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The moving, stirring song "Mansions of the Lord" was sung by the West Point Glee Club
during the credits of the 2002 movie starring Mel Gibson -
"We Were Soldiers"
which chronicled the leadership of Lt Col Harold Moore, 1/7th Cavalry U.S Army,
in one of the first major battles of the Viet Nam War
the Battle of Ia Drang on November 14–16, 1965,
also heard from the movie is the dirge
"Sgt. MacKenzie"
Written by Joseph Kilna MacKenzie
It was also played at Ronald Reagans Memorial Service
Lyrics to these songs are found
Here
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Thank You for the Award
Click Here for The Australian Artillery - Viet Nam Page
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Before we get to my Dedication to those who have given ALL for us
Please take a moment at these sites
Above is one more way I can help others
If the Back Ground is Yellow there is an active Amber Alert
which means there is a child missing or abducted
Please see my page linked below
To Stop Missing and Abducted Women and Children
******
Help Find Missing and Abducted women and children ****** As we head toward the Winter of 2009 Bill Papa's 41st anniversary of his death was on May 5th 2009 What surprised me is so many young people don't know This page is dedicated to ALL the boys and girls who have been taken from us BUT especially to: my boyhood friends who were Viet Nam Soldiers Lets also not forget those who served and survived - Our Veterans All of these are responsible for our nation as it is today Another startling fact as of 2009 - if you accept that 18 years old is the age of being able to join the armed services - The youngest to legally serve in Korea is 74 *** My name is Bill Tomsick, Cape Coral FL, - Parma, OH, ~~~~~~~~ There is a New Viet Nam Wall Memorial I will post more soon The New Memorial is located just two miles
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~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ Now to the main reason for this page I also remember Cleveland Patrolman Fred Vacha and other High School classmates I have put THIS memorial to them on the net In addition - From March 21st 2003 to Aug 20th 2009 ( Thats about approx 2340 days ) This page is dedicated to the men and women who served in Viet Nam, Iraq, Afganistan, I know they are in Heaven watching over and protecting us, I have included others here too ~~~~~~~~~ In addition - Sgt. Steve Lintl whom I never met but ~~~~~~~ There are boys who died from my alma mater ~ I also attended St Ignatius High School from Sept 1961 to Feb 1964 ~~~~~~~ My schoolmates who were killed in Viet Nam are: ANYONE wishing to add information or a name or story / tribute to a friend ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was contacted by a man named Perry Betts from Chatanooga, Tenn. on April 3rd 2009 His website is
geared to helping others too and offers the following: Fisher House organization is a non-profit that helps families of wounded military personal. They provide a similar service to Ronald MacDonald House BUT for soldiers and their families There are 40 Fisher Houses at 18 military installations and 10 VA Medical Centers. Also interestingly they help the families fly to the location where the wounded individual is located Miles may be donated though their Miles for Heroes Program located at their Main website Fisher House's This fine organization consistently scores in the top ten of all non-profits ranking lowest overhead to most dollars to cause ratio.
Stop at Perry Bett's Page *****
Here are 2 exceptions : My father Adolph A. Tomsick - a Cleveland Policeman for 25 years from He was My Hero and he passed Aug 17th 1993 ******* ~~~~~00~~~~~
HERE
Many of those on the Viet Nam Memorial Wall have been gone over 41 years
as have been my fraternity brother Bill Papa, and friends Greg Fischer and Terry Kilbane
the differance between Memorial Day ( Last Monday In May )
and Veterans Day ( Nov 11th unless that is on Sat or Sun then it is the next Monday )
William James Papa - Greg William Fischer - Terrence Joseph Kilbane
and Cleveland Patrolman Fred Vacha
Their Families deserve our thanks and gratitude too
Without their sacrifices
we would not enjoy the lifestyle we have become accustomed to
the Age of the youngest men to serve in Viet Nam is now 54
and the youngest to legally serve in WW II is now 82 years old
I am the webmaster and author of this page
In Fort Myers, Florida
It honors the 78 servicemen who lived in this SouthWest Florida Area and died in Viet Nam
from one of the only 4, full sized replicas, of the Iwo Jima Flag Raising Statue on Cape Coral FL ( see pic below )
I live within 4 miles of both sites 
View My Guestbook
Sign My Guestbook

Remembering My Freinds Bill Papa - Greg Fischer = Terry Kilbane
they all Died In Viet Nam in the late 1960's
as did 58,240 other men and 9 women from the mid 1960's to the early 1970's -
a total of 58,249 ( still not exact )
AND there are over 2,530 STILL missing
so they will be remembered Always
4,330 U.S. Men and Women ( just boys and girls in most cases )
have died In Iraq and almost 700 in Afghanistan 
and ALL other Wars
but especially to my boyhood friends
Bill Papa - Terry Kilbane - Gregory Fischer -
They were Soldiers
as they did while they were alive
I am sure they have an "In with the powers that be up There"
I have aksed for their help many times
and it has never failed to come
- not friends - but none the less heroes in my eyes
Alan Steffen died in Viet Nam - he was from my home town of Parma OH = U.S.A.F
Alan was the brother of Jim Steffen
with whom I worked at the Cleveland Plain Dealer for Many years
There is a letter on this page to him from a
a comrade ( John Wolf ) in arms trying to locate him
Valley Forge High School ~ Parma Heights Ohio
I graduated in 1965
When I transferred to Valley Forge
Carl Ange
Ronald Becksted
Terry Davis
Thomas Ewalt
Gregory Fischer
Edward Heifner
Ronald Kerner
Terence Kilbane
Daniel McGrath
Preston Mentall
Phillip Molina
William Rollason
Edward Scott Jr.
Jeffery Whitcomb
I did not know all of these brave boys BUT feel we must ALWAYS keep their memory alive
or loved one lost in ANY conflict contact me
he seems to be of kind heart and soul
"An area of mission close to my heart and one that we support several ways is called Fisher House."
They began in 1990 and are a 501(c)(3) which has offered nearly 3 million days of lodging to more that 120,000 families.
By collecting and offering flight miles
HERO MILES
HERE
He has more to say
check it out
HERE
June 20th 1946 to June 20th 1971
He was detective for 19 of those 25 years
working in Narcotics, Bunco, and Finally Selective Service / Extradition
bringing back draft dodgers and prisoners from out of state 
1965 Valley Forge classmate and friend - Fred Vacha was a Cleveland Policeman and
A Former Unites States Marine too
Only to be gunned down doing his job protecting others 
He was killed in
the line of duty
June 20th 1973
Incident Details Age 26 Cause of Death: Gunfire Date of Incident: Wednesday, June 20, 1973 Weapon Used: Handgun; 9 mm Suspect Info: Floyd Graham Sentenced to life, but up for parole in May 2008Here are some reasons I know I am doing something good and keeping my promise to help others
( see below for the petition we had to keep Floyd behind bars ) Patrolman Vacha was brutally and mercilessly shot and killed as he and his partner patrolled a
high crime area as part of the Impact Task Force. The two officers
observed a man ( Floyd Graham ) acting suspiciously and pulled up alongside of him.
As Patrolman Vacha called out to the man ( Floyd Graham ) the suspect immediately
opened fire with a 9mm handgun. One of the rounds struck Patrolman
Vacha in the head, killing him instantly. The other officer was struck
in the leg and wounded. The suspect ( Floyd Graham ) was arrested a short time later. He was sentenced to two life
sentences for Patrolman Vacha's death and the attack on his partner.
Patrolman Vacha had served on the Department for 4 years.~~~~~~~~~
This was a message in my guest book for this page
see "View Guestbook" link
Tanya Holl Vacha
Canton, MI
March 23 2008
What a great web-site you have set up. I saw your comments on the petition and couldn't help but wonder what I may find if I typed my dad's name in and did a search. All of the friends and other people you have listed on this web-site would be so proud and honored that you have done this. Thank you for not forgetting and for giving me a place where I can see my Dad's face on the computer. My dad was Fred Vacha and although I don't remember knowing him, I think of him always.
Tanya Please email me directly
HERE
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Here is an email I received Oct 9th 2007 in regards to Fred and two other classmates named here:
Bill,
Thanks for your work regarding the website honoring
our friends and classmates from "Forge".
I am a '68 VF grad and lived next door to Fred Vacha
on Commonwealth Blvd. in Parma Hts. from 1960 to
1968. Before Fred lost his life as a Cleveland
police officer in the fifth district (along Buckeye
Road) in 1973, he also served honorably with the United
States Marine Corp. Although Fred never did a tour
in Vietnam, his dedication to the Cleveland PD is
most deserving of your mention and those of us who
knew him and his 3 brothers Jim, Lou and Don, thank
you.
Bill Rollason and Tom Ewalt were also friends of
mine. Bill was in my vocational electronics class
for 3 years and always had just the right wisecrack
at just the right time. Tom and Bill and I all
arrived at Valley Forge after our junior high years
at Pleasant Valley Junior High.
I often think of Bill, Tom and Fred and was amazed
to see their names and tributes after stumbling
across your site.
Thanks again! Your tribute is very much
appreciated.
Richard Ford
Valley Forge High School
Class of 1968
Now living near Van Wert, Ohio
My first wife, Jessica, introduced me to Fred in High School
and Fred and I hung around together @ Manner's Big Boy on Pearl Road and The Whip too in Parma Heights during those years
Just a few minute ago on March 22nd 2008 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I don't believe what happened - The hair on the back of my neck stood up John has since been forced off the Police Department There is another coincidence with Terry Kilbane and The Plain Dealer told in his memorium below ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I have posted notices of the petition You can place a link to this page in your post - bpapa.2ya.com too Again Stop at the petition page and YOU CAN READ THE COMMENTS the signers of the petition left I received and email on Aug 18th in answer to my inquiry as to the outcome of the hearing
I found an online petition
to keep Fred Vacha's Killer ( Floyd Graham )
in jail
It seems he comes up for parole every so often
and in May 2008 there was another parole hearing
I am still trying to find out the results of that hearing
Please enter
"Saw this @ bpapa.2ya.com" in the comments area
in the box provided on the petition site HERE
and sign the petition to keep this killer locked up
You need not be a resident of Ohio to sign it --- just over 18
as I went back to read the complete petition page
as when I found the petition I hurredly placed the info seen above on this page
on my second visit to the petition page
I saw that Fred's partner was named --- John Saccany
John went to Community College with Bill Papa and myself in 1965 and 1966 and
then, I also worked with John's father - Hank Saccany at the Plain Dealer from 1967 until Hank died
because of the injuries he suffered in this attack
went on to become a very successful lawyer in Cleveland
it get even stranger and stranger,
as John is in a firm with another Fraternity Brother of Bill Papa and Myself - Jim Szaller of Szaller and Brown
Talk about six degrees of separation - I am still getting goose flesh
on craislist and put a video on You Tube
but I can only post and do so much
HELP THIS EFFORT BY STOPPING AT
THIS LINK HERE
AND post a notice in the community section - Local News for your city
Remember, You need not be a resident of Ohio to sign it --- just over 18
Here is that answer
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Now to continue with the soldiers
ALL these were brave young men
who served their country and paid the ultimate price
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Also to be found on this page are a compilation of the numbers of men and women who died
in Vietnam and the ALL other major wars
the United States of America has fought in the last 100 years
Bill Papa - Greg Fischer - - Terry Kilbane and Fred Vacha ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There is a Tribute Video to these Brave men on this page too ! +++++ Bill Papa and I attended Cuyahoga Community College ~~~~~~~~ Bobby Goldsboro's - "Honey" was the number one song the week he died ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Where no mothers cry and no children weep Sergeant William James Papa
MILITARY DATA
CASUALTY DATA
Causes
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bill Papa volunteered to join the Army and was NOT drafted Bill grew up on the lower east side of Cleveland, OH Bill was a jovial, personable and fun loving person - He and Mary Jo Larca were engaged to be married ON May 5TH 1968 Bill Papa died 40 years ago in a land far away Those with him said it was quick and painless ~~~~~~~~ Here is a rememberance of Bill which I received in an email On June 23rd 2005 ~~~~~~~~ Is this the Bill Papa that ran the store with his father
I remember the day my father found out Bill was killed.
I can still see Bill at the counter of the store, Dave Lanara ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here is another email I received about Bill: Bill Papa and his family were neighbors of my family Peace
Clyde & Betsy Bena Added - FEB 13th 2007 HERE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ GREGORY WILLIAM FISCHER Greg Joined the Marines to fulfill a lifelong ( 18 years ? ) desire to be "The Best" It is hard to believe that Greg has now been gone FOR over 41 years Paul Mauriat's - "Love Is Blue" was the #1 song the week he died Greg was memorialized For Greg's Page on The Greater Cleveland Veterans Memorial PAGE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On
Jan 21st 2008 Dennis Tepper Found this site when searching Google Dennis said he had been working for the Veterans Administration in N.Y. until he retired recently
I miss you and think of you often 

In the circle is Bill Papa and His Date Mary Jo Larca
at the Sigma Phi Xi fraternity New Years Eve Party Dec 31st, 1965
In the foreground ( with the big smile ) is Dave Kramer
On the right of the picture is Lenny Kunka and his future wife Gloria Hrynak
just behind Bill and Mary Jo is me - Bill Tomk and my future 1st wife - Jessica
together in 1965, and 1966 .
Those were simple care-free days
Full of youthful fun
In some ways
BUT
over shadowed by the conflict over the war in Viet Nam

Bill on left in High School circa 1963 and on the right "In Country" 1967-1968
We will stand and guard tho the angels sleep
All through the ages we safely keep the mansions of the Lord
PERSONAL DATA
Home of Record: Garfield Heights, Ohio
Date of birth: Saturday, Sept/01/1945
Religion: Roman Catholic
Service: Army (Regular)
Grade at loss: E5
Rank: Sergeant
ID No: 51829893
MOS: ----- Not Recorded
LenSvc: 10 months
Unit: A CO, 2ND BN, 8TH CAV RGT, 1 CAV DIV
Start Tour: Friday, AUG/11/1967
Cas Date: Sunday, May/05/1968
Age at Loss: 22
Remains: Body Recovered
Location: Thua Thien, South Vietnam
Type: Non-hostile, Died Of Other
Reason: Air Loss, Crash - Land - Helicopter - Noncrew
ON THE WALL @ Panel 55E Line 026
- near Woodland Ave - his family moved to Garfield Heights when he was 10 or so
caring and active.
While attending Cuyahoga Community College he helped Sigma Phi Xi win the inter-fraternity tackle football championship in Oct 1965
with his athletic talents.
Bill was a good friend and He is missed daily.
when he returned from his tour of duty.
on the corner of Turney Road and Rockside?
I went in that store every day on the way home from school,
and my father Sal and Mr. Papa were good friends.
Mr. Papa was the only Italian my father befriended
in Garfield Heights when we first moved there in 1959.
I was 12 and dad and I would frequently go to the store for bread and milk and of course,
those red, chewy dollar candies I liked.
I was already out of the service for a month.
Dad sat at the table and cried a little for Mr. Papa and Bill,
reflecting that I could have been killed but was spared for some reason,
thank God.
wearing a butchers apron sometimes or a checkered shirt.
Man, I just got choked up, sometimes it hits close to home.
Take care.
Friend of Bill Papa
We lived on 22nd and Creighton Ave.
It was a small street sandwiched between Woodland and Scovill Ave.
Near Downtown Cleveland
When he was in Vietnam I went to Gullucci's Butcher Shop
and I bought him a huge italian salami "Coppocola"
The owner Gus said it would survive the heat of Vietnam.
Bill wrote back that his whole outfit had it gone in an hour.
Our whole family was devastated when he passed away.
Mary Jo was my sister and I felt her grief.
is the entry from the Greater Cleveland Veterans Memorial Page
Submitted by Mary Jo Larca
Dedicated to William James Papa
http://www.clevelandvetsmemorial.org/GCVM_Honor_Roll_Profile.asp?ID=4522
Greg Fischer
PFC - E2 - Marine Corps - Regular
19 year old Single, Caucasian, Male
Born on Feb 05, 1949
From PARMA, OHIO
His tour of duty began on Dec 04, 1967
Casualty was on Feb 22, 1968
in QUANG NAM, SOUTH VIETNAM
HOSTILE, GROUND CASUALTY
GUN, SMALL ARMS FIRE
Body was recovered
Religion: PROTESTANT
Panel 40E - - Line 62
Greg and I met playing football at Dennis Tepper's house
He was a year Behind me at Valley Forge High School ( 1966 )
We use to play pick-up football at Dennis' House on York Road with Paul and John Fitzgerald -
Carl Werner - Paul Lamiere - Terry Kilbane - Dave Sydel - Tom Spidel - Dave Prestel Roman Pawnyk
and the rest of the guys -
he was a quiet unassuming young man - with the heart of a giant -
I miss Greg's laugh and quick wit
in a Cleveland Press Article On May 30th 1968 ( Memorial day )
and again more recently in USA Today on 3/11/2003 article --
I was informed of these articles by
Grant
Leiby from VFHS class of 1965.
HERE
is that article but you must have ADOBE 6.0 downloaded to view it
Click HERE
http://www.clevelandvetsmemorial.org/GCVM_Honor_Roll_Profile.asp?ID=4076
He thanked me for my effort
to remember our friends
Thanks for nice words Mike
But most of all thank YOU for YOUR sacrifices
while serving our country and putting your life on the line
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ TERENCE JOSEPH KILBANE
in QUANG TRI, SOUTH VIETNAM The Association's - "Windy" was the number one song the week Terry died Terry too joined the Marines and was not drafted Terry was the first of my friends to die. Here is a startling
co-incidence - Terry's Father, Joe was a Cleveland Police Detective, and worked with my father In another case of a degree of separation -- Yet One more strange event: The picture of Terry included here was found Hi
It is copyrighted Greater Cleveland Veterans Memorial Page I believe that Terry, Bill, Greg, are still very active Just ask them God Bless Them
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I worked with the next Heroes Brother, Jim Steefen in the pressrooms
Alan Ralph Steffen The Supremes - "You Keep Me Hangin On" topped the music charts the day Alan Died
~~~~~~~~~ Here is an entry found on Alan Steffens Memorial Page @ the Viet Nam Wall Site from
Manuel Pino Jr.
REFLECTIONS FROM THE MOVING WALL". Many people come to see me. America has forgotten the wars ~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I often think about these friends and the others - Sometimes I sit on my lanai and listen to Kenny Rogers song I think about my life and the successes I have had and the failures I have succumbed to - What would they have accomplished if they had lived - . We were all just kids One thing I am sure of ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ HERE I must warn you some are very graphic ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Now My Video dedicated to Bill, Terry, Greg ~~~~~~**~~~~~~ Here is an email I received I received from a woman who remembers those days: Hi Bill;
So I sent letters through the USO and would receive answers for awhile
Once in awhile, in a dream I will remember a name-but never while awake
Lovingly, Mrs. Kitty Scheuerman ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here is something I could NEVER understand That number far exceeds the daily numbers of those killed in every war except our civil war and WWII ~~~~~~~~~~~~ It is amazing that JUST OVER 1 million U.S. soldiers and U.S. combatants have died in all the wars we have fought since 1776 Now the statistics on wars The U.S has fought in the last 100 years I have added an average daily death toll for each conflict ~~~~~~~~~~~~
Killed in WW I ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
World War II
The bloodiest single battle ever in U.S foreign wars
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Korean War ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vietnam / South East Asia
Total served = 8,744,000 ~~ Killed in Military Combat = 47,457 ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Iraq 1 = 1991 = 269 killed in an action ~~~~~~~~~~ Updated Aug 20th 2009
That is approx. 1.8 deaths per day Most of the 4389 U.S Troops killed in Iraq since the 2003 action began were killed since the war Officially ended (5/1/03) The low per day death toll is due mainly because of the quick response Here is a daily update of the casualties HERE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Afghanistan Now the focus of our EFFORTS AGAINST TERRORISM is Afganistan - more U.S. troops The death toll is rising in this god forsaken country as we send more troops into the conflict
US Military Deaths 2001 to 2009 - Afghanistan US 865 This war has just escalated and keeping up with the numbers is a daunting process
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For more complete AND accurate and up to date numbers on those killed . . . Then make sure you stop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Then click HERE In 1960 we both moved elsewhere and as things like that go we lost track of each other. As incredulous as this sounds --- years later, I was in the Parma post office buying 1 stamp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
HENRY CHARLES SANFORD JR
SGT - E5 - Army -
SGT - E5 - Army - Selective Service Its Done Mr Basehore Stop HERE for that ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A request from another person ( Adam Misztal ) who wants his friend remembered I went to Lincoln High
Adam Misztal Adam I was at that game, I graduated from Valley Forge but went to Ignatius from 1961 to Dec 1964 GILBERT FELICIANO
GILBERT FELICIANO
~~~~~~~~~~~ I am the Inventor of the item found there and also the father of two marines As I am disabled and on a limited income I can not afford to keep sending these **************** ! +++++ +++++++++++ ~~~~~**88**~~~~~ - Nov 11 2007 - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~**~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was granted a miracle recovery from a spinal Injury . . + + + + + HERE is a page where you can raise funds for any cause ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ HERE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Another tribute found on the web to Soldiers We were American Soldiers
We were members of the United States Armed Forces. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here is a video memorial to one of our fallen troops God Bless them ALL ~~~~~~~~~~~~
. Jacobs Light Foundation ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here is a request from one soldier to another
If you ARE Steve go to THIS Link to see the You Tube Video
Sgt. Steve Lintl was a Platoon sergeant when I arrived in Vietnam to join
It was my first action; quite frankly I was unprepared for seeing anyone
Prior to going into the Army or going to Vietnam you wonder what would
As I said we were getting hit by mortars or hand grenades, I think we all Without regard for their lives a group of soldiers ran through a
Unfortunately, Zornes and Runge did not survive and joined the Vietnam
John Wolf
If you are related to Steve or know him, please give him my best and tell ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The songs listed as #1 were taken from a Page By Bob Borst **** http://justsafetransporter.com And stop @ Talking With Heroes Now for the stuff that keeps this page on the net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I know this page is about Friends Lost The items found there ALL have Military, Veterans and Families Honor System Discounts ~~~~~~~~~~~ Mesothelioma information for Veterans **** More than 30 percent of Americans beset with mesothelioma ************* And Here is another Veterans All Around Help Page
Valley Forge High School 1965, 1966 1964 Parma Hghts OHIO. St Ignatius Cleve. OH. 1963 1964 1965 Died, Killed, WOUNDED IN Viet Nam. Cape Coral Florida marine iwo jima memorial feb 23rd 1945 Singerman 1965 class reunion Valley Forge High School Parma Heights OH. Ohio. Alumni Organization Reunion class of 1965 Vally Forge High School Parma, OH 45th class reunion steffans hills beaver falls pa., steffens hill beaver falls pennsylvania memorial day memorial page dedicated to those who died Celebrate
Veterans Memorial Day Nov 11th 2008 2009 2010 2011 Dave Kuntz BASKETBELL TRI-C 1965 1966 coach eugene amari ed stoch euclid Ohio
Terry Kilbane
LCPL - E3 - Marine Corps - Regular
20 year old Single, Caucasian, Male
Born on Jan 31, 1947
From PARMA, OHIO
Length of service 1 year.
Casualty was on Jul 06, 1967
Almost 42 years ago
HOSTILE, GROUND CASUALTY
ARTILLERY, ROCKET, or MORTAR
Body was recovered
Religion: ROMAN CATHOLIC
Panel 23E - - Line 20
I met Terry through friends at Holy Family Church on York road -
Terry was the spark the makes a car run - the center of attention -
Just A great guy to know --- He occasionally played football with us at Dennis Tepper s House.
Terry was also a classmate of mine @ Valley Forge
Terry has been gone for almost 42 years
Me and Terry shared the same jobs
as he was a "flyboy"
sort of a Jr apprentice
at the Cleveland Press and Cleveland Plain Dealer
previous to his joining the Marine in The summer of 1966
I started working there in June of 1967
But having never been aware Terry too worked there until recenlty when I read
His bio at
the site found Here
http://www.clevelandvetsmemorial.org
On Oct 2nd 2007
I was revising this page and
I still did not have a picture of Terry Kilbane
after many attempts to contact Valley Forge High School
I remember saying to myself I wish I had a pic of Terry to include on my page
Here is that email:
I’m Terry Kilbane’s younger brother and came across your website.
What a wonderful thing you are doing for all these brave
guys who gave the ultimate sacrifice.
I’m forwarding some info on Terry so hopefully
you can incorporate it in your site.
Thanks and God Bless!!
Kevin Kilbane
Here is the info he forwarded to me
It is where I found THE PICTURE
NOW included on this page
Click Here
http://www.clevelandvetsmemorial.org
to get a glimpse into what Terry endured
in Viet Nam and how his family has dealt with his passing
- guiding, protecting and helping us ALL
@ The Cleveland Plain Dealer and Art Gravure Corporation Of Ohio
SSGT - E5 - Air Force - Regular
PARMA, OH
Date of Birth Jan 14, 1939
Marital Status: Married
Length of service 8 years
Casualty was on Nov 26, 1966
In GIA DINH, SOUTH VIETNAM
NON-HOSTILE, FIXED WING - CREW
AIR LOSS, CRASH ON LAND
Body was recovered
Panel 12E - Line 123
Fellow Vietnam Vet
I am a monument to a black period in this countries history
I am the Vietnam Memorial Wall
composed of two angled granite walls
inscribed with the names of over fifty eight thousand, two hundred American men and women
who died in the hell that was Vietnam
Strangely they come mostly in silence
old people, young people, children, mothers, fathers, widows, friends and other veterans
All for reasons of their own
They bring gifts, pictures, letters, flowers, poems and cigarettes
The letters speak of grief and loneliness and regret
They ask forgiveness
They
are an out pouring of pain
The people who come softly touch names on my face
They water my grass with tears
Then they leave in silence and I hope in peace
For I am more than two stone walls
I am a thank you from a nation that forgot
I am a long past due apology
I am healing for wounds too long left untended
I am a tribute paid to fallen warriors
I AM THE VIETNAM WALL.
will she remember her warriors"?
You may be gone, BUT YOU ARE NOT FORGOTTEN
The picture above is from someone who saw my one of my other pages
and wrote to me and sent this last picture ever of their brother
-- I have lost the info that goes with it
If the sender ever sees this page again
Please contact me and resend the text that you would like to go with this picture
their faces are as clear today as when I last saw them for the last times over 41 years ago.
"2O YEARS AGO " and find myself actually weeping.
the good things and the bad - I have had three children and three wives --
these 4 good men - and MANY of the other 58,249 men and women
who died in Viet Nam NEVER had a chance to experience these things -
if they had
children
what heights would they reach -
in most cases we would never know
-- so young with so many ambitions -
so many hopes and dreams -
What a tradgedy
We are ALL RICHER FOR HAVING HAD THESE brave young men and women walk amongst us
and poorer for having lost them
BUT Heaven is a better place
http://www.vietnamphotography.com
is a web page with a collections of Photos From Viet Nam
The Photographer is award winner Robert Hodierne
I add them to educate those of you too young to remember
what type of war our countrymen had to fight in
Can I suggest: allow the Background Music
on the main page to end before Viewing the Video ![]()
Visit www.WomenInVietnam.com for a real history lesson!
I am listening to your web-site as I write this.
I was a young lady during the Viet Nam conflict,
and did not understand why the troops were being treated so badly,.
--- then one day the letters would stop........I have never ask why,
I only prayed that a son came home. That a husband was reunited with his family,
or that old buddies were sharing a drink with friends at the local gathering spot.
--so I did not look through the lists.
Thank you, Bill for taking so much trouble to remember these men and women
----I will think of them as Grandparents and angels and love them still.
http://www.soldiersangels.com
Click Here for a Great Tribute and Help Site to Our Soldiers
For years over 30,000 people PER YEAR have died in the U.S. from guns
that equates to 85 per day
Where are the protestors to change our guns laws ?
It seems they were out in the 10's of millions against the Viet Nam war
and yet we still are killing each other
in record numbers (30,000 PER YEAR ) right here at home
I am sure the boys and girls who died in our wars did not want to die
so we would have the "right" to kill each other
although that is what the gun lobby would have you believe
most OF THOSE ( 600,000 ) WERE killed in Our Civil War,
with over 51,000 dying in the three day battle July 1 to 3rd 1864
BUT OVER 1,200,000 have been Killed by guns on our streets since JUST 1970
shame on us
The numbers OF THOSE KILLED AND WOUNDED IN ACTION
ARE AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF WAR.
to compare that to the 85 people still being Killed each DAY in the U.S. from Guns
If you don't believe that figure go HERE
85 people per day
are Killed by guns in the U.S. that equates to OVER 31,000 per year -
In the 5 years since the war in Iraq started
we have lost 4000 soldiers or 2.1 per day
My point here is -
Why aren't the people who are protesting the war
- trying to stop the slaughter on our streets
1914 - 1917
= Total served = 4,734,991 ~ killed in action = 53,402 ~
and 63,114 (non-combat)
~ wounded 204,002
Roughly 37 killed per day
7 Dec 1941 — 2 Sep 1945 approximately 1400 days
Total served = 16,112,566 ~ total killed = 404,997 ~
291,557 Killed In Combat plus
~ 113,420 = died in non combat action ~
wounded = 670,846
Which is nearly 290 deaths per day
was the period from Feb 18 1945 to March 25th
During the battle for Iwo Jima
nearly 7000 Marines and Navy personnel lost their lives
The Flag raising statue in the pic is located in my home town
Cape Coral, FL. and is
One of only 4 full size replicas of the original sculpture
25 Jun 1950 — 27 Jul 1953
Approximately 1100 days
Total served = 5,720,000 ~ Killed = 54,246 ~ Military Combat = 33,686
and Non-Combat deaths = 20,560 ~
Wounded 103,240
That is 48+ per day killed from all causes
Approximate length = 3220 days
From
4 Aug 1964 ( this date is not set in stone ) as The U.S. had troops in Vietnam for many years
But is considered to be the Date a major commitment of troops was made
— to March 29, 1973 - The day the last remaining American troops
withdrew from Vietnam as President Nixon declared it
"the day we have all worked and prayed for has finally come."
Actual date of large troop arrival was March 13th 2005
Died from Non Combat wounds / injuries =
10,796 ~
wounded = 53,303
Total Dead in Viet Nam =
58,235 of which 8 were women
That equates to just over 17 per day killed
from all causes
The fighting lasted approximately 70 days ( 3.9 per day )
Because
The present Iraq war ( Enduring Freedom ) = 2003-2009 = is Ongoing
and we are now approximately 2380 days into it as of This update
These figures may be off by a small margin
I will attempt to update them frequently
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4398 have died
37,120 wounded
and improved methods of getting wounded to medical facilities
were killed in Afghanistan than in Iraq since Jan 1st 2009
that is one U.S. death every 3.3 days
HERE is a site which gives daily updates on Soldiers from all nations Killed In Afganistan
God Bless their souls
in any of the wars The U.S. has been in - in the last 100 years go
~~~ HERE ~~~
@ the following link for a site that lists all those killed in Viet Nam
This site has areas to leave comments - memorials as well as
tributes & insights into those men who died in that land
- put your birthday in the search box and see a list of men born on the same day as you who might be as old as you
the names you will see have been gone -- in some cases -- for well over 40 years
Stop HERE for "The Wall" Page

for a page dedicated to those who have died in Iraq
with a daily update of names and pictures and numbers of killed and wounded
God Bless Them ALL
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Others Memories and Stories of Freinds Lost 
From Ron M -
Class of 1965 @ Valley Forge High School
Parma Heights, OH.
My Memory of Henry Sanford
Our Class 40TH Reunion Page is @ This link HERE
Henry was a Parma High School graduate.
Henry was one of my best boyhood friends from 7th grade class
@ a school we attended together while living in Des Moines Iowa
I noticed a guy whom, at that second, resembled my old 7th grade friend
I approached him and we talked & and it turned out -
after all the moving ( 3 times for me & 2 times for him )
we both lived in Parma less than a mile from each other
divided only by the Parma High School & Valley Forge HS dmz line
Unfortunately I found out he was killed in Viet Nam only months later by a Viet Cong boobie trap
Henry Sanford was a great GREEN BERET
God rest his soul
Ron M - Valley Forge HS Class of 1965
Regular
MACV Advisors
21 year old Single, Caucasian, Male
Born on Aug 29, 1946
From PARMA, OHIO
Length of service 2 years.
His tour of duty began on Dec 21, 1967
Casualty was on Jun 12, 1968
in QUANG TRI, SOUTH VIETNAM
HOSTILE, GROUND CASUALTY
OTHER EXPLOSIVE DEVICE
Body was recovered
Religion
ROMAN CATHOLIC
Panel 57W - - Line 3
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Bill,
Please add Bill Rollason to your list.
He lived in Parma and graduated from Valley Forge in 1968.
He was my brother's best friend.
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WILLIAM DAVID ROLLASON
101st Airborne Division
21 year old Married, Caucasian, Male
Born on Dec 08, 1948
From RIVERSIDE, CALIFORNIA
His tour of duty began on Sep 18, 1969
Casualty was on Jul 18, 1970
in THUA THIEN, SOUTH VIETNAM
HOSTILE, GROUND CASUALTY
ARTILLERY, ROCKET, or MORTAR
Body was recovered
Religion
LUTHERAN & MISSOURI SYNOD
Panel 08W - - Line 29
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Again, make sure you
STOP
and visit the following link to leave comments and memorials and insights
into those men who died in that land
- PUT YOUR CITY or a name in the search box --
then follow the links to an area for each soldier where you can leave a tribute & Pictures of your own
Lets Not let these Brave Boys EVER be forgotten<
Gilbert Feliciano
graduated in 1965. Served in Nam in 1971 with 101st AB
Please add Gilbert Feliciano to your list of heroes
He was a Marine KIA in 1967.
He had a 75 yard punt against St.Ignatius in 1964.
Marine Corps - PFC - E2
Age: 20
Race: Caucasian
Sex: Male
Date of Birth Feb 21, 1947
From: CLEVELAND, OH
Religion: ROMAN CATHOLIC
Marital Status: Single
PFC - E2 - Marine Corps - Regular
Length of service 0 years
Casualty was on Jul 4, 1967
In QUANG TRI, SOUTH VIETNAM
HOSTILE, GROUND CASUALTY
GUN, SMALL ARMS FIRE
Body was recovered
Panel 23E - Line 2

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Bill Tomsick in May 1964 with his 1962 racing Chevrolet Corvair 
Me - Bill Tomsick now lives on
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Oct. 1965
We were all just boys really
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The protectors of the greatest nation on earth.
We were proud of the uniform we wore,
We always acted in ways creditable to the military service
and the nation we were sworn to guard.
We are proud of our own branches and units.
We did all we could to make our individual units the finest in the world.
We were loyal to those under whom we served.
We did our full part to carry out orders and instructions given us
As soldiers, we realized that we were members of a time-honored profession.
That we were doing our share to keep alive the principles
of freedom for which our country stands.
No matter what situation we were in,
We never did anything for pleasure, profit, or personal safety,
which would disgrace our country.
We pursued every means we had, even beyond the call of duty,
to restrain our comrades in arms from
actions disgraceful to themselves and the uniform they wore.
We were and are proud of our country and it's flag.
We tried to make the people of this nation
proud of what we represented,
for WE WERE - and always will be - American Soldiers.
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an infantry unit. Steve rarely broke a smile, or at least to me,
he was all business. I am proud to have served with and under Sgt
Steve Lintl; he was a leader, a brave soldier and someone everyone
looked up to. I also thank him for saving my life.
On about November of 1970 our squad (7 guys) was out on patrol and walked
into booby trap. One of our guys must have either tripped a wire or it
was manually detonated? Immediately after the booby trap went off the
VC started dropping mortars shells or hand grenades in on us. The VC
knew we were vulnerable due to shock from the explosion and knowing we
would have wounded. We had two guys down with severe injuries and it
appeared we might be surrounded. The two that were down, Vernon Zornes
and Rob Runge, were very popular in the unit. As one of the new guys,
I was assigned a position in the back of the pack behind Zornes.
Zornes literally saved my life that day, his body protected me from
the blast that went off in front of him.
much less one of my buddies injured. We were also facing the
possibility of being overrun by the enemy. We were in a difficult
situation, tend to the wounded or defend ourselves? I was next to
Zornes and he was hit pretty bad and did not appear to be breathing.
happen if you or your fellow soldiers were hit, what would you do?
Would you run, try to hide, freeze up or start fighting back? I have
to admit I was scared and did take a second to pause, if I treated him
it would be the first time I had ever kissed a man. I immediately
started giving Zornes artificial respiration.
knew this could be the end for the entire group. At this point there
were 5 of us left, 3 of us were tending to the injured, leaving on 2
guys to repel the enemy. Then out of nowhere came the Calvary, it was
just like the Western's I had seen many times before when I was a kid.
hedgerow near us, they were lead by Sgt. Lintl, Sgt. Kailua and
Tom "Doc" Tierney. They had heard the explosions and ran to our
rescue. I will never forget the relief I got when I saw them running
towards us, I knew that we would be OK.
Veterans wall that day. We did our best to try and save them. In doing
so I found out that under extreme duress I could show courage and
clear thinking. It's what some men worry about, some get the chance
and some don't. Some think their tough until they get into the same
situation and wilt. All the men I served with on that day learned what
they are made of, they answered the call and served with distincsion.
him to drop me a line sometime. I imagine this story is unknown to
most of Steve's family or friends. My guess he is kinda quiet about
his heroics. From Wolfie
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