uzbek and Turkmen), and 30 other
minor languages
>(primarily Balochi and Pashai), as one can
readily see it is not
practical. By adding
>each
additional language, we are adding an order of magnitude more
labor and time to
>publishing
each issue. One must remember from basic
business classes
that there is
>an
opportunity cost to every task we initiate. By alocating
more time
to one task, we
>are taking
away time from another. I applaud Fareda jan
for her
patience and a good
>job of
striking a balance between English and the endogenous
languages.
>
>Since the
advantages of having a multilingual magazine have
already
been stated, I
>will try to
state some of the pros of having Mosaic in English only.
>
>1. It would
be significantly less laborious and time consuming-even if
we have the
>word
processing software for other languages
>2. The
quality of the magazine may improve since designing of
multilingual magazine
>require more
creativity and custom designing, e.g. script, writing
left
to write vs.
>right
to left, etc. The magazine will be more easily read if in one
language.
>3. By using
one language we can all critique and evaluate articles,
should the need
>arise. This will increase the productivity,
consensus, pool of
editors
and
>confidence
of ALL editors on the magazaine. It is difficult
for some
editors to
>assess the
political nature of an article if he/she is not fluent in
an
appreciable
>level with
that language. How could we ALL have
evaluated Hekmat
jan's
article if it
>was in only
one of the endogenous languages?
>4. Let us not
forget that language is a volatile subject among many
Afghans. Despite
>our hard
work, there may be some who will find an imbalance between
Pashtu and Dari
>and may start
activity against our magazine. Though it
is illogical,
and sad, that
>these Afghans
would object to an endogenous language but not English,
nonetheless
>that appears
to be the case.
>5. English
renders itself easy to manipulation by most if not all of
the editors, as
>most of us
are familiar with English word processors. The transfer of
articles via
>email is
relatively easier in English, as most internet softwares
are
designed in
>English.
Scanned files are send as attachments which take more
time
and
space and
>difficult
if not impossible to edit by the recipient.
>6. Most of
our young who were raised and educated in
get
the same
>pleasure as
we do when they read Deri or Pashtu
poetry. They may be
more versed in
>written Arabic(due to attendance to Mosques) than local Afghan
literatures. As a
>matter of
fact, many of them may think it is "boring". Writing in
English may be
>more
effective in educating our young of our history and culture and
stirring their
>interest
in Afghan affairs.
>
>As I mensioned earlier, I would like to see Pashto and Deri articles
and I enjoy
>reading
articles written in these endogenous languages of
Furthermore,
>I appreciate
the importance of preservation of our languages which
constitute part of
>our culture
and would eventually like see endogenous languages printed
in Mosaic.
>However, for
practical purposes and given our current circumstances, I
must admit
>that I am on
the same line of thought as Fareda jan after evaluating
this
>issue(please see above). However, if we are ready for the
challenge,
have the energy
>(as it appears to
be) and if the majority is in favor(specially Fareda
jan since she
>is doing bulk
of the work), as borther Jan Mohammad stated, I will
just
have to live
>with it:)
>
>As far as the
political articles are concerned, it is hard to
distinguish settle
>differences. What source is credible? What exactly constitute a
propaganda and
>where is the
fine line? At times some truth can be
withheld and
others
exposed,
>leading to a
biased publication. In other words, one
does not
necessarily need to
>lie to
misinform the public. Perhaps we
need to institute a voting
system where the
>majority will
dictate an articles destiny and a tie vote will be
dictaded by Fareda
>jan. Again, this would be more
feasible if all articles were in
English. Those with
>experience
in Journalism/Mass Communications and Law please comment.
>
>Finally, I
look forward to reading articles on Afghan languages by Jan
Mohammad,
>Afghan
Society and the Cold War era by Wali jan, Mohammood
Tarzi by
Farid jan,
>Afghan youth
interviews by Katrin jan and future contributions by
Hosai
jan.
>
>
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15:32:15 -0800 |
Hekmat jan salam,
Sorry, I didn't
get a chance to edit the irrelevant
contents out of these
e-mails. I hope you don't mind
fighting your way through
to finding the relevant
material.
Fareda
--------------------
>Date: Thu, 04
Feb 1999 01:34:43 -0800
>From:
ARACOZAI <ARACOZAI@worldnet.att.net>
>Subject: Re:
Dari/Pashto articles
>To: janm@U.Arizona.EDU,
Fareda Ahmadi <st88269e@drexel.edu>
>Cc: Abdullah
<IRIHAT@aol.com>,
jewel@drexel.edu,
> Farid Maiwandi <farid@designpro.com>,
> Belquis Ahmadi <acbaar@radio.psh.brain.net.pk>,
> Shafiq Ahmadi <shafiqahmadi@hotmail.com>,
Wajma Ahmady
> "Dr. Homayoun Shah Aminyar" <homayoun@erols.com>,
> Ahmad Etemadi <ahest7+@pitt.edu>, Katrin
Fakiri
> Ahmad Gholam <Ahmed.Gholam@teol.lu.se>,
Shafiq Jamal
> Ibrahim Nasseri <imkhan@usa.net>,
Fariba Nawa <fnawa@hotmail.com>,
> Fariba Nawa <fnawa@angnewspapers.com>,
> Wali Noori <WNoori01@sprintspectrum.com>,
> Hosai Omarkhil <hmomarkhil@ucdavis.edu>,
Edris Sahar
> Mahmoud Samizay <msamizay@osf1.gmu.edu>,
> Farahnaz Yaqubi <murwari@hotmail.com>,
> Omar Zakhilwal <hozakhil@ccs.carleton.ca>,
> Khalida mirzada <queenheart22@hotmail.com>
>Reply-to: ARACOZAI@worldnet.att.net
>
>Salam EVERYBODY,
>I am probably a "Johnny come late" to
the discussion about Hekmatullah
>Jan's "Nest of Terrorism".
>Good job Hekmatullah
Jan! Very informative.
>
>To my personal dismay and with great reluctance,
I can only recommend
that
>given the charged political atmosphere, which
our communities are
currently
>experiencing, it will be best for the survival
of Mosaic to remain
void
of
>political articles. Inclusion of any article which paints any of the
>warring sides (good or bad), implicitly or
explicitly, should be
excluded
>from Mosaic.
>
>My personal
experience within the Afghan community has taught me that
>people will
view Mosaic with suspicion once they read a POLITICAL
article
>of
ANY type.
>I can
understand the frustration of anybody who would like Mosaic to
>contain such
articles.
>Believe me,
when the time is right for such articles, I will be the
first
>to
push for it. Those who know me, from my infrequent writings, will
tell
>you that most
of my writings ARE political.
>But, like I
said, if we want Mosaic to survive and be successful, then
let
>us just keep it informative in every other way, save being
labeled
>political.
>
>
>I would also
like to support Hosai Jan's suggestion for having
profile
of
>prominent
Afghans.
>In fact,
>Fareda Jan,
>I can start
writing one on Mohammood Tarzi
for the next issue. (by the
way
>I would still
like to know the deadline for submitting our next
articles)
>I have Mr. Habibi's "Junbish-i Mashrutiat", in which he dedicates a
whole
>chapter
to Mahmood Tarzi. I can either
translate it to English, or I
can
>re-type it in
Dari.
>
>Speaking of
Dari/Pashto, ALL THOSE INTERESTED:
>please send
your addresses so I can send you the Pashto/Dari software.
>[NOTE: ALL
REQUESTS SHOULD BE ACCOMPANIED BY $500.00 CASH]
>(just kidding!)
>So far I have
Omar Jan, Abdullah Jan, and ?
>The software
I have, is called, GammaUniverse. (one
word)
>
>
>Jan Mohamood Jan,
>I like your
idea of soliciting Dari/Pashto articles from other
Afghans.
>In addition,
we can always find material that we can bring directly
from
>books and
publish it in Mosaic, albeit, with the credit going to the
>original
writer.
>(by the way, did I
read Omar Jan calling you "gray bearded uncle"?!
>I can
understand his good manners when he calls you "uncle" BUT what
is
>this
"gray bearded" business all about? My suspicions about your age
are
>becoming a
reality!!)
>
>
>Katrin Jan,
>I can help
you with getting info on Rahman Baba. Just let me
know,
whether
>you want it
in Pashto, Dari, or English.
>I have his
complete Deewan and a very brief info about himself
contained in
>"Pata Khazana" or "The
Hidden Treasure"
>As you know,
very little is known about Rahman Baba's personal
life,
very
>unlike
Khushal Khan Khattak.
>Please
contact me, we will discuss it.
>(by the way, I was
at the bookstore today, I am still looking for your
two
>books.)
>
>
>Fareda Jan,
>I took Mashal to dinner tonight and discussed the upcoming
interview.
>I am not sure, how you plan to
conduct the interview. But if you want
to
>forward your
questions to me, I will have him answer. Or are you going
to
>call him?
>Please advise on the logistics.
>
>Wali Jan,
>You worte: "I feel very happy and honored to be working
with a brand
new
>intelligent,
>energetic,
and caring generation of
Afghan intellectuals."
>Your
compliments are appreciated. Although, we might be
>"energetic..caring..intelligent..
and all that" BUT we are not "brand
new".
>Some of us
are "gray bearded"
>
>Finally, just
to "beat on the dead horse" of Dari/Pashto, may I make a
>suggestion.
>Why not
dedicate one page of the magazine to the Afghan folklore,
>exemplified
in traditional Dari Char-bayti and the Pastho Landai.
>In other
words, have the Char-bayti and the Landai share one page of
the
>magazine,
in every issue.
>
>Have a great
Day Everybody!
>
>
>Pa Deera Dranawi
>Farid Maiwandi
>
>
>
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15:28:30 -0800 |
>Date: Tue, 02
Feb 1999 23:20:45 -0500 (EST)
>From: IRIHAT@aol.com
>Subject: Re:
Politics or No Politics
>To: st88269e@drexel.edu,
Farid Maiwandi <arid@designpro.com>,
> Belquis Ahmadi <acbaar@radio.psh.brain.net.pk>,
> Shafiq Ahmadi <shafiqahmadi@hotmail.com>,
Wajma Ahmady
> "Dr. Homayoun Shah Aminyar" <homayoun@erols.com>,
> Ahmad Etemadi <ahest7+@pitt.edu>, Ahmad Gholam
> Shafiq Jamal <jamals@ece.ucdavis.edu>,
Jan Mohammad
> Ibrahim Nasseri <imkhan@usa.net>,
Fariba Nawa <fnawa@hotmail.com>,
> Fariba Nawa <fnawa@angnewspapers.com>,
> Wali Noori <WNoori01@sprintspectrum.com>,
> Hosai Omarkhil <hmomarkhil@ucdavis.edu>,
Edris Sahar
> Mahmoud Samizay <msamizay@osf1.gmu.edu>,
> Farahnaz Yaqubi <murwari@hotmail.com>,
> Omar Zakhilwal <hozakhil@ccs.carleton.ca>,
> Khalida mirzada <queenheart22@hotmail.com>,
> Aracozai <ARACOZAI@worldnet.att.net>
>
>Salaam
everyone,
>Recently, we
have had some interesting and productive E-Dialogues
regarding
>issues of
publishing Dari and Pashto articles, brainstorming about
providing
>an
entertainment section in the Mosaic, and not to forget, the
inclusion of
>articles with sound political agendas.......
>Here is my two cents regarding publishing
articles with political
>overtones.......Publishing these articles is
like opening Pandora's
Box. I am
>looking forward to it with excitement and a
certain degree of
reservation.
>There will be unforeseen problems. No matter how hard we try, we are
bound to
>step on someone's sacred cow, sort of
speak. With that in mind, we
should
>still definitley give
it a shot. It is worth a try. Wali jaan has
made some
>good suggestions and has come up with some very
good guidelines. We
can
>also, as Hekmat jaan suggested, attach a disclaimer to each article
written by
>contributors to let our readers know that the
opinions expressed in
these
>articles are solely that of the author....I think I have
said more
than
my
>share of the
two cents....so I am going to leave you now with a very
profound
>question....Why
did the chicken cross the road? Just
kidding
everyone!:))
>Have a great
day and Khuda Hafiz.
>Abdullah Tahiri
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>Date: Tue, 02
Feb 1999 15:29:54 -0700 (MST)
>From: janm@U.Arizona.EDU
>Subject: Re:
Dari/Pashto articles
>To: Fareda Ahmadi <st88269e@drexel.edu>
>Cc: Abdullah
<IRIHAT@aol.com>,
jewel@mail.ocs.drexel.edu,
> Farid Maiwandi <farid@designpro.com>,
> Belquis Ahmadi <acbaar@radio.psh.brain.net.pk>,
> Shafiq Ahmadi <shafiqahmadi@hotmail.com>,
Wajma Ahmady
> "Dr. Homayoun Shah Aminyar" <homayoun@erols.com>,
> Ahmad Etemadi <ahest7+@pitt.edu>, Katrin
Fakiri
> Ahmad Gholam <Ahmed.Gholam@teol.lu.se>,
Shafiq Jamal
> Ibrahim Nasseri <imkhan@usa.net>,
Fariba Nawa <fnawa@hotmail.com>,
> Fariba Nawa <fnawa@angnewspapers.com>,
> Wali Noori <WNoori01@sprintspectrum.com>,
> Hosai Omarkhil <hmomarkhil@ucdavis.edu>,
Edris Sahar
> Mahmoud Samizay <msamizay@osf1.gmu.edu>,
> Farahnaz Yaqubi <murwari@hotmail.com>,
> Omar Zakhilwal <hozakhil@ccs.carleton.ca>,
> Khalida mirzada <queenheart22@hotmail.com>,
> Aracozai <ARACOZAI@worldnet.att.net>
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>
>Salaam ba
>
[cut]
>
>2) About
inclusion of materials of political nature in our magazine, I
>agree with
brother Wali's comments. Every Afghan's life is
affected by
>politics
in one way or another. To exclude such articles from our
magazine
>would mean
ignoring one of the most importatn aspect of our
daily
lives.
>However, we
need to have specific and unambiguous criteria as to what
gets
>published and
what does not. I agree with most of the criteria
suggested
>by
brother Wali. Perhaps, we can add to that list
as we go on. Based
on
>the
guidelines suggested by brother Wali, it is my
understanding that
>there will be
no room for political propaganda, commentaries or
articles
>which
explicitly or implicitly are at odds with our country's and
people's
>interests
in general and our magazine's objectives in particular.
>
>But, let me
bring up another isssue here. In the past we had had
>editorials
which dealt with politics published in the magazines. I
think
>such
editorial should be excluded from meeting the criteria which
apply
to
>other
articles. (Do I make sense?)
>
>3) The article about terrorism is interesting.
Based on my initial
>reading, I think the author doesn't completely
achieve his objectives
>outlined in the intro of his article. I can be
more specific if you
all
>think the subject matter of the article is both approperiate and
>interesting to be published in our
magazine.
>
>4) I agree
with Hosai jan's
suggestion regarding publishing a profile
of
>an important
Afghan (from the past or present) or an outstanding
student.
>If not in
every isssue, we should at least have one in every
other
issue.
>
>5) And
finally, I didn't see any suggestions about including or
improving
>the
section dealing with 'fun'. I would like to see us publish
original
>Afghan jokes,
puzzles, and proverbs. And what about a cross-word
puzzle?
>Believe it or
not I have been working for a long time to prepare one.
I
>have half of
it down so far. It is aimed at challenging the young
>generation's knowledge
of Afghan history, geography and, of course,
>vocabulary
inventory. If you all agree to see it in the next issue,
>then, I will
ship it to Fareda jan ASAP:)
>
>De Khudai paamaan,
>Jan Mohammad
>
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Hekmat jan
salam!
Unfortunatly, I was not able to find the entire discussion
held between our editorial board back in January, in
regards
to
your Nest of Terrisom. But I have sent you a few and
still
may have some more e-mails. Ahmad jan, below, obviously misun
derstood your name and is reffering
to you as "Hekmat", I am
sorry about that.
But I have forwarded your revised article to
everyone and
told them you would be joining our discussion group
temporarily
next week. So get yourself prepared to attack or be
attacked :)
Till next time
Fareda
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>Date: Tue, 02
Feb 1999 22:02:52 +0100
>From: Ahmed.Gholam@teol.lu.se
>Subject:
Mosaic
>To: st88269e@drexel.edu
>Cc: janm@U.Arizona.EDU,
hozakhil@ccs.carleton.ca,
farid@designpro.com,
> IRIHAT@aol.com,
katrinfakiri@hotmail.com,
jewel@mail.ocs.drexel.edu,
> acbaar@radio.psh.brain.net.pk,
shafiqahmadi@hotmail.com,
> homayoun@erols.com,
ahest7+@pitt.edu, jamals@ece.ucdavis.edu,
> fnawa@hotmail.com,
fnawa@angnewspapers.com,
> hmomarkhil@ucdavis.edu,
saharmd@pol.net,
msamizay@osf1.gmu.edu,
> murwari@hotmail.com,
queenheart22@hotmail.com,
>
>Salam everyone,
>
>Very
important issues, regarding the magazine, have been discussed
and
>I have been
following it with great interest.
>
>A) I agree with Fareda
jan regarding the article
about Osama.
>
>Hekmat jan: I have been reading your
article. It is good and
logical,
>but the case of our man is a very complicated
one.
>As far as I know, it is a little early to blame
Osama for all the
>misery and shortcomings back home. When it comes
to Osama we are
>dealing with top-level politics, specially that
of US towards
>
covered
>by media or internet me or you.
>Osama interests me as well and I think I have
collected everything
on
>the net about him. But when I read the material, it can't give me
>satisfactory answers about him.
>US is hiding its Afghan
policy behind the name of Osama. The
tragedy
>of our nation is reduced to one man's existence
in our country, all
US
>relations depend on the future of Osama. What is
this and who
belive
>this?
>
>It would take alot of
time to discuss Osama. With all due respect
to
>you Hekmat jan, the above is my personal
opinion about the issue.
But
>it is your article and you know best what to do
with it. My opinion
>dosen't mean that I like the man, but just to forward my thoughts
>about him. I hope you don't take it personaly.
>
>B) My second
agreement goes to those who defended the rights of
Pashto
>and
Dari in the Mosaic. THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY DOUBTS ABOUT THIS
ISSUE
>AND IT SHOULD
BE CLEAR AND OBVIOUS FOR ALL OF US!!!
>I CAN NOT
understand this %-talks. Pashto and Dari are our tow
>national and
official languages, keeping alive alive is our
national
>deuty!
>Hosai jan's
remark made me very sad, that she is not able to read
and
>write her
national languages. I assume that there are alot of
people
>in
your situation. It is a very seriouse shortage of
Afghan
community
>in the
>their
national languages. Fortunately here in
>children,
like the children of other nationalities, have the right
to
>recieve education in their national languages. There are Afghan
>teachers who
teach them in holly Qoran, pashto and dari. Even adolt
>illiterate
Afghans are learning Pashto and Dari.
>
>Hosai jan
made me think of caligraphy and "minatory"
in pashto and
>dari. I know a young and very promising Afghan, who is
both Khatat
and
>Naqash in Minatory. I think he would be very interested to
contribute.
>A nice pice of poetry in pashto
or dari, in minatury, would
be very
>suitable
and appropriate in the Mosaic. Suggestions are welcomed.
>
>C) I don't
think it is necessary to cut (cencure) articles. It
is
>always the
author who is responsible for the contents of his
article,
>not
the magazine (Mosaic). But it is the responsibilty
of the
editores
>to
judje the quality of an article. Their judjment should be based
on
>impartiality
and democracy. For example if there is an article
which
>is against islam or anyother
religion, the national interests and
>unity of
>editors find
it difficult to judje the quality, then it must be
>discussed
collectively among the staff.
>
>My opinion is
that we let, as much as possible, the original
articles
>be published.
Beside that Mosaic should give Afghan academic
material
>have the periority, since it is a student magazine, as far I
>understand.
>
>Moreover, we
must respect and encourage the spirit and traditions
of
>democracy
(freedom of speach and thoughts) within the Mosaic. That
is
>in
accordance to our religion and laws.
>
>Thank you for
taking your time.
>
>Ahmad
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