Sunday, 4 June 2006 - 1:08 PM PDT

Let's all hope a clean election prevails!

Wednesday, 14 June 2006 - 12:11 AM PDT

The mudslinging has started. Too bad. Thought this was going to be clean. DUCK!

Saturday, 17 June 2006 - 6:37 PM PDT

Mike, not only that, but he also was caught with his hand in the cookie jar when he was the Lincoln County Sheriff. At least twice, he was ordered to pay back funds missing from his budget. Once he put in a phoney claim for airline tickets to go to a non-existant meeting. He soon after that resigned as Sheriff. Nobody resigns from an elected job unless there is crookedness going on. His website is a crock. He left out alot and I'm sure for good reason. Morale at the police department he worked at was rock bottom. This is a guy we want here???? I think not. If he doesn't pull his name from the race, I might have to take out an ad and post all the newspaper articles from his stints in both places. His call. While I'm at it, there isn't one person I know who doesn't like Bob Kahn. However, he is NOT, repeat NOT, capable of performing the job as Sheriff. He wouldn't know what the inside of a police car even looks like. True, that's not a criteria for a Sheriff, but he is out of touch. He needs to stick with his DARE stuff. That just leaves Charlie and Allen. Charlie is NOT the person he portrays to be. Charlie will end up losing the election due to his inability to take things as they are. Charlie is under the impression you have to beat up the competition, as evidenced with his attack of the candidates last time around. Allen Veil knows area, knows the personnel. I'm voting for the only logical candidate, Allen Veil. I urge everyone to do their homework.

Saturday, 17 June 2006 - 10:50 PM PDT

Wow, was that one of the candidates the other night slapping his wife around while she was drunk? I thought that was against the law. Maybe just a rumor........or maybe not

Saturday, 17 June 2006 - 11:58 PM PDT

I know Mr. Kahn and he is a nice sweet man. He should be running a bakery, not in charge of an entire county law enforcement group. A friend of mine lives up in Lincoln County, has for 45 years. She knows full well the shenanagans pulled by Mr. John. Unfortunately for both of them, come August 16th, the only thing these two will have in common is their both out and about yanking their signs off people's property.

Thursday, 29 June 2006 - 6:41 PM PDT

The following is a letter sent to the Mason Valley News after reading a ridiculous letter from former Deputy Paul Troche. I also in the meantime have found another Lyon County Election site at http://www.tele-net.net/~bellringer

Reading Mr. Troche's letter, I can't help thinking what was his motive here??? Certainly not that Mr. Veil is a poor supervisor. Mr. Troche's letter is quite clear on the fact that Mr. Veil supervised the entire operation. THATS WHAT A SUPERVISOR DOES!!!!! He does NOT get involved with the nuts and bolts of the operation at hand but is there to coordinate, which in this letter is very clear this was the case. Now let's address the fact that one of the letter's was written by a subordinate of Mr. Weller, Director of Public Safety at the time, and not Mr. Weller. Unless Mr. Weller ran a slipshod organization, which I highly doubt, every letter with his name on the letterhead that leaves any office of that organization is authorized and condoned by him. Yes, I read that letter too and it is quite clear who wrote it, Wendy Armstrong. She did NOT send that letter out without Mr. Weller's permission, I can almost guarantee that. And, even if she did, so what. It still doesn't alter the fact that Mr. Veil surpervised the operation. And let's face it, we are trying to elect someone here who will SUPERVISE the other Deputies. I have read alot of things about other candidates that haven't yet surfaced here on the old MVN. I read them on the website that I found on a search at http://www.angelfire.com/blog/bellringer. Mr. Troche's comments are lame and tame compared to other information I have seen about this race. I really thought this was going to be a clean "tell me what you are going to do" type race. Mr. Troche, all you have done is convince the public that Mr. Veil knows how to supervise his troops and get the job done. While I'm at it, addressing the other lame letter from Diana Goodman, if Mr. Duke was the only one that showed up, I hardly think that's a reason to vote for him. Two of the other candidates have something called a JOB and just possibly they got tied up. I know Mr. Veil for a fact has many 12-14 hour days. Before you just throw in the towel and vote, you may want to go to the above website and see some of the comments made or make one of your own. Let's end this he said/she said garbage and stick with the facts. Mr. Troche, I'm sure Mr. Veil appreciates your comments about his supervisory capabilites. After all, the lab was taken down right?????

Friday, 30 June 2006 - 1:59 AM PDT

I too read that pathetic excuse of a letter and it is clear that one of the other candidates other than of course Mr. Veil talked him into writing this. Mr. Veil should be doing cartwheels after that letter. Mr. Troche, while trying to smear Mr. Veil, actually convinced me to vote for Mr. Veil. I was impressed a couple of weeks ago with his letter to the editor and now this. Dirty tactics have always been a part of the election process. I know of Mr. Troche and there is a reason he is not there anymore. We'll just leave it at that. Mr. Duke, I don't give one crap about what you did or think you did at LAPD. I know you were given the gate as there was no job for you to perform in your limited duty state. Oh shoot, I went to your website and you failed to mention that. When you moved to Nevada, did your ailment just magically disappear? Ron Jon, pack it up. Not a prayer do you have. I read the other comments about you on here. That's all I needed to read. Mr. Kahn, you are one of the nicest people in the county. Stick to teaching and let a real law enforcement officer lead the LCSO into the next 4 years.

Saturday, 1 July 2006 - 9:34 AM PDT

I've read all your comments and except for Ron John the used car salesman, these are all fine candidates. I feel that this county has a problem and could use new blood. Charlie Duke certainly has the experience needed in a fast growing county.Bob Kahn, a nice teacher; but no experience for the job. Allen Veil also a nice guy but we have had an increase in crime and now a meth epidemic all on his watch. The Sheriff's office has been invisible to the community and it's morale very poor.We should have a clean campaign but all the candidates past record is fair game.

Saturday, 1 July 2006 - 9:42 AM PDT

Your blog shows your lack of knowledge on how this department and this investigation is and was run. This investigation was conducted by Tri-Net because the local department was unable or unwilling to investigate. Mr Veil supervised a couple of deputies which provided information but he was not my supervisor or a superviser of anyone actually involved in the investigation. My point is in the years that he has been employed with the Lyon County Sheriffs Department what has he done to make Lyon County or any part of it a better and safer community. This is what he should have on record and we should be able to verify. Not the commendation of other departments or people. If he was unable to perform any investigations or arrests on his own we hope as a good supervior he would have built a strong force around him of deputies, instructing and directing them to complete the investigations successfully, obviously this didn't happen because an outside agency had to be called in to do it.
In reguards to the authorship of the letter, a letter from a White House Staff personel, even the first lady, is not a letter from the president and if you hung it in your home and told me it was from the president I would think you were an idiot.
I agree that I would like for each candidate to "tell me what you are going to do" in this case we have the right and ability to look at this candidates past history as we evaluate his promise of performance. And sadly I am unable to find any significant investigations and/or changes that Mr. Veil conducted.

Saturday, 1 July 2006 - 9:45 AM PDT

I never stated in my letter who I was supporting, if anybody. So your response is completely wrong and you are using my letter to mistate facts not declared. There by you have become what you accused me of being a person used by a canditate to smear others.

Saturday, 1 July 2006 - 11:44 AM PDT

It takes brains not brawn to run the Lyon County Sheriff's Department. Mr. Veil has demonstrated over the last 8 years that he doesn't have the mental capacity to handle the job. The last thing we need in this county is a continuation of the ineffective law enforcement as demonstrated by Mr. Veil in the current administration.

Sunday, 2 July 2006 - 3:57 PM PDT

Joan, if it's brains you want, Charlie Duke certainly isn't your man. He reminds me of a boxer who did too many rounds sparring without a helmet pad on. Brawn certainly does not describe Allan Veil. While certainly not the smallest on the department, I would hardly describe him as "Brawny". Ron John, you've been caught with your pants down. Pull your name from the running before the whole story comes out and they have to run you out of town on a rail. Kahn, stick to teaching.

Monday, 3 July 2006 - 6:24 AM PDT

If you know me, or of me, you know that I retired due to a very serious medical condition. There is no cure for the condition. During the time that I was employed by the Lyon County Sheriff's Department I served honorably and with distinction.

Monday, 3 July 2006 - 3:14 PM PDT

What does this BLOG have to do with the way the Department is run? This blog is for people to put their comments on regarding the election. I haven't even posted anything except the greeting on here. I was trying to stay neutral but if you want to throw rocks, I have boulders here we can pitch

Tuesday, 4 July 2006 - 12:39 AM PDT

Mr. Troche, is this blog for the candidates or are we discussing your ability to maintain employment. No one on here cares about you or your employment or lack of same. You obviously have some sour grapes problem with Mr. Veil. Maybe he's the policeman you always hoped you would be. That's your PERSONAL problem. Please don't bother us with your banter. No one cares

Wednesday, 5 July 2006 - 9:22 AM PDT

Jacob, I agree with you on some points, but if you were to do your homework, you would know that Veil does not have the support of the deputies and only comes out of Yerington when he has to, or when he is politicking. Where as Kahn, how do you know that he is not capable of performing his duty if elected. Why do you need to know what the inside of a unit looks like to be a good Sheriff? He will have a great department and team behind him that can help him with that part of the job. He may be out of touch with the "call" part of the job, but when was the last time you've seen the Sheriff at a call, or sit in a unit for that matter? He is in touch with the deputies and day to day operations, which I believe is one criteria for a good sheriff and administrator. From what I understand he has chosen an under sheriff that has 25 years with THIS DEPARTMENT, most of it in a supervising capacity. Mr. Kahn knows our area and needs from traveling all over the county with the DARE program, and if he needs help, I'd say he has the support that he needs. He has chosen someone who defiantly "Knows the personnel and area", probably better then "Veil".
I have done my homework and am voting for Bob Kahn.

Wednesday, 5 July 2006 - 10:02 AM PDT

I'm sorry, but when the final round comes to Kahn and Duke, my money is on the nice guy who would fight till the end, not the hot head who will storm out when he doesn't get what he wants.

Wednesday, 5 July 2006 - 12:25 PM PDT

Duke, We all know that Troche' is or was a Duke supporter. If you are this incencitive to your supporters, I hate to see your attitude to the people under your command. God help us.

Wednesday, 5 July 2006 - 6:03 PM PDT

Whoever is using the name Duke you should have the guts to put your full name there and not give people the impression that I am the one that made the comment. Paul was a dedicated employee who gave 100% every day and for you people to try and smear him is shameful. I would be proud to have Paul's support because he is an example of what an outstanding deputy is all about. I have seen all to often people take credit for something they had no imput and I have spoken with several folks within the department and they confirm Paul's outrage. If you want to use the name Duke put a first name to it and have the courage to identify yourself and if you are going to use Charlie Duke state you are not the candidate. Show some courage!

Wednesday, 5 July 2006 - 7:44 PM PDT

I saw 2 guys wearing shirts advertizing for 'Duke' sitting behind me at the last Memorial Day's festivities at the Fernley Veteran's Cemetery. I thought that was very inappropriate and it will influence my decision.

Thursday, 6 July 2006 - 12:19 AM PDT

There, I capitalized it Charlie. I have been known as DUKE for over 60 years. Where in that fat head would you think I meant my previous comment was from you. Are you the only person on the planet named Duke? Very confrontational Mr. Duke. Wanna step out in the yard and take a swing at me now? There you have it folks. He goes off the deep end for me, William "Duke" Thomas, using "HIS HIGHNESS'" name. Maybe I should shudder that everywhere I go now I see MY name on billboards. Get a grip.

Thursday, 6 July 2006 - 12:22 AM PDT

Charlie hates it when I use HIS name but I've had this name longer than he's been alive. He showed his people skill or lack of it with his comment earlier. Sally, you mention Kahn has a Undersheriff. Care to enlighten us? Or is it like everything Kahn does, clueless and on the spur of the moment. I never said in my earlier comment that I was a Veil fan either. He's just the lesser of the 3 evils. Ron John, pull your name, you have a better chance of snow skiing on Maui.

Thursday, 6 July 2006 - 5:52 AM PDT

I read with great interest, the letter that Mr. Austin sent to the Leader-Courier that was printed in the 07-05-2006 edition. Mr. Austin has been around the Lyon County Sheriff's Department for several years. When I worked for the Sheriff's Department he was a Control Room Operator in the Jail. I do not know if he is still employed there.

Having been around Law Enforcement for several years I would think that Mr. Austin would have learned a little bit more about how Law Enforcement works in Lyon County.

When a small local agency comes upon an investigation that is very involved that agency generally calls in an outside agency to do the investigation. In the case of the Meth lab in Mason Valley that agency was the Tri-Net Narcotic Task Force.

I/we conducted countless hours of surveillance. Interviewed numerous civillian and law enforcement witnesses. Prepared an Affidavit for a search warrant. All members of the task force served the warrant and seized a working Meth lab. Wemndy Armstrong, our supervisor, supervised the entire operation from start to finish.

Mr. Veil was the Sergeant in charge of the Mason Valley Patrol Squad. Out of respect, I attempted to keep him informed of the status of the investigation. He never directed me or had any input about the service of the search warrant or the investigation itself.I do believe, however, that he gave me directions to the suspect's residence. If anyone says that his involvement was more than that it is simply not true.

During the last Sheriff's election, Mr. Austin was a very vocal Charlie Duke supporter. He (Mr. Austin)even helped to put Charlie Duke's WEB site together. Now he changes his mind? Does that men everything he said during the last election was a lie? Or does that mean he is afraid of the inevitable changes that will occur if somebody outside of the Smith/Veil regime takes control.

In closing, I have a letter from George W. Bush's white house. It is signed by the President's cook. But, it is on letter head from the White House. We could say that it was written by GWB and then try to sell it on E-bay. I think that we would have some takers because it seems that alot of people believe that the letter on Mr. Veils WEB site was written, or otherwise approved of, by Mr. Weller. With all of the employees, and different departments,in the DPS he cousld not approve every bit of correspondence that goes out on state letter head.

Thursday, 6 July 2006 - 12:01 PM PDT

Paul, I read you comments here. I am a 30 year police veteran. I don't need to answer to you or anyone else here. It is QUITE clear that you are supporting Charlie. There's NOTHING wrong with that. Your previous letter smacked of smearing and that's what I objected to. It was as ridiculous as the ex-mayor of Yerington objecting to the words "more endorsements" instead of "more letters" on the website belonging to Mr. Veil. I thought the candidates were going to stick to the issues and leave the rock throwing and mudslinging to the politicians in California. Yes, I did put a website together for Mr. Duke in 2002 and would have in 2006 had he asked me. I offered, he went with someone else. I haven't worked for LCSO since 1996, a fact you should have known seeings how you know all about my supporting of Charlie in 2002. Isn't this all moot anyway if Ron John and Kahn get the nod for the general election in November? Support whomever you think will do the best job and I will do the same. Stop nitpicking about letters on a website.

Thursday, 6 July 2006 - 1:40 PM PDT

Dan, what is the big deal? They were Duke for Sheriff T-shirts. Did they say anything derogatory? Anything offensive? You should be glad they didn't have some anti-Iraq BS on them. Get real here

Thursday, 6 July 2006 - 11:22 PM PDT

I have to wonder if Charlie will continue his tirade against the current Sheriff and the implemented programs. I dont care one bit what he says he is going to implement. He has the moronic Board of Supervisors to contend with and they're going to do what they do best. Give themselves raises and screw the Sheriffs. Charlie, while you have good intentions, you are dealing with a pack of people who are boxed into their own little world. You'll get NO help from them from the git-go should you get elected. Will Kahn continue to work at LCSO after the election? Will RonJohn find his way to I/5 and stumble back to Washington State? Captain Veil, will you be able to survive the Charlie backers among your uniformed members should you get elected? Lots have said lets keep it clean. That's not going to happen. Whoever gets elected, I hope they trashcan this second rate group of deputies up here and get some deputies in tune with the community. I am embarrassed at the mindless banter I hear on the scanner, knowing the majority of it is based here in Fernley. There are a couple of deputies here who need to go to radio procedure school. The term "ok dear" instead of "10-4" and talking like some Texas hick, drawl and all, is NOT acceptable on any legitimate agency. My credentials? Chief of Police 32 years worth. I wouldnt put up with this nonsense. I hope whoever gets it puts a stop to it. It's not totally their fault. The current Sheriff has done nothing to put a curb on it and that clown Chief Deputy who just retired also talked like some hick on the radio and I'm sure thought nothing of the banter.

Friday, 7 July 2006 - 8:34 AM PDT

Maybe Mr. Austin is no longer supporting Duke because he found out what kind of person he is and/or what kind of Sheriff he would make.

Friday, 7 July 2006 - 2:42 PM PDT

Sally, do not try to speak for the Deputies in Lyon County. There are several who fully support Veil. Most of those who do not are those who cannot take orders from anyone and are afraid that Veil will enforce depatrment orders. As for Kahn, you are right you don't need experience to be sheriff. Guess like one of Kahn's kids books, he will just set up a puppet office. Further, ask Kahn how may people he has promised jobs in "High paying positions" if he is elected. Kahn is just that. So don't turn in that homework you claim you have done, you will surely fail, unless its graded by Kahn.

Friday, 7 July 2006 - 2:56 PM PDT

Hey Charlie, go back to rampart

Saturday, 8 July 2006 - 1:03 AM PDT

Outrage????? What outrage? What outrage does Troche have and why would he have outrage? Over a letter on a website?? Surely you jest. Courage to identify who? The man's name is Duke. Believe this or not, you, Charlie Duke of Dayton, are NOT the only person to have or use the name Duke. Are you that crazy to assume someone wrote on the blog making believe they were you? You give yourself WAYYYYY to much credit. The more you shoot your mouth off, the more I'm convinced it's going to be Kahn v/s Veil in the runoff. Just like in 2002, your big bazoo is going to cost you the election. What's with the crap in the paper this week about the cooperation or lack thereof with the Sheriff and Yerington Police. Buddy, you are receiving really bad info. You should probably re-evaluate your sources who are feeding you this baloney. Ever thought they might be doing this on purpose to sabotage you? Naw, they wouldnt do that would they. It worked! I'd write in that goofy Ken Barnes' name on the ballot before I'd vote for you now. You remind me of a bull standing out in the field snorting. Please explain to the public how you can be receiving a disability retirement from LAPD and expect to be employed by Lyon County. Disabled is disabled. I just noticed that on your post, you list your email address as cdukr46@charter.net but your website says its cduke46@charter.net. Scary thought that you can't even type your own email address but you can command an entire Sheriff's Department?

Sunday, 9 July 2006 - 8:56 AM PDT

LISTEN UP!! I worked for the LCSO for five years, and I can tell you that Veil is as incompetent as they come! This man wants the best for the department, but he has absolutely NO common sence. As far as Bob Kahn, Bob and I had lunch together a few years before the last election. He point-blank told me that he was not cut out to be a cop. He said he's a school teacher, and the only reason he wears a uniform is because they let him teach DARE. In the summer months they used to have Bob work a shift in Fernely, but the deputies wanted him out of there, because he was going to get someone hurt. Take any school teacher, and throw them the keys to a patrol car. It was not pretty. I can say this, because they tried sticking him in my patrol area a few times, and it was scary!
Bob would not admit to our lunch confession, but it has always stuck with me.
Ron John will self destruct when his past hits the papers. Say what you want, but Charlie Duke is by far, more qualified than the others.
Remember, I've worked with Kahn and Veil, and you all will seriously pay if you elect them. I would consider moving out of the county, because we wouldn't be getting the protection my family deserves. Happy Voting!

Sunday, 9 July 2006 - 11:51 AM PDT

I inadvertantly deleted the following posting while attempting to delete a duplicate post from Aaron. My apologizes to Larry. I wasn't trying to censor you.
WEBMASTER

Posting from Larry around 10:00AM I believe

LISTEN UP????? Aaron, if you are who I think you are, you're just pissed because Charlie and your Daddy didn't get the nod in 2002. You Dad's popularity or lack of same had alot to do with it. You need to go find a dictionary as "sence" is spelled "sense" as far as I know and "Fernely" is spelled "Fernley". Bob Kahn "not being cut out to be a cop" is hardly news. He's a school teacher, plain and simple. When you say Ron John will self destruct, are you sure you're not talking about Charlie too? Charlie has "papers" that will end up in the paper also which should probably end this charade. Charlie has already shown what a boob he is on this blog, attacking another man because the man is called DUKE and has been for 60 years. Charlie went off his nut with the guy, accusing him of using "his" name. This is who you want???? What qualifications are you referring to? Call Veil incompetent if you wish but he didn't make Captain on his good looks alone. The FBI academy does NOT accept incompetent people to attend. You just have a H.O. for Veil because you were one of the pieces of driftwood he got rid of. Whatever.

Sunday, 9 July 2006 - 2:17 PM PDT

I'm curious why we don't have a comment section on here for the DA race and the Justice of the Peace races? By the way, these other comments are quite amusing

Sunday, 9 July 2006 - 2:41 PM PDT

A friend sent me the link to this blog with the comment that I would be "Amused". First of all, I retired from the Yerington Police Department in 1999 as a Sergeant after 11.5 years on the Department. Before that, I had over 20 years in all aspects of law enforcement. I worked under Alan Veil when he was a Corporal on the P.D., and many times after he transferred to the Sheriff’s Office. I don't know the other candidate, but I can speak of Alan Veil and his qualifications based upon the years that I worked with him. Alan Veil is a very competent and intelligent individual with almost 30 years of experience under his belt. His supervisory skills were different than his contemporaries. He used his head and did not over react or make decisions without having all the facts at hand. He always acted in a correct and proper manner based upon the information available. I found Alan Veil to be quiet and reserved, but always fair. If you do your job properly and by the book, you have nothing to fear by working for him. On the other hand, Alan is firm but fair when supervising those under him. I liked working under Alan Veil as my supervisor. I trusted him and I had faith and confidence in his abilities. I haven't seen Alan since I retired but based on what I know about him, if I still lived in Lyon County, I would vote for him in a heartbeat.

Monday, 10 July 2006 - 6:56 PM PDT

Before you bust on someone for spelling check your grammer Larry. Aaron is a correct and you know it. You must be one of the good ole boys that needs weeding out. Veil is not who you say he is...........Lyon SO is in a hurt locker with officers as yourself. Whatever!

Monday, 10 July 2006 - 11:56 PM PDT

Jay, ewe mist bee won of thoz Fernley Depties. Aaron is a correct what?????? You're just as illiterate as he is. Vote for anyone you like. Jist lern how two spel.

Sunday, 16 July 2006 - 7:01 PM PDT

Hello Lyon County Voters,

I have worked with Allen Veil for over seven years now and I trust him whole heartedly. I have been disciplined by him, had arguments and disagreed with him. All of this and I would greatly enjoy following his lead for another four years.

P.S. Aaron is a liar! Hence, "used to work for LCSO."

Wednesday, 19 July 2006 - 12:43 AM PDT

Ms. Sally,

If you look a little deeper, you see that the only deputies who don't wan't Mr. Veil to be Sheriff are the ones who know he will enforce the rules they violate on a regular basis. I have spoken with many who work where I live and have listened to the scanner. I am apalled at the lack of professionalism displayed by some people on the radio. If they can't be professional, maybe they should just move on. Maybe that would also help with the alleged "retention problem" our Sheriff's Office has.

Friday, 21 July 2006 - 10:06 AM PDT

Hey Josh,

Why don't you stop answering for your Daddy, He's a retired has been. It's o.k. to have your own thoughts now, Daddy is gone. To say you would greatly follow him for another four years only shows how much you have been brain washed by ineffective leadership and how you too couldn't make a decision on your own. Being able to handle a call in Yerington or handle an out of control person in the jail, does not in anyway shape or form prepare someone to run a county the size of ours. I wonder, if Mr. Veil could handle an eight hour shift in Silver Springs, Dayton or Fernley? Probably not without referring to his micro management handbook. If Mr. Veil wins this election,the department will remain a training grounds for those desiring to work for a real law enforcement department.

Friday, 21 July 2006 - 5:45 PM PDT

Sarah Sarah Sarah. Charlie already has a wife. Don't let her know you're sleeping with him too. You are clueless little girl. Stick to needlepoint.

Saturday, 22 July 2006 - 1:29 AM PDT

Max Max Max :( I do not support Charlie Duke. Didn't support him in 2002 and wouldn't support him now. Your response leaves me to beleve that you are a "Veil" supporter or "Josh's pappy" or I wouldn't have triggered such a VILE childish response from you.

I am not a "clueless little girl", I know which buttons to push and apparently I pushed yours. This whole blog is nothing but a joke and it provides absolutely no information of any value to the voters of Lyon County.

Wait, I take that back. I think it's an excellent source to let people know how childish "Veil's" supporters are. The class of his supporters sure say a lot about him.

Saturday, 22 July 2006 - 12:32 PM PDT

Sarah,
Obvisouly, you don't know me very well. If you did, you would know I have my own opinions and idea's. I have voiced my disagreements with the current administration many times. You wouldn't know this, due to the current admin and I being extremely professional adout our disagreements. That is what is the best trait, about Sheriff Smith, my "Retired Has Been" father, Capt. Veil and Capt. Page. Your allowed to voice your opinions and ideas without reprisal/retaliation.
"Sarah" I am going to use a qoute from I beleive President Lincoln, which best describes a person like you: "It is better to remain silent and let everyone assume you are a Jackass, than it is to speak and prove it!"

Furthermore, you have a great knowledge of me, which leads me to believe you are using a false name. Have courage, use your real name. To everyone else please vote: VEIL FOR SHERIFF!!!!! Sincerely: Josh Barnes

Saturday, 22 July 2006 - 1:35 PM PDT

Sarah, or should I say Susan, please stay off this blog as we, the intelligent people of Lyon County, don't want to hear your crap anymore. Yes, you're 100% right about Josh's USELESS Daddy. That's why he is gone now instead of Veil having to fire him in November for being a slacker. It's a crying shame that he was allowed to retire. Be that as it may, you have way too much info on Josh not to have an inside track. You're not fooling anyone. At least if you are going to use a phoney name, don't be so precise on your information!

Saturday, 22 July 2006 - 9:49 PM PDT

Just logged on to this site for the first time, was looking for some information on the candidates. I'm pretty disappointed by what I have read, mud slinging, name calling etc etc, but absolutely no information of value about the candidates.

But I am still willing to risk asking if anyone knows Veils website address. Just trying to get educated on all the candidates qualifications before I cast my vote.

And Yes, my real name is Judy, I'm sorry I meant Julie :)

Saturday, 22 July 2006 - 10:14 PM PDT

Julie, I am disappointed at the idiots mudslinging on here. This is NOT why this was put here. I was hoping the candidates themselves would come on here and give us a clue as to what they intended to do. The only candidate to come on here so far is Mr. Duke and all he did is bash someone else. In answer to your question, Mr. Veil's website is www.veilforsheriff.com
Mr. Kahn's is www.bobkahnforsheriff.com Mr. Duke's is www.dukeforsheriff.com and Mr. John's is www.ronjohnforsheriff.com I hope this helps. Folks, lets use this site for informational use, not needless bashing.

Saturday, 22 July 2006 - 10:43 PM PDT

I appreciated the information for the 4 candidate's websites. I did notice however on Mr. John's website two interesting notes. He neglected to say that he resigned as Sheriff of Lincoln County after being caught filing a false trip voucher. Sorry but you just don't resign from an elected position unless there is a problem. No, don't hand us this crap of you were offered this Chief of Police job so you resigned as Sheriff. That would be as bright as the President of the United States resigning so he could be the Mayor of Fernley. The other thing I notice is he is using a Lyon County logo. Why is it I have the feeling he wasn't given permission for this? Is this just another example of his unethical behavior? I, like others, are waiting for these candidates to come on here and give us the straight scoop. Yes, every one of them know about this blog. I attended the powwow the other day in Silver Springs for the 4 candidates and was disappointed but not surprised. Somone else mentioned the ridiculous behavior on the radio. 90% of the mindless chatter and totally unprofessional banter is coming out of the Fernley office. I am embarrassed to live in Fernley as a result. I'll probably be targeted now by the cowboys for speaking my mind. That's ok, I know the judge.

Sunday, 23 July 2006 - 9:28 AM PDT

Bob Kahn is a great man. My kids loved seeing him in the class room. But that is where his day to day ends. He is the D.A.R.E. guy. He doesn't know whats going on in the department first hand. Veil has been out there and does go to crime scenes. He handles so much that it would be impossible for him to be every where. He has many people with in the department pulling for him. But as anyone who has been boss would know, employees don't like the one who has to enforce the rules. It's funny that most of those making comments about the sheriff office have never taken a tour, never asked about the day to day running, and now just listen to candidates that are running ugly campaigns. I believe Bob Kahn wants to help but so does Allen Veil. The others I don't think they have a clue on how to help because like thoses making comments, they never got to know this department to know how to help.

Sunday, 23 July 2006 - 9:43 AM PDT

You have no idea about Admin. or how it runs. Veil can only follow policies/procedures as are. He can't change how the department is ran. That is like saying the Vice President can run this country anyway he wants regardless of laws and tell President Bush to sit down and shut up. Sounds like someone wasn't doing he job right and got caught Mr. Aaron. Duke has never said how he is going to over ride the commissioners and get all this money for all these wonderful things he promises. Maybe he is on his knees more that others are willing to be. He has not said one good thing about our department. That means your work too bubby. Anyone who has not taken the time to really look at the problems doesn't need to be trying to fix them. He wants to replace locals with his bubbies from L.A. and it's going to take at least a years to redo policies and procedures because of all the employee contracts. So until you want to ask real questions and find real answers why don't you try to do your job!

Sunday, 23 July 2006 - 10:08 AM PDT

Joan, apparentlly you have never met Mr Veil or MR Duke. If you had you know Duke has no brains, just hot air. Mr Veil is a supervisor not the Sheriff so how did he run the whole sheriff's department? And have you ever spent time in the sheriff's department? Where are you getting your info? I'd check the source unless it's Duke then your lost anyway.

Sunday, 23 July 2006 - 10:21 AM PDT

Could you handle it Sarah?, Have you ever? Allen Veil has and could. Josh is a good supervisor and knows what works and what doesn't. Josh could and has on many situations made his own decisions. You have nothing better to do than speak out your backside about good people. Many things change when you go from a deputy to a supervisor. You see the other side of things. Many deputies don't take the time. So check those sources too. Mr. Veil has keep up on all his training, has Duke? No he is disabled. I work with many departments and Lyon County is one of the best.

Monday, 24 July 2006 - 2:28 AM PDT

If Sarah/Susan is who I think she is, why is she not working with the Sheriff's Office anymore? Maybe her MOUTH has fired off once before. Yet another example of who dislikes Mr. Veil. The ones who have lost their jobs wtih the Sheriff's Office or fear losing it if he wins.

Monday, 24 July 2006 - 4:12 PM PDT

As a resident of Dayton, I will be going to the golf course tonight (Monday) to watch Charlie step on his penis again. Doesn't take much to get him all fired up. Kahn and John should probably stay home and Veil will shine just as he did in Silver Springs last week.

Wednesday, 26 July 2006 - 4:48 PM PDT

My opinions:

(1) Bob Kahn is a nice geek. Terrible teacher, I know he was my sixth grade dunce. I feel like I need to get an enema to fully get rid of him every time I see him. Not Sheriff material!

(2) Charlie Duke is an egotistical maniac waiting hit some one with a PR-24. His way of combating confrontation is with a "Strike first, Strike hard" attitude. This has been proven several times, when he is asked a question he either can't answer or is unwilling to answer and he loses his temper and stomps around like a child. And what about his bad sports manship four years ago, when he bad mouthed Sheriff Smith after after he lost.

(3) Ron John is a polite gentleman with some shady past incidences. I don't fully know what happened, but I know enough to know he would have to be watched very closely. However, I have personally spoke with alot of Carson City Deputies, who all say he is a great supervisor and they all trust him.

(4) Capt. Veil is a restrained man and thinks issues through. I have'nt seen him make any half cocked decisions. He has always made time to speak with anyone who has wished to speak with him. He also takes citizen complaints very seriosly. I have called him several times and asked him very indepth questions; to which he either explained them in detail or told me he didn't know and he would findout for me.

In my own personal voting poll, Capt. Veil is way ahead of the competition.

Tuesday, 1 August 2006 - 2:35 PM PDT

instead of talking a lot of trash about the candidates why not ask the simple questions:

1. Ron John, were you caught with your hand in the till, remember public access to records before you answer.

2. Bob Kahn, lot of good ideas but what real qualifications do you have to be the top cop?

3. Allen Veil, They call you a micromanager and some say you don't back your deputies. Can you explain?

4. Charlie Duke, explain to us just how "You" got the deputies their raise. How "You" can say you are so much better than all the rest. Why in a department of over 8000 personnel, could they not find you a position. And, just how do you walk on water?

Saturday, 5 August 2006 - 11:14 PM PDT

The true "Facts" about Duke.Mr. Duke stated in the Mason Valley News 7-25-2003 that he is "Retired"from the Los Angeles Police Dept. When in fact Duke is not retired. HE LIED. He is on disability and Receives a handsome TAX FREE check every month.FACT-Duke did not disclose this information to the public. It took a voter at a candidates night with his disability papers in hand before he would admit to it. As Mr. Tom Snodgrass states in the Mason Valley News on 7-26-2006 that all four candidates for sheriff run on their records, it is time for Duke to run on his. It is obvious that he does not know the meaning of honesty and integrity,which is the backbone of any law enforcement officer. As Dukes campaign saying goes"the public has a right"So Mr. Duke if you covered your disability up, what will you cover up in the sheriffs office. Anne

Sunday, 6 August 2006 - 12:08 AM PDT

Josh, don't even worry about her. Sarah aka Sue, go play with your zebra and leave the writing to the literate. Of course she is using a false name. Sit down, take a couple of mins, and it will dawn on ya. Charlie and Ron have lied so much during this campaign it's incredible. I know who I'm voting for. The rest of ya are on your own

Sunday, 6 August 2006 - 4:22 AM PDT

MR. Gene Simonson from Fernley,
As I read your entry of 07-06-06, I initially believed I was reading the first intelligent entry to this blog. But then you decided to attack every peace officer in the community you reside in. I've known a lot of Law Enforcement Administrators over the years and find it hard to believe that someone with 32 years as a Chief of Police would be so damning as you are.
Am I to believe that in 32 years you never made any mistakes in your radio traffic. If I was to accept that, then I would also believe you could walk on water. You mention your tenure as a Chief of Police, but don't mention that geographic area for which you served.
I am going to have to draw the conclusion that you are just one of many retired peace officers that are taking advantage of Nevadas low cost housing and taxes, while you draw a very sizable retirement check from the other side of the line.
Your comments about the "second rate group of deputies"
puts you in a similar category with Charlie Duke. Have you ever attempted to get to know any of those deputies, or just pass judgement from a safe distance. Inspite of what you NEW people think, we are a rural area and we have different needs and problems than the metro area and supburbs of California.
We are constantly told by the Dukes and Simonson's of the world that law enforcemnt where they came from is better for us. Yet the agencies they keep referring to, like LAPD ect, are also the most controversial and corrupt around. Look at Rampart!
If the Hillbilly sounds coming from your scanner bother you that much, then please read the owners manual that came with it and you will find that they were all equipped with an "off" switch.
In conclusion Mr. Simonson. The "Fernley Squad" is made up of the most experienced deputies in the county. They get the job done without someone holding their hands or looking over their shoulders. And they have the least amount of IA's of any patrol area in the county. So I hope you enjoy your retirement in Fernley. But if things get too much for you in Fernley, let me be the first to buy you a tank of gas to move back to where you came from.

Monday, 7 August 2006 - 12:50 AM PDT

S.R.P.

Which member of the Fernley Squad are you? Only they would defend the OVERWHELMING amount of "hillbilly" in the airwaves that are registered (assumably) to Lyon County.

Monday, 7 August 2006 - 7:31 AM PDT

Does anyone realize that Duke's running mate, R. Zirenburg, and the code enforcement officer are one and the same? Vote Duke, he'll treat you like a king.

Monday, 7 August 2006 - 7:34 AM PDT

We now hear that the big money backing Duke is D. Hoff. Is this the same Hoff that caters to the hells angels and mongol outlaw motorcycle gangs?

Monday, 7 August 2006 - 11:42 AM PDT

I work in dispatch, stay out of the political crap, and didn't know about this website until today. So if anyone thinks I have been posting comments, they are wrong. I would not talk about any squad or any candidate due to the fact that I just don't care.

Monday, 7 August 2006 - 3:54 PM PDT

SRP, who are you really?????? You're either Lange or one of his cronies. In any event, I know Mr. Simonson and there isn't one Fernley deputy fit to shine his shoes. Second rate? How about 5th rate. Let's examine. You have a deputy who can't control himself on the radio and another who's wife is a convicted felon but for some reason he wasn't fired for his involvement. "Honey, here's all this stuff. Don't ask me where we got the money for it"! "Ok honey, I won't" PLEASE! Who says the Fernley squad are the most experienced? You have to be joking. Clowns.

Monday, 7 August 2006 - 5:21 PM PDT

Yes that is the same Hoff. C. Duke has fallen in bed with the very same criminals the cops chase.

Tuesday, 8 August 2006 - 2:03 AM PDT

If it wasn't you, why do you feel it important to profess your innocence? WHO CARES WHO YOU ARE or who "SARA" is. This is supposed to be about the candidates!!!!

Wednesday, 9 August 2006 - 7:32 AM PDT

The last I heard prostitution was legal in Nevada. Along with that gambling, drinking all night and "quicky" marriages were also legal. I don't see anyone complaining about the money the Dennis Hoff pays to Lyon County in taxes. If Charlie Duke is receiving campaign contributions from Dennis Hoff what is the problem?

Thursday, 10 August 2006 - 12:38 PM PDT

Paul, your right prostitution is legal. Some of the taxes for the registration of the women does go to the sheriff's office. Accepting the tax from a legal business is just not the same as being in bed with organized crime and taxes from the brothel comes from the brothel. Dennis Hoff is backing Duke, the brothel is not. and while we are at it, why is so much of dukes money coming from So. Cal. did he promise those cronies jobs like Kahn did. Any way you put it Duke is not a person to be trusted. Just walk up to him and ask him a question, see for yourself. I'm not advocating one over the other, but duke is scary.

Thursday, 10 August 2006 - 2:55 PM PDT

Maybe Duke is getting more for the Brothels than money!

Friday, 11 August 2006 - 11:45 PM PDT

Wayne, maybe his wife is supplementing their income! They have to pay for those obnoxious billboards somehow. I wonder of Charlie and Ron will use one vehicle next Wednesday to tour the county pulling their signs? They both live in the toilet aka Dayton. Maybe Charlie will flip his lid AGAIN and just pack up and head back to CA where they put up with people like him.

Saturday, 12 August 2006 - 3:56 PM PDT

Please remember what this blog is for. It is NOT to keep bashing the candidates or the people who make comments. Some are getting out of hand and I'm going to start deleting if it doesn't calm down.

Saturday, 12 August 2006 - 9:09 PM PDT

HEY SARAH:
Don't lump all of Veils supporters into one persons opion. I choose to think that I am a very strong supporter and intelligent. Shame on you for your letter. You don't upset me it shows me how childish you are that you would write that letter. Why don't you give this up and go back and watch tv or find something constructive to do with your time.

Saturday, 12 August 2006 - 9:54 PM PDT

My husband is a Deputy. He is amazed at the lack of professionalism displayed by the Deputies in Fernley. They are however experts in getting out of work and goofing off. The current Sheriff, while a nice guy, has been ineffective for many years. In the past few years, he has ALLOWED 2 employees to get away with time card fraud, one even being allowed to retire and now draw a pension, allows to this day the non-prosecution of a dispatcher who by all reports has hung bad paper (checks) in MANY Lyon County businesses with no reprocussuions, and the biggy, the turning of his back on the theft of hundreds of thousands of dollars by the wife of a deputy, citing the deputy didn't know. Yes, the wife was prosecuted but lets get real here. How stupid could this deputy have to be to not at least inquire from his wife where all the money came from. I believe someone else on here made mention of that fact. One of the upper command has done his best to cause dissention among the troops to make himself shine. I am hoping that whomever gets the nod in November brings his broom with him and sweeps away the frauds and the deadwood who draw a paycheck every two weeks. While it's true their association would pitch a bitch should the new Sheriff try to axe these people right out, there are ways to obtain the goal set. It will be interesting to see what happens in November. This Tuesday is a no-brainer. Duke and John and down the road. It's Kahn v/s Veil in November and I trust we all know the outcome of that one.

Saturday, 12 August 2006 - 10:44 PM PDT

As a retired Los Angeles Policeman, I would like to make a few short comments regarding Sergeant Charles Duke, the LAPD and the comments made here about the candidates running for Sheriff in your country.

First of all, police officers who receive disability pensions are "officially retired" from the jurisdiction they were employed by. The restrictions on those pensions vary from case to case and agency to agency. In many cases, disability pensions do not prevent those officers from pursuing other careers - even in law enforcement.

Charlie Duke served over 20 years as a police officer in the City of Los Angeles and technically, upon his 20th anniversary, he was eligible for a service pension. If he did receive a medical pension, that decision was made by a City of Los Angeles Pension Board (who in fact award very few medical pensions each year) and it's no secret those pensions are tax free.

I retired on a regular service pension after nearly 28 years on the department. For 16 of those 28 years, I worked on the LAPD SWAT team. During my tenure on the SWAT team, Sergeant Duke served as a SWAT supervisor for several years. While I haven't seen or communicated with Sergeant Duke for several years, during our service together on the SWAT team, he was professional, dedicated and competent. As is the case with most members of the LAPD, his primary concerns were for his fellow officers, the department and the integrity of the law enforcement in general.

I do know that while he was a Los Angeles Police Officer, he worked patrol in some of the toughest parts of Los Angeles, trained recruits at the Police Academy and served honorably as a SWAT Sergeant. As I mentioned above, I haven't communicated with Sergeant Duke since his retirement nor am I familiar with his pension status or any aspect of his retirement life.

Rampart. Sergeant Duke had nothing to do with the Rampart problem. There are approximately 8,000 LAPD officers. The Rampart "Scandal" involved around six. I would ask that anyone who has an interest in the Rampart debacle or feels compelled to condemn all the men and women of the Los Angeles Police Department read the below articles:
On-Line
www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/lapd/etc/boyer.html
www.taemag.com (article ID=18526)
The American Enterprise Online How Racial PC Corrupted the LAPD - By Jan Golab

Printed Publication
Rolling Stone Magazine (June 07, 2001).

Collectively, the above articles contain information and details that will help clear up any misunderstandings or incorrect information people may have obtained from much of the mainstream press or television news who, by the way, poorly investigated and/or reported the entire story.

Please, make no mistake, working in Los Angeles is a tough, demanding and dangerous job. We protect, serve and police 5 million people living in nearly 500 sq. miles. While we are not a perfect department, for a law enforcement agency that employs 8,000 officers, we are as corrupt free as humanly possible.

Serving as a police officer or sheriff in any jurisdiction can be demanding and dangerous. The size of the agency or jurisdiction doesn't indicate the ability of the officers employed there nor does it negate the possibility of being killed or injured in the line of duty. Enforcing the law is a perilous and often thankless job.

I might suggest that those who voice their opinion about any of the agencies involved or the candidates running for office do so in a civil and intelligent way.

In closing, regardless of who wins the election, it's imperative that the citizens in your county join together and support men and women who protect your community.

R. Walker

Sunday, 13 August 2006 - 3:49 AM PDT

Your statement is one of the few statements on this site that isn't mud slinging and thats great. The fact that you keep mentioning that you don't know Charlie Duke or anything about him leads me to believe that A. you are Charlie Duke B. Youre Charlie Dukes wife or C.Charlie paid you out of his disability to write something good about him. No Sheriff candidate is running for the Sheriff of the country I think you meant County. Anyway another word for L.A.P.D. is C.R.O.O.K.E.D. have a nice day.

Sunday, 13 August 2006 - 5:14 AM PDT

Nice to see nothing changes in Lyon County. You can build houses without wheels, but you'll never be far from whitewalls on the roof. As usual the sheriff's race has little to do with the job itself, but at least this is more interesting. Glad to see Michael J Fox is doing well and stirring the pot, and a shout out to Sue and JB. I miss some of the fun the job once was. Just keep in mind that things could always be worse; you could be in Nye County. I used to think Yerington was Darwins waiting room, but a few years down here make me think Lyon County could be a think tank. Enjoy the circus, I'll be keeping tabs.

Sunday, 13 August 2006 - 7:09 PM PDT

Ted,

I expected your negative comment about the officers of the Los Angeles Police Department. However, I'll consider your reply as simply a reflection of your ignorance, anger and hatred.

You know, Ted, there are members of two organizations in the United States who knowingly risk their lives to protect people they've never meant. The U.S. Military and those working in public safety. We'd even respond to a call for help from you, Ted. Because that's what we do.

You mentioned I "kept saying I didn't know Charlie Duke or anything about him...". Quite the contrary. I never said that. I wrote we worked on the SWAT team together for several years. There are only 67 members of the LAPD SWAT team. Obviously we knew each other. What I said was, I haven't communicated with him or seen him since his retirement several years ago. Apparently you were more interested in my mis-typed word (country instead of county) than the content of the post. (By the way... there's an apostrophe in you're)

Seemingly, what leads YOU to believe anything is your preconceived notion that you're always right. Let's clear that up immediately. You're not. You're wrong. I am not Charlie Duke. I'm sure Sergeant Duke can and does speak for himself. Secondly, I am not Mrs. Duke nor was I paid or compensated in any way to write my post.

Have a nice day, Ted.

R. Walker

Monday, 14 August 2006 - 8:48 AM PDT

R. Walker, you make some very good comments with regard to Duke and Rampart. How so few can mess it up for all. Perhaps YOU understand the negative feed back when Duke claims to be so much better than all the Lyon County Deputies. How he states he will reduce the 24% increase in crime when in fact there was a 1.9% increase. How with his physical disability he can challange any of the deputies to a physical fitness test. How he will reduce traffic fatalities or how he claims All credit for getting the deputies their raise. How Duke states he will implement a sex offender program when Lyon County has been complemented by the state for their offender program.
Truly I admire the men and women in law enforcement and we should all know that one or two bad apples make it tougher on all the rest.
But, Duke comes off like such a pompus ass that he makes others in your profession look bad.
Really, R. Walker, just check the facts and you can see that Duke is a lot of smoke and mirrors and to make comments about the members of the Sheriff's Office when he has not met most of them, well. Further, I have persosnally approached Mr. Duke about his agenda. Mr. Duke simply turned away from me with out so much as an acknowledgement of my presence. Maybe, Duke should have used a ram instead of his head to go through doors because it sure seems like there is not much up there.

Monday, 14 August 2006 - 2:20 PM PDT

Hi Jeri,

Thank you for your kind reply. As I mentioned in my original post here, I have not talked with Sergeant Duke since he retired. Yes, you're correct, a few bad cops can cause grief for all. The truth is; the Los Angeles Police Department is a world class police department that over the last forty years has been the leader in tactics and procedures. From how to handle homicides to SWAT tactics, the LAPD has led the way. At the same time, we've been the target for bias reporting since the late 1960s. If you have the time to check out a couple of the articles I mentioned in my original post here, you'd find out the truth behind such exaggerated issues as Rampart. Yes, there were "bad cops", but it was members of the LAPD who discovered it, it was members of the LAPD who investigated it and members of the LAPD who took the case to the District Attorney's office.

As far as Sergeant Duke is concerned, I certainly don't have the ability or desire to change his personality. As a SWAT supervisor, he was a noticeable presence with strong convictions about our tactics and training. With that said, please keep in mind that was his job. He was one of seven SWAT supervisors and quite frankly, being an LAPD SWAT Sergeant is not a job for the weak of heart.

I don't know what his physical limitations are. Frankly, I didn't know he was awarded a disability pension. I only knew he retired. His medical issues were never any of my business and they never mattered to me. I knew he had accumulated aches and pains over years, however, there was nothing unusual about that. We all did.

As far as reducing crime and his ability to curtail traffic accidents is concerned, my GUESS is he would rely on the procedures, deployment and policies he learned from the Los Angeles Police Department. Contrary to the media's portrayal of the LAPD, we do a pretty good job of policing 5 million people. Proper deployment of personnel and use of the tools available to a Police Chief can reduce certain crime and traffic problems. Whether Sergeant Duke can convey that in a way that's verbally acceptable to people today is another issue way beyond my ability or knowledge. As a SWAT Sergeant he seldom, if even, minced words. At this point, I should tell you that, as a SWAT Sergeant, he was fair, knowledgeable and never timid. I should also mention that he didn't use his head to force open doors.

Jeri, keep in mind, I'm not here to defend Sergeant Duke's personality, his campaign statements or his post retirement attitude. Only he can do that. I was not asked to post here by Sergeant Duke or anyone else. I posted here to correct a few inaccuracies that I had personal knowledge of regarding the Los Angeles Police Department as well as Sergeant Duke.

I hope you and the people who reside in your county elect the best possible person for the job. Knowledge, passion for public safety and courage are all essential tools.

My best,

R. Walker

Monday, 14 August 2006 - 7:07 PM PDT

Sally, do you really KNOW that Veil does not have the support of the deputies? Would that be ALL the deputies or just the ones you have spoken to? I do not believe I heard any rumblings of the association holding a meeting to vote on which candidate to openly support as they did during the last election (and they supported the incumbent then.) I believe there are several deputies and department employees that ARE supporting Veil. So you cant say Veil doesnt have the support of the deputies. With the deputies so split in their support, how can you assume or KNOW that Kahn will have the support to build a good "team" to have a "good department"? And as far as Kahns choice for undersheriff, definitely a fine individual with years of experience but most or ALL in Fernley. How often do you see him leave Fernley? How often does he have interactions with other areas than Fernley? Does he or Kahn understand the smaller urban needs of the less populated areas of our county as Veil does? We need someone that understands the small town nuances of the county as well as the booming areas such as Fernley and Dayton. Whoever you choose to vote for, vote for them. But dont go saying that Veil doesnt know any better than that of Kahns choice for undersheriff. Veil has every bit of experience as a police officer, patrol deputy, first line supervisor and upper management position as well as having attended the FBI academy (which by the way IS a big deal). All candidates have experience therefore all have something to offer. Don't put one down to support another because you just make your support look juvenile and meaningless.

Monday, 14 August 2006 - 7:52 PM PDT

An increase in crime rate? A 1.9% increase which is below the states rate of 3.8% and MUCH lower than the number (24% I believe he tried to say) touted by Mr. Duke. I dont think that is too bad. AND a clearance rate average of 29.4% in the last five years (again lower than the states average of 22%). Those are undisputable facts and figures provided by the state during the UCR process, not some gibberish being spouted by a candidate or a supporter of a candidate, just hard cold facts. And regardless of WHO you support, ANY member of the sheriff's department had SOMETHING to do with those figures.

Monday, 14 August 2006 - 9:31 PM PDT

I was told of this website and never got to go to it due to my busy schedule. I finally got the chance and read many of the comments. I am the current Communications Manager for the Lyon County Sheriff's Department, serving ALL of Lyon County including all law enforcement and fire/EMS services. I have been with the department since the latter part of 1989. I am very proudly married to a patrol sergeant and we reside in Dayton. I don't post this information as credentials just as general information so no one comes back with inconsequential comments like "say who you are" and "admit to....".

I want to state that I am extremely saddened by the fact that almost every post is of a negative nature and loses sight of the fact that we are talking about ONE OF THE FINEST AND MOST RESPECTABLE PROFESSIONS IN THE WORLD. How many people leave their homes and go to work KNOWING that it could be the last time they kiss their wife/husband and kids goodbye? How many leave for the day not knowing if they will ever get the chance to watch their kids grow up? The members of our department do it every day. OUR "misfits" in Fernley, OUR in-bred-brainwashed Yerington, OUR idiots out of Silver Springs, and OUR "out-of-control" Dayton deputies do!!!! THATS WHO!!!! and it really PISSES me off and disappoints me that ANYONE would cast such judgements and name calling on the fine people of this department that take the chances of sacrificing their LIFE every single day they come to work. Who are some of you people that can so casually try to bring shame and discredit to ANY group of law enforcmeent. This was, I think at least, suppose to be a website to get and give information, CREDIBLE information on the candidates to help people develop a good base of knowledge and information to help choose the best possible candidate to run the law enforcement agency for the second fastest growing county in the nation. Every one of the candidates at some point has given their time and dedication to a career in law enforcement. Whether you believe they have what you are looking for in a sheriff or not is your business. But offer some respect to each one of the candidates for the time and dedidation they have given to keep the public safe. If anyone uses the slander posted on this website to actually help you decide who to vote for then you are indeed an irresponsible voter. I would hope that people are doing their own fact finding by going to candidates nights or actually talking to the candidates before making up their minds.

But I implore all of you posting here, please keep in mind the honorable profession that we are talking about here. Keep in mind the respect due to EVERY one of them. All agencies have issues. Ours is no different but it is still a fine and honorable agency and I work here proudly.

Please make well informed decisions at the polls. To all serving in law enforcement or those that have - thank you for your service. To all - take care.

Monday, 14 August 2006 - 10:07 PM PDT

Donna,

Very well stated. I appreciate your words as well as your service to the community. I also appreciate and understand why you're so proud.

R. Walker
LAPD Retired

Tuesday, 15 August 2006 - 12:16 AM PDT

R. Walker,

Thank you for your intelligent comments. We (Lyon County Voters) don't all see the LAPD as evil. We have a respect for the law and what the men and women go through to enforce it. We just don't like it when someone comes in with a loud vioce telling us how to run our county. We have done fine since 1861 on our own. Our deparment can't be all that bad. Retired cops from all over the west come here to retire. And we have only lost TWO officers in the line of duty. One to a shooting, and one to a medical problem. I would hope that our deputies and our citizens could honor their memories and make informed decisions and do as I have done, research the department and the candidates.

Tuesday, 15 August 2006 - 6:48 AM PDT

Veil has been to all of those schools, true. However reading about how to do something and actually doing it are two totally different things. Would you prefer to have a doctor that has been to a prestigious medical school and never treated a patient? Or, a doctor that has been to schools that are not quite as prestigious but has been treating patients, himself, for about 25 or 30 years? This is a no brainer.

Tuesday, 15 August 2006 - 1:48 PM PDT

I have removed the comment made by Sergi as it was off the track of the campaign. Slamming Ms. Cupp is NOT what we are here for. Should you get the desire to re-post a comment, stick to the issues here. Thank you

Tuesday, 15 August 2006 - 4:46 PM PDT

Donna, you've alway been good with words! Thanks from the "in-bred-brainwashed 'Mason Squad' (Yerington)" See you at the polls!

Wednesday, 16 August 2006 - 1:29 AM PDT

And then there were two....
Where will that sizable Kahn camp go now?
Duke vs. Veil (like we didn't see that one coming)
Ron John, Thank you for living here in your retirement. Stick to that and let us run our own county now.

Wednesday, 16 August 2006 - 3:52 PM PDT

Well, was that Duke I saw taking down his signs? Oops, that's in November. The other two? Did we not know that from the git-go? Charlie, unfortunately, all of John's and Kahn's votes are going to go to Veil now so why not bow out now and avoid the inevitable? Veil beat you by 700+ votes in this election. What makes you think you can get any of those away from him OR any of the other two candidates? Not gonna happen. Let it go.

Wednesday, 16 August 2006 - 5:49 PM PDT

Abel, I was wondering about that comment myself. Is she saying that all the Deps in the Mason squad are in-breds? My comment to her would be "at least my in-bred momma taught me not to write checks for amounts I don't have in the bank".

Wednesday, 16 August 2006 - 6:48 PM PDT

It will be interesting now to see how many of the Deputies you find at WalMart in the suitcase section getting ready to pack up and head for other employment. Mr.Kahn, sorry you didn't do better and knock you know who out of the box. Didn't miss by much. Had RonJohn done what was requested early on, you more than likely would have beat Chuckles. So, you can partially blame Mr. John for your defeat. Mr. John, you had no chance from the outset. Why in your wildest dreams did you think you did? You were pretty much run out of town on you last 3 cop jobs. Good luck to the survivors of last night's election. Mr. Veil, have no fear. Chuckles has 3 more months to step on his you know what and I can pretty much guarantee he will go off his nut between now and Nov.

Wednesday, 16 August 2006 - 7:40 PM PDT

Now that the smoke has cleared, I went to all four of the candidate's websites to see if any of them bothered to thank the public for supporting them. One out of four bothered (Veil) and even had election results. In a way, I can maybe understand why John and Kahn didn't say anything yet, as they were busy taking down signs. Duke, what is your excuse?

Thursday, 17 August 2006 - 12:17 AM PDT

Then it is only fair this comment be removed as well, as it has nothing to do with the election.

Thursday, 17 August 2006 - 12:21 AM PDT

I apologize, I was referring to the comment made by Mr. Williams about the Mason Squad and Mrs. Cupp.

Saturday, 19 August 2006 - 1:05 PM PDT

Anyone other than me appalled by the comments made by Duke in the Mason Valley News? Here all 4 candidates are allowed to voice their thanks to the public for the voting turnout. Veil, Kahn, and John are humbled by the turnout and are gracious in their thanks. All 3 thanked the public for the turnout and the support. Duke on the other hand used the time to bad mouth the Sheriff's Department, claiming we are at risk and public safety is unsafe in Lyon County. My comment to him is IF YOU DONT LIKE IT HERE, MOVE!!!!!! If you are curled up in a corner thinking a bad guy is going to come hurt you, you really need to leave. We really don't want you here anyway. You'll be doing everyone a favor. Pack up your stuff and head back to LA. Maybe you can run for Mayor of West Hollywood or something. You had a lot of nerve spouting off about how inadequate our Sheriff's Office is instead of taking the time to thank the illiterate people who voted for you. Think ya just sank what was left of your boat! Do they have to stitch two baseball hats together in order for you to wear one? (THIS WILL APPEAR IN THE NEXT ISSUE OF THE MASON VALLEY NEWS UNLESS THAT SPINELESS JELLYFISH OF AN EDITOR PUTS THE KI-BASH ON IT.)

Saturday, 19 August 2006 - 3:31 PM PDT

AMEN!!!!! I was going to vote for Duke until I read the newspaper last week. What an ungrateful prick!

Monday, 21 August 2006 - 2:55 AM PDT

Can someone confirm what I heard? I was told that Ron John and Bob Kahn both published their support for Veil. Did anyone actually read that? Mute point anyway, Charlie will stick his foot in his OVERSIZED mouth any day now and blow his chances.

Monday, 21 August 2006 - 7:48 AM PDT

You heard right. Ron John and Bob Kahn are supporting Allen Veil. I hope that tells the public something. As you can see, duke is already putting his feet in his mouth. How dare he come out and insult the members of the Sheriff's Office like he does in the Mason Valley News. Veil, John and Kahn had the grace to thank people while duke comes out and says that there is a "Total disregard for public safety- and that's what Mr. Veil and his administration has given the county."

What an idiot! First, as anyone with a brain cell thats not pickled would know, its not Veil's administration. You have Sheriff Smith and you had that equal to duke idiot, Ken barnes making decisions. Next, you want low morale, have some jerk who wants to be your boss tell you how poor of a job you have been doing and that your morale is low. Get a clue people. If thats what he thinks of the people who dedicate themselves to the same law as he professes, how do you think he will treat the public. Check the facts for yourself. When duke speaks, its a lie...Period. After all, the last word in charlie is LIE.

Monday, 21 August 2006 - 10:21 AM PDT

I just wanted to say a few words in favor of Charlie. I worked with Charlie Duke on the L.A.P.D. SWAT Team for over 10 years and I found Charlie to be a fair, honest and hard working Sergeant. If you want the drug and crime problem in Lyon County cleaned up, Charlie is your man. If I lived in Lyon County I would surely vote for him.
R.J. Bennyworth

Monday, 21 August 2006 - 12:48 PM PDT

First off RJ. this is not L.A. Lyon County does not have the problems that L.A. has and has had for a long time. Lyon County does not need the type of law enforcement that duke professes. The sheriff does not control the purse strings to accomplish what duke says he can, (which he cannot)lets face it, if duke could accomplish what he says he can (or what he said he did), then why is L.A. in the tiolet it is in. Does duke REALLY think that just because he is from L.A. that he is the messiah. "NEWS FLASH" other agencies have been watching L.A. and learning from their mistakes for a long time. That makes them something L.A. can only wish they were, PROACTIVE, wow what a concept.
Sound rather condescending? Try listening to duke. Maybe his arrogant, bullying, horse crap attitude sounds that way to others. Thank God you don't live in Lyon County. I mean God not duke who thinks he is.

Monday, 21 August 2006 - 7:06 PM PDT

Thomas-
Your first paragraph is pretty accurate, however you sound just like C. Duke in your second paragragh. In the first paragraph you condem C. Duke for bad mouthing the Sheriff's Office and in the second paragraph you turn around and bad mouth the S.O yourself- "Pot calling the kettle black." I'm sorry to say the first sentence in your second paragraph describes you also. Stop being a hypocrite.

Monday, 21 August 2006 - 11:31 PM PDT

Folks, take it easy. #1, Ron John and Kahn have jumped on the VEIL wagon and all their voters will now secure the position for Veil. #2, Duke shot himself in the foot in the Mason Valley News last week. What's the controversy. As predicted, Duke has ordered a full order of shoe to eat this time. There is no more race. Veil has won with integrity and morals. Duke, we don't want you here. You are a trouble maker and a blowhard. Take your crap and move back to California.

Tuesday, 22 August 2006 - 7:30 AM PDT

Bull Winkle, I think you misunderstand. I am and would not bad mouth the Sheriff's Office. I would and did bad mouth Ken Barnes and would do so at any opportunity. This is based upon personal experiences with Ken Barnes. As for the Sheriff's office in general, I would like nothing more than to see a Veil administration. Further, lets take a look at morale in the SO. Have you, Charlie or anyone else ever talked to the deputies? The SO has some very well educated, motivated and all round sharp people. Yes there are a few whiners and complainers but isn't that typical of any organization including LAPD? and like any organization that has designated areas, there are rivalries among personnel but I can tell you this with all confidence. There is not one who would not be there for the other in a time of need. Some of these men and women may not like one another on a personal level but come hell or high water, they would be there. Thats just the way they are in the line of work they do. Further, to end this, you cannot know me so please do not make judgement so quickly. For all you know I may be the cop that pulls you over for speeding or the convict that lives next door to you. Go figure.

Tuesday, 22 August 2006 - 6:04 PM PDT

Thomas,
Yes, I have taken the time to speak with the employees of the Lyon County Sheriff's office and I am currently one of them. It is very offensive to me when you speak about Deputy Chief Barnes the way you have. He isn't even part of this election and you still think it is appropriate to degrade him, when he spent 20 years working for the citizens of Lyon County. You my sir are a jerk. As for the morale of the Sheriff's Office, the "whiner" deputies and the ones with "low morale" need to remember the Sheriff's Office is here to protect the Lyon County Citizens not to make the employees happy by letting them wear shorts or getting them the faciest cars with l.e.d light bars.The Sheriff's Office is not here to make a fashion statement. Furthermore, Deputy Chief Barnes actually worked his butt off in getting new and improved equipment for the "whiner, low morale" deputies. And for you to suggest you might be "the next cop that pulls me over,' or the criminal next door" sounds like a threat or a way to intimidate me, to which you should watch what you say. Additionally,I believe you are right in saying Allan Veil is the best choice, but I think he doesn't think the way you do, nor does he subscribe to your propaganda.

Thursday, 24 August 2006 - 2:39 PM PDT

Bull Winkle and Jinx, apparently you thought I was kidding what I told everyone to stick to the campaign. One more rock throwing incident on either side and you will be kicked out of here. I will only say this once. Your comments are childish and unwarranted.

Thursday, 24 August 2006 - 2:41 PM PDT

I will only say this once more. Stick to the issues. This is NOT the Josh or Ken Barnes show. This is NOT the Bull Winkle and Rocky show. I'm going to be looking hard at these comments now. You people are getting ridiculous.

Friday, 25 August 2006 - 10:40 AM PDT

I stringly urge all citizens to talk with each candidate and find out what they are all about. I suggest you talk with the Sheriff's Office employees that live and/or work in your community and find out what the real problems are.

The Sheriff cannot just create new positions or units. He needs approval from the Board of County Commissioners.

There has been a 1.9% increase in crime from 2004 to 2005. Just check the Department of Public Safety Web Site.

If morale is so bad, why are there so many 10, 15, and 20 year employees?

The last time we elected a California cop he staged a bank robbery in Fernley.

Friday, 25 August 2006 - 10:43 AM PDT

George the Idiot, How can you compare a great man like Duke to Kingsley. Duke got his numbers somewhere and we all know UCR is garbage. Wake up and realize that Duke is the man

Friday, 25 August 2006 - 2:17 PM PDT

ape man. Since you are the one who brought it up, please enlighten us as to duke's greatness. We can all use a good laugh. ape, you also fail to address the morale issue just like duke does every time he is asked. As for your opinion of the UCR and other statistics, bet we could say the same for duke's stats too. I still wonder though, what makes a physical wreck like duke think he is fit to command the Sheriff's Office let alone not be a liability to the county. Remember, when duke stresses out and the big one hits, its our tax dollars that will be paying for it and I assume that means you also.

Tuesday, 29 August 2006 - 9:02 AM PDT

Thomas, I did not right my sarcasim well. I was trying to show what an idiot Duke is. Sorry for confusion

Friday, 1 September 2006 - 10:35 PM PDT

As a wife of a Deputy Sheriff, I am concerned about my husband's rights and future. I don't see any comfort in the forseeable future coming from Charlie Duke. He appears to be on his own agenda and rampage. It was wrong of him not to thank the people who voted for him. Instead, he continues to bad mouth the current administration. The current administration is gone in 2 more month regardless. Yes, Veil is the right choice. The only choice. Duke will be hard pressed to get any of John's or Kahn's votes so unless some miracle happens, he's out of it anyway.

Monday, 11 September 2006 - 9:12 AM PDT

The men and women of the LCSO have spoken. They endorse Capt. Veil as their candidate for Sheriff. Sheriff Dennis Balaam of Washoe County has endorsed Capt. Veil. These people are trained professionals that recognize a leader and a man of integrity. Good luck Capt. Veil

Tuesday, 12 September 2006 - 10:23 PM PDT

Just a brief note to some of the people who have written on this site. Being a cop is a pain in the ass no matter where you work, and morale is usually related to monetary compensation and not shiny stickers on cars. The grass is never really greener, just a little better pay. The people of Lyon County should be happy they have as many quality, dedicated deputies as they do. Having worked in different agencies I miss the days I spent in Lyon, and the comraderie I had with my crew. When voting for sheriff the voters need to pay heed to integrity of the candidate; the highest representative of law enforcement for the county should reflect integrity, honesty, and commitment to the position. Lyon County has been spoiled for some time by having Sheriff Smith setting such a high example of the office. Voters should listen to the tone and issues brought forth in the campaign for office, as this person will represent you as well as work for you. Cpt. Veil was always honest and straightforward in all the dealings I had with him, and I would wager that he will uphold the high standards instituted by Sheriff Smith. For those who think that L.A.P.D. tactics will fly in Lyon County, keep dreaming. Barnes is a glow worm.

Wednesday, 13 September 2006 - 9:33 AM PDT

Did the LCSEA endorse Mr. Veil? If so, they are being very quiet about it. I think the Deputies spporting Veil are doing so because they enjoy just driving around waving at people and getting a pay check. They are probably afraid of actually having to do their job, ie. police work.

Tuesday, 19 September 2006 - 4:27 AM PDT

Yes, the LCSEA did vote to support Veil. As for the comment about just driving around, we all work very hard. Even the ones who some of us wish would just retire already! This department is made up of a lot of quality people who work very hard and take pride in their work. If you think you know what Police work is, take the test and become one of us. It sounds like you think you have a lot to offer!
OR....
Did Charlie the chukklehead already promise you a job. Are you one of his croanies from LA?
By the way, the only reason I didn't give my name is I fear there are some uneducated voters out there who just may elect Duke as my next boss. He has already proven that he does not like any of us current deputies.

Charlie,

Give it up and let us NEVADANS live our lives and run our community.

Saturday, 23 September 2006 - 10:34 PM PDT

Why in the world is that clown Duke still trying? You're done pal. Put a fork in it. You can't really think you can sway any voters who voted for Kahn or John over to your side do you? Sheer numbers should tell you to take the ridiculous billboard off of I-80 and save your money. Congrats to Sheriff Veil.

Wednesday, 27 September 2006 - 8:56 AM PDT

I have lived in Yerington for most of my whole life, growing onions and potatoes. I have been out of my beloved Mason Valley for two months visiting my family home in Italy. I was happy when I read the local news paper and saw that Allen Veil had come out #1 in the last election. If his succes continues I will be able to sleep at night knowing that there will be NO changes and things will stay exactly as they are and have been for the last 60 years at least. This means I live in Yerington and my last name ends in a vowel and as such I can do whatever I want.

Thursday, 28 September 2006 - 10:18 AM PDT

What percentage of the LCSEA actually voted. Of the number of officers that voted what percentage voted for Allen Vail abd what percentage voted for Charlie Duke.

Friday, 29 September 2006 - 12:36 PM PDT

I am appalled at the lack of brains the people who post on here have. Duke is done. Why are we even having this discussion? He'll need divine intervention to win now.

Monday, 2 October 2006 - 12:10 PM PDT

I was reading the Leader-Courier and noticed an ad from Mr. Duke, who is running for Sheriff. I was very surprised at the contents of this ad. It eluded that most or all of the citizens of the Yerington/Mason Valley/Smith Valley area are clueless and basically shouldn't be breathing the same air the rest of Lyon County is. I called a friend of mine in the Mason Valley area and asked her to look in the Mason Valley News for a similar ad. There was none. Question is, did Mr. Duke choose not to run the ad in the MVN, or did the editor refuse to run it because of it's negative content. It would appear that Mr. Duke is attempting to do a re-make of the civil war, plotting the north against the south. Quite humerous and quite a waste of time. While I'm here, what's this about a District Judge cavorting and carrying on the Reno? And giving in to extortion? This is the guy I want making life and death decisions? I hardly think so!

Thursday, 5 October 2006 - 10:34 PM PDT

"Guiseppe",

Who are you really? Only a BIGOT would make a comment like that about Yerington. So we have a few residents of Italian descent. So what. They are subject to the same treatment by the SO as everyone else. It's the judges that have a different point of view on that one!

Friday, 6 October 2006 - 11:37 AM PDT

Raul Pineda,

It was about a 2 to 1 vote in favor of Veil, however the more interesting part was that more than enough deputies to override the entire voting amount were not concerned enough for a change to even show up or send a proxy. Add these to Veil's total and it would be about a 4 to 1 vote.

Friday, 13 October 2006 - 11:20 PM PDT

Anyone seen ole Duke's website lately? The goof can't even spell County right. And he wants to be Sheriff??? And they cant even center the page. Why is he bothering with this anyway? Veil is a shoe in now. And what's with the "Veil administration" attack on his website. Moron, it's SID SMITH'S administration right now. Even if by some miracle you get elected, good luck with obtaining K-9's. That costs M O N E Y, money the county commissioners will need for their next pay raise. Congrats to Allen Veil. Keep your low profile and don't worry about Ferdinand the Bull.

Wednesday, 8 November 2006 - 12:13 PM PST

Well, as predicted, Charlie is OUTTA HERE!!!!!!!!!!!! If you need the phone # for the U-Haul, let us know. We will even come over and help you pack up. Steve, you should have won. You've done a fine job and have nothing to be sad about. Wayne, ya shot yourself in the pecker there bud. Keep it in your pants and try again in 4 years. Mike, maybe now you can put these criminals where they belong....behind bars, not on O.R's.