PELLIGRINO HUMIDOR FAQ.
QUESTIONS & ANSWERS........
- WHY USE A HUMIDOR?
The purpose of a humidor is to keep your cigars at their peak "smokability". The
most crucial characteristic of a fine humidor is that it can provide a
constant environment of about 68' to 70' F and 70-72% humidity.
- WHAT DO I LOOK FOR IN BUYING A HUMIDOR?
Starting from the inside of the humidor, look for perfectly squared and
fitted seams. Gaps provide an exit for moisture.Unfinished Spanish Cedar
should line the interior of the humidor. Their should be an "inner lip"
protruding from the top of the box into the lid to help prevent the exchange
of moisture..
PELLIGRINO HUMIDORS USES A LOCKING SPLINE IN ITS CORNER DESIGN AND THE SELECT
SPANISH CEDAR LINING
OF THE BOX AND LID CREATES A SEAL WHICH
ENHANCES THE ABOVE RESULTS......
- WHAT TEMPERATURE IS BEST FOR STORAGE?
70 degrees. - although cooler storage temperatures are definitely not a problem
for cigars (as long as you maintain a reasonable relative humidity).
Why do we attempt to keep them at 70 deg. then?
The key is in the subtle difference between stable storage and true aging.
Your cigars will not age, mature, mellow, or develop the complex character
of well cured smokes at lower temperatures. The blended tobaccos will not
"marry", and if you're keeping them for a long time you won't get the subtle
changes in flavor.
There have been several long threads in a.s.c. on the need to age La Gloria
Cubanas, for example. These will stay "green" much longer if aged at cooler
temperatures.
At higher temperatures, there are several insects to worry about. The
microscopic eggs of the dreaded tobacco beetle, for instance, hatch at
temperatures above 80 degrees.
- Why create a humid environment with a constant relative humidity of 70%?
Cigars are naturally hydroscopic products. In common with many organic
substances, they dry out in the absence of humidity in the air, or absorb
moisture from the ambient air. They establish an equilibrium with the
atmospheric humidity which surrounds them.
At 68% a cigar will slowly dry out and loose essential oils. At 74% and higher,
organic molecules will break down out-of-order, producing unwanted tastes.
More importantly, at 80% or higher, you're leaving your stogies wide open to
grow mold. Neither cigars or humidors are a particularly sterile environment.
Note that these are relative humidities - cigars should be stored at 70 - 73%
RH regargless of temperature.
The "Variable Humidity Myth...
Many self-proclaimed "authorities" have been making a serious mistake of
confusing moisture content with relative humidity lately. At least one
well-known Cigar distributor has added strength to this legend by distributing
a table recommendinging different relative humidities at different
temperatures. Don't fall for this "urban legend"! Cigars should be kept at 70%
RH REGARDLESS of temperature or you WILL ruin them...
The modern myth of varying humidity with temperature is based on an entirely
false premise. Cigars don't care about absolute moisture content. They need
justenough moisture to keep the tobacco pliable, but not so much to swell
it. This occurs at 70-73% REGARDLESS of temperature.
Tobacco should be kept at a relative humidity which just keeps the leaves
pliable without swelling them. Since that pliability is based on the interaction
of the cellular membranes with the air surrounding them, *relative humidity*,
not absolute moisture content is what's important. This isn't chemistry,
it's mechanics - on a cellular level. Ideally, the correct point is 70-73%
regardless of temperature. At 70% relative humidity (a measure which by
definition is independent of temperature) cigar leaves become pliable without
swelling. at 75% or higher, the cells begin to swell. at 68% or lower, they
can become brittle. These points are regardless of the ambient temperature
or the absolute moisture content.
Does it make any sense to a rational person to keep their cigars at close to
100% humidity at 60 degrees?
Anyone living in cold climates can attest to the fact that at 60 deg, their
cigars are perfect at 70%, and (as they would at any temperature)
their cigars are prone to mold and swelling at humidities above 80%. Those
living in the tropics will tell you the same thing - their cigars MUST be
kept at 70% humidity at storage temperatures of 80 degrees. According to "the
table", those cigars should be at 50% humidity? I'll tell you what...
If the humidity drops below 68%, your cigars will become dry and crack - I
couldn't even imagine how badly dried out they'd be at 50%!
Try it yourself. The "logic" of varying RH with temp falls apart in the real
world. Moisture content is NOT why we keep cigars at 70% humidity...
Here's a more scientific explanation debunking the myth of varying humidity
from David E. Patton, Ph.D. at the Department of Physiology, UCLA School
of Medicine... ....."There has been extensive discussion on A.S.C. concerning
the effects of temperature on humidity and its application to proper cigar
storage. Much of the confusion concerning these concepts comes from not
understanding what is happening at the molecular level. My goal is to explain
some of the revalent concepts and then to put the concepts together in such a
way as to give an intuitive understanding of how they relate to cigar storage.
Cigars are made from tobacco leaves. Tobacco leaves (like most plant
material) consist primarily of carbohydrates and proteins. Protein and
carbohydrate molecules contain many binding sites for water molecules. A
certain proportion of the water binding sites need to be occupied by water
molecules in order for the tobacco leaves to be adequately pliable, to burn
properly and to age properly. So when we think about humidity as it relates to
cigar storage, the most revalent factor to consider is: are the correct
proportion of water binding sites occupied? Water molecules bind to other
molecules via hydrogen bonds. Van der Waals interactions also participate.
This applies to water bound to protein and carbohydrate molecules
(e.g. tobacco leaves) or to other water molecules (e.g. liquid water). For the
purposes of this discussion, water bound to tobacco leaves will be treated
like liquid water.
Temperature is the main factor determining whether a water molecule will be
more likely to be in either the gas or liquid (or bound) phases. This is
because at higher temperatures, water molecules (like any other molecule)
will have more kinetic energy. The more kinetic energy a molecule has,
the higher its probability of being in the gas phase. This is because it will
have sufficient kinetic energy to break out of the hydrogen bonds and
Van der Waals interactions that would otherwise keep it bound. At lower
temperatures molecules have less kinetic energy so when they collide with
a carbohydrate molecule, for example, its kinetic energy is insuficient to
break away from it. The important point here is that at higher temperatures,
a water molecule is more likely to be in the gas phase and less likely to be
bound. At lower temperatures a water molecule is more likely to be bound and
less likely to be in the gas phase.
Another point that needs to be explained here is the concept of relative
humidity. Simply stated, relative humidity is the ratio of the concentration
of water in the gas phase divided by the maximal concentration of water the air
can hold (the saturating concentration) at a given temperature. Air holds
more water at higher temperatures. Therefore, if you hold the relative
humidity constant and increase the temperature, the concentration of water
molecules in the gas phase will increase. If you think about this superficially
you may think that because the concentration of water molecules increases
in the gas phase as you increase the temperature (holding relative humidity
constant)that your cigars will become over-humidified. This is WRONG.
Remember, as you increase the temperature, the water molecules are less
likely to be bound to the tobacco and more likely to be in the gas phase.
Thus, to keep the same proportion of water binding sites in the tobacco
occupied by water molecules, the concentration of water molecules in the gas
phase must be increased when temperature is increased."
Again, cigars should be stored at 70 - 73% relative humidity, regardless of
temperature. Period.
HUMIDIFYING DEVICES...
Perhaps the most important part of your cigar storage system is the humidifying
device, or credo. Maintaining proper humidity will either make or break your
humidor system. There are dozen's of commercial systems available, but perhaps
the "king" of them all is the original "Credo". The Credo device is a self
regulating reservoir. The secret to a Credo is the use of a physio-chemical
solution (propylene glycol and distilled water in a mix of approximately
50/50). Remember this "secret" later, as it will become increasing important...
The original Credo is manufactured in France by:
Credo
34, rue Roussel Doria
13004 Marseille, France
Telephone: 91 85 46 36
Fax: 91 34 54 31
Distributed in the US by Holloc-Rohr, Bell, CA.
- HOW DOES THE USE OF PROPYLENE GLYCOL (mixed with distilled water) AID
IN THE HUMIDIFICATION OF CIGARS?
Any solution with a fixed composition has a fixed vapor pressure at a given
temperature and total pressure. If the solution has only one volatile
component (water), then the vapor pressure is caused by that component only
(i.e., you won't find PG in the vapor phase). By coincidence, the vapor
pressure over a mixture of PG and water is about 70%.
To put it more simply, PG is a hydroscopic substance - It absorbs moisture
from the environment (like a salt shaker does in humid weather). The distilled
water evaporates until the ambient humidity approaches 70%. At that point the
PG won't allow any more moisture in the air. Conversely, if there is too much
moisture in the air, the PG solution absorbs the excess, bringing the system
down to 70% as well.
PG is certainly not the only solution which will regulate humidity properly
for cigar storage. As several posters have pointed out, a glycerin solution
will also work in a credo. Being a thicker substance, I feel that glycerin
solutions ultimately "plug-up" the pores of your medium, reducing it's
effective surface area. Both are non-toxic, but PG actually has anti-bacterial
properties, which means you may use it alone, where glycerin should be mixed
with some sort of inhibitor to prevent "nasties" from growing inside your
credo. (this is the "secret formula" in some glycerin based solutions).
- How much distilled water do I mix with it?
50/50 to start. It's not that critical, as the water evaporates eventually
anyway - the proportions are constantly changing because of this. Don't forget
to usedistilled water to replenish is as needed.
- .....Does the PG eventually evaporate or dissipate?.....
Eventually is a long time, and evaporate / dissipate the wrong words. in
several years the PG will become less effective due to reactions with
contaminants in the air (er, like tobacco smoke for instance )(G&D). I
recommend changing it ever year or so because of this phenomena. Using the
same PG for 3-5 years with just water replenishment is not uncommon however.
If your credo isn't regulating the environment like it used to, it might be
time for a change. A common problem causing loss of PG is over-watering when
recharging. Any water which runs through your credo is removing PG as it
runs out! Careful re-charging will avoid this.
- I just made a credo and my humidity's too high!
A new oasis will take days (up to a week) to stabilize. This is because PG
does not regulate through partial vapor pressures, as the salt test does.
PG regulates through a tenso-active (surface tension) process. The PG and
water do not create a solution, it's actually a mixture (with seperate
components). The PG essentially migrates to the surfaces, sealing in the
water in a lower layer. It takes time for these components to migrate to their
proper positions in the oasis and begin regulation.
-
I used filtered tap water instead of distilled. What's going to happen?
Your credo is going to become less and less efficient over time. Filtered tap
water is full of all the dissolved minerals which will ultimately plug your
credo. The PH is balanced in tap water with chemicals which may interfere
with the PG and cause variations in your humidity. Spring for a $0.69 gallon
jug of distilled water. It'll make a difference.
-
Should I dilute the whole bottle at once and hold onto the solution?
It doesn't matter. Pre-mixed or not, PG is a stable compound - It'll keep well
for years. It may pick up odors from it's environment, so be sure to store it
in a suitable container.
- Where can I buy Propylene Glycol?
PG is available (though often only by special order from any full-service
Pharmacist. The cost varies from $5 to $8 per pint. Pharmacologically, it's
used as a solvent for oral and injectable drugs.... It also has many uses
as a chemical solvent, as well as being used in many cosmetics.
PG is also available from many feed-stores, as it is used as a feed additive
and a medical treatment for livestock.
- By mail-order?
Chem-Lab Supplies
714-630-7902
about $6/pint + about $5 for shipping
also try...
Tri-Ess Sciences
Burbank, CA
818-848-7838
Springfield Scientific
1124 Main ST
Springfield OR 97477
1-800-344-2047
Sigma Chemical Company.
1-800-325-3010
And FYI, Propylene glycol is also mixed with some pipe tobaccos and cheap
drug-store cigars so they won't require humidification (YUCK!!!).
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