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Subject: I am diabetic have been taking vit From: E.J. To: All Date Posted: Fri, May 08, 1998 at 20:30:05 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Hi my name is EJ, I have asked Robynn to post some more about my condition. I was visiting Robynn and spent about a week with her family. While I was there Robynn served me vitamin concoctions in the mornings and another at bedtime. Periodically she would fix me another in the midafternoon. I am diabetic, disabled, overweight, and have been trying to get my doctor to take me off of antidepressants. I keep going in and telling him I feel fine and asking him to lower my dosages but he keeps upping them. I don't know why. I was feeling pretty blue when I got to Robynn's house about the situation. My sugar levels were way out of whack and I had no energy. As Robynn told you before almost immediately after taking the vitamins my sence of smell began to return. I have not had that sence for 10 years now. All the men in my family have lost it. It is just wonderful to smell flowers in the air again. Stopping to smell the roses takes on NEW meaning for me. Well I have been taking the vitamins for a little over a week now. I have MORE energy. My usual routine, for the past two years, has included,A MUST STOP to take a nap in the middle of the day. Today I did not need a nap, I worked all day here. Putting something together. It felt really good to put in a whole day. I have not been able to do that at all. Robynn warned me when I first started to take these vitamins that I should consider not taking the Aloe product in the beginning. It is the one that diabetics usually need to wait to take until their sugars are under control. I told her, I feel fine, I monitor my sugar everyday, I am not worried. Will Robynn was right. My sugar went sky high. I wanted all the good from the vitamins so I didn't want to NOT take any of them. So I was taking them every other day. Robynn called to see how I was doing and when I told her, She said, 'No E.J. TAKE your vitamins leave off the Aloe. Just put it away until later.' Will it has been 5 days now without the aloe. I have been taking the vitamins everyday MY SUGARS ARE COMING DOWN!!! They are coming down, this is INCREDIBLE I do have mesurably more energy and I am feeling GREAT!! Maybe next time I go see my doctor he will finally let me taper off those anti depressants. My dreams are continuing to be very intense. I am loving the nights now. It is soooo goood to dream again with vivid pictures. In the mornings I feel sooo much renewed my sleep is now nourishing me. Where as before I could never get enough of it even with daily naps. I am taking the Calcium Magnisium drink with the Bio Night stirred into it. These vitamins may be expensive but A GOOD NIGHTS SLEEP IS WORTH THE PRICE. Everything else is icing on the cake. E.J.

Subject: Re: Food for Thought ... From: Jody To: Robynn/All Date Posted: Fri, May 08, 1998 at 19:13:10 (PDT) Email Address: jjean@mdn.net Message: Robynn, This site is SO GREAT for info on VitaMixers ... you sure had a GREAT IDEA!! Especially for someone contemplating buying a VitaMix vs. a traditional juicer. I know had I had access to this info before I bought my VitaMix, I could have saved myself a lot of the time I spent trying to figure out what I wanted to buy. Anyway, reason for my post ... have been reading A LOT when trying to decide on my purchase. I did see a posting from someone just recently that mentioned all the 'juicing' books in the bookstores recommend 'traditonal' juicers and DO CALL the VitaMix a 'glorified' blender. So it may be ... BUT ... if you read any health-type books (such as herbal-type remedies), and I do read these, because I have had a medical problem that has been helped NOT BY traditional prescriptions (with their horrid side effects), but by herbs (that you get in a health food store). ANYWAY ... it seems to me, the books that are written about herbal healing RECOMMEND BLENDER JUICING. One actually recommend the VitaMix. A few of these books are 'Heinerman's Encyclopedia of Healing Juices' by John Heinerman, PhD. and 'The Green Pharmacy' by James A. Duke, Ph.D. Dr. Heinerman has several health-related herbal books out and in each one STRESSES the importance of juicing with the VitaMix. In the book mentioned above he actually prints out comparisons on the VitaMix vs. juicers in amount of time spent on preparation, amount of fruit needed for juicing, actual juicing and clean-up time. The VitaMix was recomended, hands down, every time. Also Prevention Magazine was quoted as saying what a good 'juicer' the VitaMix is. They also did a comparison that he talks about. I am sure these books are available at the library, but they sure are nice to have around if you have any medical/health questions of your own ... I really think they are worth buying. Plus they are very interesting to read! Hope this may have helped someone in their decision to purchase a VitaMix vs. juicer. I KNOW I made the right decision for my family! Bye for now, Jody

Subject: Composting/Rose Fertilizer From: Jody To: All Date Posted: Fri, May 08, 1998 at 18:48:38 (PDT) Email Address: jjean@mdn.net Message: Have a Question for the Gardeners Out There ... I am going to mix up my 1st batch of compost from my leftovers to go into my roses (I have about 40). I think this will be my 4th year for my roses. I try to use organic fertilizers (Alaska Fish Fertilizer, epsom salts, seaweed fertilzer, etc.) as much as possible. But, my question is ... as Robynn says, if, when I use this wonderful mixture of goop to feed my soil, and get lots of worms, if I use a systemic fertilizer, such as Ortho's Rose Fertilizer (it's like a weed 'n feed) ... it is a granular you put around the base of each plant to help feed it and good for fungas, aphids, etc., will this then kill the very worms I am feeding? Please respond ASAP, as I feel it is soon going to be time to put this Ortho fertilizer on my bushes. I did use this last year for the first time and did not have to spray my roses with any chemicals at all. The year before I had to spray EVERY WEEK to keep fungas, aphids, etc. down. But last year I think I just hand-picked the aphids off and didn't have too much a problem with fungas. Any replies will be greatly appreciated!! Thanks, Jody

Subject: Re: Composting/Rose Fertilizer From: robynn To: Jody Date Posted: Fri, May 08, 1998 at 19:59:08 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Hi Jody, i have posted your above message at the Vermicomposting BBS where worms and composting are all they talk about. I am sure that soon we will have some good answers. i will post them here as they come in.

Subject: milling in vita mix From: julie To: All Date Posted: Fri, May 08, 1998 at 03:53:44 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: How does the flour turn out compared to electric grin mill's flour?

Subject: WANTED: used Vita Mix From: julie To: All Date Posted: Fri, May 08, 1998 at 03:51:57 (PDT) Email Address: chthorp@boone.net Message: I'd appreciate any leads Thanks, Julie

Subject: A question about breadmaking From: Mariam To: All Date Posted: Thurs, May 07, 1998 at 13:55:20 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: When you make bread the vitamix way, do you scrape out every bit of dough or leave the stuff attached to the blades and below it?

Subject: Business trips From: Ken To: All Date Posted: Wed, May 06, 1998 at 23:14:24 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I'm trying to find a unit I can take with me on business trips. > (I know it will be somewhat heavy...) Do you think the Vita Mix would be a feasible travel companion?

Subject: Re: Business trips From: Jody To: Ken Date Posted: Fri, May 08, 1998 at 20:53:45 (PDT) Email Address: jjean@mdn.net Message: Ken I am not lucky enought to go on business trips, but I DO KNOW I will be taking my VitaMix on my week-long Summer vacation to the lake this year ... wouldn't want to be without it for a whole week. As for taking it on business trips, do you drive or fly? It is bigger than a tradional blender, the base is about 8x8x6 and the plastic container is about 12' high. It would easily fit into something like an athletic gym bag. But you would want to be fairly careful of it. Read Robynn's 'food for thought' on the benefits of the VitaMix. ALSO, for travelling, the VitaMix is a snap to clean, would be very easy to clean on the road. Hope this has helped! Jody

Subject: Pandora-What I learned about wheat- From: Kathy To: All Date Posted: Wed, May 06, 1998 at 19:45:49 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I went to Follow Your Heart today...I bought a package of Bob's Red Mill soft white wheat berries...this says it can be ground into a fine whole wheat pastry flour and used in the place of white flour for pancakes,muffins,cookies,cakes,or any recipe calling for baking powder or soda as a rising agent...it says on the package for yeast breads use Hard Red Spring Wheat Flour...then I bought a package of Arrowhead Mills Whole Grain Wheat...ingredients organically produced whole grain wheat...they also have the bulk bins, which is where I bought the Wheat Berries...ingredients hard red wheat...I'm not sure what I'm going to do with all this, experiment I guess...I also have King Arthurs White Wheat Flour...this I buy in a bag, I think this is the hard white wheat...so I'm concluding that pastry flour is made from the soft wheat, and it's all called wheat berries until it's ground...in the book (the brown booklet) it says use whole grain wheat berries...so I'm going to do a little experimenting...on the white wheat berries it says use in recipes calling for baking powder or soda...but I have a recipe in the booklet for cinnamon rolls that calls for white flour but uses yeast...I think I'm going to try it with the white wheat berries...also wondering if I could add gluten to a bread recipe and use it...anyway I'm off tonight, kinda bored, and I have LOTS of wheat to play around with...I'll let you know...

Subject: Re: Pandora-What I learned about wheat- From: Mariam To: Kathy Date Posted: Thurs, May 07, 1998 at 13:51:23 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Whole wheat pastry flour is great for East Indian unleavened flat bread (chapatti). There is a recipe in vegsource site. It takes a bit of practice but the taste is so much better than commercial tortillas or pita.

Subject: Vegan Strawberry Rice Cream... From: Pandora To: All Date Posted: Wed, May 06, 1998 at 00:58:30 (PDT) Email Address: silva123@earthlink.net Message: I thought I would post this unusual recipe I came across at Deborah's recipe site. Strawberry Rice Cream vegsource.com/wwwboard/recipes/messages/7350.html

Subject: Vitamins-Safe for diabetics? From: Sam To: All Date Posted: Tues, May 05, 1998 at 16:09:44 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I have read all of the posts about vitamins and I have been to the biometics web site- I found it all very interesting but I am diabetic and not sure whether these are really a good choice for my condition. Do you have more information for me?

Subject: Re: Vitamins-Safe for diabetics? From: robynn To: Sam Date Posted: Tues, May 05, 1998 at 16:54:35 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Hi Sam, - 1 adult daily dose of the vitamins and the aloe is equal to the sugar of one banana. These vitamins and minerals are totaly safe for diabetics. The only concern would be the Aloe product it can send your sugars out of whack in the beginning. But once you have been on the vitamins and minerals for awhile a diabetic can include the aloe without any problems. Your system should start to get regulated and more balanced just from taking the other products, then the aloe can be added in a month or two down the road. There is another product that is very beneficial for diabetics to take it is called bio thin- It was developed for diabetics and then others found that it helped with weight loss programs so it was renamed and is part of a weight loss kit now. It is also sold seperately. It actually helps to take sugar out of the blood.

Subject: Would the Vita Mix be right for my From: Chris To: All Date Posted: Tues, May 05, 1998 at 14:43:43 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: What do you recommend. We have 5 children ages 8yrs to 5 mths. Do you recommend one of these. A friend has one and I saw one demo at a fair as well. We will be using it mostly for juices. What other uses are there for a young family. Thanks

Subject: I would say so.... From: Kathy To: Chris Date Posted: Tues, May 05, 1998 at 15:45:40 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: 5 kids...you'd never put the thing away....first, you'd save a bundle on giving them whold juice...it's way cheaper, and way better to make it yourself, fresh, you know what's in it, you could start them off every morning with a whole juice, and they'd love it...you could make your own baby food for the little one, same reasons, you would know what you put in it, economical, just puree some of the family meal, fresh...bread...you must use alot of bread...you can seriously get a loaf of whole grain bread, ground from the grain (grain 69 cents a lb) ready to rise and bake in 5 min...you'd probably have to do two, so make that 10 min...again you know exactly what's in the bread...and it is wonderful...I think it would be a wise investment for you...the kids would love it...you can make them hot soup in minutes...keep a bowl of rice or noodles in the refrigerator to add to it...and you can feed them all in minutes for really next to nothing...and they will love it...how about ice cream? we all know it's not a very healthy food, and it is expensive...one frozen bag of fruit, like strawberries, a little non-dairy creamer, or yogurt, and a little bit of sugar and you have ice cream and it's delicious...I make it, but my problem is I have to wait til we are all here to eat it...I have froze it, that's works fine too, but it's not the same as the fresh from the machine soft serve ice cream...I make it for company...no one can believe how fast I do it, from start to finish...maybe 2 minutes! Puddings, sauces, soups, cakes, smoothies, whole fruit juices, pancakes... I could just go on...fresh pancakes from whole grain, just a couple of minutes away...I usually make them the night before and then we just microwave what we want...I love this machine, can you tell?

Subject: New Owner Tips From: Jody To: Kathy/All Date Posted: Mon, May 04, 1998 at 18:34:00 (PDT) Email Address: jjean@mdn.net Message: Kathy, Thanks for the tofu tips!! I will have to buy some more; loved the pudding. But it is hard for me to remember to buy all this NEW HEALTHY FOOD I am preparing now! I really liked the pudding and will try the pie w/graham cracker crust! NEW OWNER TIP! I was making a smoothie (showing my mother how my 'new toy' worked) and I had to use the tamper. Well I did that just fine, but I forgot to put the clear plug back on and had strawberry smoothie right up on my ceiling. Boy, did my mother and son get a good laugh out of that. It's an easy thing to forget after you have used the tamper, because then you're not on high power ... I'm sure I'm not the only one to have done this. Bye for now, Jody

Subject: Re: I am so impressed we are all learning HTML codes From: robynn To: Jody Date Posted: Mon, May 04, 1998 at 19:01:18 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: We are learning quite a bit from each other!!This is is a lot of fun! I am so glad all of you are sharing so much.

Subject: Jody...another use for tofu... From: Kathy To: All Date Posted: Mon, May 04, 1998 at 14:52:27 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I just made cinnamon raisin bread...the recipe in the whole foods book (the little brown one) calls for cottage cheese, well I didn't have any, as I don't use cottage cheese at all, so I used 1/2 cup of tofu, I had it in the cupboard, it took about half the package (Mori Nu in the little asceptic packages)...I just had a piece of this bread...and it is wonderful...so you can substitute tofu for alot of dairy products...now the other half I can add into some smoothies, or make another loaf of bread later...this recipe called for all-purpose flour, which I did have, so that's what I used, I want to try it with whole wheat, as I just bought another bag of wheat berries today, run out all the time!

Subject: Re: Jody...another use for tofu... From: Pandora To: Kathy Date Posted: Tues, May 05, 1998 at 08:38:52 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Wheatberries? I grind Hard Red Wheat. I thought that soft Wheatberries was for making pastry flour. All your stuff is coming out okay? I will have to look for that cinnamon bread recipe. I LOVE cinnamon.

Subject: I buy it in the bulk section... From: Kathy To: Pandora Date Posted: Tues, May 05, 1998 at 09:57:02 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: of Whole Foods...it says Wheat Berries, then when you read the small print it says Hard Red Wheat...I still have not found the White....but if the bulk is empty, they have it in bags and it's called Whole Grain Wheat...it costs more, that's why I buy in bulk...they also sell it at Follow Your Heart, I'll have to look and see what they call it in their bulk section...I go to Whole Foods more often, because it is literally around the corner, Follow Your Heart is about a 15 min drive...I know, I'm fortunate to have these types of stores so close...I work at a Vons, and we don't sell it at all....I thought it was the grind of the wheat that made Pastry flour different? I thought it was ground finer...does anyone know?

Subject: Pastry flour is made with soft wheat... From: Pandora To: Kathy Date Posted: Wed, May 06, 1998 at 00:52:27 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: as opposed to hard wheat. Less gluten in it. I just thought that wheatberries were soft wheat. Guess not. I think the word 'berry' just makes me think of something soft. You are so lucky to have these cool places so close to you. I just went to a Whole Foods for the first time a couple of months ago. I was in heaven. We just came across it accidently while making a trip out to Tustin. My poor boyfriend just trudged along after me as I checked out every aisle. The closest cool market I have to go to is Wild Oats in Pasadena. I try to get there once a month. I do have a Trader Joe's right near me at least.

Subject: Trader Joe's... From: Kathy To: Pandora Date Posted: Wed, May 06, 1998 at 10:19:07 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I go there too...they have bags of frozen pineapple and mango...which are great for smoothies...they don't sell any whole grain or wheatberries though...that I've seen anyway...I like the store because you never know what you'll find there, last trip they had homemade flour tortillas, I never got one, but my daughters said they were great!...There is also a little vegetarian chinese food restaurant, called Vegetable Delight, everything is made with gluten and tofu and mushrooms, haven't checked if vegan, I'll have to do that next time...they are a little more expensive then normal chinese food restaurants, but the food is incredible...first time I went there was for an Earthsave dinner, which makes me think it must be vegan...anyway it's in Granada Hills, I only pick up food there a few times a year...it's really good...I'm going to have to inquire about the whole grain/wheatberry thing...like I said, the bin in the bulk section says wheat berries, but when you read the little card on it, it says hard red wheat (I think)...I'll check it out next time...yes I know I'm lucky...there are alot of places around here to shop and eat out...I'm close to being vegan...don't drink or use milk, but if I'm out, and get a mocha, I'll get milk, don't use eggs, but if I'm somewhere and someone gives me a cookie or cake, I'll eat it if an egg is in it, however I could not eat a plate of eggs, went to a baby shower Sunday, at a cute little place, they served quich (how do you spell that?)...anyway, I politely refused that, cheese and eggs, I can't do, but they also had fresh fruit and scones, which I had, didn't inquire if eggs were in the scones, just made sure I had a fruit one...I've tried veganism, and it's difficult for me to investigate everything...I do try to buy animal free cosmetics/cleaners...because I have a problem knowing 'dead animal parts' are in my stuff...that's pretty easy...anyway, it's a progressive thing...and I'm toward the end somewhere...

Subject: Re: Trader Joe's...And the samples!.. From: Pandora To: Kathy Date Posted: Thurs, May 07, 1998 at 00:45:33 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I also look forward to the goodies I get to taste! Veganism is a progressive thing. I remember I tried it a few years ago and decided it was too much work. I stopped using dairy in the home, except for 'special occasion' baking and cooking, but would eat dairy when I was out. I also would accept food offered to me that had dairy. I am doing a lot better this time. I don't order dairy dishes in restaurants any more. But I don't ask ingredients and make a big fuss either. I also can't refuse a dairy meal when I know someone made it especially for me. The first time I went to my fiance's house for dinner, his mom made a special Baked Macaroni and Cheese casserole just for me. What could I do? I forced myself to eat. The damn thing was delicious. The rest of the family ate Spaghetti and m**tballs. She said she was originally going to give me the same thing as everyone else and just leave out the m**tballs but her daughter informed her that I couldn't eat the sauce because she used beef broth. So, at least the daughter saved me from that one. I WON'T eat flesh products at all. You know, I forgot we have a really good chinese restaurant in my town that has a whole vegetarian section on the menu. A lot of gluten meals. Sweet and Sour 'chicken,' and lots of other good stuff. Mmmmm. I'm getting hungry.

Subject: Tips.... From: Kathy To: All Date Posted: Mon, May 04, 1998 at 13:17:57 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: ALWAYShave the lid securely snapped on when on HI (especially when cleaning)...also have the lid on and remove center piece onlywhen using the tamper...I have never done it, but I caught myself a few times trying to take the lid off, instead on just the center piece, when getting ready to use the tamper

Subject: Re: Tips.... From: Robynn To: Kathy Date Posted: Mon, May 04, 1998 at 14:30:25 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: You know we all had a good a laugh when Keith actually did it- but I have caught myself doing that to. It is when you are not thinking on auto pilot. The other really important tip Is if you are going to turn the machine on from the off position without the tamper in place or that little center lid. Cover the hole in the center of the lid with your hand. To keep stuff from flying out and redecorating your walls!

Subject: Official VM rice milk recipe From: Robynn To: All Date Posted: Sun, May 03, 1998 at 22:54:39 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: 1/2 cup brown rice, cooked 2 cups water 1/2 -1 tablespoons brown sugar or other sweetner to taste Place ingredients in container and run on HIGH speed for 2-3 minutes or until smooth. Pour into a container with lid and cool in refrigerator. Shake well before using. Cooks note: Add 1/2 teaspoon vanilla if desired. I have never tried this recipe for rice milk before. I have been somewhat squeamish to make it but this sounds very easy. People keep telling me how good it is. I went to a mexican place this weekend and everyone but me ordered it. they told me how good it was and made me try it. Before they took a sip. It was GROSS! Then they took sips and spit it out. They said that it was the worst tasting rice milk they had ever been served. I am going to make this- but first I have to make rice. I wish you could just throw the grain in the vita mix, make flour, then and add water...

Subject: Re: VegSource rice milk recipe From: Robynn To: Robynn Date Posted: Sun, May 03, 1998 at 22:59:31 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Rice Milk 4 cups hot/warm water 1 cup cooked rice (I've used white or brown) 1 tsp vanilla Place all ingredients in a blender until smooth. Let the milk set for about 30 minutes, then without shaking pour the milk into another container ( i use an old honey jar) leaving most of the sediment in the first container. This makes about 4 - 4 1/2 cups. Notes: When I have used cold water and the rice was taken out of the refrigerator, it just doesn't come out that well. I don't know why but its best to use warm water and warm rice (you can nuke it if its leftovers but freshly made is best) I have even let it set longer than 30 minutes (overnight) without it making a difference.

Subject: Re: VegSource rice milk recipe From: Mary To: Robynn Date Posted: Tues, May 05, 1998 at 12:13:09 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Can someone tell me what other uses there are for Rice Milk besides drinking?

Subject: Baking...just about anything you'd use milk for...nt From: Kathy To: Mary Date Posted: Tues, May 05, 1998 at 14:35:30 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: *

Subject: Re: Has anyone made ricemil with both a blender an the Vitamixer? From: Robynn To: Robynn Date Posted: Sun, May 03, 1998 at 23:02:30 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I am curious if someone has made rice milk with both types of machines a blender and the vitamixer? Is there less sediment when you use the vita mix? Is the texture different?

Subject: I've only made it with the VM... From: Pandora To: Robynn Date Posted: Mon, May 04, 1998 at 09:37:28 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: and there just isn't much sediment. I felt straining was a waste of time. I think the VM would cut way down on sediment cuz it is so powerful. I know my smoothies and sauces are way smoother with the VM. I have had horchata (mexican rice drink) before and sometimes it is really good and others times not so good. I guess it just depends on who makes it because they add other spices and stuff. Everyone probably has their own recipe.

Subject: Pandora's report after trying vitam From: Robynn & Pandora To: All Date Posted: Sun, May 03, 1998 at 10:13:29 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Pandora sent me an email after trying the vitamins that you have been reading posts about. Everything preceeded with '>' is What Pandora is writing and the rest is my response to her. > I got the vitamins!Ê The taste isn't bad at all.Ê I divided it up > though, and have been taking it 3x a day, so that cuts down on the > sweetness.Ê That is fine my parents take theirs over the day too that would certainly cut down on any waste. Your body would have to utilize the vitamins more efficiently. Often I take the vitamins through out the day and other times like this morning I made the whole cup and I am sipping while at the computer. When I have let myself get famished I make a whole cup and chug it. Just because I want it. That chases a hunger headache and gives me the energy to make food instead of shoving anything at hand into my mouth. >I divide the Get Go'N in half and mix it with the Bio Fuel > twice a day.Ê That hasn't bothered my stomach at all.Ê I don't need to > mix anything else in with it.Ê I actually think it tastes like punch. That is absolutly okay. That is exactly what I did at first. I usually take the whole dose at one time in the morning now, just because I want to make sure that I take it. > I noticed that it says the Get Go is best taken on an empty > stomach.ÊÊÊ The Bio Fuel doesn't say that though.Ê Is it okay to take > that on an empty stomach?Ê Normal vitamins you are supposed to take > with food, so I didn't know which way to go. I try to take mine in the morning I make up my big cup of everything hot or room temp and sip some while getting ready in the morning. The whole cup first thing in the morning is too much for me to drink fast. But I sip some, get some into the kids, get them off to school, sip some more after my shower, and while I am putting on my makeup. By then it is gone and I get my breakfast sometime after that. They say take on an empty stomach -15 minutes before your meals. You can take them with food, you just aren't going to be as aware of the vitamins in your system they will digest with your food and be absorbed fine though. The Get Go N can be taken after fruit or toast or crackers but should not be taken after meat, eggs, cheese or milk those proteins have amino acids that cancel out the benefits of the different amino acids in the Get Go N - It won't hurt you but you won't get the benefits from either set of Amino Acids- They are canceled. That is why they say eat on an empty stomach so that you don't have to think about what you are eating them with. Some people can't take B vitamins without something in their stomachs. You and I certainly fit that category in the past. I fit that category when I first began taking these vitamins but now I can take them fine. I get to report also that I have never been able to tolerate green chiles or peppers they caused my stomach great distress. Stomach aches and repeating. Just a little bit with my food and I would burp those peppers for 24 hours. On Friday I got a burito and the man forgot and included chiles in mine. I ate it thinking this will be a good experiment with the aloe product- I will go home and take the aloe product and see what happens. Boy that burito was HOT! I am not used to that kind of food - I Have never been able to tolerate it! Usually my stomach knots immediately after swallowing it and I start burping gas from the peppers within 5 minutes of eating it.I was fine I did not have any of my normal reaction. When I got home 2 hours later I fixed myself a cup of Aloe- a Tablespoon with 4 ounces of water- on ice- Makes a delicious cold peach drink. Drank that and never once had a repeat or burping problem. This may open a new world for me- Everyone makes fun of me when I have to order foods without green peppers or chiles. They don't believe me when I say I can't eat them. > > I know it must be too soon to have any sort of results but I swear I > don't have any cravings for sweets.Ê Maybe it's psychological because > you told me it cut your cravings.Ê This happened for me almost immediately too! I thought the same thing. Most people do have nearly instant reactions to these vitamins that is why I am so excited about these PARTICULAR vitamins. I mean really when have you ever heard anyone get excited about vitamins? When have you ever thought, my gosh, I think these vitamins have just made my life easier or better? The incredible part is that you have just scratched the tip of the iceburg. If the vitamins can start helping you within days just think what your body can do with them in weeks and in months? You are providing your body with super (nutrition) tools to build a better stronger body for you. >I went to a party last night and > didn't touch any of the goodies they had out.Ê Very unusual for me. I > just didn't feel like sweet food. Normally I am thinking about sweets > all day long and fighting off urges.Ê Psychological or not, I love > it!! See NO-ONE can believe that these vitamins can really help 'me' with 'my' sweet tooth. 'My sweet tooth is greater than all others!' I know that may be it helped someone else but 'MINE' has more control over ME! These vitamins give YOU control. So even when you do give in and try a little you only eat a little. THAT IS AMAZING!! > I've read that B vitamins help people to not have hang overs.Ê I could > never take B vitamins though cuz they make me sick.Ê I would get hang > overs even when I hardly drank.Ê Well, I feel fine this morning, even > though I drank a little more than usual.Ê I was expecting to feel > yucky.Ê I don't know if it's the Get Go or what.Ê I know it's probably > impossible for me to be feeling any different after only 3 days of > taking them, but it's true. The get go n product is a B combination product- And yes B is utilized immediately in the system. Excess is excreted. So It would make since that your body was able to use these to prevent your usual problem with alcohol. Alcohol also depletes your body of B vitamins, as I remember. I rarely drink but have also always had the same problem with alcohol. I always joked I was a cheap date. One drink and I was tipsy. Two drinks was my limit and the few times I tried 3 drinks I didn't feel well at all. Maybe our shared response comes from the fact that we have never tolerated taking B sups??? I wonder if there is a correlation with other people here. > > I'll keep you posted with more results.Ê So far I am loving them!!! Everyone who tries them does!! Robynn

Subject: why is whole juice better From: Elizabeth To: All Date Posted: Sat, May 02, 1998 at 19:36:55 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I'm writing for information on the Vitamix. Why is vitamix a better option than a traditional juicer? I have a great mixer and blender so i'm not interested in those functions. i'm just interested in why it is prefferable to have whole juice as opposed to juice without the pulp. Also what kinds of juice recipes can be done in the vitamix? do you really juice carrots, for instance? do you need to add water? Thanks for answering.

Subject: Re: Quoting Prevention mag May'98 From: robynn To: Elizabeth Date Posted: Mon, May 04, 1998 at 02:53:19 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: May '98 Prevention Mag, page 93 Pycnogenol fights cancer and the diseases of aging Pycongenol appears to be a potent antioxidant-as are vitamins C and E- that protects blood vessels and may prevent cancer Polphenolic compounds come from a wide variety of plants. The most widely reconized are the bioflavonoids, the heart healthy, cancer-fighting compounds found in red wine, tea, onions, AND THE PULP of citrus fruits, and grapes.

Subject: Whole juice is better because... From: Kathy To: Elizabeth Date Posted: Sun, May 03, 1998 at 08:20:12 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: it is made out of the whole fruit...the pulp is very important for you...fiber!...also have you ever used a juice extractor?...it takes a LOT of fruit to make a glass of juice...so this is less expensive...this is meal juice...you have a glass of whole juice...and it's a meal...it's not just a glass of juice...extracted juice is also a real burst of sugar, because that's what it is...I suppose if you had a digestive system upset...extracted juice may be better until you recovered...but it only makes sense that the juice with the pulp is far superior...and it's wonderful too...tastes like a smoothie...if it's a hot day and you just want something for thirst then extracted juice might be what you want...but if you like to start your day off with a good breakfast...a glass of whole fruit juice is the way to go...as far a carrots go...you do need to add water or some other kind of juice/fruit with it as the VitaMix purees the carrots...kind of like baby food...it's not ajuice extractor...but carrots with some oranges and pineapple is wonderful...I still have a juice extractor, it's in the cupboard...just in case I ever want to make extracted juice...have you ever cleaned a juice extractor?...it's a mess! there is a bowl of pulp that you have to throw out...and if it's carrots...it stains everthing...then the whole thing has to be taken apart and cleaned...and there is a little screen that has to be cleaned with a toothbrush...it's an ordeal! the VitaMix is simple!...just one container...rinse out with a little warm, soapy water...quick! no mess!...right now, I have a elderly neighbor, who lives alone, and doesn't really eat very well, she's now having teeth problems, probably going to take a while to get the problem fixed, anyway I try to bring her a big glass of whole juice, that I mix with a little 'green' protein powder...she loves it!...and I know that she's getting some good 'food' into her system...if I didn't do this, she would only have apple and orange juice from a bottle and coke...I feel good knowing I can do this for her...and it doesn't cost much or take much of my time...the VitaMix also has a second container for grinding grains...I can buy whole grain wheat for 69 cents a pound...and grind it in the VitaMix...add the rest of the ingredients...and in 5 min. I have fresh ingredients for bread, ready to rise, and bake...with no mess to clean up...one container, and measuring cup and a spatula, that's it!...no flour all over the place...5 min of my time! It took me a long time to decide to make the investment, I am so happy I did...we use this machine several times a day...everyday! You can get a video from the company, or ask Robynn if she can get you one...it's very informative...I received a video about 6 mos before I purchased, I did take a long time to decide to get one... also are you the Elisabeth from VegSource?

Subject: Re: Whole juice is better because... From: JAY To: Kathy Date Posted: Sun, May 03, 1998 at 19:44:25 (PDT) Email Address: Jwins58448@aol.com Message: I have owned a vitamix since 1987. Recently, I purchased a TNC and love it. Ocassionally I will browse the book stores and read the juicing books to get some ideas. Frankly, I do not like them because many of them address the vitamix as a glorified blender. They state that extracted juice is better because it gets to blood stream quicker and gives you that extra added boost of energy. In reality, most juice that is extacted is in a concentrated form that God did not intend for you to recieve that way because of it high concentrated sugar content. On the other hand, total juice is not as concentrated and it is in a more natural state for the body to receive. Also, these authors claim that the pulp is difficult for the body to digest and too much pulp is not good for you. Agreed, but how many of us eat the body's daily required amount of pulp? Don't forget that the pulp is reduced to a smaller size in the Vitamix than we normally chew when eating our food; therefore, it is more easier for the body to digest. Finally, it is well known that Total Juice has every nutrient known and unknown God intended for the body to recieve. Basically, we must use simple common since when comparing Total Juice to Extracted Juice.

Subject: Losing Weight From: Jan To: All Date Posted: Sat, May 02, 1998 at 16:14:22 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Hi everyone, I have been taking these vitamins for just under a month now. I want to tell anyone who might be wondering if they are for you. What my experience has been. My husband tells me that my skin is incredibly softer now. My daughter even has started rubbing cheeks with me. I asked her why she kept doing that and she told me because my face is so soft now. I have lost 8 lbs. I am getting really good sleep now. I am waking easily in the morning. I have more energy throughout the whole day. I don't hit the 4:00 slump now, that time when I just want to lay down and die. My energy throughout the day is more even rather than my usual birsts of energy. I really do feel better than I ever remember feeling. It is hard to explain. I have never been a high energy person and I have always been the one to slump. Now I am doing stuff and getting more accomplished both in my personal life and in my work related life. My boss has noticed that I am more alert. He even asked me how much it would cost to feed to all of the employees. He jokes about putting the vitamins in the water cooler. He is kidding of course- but there is truth in his statement because he can see that he is getting a lot more out of me than he was ever before. I didn't have it in me to give before. I think that my boss' wife is interested in trying the product. She has commented on my healthy glow. She asked to see any literature that I had on the company- I took her the tape that came packed with my vitamins. I will tell her about your offer of a sample. I probably should tell what vitamins have been using. I bought the basic kit which has 4 diferent products.

Subject: Cleaning Tips From: K Harris To: All Date Posted: Fri, May 01, 1998 at 17:53:32 (PDT) Email Address: k_harris@primenet.com Message: Just got the machine. I've barely used it yet.  I did discover one thing though-- when cleaning the containers with hot soapy water, it's best to have the top on. Otherwise you get to mop the kitchen floor. I've never seen a full gallon of soapy water go vertical before.

Subject: HA HA HA HA!!!!!... From: Pandora To: K Harris Date Posted: Sun, May 03, 1998 at 19:58:39 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: That really made me laugh. You must have been soaked. I am assuming that you probably didn't find it as amusing as we are finding it.

Subject: That was too... From: Kathy To: K Harris Date Posted: Fri, May 01, 1998 at 18:19:13 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: FUNNY!

Subject: Used Vita-Mix? From: Ron To: All Date Posted: Fri, May 01, 1998 at 15:31:51 (PDT) Email Address: rvanrossum@teltech.com Message: If you know of a used Vita-Mix at a good price, I might be interested. I'd welcome your reply. Thank you! Ron

Subject: Do you care how old it is? From: Kathy To: Ron Date Posted: Fri, May 01, 1998 at 18:25:48 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I just had someone doing some work at my house...he saw me making smoothies this morning...told me he has an old machine...anyway I made him a smoothie...then I showed him how I make bread from whole grain...give him a loaf of bread...and the address to this site in that he was interested in getting a new machine...maybe Robynn knows about the older machines...and maybe he will show up on this board...if he does...his name is Dean...he may want to sell his older machine to purchase a new one...I told him mine was a reconditioned machine and I think that's what he was interested in...anyway if he likes the bread he may show up here....Good Luck!

Subject: Re: Do you care how old it is? From: Ron To: Kathy Date Posted: Wed, May 06, 1998 at 11:14:08 (PDT) Email Address: rvanrossum@teltech.com Message: Kathy, Thanks for your reply. I hadn't thought about the age. What can the Vita mix do that a blender can't, when making smoothies? Thanks, Ron

Subject: Re:Keep checking... From: Robynn To: Ron Date Posted: Fri, May 01, 1998 at 16:27:15 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: HI RON, Don't give up this site is not registered with search engines yet. I am learning as I go here. For the most part most people who frequent this board have the newest machines or just purchased. I don't mind if people want to sell/buy used vita mixers here. If you can't afford to buy new and they need to sell to buy new it all works out. Glad if I can help. I just cannot accept responsibility for any private deals that anyone makes out there. Like I said keep an eye out and feel free to post occasionally to remind people that you are looking. Once I get hooked up to search engines there will be more likely chances of finding what you are looking for. Robynn

Subject: Re: Re:Keep checking... From: Ron To: Robynn Date Posted: Wed, May 06, 1998 at 11:15:26 (PDT) Email Address: rvanrossum@teltech.com Message: Robynn, Thanks for your reply. Do you work for Vita-Mix? Ron

Subject: loudness From: robynn To: All Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 30, 1998 at 18:35:33 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: At our house we quickly made a rule. Whenever someone else is in the kitchen with you and you are about to flip on the Vita Mix- First warn the others in the kitchen. Come to think of it- we always warn people, 'I am about to turn on the vacume'- so they can leave the room if they want to or turn up the TV. But the Vita Mix is a shock to the system when you are right there next to it and someone else turns it on. You have to prepare yourself so that you don't jump through the ceiling. It isn't too bad if you know it's coming. The jets flying low overhead in a storm pattern are louder. Does that help?

Subject: It's not that loud... From: Kathy To: robynn Date Posted: Fri, May 01, 1998 at 18:29:52 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: It's only for a very short time, unless you are making something hot...I don't turn it on if someone is on the phone in the kitchen...unless it's my daughters just 'chatting' then I tell them I'm turning it on...if it's a smoothie or blended drink it's only for a minute...I have had no problem with the noise...

Subject: My Kids Say It's Loud!! From: Jody To: Robynn Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 30, 1998 at 17:50:20 (PDT) Email Address: jjean@mdn.net Message: Robynn, YES, the VitaMix is noisy. Maybe just a little more noisy than a vacuum; but you don't see people going out and buying brooms/dust pans because the vacuum is a little loud! Only 3 wks. into VitaMix ownership and don't think I could do without it ... LOVE TO SEE the fruits get chopped it into good tasting juice. This is a for instance, I was in the kitchen the other night and my 16 yr. old son came running down from his upstairs bedroom, asking what the smoothie was tonight, I asked him how he knew I was making one ... his reply, I could hear it upstairs (probably had the TV on also). So, it is loud, but it is WONDERFUL (but your vacuum's loud too, and that's not nearly as much fun to use!!) See ya, Jody

Subject: Hey...you got the codes... From: Kathy To: Jody Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 30, 1998 at 19:58:34 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: CONGRATULATIONS! It's fun...isn't it?

Subject: Yes, Kathy I finally can do the fun stuff! From: Jody To: Kathy Date Posted: Fri, May 01, 1998 at 17:25:59 (PDT) Email Address: jjean@mdn.net Message: I could not figure out the instructions you and Pandora were giving to me; so I finally checked out the site on Netscape Navigator and then in the 'quoted message' box all the codes showed up. But on Microsoft Explorer they do not show, but I can use them. So now when I can remember a code, I can use it. Also ... tried your recipe for Chocolate Pudding ... It Was Great!!. Thanks for that recipe. It was the first time I ever bought tofu ... didnt even know what it was before. Bye for now! Jody

Subject: Glad you liked the pudding... From: Kathy To: Jody Date Posted: Fri, May 01, 1998 at 18:15:38 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: the thing to remember about tofu is that is really doesn't have a taste...it's kinda like flour...flour by itself would taste very bland, kinda yucky...but when you mix it with stuff you get bread, cakes, cookies...all the good things...tofu can be eaten by itself...but why?....when you mix it with things...it takes on the taste of whatever you're doing with it...try dropping some tofu into your smoothies...you add protein to your shakes...it will make it a little creamier (I wouldn't use bananas if I added tofu, as they both will do the same thing) try tofu with strawberries...it's really good! tofu also comes in different styles, soft, firm, silken...these are all the same thing but with different amounts of water in them...for a smoothie it really doesn't matter what kind you use...for the pudding I use firm, especially if I make a pie...have you tried that! double the pudding and pour into a graham cracker crust, top with nondairy topping, or whipped cream if you want...everyone loves this....sometimes I layer bananas in it...chocolate banana cream pie! you can also use tofu to replace eggs in baking...marinate it and add it to stir fries...my daughter loves scrambled tofu...I like it, but I never order it out because I can't eat a whole order of it...just like pancakes...I like them, but after about 4 bites, I've had enough... Glad You Tried It!

Subject: Where do you order scramble tofu??... From: Pandora To: Kathy Date Posted: Sun, May 03, 1998 at 19:53:59 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I have never been to a restaurant that had any tofu dishes. Oh, one restaurant and that's it. I love tofu too. You can do so much with it. You can make Tofu 'Creams' that you can serve in place of whipped creams. I just made a spice cake yesterday that used tofu and soymilk and Tofu Honey Cream to serve on top. It sure went fast.

Subject: Follow Your Heart... From: Kathy To: Pandora Date Posted: Sun, May 03, 1998 at 23:14:05 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: it's in Canoga Park...it's a great, little funky vegetarian market/restaurant... you feel like you're back in the '60's...the restaurant does a great business, sat next to Justine Bateman once, Mike Farrell was also eating there...there is also one in Santa Barbara, however, last time I was there they chnaged the restaurant to more of a Deli/Take Out type place...if you are ever in the San Fernando Valley give it a try...Where are you at?...for some reason I think it's fairly close...Hey...we'll even meet you there...that's where we always go for breakfast

Subject: Re: Follow Your Heart... From: Pandora To: Kathy Date Posted: Mon, May 04, 1998 at 09:29:08 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Oooooh, I'd love to try it. I don't think I've ever been to Canoga Park before. Guess I'll have to drag my fiance out there. I just called information and got the addresse. I'm in the San Gabriel Valley. Glendora. It's about 35 minutes away from Downtown. On a super clear day we can see the outline of L.A. from atop a good hill.

Subject: It's Funky! From: Kathy To: Pandora Date Posted: Mon, May 04, 1998 at 10:38:59 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Just don't want you to make the trip and be let down...we think it has alot of Charm though...like I said, you'll think you stepped back in time...Do you know who Gypsy Boots is? He's there all the time in his Bootsmobile...the food is great! The people are great! and we like the 'atmosphere'...let us know when you plan on making the trip...we're about 15 min from it...

Subject: Re: It's Funky! From: Pandora To: Kathy Date Posted: Tues, May 05, 1998 at 08:33:59 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: No, who is Gypsy Boots? Is there anything else of interest down that way? Maybe we can just hit the museum in L.A. while we are out there. I'll let you know when we go.

Subject: Gypsy Boots... From: Kathy To: Pandora Date Posted: Tues, May 05, 1998 at 10:17:41 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: is a treat...I think he's 84...he drives the Bootsmobile, it's a van with writing all over it, I actually read a book years ago, called The Gypsey In Me ( I think that's the name) anyway it's his book...I didn't know who he was before that...he's like an 84 yr old hippie, long hair, beads, flowered shirts, he's a real supporter for Kyolic Garlic...that's painted on his van...his book had a lot of pictures of him with athletes, football players especially, I guess he can still pass a mean football...he was also pictued with alot of celebrities, he's just a nut...up the coast a ways north, is a Banana Farm, I stopped there a few times on my way back from Santa Barbara, Seaside Banana's (I think) anyway, he has his Birthday Party there, I believe Follow Your Heart passes out the flyers for this...I saw him a few weeks ago, and he was wearing shorts, I honestly could not believe how strong his legs looked, nothing like an person 84...anyway, He's probably one of the reasons vegetarians are called Granolas!

Subject: Rice Milk From: Beth To: All Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 30, 1998 at 15:59:51 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I just got my Vita-Mix 2 days ago and I've already used it a dozen times! I got mine because I have so many food allergies and now I can make my own nut milks and grind rice and bean flours. Does anybody know of a good recipe to make rice milk?

Subject: Re: Rice Milk From: Pandora To: Beth Date Posted: Fri, May 01, 1998 at 10:05:35 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Here is a copy of a recipe for it. I just strain it through a mesh strainer. Rice Milk

Subject: OK Pandora...this is the next thing I need to learn From: Kathy To: Pandora Date Posted: Fri, May 01, 1998 at 18:31:54 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: and that's how to include a link...I just need to find someplace where I can put one...I can do it!

Subject: Just to let you know... From: Pandora To: Kathy Date Posted: Sun, May 03, 1998 at 19:46:01 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: In the quoted message box, it is coming out different than what you actually have to type. You must enclose the addresse in quotation marks, not the apostrophe mark that it is showing. I don't know why it is coming up different.

Subject: Re: Rice Milk From: Robynn To: Pandora Date Posted: Fri, May 01, 1998 at 16:19:00 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Do you make this with brown rice? Doesn't this waste a lot of the rice? the left over sediment. Is there something healthy you can do with that?

Subject: Yes, I used brown rice... From: Pandora To: Robynn Date Posted: Sun, May 03, 1998 at 19:33:35 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I don't even buy white rice. The first time I made it there wasn't much sediment to strain. I didn't bother even straining it the next time. I guess if someone had a lot of sediment, maybe they could throw it in with their oatmeal?

Subject: Re: VegSourse Link you'll love it! From: robynn To: Beth Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 30, 1998 at 18:42:18 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Have you been to VegSource? They have vegitarian recipes for everything- Rice milk is just one of the thousands. http://www.vegsource.com/wwwboard/recipes/wwwboard.html Bookmark they are fun to check out on a regular basis. This will take you to 'Ask Debra' post your question they will either post the recipe or tell you where to get it from the recipe archive. There is an informal gardening board and ask the doctor board plus many others. It is vegetarian but there is a lot there even if you aren't vegitarian.

Subject: Grinding Grains on SNC From: Henri Throop To: All Date Posted: Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 19:38:02 (PDT) Email Address: throop@colorado.edu Message: I'm planning on getting a Vita-Mix, primarily to make smoothies and juice with. I'm mildly interested in grinding grain, but it's not really a high priority. Have any of you used the SNC (the one without the grinding container) to grind in? What's the difference between the two -- blades, container design? My guess would be that the liquid container would still grind things (hey, my current blender does), but might not do it as quickly or with as fine a result. Has anyone tried this out? Or is there some other reason to get the second container? Thanks, -Henri

Subject: There is a difference... From: Kathy To: Henri Throop Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 30, 1998 at 07:53:36 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: like the other post stated...the blades are different...I never tried grinding grain in the wet container...but I do grind wheat...I make bread...and let me tell you it is so easy and so good...and very inexpensive...I buy whole grain wheat at Whole Foods for 69 cents a pound...I seriously can have bread dough ready in 5 min. with absolutely no mess...I've got it down...1 3/4 cups grain...grind for 90 sec...while I'm doing that I take out the salt, honey, yeast and oil...add 1 1/4 cups water, pkg of yeast, tbl honey and oil...pulse 1 or 2 sec...let this sit while I put the honey, salt and oil away...spray a pan with Pam...do the 5 pulses 1 sec each 5 or 6 times...put in the pan...stick it in a warm place to rise...this takes about 20 min...this is when I get ready for the day...stick in preheated 350 oven for 30 min and it's done...I don't know if this sounds as easy as it is...but it's wonderful bread! well worth it! did I mention the clean up? Just fill the container about 1/2 way with warm water, add 1 drop of soap, whirl...rinse out...I then only have to wash a measuring cup and a spatula...EASY!

Subject: Re: There is a difference... From: julie To: Kathy Date Posted: Fri, May 08, 1998 at 17:07:23 (PDT) Email Address: chthorp@boone.net Message: Do you make it ALL in the wet container--is that where you grind your wheat?

Subject: Re: Grinding Grains on SNC From: Susan Davidson To: Henri Throop Date Posted: Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 23:19:47 (PDT) Email Address: 70253.2221@compuserve.com Message: Henri - Hi! There IS a difference between the two containers. The difference is in the blades. The blades are shaped differently as well as positioned at different angles. I do grind flours -- rice, oat, and corn. I am also hoping to grind potatoe flour in the future. I do not grind wheat, due to allergies. I'm not sure how the wet container will handle the grains. I've never tried since I do have both containers. Susan

Subject: Interested in vitamin samples?? From: Robynn To: All Date Posted: Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 18:44:04 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: I am just wondering if there is interest in getting samples. There is a huge amount of cost involved in sending out samples of vitamins via the mail. Before I make an investment in the necessarry vials etcetra. I am curious how many people might be interested in getting the samples. If you could get a 3 day sample for $15.00 who would be interested? That would allow you to taste the vitamins and you would know that they weren't going to upset your stomach before jumping in and buying them. Some people even feel the results in as few days.The $15.00 would cover my mailing and packaging costs. Then if you decide to purchase the nutritional energy kit (which includes all of the basic vitamins and minerals) the kit I recommend for everyone to begin with, I would apply $5.00 to the first order. Does this sound interesting to anyone. I need feedback. Thanks

Subject: Re: Interested in vitamin samples?? From: Pandora To: Robynn Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 30, 1998 at 09:41:05 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I think if this had been available to me before I ordered I would have been interested.

Subject: Re: Padora I will send you a sample From: Robynn To: Pandora Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 30, 1998 at 11:11:09 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: I'll send you a sample of the Aloe Vera product, Pandora, You will already have the vitamins and the Get Go N product. Remember the products are very concentrated so you will need to add plenty of water to taste- Other wise the product will be toooo sweet. A touch of apple cider vinegar (1/4 tsp) can be added and a good squirt of fresh lemon juice (add as much lemon and vinegar to taste good to you) along with the vitamins and the Get Go N product and it will taste delicious like mulled apple cider. You can add, (NOT BOILING) hot water for a soothing hot mulled apple cider- Great in the morning that way. Just don't microwave the vitamins- that will ruin them. I sugest starting the Get Go N with a half to a quarter serving if you have ever been sensitive to taking B vitamins. Then work up to a full dose. A quarter dose in the morning then you can have a quarter dose before lunch- there is no reason you can't space it out. My parents are splitting the doses that way. Hot drink before breakfast another before lunch- They like a hot drink at 4:00 in the afternoon. Another suggestion, Many people like to stir the vitamins and Get Go N into a cup of green tea. Just add the vitamins after it has cooled a bit. Don't want to cook the vitamins and diminish the good benefits. One more idea- people make the vitamins up in those sport water bottles and take them to work to have before lunch or for the miday slump or just to sip at their desks during the day. My Personal choice, I never use clorinated tap water to mix with my vitamins unless I have boiled it first for a hot drink. (letting it cool a little before using) This is important though. It is okay to take the vitamins with food but you won't get as good of results as if you take them on an empty stomach. They have to compete with all the other digestion process' if taken with food. Some people need to take them with a little toast or fruit and that is OKAY- But the B vitamins The Get Go N should not be mixed with meat, eggs, or cheese proteins. The enzymes will cancel each other out and you won't get the benefits from your vitamins- It won't hurt you but you will be wasting your money. So it is best to remember take the vitamins 15 minutes or so before eating. Or a few hours after eating meats and animal products.-(Which I don't suppose you do at all being vegitarian)

Subject: received the following question From: robynn To: All Date Posted: Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 15:26:35 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Thanks for the quote! Is the machine very noisy? I can't make a lot of noise where I live. I an email answer to this customer- but I would love for the other VM owners here to address this issue. Yes- be honest. Please make your own comparisons for him. So that he can make a good solid decision about this purchase. There are pros and cons to every purchase we make and this is a very valid concern.

Subject: Umm, yeah, it's noisy... From: Pandora To: robynn Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 30, 1998 at 09:37:36 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: It is definitely loud. I lived in an apartment and my room mate claimed it didn't bother her in the mornings. But now I am at home and my parents cannot hear the tv at all while it is on. You have to raise your voice to be heard above it.

Subject: Vita Mix shipments From: robynn To: All Date Posted: Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 15:20:21 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: Update for April May '98 Vita Mix shipments All new and refurbished orders have atleast a one week wait before being shipped. Vita Mix is swamped with their busy season currently. All refurbished orders are backordered. They are shipping according to first in line on the waiting list. This affected many of my customers last month. They did all eventually receive their machines. I do have several customers that are waiting for refurbished machines again. Please hang in there you will receive your machine. In case it helps, keep in mind, that you are getting a great discount for your trouble. I am sorry that you have to wait though. I will keep you informed. Robynn Bryar Brighter Ideas and Services

Subject: Re: Vita Mix shipments From: Dr.Z To: robynn Date Posted: Fri, May 01, 1998 at 07:03:24 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Just a note of support to all those on the waitnig list I ordered two machines from robynn a couple months ago and went throught the same thing but hang in there, it is well worth the wait and trust me robynn will take very good care of you as she did me. She is always on top of the situation

Subject: Re: Vita Mix shipments From: robynn To: Dr.Z Date Posted: Fri, May 01, 1998 at 08:12:50 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Hey Dr. Z. Great to hear from you. I'm glad you like your machine(s)

Subject: Re:Larger type/italics From: Jody To: Pandora Date Posted: Tues, Apr 28, 1998 at 16:44:40 (PDT) Email Address: jjean@mdn.net Message: Pandora, Thanks for the specific set of instructions. I was using Microsoft Explorer; and I went to my Netscape and now I have the codes. Plus it is much easier to type these messages on Netscape ... can see more than 2-3 words at a time. The reason I always use the Microsoft is that the type for the pages is about 2 sizes larger than this darn Netscape. I also have frames on Netscape, but not with Microsoft. I should probably upgrade that, but I really don't know how, and don't know if it costs anything. so thanks so much for the help!! Will try more later, will have to write the codes down ... the kids used all the ink out of my printer in Dec. and I still need to replace it. I can always think of better ways to spend about $40. But I do miss the printer! Thanks again, Jody

Subject: Yea!!... From: Pandora To: Jody Date Posted: Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 00:36:55 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I see you got the codes to work. I knew you'd get it if I got a professional explanation for you. I prefer my Netscape browser over the Microsoft. Have fun with the codes.

Subject: Old manuals From: lulu To: All Date Posted: Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 23:40:33 (PDT) Email Address: lulugirl@juno.com Message: We had a fire 3 months ago, about a week after I started to use use my new, well really this old machine was in my parents kitchen gathering dust and they gave it to us model# 3600 Plus. The VMixer survived, but the books and manuals were toasted. Could you help us locate a low cost source to replace them, Please? Thanks

Subject: Re: Old manuals From: robynn To: lulu Date Posted: Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 17:48:01 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: I can get you the manuals for about $25.00 You can try calling the company and see what price they charge for the manuals. The number for Vita Mix is 800-848-2649 just tell them what you want. Email me if you want me to get it for you.

Subject: Re: Old manuals From: lulu To: robynn Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 30, 1998 at 13:37:23 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Thanks for the info. I will give them a call.

Subject: vitamins incredible dreams From: Jan To: All Date Posted: Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 22:55:49 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Robynn, I have just started adding the bio night to my calcium magnesium bedtime vitamin drink. I am amazed at the incredible dreams I have been having. I am sleeping not necessarily deeper because I do wake up but I go right back to sleep easier. The amazing thing is how in the morning I come alive almost with a jolt after sleeping with the bio night in my drink. I have never been a morning person- but now I wake up rested and alert. Before the alarm clock. I am the kind of person that normally hits the snooze button 4 times before I drag myself out of bed. Then I need a shower to function at all. I can think in the morning now, even without a shower. I can move and act. Usually I am just zombie like until 11:00AM Now I can function at 7:00AM I got up and did all my bills which I had been avoiding for weeks this morning. Bills are stressful and numbers are not my friends. I would never in my life have been able to think clearly enough in the morning to pay my bills. It has to be the vitamins - The Bio Night seems to be clearing my head of a lifetime of fuzziness. I am sold these vitamins are making a huge difference in my life.

Subject: Question of the Week From: Jody To: Robynn/All Date Posted: Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 17:36:23 (PDT) Email Address: jjean@mdn.net Message: In answer to your 'Question of the Week' (not a subject I like to talk about, let alone write about!!) But anyway here goes! Having only had my VitaMix for 2 1/2 wks. now, I am hardly an expert, but I know I did not get enough fiber in my diet. I was a junk/snack food junk and a chocaholic to boot!! Since I've had my VitaMix I shop regularly at the fruit market and have bought more fruit in the past 2 1/2 wks. than I have bought in years. And I have to say again, I am SO GLAD I bought a VitaMix instead of a juicer. Anyway, I did have 'the runs' the first few days when I began having 2 fruit smoothies a day. Fortunately for me it was in the evening. After a few days I did not have that problem any more. And I seem to have more energy than before. I figure with all the oranges I am using in the VitaMix I am saving money by not having to take Vitamin C supplements ... there has to be more absorbale Vitamin C in the fresh-squeezed juice than in a Vitamin tablet. So long for now, Jody

Subject: Larger Type/Italics/Help! From: Jody To: Pandora Date Posted: Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 17:22:58 (PDT) Email Address: jjean@mdn.net Message: Pandora, I have read your messages and Kathy's on using the larger size type and different fonts ... am still not able to do it! (Even my kids can't figure it out, but then again, they sometimes get annoyed with me and my non-knowledge of this computer!!) I do know about type sizes and fonts as I work at a newspaper and use them there all the time. However, when I go to the 'quoted message' box, there is no codes in that box, the only thing there is EXACTLY what you have typed in the message. Nothing else at all! So, is my computer missing something. The way I interpret your directions are, that the codes will be typed in in brackets probably before the words I want to emphasize? But on my computer, in that box, there are NO CODES. Please elaborate!! Thanks, Jody

Subject: Oh, that's weird... From: Pandora To: Jody Date Posted: Tues, Apr 28, 1998 at 10:14:31 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Okay. Yes, the 'tag' or code must be typed in right before the words you want to change. If I want to type my name Pandora in bold, I will type the 'lesser than' bracket (the symbol that is above the comma)and then I will type the letter b in lower case and then type the 'greater than' symbol (above the period). It should look like < > but with a lower case b inside it (no spaces or anything else) and then right after that, I typed my name. Everything after that should be bold until I stop it by typing < > with /b inside it. The forward slash means to cancel it. See if this works for you. I am going to look for a book or something that will have a description. Maybe I can find better directions for you. What kind of computer do have? And what browser?

Subject: Got something for ya... From: Pandora To: Pandora Date Posted: Tues, Apr 28, 1998 at 10:59:52 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Okay, I got something for you! I hope this link works! Click Here For HTML Secrets

Subject: Re: Got something for ya... From: RB To: Pandora Date Posted: Tues, Apr 28, 1998 at 12:12:15 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: This is handy stuff so I just copied it for everyone from that link (hope I am not breaking any rules) The links elsewhere may not work. But the how will work for anyone interested. Here goes --- - Some Rudimentary HTML Codes For those who want to put bold, italic, underlining or other features into your posts, here are some HTML tags you can use to produce them. You put the 'tag' used to insert a code inside a bracket <>. The <> and anything you put between them will not show up in your message You need to put the code at the start of the text you want affected, and then at the end of the text with a / in front of it. The / will turn off the effect. Here are examples: Bold: bold Italic: italic Underline: underline Blink: blink size 4 text size 5 text size 6 text red text blue text You can combine any HTML tags together, like this. How to make a link to a location or to your e-mail address: VegSource headveg@vegsource.com Back to VegSource

Subject: Robynn From: Mariam To: All Date Posted: Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 17:07:42 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Thanks for the Tofu/Soy booklet. It is great. I'm always looking for ways to incorporate tofu in shakes and this booklet has lots of wonderful ideas. For others like me, there is a recipe for prizewining Lasagne in the vegsource recipe board. I havn't tried it yet but it sure sounds yummy. vegsource www.vegsource.com/wwwboard/recipes/wwwboard.html

Subject: Topic of the Week... From: Kathy To: All Date Posted: Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 11:23:28 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: My family has had no problems at all...We all know we are supposed to have fiber...and 5 servings of fruits and vegetables a day...how many people actually do that...if you are on the SAD...that's Standard American Diet...with all the fat and processed foods...you are probably not getting enough fiber...and fruits and vegetables...I am a vegetarian...and there were days when I didn't...the VitaMix is an easy, delicious way of doing that...which is why I am going to make my morning smoothie right now

Subject: Question of the week... From: Pandora To: All Date Posted: Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 09:35:13 (PDT) Email Address: silva123@earthlink.net Message: I never had any discomfort at all. But I already had a lot of fiber in my diet to begin with so maybe that had a lot to do with it. But the discomfort should only last a while until you get used to it. And it's so much healthier to have the fiber. I think you are supposed to have at least 25 grams of fiber a day.

Subject: Demo Recipes From: smeister2@msn.com To: All Date Posted: Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 18:31:59 (PDT) Email Address: smeister2@msn.com Message: These recipes were wriiten by Norm Thompson. I hope you all enjoy them as much as I do. Sincerely, Scott Meister smeister2@msn.com Total Juice 1/4c Red seedless grapes 1/2 Macintosh apple w/core 1 Naval orange (no rind) 1' Sliced pineapple 1/2 Banana no peel 2Tbsp Honey 2c Ice Instructions: put all ingredients in Vita-Mix container. Run on high speed for 2 minutes. Berry Ice Cream 1/4c Berry juice concentrate 1/2 Banana 1/4c Skim milk powder 2Tbsp Honey 3c Ice Instructions: put all ingredients into TNC. Run on high speed. Use tamper to help circulate ingredients. Low Fat Oreo Cookie Ice Cream 3/4c Fat free non dairy creamer 1/2c Sugar 1/4c Skim milk powder 4Tbsp Smuckers fat free chocalate syrup 4Tbsp Smuckers fat free caramel syrup 2-3c Ice Instructions: put creamer and sugar into container and run on variable speed #6 for 30 seconds. Add remaining ingredients except cookies and run on high speed til smooth. Add cookies and run on variable speed #2 and using tamper run for 5-7 seconds. Taco Soup 1 celery stalk 1 roma tomato 1 carrot 1 onion scallion 1 chicken bouillon cube (Knorr) 1/3pkg taco seasoning mix 2 1/2c hot water seasoned pepper to taste 2c taco chips 1/4c Grated mozzerella cheese Instructions: Put all ingredients in TNC container except for chips and cheese. Run for 2-3 minutes on high speed. Turn to variable speed #0 and add chips and cheese and run for 2-3 seconds. Cream of Chicken Soup 1-2 celery stalks 1/8 white onion 2 chicken bouillon cubes 1/4c skim milk powder 1/3c instant mashed potato flakes 2 1/4c hot water cooked chicken optional Instructions: put all ingredients into container. Run on high speed for 3 minutes. Add chicken on variable speed #3. Vegetable Broccoli Cheese Soup 1 roma tomato 1 celery stalk 1 carrot 1 garlic clove 2 chicken bouillon cube (Knorr) 2-4oz old chedder cheese 2c hot water 5 broccoli pieces (add once soup is hot) Instructions: Run on high speed for 3 minutes. On variable speed and broccoli. These recipes were wriiten by Norm Thompson. I hope you all enjoy them as much as I do. Sincerely, Scott Meister smeister2@msn.com

Subject: Re: A little background about Demo Recipes From: Robynn To: smeister2@msn.com Date Posted: Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 23:43:17 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Thanks Scott these are great recipes, I am sure that everyone will be thrilled to get them. Scott contacted me with these recipes and I asked him to please come post them. Scott had purchased his Vita Mix from Norm Thompson and after Scott started playing around with His Vita Mix- He went back to find out what some of Norm's secrets were. Norm passed on his own recipes that he had developed for Sales Demonstrations. Thank you Norm Thompson too!!

Subject: Re: A little background about Demo Recipes From: Jay To: Robynn Date Posted: Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 13:28:12 (PDT) Email Address: Jwins58448@aol.com Message: Thanks Scott these are great recipes, I am sure that everyone will be thrilled to get them. Scott contacted me with these recipes and I asked him to please come post them. Scott had purchased his Vita Mix from Norm Thompson and after Scott started playing around with His Vita Mix- He went back to find out what some of Norm's secrets were. Norm passed on his own recipes that he had developed for Sales Demonstrations. Thank you Norm Thompson too!! --- Thanks for the recipes.

Subject: Winging it on Fruit Smoothie Recipe From: Jody To: Pandora/All Date Posted: Fri, Apr 24, 1998 at 19:30:13 (PDT) Email Address: jjean@mdn.net Message: Pandora, Thanks for the recipe for the smoothie using pears .. I will probably try it this weekend, with the exception of the watermelon (I really don't like them and they are not available in Michigan in April). Another question ... you sound like you make up your own fruit drink recipes ... is there a 'rule of thumb' that you use to ensure good taste? Like maybe what fruits go good together and how many to use? Would appreciate any suggestions on this ... I'm really not very handy in the kitchen, but I sure love my VitaMix. Make 2 fruit drinks daily, and after 2 wks. find I have more energy than I've had in a long time. Also was big time into junk/snack foods ... I've bought and eaten more fruit in the past 2 wks. than I have in years. And am enjoying every bit of it!! Also, like Kathy, I was wondering how you get the larger/italic type when you want for your messages. I read your reply to her, but can't seem to figure it out (nor can my 16 yr. old son). Can not find anyplace on the 'Post a New Message' page where it gives size and font changes ... I am assuming we all have the same web page, but I am not very good with this home computer, either. Thanks in advance for your help. Jody

Subject: Yeah, I make up my own recipes... From: Pandora To: Jody Date Posted: Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 10:26:30 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I use whatever fruits I have on hand. You just have to experiment on the quantity of fruit. I don't like my shakes too thick so I have learned what amount of fruit to use to get the consistency I like. I think all fruits go together with the exception of pineapple. And that is probably just a personal preference. Bananas and apples I have to have in every shake or it's just not a shake to me. Regarding the size of the font: It is kind of hard to explain the html codes, but like Kathy said, look at the Quoted Message box down below this box. It is right above the Your Reply box. If you scroll through it, it shows all the html tags I used to make these fonts bigger and italicized. You must type to make it bigger. What ever is in the <> brackets is a code and will not show on the posted message (or web page). Let us know if you still don't understand. It's hard to explain.

Subject: Re: tips and recipe From: robynn To: Pandora Date Posted: Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 23:34:46 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: And pineapple is one of my favorites. I think that it makes a drink extra special. I also love to jaz a drink up with a few cranberries. And any time a drink needs added sugar- I usually add cherries instead. Page 122 in the spiral bound book that came with your Vita Mix has a section on developing your own juice recipes. It is a must read for everyone new to vita mixing. Strawberries go along way be careful not to overpower a mixed drink with them. Balance your sweet, tart, and tangy flavors. Some fruit flavors go a long ways and you only need a little to effect the whole container. Some of this is trial and error but it helps to read the question and answer section beginning on page 122 through 125 about mixing and blending flavors. This section will save you from most flops. The following is a quote from that section: 'Uh, whats what? If you have equal amounts of all ingredients, flavors tend to neutralize, resulting in a blah, uninteresting flavor. It is usually best to let one flavor slightly dominate and use the others to enhance it. For example a strawberry drink can be improved with a small amount of lime.' Choose the main flavor of your drink and when enhancing that flavor use smaller ammounts of everything else. For example a fruit drink using this method. Orange is the main flavor and base. The pineapple spikes the drink and gives interest. >2 -oranges >1 -apple >6 -3/4' cubes of pineapple (tangy) >4-5 ounces of water (your preference) I always used bottled water rather than clorinated tap. >A scoop of small ice cubes the party size from the grocery store. probably 5-6 cubes for a chilled not frozen drink. This drink can be as is or more ingredients can be added for a completely different taste. 5-6 -frozen cranberries- (packs a nice spike) (very tart) and or the following makes a sweeter cherry as the main flavor drink. >6 frozen cherries (sweet) >Aproximatly 1 small handful of frozen mixed berries includes the following: 3 -frozen strawberries (sweet) 4 -frozen blackberries (Tart) 4 -frozen blueberries (sweet)

Subject: Pandora From: Mariam To: Pandora Date Posted: Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 16:02:45 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Font and colors look like so much fun. Does this work on e-mail too?

Subject: No it doesn't...I don't know why... From: Kathy To: Mariam Date Posted: Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 21:27:12 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: but I tried it and it doesn't...maybe Pandora knows why...I have to training...but it is fun

Subject: Re: No it doesn't. From: Pandora To: Kathy Date Posted: Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 09:29:30 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: No doesn't work with e-mail. The codes are used for making web pages. If you wanted to send a fancy e-letter to someone you would have to send a separate file or link to the pretty letter or page you made. Don't ask me too much about that one. Most of the time my computer and I don't even get along. It loves to taunt me.

Subject: Jody... From: Kathy To: Jody Date Posted: Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 09:54:33 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: go down to the message posted on the 23rd by Pandora, I think is says, Hey Kathy, Guess what? Read the message, then scroll down as if to make a reply, but read Pandora's message in the space right above in the Quoted Message area, there you can see how she typed in the codes... Give This A Try! It's fun...

Subject: Kathy... From: Pandora To: All Date Posted: Fri, Apr 24, 1998 at 19:25:02 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I only know a couple. font color='#FFOOOO'is red '#OOOOFF'is blue '#FFOOFF'is pinkish

Subject: Pandora From: Kathy To: Pandora Date Posted: Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 08:23:32 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Thanks Again! for the lessons

Subject: biometics vitamins From: Robynn To: All Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 23, 1998 at 13:25:02 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Pandora it was great to finally talk with you on the phone last night. I just got a phone call from the Biometics Company. They had received a request from you for more info and they called me to call you. She was glad to hear that we had already hooked up via the telephone.

Subject: Oh wow... From: Pandora To: Robynn Date Posted: Fri, Apr 24, 1998 at 18:56:08 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I put in my name to them on their website, but I honestly didn't think anything would ever come of it. I'm impressed that they really responded to my request, and so quickly. I anxiously await my vitamins...

Subject: For Robynn From: Mariam To: All Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 23, 1998 at 09:38:37 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Thanks for the great web board. Lots of wonderful info here. I am still waiting for the soy/tofu booklet you were going to send. I try to incorporate tofu in shakes and some tried&tested recipes will help. Could you also send some info on biometics, do you do a sample of those, say a weeks supply, to test them out first.

Subject: Re: For Mariam From: robynn To: Mariam Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 23, 1998 at 11:05:34 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: Hi Mariam, I had Vita Mix Corp send out that soy book to you back when we talked about it- could you do me a favor and email me your address again. Maybe It went to the wrong address who knows? I know that Kathy got hers in the mail, she has posted recipes from it that she has used. About the vitamins. They are liquid they come in a sealed bottle from the manufacture- but I have not found a satisfactory way of transporting opened bottles- short of being careful and keeping the bottles upright. That would not be very practical in the mail with an opened bottle. have you gone to the website for Bio-Metics? It has a lot of information on the products. I know I purchased the vitamins on hope (they are as good as I am hearing) I do pass out samples to people who are local and visiting me. But it wouldn't be practical to try to mail them.

Subject: Robynn...Technical question... From: Kathy To: All Date Posted: Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 13:04:56 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: when I'm online, I have a little Go place, that let's me go back to all the places I've been, but when I go to your board, everywhere I've been goes away...do you know what I mean? it's the only board that does that...it's not a big deal...but I was wondering why it happens...

Subject: Re: Robynn...Technical question... From: Gordon To: Kathy Date Posted: Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 16:34:50 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I am using a Netscape browser and when I came to this board it opened a new window just for the bulletin board. Now I am actually hooked up to two web pages at the same time, only the previous page is hidden. To get to where I was before I came here I can take a look at my taskbar (which is a Windows feature at the bottom of my screen that tells me what programs are currently open and which is showing) and click on the button which will pull up the page where I was before I came here (in this case 'New Vita-Mix BBS...'). The 'GO' menu on that screen will once again show where I've been. The 'GO' screen on this bulletin board is blank because when you come here a whole new browser window is created which hasn't been anywhere else. I hope you can understand what I'm trying to say, I was confused about this for a while when I began using the internet.

Subject: Re: More questions for Gordon From: Robynn To: Gordon Date Posted: Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 22:14:29 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: does this new window only appear when you come to this board? or any board? or never any other time?

Subject: Re: More questions for Gordon From: Gordon To: Robynn Date Posted: Sun, May 03, 1998 at 14:50:10 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: New windows appear sometimes with other bulletin boards and also sometimes with sites that aren't boards. I don't know why.

Subject: Re: Is anyone else experiencing this problem From: Robynn To: Kathy Date Posted: Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 14:35:08 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: That doesn't happen on my browser. I would appreciate it if the rest of you would check your GO menus and see if this is happening to you and let me know. It would be helpful to know the name of your broweser and the computer such as Netscape 3.0 IBM computer - Then I can ask the tech support people if they know why this might be happening. I know that happens to me at other times but I have never figured out why it happens. It sure is annoying.

Subject: I am using Nestscape 3.0 From: Kathy To: Robynn Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 23, 1998 at 12:31:25 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: and I'm using a Power Mac...this is my daughters computer...when she moves out (and I'm not in a hurry for her to do that) I'm going to have to get my own...I think I'm hooked... Look what Pandora taught me today... Fancy Stuff! I can get fancy now!

Subject: Re: I am using Nestscape 3.0 From: robynn To: Kathy Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 23, 1998 at 13:18:37 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I am Laughing?? i have netscape 3.0 and a power mac too. But not this problem. This sounds like a problem that my tech support people will say is at your end. Something could be clashing but who knows what. A place to start is with netscape go up to your help menu and find where you can email for tech support. I have done that before and they did respond. If anyone else has a suggestion to solve the problem or knows what is happening please post it.

Subject: I mean Netscape (nt) From: Kathy To: Kathy Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 23, 1998 at 12:33:52 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message:

Subject: I don't seem to be having a problem... From: Pandora To: Robynn Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 23, 1998 at 07:56:43 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I have netscape browser and a Compaq presario.

Subject: I used my VitaMix to chop... From: Kathy To: All Date Posted: Tues, Apr 21, 1998 at 22:56:13 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I made a macaroni salad tonight...I chopped celery, onions, radishes, carrots....this is the first time I have used it for this...and it worked great! Saved alot of time...

Subject: Re: I used my VitaMix to chop... From: Mariam To: Kathy Date Posted: Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 11:27:15 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Wet chop or dry chop? I don't use the wet chop much because I am concerned about loss of vitamins in the water (Is this a valid concern?). I havn't been too happy with the dry chop....I can chop only small quantities at a time and it is a pain to get every bit out. Am I doing something wrong? Don't get me wrong. I love my vitamix and all that it can do but I don't have a handle on chopping yet.

Subject: Re: I used my VitaMix to chop... From: Robynn To: Mariam Date Posted: Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 14:47:57 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: Get out your books that came with the Vita Mix. The big one with the binding has a question and answer section about 2/3 through the book just after the whole juice section. I recomed that you read through it. You will find a lot of tips and probably want to try chopping again. The Vita Mix is a major time saver. Try grating cheese or making instant bread crumbs. You will be convert in the seconds that it takes to make these.

Subject: dry chopping From: Kathy To: Mariam Date Posted: Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 12:53:10 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I chopped everthing dry...I was very happy with it...I made a macaroni salad...the celery didn't come out in little cubes, like if I chopped it by hand...but the time saving was worth it...the onion and carrot were fine, the radishes were also fine, I chopped them very fine...it was just the celery that was sort of shredded shapes...I use a a very small spatuala to get the stuff out...I did the celery first...there was still some in the container when I did the carrot, but that helped get the celery out...I did the onion last...I don't like using it for onions because of the smell, I usually use a hand food processor for onions, one that you turn the handle by hand...I only use it for onions, but this time I used the VitaMix for everything...I didn't think of using water, I do chop potatoes with water for hash browns, this works really well, you just have to rinse the starch off and drain the potatoes to get as much of the water out as possible before you cook them...I don't know that I would worry about vitamin loss...it probably does happen...I just wouldn't have thought of that...maybe I would use water if I was making a soup, as all the water could be included...

Subject: thanks From: Mariam To: Kathy Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 23, 1998 at 09:31:02 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Thanks for all the tips folks. I'll definitely try chopping again.

Subject: Banana Chocolate Smoothie From: Jay To: All Date Posted: Tues, Apr 21, 1998 at 20:08:46 (PDT) Email Address: Jwins58448@aolcom Message: Guess estimate. Mix one pack of Carnation Hot Chocolate mix, 1 ripened banana, 1 cup of skim milk, ice, and a little sugar. Blend until smooth. Not a health drink, but the children love it.

Subject: Re: This will go over big!! From: robynn To: Jay Date Posted: Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 14:43:02 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: That sounds like a great after school snack. When the kids come home and all of their hungry friends descend on the place. The banana would be very filling. This just might get them out of my kitchen faster- With less damage!! It seems like they eat me out of house and home.

Subject: Suppress your appetite From: David To: All Date Posted: Tues, Apr 21, 1998 at 19:56:23 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Robynn, We've been using the Vitamix for juice drinks in the morning instead of a heavy breakfast. Ususally do the same at lunch. The Biometics Bio-Fuel 2000 liquid vitamins have added to the feeling of contentment during the day. They have really taken away the appetite for coffee in me and sweets in my wife. I guess it's because the body is finally getting the nutrients it needs after all those pills. Thanks again!!!

Subject: Re: Turns on your natural sensor that tells you that you are full From: Robynn To: David Date Posted: Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 15:03:31 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: Hi David, These vitamins are incredible. Personally I wouldn't call them appetite suppressants- There are no amphetimines in them. But I am deffinitely satisfied with smaller portions. I have a houseguest who has been visiting for a few days. We were just discussing this last night. He is diabetic and not terribly healthy. He said the reason he is fat is because his body and brain don't tell him that he is full or that he has fed his body. So he eats and eats. Since starting these vitamins I feel like my brain knows that it has been fed. That sensation kicks in NOW, not later in delayed way, and tells me that I have had enough food to eat. It is really quite strange at first. My house guest is amazed he said since he has just started taking the vitamins his sence of smell is returning. He woke this morning really happy after a great nights sleep. He had had incredible dreams after the night time vitamin cocktail. He is very impressed with these vitamins after only a few days. The immediate responses that most people have once they try these vitamins are amazing. No one can believe it until it happens. How could anyone guess that his sense of smell would improve or my bone spur would stop hurting and giving me trouble. There is no telling what will start to improve but generally something unexpected does improve- and in a big way.

Subject: Re: gaining sense of smell back From: Robynn To: r Date Posted: Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 15:32:06 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: I just had another conversation with my houseguest. He can't get over the fact that he is smelling things. He said the smells are almost shocking because he has not been able smell things for nearly 10 years. He told me that the only things he has been lucky enough to smell are hot steaming food like soups that are right under his nose. I asked him about his taste sensation and he told me that all he can taste are hot hot spicy foods. Last night he said it was a weird sensation to be sitting in the movie theatre and smell the hothog and mustard that someone else nearby was eating. Again it hit him with a shock when the scent of flowers wafted in his window as he was dropping off to sleep. Then this morning he wasn't hit with car exaust fumes as we walked through a parking lot. He is is very excited- He told me that all the men in his family have lost their sence of smell it is just a bad thing that he had accepted years ago. He is thinking he will get some for his father the next time he visits him as he also has lost his sence of smell.

Subject: Avocado Lime Dressing From: Pandora To: All Date Posted: Tues, Apr 21, 1998 at 09:11:16 (PDT) Email Address: silva123@earthlink.net Message: Avocado Lime Dressing 1/3 c Avocado 2 Tbl Herbed vinegar 1/4 c Lime juice 2 Garlic cloves 1 Serrano chili, seeded (use less or omit altogether if you don't like hot stuff) 3 Tbl Eggless mayo 1/2 c Pure water Dash Sea salt and cracked pepper to taste Blend on High until smooth.

Subject: Re: Pears in Smoothie From: Jody To: Pandora Date Posted: Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 16:29:35 (PDT) Email Address: jjean@mdn.net Message: I like the idea of using the Pears in a Smoothie. Do you have a list of the other ingredients you also use (I guess a recipe). I have only had my Vitamix not even 2 wks. yet, so I am following recipes exactly as called for. However, I do like the orange juice recipe that Robynn posted ...it's great ... goes as follows, 2 oranges 1/2 apple (my own ingredient) 1/2 cup water 3-4 ice cubes squirt of honey mix on #3 for 30 sec. -- then switch of #4 for 20 more seconds. This is great ... very quick & easy and the ice is not dissolved, but just rather broken up, and the pulp is great!! My 16 yr. old son and I just love this ... but my 14 yr. old son doesn't like the pulp at all! Hope someone tries this and enjoys it!! Jody

Subject: Re: I'll try your juice recipe. Here's my smoothie recipe... From: Pandora To: Jody Date Posted: Tues, Apr 21, 1998 at 09:06:15 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: My smoothies are always different, but here is the one I made yesterday. It came out really good. 1 cup of tangerine juice 1 scoop of soy protein powder (vanilla flavor) 1/2 banana 1 apple 1/2 pear 1/2 plum 3/4 cup cubed watermelon 1/2 frozen grapes Blend for about 45 seconds on High.

Subject: Sweetness From: Steve To: All Date Posted: Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 13:57:58 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: The other night I made some cheese sauce for macaroni and cheese. The sauce came out quite sweet tasting (a bit like velveta), which put some of my family off. I've noticed this sweetness in many sauces. What's up with this?

Subject: Re: Sweetness From: robynn To: Steve Date Posted: Tues, Apr 21, 1998 at 00:48:11 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: Steve, give us an idea of what ingredients you are using. Type of cheese etc, whole milk vs rice milk then maybe we can figure it out. I haven't had this problem so I'm guessing there is a particular ingredient that is adding the sweet flavor.

Subject: Try some pears... From: Pandora To: All Date Posted: Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 13:52:05 (PDT) Email Address: silva123@earthlink.net Message: in your fruit shakes in the morning. I can't stand pears normally. That grittiness just doesn't agree with me. So I throw a half of one in my smoothie and yummy! I also throw in a whole apple. That's a lot of fiber and makes it nice and filling.

Subject: Re:what variety From: robynn To: Pandora Date Posted: Tues, Apr 21, 1998 at 00:51:28 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: i hate pears! I am game to try this. Pears to me are like eating fruit at the beach in the middle of a wind storm. How ripe are the pears you are using and what variety? How long do you blend to get rid of the grit?

Subject: I Love Pears... From: Kathy To: robynn Date Posted: Tues, Apr 21, 1998 at 22:59:46 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: they just need to be ripe...Barlett are my favorite... D'Anjou are good too...I don't care for the skin on Bosc, but the inside is creamy...now the Red Barlett's are out...I can't believe you think they are gritty! I think they are juicy...in fact they are really messy to eat if they are ripe enough...

Subject: I admit that I don't know much about pears... From: Pandora To: Kathy Date Posted: Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 12:07:50 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: maybe there are some non-gritty types out there. But I've only had gritty ones. I also can't eat raspberries or boysenberries because of those hard little seeds on them. Yuck! Might as well eat dirt! But I like the flavor. I can eat them now because the VM grinds up the seeds.

Subject: So how do you get your messages... From: Kathy To: Pandora Date Posted: Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 13:01:47 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: with the fancy type? I'm not very computer literate, but I've noticed you change the size alot...how do you do that? I can't find anyway of doing that...anyway I like berries too...we sell some grapes now, they are called red globe...some man (a customer, I call Jimmy, his real name has about 50 letters in it) told me how healthy the seeds are, I can't eat grape seeds...I am going to have to get some and put them in a smoothy to see if they all grind up...I've heard they are very healthy for you....

Subject: Hey Kathy, guess what?!... From: Pandora To: Kathy Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 23, 1998 at 08:05:23 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: If you look in the Quoted Message: box right above the reply box, it shows all the codes I typed in. That way you can see what I'm talking about. bold italic underline blink size 5 text I hope this is blue

Subject: Re: Hey Kathy, guess what?!... From: Kathy To: Pandora Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 23, 1998 at 11:44:51 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Thanks! I am trying it now!

Subject: Pandora, Look What I Did... From: Kathy To: Kathy Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 23, 1998 at 11:55:28 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: It's Fun!...Thank You Again! Thanks for teaching me...where do you find the color codes?

Subject: Re: Grape seeds are good for you? From: Pandora To: Kathy Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 23, 1998 at 07:47:33 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Grape seeds are good for you? I can't stand the seeds. I only buy them now and then if they don't have the seedless available. I put them into the VM and it grinds the seeds. But you have to blend for a minute at least, or you don't grind them good. Maybe I'll start buying the ones with seeds from now on. You have to type in HTML codes to change the letters or colors You type the code into brackets < >. I typed- font size=4 -and put it in the brackets. The / will turn it off- /font. If you put the word blink in those brackets, then this happens. Or color color The code for italics is just a lower case i Am I making any sense at all??

Subject: Ha-Ha!! I love your description... From: Pandora To: robynn Date Posted: Tues, Apr 21, 1998 at 08:58:52 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I just buy whatever pears are at my health food store. I am not used to buying them, so I don't recall what kind. Bartlett? I have used a couple of different kinds. I also don't know how ripe a pear is supposed to be. Gosh, I just don't know anything about pears because I have never bought them before. But I don't use more than 1/2 a pear at a time because then the grittiness doesn't go away at all. I blend for about 45 seconds or a minute. There will be slight grittiness, but it doesn't bother me, espescially when mixed with all the other yummy fruits.

Subject: USED VITA-MIX for SALE???? From: rick To: All Date Posted: Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 08:24:39 (PDT) Email Address: jorick@erols.com Message: I am looking for a used vita-mix. Anyone have one or know where I can find one? THANKS!

Subject: Re: USED VITA-MIX for SALE???? From: Ron To: rick Date Posted: Fri, May 01, 1998 at 15:29:17 (PDT) Email Address: rvanrossum@teltech.com Message: I am looking for a used vita-mix. Anyone have one or know where I can find one? THANKS! --- I might be interested in a used one, too, if it was at a good price. Please let me know if you've got some good information. Thank you! Ron

Subject: Quck Morning Tip From: Jody To: All Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 16, 1998 at 14:48:57 (PDT) Email Address: jjean@mdn.net Message: Sure am enjoying my new VitaMix. Have yet to try anything but the fruit drinks/smoothies ... just love 'em! Liked what everyone else was saying about making them and drinking them on their way to work in the morning. However ... I have never been one to get out of bed a minute earlier than absolutely necessary; so I knew I had to come up with a solution other than making it the night before. MY SOLUTION ... I take a large glass and put all the ingredients in, in the reverse order suggested by VitaMix (if it calls for something like frozen strawberries, I simply measure out how much I need and put them in a small baggy in the freezer); then I store the glass in the frig., with saran wrap over it and a rubber band to keep it air tight; then in the morning all I have to do is empty the glass into the VitaMix container, add the ice, mix and I'm out the door. Usually there is enough left so I can leave a small glass for each of my sons. Hope this helps anyone who can't find enough time in the morning to get things done!! Still have to try the Chocolate Tofu Pudding ... maybe this weekend!! Jody

Subject: Re: Great suggestion -1 more.. From: Robynn To: Jody Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 16, 1998 at 15:12:24 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Great suggestion, I am the same way. Sunday morning before church is the clencher for me. I like to prepare zip lock baggys of my favorite fruits. Like peeling and quartering 2 quarts worth of oranges. Another bag full of pinapple chunks. Bannanas broken into the right size peices etc. With ahead prep I can be creative in a flash.

Subject: Strange From: Steve To: All Date Posted: Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 18:55:36 (PDT) Email Address: brettell@erols.com Message: I tried split pea soup. Using standard amounts of peas and water and seasonings, it turned into concrete almost at once. I mean it. The soup got so thick that it blew out the breaker. It tasted REALLY sweet, but could be cut with a knife. I get similar results with cabbage in soups.

Subject: Re: Strange From: Jay To: Steve Date Posted: Tues, Apr 21, 1998 at 20:15:13 (PDT) Email Address: Jwins58448@aol.com Message: You may be using to much flour as a thickner

Subject: Re: Strange From: Pandora To: Steve Date Posted: Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 19:25:16 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Not enough liquid. Anything you are going to liquify gets thicker so you need to add extra liquid. Especially split pea. It is already so thick without pureeing. Try more liquid next time.

Subject: Link Info about Vitamins From: Robynn To: All Date Posted: Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 13:10:08 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: It's tax d-day and I haven't had a chance to deal with the vitamin question. Yes you have to get them through a distributor. I happen to be a distributor and that is why David and the others have mentioned the vitamins on the BBS. Here is a link you can use to learn more about the vitamins and the company. Check out http://www.biometics.com. This stuff is great. No pills to stick in your throat- No fillers etc. This stuff goes right to the blood- you FEEL the difference in 10 minutes. I will post more about the vitamins later but after I get my taxes dealt with. AHHHHH!!! Deadlines!!!

Subject: Thanks Robynn... From: Pandora To: Robynn Date Posted: Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 17:56:12 (PDT) Email Address: silva123@earthlink.net Message: Thanks for the link to Biometics. Sorry I was so persistent. I read everything there, and it sounds great. I would love for you to send me some info. Is it possible to send ingredient lists to me? I would like to know which of the products are dairy-free. Hopefully the main Bio 2000 is (I think that was the name) . Hope your taxes are coming along okay. =^)

Subject: VitaMINS/VitaMIX/Energy From: David To: All Date Posted: Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 18:11:33 (PDT) Email Address: dkoszka@hotmail.com Message: Robynn, The Vitamix has been great that you sold me-fruit drinks in the morning to get me going and better energy. They help act as a meal replacement without losing pulp and fiber. Biometics vitamins you offer are also the panacea for energy. Tried them in liquid form and felt IMMEDIATE results (unlike the pills out there). Pharmecutical grade really intrigues me too. Gave a sample to our friend who is sick with morning sickness and it helped her get rid of all the nausea!!!!! My wife has gotten rid of back pain within a week. These products are going to put Biometics on the map. Thanks!!!

Subject: Re: I bought the vitamins too From: Sue To: David Date Posted: Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 18:04:09 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Oh my gosh, I am so thrilled with these vitamins. When I get that slump in the middle of the day and I start to grab junk food I take an additional 1/3 of a dose of the daily vitamins. That gives me the energy to avoid the junk food snack and prepare a real meal. Then even if I do grab the junk the real true beauty is since I started taking these vitamins is I only eat a little bit of the sweets before I am satisfyed. The other day I bought a giant candy bar at the grocery store. When I opened it I only ate 3 bites. I didn't want anymore. Three bites satisfyed me. Wow!!! Amazing stuff! I figured this out because about 4:00- 5:00 P.M. is when my kids start their homework and I was giving them a 1/3 dose before starting. Robynn had sugested that- because she is doing that with her kids. I took the vitamins too, along with the kids. I have been skipping the energy dive that usually hits me by 7:00 P.M. I am so impressed. And guess what I have lost 7-lbs. This is really incredible. Have you tried the Bio- Night product? I want to try that one next. I am only using the Vitamins the Aloe and the Calcium Magnesium drink. What all have you tried? This stuff is great

Subject: Send me info.. From: Pandora To: Sue Date Posted: Tues, Apr 14, 1998 at 09:26:40 (PDT) Email Address: silva123@earthlink.net Message: Oh, these sound great. I have tried every vitamin also. I imagine this is not cheap (but neither are the vitamins I use right now). I would love to have more info on this. It does sound too good to be true. I have terrible skin problems (dry, itchy, eczema) and my father can't sleep. Do you have to go through a distributor? Hurry! Send me info!!

Subject: Me Too, Please! From: Kathy To: Robynn Date Posted: Tues, Apr 14, 1998 at 14:38:11 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I am also interested...Thanks!

Subject: vitamins... From: Kathy To: David Date Posted: Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 22:14:41 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: can you tell me about Biometrics?

Subject: Re: Vitamins and Energy From: David To: Kathy Date Posted: Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 17:52:16 (PDT) Email Address: dkoszka@hotmail.com Message: Well, if you're anything like our family you have a pill drawer. You know, you open the drawer in the kitchen and every kind of pill that you've ever tried and then lost interest in is there. My wife would try Shaklee, Manatec, NeoLife, etc., etc. Then Robin told us about her vitamins. Not pills but liquid. One tablespoon equals a handful of those horse pills the others want you to take. Biometics has a patented absorption process for your cells. Pills are absorbed at about 10% if you're lucky. Biometics is in the 90%+ area. They were created by a Dr. Ritolo who was/is working on a cellular level cure for cancer. These absorb into your cells at up to 1000 times more than pills. As a consequence, you actually feel the difference in energy. When can you say that about a pill? There are also weight programs and for those who can't sleep there is a calcium/magnesium product and a melatonin product as well. They only have about a dozen products and are super easy and fast to take. I know this sounds to good to be true but it isn't. We've been searching for something like this (hence our pill drawer) and this stuff works. Case in point: My dentist has me in every 3 months for a cleaning because my gums were so bad and bleeding. I try to do all the right things but my body just wasn't responding. I took Biometics for 6 weeks before my last cleaning and the dentist couldn't believe the results in my gums-almost complete reversal. They say the gums are a reflection of the shape your body is in. Mine was vitamin deficient even though I eat well. We're just not getting the nutrients from even our healthy food. Anyway, these are a way of life now and we'll never be without them!

Subject: Yeah, I never heard of these... From: Pandora To: Kathy Date Posted: Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 09:44:01 (PDT) Email Address: silva123@earthlink.net Message: I'd like to know more also.

Subject: Re: These Vitamins are incredible From: Robynn To: Pandora Date Posted: Tues, Apr 14, 1998 at 02:18:43 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: These vitamins are incredible. When I first heard about them I could not believe that they could possibly be as good as my friends were telling me. But after using them I am sold. I have talked to several people who I have known for years who also started taking these vitamins. One woman had had an emergency C-section 18 years ago. She had a horrible scar that hadnt faded in all those years. She has talked about that ugly scar for as long as I have known her. She started using the product and after 9-11 months the scar had completely disapeared. She never expected that to happen and was shocked to discover that it had disapeared. Her grandaughter is the one who noticed that her Grammy's tummy looked different. I started taking the vitamins and my very painful bone spur stopped aching and throbbing after only one week of using the products. Both of you, Pandora and Kathy know from the VegSourse board I have posted alot about not being able to exercise, I couldn't even hardly go out for a walk. I could get around- but I couldn't go walking for enjoyment and I couldn't do any sustained activity that involved my feet. I couldn't even dance (NO impact aerobics) in my bedroom. I posted at the VegSourse on the medical board asking what had others done about bone spurs. None of the advice I have gotten from anywhere helped. I was ready to plunk down serious money with a Chinese doctor- I was desperate for an alternative. I decided to try these vitamins first, thinking maybe super nutrition would get my body ready to utilize whatever the Chinese doctor came up with for a remedy. I never dreamed that these would actually alleviate my problem. I can now go out walking I can do anything I want to I even can walk jog and keep up with my teenager. I am overjoyed to feel normal again. What I didn't believe was possible is the sweet tooth is curbed. Now I can have a totally decadent desert in front of me and eat only a little of it. Yesterday at Easter I ate only tastes of things from my kids Easter baskets and later I ate only a tiny bit of desert. I didn't want anymore. A little was enough. There are no chemicals and nothing to hype you like in diet pills but because my body is getting the nutrients that it needs I am not craving other stuff. I am eating less food because of it and I am loosing weight. I walked down the street and the neighbor called out to me the other day- 'Hey stranger, I haven't seen you around!' When I got up close - I said, ' Well I have been out going for a walk everyday lately' She said, 'I thought you were one of the kids I didn't reconize you- You have lost weight!' These are like no other vitamins- I have tried so many different brands of vitamins for this and that. Always natural expensive brands from the health stores. Never synthetic drug store vitamins- I know those don't do anything for your health- Nothing has ever given such dramatic results as these vitamins.

Subject: A Few Questions!! From: Jody To: Robynn Date Posted: Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 17:38:27 (PDT) Email Address: jjean@mdn.net Message: Robynn After having a chance to use my VitaMix a few times this very busy weekend, and after finally having some time to look over the wonderful recipe books (they all sound so delicioius!!), I find I do have a few questions. As for cleaning the plastic container, I have just been taking it over to the sink, putting in a drop or two of liquid detergent and using my spray hose to make suds, cleaning with a wash rag and rinsing, all right at my sink. No where in the literature, could I find whether or not it is safe to completely submerge the container in water. I haven't done that, but wonder is it safe to get the metal part on the bottom of the container wet. I image some people who are lucky enough to have a dishwasher might want to occassionally wash it in there (one of these years I'm going to put that dishwasher on my priorty list). So is this something that should not get wet or not? Also, in some of the recipes it calls for 'fructose' as a sweetener, and I have never used this stuff (really don't even know what it is) and was wondering if I can subsitute honey for this fructose in most of the recipes. Thanks for your help! Jody

Subject: You can get the bottom wet... From: Kathy To: Jody Date Posted: Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 21:17:33 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: if you had a dishwasher it would get wet...I wash mine in the sink all the time...I only put it back on the base when I make bread...I put some warm water...a drop of soap...and whirl it for about 30 sec...this cleans the bread dough...I don't have the base wet when I do this...but have you ever been to a Juice Club where they use VitaMixer's...they submerge them in a sink of water...rinse...and make more....

Subject: Re: Everthing except the base motor housing unit can be emmersed From: Robynn To: Kathy Date Posted: Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 17:25:28 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: The motor base is the only thing you have to be careful about. It is designed with a protective cover for spells but it cannot be emmersed. The container, lid, and plunger are all dishwasher safe.

Subject: Happy Easter Everyone From: Robynn To: All Date Posted: Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 14:19:56 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I'm off to visit the relatives. Two hour ordeal to get there for a trip that would take 45 minutes. I've had my Vita Mix smoothie for the day and thought I would check in real quick and tell everyone Hello.

Subject: VitaMix Arrived ... It's Great!! From: Jody To: All/Robynn Date Posted: Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 12:12:02 (PDT) Email Address: jjean@mdn.net Message: Wanted to let Robynn know my VitaMix arrived Fri. (4/10). I was a little intimidated at first by its size and to think of how much it cost, and that I had to be really careful using it! I am finding out that it is very easy to use and that it's a lot more expensive to 'eat healthy' than to fill up on 'junk food'. I am doing as the directions say and trying the first four recipes in the beginner book. The first three were great! And my preparation time has gotten faster since the 1st fruit drink. My husband has not tried the fruit drinks yet, but both my sons (14 & 16) really like them. Maybe I can keep them away from too much junk food once in awhile. Since I got my machine mainly for juicing, I am so very pleased that I went with the VitaMix instead of a traditonal juicer. Everything tastes wonderful, there is no fruit to waste and the cleanup is effortless. I even found a spot for it on my kitchen counter ... it is rather large! The base fits nicely next to the toaster and the glass blender jar fits in the cupboard above. All very handy!! Anyway, just wanted to let Robynn know I got my machine and how much I like it. Happy Easter, Jody.

Subject: Re: VitaMix Arrived ... It's Great!! From: Robynn To: Jody Date Posted: Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 14:27:07 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Hi jody I'm glad that you love your machine. It may seem at first like it is a lot more expensive to eat healthy but if you keep the machine handy and make the healthy stuff first you are too full to eat the junk food which ounce for ounce is alot more expensive than fresh fruit. I rarely ever make frozen juice anymore I make fresh. I figure that the fresh is deffinitely cheaper than concentrate. Of course a traditional juicer would truely kill any food budget it takes so many peices of fruit just to make one drink. gotta run Easter dinner will be waiting for my family to arrive.

Subject: HAPPY EASTER!!!!... From: Pandora To: All Date Posted: Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 09:17:50 (PDT) Email Address: silva123@earthlink.net Message: Hope everyone has a great day!!

Subject: strawberry ice cream From: Kathy To: All Date Posted: Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 19:34:51 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I finally made it tonight, had parents over for dinner, and whipped up strawberry ice cream in a couple of minutes...I can't believe how good it is, it was soft serve when I made it...1 cup of non-dairy creamer, 1 1-lb bag of frozen strawberries (no sugar added), 1/2 cup of sugar, 1/2 tsp of vanilla, and about 2 cups of ice...so simple, 4 of us had a serving, as we had just eaten, so we only had a small serving, I now have the rest in the freezer turning into hard ice cream...I can't believe I waited so long to try it...I was just waiting til I had a reason...really good stuff!

Subject: Vegan Strawberry Icecream From: Tuffy To: Kathy Date Posted: Tues, May 05, 1998 at 19:48:23 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Just thought I would share my recipe for vegan Strawberry Icecream. I think that it it delicius...and it was the recipe that made me want a vitamix 10 years ago...finally got one:) Tuffy * Exported from MasterCook * Strawberry 'Ice Cream' Recipe By : The Pritikin Promise by Nathan Pritikin Serving Size : 3 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Fruit Desserts Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method --- --- -- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- -- 2 cups brown rice -- soft cooked 2 tablespoons apple juice, from frozen concentrate plus water to make 1/2 cup 4 cups strawberries, frozen -- unsweetened few drops each of almond and vanilla extract Process the rice and diluted juice in the Vita-Mix on high speed until very smooth; add the strawberries and flavorings and continue to process until the strawberries are worked into the mixture. Serve immediately. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - NOTES : If you have a fabulous multipurpose machine called a Vita-Mix (for everything from bread to ice cream you'll be able to make this recipe one of the many developed for the Pritikin diet by the Vita-mix people. This 'ice cream' is unique in that it uses no milk products and has rice as a chief ingredient. The rice should be soft cooked so add a little extra water in cooking it.

Subject: Re: strawberry ice cream From: Steve To: Kathy Date Posted: Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 19:00:53 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Can you use artificial sweetner? I'm diabetic, and trying not to use sugar if possible.

Subject: Re: sugars and sweetners From: Robynn To: Steve Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 16, 1998 at 15:05:59 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: You can use anything that you like the taste of that you can eat. The sugar isn't what matters in making the icecream. If you were to use a liquid a sugar like honey for instance you would have to consider that part of your liquid ratio- But the icecream is going to freeze because of the frozen ingredients. My daughters add sugar. I prefer to make things using frozen fruits that are naturally high in sugar such as cherries or pinapple chuncks. A scoop of fruit juice frozen concentrate adds sugar and flavor too. I don't know what your dietary restrictions are but you can work with just about anything for ingredients. The healthier the ingredients the better for your health. Maybe one of the doctors that check in here might have a better healthier suggestion for you than the artificial sweeteners that you are currently using. Is your condition insulin dependent or are you controling your diet. That may make a difference in the answer that you get. Stevia might be an option it is sweeter than sugar it has an odd aftertaste that takes getting used to. It reminds me of artificial sweeteners- but it is natural. It is used often in other countries as a healthier option than sugar. Of course I don't know whether it is an option for diabetics. You could check at good health store then check with your doctor. It can be purchased in small amounts to try it out. A little goes a mile it is so sweet to the taste buds.

Subject: I am sure you can... From: Kathy To: Steve Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 16, 1998 at 07:51:14 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: or just try it without...I used unsweetened strawberries, I bet if you could get some really sweet fresh strawberries...you could freeze them yourself ...maybe you'd like it with no added sweetness...but I'm sure artificial sweetners would work fine

Subject: Re: strawberry ice cream From: Pandora To: Kathy Date Posted: Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 09:16:33 (PDT) Email Address: silva123@earthlink.net Message: What kind of non-dairy creamer did you use? Does it have hydrogenated oil in it? I try to stay away from that but I'll use it for a treat now and then if I can't find anything else to use.

Subject: I used store brand non-dairy creamer... From: Kathy To: Pandora Date Posted: Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 21:13:08 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: but I really don't know why you couldn't use soy milk...or soy yogurt...It was a day when I didn't have much time...and I just picked up something where I work...It was really good though...after we froze the remainder...my daughter had some and it was like a sherbet...next time I'm going to try it with soy...it called for a cup...I don't know why you couldn't drop some tofu and water in the blender first...make a liquid...add the rest of the ingredients...if I had someone home to eat it I would try that right now...

Subject: Re: I used store brand non-dairy creamer... From: Dr. H. To: Kathy Date Posted: Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 15:48:16 (PDT) Email Address: drjamesh@aol.com Message: Have you ever tried nonfat dry milk? The Vitamix demonstrater at the home show used it...might be a good replacement for powdered creamer...with no additives. Dr. H.

Subject: Re: I used store brand non-dairy creamer... From: Pandora To: Dr. H. Date Posted: Tues, Apr 14, 1998 at 09:14:19 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Well, I don't eat dairy, but I have powdered soy milk. Dry milk is powdered milk, right? I will give that a try. Thanks!

Subject: Re: Icecreams From: Robynn To: Dr. H. Date Posted: Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 17:44:47 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: If you don't mind the taste of non fat milk in things this will work and the demonstrators use it all the time because it is so cheap and easy. (real milk) Non fat milk icecubes will work also, then you don't have to add ice to your mixture either. Another Idea is frozen pudding or frozen icecream recipe mixture frozen in the icecube tray. One day I am going to try it with a frozen rice pudding mixture. That sounds really delicious. As you experiment there is a ratio of frozen to non frozen ingredients. Too much liquid you will never get icecream too much ice and the blades can't move (Everything freezes to quickly too solidly.) This is explained in the questions and answers section of the big recipe book- A Must Read Section For Everyone!! I would give you the page number but my girls were reading the cookbook last and it is temporarily misplaced. They were meal planning the other night. Let know what you try and the results you get.

Subject: Cinnamon Creamy Corn Cake From: Kathy To: All Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 09, 1998 at 10:29:24 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: This is a really good recipe, from Meatless Gourmet, I used my VitaMix to make it the other day... Topping 2 tsp. sugar 1/4 tsp ground cinnamon (I use more of this, I put some sugar in a cup, sprinkle in some cinnamon, quite a bit of it, and sprinkle this all over the top before baking, makes a nice topping... Cake 3/4 cup yellow cornmeal 3/4 all-purpose flour 1 tsp baking powder 1/2 tsp ground cinnamon 1/8 tsp salt 1 1-pound can cream-style corn 2/3 cup sugar 3 egg whites (or egg replacer) 1 tbl vanilla extract This is how I did it...I mixed the cornmeal, flour, baking powder, cinnamon, and salt in a bowl, I put the cream-style corn, sugar, egg whites, and vanilla in the VitaMix, and mixed on Variable until smooth. (you can leave a few chunks of corn, or blend until totally smooth, whatever you like)... then I mixed the wet ingredients into the dry ingredients and stirred until moistened. Then sprinkle the topping all over the top...Bake in a preheated 350 oven, in an 8-inch baking pan, that was sprayed with vegetable spray... Everyone always loves this...and the VitaMix made it that much easier to make

Subject: Composting From: Helen To: All Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 09, 1998 at 10:09:08 (PDT) Email Address: hlocke@concentric.net Message: Hi, Folks! Robynn inivted me to come here and check out the information about composting and worms based on interests I expressed at another forum. I did that and have learned some things here that I think will allow me to accomplish my goals of recycling and nurturing my garden without turning it into a major production. Thanks for the info. I'll keep checking in for more tips.

Subject: How to knead bread with Vita mix From: Robynn To: All Date Posted: Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 08:29:11 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: Perfect Bread Recipe You can make perfect delicious bread with the Vita Mix. Even if you have never made bread before in your life. The bread cookbook that comes with your Vita Mix just does not explain the kneading process clearly enough. It is especially confusing if you don't know what to expect from your ingredients. What you need to know is how to use your Vita Mix to knead the dough. Once you have that down the world will be open to you. And it doesnÕt take more than about 6 minutes to get your loaf into the pan and rising. Vita Mix Recipe book page 18 Whole Wheat Bread 1. Heat your water and honey in the microwave on high for about 45 seconds to a minute. You want it comfortably hot on your wrist. (Too hot will kill the yeast) You may add more honey (It is delicious with 2-3 tablespoons) just start with a quarter cup less water. Add your honey then bring the water level to a tablespoon above 1-1/4 cup of water. You don't need to wait on Rapid yeast. This mixture will have started to get a slight foam on it before you add it to the flour below. 2. (Freshly ground wheat flour is too hot for the yeast so follow the directions in the cookbook about adding cool water if you are grinding your own) If you are starting with purchased whole wheat flour, Stone Burh is a common one at the grocery store for example, measure your dry ingredients into either blade container. (I have only used the dry container but the book says either one works fine for kneading the bread) With the lid in place turn the Vita Mix onto high for about 5 seconds. This will create a well in the center of the dry ingredients. You will add your wet ingredients down inside of this well. (Like they show in the Vita Mix video.) 3. Add the oil and lemon juice. Pour them down inside the well. I also like to add 1/2 tsp of vanilla and a 1/4 tsp of apple cider vinegar at this time. Next I pour the yeast mixture down the well. It will fill up the well and then spill out to cover the dry ingredients. Sprinkle cinnamon all over the top if you like. (Or add it earlier to the dry flour before adding the wet ingredients. I often forget and do it here.) Kneading 4. Let the mixture sit for a minute. I like to let the wet ingredients soak into the top a little. I get my best results when the top is fully wet everything seems to mix better down below. With the 2-part lid in place, Turn the machine on high for 1-2 seconds. This will splash up some so make sure the middle part of the lid is in place. Now remove the lid. With a spatula go down the sides to the bottom and pull the bread mixture towards the middle and away from the sides. You will knead your loaf in the Vita Mix for 5-7 sets of the following: Lid back in place (you don't have to lock it now) Turn the machine onto the High setting (this is one set) - on and off in quick bursts just as quickly as you can read on and off-(DO NOT do 1 second bursts) -on and off 5 times. Again use your spatula down the sides all the way to the bottom pulling the mixture in towards the middle. Now your mixture is mixed enough that you won't need the lid any more. (set 2) 5 short on off bursts. Use the spatula on the sides again. Continue and do this for a total of 5-7 sets. The mixture will seem elasticy it will be thoroughly mixed no dry flour and it will be forming a big ball in the center of the container. Do your last 5 bursts to lift the ball of dough up on top of the blades and dump out either into the prepared pan or what I like to do is dump out onto a lightly floured bread board. With my hands oiled, I use a light olive oil, I knead the bread 3-4 times and shape into a loaf and plop into my pan. Let rise and bake. Mine comes out perfect in a 350 oven in 25 minutes. The recipe says to bake for 35 minutes so you will have to watch it for your best time. I also drizzle melted butter honey and cinnamon all over the top before baking. This bread is devoured quickly by everyone who enters the kitchen. It makes mouth watering toast. I tested this recipe with the Stone Burh flour tonight it rose beautifully and tasted scrumptious. Like a raisin bread without the raisins. Happy Bread making. Robynn

Subject: Re: How to knead bread with Vita mix From: Dr. H. To: Robynn Date Posted: Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 07:40:29 (PDT) Email Address: drjamesh@aol.com Message: Robynn...My wife was out with her girlfriends las night...so my daughters ages 10 and 12 made bread in the vita mix...we had a ball and it was too simple...what helped was to watch the getting started video that came with the machine...my wife came home just as the bread came out of the oven...and we all had a piece...guess we'll just have to make some more tonight! BTW...do you ever let the bread raise in the vitamix...do the bursts of 5 and then move to the pan? Dr. H.

Subject: Re: How to knead bread with Vita mix From: robynn To: Dr. H. Date Posted: Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 10:47:14 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: No I have never let it rise in the Vita Mix. My GUESS is that it would be a horrible mess to get out.The dough would be stuck to the sides etc. but if you try it let us know. Which recipe did you try?? You know that you can make bread in either container. You can only grind grain flour in the dry container. You could mix up two loafs real quick.

Subject: Do you have a 'White' bread recipe?... From: Kathy To: robynn Date Posted: Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 11:11:48 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I'm having company tomorrow, and my Mom says she can't eat whole wheat...do you have a recipe using all-purpose or bread flour...I have a recipe for sourdough and french...but I don't have the time to make those?

Subject: I tried it...it worked great... From: Kathy To: Kathy Date Posted: Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 00:31:27 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I used the whole wheat recipe, but used 2 3/4 cup unbleached white flour...came out great...I'm not really a white bread lover...I just wanted to know if I could make it...

Subject: Important Warranty Info From: Robynn To: All Date Posted: Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 08:08:10 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: DO NOT FORGET!!! DO NOT FORGET!!! DO NOT FORGET!!! The first thing you should do when you open the box is fill out your warranty info. It is a short form. It is very important that you return it TO VITA MIX. Then if you have any problems during the next 7 years your info is on record. Should you ever sell your machine used- you can easily transfer the warranty into the new owners name. If you have any problems or questions you can call me or call the Vita Mix 800 customer service number. If there are any initial problems with your machine call or email me right away. Sometimes a machine might not work right but you have a full guarantee. So don't hesitate if there is anything that doesn't seem right.

Subject: Robynn-Sorry about triple post... From: Kathy To: All Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 13:53:05 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: it wouldn't go, so I'd hit stop and try again...the guess what?! 3 times it went in...but now you know how to remove a post, I could tell you'd been here...Hey - it's going good....

Subject: Re: Robynn-Sorry about triple post... From: robynn To: Kathy Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 14:01:06 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Yes, as i hit the delete key I bit my lip and closed my eyes- afraid that I might delete everything below your post. The choices are a bit confusing. And in fact the BBS Editor has a warning signal, 'Choose carefully, these directions are a bit confusing but very powerful.'

Subject: any tips for a new owner From: Pamela To: All Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 11:53:07 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Hi, Robynn notifed me that my my new Vita Mix is in transit and it is expected here on Thursday. Since a few of you just got your machines and have been really busy using them- Do you have any tips to give me. Like the one direction you wish somebody had warned you about. Or the few things that you would you tell your best friend who just called you to say, her Vitamix just arrived, what do I do first? -Those kind of tips Please. Thanks for any help in advance.

Subject: Re: any tips for a new owner From: Robynn To: Pamela Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 13:35:32 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: NEVER NEVER Ever use the tamper to stir the ingredients with out the lid in place. It will chop up your tamper but quick!! You will think oh- I just want to get that thing on top pushed in, I won't go as far as the blades and then blszipz you have mangled the tamper. My son did it on about week three because he is a teenager who knew he could control the depth he pushed the tamper. Unlike his Mother who wanted to follow the directions. He did it once- when I yelled for him to stop- he did it again to prove to me that he knew exactly what he was doing and that did it. He was very sorry he didn't Know that it would happen.... I am telling you that it will happen!!!! New tampers don't cost a lot but you have to wait for them to be shipped. (About $10 new, Be careful.) Vita Mix says that is the most common problem people mangling their tampers exactly as I described.

Subject: Did this do any damage to the machine? (nt) From: Kathy To: Robynn Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 13:47:11 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: *

Subject: Re: Did this do any damage to the machine? (nt) From: robynn To: Kathy Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 14:09:19 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: No, Not in the least, just the tamper got mauled. They say at Vita mix that, (Don't do this at home Folks) they have actually put a 2 by 4 block of wood into the machine and made saw dust. I bet that would make a very scarry ruining the motor and blade sound.

Subject: Re: any tips for a new owner From: Dr. H. To: Pamela Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 12:58:27 (PDT) Email Address: drjamesh@aol.com Message: I just received mine...and had a great smoothie!...should have added a little honey or sugar...just a litttttle tart! :>

Subject: Re: any tips for a new owner From: Robynn To: Dr. H. Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 13:23:26 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Hi Dr.H. I'm glad to hear that your machine arrived. If your fruit isn't real sweet, besides adding sugar you can add sweeter fruit. I find adding frozen cherries adds the right amount of sugar, Mixed berries are nice too because they have the strawberries and blueberries in the mix. Pinapple is usually sweet and tangy it adds some pizzaz. Adding a touch of vanilla to the mostly orange drinks when you do add a little honey or sugar is usally quite delicious. Just go lightly as you get a feel for it. I like to take a finger swig taste from the tamper to make sure I have the right mix and then add a little of this or that to get the flavor right.

Subject: Bread tips... From: Kathy To: Robynn Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 13:40:43 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: don't know if you got the dry container...but if you did...when you grind your own grain...the flour is hot...that means you use cool water with the yeast...but if the flour is cold...use warm water...after a loaf that I killed the yeast with too hot of water...I grind the flour...and let it sit for a while...I take a cup and a 1/4 of water in a pyrex cup and heat in the microwave for about 60 seconds, add the yeast and the honey and let it sit for about 5 min, then add the water,honey,yeast mixture down the hole that forms when you grind the flour, add a tsp of lemon juice, and a tbl of oil...this has worked well for me...it took a while before I could tell what the dough should look like, (I add a tsp of salt to the grain when I grind it)...then you just put it in a pan, sprayed with vegetable spray, let it rise, I put it in a empty oven that I had heated on low for about 3 min...it takes 20-30 min to rise, also don't let it rise over the top of the pan, it will fall if you do...bake in 350 oven for about 35-40 min...then I run a knife around the edges to loosen, and it falls right out...the recipe I use is the one in the Getting Started book. 1 3/4 cup whole grain wheat, 1 tsp salt, 1 1/4 cup water, 1 pkg yeast, 1 tbl honey, 1 tsp lemon juice, 1 tbl oil....Good Luck! I buy the whole grain wheat at Whole Foods in the bulk section for 69 cents a pound, they also sell in packaged, it costs more that way...I think I am going to order the white wheat, it's listed on the back page of one of the books, as I can't find it in a store here...I have been using red wheat, which is excellent, but the while is supposed to be sweeter, and more mild...

Subject: What???? From: Kathy To: Kathy Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 13:42:44 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: the last line, the word is white, not while, I must neet to slow down....

Subject: Re: any tips for a new owner From: Dr. H. To: Robynn Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 13:35:09 (PDT) Email Address: drjamesh@aol.com Message: Robynn...Thanks for your help!...and the reply!

Subject: Re: any tips for a new owner From: Robynn To: Dr. H. Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 13:37:48 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: This is as god as a chat session- It is always fun to find someone online at exactly the same time

Subject: Whole Wheat Banana Bread... From: Kathy To: All Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 01:12:16 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: and the Cinnamon Raisin Bread that are in the Whole Food Machine (Whole Grain Cereals and Yeast Breads) Booklet are wonderful! made them both the other day...it was cold and rainy here, what else is there to do? If you need recipe, I'll post them...Try them!

Subject: New VitaMix Ordered From: Jody To: All/Robynn Date Posted: Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 17:15:21 (PDT) Email Address: jjean@mdn.net Message: Having just recently ordered my VitaMix (Apr. 1st) ... I can hardly wait to get it, especially after reading everyone's comments. I was originally looking to buy a juicer; sent for free info from Vitamix, Champion, Green Power, Juice America, etc. ... anyway, I was getting SO CONFUSED! But then Robynn e-mailed me on a post I had made regarding 'total juice' vs. 'pulpless juice'. She was the only one who answered my questions in detail. Plus she is so very friendly and helpful. I really look forward to getting my machine ... even tho I know there is a delay! Can't wait to make the puddings and salsa mentioned. Please keep posting ... all are very interesting to read! Jody

Subject: You're Gonna Love It! (nt) From: Kathy To: Jody Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 00:51:00 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: :)

Subject: So glad I got machine From: Carla To: All Date Posted: Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 14:49:16 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Hey there Robynn I have been out of town this is the first chance I had to drop by. Looking very good! I am so glad that I got my reconditioned unit before these shipping problems occurred. Anybody thinking about getting a refurbished unit but not sure- Mine arrived looking brand new no problems works fine. It works HELL-A-FINE!!! I took my Vita Mix with me to visit my Mother and now she wants one. She thought I was nuts when I told her how much it cost- That was before I brought and she got to try it. So we will be putting an order in as soon as the shipping mess is over. Please do keep us posted as to the shipping woes. Thanks a million I Love My Vita Mix!!!!!!!!

Subject: Re: So glad I got machine From: richard borden To: Carla Date Posted: Tues, Apr 14, 1998 at 10:25:22 (PDT) Email Address: richard.borden@nau.edu Message: Hey there Robynn I have been out of town this is the first chance I had to drop by. Looking very good! I am so glad that I got my reconditioned unit before these shipping problems occurred. Anybody thinking about getting a refurbished unit but not sure- Mine arrived looking brand new no problems works fine. It works HELL-A-FINE!!! I took my Vita Mix with me to visit my Mother and now she wants one. She thought I was nuts when I told her how much it cost- That was before I brought and she got to try it. So we will be putting an order in as soon as the shipping mess is over. Please do keep us posted as to the shipping woes. Thanks a million I Love My Vita Mix!!!!!!!! --- I am interested in where you got the refurbished Vita Mix and the model. Thanks, RB

Subject: Re: So glad I got machine From: Robynn To: richard borden Date Posted: Tues, Apr 14, 1998 at 14:37:06 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: Hi Richard, I now have refurbished units available. When we first communicated I didn't have access to them, They are shipped direct from Vita Mix just like the new machines. I got your emails I will send you a quote. I believe I have your state in old emails if not I will need that to get you a quote.

Subject: Mine is reconditioned too, Just Like BRAND NEW! From: Kathy To: Carla Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 00:48:23 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I wouldn't even know it was recondtioned, except the box said it was...It's just one that was returned, the containers are new...mine works great too. I am so glad I finally got it, I would have been really disappointed if there was a shipping problem...I had no problem at all...It's worth the wait everyone...

Subject: reconditioned unit orders From: robynn To: All Date Posted: Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 14:11:40 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: April 6,1998 Todays word on shipments direct from the VitaMix Corp headquarters is as follows: Here is the update on all reconditioned Vita Mix units. All orders for these reconditioned units are sitting with Vita Mix- They have temporarily run out of units and they cannot say when shipments will begin again. New machines are now shipping smoothly. They weren't shipping smoothly last week, because of large food service orders that were shipping first. --- --- --- --- --- --- - I have never had a problem with refurbished units interupt any of my shipments before- I have been told in the past that generally this situation rights itself quickly. I have watched it take no more than a week- then shipments picked up as normal. I have been lucky that my orders have gone in just after shipments resumed to normal status and none of my customers have had to wait. That is until NOW! I am very sorry for the delay. Vita Mix will not guarantee when this situation will be corrected.They cannot promise that it should only be X legnth of time- they don't want to be left holding the bag on unfufilled orders. Anyone who wants to upgrade their order to a new machine can do so, of course the $ difference would have to be paid. The change can be made at anytime before the actual shipment ships out. Sincerely, Robynn Bryar Brighter Ideas and Services

Subject: The BEST Potatoes!... From: Kathy To: All Date Posted: Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 23:51:58 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: These are so good!...All I did was peel and cut into chunks about 5 potatoes, placed them in the VitaMix up to the 5 cup mark, then added water to the 8 cup mark...turned in on Variable up to Highest, quickly, that fast, they were done! Then I poured them into a strainer, over the sink, and rinsed off all the starch, stirred and rinsed, them let them sit a little while, I them added the spices, I shook on some salt, pepper, Spice Hunter Clear Broth, garlic powder, and something I have, can't remember the name of it, but it's a blend of Herbs, stirred this all around in the strainer, this got the spices all over the potatoes, as well as squeezed out any remaining water, put some oil in my famous cast iron skillet (the thing is seriously 50+ years old) and covered for a few minutes (to speed cooking the potatoes), took the cover off and flipped them around every so often, til browned...I can't tell you how good they are! PS Just want to clarify, the skillet was my grandmothers, I'm not quite old enough to have had a skillet for 50 years

Subject: Re: The BEST Potatoes!... From: Dr. H. To: Kathy Date Posted: Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 12:45:06 (PDT) Email Address: drjamesh@aol.com Message: ...5 Secs at high? 10 sec? What was the consistancy...hash browns?

Subject: Gosh! - 5 sec... From: Kathy To: Dr. H. Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 01:04:43 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: It was really fast...container looks like just cloudy water, but when you dump it in the strainer, it's shredded potatoes, it's important to get the potatoes as dry as possible, that's why I just left them in the strainer, and stirred them a bit, if you stir them while frying them they kind of clump together, but if you brown them in one layer, and then just flip sections over, it's a different look, either way, they are excellent, quick, and easy clean up...I also used a non-stick skillet, with just a small amount of oil, they are more like hash browns with this skillet

Subject: what do you want here? Feedback From: Robynn To: All Date Posted: Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 17:46:57 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: Wow! Thanks for the overwhelming feedback and appreciation. So many of you have left posts and sent tons of email. I think that this bbs is off to a good start. I need some feed back for the future and direction of the bbs. (learning curve involved) What would you like to see at this site? What kind of related articles do you want to read and see? Tell me what you think would make this site perfect for you. I want this site to be interesting enough that all of you continue to come back and post. I think it is great when the bbs users become cyber friends. That is why this site is about vitamix use and related issues health and well being- because we are more than our vitamix machines we are people with interests problems and joys and see this as a place where we can help each other through issues that are inderectly related to VITA MIX 'N. I have made the assumption that most of us have purchased our expensive gizmo machines first and foremost to help us get healthy or stay healthy. So tell me what you think right here on the forum. Thanks, I look forward to hearing from all of you. P.s. if you have something that you think would be great to post such as a related page. please email it to me. Robynn

Subject: Recipes,Tips,Ideas... From: Kathy To: Robynn Date Posted: Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 23:56:45 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: This will help all of us who have the machine, as well as those who are considering getting one...I personally love to learn what others do...it may be something I haven't thought of, and like I said before...I would have loved to get this kind of information before I purchased

Subject: Re: Recipes,Tips,Ideas... From: Robynn To: Kathy Date Posted: Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 13:27:06 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: THANKS FOR THE INPUT KATHY So basically what we're doing now is what you want for now- If I understand you correctly. Please, Let me know in the future if you think of anything else.

Subject: It's Coming Together Great... From: Kathy To: Robynn Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 01:07:52 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Sharing, getting to know each other, health tips, reasons for wanting to change diet, that's what is happening already...Good Job Robynn....

Subject: Kinda like a Intenet VitaMix Cookbook...(nt) From: me again To: Kathy Date Posted: Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 23:59:49 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: :)

Subject: sorry...INTERNET... From: Oops! To: me again Date Posted: Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 00:01:31 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message:

Subject: Composting & Kitchen Cleanup From: Robynn To: All Date Posted: Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 00:58:28 (PST) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: Many of you have asked me about composting and how it is done. A lot of you are interested in composting with your Vita Mixes. The brochure that many of you have seen from the company describes how improved your soil can be when using the Vita Mix to grind your garbage. Vita Mix Corp recommends having a separate container lid and tamper. I do not have a separate container I don't add anything to my container that might contaminate it and I don't put rotten smelly garbage through it. If you would be doing that I would recommend the extra container. The best soil and gardens are full of worms the best way to bring worms is to feed them and they will come in droves. -Once you bring them- if you decide to fertilize with chemicals you will kill all your worms off. You'll want to go all organic and you will be amazed what will happen in a very short time. In as little as a week you will be amazed at the number of worms you have attracted to an area that you want to ammend. (Best time to start this project is now. This is mud season or the rainy season or California. Then you don't have to worry about keeping anything watered.) At the end of the day you will see it is possible to have quite a bit of worm food. Morning coffee grounds egg shells Morning smoothie- fruit peels, apple cores, banana peels (tomato plants love banana peels the best amendment you can give them) left over eggs, toast bits, juice remains, (don't use meat scraps) Evening drink fruit peels, peels from vegies, Onion skin, leftover vegies from plates, tea bags even the paper(remove the staple) milk from the bottom of the glasses- See where I am going with this. Each day a lot of garbage gets tossed into the trash can. The end of the week clean out of the fridge veg bin- everything that is just a little past eating toss it in, grind it up and dump it into your garden. I have a family of 4. I now save about 1/2 a garbage can full- that I am no longer throwing out-Those are scraps that now go back into the garden. I usually do not wait until the end of the day to swoosh up the peelings etc. I usually do it when I am done with making a container of juice. I have to clean out the Vita Mix anyway to make sure that it is ready to use the next time someone walks by. (That is a rule in our house) Before cleaning it I add about 2 cups of water throw in the peels or whatever grind it up on high and pour it into a container I keep near the sink. I add another couple of cups of water to the container turn it on high again which gets most of the pulp and garbage off of the container an out from the blades- pour that in with the scraps for the garden then clean up with a litle soap. The more water the better in with the slop you are composting it goes into the ground better. I routinely pour the scraps all over the yard at the base of plants in areas I am going to plant I don't generally do it all in one place but you can. I like to water it in when I have time or use a rake the next day and till it into the ground that keeps the smell down. another thing I do is cover and area with leaves. the leaves get stirred in with the smoosh and soon your plants will be strutting life like you haven't seen before. They love the worms coming around their roots. The worms aerate the ground. And the worm excrament is the best fertilizer you can use. Your ground will begin to look and feel richer your plants will be noticably bigger and fuller, with more flowers and more fruit. You will be throwing out less on trash day, and you will begin to feel connected to the your earth in a very special way. There is something that snaps loose in your brain when you begin to feed the ground that feeds you. You become connected. I know this sounds weird but it is very true. Gardening with the Vita Mix will be a very FRUITFUL experiment. You can also pour the very liquidy stuff on your outdoor potted plants- I have begun potting them with a few worms whenever I plant in a pot now. And then I feed those worms every couple of weeks. I make it one of the waterings now and then then stir in any chunks with a stick. You can literally let the worms do all the work for you softening the ground. The best way to start is to get a big bag of composted steer manure. Chicken is best but stinks to high heaven. Do this on a cool day or in the cool of the morning or evening and you won't hardly even smell it. Don't work with manure when the sun is hot or you will be sorry you started the project. You can dump garbage first splash it all around the area you are working with. Then dump on the manure- then cover with leaves or grass clippings if it is out back you don't have to cover it. Covering keeps the smell down. The grass adds nitrogen the leaves something else both are good and important. Then keep feeding and covering or rake in the garbage smoosh a bit. Water regularly worms love a damp place to live. Not flooded but they are happy in damp to wet dirt. In a week or so take a shovel out and dig in a bit you will be amazed at the number of worms you see. The worms will crawl all around eating the food and softening the ground. Especially if you are keeping the earth damp for them. What ever you plant will be very happy living with your worms. The worms also LOVE LOVE LOVE the manure that helps lure them on over to where you want them. They will turn that garbage and manure into BLACK GARDEN GOLD!

Subject: Re: Composting & Kitchen Cleanup From: Don To: Robynn Date Posted: Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 07:26:09 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Hi robynn, I talked to you about composting ppineapple tops. I talked to customer service at Vita-mix and they have started recommending to people NOT to do pineapple tops. Have you found a way to do it without the fibers wrapping around the bottom of the blade? Otherwise the composting is great! Here in the northeast (buffalo NY) its been cool and damp enough to just pour the slop on the worked up ground and the worms go nuts. Thanke for the help and the forum looks good. Believe me I am a computer programmer and there are a lot of web sites out there that look really bad. Don P.S. By the way Buffalo was the fifth snowiest city in New York this winter. Its really a great place to live

Subject: Re: Composting & Kitchen Cleanup From: robynn To: Don Date Posted: Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 15:31:07 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: No Don, I had the same problem with pinapple tops. So I gave up on those. I put them in the pet rat cage occasionally and let them have fun playing with them. Thats recylcling them at any rate. Glad you stopped by the forum. Thanks for the compliments.

Subject: Re: Composting & Kitchen Cleanup From: don To: robynn Date Posted: Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 16:10:04 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Robynn, How often do you reapply composting over the same area - every week, 2 weeks? Also do you follow Vitamix's advice putting cottonseed meal in with the raw material? Later, Don

Subject: Re: HOW OFTEN From: ROBYNN To: don Date Posted: Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 16:56:59 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: I have not added cottonseed meal. Vitamix sugests this for proper nitrogen. I use grass clippings periodically spread over the area as a mulch. I use leaves the next time I have them available. I dump the slurry of compost as often as I want to. I have no rule that I follow. The most important is that it breaks down the fastest when it is thin and watery. I like to take the hose to it and splash it around watering it into the dirt. Sometimes when I have dumped a bucket of slurry all in one place then covered with dirt I find it still there when I take a shovel to it a week or two later. I find more worms in the area when I have applied it in thinner layers or watered it in. BUT other times I pour a line 4 feet long. Cover with grass or leaves then pour another line the next day right next to it. Keeping the area damp is important that speeds the breakdown process everything halts when the moisture is gone. This time of year it is effortless to keep things damp- atleast in California. If you try the cottonseed let me know your results. I don't even know where you would buy that. I am having great results.

Subject: Re: HOW OFTEN From: DON To: ROBYNN Date Posted: Tues, Apr 14, 1998 at 13:41:07 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I really appreciate your quick response. I have no grass or leave clippings. I use a mulching lawnmower. I'll try it without cottonseed meal and let you know the differences. Cottonseed meal is available at any animal feed store. One more thing I notice a message about so many free trial days left, can you elaborate.

Subject: Re: HOW OFTEN From: Robynn To: DON Date Posted: Tues, Apr 14, 1998 at 14:47:01 (PDT) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: How does your mulching lawnmower work? does it mulch the clippings then spit them out back onto your lawn? If so you could rake up a pile of it to spread in your compost now and then. >free trial days left, can you elaborate. That is my tryout period for this bbs. Don't worry as soon as I call in my credit card # that will drop off. Everyone seems to be enjoying the forum- seems to be a success so I will be keeping it up. I am enjoying it too.

Subject: RE:Composting 101 cont. From: Robynn To: to all Date Posted: Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 21:11:24 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Worms cannot eat anything that isn't bacterialy active; that is, rotting. they derive the bulk of their nutrients from the bacteria and fungi they consume with rotting organic matter, in fact, not from the organic matter itself. As such, worms can be said to eat ANYTHING that was once living or part of a living thing. but, again, not till it begins to rot, which is a sign of bacterial activity. Meat scraps will decompose also but very slowly. They will cause your system to smell, and meat will draw wild animals who will dig it up and eat it. Artichoke leaves, pinapple skins, even potato peels and eggs shells will take much longer to breakdown than things like lettuce, peppers and melons which almost melt into your compost area. This isn't a problem however. It simply is. If it's imortant to you to have the material decomposed quickly then pureeing it is a good way of helping the porcess along. Pureeing before composting will cut months of time out of the process.

Subject: Re: RE:Composting 101 cont. From: Pandora To: Robynn Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 09:05:26 (PDT) Email Address: Pandora917@aol.com Message: So, you can blend banana peels in it? When pouring this compost in your garden, do you get a lot of ants?

Subject: Re: RE:Composting banana peels From: robynn To: Pandora Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 11:35:06 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: So, you can blend banana peels in it? When pouring this compost in your garden, do you get a lot of ants? --- I always cut banana peels in thirds before throwing into the vita mix because I don't want the legnthy fibers to tie around the blade. Seems like this must have bappened to me once or I wouldn't bother doing it- Now I'm auto pilot. You won't get extra ants. If ants are already present they will enjoy the digs the same as other bugs. I have thrown some bell pepper in a few times to discourage the ants. I don't worry about them if they aren't in a place that bothers me. Where I live there are so many ants anyway. Composting does encourage the natural pests that eat the garbage those are good -the things that eat the garbage won't be eating the live plants. Even the roly polly bugs who are often blamed for eating baby plants- if they have compostables to nibble they are very happy to add to the healthy improved soil by breaking down the organic garbage. Once it has gone through the vita mix it breaks down very quickly. And if you have watered it in to the soil and/ or covered it with a thin layer of soil or mulch you will be fine. I find that the best results are when the slurry of garbage goes down in thin watery layers. It disappears the quickest. Gets used practily immediatly. As for the tomato plants very good to place a banana peel in the hole covered by some soil below the roots of the banana. Helps keep them pest free. Amends the soil to give the tomato plant what it needs while it is growing. I have been getting as many banana peels into the tomato planting area (in my slurry) as possible- And I will still plant with the peel as I plant.

Subject: Tonights Juice From: Robynn To: All Date Posted: Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 23:49:31 (PST) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: Tonight I needed a juice boost- Orange Juice Vita Mix Style 1 large orange 1 large tangelo 2 oz of water about 4 small ice cubes (from store) Blended on VARIABLE speed 3 till all smooshed about 20-30 seconds -then raised to VARIABLE speed 4 till mixture looks pulverized but not whipped. About 20 seconds This made two giant mugs of very tangy yummy pulpy juice. If you don't go for all the pulp in your drink it can be strained out. It tastes so good sometimes I strain it for the kids then eat the juicy pulp with a spoon- I hate to waste that good stuff. This is the best in your blood stream instant perk drink. The weird thing to remember about oranges when you are making just a citrus drink (no other fruits or ingredients) like the one above- you never want to whip it on high. It gets full of air and doesn't even taste like an orange anymore. You can make delicious orange julius drinks those you whip- and add vanilla extract too. I'll post that another day. A little fresh pineapple is the trick to get the perfect exact flavor I remember from my childhood. (But the Vita Mix OJs are good for you)

Subject: These tips are great! From: Kathy To: Robynn Date Posted: Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 11:35:33 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: thanks for the tip on orange juice...I make one with a couple of valencia oranges, some fresh tangerine juice, then I add a scoop of vanilla powder, that I buy at Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf...a little ice....a Great Orange Julius!

Subject: High speed blending tip From: Robynn To: All Date Posted: Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 20:01:12 (PST) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: When you turn the machine on from a stopped motor to on HIGH there is a surge that sends the container contents into the lid.- To avoid this surge start by using VARIABLE#1, quickly increase the speed to #10, then switch to HIGH. Happy Vita Mix'n

Subject: Vita Mix order delays From: Jerry To: All Date Posted: Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 12:13:07 (PST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I tried to order a Vita Mix recently from the company too. I wanted a new machine and they told me that there was an indeffinite wait time before they would ship mine. I was told that because there were lots of large orders that shipping dates could not be promised at all.There was some sort of a backorder on some of the machines and she couldn't tell what was up with the shipping. She didn't know when the current orders would be filled because of the backorder. I put in my order but then looked around on the internet and found postings about Brighter Ideas everywhere. Once I found out that the price was cheaper I decided if I had to wait I might as well get a better price too. Robynn was very nice explaining that she had only become aware of the shipping problem and said that she would do her best to get the order out as quickly as possible. She asked me to post and let everyone know what my experience with Vita Mix had been like. To let you all know that the waiting time for shipping is company wide and not just for Robynn's customers- I am sure that this is a temporary problem. Jerry

Subject: Wow! I am so glad I got mine 1 1/2 weeks ago... From: Kathy To: Jerry Date Posted: Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 17:17:44 (PST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I did order a reconditioned one...same warranty...new containers...and everything else that comes with the new...I didn't have to wait at all...sorry you have to wait....

Subject: Delay From: Dr. H. To: All Date Posted: Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 06:32:47 (PST) Email Address: drjamesh@aol.com Message: Robynn..I understand the delay...before I called you and ordered my machine...I had ordered one directly from the company for a ship date on the first of April...they said that it would be at least a week before shipping due to a large order being processed...so no problem I cancelled my order and ordered from you saving money and time...I wish it had arrived friday but I'm looking forward to the beginning of the week. Thank you for all your help and this wonderful web site Dr. H.

Subject: You're Gonna LuvIt!... From: Kathy To: Dr. H. Date Posted: Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 11:08:19 (PST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I've had mine for about a week and a half...when I ordered I wanted it right away...actually I wanted it for about 6 months before that...anyway I have used it everyday...the bread is incredible...have made loaves for friends...it is so easy to use and clean up...today I think I'm going to try a new bread recipe...don't know which one yet...the one thing I haven't gotten 'right' is a hot vegetable soup that I really look forward to, I still need to get the combination right...I've been making it...just so I get all the benfit...but I need to find one that I really look forward to, all the whole fruit juices I've made have all been great...I try to have fruit in the morning and a vegetable drink in the afternoon, with some bread...it's wonderful...last night I made Tofu Alfredo Sauce and put it over fettucini with some vegetables... Wonderful...Easy...Easy Cleanup...and Lots Less Fat...I would never eat regular Alfredo Sauce...You're Gonna LuvIt!

Subject: Welcome From: Karin To: All Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 17:50:42 (PST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Robyn, Thanks alot for this page. I too only recently bought a Vita-Mix and had looked for comments on the Net prior to buying. There were not many. This will be helpful for those still contemplating the investment. I love my Vita-mix. My husband says I should do commercials I get so excited about it. Only flub so far was shredding potatoes for hash browns. Don't do on High! We had potatoe pancakes and I only had it on for about 20 seconds. My favorite thing to make is the fruit smoothies. I too drink one every morning. Just bought a recipe book on just Smoothies. It suggests buying fruit and freezing it...even apples. I'm going to the store tomorrow and will be chopping fruit all afternoon to freeze. Also looking forward to composting with it. Just starting collecting rinds, leftovers, etc. to mix up my first batch tomorrow. Also love to make soup. Will keep you informed and send any great Smoothie recipes I come across. Again thanks for the page. Look forward to interacting with all of you. Karin

Subject: Re: Hi Karin From: Pandora To: Karin Date Posted: Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 09:14:20 (PST) Email Address: Pandora917@aol.com Message: I make a smoothie every morning too. It's like my 'coffee.' I dump a scoopful of soy protein shake in it also for added nutrients and a creamy texture. I also grabbed a menu from a local juice bar and now I can make all of their shakes in the comfort of my own home!!

Subject: Nice to see you here... From: Kathy To: Pandora Date Posted: Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 11:11:36 (PST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: this is great...my computer time is almost over...I have to limit my time as it can be addicting! I'm going to try the sauce you posted...sounds good!

Subject: Good Job From: Dr James H To: All Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 17:17:36 (PST) Email Address: drjamesh@aol.com Message: Great Job Robynn...Looking forward to my Vita-Mix coming next week. Dr. H.

Subject: Hi Robynn From: Pandora To: All Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 16:31:06 (PST) Email Address: Pandora917@aol.com Message: Thought I'd mosey on over from VegSource and poke my head in. I LOVE my VM. It was worth the money. I had been wanting one but was hesitant. I finally saw a demo for it at a fair, and that was it. I had to have it. Here is a really yummy sauce I like to make. You can pour it over grains, pasta, veggies, I even used it to make white enchiladas before. Super Sauce 8 oz Silken soft tofu 1/2 tsp Dried thyme 1 Tbl Liquid Aminos 1 c Very hot vegetable broth 1 Tbl Tahini 1 Tbl Nutritional yeast flakes 1 Garlic clove Dash Red chile flakes (optional) Blend in blender until smooth and hot.

Subject: WONDERFUL FRUITY ICE CREAM From: Ally To: All Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 16:05:33 (PST) Email Address: CuttieGirl@hotmail.com Message: I love the vita mix. And I'm only 12. I always make wonderful fruity ice creams, with friut, (with the vita mix). And it only takes a few minutes. I also love making snowcones. First you buy the syrup. Then you use the vita-mix for the snow (ice). You add a lot of ice or however much you want. Then just pour in water just above the ice levl, and turn it on for, four (4) seconds. And the ice is done! All you have to do now is strain it and you have snow cone ICE!!!!!!

Subject: Thanks for the tip.... From: Kathy To: Ally Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 20:19:48 (PST) Email Address: mcmahon1@earthlink.net Message: That was so nice of you to share that with us, and it's also so nice to know that someone as young as you is interested in making food...

Subject: Re: Thanks for the tip.... From: Ally To: Kathy Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 00:23:46 (PDT) Email Address: CuttieGirl@hotmail.com Message: Thank you for your reply, Ally, 12.

Subject: You're So Sweet! From: Kathy To: Ally Date Posted: Tues, Apr 07, 1998 at 00:58:04 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I love kids...where do you live Ally? what grade are you in? I think it's so good that you cook, and use the computer...I have two daughters, but they are grown, 23 and 24 years old, in fact I am using my oldest daughters computer right now...Send us some more recipes OK?

Subject: Chocolate Tofu Pudding From: Kathy To: All Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 13:26:37 (PST) Email Address: mcmahon1@earthlink.net Message: Chocolate Tofu Pudding 10.5 oz. block lite Mori-Nu tofu 1/4 cup evaporated milk or soy milk 5 tablespoons margarine, melted 2 squares semisweet chocolate 1/3 cup granulated sugar 1 teaspoon vanilla Place all ingredients in the wet blade container in the order listed. Secure complete two-part lid. Select HIGH, and run machine 1 1/2 to 2 minutes until smooth. Pour into serving dishes, and chill thoroughly or overnight. Makes 3 cups The tofu I used was slightly larger 12 oz (I think) it was Mori-Nu lite extra firm (that was what I had on hand) I also melted the chocolate with the margarine in the microwave...also I used unsweetened chocolate (that was what I had) this made a very rich pudding, next time I'll try semisweet. This is really good, and very easy.... I also made a vanilla iced blended mocha in the container after I made the pudding, this used up the pudding in the container I couldn't get out...and made a really tasty mocha....

Subject: Help From: Jay To: All Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 11:15:35 (PST) Email Address: Jwins58448.aol.com Message: I own a TNC and I love it. Could someone explain to me why many so called health gurus speak negative concerning the our machine while speaking on a positive aobout other juicers. Doesn't it makes sense to eat whole fruit the way the good Lord intended it to be eaten?. Total juice is the reason that I purchased a Vitamix.

Subject: They're trying to sell juicers?... From: Kathy To: Jay Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 12:21:38 (PST) Email Address: mcmahon1@earthlink.net Message: I think you have to decide for yourself...I also purchased one because I also believe the whole food is better than just the juice, the fiber for one thing...A juice extractor takes so much produce to make a glass of juice...I still own a juiceman, I put it in the back of a cupboard, but I kept it because I'm not sure I will never use it again...it is such a PAIN to use and clean, there are probably some illnesses where your sysytem can't handle the fiber, and just the juice would be easier on your digestive system, but I don't plan on that happening to anyone in my family, I am a vegetarian, which sounds like I must eat really healthy all the time, but truth is there are days when I don't, or my family doesn't, so my rationalization was that if we had a whole fruit juice in the morning and a cup of vegetable soup in the afternoon, we would get our 5 a day in and it would be enjoyable and easy....I am so happy I made the decision to get this machine...all the people I have made a whole fruit drink for are amazed, because they watch what goes in and the drink is wonderful...the juice alone is also such a burst of sugar all at one time...I just can't see how it would be better....Enjoy!

Subject: sorry no tips, just hi Robynn! From: Darcie To: All Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 10:28:00 (PST) Email Address: dk631@connect.ab.ca Message: Hi Robynn. Congratulations, your did a great job! Darcie

Subject: looks great From: Beverly To: Robynn Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 09:59:17 (PST) Email Address: cookbevsez@hotmail.com Message: Looks great...I knew you could do it. Round Table Kitchen 209.204.195.23/mother1/mother2.html

Subject: Great Web Board From: Mariam To: All Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 08:58:55 (PST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: When I was debating whether or not to invest in a vitamix, I repeatedly searched the web for customer comments. I found a few but not as many as now. Great work Robynn! By the way, have you checked if this site comes up when you do a vitamix search in the major search engines?

Subject: Re: Not yet that is next From: robynn To: Mariam Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 09:09:01 (PST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: No I am sure that it doesn't, not yet. Search engines are the next thing I have to learn. Which include learning how to write hidden messages that only the search engines can see and that is how they will find us. If I write an exceptional Meta Tag.

Subject: Great Idea.... From: Kathy To: robynn Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 10:30:17 (PST) Email Address: mcmahon1@earthlink.net Message: I also looked all over for comments from people who had a VitaMix, that's why I asked the question on vegsource...and I did get answers...this would have been exactly what I was looking for...

Subject: Dumbest thing I ever tried in my VM From: Lucky To: All Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 10:54:34 (EST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Okay to answer the default question- The dumbest thing I ever did with my VM. When I first got it I decided to make cookies thinking my machine could do anything. I should have known better- I dumped and entire pound of butter into the container with no other wet ingredients and tried to cream the butter. The motor of course overheated pretty quickly. I thought I had ruined my machine. I called Robynn immediately in tears. She told me not to worry that the machine shuts itself off if it gets too hot, to protect the motor. She assured me that it would work again. I didn't believe her, and I didn't even try it again, until Robynn called me back the next day. She wanted to know if I had finished my cookies- and if the machine was okay. I tried it while she was on the phone and it really was okay. So take it from me don't cream something like butter without some wet ingredients in the container. It isn't worth the heart failure. Lucky

Subject: Re: Dumbest thing I ever tried in my VM From: Mariam To: Lucky Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 13:54:22 (PST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: For quick breads, cakes, brownies etc. I usually blend all the wet ingredients plus sugar in my vitamix and stir in the dry ingredients by hand. My Vitamix died on me once too but that was when making my own recipe of icecream.

Subject: Re: Dumbest thing I ever tried in my VM From: Lucky To: Mariam Date Posted: Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 02:59:14 (PST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: It sounds like you use the machine alot for quick mixes- Do you have a trick to get all the ingredients out of the blender. I made a brownie mix then ended up with tons of the globby stuff inside the container. My kids didn't mind (they licked it clean) but I would rather not loose so much before cooking.

Subject: Re: Dumbest thing I ever tried in my VM From: Mariam To: Lucky Date Posted: Sun, Apr 05, 1998 at 16:19:22 (PDT) Email Address: Not Provided Message:

Subject: Chili pepper tip From: Robynn To: All Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 08:58:42 (EST) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: Pepers: Unless you want your mouth to be ON FIRE! You will most likely want to reduce the pepper's potency. Remove the inner ribs, membranes and seeds before tossing into your Vita Mix. Another way is to soak the chiles in salted ice water or milk for an hour. If you decide to be as daring as my 15 year old son was be ready with sour cream or yogurt to cool your mouth. Sorry I don't know the vegitarian way to cool off your palete after peppers. Does anyone else know? I suggest going very lightly with the ribs and seeds if you must try them. Sparingly- they go along way once they have been through the Vita Mix!! Ye-ow! You should have seen my son run through the house looking for anything (there were no milk products in the fridge)- and accidentally there was a fake sour cream- It was useless against the peppers!

Subject: I Know...I Made Salsa... From: Kathy To: Robynn Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 10:19:27 (PST) Email Address: mcmahon1@earthlink.net Message: The salsa was great! I used 1 serrano chili and couldn't believe how hot it was...When I bought the ingredients for the salsa I bought 2 serranos because I know from being a checker that 1 isn't enough to weigh...the scale won't register, I probably paid about 7 cents for 2 chilis, what a bargain...I am probably going to make some more today...I also poured the salsa thru a strainer after I made it because it was a little foamy in the VitaMix, and we like it kinda dry, so we can scoop it up on a chip...it was so fast and easy to make...I got the recipe off of the video I received with the machine...it was 4 or 5 Roma tomatoes, cut in half, a piece of onion, I thru in a clove of garlic, a small hand of cilantro, 1 serrano chili, a squeeze of 1/2 a lemon and 1 tsp of salt...how easy is that!

Subject: I Checked the price of wheat... From: Kathy To: All Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 03:47:53 (EST) Email Address: mcmahon1@earthlink.net Message: I paid 69 cents a pound for red wheat...I bought 3 pounds for about $2.00, that makes a lot of bread. I made a terrific chocolate tofu pudding today, it's so rich! If anyone wants the recipe, let me know.

Subject: I posted this before I read Robynn's post below... From: Kathy To: Kathy Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 04:25:38 (EST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: She did a great job, didn't she? :)

Subject: Re: I posted this before I read Robynn's post below... From: RB To: Kathy Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 08:46:25 (EST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Actually you did such a great job typing up that pudding recipe at VegSource maybe you would like to cut and paste it on our forum too. That would be great.

Subject: message I received today From: Robynn To: All Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 03:42:03 (EST) Email Address: rbyryar19@idt.net Message: I received this message today from Kathy in my email. I will post some pudding recipes including this one soon. Anyone who wants to post recipes please do so. Then when I learn how to link pages I will post them so that they are easy to find and print. Kathy's note: I made tofu pudding that is really chocolately, I can't even eat a whole cup of it...it's very good though...then I made my daughter a mocha, like you suggested, it was a vanilla mocha with the leftover pudding left in the container after making the tofu pudding, Really Good! Thanks for that idea also... I love this machine...in fact my daughters friend just came over and said...I don't hear the blender going...that's because I just got home from work...I used it today!... I think the board is really good...it's what I was looking for...sharing things that we do with the machine... I think we'll all grow with you...you are doing a great job...and I for one am a very happy customer...I would recommend anyone going through you...In fact I have a young friend coming by to see it, as she plans to move out on her own soon, and was wondering if it would be useful to her...I told her absolutely, as she is a young lady who makes her own food...so keep up the good work...it's a good board...we'll just all be around to watch it get better... Thanks again for the tofu/soy booklet...it's much appreciated.....Kathy

Subject: Hi Robynn - Great Idea !!! From: Jack To: All Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 02, 1998 at 15:53:54 (EST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Hi Robynn - I just wanted to stop by to say Hi and to wish you well with your new Web Page and Message Forum. They are beginning to look good. I am not familiar with Vita Mix - so I look forward to learning more about it in the future - right here - on your Forum - a great idea indeed. Best wishes - Jack

Subject: I love my vitamix From: Mariam To: All Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 02, 1998 at 15:00:07 (EST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I mainly use my vitamix for drinks, soups and purees. I also use it for making curry ... onions, tomatoes, garlic, ginger, greenchillies, spices are completely blended and smooth, curry takes less time to cook and I can make it low-fat or fat-free as I please (traditionally the ingredients need to cook in oil to get throughly soft and mashed) Chopping onions and making ground beef and such is not as easy because you can do only small amounts at a time plus it is hard to get every bit out. The food processor seems better for these tasks. Has anyone tried the vitamix neova cookware? What do you think of it?

Subject: Still Laughing From: Robynn To: All Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 02, 1998 at 14:37:09 (EST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I found this on a friends web page - I found it very amusing. There are few posts loosly related to food: (store hours at a veg stand) And an animal shelter now chineese food establishment- please feel free to post humorous antidotes and fun things in with your Vita Mix posts. Thanks Jack for the following: I found these on the Net - no comment In Florida I saw a billboard advertising, 'Decoy Baptist Church.' Were they afraid that some hostile Methodists may show up? I was reading the want ads looking for a job. I can across a job description for the government. The article read as follows: Government Employer looking for candidates. Criminal Background required. My brother and I were driving downtown to see a play and we passed a sign that read, 'NO PARKING IN PARKING LOT' Seen in a travel brochure for a place in Nova Scotia: 'Don't take a chance on ruining your vacation - come to us and be sure.' At a Ryan's Steakhouse in St. Louis I noticed a rather humorous sign posted inside the restaurant. It stated that, 'All children must be accompanied by an adult to all bars.' In Grand Prairie, Texas, there is an actual one-way street named 'Wong Way'. Sign in a jewelry store in Owen Sound Ont. 'Ears pierced while you wait'  I once saw a marque sign for a chain resteraunt in Chicago that proclaimed 'Try our 5 new traditional diners.'  Sign seen in front of a law office 'No Soliciting.'  Sign on Interstate 85 in Durham, NC.  NC School of Science & Math.  Guess Road  My family and I were driving to my cousin's funeral when we past by a barber shop. On the window they had a sign that said 'Sorry We're Open'.  'Want to learn to read? Call 1-800-PHONICS.'  I was driving through Webb City, MO and found a Chinese restaurant called the 'House of Hu?'  Further, in Springfield, MO a wonderful little second hand store known as the 'STD flea market' keeps fellow Springfieldians in stitches.  Trying to find a hotel to spend the night in SLC, Utah my sister and I came across a sign on a Holiday Inn Billboard:.....'Continental Breakfast, eat free kids.' Yummy!!!!  There is a Deli in my neighborhood with a sign in the window which reads: OPEN 25 HOURS.  Stupid advertisment on a hardware billboard sign in Newport, Oregon: 'Handyman Studs - $2 for $3'. No wonder Newport is a such a popular tourist destination with prices like these!  I visited a '1$ store' somewhere and there were signs saying 'NOTHING OVER A 1$' and 'EVERYTHING 1$ OR LESS' and then there was another sign that said 'SOME ITEMS MAY BE OVER A 1$'.  I have seen stickers on the drive-thru window at McDonald's saying 'Warning: Hot Chocolate and Hot Coffee are served HOT'.  On a bucket of kitty litter, the warning label reads: CHILDREN CAN FALL INTO BUCKET AND DROWN. How can someone possibly drown in kitty litter?!  List of ingredients on a bag of celery and carrot sticks we got at work.  Carrots and celery.  In the visor that you put on your wind-sheild there's a warning that says: DO NOT USE WHILE DRIVING!!!  While looking through the Safeway sale ads, I saw a coupon that said, 'Stock up and save. Limit one.'  I was in the car on my way to Saskatchewan. When we reached the Saskatchewan border there is a big sign that says 'Welcome to SASKETCHEUAN'.  I recently passed a night club called 'Embers' which was temporarily closed due to fire.  I saw a sign in a restroom that said 'Do not eat the urinal blocks.' There is a funeral home near Appomatax, Va called 'Bruce and Stiff Funeral Home'. I wonder who greets the guest at the front door?  Okay, it's more amusing than actually stupid, buut...On a small, family-owned deli window, rather than arranging for enough letters, a simple re-arranging works: During business hours: OPEN..and at night: NOPE.  A sign seen at a bar in Jacksonville AL, 'ABANDONED VEHICLES WILL BE TOWED AT OWNERS EXPENSE'  I live in New Hampshire, and the power often goes out during snow storms. We had a pretty bad storm one year and the power was out for 6 days. When my power came back on and I was watching the news, I saw a listing on the bottom of the screen saying: 'If your power is out, call this number...'  In Ferndale, MI there is a foot doctors office that has a sign reading - 'Walk in Emergency'  On the voter registration card for the state of Tennessee, there is printed 'Information for the Blind Voter.' Uh, hello?  My wife and I noticed these signs while in Sikeston,Missouri. There is a hearing aid store next to a dry cleaners, and thier signs are butted up against one another. They read:'Miracle Ear''Cleaners' Has someone invented a better Q-tip?  I once saw a sign that said 'Animal shelter closed , Chinese Resterant now open '  Recently, a 'want ad' appeared in the Los Angeles Times with the following header: 'WE DAMAND EXCELLENCE!'  When I was in Georgia to see my cousin we went to a store called Year Round Produce. When we got there we saw that there was a sign that said 'Sorry, Year Round Produce is closed for the winter.'  I'm walking along, right? And I see this road sign under a bridge:WHEN THIS SIGN CANNOT BE READ OR SEEN, THIS AREA HAS BEEN FLOODED.!  Name of a beauty salon in Tombstone, Arizona CURL UP AND DYE.  Sign a few years ago in Salem OR. FREE LUNCHES NOW 75 CENTS  Last time we visited the backcountry reservation office at the Grand Canyon they had a display up about hypthermia. Listed on the side were several things you can do if you get hypothermia. The final one said 'If unconcious call ranger immediately'. I'll remember that next time I am unconcious.  At a local cemetary a sign reads: White Cemetary.  There is a sign right next to it that reads:  DEAD END.  I was at a office and I saw a sign that said Parking for Customers That Work Here  As a kid in southern Idaho, my family would go driving out to the desert. A rusted sign for a auto repair shop also reminded you to: Beware of white horses in snowstorms.  At a school play ground the bushes had grown up to cover the last 2 words so it read: NO GOLFING ANIMALS.  It was supposed to read: NO GOLFING ANIMALS SKATEBOARDS ALLOWED  Recently I saw a sign in front of a store that read: 'New Antiques'.  On a recent roadtrip, we went through the town of Melrose, NM. There is a sign that used to say 'Welcome to Melrose, A Nice Place To Live' but the word'nice' has been blotted out, so now it just reads,'Welcome to Melrose, A Place To Live.'  I saw a sign in front of an office complex.sign that read, 'Will build to suit - Free Standing Available Also'  I frequently pass a $.99 store on the East side of Hollywood, CA., that has me and all friends who pass laughing out loud. The big sign out front reads: '99 Cent -More or Less- Store.'  If that's the definition of a 99 cent store, couldn't Bergdorf-Goodman's or Tiffany's be included?  A sign in an office: Turn off coffepot after every lunch and break.  I lived in Grand Forks ND for a few years and on the main road through town, US Highway 2, there is a sign that reads 'School for the Blind next Right'  There is a Waffle House, that I frequent, that has the 'W' burnt out. With out the 'W' the sign reads Affle House.  About a week ago I was riding in my car through the great state of Minnesota. I saw a sign that cracked me up so bad! It said on it, 'Please leave the roadkill alone'! It was so funny! Who is going to pick up roadkill in the first place?  In Dickinson, Texas, there is a, 'gentlemen's club' called Heartbreakers. On a very large and very noticeable billboard above the club sign is an advertisement for a local church...'Jesus Heals the Brokenhearted.' I laugh everytime I pass it!      In Spain (sign in English): No parking on alternate Thursdays    I work at an engraving store in local mall. We once engraved a sign saying 'Please do not place anything in toilets other then toilet paper'  I was at the University of Houston last week, and I saw a sign on the GROUND FLOOR that said 'In case of fire, do not use elevators.'  Last year while doing a private detail job at a prison in Massachusetts, I noticed a posted sign on the barbed wire fence surrounding the buildings housing the cellblock. Mind you, this was on the OUTSIDE LOOKING IN. It read: 'No Trespassing' How many times do people try to break INTO jail?  (Jack's page)Our Porch www.paradise-web.com/plus/plus.mirage?who=ourporch

Subject: This is Great! From: Kathy To: All Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 02, 1998 at 12:54:10 (EST) Email Address: mcmahon1@earthlink.net Message: First of all I want to say that this is going to be a great help...we can all share!...Thanks Robynn!...Why I love my VitaMix...I have only had it a week and one day....these are the things I've done so far...Smoothies...Whole Fruit Juice....About 6 loaves of bread...brought 2 to work for friends yesterday...hash browns (grated the potatoes)...tofu pudding....oh...pancakes...I make them ahead, keep them in the refrigerator, and we just heat them in the microwave...Hot Soup...Iced Blended Mochas...Salsa...And I am still learning...Everything has turned out great! I wanted a VitaMix for over 6 months...it took me a long time to decide to make the investment...I am so glad I did...it's quick, it's easy, I can't believe the bread making...took me no more than 15 min to get two loaves of bread ready yesterday...with no mess to clean up...just whirl a little hot soapy water in the VitaMix and rinse out...and put the salt, oil and honey away...I am buying whole grain wheat in bulk...don't even know what I paid...I'll check it out next time...but it's not very much...What I'd like to learn here is what other's do with their machines...as I am just new to VitaMix'n...Here's one thing I also do...I buy my dog dry dog food, but he likes something in it...so I have been buying him cans of vegetarian dog food ('cause I can't stand the smell of the others)...and it's made of rice and vegetables...anyway I cook a big pan of rice, and make a Hot Soup out of vegetables I have on had, mix it into the rice and keep it in the refrigerator...so much cheaper than canned food and so much better for Bubba and he loves it! (he's a really BIG dog...so he eats alot) So let's all share what we do with our machines...Thanks again Robynn...this is going to be fun!

Subject: Re: This is Great! From: Rochelle To: Kathy Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 02, 1998 at 17:56:57 (EST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I also love the vita mixer. I have it for about 1 month and love to make juice. Does anyone have a good salsa or soup recipe?

Subject: My Old Vitamix From: Eileen To: All Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 02, 1998 at 08:03:19 (EST) Email Address: tidwellent@aol.com Message: I don't even remember how old my Vitamix is. I got it years ago and it is a faithful workhorse. I really enjoy grinding my own wheat and making bread with it. The basic whole weat recipe is a heavy bread and is very good toasted with butter! UmmmmmYumm! When I got my machine, you could order wheat in a 5 gallon bucket, which I did. I am still using that wheat. It has stayed fresh and good all this time because it is whole. I also make cole slaw by throwing in cabbage and water, buzzing it up, and straining the water out. Things like that are so easy with this machine. And trust me, you can't do with blenders and food processors what you can do with a Vitamix. OK, now Vitamix Corp., you owe all of us here on RB's forum SOMETHING for our loyalty! LOL!!! www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/6732/family.jpg

Subject: Vita Mix From: Karen To: All Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 02, 1998 at 07:24:58 (EST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I get to be the first to answer the question of the week- what was it?- Oh yes, I love my VM mostly because- This is probably not glamorous but I love the Vita Mix because my teeth aren't what they used to be. I can make chicken salad and meat sandwiches that taste scrumptious and I can eat the meat that way. I can't chew meat anymore. But when I run my meat through the VitaMix with some of the pan drippings or gravy- It is quick, delicious, and sastisfying. it isn't at all like eating babyfood. I run on the lowest number I can get away with.(between 2 and 4) My husband's favorite use of the machine is making the icecreams.

Subject: Re: Vita Mix From: Sue To: Karen Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 02, 1998 at 07:40:03 (EST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: I have heard that you can actually make fresh hamburger with the Vita Mix. Have you tried that too? I use my vitamix so much it is hard to say what is my favorite thing to use it for. but I am going to say the morning smoothy drinks. It is important as the morning shower before going off to work. I take a huge plastic cup full with me in the morning in the car. It both wakes me up and soothes me while giving me a great vitamin boost. Early in the morning you can feel the fruit energy coursing through your veins. That is my favorite!! It brings me to life in the morning. Speaking of which it is shower time.

Subject: Vita Mix'n Welcome From: Robynn To: All Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 02, 1998 at 06:20:56 (EST) Email Address: rbryar19@idt.net Message: Welcome i hope you enjoy and come back a lot. Please bare with me as I learn how to run this forum- learn html- and figure out how to make this a bit fancier. Feel free to EMAIL me with your likes and dislikes Just don't expect instant fixes because I am learning here. Feed back is good!! So let me have it. Thanks. I hope you all enjoy. It has been hard work getting this far. Trying to set up web pages has made me feel like a VIRTUAL IDIOT. I have made several pages with working links that were very pretty but I can't figure out how to make them work out here in cyber-space. Expect lots more to come as I figure this out. Robynn Bryar Brighter Ideas and Services

Subject: Re: Vita Mix'n Welcome From: Eileen To: Robynn Date Posted: Thurs, Apr 02, 1998 at 08:09:27 (EST) Email Address: tidwellent@aol.com Message: Robynn, one thing that may help you is to right click on pages you find interesting, and then choose 'view source' and it will bring up the html codes for that page. You can even save it to a file it you like, and go thru it and see how the different codes affect the appearance of the page. There is a great book on doing HTML entitled 'Teach Yourself HTML 3.2 in 24 hours' by Dick Oliver, available at Sam's Club. It is SO good and altho I have not used it as directed, i.e., a lesson a day...I learn from it almost daily. I just skip around in it and find what I need to know in any given situation. Get it, it will really give you confidence. There are some good sites on the internet, too, but my computer crashed and I don't have those links. You can search, using HTML in the search string and find lots of them, tho. There is one somewhere called 'The 10 Commandments of HTML' that is really good. Hang in there. A year ago I don't think I even knew what HTML stood for! LOL!

Subject: Re: Vita Mix'n Welcome From: Robynn To: Eileen Date Posted: Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 08:55:00 (PST) Email Address: Not Provided Message: Well as you can see I have made a lot of changes just since yesterday. Thank you for the pointers and the urls. I have spent many hours there- I need a Chiropractor now for my neck and shoulders.