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to honor and remember those who died in all our wars
with particular focus on Vietnam

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who were lost in ANY of our wars

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I had 3 close friends who died in Vietnam
William James ( Bill ) Papa - Terrance ( Terry ) Kilbane - And Gregory William Fischer
I also had many now Veteran friends who served
in the U.S Marines and United States Army in Vietnam
- Mike and Dave Murphy - Donald Avsec ---
Tommy Hills -- Barry Sybil - Tom Kahill - Joe Bonsay - Jack King - Joe Andre Cordiak - Robert Vella ( Chico )

We each have them to thank for our lives In the U.S.
without their and their families sacrifices
we may not have the freedoms we enjoy

Because of the subject this page is long
I hope you take a few minutes of your time to read about
AND help remember and honor ALL the men and women, boys and girls who served
They are now embedded in eternity and they have forever
to continue to watch over and help us
as you read you should Have a Kleenex Ready


Before getting to them
I think it is fitting to list this first casualty - Dan Bullock ( December 21, 1953 - June 7, 1969 )
To show what kind of Young men we have in our country

I did not know this Young Man
But he enlisted in the Marines at age 14 - and was not drafted
Last night ( Nov 10th 2014 ) I saw a show on Smithsonian Channel
about the 25th Anniversary of Wall
the title was " Remembering Vietnam: The Wall at 25 "
During that show they mentioned Dan Bullock
as the Youngest Soldier to die in the war.
They said Dan Bullock altered his Birth certificate to enlist in the Marines at 14 - yes 14
They said Dan did this to help support your family back home.
then he was shipped to Vietnam at age 15 in May 1969
and died a month later on June 7 1969
in a night battle while going to get ammunition for his fellow soldiers
. Dan Bullock You are now one of my heroes.

Here is the Video of his mention in that program
and some pictures of Dan In Country

God Bless This Young Man, Dan Bullock

Every one who visits the wall says it is More than Just a memorial
It is a spiritual experience

I just found out, to my surprise,
there are mobile replicas of the Actual Vietnam Memorials wall
If you can't visit the actual wall
you may be able to visit one of the
traveling replicas of the Vietnam War Memorial Wall
these are set up in Various Cities around the country

On Nov 12th - I just posted the links to the traveling walls below
and coincidences of coincidences -
I was watching the local news on NOV 13th and saw One of the traveling walls is coming to my city Cape Coral FL - This weekend Nov 14th to 16th 2014
- How strange is that ?

Here is A PAGE WITH SCHEDULE for the AVTT ( American Veterans Traveling Tribute


CLICK HERE to see the schedule for another
Vietnam Traveling Memorial Wall


Make sure you
and visit the following link to leave comments and memorials and insights
into those men who died in the Vietnam War
- PUT a name or your date of birth or YOUR CITY or in the search box --
then follow the links to an area for each soldier where you can leave a tribute & Pictures of your own
Lets Not let these Brave Boys EVER be forgotten

Stop HERE at the Vietnam Wall Website Online for that



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"Mansions of the Lord"
Music by Nick Glennie-Smith/Words by Randall Wallace
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The moving, stirring, haunting song "Mansions of the Lord" was sung by the West Point Glee Club
during the credits of the 2002 movie starring Mel Gibson -
"We Were Soldiers"
which chronicled the leadership of Lt Col Harold Moore, 1/7th Cavalry U.S Army,
in one of the first major battles of the Vietnam War
the Battle of Ia Drang on November 14–16, 1965,
also heard ON THIS PAGE from the movie is the dirge
"Sgt. MacKenzie"
Written by Joseph Kilna MacKenzie

Those songs were also played at Ronald Reagan's Memorial Service

Why did I include these songs ? ( and create this page -- is seen in the the following message I received )

U.S. military involvement in Vietnam ended on 15 August 1973
as a result of the Case–Church Amendment passed by the U.S. Congress.
The capture of Saigon by the Vietnam People's Army in April 1975 marked the end of the war,
and North and South Vietnam were reunified the following year.
What did we accomplish ? - 55,269 U.S. Soldiers dead and more missing
and over 1 1/2 million enemy soldiers and civilians killed in the war


Also to be found on this page are a compilation of the numbers of men and women who died
in Vietnam and the ALL other major wars
the United States of America has fought in JUST the last 97 years


Please be patient and keep reading --
Before getting to the memorials for all those who died in Vietnam
I feel it would be only right to remember a good friend of ALL Soldiers
Robin Williams
Star of Good Morning Vietnam

God Bless You Robin
You were the Best


This page was constructed to Help Remember Why
We owe so much to the Vets who have fought to insure our freedoms
and those who died in the wars we have fought and are fighting

But the Vietnam Veteranss and Heroes are the main reason for me making this page

Again, Please sign the guestbook seen above


I am the creator of this page - Bill Tomsck, I was born in 1947 and am 67 years old
and Live in the Ft Myers Florida Area on Cape Coral

As I sit at my computer, listening to the background music playing
while I update this page, I often find my self crying
and thinking about my 3 friends and ALL those Veterans
who have Served BUT especially those who have died for us

I think about what might have been ---
and IF they had had children what would those
children might have done
I am sure we have been robbed of many great accomplishments
because of the wars we fight



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Special Thanks to Fielding Freed ( see the section about his work near the bottom of this page
- and others who contributed to this page


Thank You for the Award
The Australian Artillery - Vietnam


Above is one more way I can help others
You should be seeing the Amber Alert Banner
If the Back Ground is Yellow there is an active Amber Alert
which means there is a child missing or abducted


I want to extend my thanks for all the families who had members serve in
World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, AND ALL wars we have ever been involved in
Our Vietnam Veterans came home to a less than a warm reception

BUT There are huge Numbers who came home AND as a result of their service suffer painful debilitating and in some cases fatal illnesses
from exposure to various elements In Vietnam

Before getting to the tribute I would like you to help another Vietnam Veteran - Lucius Littlejohn

UPDATE on Lucius Littlejohn
The above vet died waiting for medical help
Read the online petition started TO HELP THIS VETERAN
it was mostly ignored


I received an email AUG 11, 2010 further pointing out the situation Many of our vets are now in
You can read what Anne Petitti wrote me about the LIVING VETERANS who served
and continue to die
from service related causes AND FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH SOME OF THE illnesses such
cholangiocarcinoma or bile duct cancer
Your soldier may be have the symptoms seen

More links to help Vets are found at the bottom of this page


Some people Don't appreciate what Our Boys and girls have done for US
in 2006 at the end of her show TV Host Nancy Grace
started showing a number which signified soldiers who had been killed
She would also mention a soldier who had died along with that soldiers next of kin ( with feigned emotions )
I realized it was JUST the number of those who had died in IRAQ
I took it upon myself to contact her and tell about her slap in the face to
ALL the soldiers and their families who are/were serving and dying in Afghanistan too
She ignored me so I sent messages to EVERY ORG I could find
Associated with the Military, vets, and their families
and after years of trying to get her attention
IN Sept of 2010 -- AFTER 4 YEARS OF HER POSTING AND 9 years into the Afghan War
she finally started posting the total number of Our Boys and Girls
who have been killed in both of those theaters of battle
Of course there was no explanation from her as to why she changed her policy
She is too self absorbed to know what was going on - and would have claimed
It was her staff that was at fault
Ms ( dis )Grace is nothing more than a over inflated tabloid TV host


Some of the names listed on the Vietnam Memorial Wall have been gone over 50 years
Remember -- they were someone's Sons, Daughters, Mothers, Fathers, Brothers, Sisters, Aunts, Uncles, Nieces, Nephews and Friends

Among those names are My fraternity brother Bill Papa, and friends Greg Fischer and Terry Kilbane

The 47TH anniversary of Bill Papa 's death will be May 5th 2015

Bill was born Sept 1st 1945 - the day before Japan Signed the Surrender Documents for WWII

Greg Fischer Died over 46 Years ago as of Feb 22nd 2014 - he was killed on Feb 22, 1968
TERRY Kilbane HAS BEEN gone over 47 YEARS on July 06, 1967 -

What surprised me is so many young people don't know
the difference between Memorial Day ( Last Monday In May )
and Veterans Day ( Nov 11th unless that is on Sat or Sun then it is the next Monday )

Memorial Day is a day for Remembering, and Honoring all of the Brave
men and women ( boys and girls really ) who paid Ultimate Price for our Freedom,
May the Sacrifices they and their families made for us never be forgotten

Veterans Day pays homage to the veterans who survived their service time


This page is dedicated to ALL those boys and girls who have served our country
or been taken from us too early

BUT especially to: my boyhood friends who were Vietnam era Soldiers
Their Families and ALL families of those who served / serve deserve our thanks and gratitude too

Lets also not forget the Veterans who served and survived
When Ever I see or talk to a Veteran I Always say Thank you,
especially those Veterans who served in WWII

I also remember Cleveland Patrolman Fred Vacha and My Father - Police Detective Adolph Toms ick

My daughter Meliss, who served in the Marines from 1990 to 1994 and was trained as a meteorologist

All of these men and women are responsible for our nation as it is today
Without their sacrifices
we would not enjoy the lifestyle we have become accustomed to

Another startling fact as of Nov 2014 -
if you accept that 16 years old is the age of being able to join the armed services
( 18 years old is the standard unless they had parental consent for 16 years old )-
the Age of the youngest men to serve in Vietnam
is NO younger than 57 ( our involvement stopped in 1973 )

The youngest to legally serve in Korea is NOW 77 ( ended July 1953 )
and for WWII it is 85 if they were 16 years old when they joined
- ( JAPAN Signed the documents for SURRENDER Sept 2nd 1945 )

70 years after WWII has ended
we are losing those WW II Vets to age and natural causes at a daily rate
far surpassing what the daily casualty rate was during the war



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Finally, to the main reason for this page
Remembering My Friends Bill Papa - Greg Fischer = Terry Kilbane
Bill Papa Greg Fischer Terry Kilbane Vietnam

they all Died In Viet Nam in the late 1960's
as did 58,240 other men and 9 women from the mid 1960's to March 1973 -
a total of 58,249 ( still not exact )
AND there are over 2,530 STILL missing

I also remember Cleveland Patrolman Fred Vacha,
My Father, and other High School Valley Forge classmates who served
and various others whom I was asked by family and friends to add

I have put THIS memorial to them on the net
so they will be remembered Always

In addition - From DEC 2001 to Jan 2014 ( That's about approx 4770 days )
4,710 U.S. Men and Women ( just boys and girls in most cases )
have died In Iraq and another 1,705 in Afghanistan
updated Jan 2014 )

Once more: This page is dedicated to the men and women who served in Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan,
and ALL other Wars
but especially to my boyhood friends
Bill Papa - Terry Kilbane - Gregory Fischer -
They were Viet Nam Soldiers

I know they are in Heaven watching over and protecting us,
as they did while they were alive
I am sure they have an "In with the powers that be up There"
I have asked for their help many times
and it has never failed to come

I have included others here too
- not friends - but none the less heroes in my eyes
Alan Steffen died in Viet Nam - he was from my home town of Parma OH = U.S.A.F
Alan was the brother of Jim Steffen
with whom I worked at the Cleveland Plain Dealer for Many years
Lonnie Allen Floyd whom I never met, but was sent a message by his sister
In addition - Sgt. Steve Lintl whom I also never met but
There is a letter on this page to him from a
a comrade ( John Wolf ) in arms trying to locate him
Plus many others you will read about in few moments


There are boys who died from my alma mater ~
Valley Forge High School ~ Parma Heights Ohio
I graduated in 1965

I also attended St Ignatius High School from Sept 1961 to Feb 1964
When I transferred to Valley Forge


My schoolmates who were killed in Viet Nam are:
Carl Ange
Ronald Becksted
Terry Davis
Thomas Ewalt
Gregory Fischer
Edward Heifner
Ronald Kerner
Terence Kilbane

Daniel McGrath
Preston Mentall
Phillip Molina
William Rollason
Edward Scott Jr.
Jeffery Whitcomb
I did not know all of these brave boys BUT feel we must ALWAYS keep their memory alive

ANYONE wishing to add information or a name or story / tribute to a friend
or loved one lost in ANY conflict contact me

I have made a vow to visit the Viet Nam wall and make rubbings of my friends names
I am hoping to do this this year (2014)
And then visit the graves of Terry in Arlington National Cemetery
and Bill and Greg's burial sites in the Cleveland Area in next year
Years ago I suffered a spinal cord injury which limits my ability to get around with ease



Now to continue with the soldiers

ALL these were brave young men
who served their country and paid the ultimate price


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There are two Tribute Videos to these Brave men on this page too !
One was shown on CNN on Memorial Day


In the circle is Bill Papa and His Date Mary Jo Larca
at the Sigma Phi Xi fraternity New Years Eve Party Dec 31st, 1965
In the foreground ( with the big smile ) is Dave Kramer
On the right of the picture is Lenny Kunka and his future wife Gloria Hrynak
just behind Bill and Mary Jo is me - and my future 1st wife - Jessica

Bill Papa and I attended Cuyahoga Community College
together in 1965, and 1966 .
Those were simple care-free days
Full of youthful fun
In some ways
over shadowed by the conflict over the war in Viet Nam


Bobby Goldsboro's - "Honey" was the number one song the week he died

Bill on left in High School circa 1963 and on the right "In Country" 1967-1968




Here is My Video dedicated to Bill, Terry, Greg
Can I suggest: allow the Background Music
on the main page to end before Viewing the Videos
the second one was seen on CNN


Now the video which was shown on CNN
that is me talking about Greg And Terry
CNN said two was enough and did not air the one for Bill Papa

Here's a video with no music
to pay tribute to those who died IN ALL our wars



Where no mothers cry and no children weep
We will stand and guard tho the angels sleep
All through the ages we safely keep the mansions of the Lord

Sergeant William James Papa
Home of Record: Garfield Heights, Ohio
Date of birth: Saturday, Sept/01/1945
He was born the day before Japan Signed the Surrender Documents for WWII
Religion: Roman Catholic

Service: Army (Regular)
Grade at loss: E5
Rank: Sergeant
ID No: 51829893
MOS: ----- Not Recorded
LenSvc: 10 months

Start Tour: Friday, AUG/11/1967
Cas Date: Sunday, May/05/1968
Age at Loss: 22
Remains: Body Recovered
Location: Thua Thien, South Vietnam
Type: Non-hostile, Died Of Other

Reason: Air Loss, Crash - Land - Helicopter - Noncrew
ON THE WALL @ Panel 55E Line 026

Bill is buried in Calvary Cemetery
Miles Ave
Cleveland Ohio

HERE is Bill's Viet Nam Wall Memorial Page = ADD your thoughts


Bill Papa volunteered to join the Army and was NOT drafted

Bill grew up on the lower east side of Cleveland, OH
- near Woodland Ave - his family moved to Garfield Heights when he was 10 or so

Bill was a jovial, personable and fun loving person -
caring and active.
While attending Cuyahoga Community College he helped Sigma Phi Xi win the inter-fraternity tackle football championship in Oct 1965
with his athletic talents.
Bill was a good friend and He is missed daily.

He and Mary Jo Larca were engaged to be married
when he returned from his tour of duty.

ON May 5TH 1968 Bill Papa died -- 46 years ago in a land far away

It was a helicopter accident and Those with him said it was quick and painless


Here is a remembrance of Bill which I received in an email On June 23rd 2005


Is this the Bill Papa that ran the store with his father
on the corner of Turney Road and Rockside?
I went in that store every day on the way home from school,
and my father Sal and Mr. Papa were good friends.
Mr. Papa was the only Italian my father befriended
in Garfield Heights when we first moved there in 1959.
I was 12 and dad and I would frequently go to the store for bread and milk and of course,
those red, chewy dollar candies I liked.

I remember the day my father found out Bill was killed.
I was already out of the service for a month.
Dad sat at the table and cried a little for Mr. Papa and Bill,
reflecting that I could have been killed but was spared for some reason,
thank God.

I can still see Bill at the counter of the store,
wearing a butchers apron sometimes or a checkered shirt.
Man, I just got choked up, sometimes it hits close to home.
Take care.

Dave Lanara
Friend of Bill Papa


Here is another email I received about Bill:

Bill Papa and his family were neighbors of my family
We lived on 22nd and Creighton Ave.
It was a small street sandwiched between Woodland and Scovill Ave.
Near Downtown Cleveland
When he was in Vietnam I went to Gullucci's Butcher Shop
and I bought him a huge italian salami "Coppocola"
The owner Gus said it would survive the heat of Vietnam.
Bill wrote back that his whole outfit had it gone in an hour.
Our whole family was devastated when he passed away.
Mary Jo was my sister and I felt her grief.


Clyde & Betsy Bena Added - FEB 13th 2007

is the entry from the Greater Cleveland Veterans Memorial Page
Submitted by Mary Jo Larca
Dedicated to William James Papa




Greg Fischer

PFC - E2 - Marine Corps - Regular
19 year old Single, Caucasian, Male
Born on Feb 05, 1949
His tour of duty began on Dec 04, 1967
Casualty was on Feb 22, 1968
Body was recovered
Panel 40E - - Line 62

Greg is inturred at
Sunset Memorial Park
6265 Columbia Road

Greg Joined the Marines to fulfill a lifelong ( 18 years ? ) desire to be "The Best"

It is hard to believe on Feb 22nd Greg has been gone FOR over 46 years
Greg and I met playing football at Dennis Tepper's house
He was a year Behind me at Valley Forge High School ( 1966 )
We use to play pick-up football at Dennis' House on York Road with Paul and John Fitzgerald -
Carl Werner - Paul Lamiere - Terry Kilbane - Dave Sydel - Tom Spidel - Dave Prestel Roman Pawnyk
and the rest of the guys -
he was a quiet unassuming young man - with the heart of a giant -
I miss Greg's laugh and quick wit

Paul Mauriat's - "Love Is Blue" was the #1 song the week he died

Greg was memorialized
in a Cleveland Press Article On May 30th 1968 ( Memorial day )
and again more recently in USA Today on 3/11/2003 article --
I was informed of these articles by Grant Leiby from VFHS class of 1965.
is that article but you must have ADOBE 6.0 downloaded to view it

For Greg's Page on The Greater Cleveland Veterans Memorial PAGE
Click HERE

On Jan 21st 2008 Dennis Tepper Found this site when searching Google
He thanked me for my effort to remember our friends

Dennis said he had been working for the Veterans Administration in N.Y. until he retired recently

The following is an email I just just got Feb 5th 2008 
My name is Mike Madden, I lived on Glamer Dr from the late 50's to the
mid-60's and went to Holy Family grade school. I had an older
brother--Joe-- and sister-- Mary--that graduated from grade school
ahead of me in 1960 and 1959. Your name sounds very familiar, I'm thinking
you knew my brother. We both went to Cathedral Latin.

I knew Greg Fischer in the neighborhood--he lived on Schwab Dr.--and
played ball with him at the local parks. I was in college at Dayton
when I saw the news of his death and was really stunned by it.
As luck would have it I ended up in the army late in 1968 and was shipped over to Nam
in 1969 and put in 14 months there.

I appreciate the work you've done with the site; I'm sure all the
families of the guys that were killed over there feel the same way.
Mike Madden

Thanks for nice words Mike
But most of all thank YOU for YOUR sacrifices
while serving our country and putting your life on the line





Terry Kilbane

LCPL - E3 - Marine Corps - Regular
20 year old Single, Caucasian, Male
Born on Jan 31, 1947
Length of service 1 year.
Casualty was on July 06, 1967

Body was recovered

Panel 23E - - Line 20
Terry was buried at Holy Cross Cemetery
Brookpark Road
Brookpark Ohio
I was informed Terry was buried there July 17, 1967
and moved to Arlington National Cemetery, Va., March 25, 1993

The Association's - "Windy" was the number one song the week Terry died

Terry too joined the Marines and was not drafted

Terry was the first of my friends to die.
I met Terry through friends at Holy Family Church on York road -
Terry was the spark the makes a car run - the center of attention -
Just A great guy to know --- He occasionally played football with us at Dennis Tepper s House.

Here is a startling co-incidence - Terry's Father, Joe was a Cleveland Police Detective, and worked with my father, WHO WAS A NARCOTICS DETECTIVE in Cleveland
Terry was also a classmate of mine @ Valley Forge
Again, Terry has been gone for 47 years as of July 6th 2014

In another case of a degree of separation --
Me and Terry shared the same jobs
as he was a "flyboy"
sort of a Jr apprentice
at the Cleveland Press and Cleveland Plain Dealer
previous to his joining the Marine in The summer of 1966
I started working there in June of 1967
But having never been aware Terry too worked there until recently when I read
His bio at
the site found Here

Yet One more strange event:
On Oct 2nd 2007
I was revising this page and
I still did not have a picture of Terry Kilbane
after many attempts to contact Valley Forge High School
I remember saying to myself I wish I had a pic of Terry to include on my page

The picture of Terry included here was found
The very next day - Oct 3rd 2007 in an email I received:
Here is that email:


I’m Terry Kilbane’s younger brother and came across your website.
What a wonderful thing you are doing for all these brave
guys who gave the ultimate sacrifice.
I’m forwarding some info on Terry so hopefully
you can incorporate it in your site.

Thanks and God Bless!!

Kevin Kilbane

Here is the info he forwarded to me
It is where I found THE PICTURE
NOW included on this page

It is copyrighted Greater Cleveland Veterans Memorial Page
Click Here

to get a glimpse into what Terry endured
in Viet Nam and how his family has dealt with his passing

I believe that Terry, Bill, Greg, are still very active
- guiding, protecting and helping us ALL

Just ask them

God Bless Them




I worked with the next Heroes Brother, Jim Steffen in the pressrooms
@ The Cleveland Plain Dealer, Cleveland Press and Art Gravure Corporation Of Ohio

Alan Ralph Steffen
SSGT - E5 - Air Force - Regular
Date of Birth Jan 14, 1939
Marital Status: Married

Length of service 8 years
Casualty was on Nov 26, 1966
Body was recovered
Panel 12E - Line 123

The Supremes - "You Keep Me Hangin On" topped the music charts the day Alan Died


Here is an entry found on Alan Steffens Memorial Page @ the Viet Nam Wall Site

from Manuel Pino Jr.
Fellow Vietnam Vet

I am a monument to a black period in this countries history
I am the Vietnam Memorial Wall
composed of two angled granite walls
inscribed with the names of over fifty eight thousand, two hundred American men and women
who died in the hell that was Vietnam

Many people come to see me.
Strangely they come mostly in silence
old people, young people, children, mothers, fathers, widows, friends and other veterans
All for reasons of their own
They bring gifts, pictures, letters, flowers, poems and cigarettes
The letters speak of grief and loneliness and regret
They ask forgiveness
They are an out pouring of pain
The people who come softly touch names on my face
They water my grass with tears
Then they leave in silence and I hope in peace
For I am more than two stone walls
I am a thank you from a nation that forgot
I am a long past due apology
I am healing for wounds too long left untended
I am a tribute paid to fallen warriors

America has forgotten the war
will she remember her warriors"?


Here is a message I received through my Face Book Page
I feel honored the family would allow me to post this

Brenda Underwood June 24 at 12:35am
I just visited your site and was speechless while listening and reading
the tributes. It really touched my heart because my brother
Lonnie A. Floyd was KIA 1-14-67 while serving with the 173RD ABN. He was 19.
Just today I received an email from a fellow who had been in basic
training with my brother and he told me many things I had not either
remembered or ever knew about Lonnie during their training. I was only
14 then and 16 when Lonnie was killed. I wish you had known him.
If you have a chance please visit Lonnies Viet Nam Veterans Memorial Fund site
maybe you read a little bit about this wonderful soldier who will
always be young in my heart. Thank you for allowing me to visit your
site and learn a bit about your friends.
God Bless.
Brenda Floyd Underwood

And a follow up to the first message:
Brenda Underwood June 24 at 11:12am
Good morning Bill. I will be honored to have Lonnie's link posted to your
site among your fallen friends. He would be proud & you would've be
proud to have him as a friend. His grave has never gone one day
without a flag & flowers and I've made sure thru my children &
grandchildren that his legacy and memory will always be in their
hearts. My mother visited The Wall with our local Vietnam Veterans
Chapter when the Wall was dedicated and never missed a Veteran's Day
til the year before she died in '03. My husband & I have always
visited the Wall on Memorial Day and ridden with the Rolling Thunder
Group on the Sunday before. It's a trip that grows more dear to me
each year. I know Lonnie is looking down on us & while at the Wall I
can almost hear him say "I love you Little Sis". Thanks Bill for your
service and sacrifice & next year at The Wall I will look for your
friends names & leave a part of my heart with them too. Thanks so much.
Brenda Floyd Underwood-Hixson, TN.

Now Please join me in remembering Lonnie Allen Floyd

Lonnie Allen Floyd.

Lonnie ALLEN FLOYD is honored on Panel 14E, Row 27 of the Viet Nam War Memorial

Date of Birth: 7/29/1947
Date of Casualty: 1/14/1967
Home of Record: CHATTANOOGA
State: TN
Branch of Service: ARMY
Rank: SP4
Casualty Country: SOUTH VIETNAM
Casualty Province: BINH DUONG

The Number 1 song the week Lonnie died was The Monkees - I'm A Believer


The picture above is from someone who saw my one of my other pages
and wrote to me and sent this last picture ever of their brother
-- I have lost the info that goes with it
If the sender ever sees this page again
Please contact me and resend the text that you would like to go with this picture


I often think about these friends and the others -
their faces are as clear today as when I last saw them for the last times over 43 years ago.

Sometimes I sit on my lanai and listen to Kenny Rogers song
"2O YEARS AGO " and find myself actually weeping.

I think about my life and the successes I have had and the failures I have succumbed to -
the good things and the bad -
these good men - and MANY of the other 58,249 men and women
who died in Viet Nam NEVER had a chance to experience these things -

What would they have accomplished if they had lived -
if they had children
what heights would they reach -
in most cases we would never know


We were all just kids
-- so young with so many ambitions -
so many hopes and dreams -
What a tragedy

One thing I am sure of
We are ALL RICHER FOR HAVING HAD THESE brave young men and women walk amongst us
and poorer for having lost them
BUT Heaven is a better place


is a web page with a collections of Photos From Viet Nam
The Photographer is award winner Robert Hodierne

I must warn you some are very graphic
I add them to educate those of you too young to remember
what type of war our countrymen had to fight in

Visit www.WomenInVietnam.com for a real history lesson!

Here is an email I received I received from a woman who remembers those days:

Hi Bill;
I am listening to your web-site as I write this.
I was a young lady during the Viet Nam conflict,
and did not understand why the troops were being treated so badly,.

So I sent letters through the USO and would receive answers for awhile
--- then one day the letters would stop........I have never ask why,
I only prayed that a son came home. That a husband was reunited with his family,
or that old buddies were sharing a drink with friends at the local gathering spot.

Once in awhile, in a dream I will remember a name-but never while awake
--so I did not look through the lists.
Thank you, Bill for taking so much trouble to remember these men and women
----I will think of them as Grandparents and angels and love them still.

Lovingly, Mrs. Kitty Scheuerman


Click Here for a Great Tribute and Help Site to Our Soldiers


Here is something I could NEVER understand
For years over 30,000 people PER YEAR have died / been injured in the U.S. from guns
that equates to 87 per day

That number far exceeds the daily numbers of those killed / wounded in every war except our civil war and WWII
Where are the protesters to change our guns laws ?
It seems they were out in the 10's of millions against the Viet Nam war
and yet we still are killing and maiming each other
in record numbers (30,000 PER YEAR ) right here at home
I am sure the boys and girls who died in our wars did not want to die
so we would have the "right" to kill or hurt each other
although that is what the gun lobby would have you believe


I live just 5 miles
from one of the only 4, full sized replicas, of the Iwo Jima Flag Raising Statue on Cape Coral FL


Visit Justice For All

and read about the restoration
of THE Cape Coral Statue commemorating the Iwo Jima Flag Raising
Founder Marian B. Scirrotto
....There is More on the battle of Iwo Jima Below


It is amazing that JUST OVER 1 million U.S. soldiers and U.S. combatants have died in all the wars we have fought since 1776
most OF THOSE ( 600,000 ) WERE killed in Our Civil War,
with over 51,000 dying in the three day battle July 1 to 3rd 1864
BUT OVER 1,200,000 have been Killed / injured by guns on our streets JUST since 1970
shame on us


Now the statistics on wars The U.S has fought in the last 100 years

I have added an average daily death toll for each conflict
to compare that to the 85 people still being Killed each DAY in the U.S. from Guns
If you don't believe that figure go HERE
85 people per day
are Killed by guns in the U.S. that equates to OVER 31,000 per year -
In the 5 years since the war in Iraq started
we have lost 4000 soldiers or 2.1 per day
My point here is -
Why aren't the people who are protesting the war
- trying to stop the slaughter on our streets


Killed in WW I
1914 - 1917
= Total served = 4,734,991 ~ killed in action = 53,402 ~
and 63,114 (non-combat)
~ wounded 204,002
Roughly 37 killed per day

World War II
7 Dec 1941 — 2 Sep 1945 approximately 1400 days
Total served = 16,112,566 ~ total killed = 404,997 ~
291,557 Killed In Combat plus
~ 113,420 = died in non combat action ~
wounded = 670,846
Which is nearly 290 deaths per day

The bloodiest single battle ever in U.S foreign wars
was the period from Feb 18 1945 to March 25th
During the battle for Iwo Jima

nearly 7000 Marines and Navy personnel lost their lives
The Flag raising statue in the pic is located in my home town
Cape Coral, FL. and is
One of only 4 full size replicas of the original sculpture


Korean War
25 Jun 1950 — 27 Jul 1953
Approximately 1100 days
Total served = 5,720,000 ~ Killed = 54,246 ~ Military Combat = 33,686
and Non-Combat deaths = 20,560 ~
Wounded 103,240
That is 48+ per day killed from all cause


Vietnam / South East Asia

Approximate length = 3220 days
From 4 Aug 1964 ( this date is not set in stone ) as The U.S. had troops in Vietnam for many years
But is considered to be the Date a major commitment of troops was made
— to March 29, 1973 - The day the last remaining American troops
withdrew from Vietnam as President Nixon declared it
"the day we have all worked and prayed for has finally come."
Actual date of large troop arrival was March 13th 2005

Total served = 8,744,000 ~~ Killed in Military Combat = 47,457 ~
Died from Non Combat wounds / injuries = 10,796 ~
wounded = 53,303
Total Dead in Viet Nam = 58,235 of which 8 were women
That equates to just over 17 per day killed


Iraq 1 = 1991 = 269 killed in an action
from all causes
The fighting lasted approximately 70 days ( 3.9 per day )


Updated Aug 20th
Because The present Iraq war ( Enduring Freedom ) = 2003-2009 = is Ongoing
and we are now approximately 2380 days into it as of This update
These figures may be off by a small margin
I will attempt to update them frequently
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4398 have died
37,120 wounded

That is approx. 1.8 deaths per day

Most of the 4389 U.S Troops killed in Iraq since the 2003 action began were killed since the war Officially ended (5/1/03)

The low per day death toll is due mainly because of the quick response
and improved methods of getting wounded to medical facilities

Here is a daily update of the casualties HERE



Now the focus of our EFFORTS AGAINST TERRORISM is Afghanistan

The death toll is rising in this god forsaken country as we send more troops into the conflict

US Military Deaths 2001 to 2014 - Afghanistan US 1705
that is one U.S. death every 2.4 days

The lowest daily ratre in ANY war -
This war has escalated and keeping up with the numbers is a daunting process
HERE is a site which gives daily updates on Soldiers from all nations Killed In Afghanistan
God Bless their souls For a more complete AND accurate up to date numbers on those killed
in any of the wars The U.S. has been in - in the last 100 years go
to this link HERE


Then make sure you stop
@ the following link for a site that lists all those killed in Viet Nam
This site has areas to leave comments - memorials as well as
tributes & insights into those men who died in that land
- put your birthday in the search box and see a list of men born on the same day as you who might be as old as you
the names you will see have been gone --over 50 years
Stop HERE for "The Online Viet Nam Memorial Wall" Page


Then click HERE

for a page dedicated to those who have died in Iraq
with names and pictures and numbers of killed and wounded
God Bless Them ALL

Others Memories and Stories of Friends Lost

From Ron M -
Class of 1965 @ Valley Forge High School
Parma Heights, OH.
My Memory of Henry Sanford
Our Class 45TH Reunion Page is @ This link HERE
Henry was a Parma High School graduate.
Henry was one of my best boyhood friends from 7th grade class
@ a school we attended together while living in Des Moines Iowa

In 1960 we both moved elsewhere and as things like that go we lost track of each other.

As incredulous as this sounds --- years later, I was in the Parma post office buying 1 stamp
I noticed a guy whom, at that second, resembled my old 7th grade friend
I approached him and we talked & and it turned out -
after all the moving ( 3 times for me & 2 times for him )
we both lived in Parma less than a mile from each other
divided only by the Parma High School & Valley Forge HS dmz line
Unfortunately I found out he was killed in Viet Nam only months later by a Viet Cong boobie trap
Henry Sanford was a great GREEN BERET
God rest his soul
Ron M - Valley Forge HS Class of 1965



SGT - E5 - Army -
Regular MACV Advisors
21 year old Single, Caucasian, Male
Born on Aug 29, 1946
Length of service 2 years.
His tour of duty began on Dec 21, 1967
Casualty was on Jun 12, 1968
Body was recovered
Panel 57W - - Line 3
Please add Bill Rollason to your list.
He lived in Parma and graduated from Valley Forge in 1968.
He was my brother's best friend.
John R Basehore CRS GRI (Class of 66)
Associate Broker
RE/MAX Achievers
10555 N 114th Street #105
Scottsdale, Az 85259
480-603-4610 Direct


SGT - E5 - Army - Selective Service
101st Airborne Division
21 year old Married, Caucasian, Male Born on Dec 08, 1948
His tour of duty began on Sep 18, 1969
Casualty was on Jul 18, 1970
Body was recovered
Panel 08W - - Line 29

It's Done Mr. Basehore

Again, make sure you

and visit the following link to leave comments and memorials and insights
into those men who died in that land
- PUT YOUR CITY or a name in the search box --
then follow the links to an area for each soldier where you can leave a tribute & Pictures of your own
Lets Not let these Brave Boys EVER be forgotten

Stop HERE at the Vietnam Memorial Wall Website Online


Here is a request from another person ( Adam Misztal )
who wants his friend remembered
Gilbert Feliciano

I went to Lincoln High
graduated in 1965. Served in Nam in 1971 with 101st AB
Please add Gilbert Feliciano to your list of heroes
He was a Marine KIA in 1967.
He had a 75 yard punt against St.Ignatius in 1963.

Adam Misztal

Adam I was at that game, I graduated from Valley Forge but went to Ignatius from 1961 to Dec 1964

Marine Corps - PFC - E2
Age: 20
Race: Caucasian
Sex: Male
Date of Birth Feb 21, 1947
Marital Status: Single

PFC - E2 - Marine Corps - Regular
Length of service 0 years
Casualty was on Jul 4, 1967
Body was recovered
Panel 23E - Line 2


Here are 2 exceptions but these men none the less deserve to be remembered :

My father Adolph A. Tock -

a Cleveland Policeman for 25 years from
June 20th 1946 to June 20th 1971
He served as a Military Police Officer in The Iraq, Burma, India Theater during World War II
reaching the Rank Of 1st Lieutenant

He joined the Cleveland Police Force in 1946 and rose to detective for 19 of his 25 years
working in mostly on the Narcotics Squad, but also did duty in Bunco, and Finally Selective Service / Extradition
bringing back draft dodgers and prisoners from out of state

He was My Hero and he passed Aug 1993


1965 Valley Forge classmate and friend - Fred Vacha was a Cleveland Policeman and
A Former Unites States Marine too
Only to be gunned down doing his job protecting others

He was killed in the line of duty
June 20th 1973


Incident Details
Age 26 
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Date of Incident: Wednesday, June 20, 1973
Weapon Used: Handgun; 9 mm
Suspect Info: Floyd Graham Sentenced to life, but up for parole in May 2018
( see below for the petition we had to keep Floyd behind bars ) Patrolman Vacha was brutally and mercilessly shot and killed as he and his partner patrolled a
high crime area as part of the Impact Task Force. The two officers
observed a man ( Floyd Graham ) acting suspiciously and pulled up alongside of him.
As Patrolman Vacha called out to the man ( Floyd Graham ) the suspect immediately
opened fire with a 9mm handgun. One of the rounds struck Patrolman
Vacha in the head, killing him instantly. The other officer was struck
in the leg and wounded. The suspect ( Floyd Graham ) was arrested a short time later. He was sentenced to two life
sentences for Patrolman Vacha's death and the attack on his partner.
Patrolman Vacha had served on the Department for 4 years.


Here are some reasons I know I am doing something good and keeping my promise to help others

This was a message in my guest book for this page
see "View Guestbook" link

Tanya Holl Vacha
Canton, MI
March 23 2008

What a great web-site you have set up.
I saw your comments on the petition and couldn't help but wonder
what I may find if I typed my dad's name in and did a search.
All of the friends and other people you have listed on this web-site would be so proud
and honored that you have done this.
Thank you for not forgetting and for giving me a place where I can see my Dad's face on the computer.
My dad was Fred Vacha and although I don't remember knowing him,
I think of him always.

Tanya Please email me directly


Here is an email I received Oct 9th 2007 in regards to Fred and two other classmates named here:

Thanks for your work regarding the website honoring our friends and classmates from "Forge".

I am a '68 VF grad and lived next door to Fred Vacha on Commonwealth Blvd. in Parma Hts. from 1960 to 1968.
Before Fred lost his life as a Cleveland police officer in the fifth district (along Buckeye Road) in 1973,
he also served honorably with the United States Marine Corp.
Although Fred never did a tour in Vietnam,
his dedication to the Cleveland PD is most deserving of your mention
and those of us who knew him and his 3 brothers Jim, Lou and Don,
thank you.
Bill Rollason and Tom Ewalt were also friends of mine.
Bill was in my vocational electronics class for 3 years and always had just the right
wisecrack at just the right time.
Tom and Bill and I all arrived at Valley Forge
after our junior high years at Pleasant Valley Junior High.

I often think of Bill, Tom and Fred and was amazed to see their names
and tributes after stumbling across your site.

Thanks again! Your tribute is very much appreciated.

Richard Ford
Valley Forge High School Class of 1968
Now living near Van Wert, Ohio

My first wife, Jessica, introduced me to Fred in High School
and Fred and I hung around together @ Manner's Big Boy on Pearl Road
and The Whip too in Parma Heights during those years

#1 song the week Fred was Killed = Paul McCartney - My Love

I am involved in online petitions
to keep Fred Vacha's Killer ( Floyd Graham )
in jail
It seems he comes up for parole every so often
thousands signed the petition
You can continue to sign for future hearings
Please add as a comment the following in the box provided for comments
"Saw this petition @ bpapa.2ya.com"
on the petition
and sign the petition to keep this killer locked up
You need not be a resident of Ohio to sign it --- just over 18


UPDATE..... Floyd Grahams last parole hearing was MAY 2008 he was turned down - Thank you for your support (over 11,000 signed )

I don't believe what happened -
as I went back to read the complete petition page
as when I found the petition I hurriedly placed the info seen above on this page
on my second visit to the petition page
I saw that Fred's partner was named --- John Saccany

The hair on the back of my neck stood up
John went to Community College with Bill Papa and myself in 1965 and 1966 and
then, I also worked with John's father - Hank Saccany at the Plain Dealer from 1967 until Hank died

John has since been forced off the Police Department
because of the injuries he suffered in this attack
but went on to become a very successful lawyer in Cleveland
it gets even stranger and stranger,
as John is in a firm with another Fraternity Brother of Bill Papa and Myself - Jim Szaller of Szaller and Brown

There is another coincidence with Terry Kilbane and The Plain Dealer told in his memorium
Talk about six degrees of separation - I am still getting goose flesh


I have posted notices of the petition
on Craigslist and put a video on You Tube
but I can only post and do so much
AND post a notice in the community section - Local News for your city

You can place a link to this page in your post - bpapa.2ya.com too

Again Stop at the petition page and YOU CAN READ THE COMMENTS the signers of the petition left
Remember, You need not be a resident of Ohio to sign it --- just over 18

I received and email on Aug 18th in answer to my inquiry as to the outcome of the hearing
Here is that answer


Click Here
to Send Gifts to Our Boys and Girls
To say Thank You

I am the father of two marines
a boy and girl
They needed something like the above items
I sent/gave them some of these great devices
every month or so I still send a few to be distributed to other soldiers, Marine, Navy and Air Force
You should too To help boost the morale
It's the least we can do

As I am disabled and on a limited income I can not afford to keep sending these
That is why I am offering them to others to send to show support




Another Wall page is HERE
The Virtual Wall

Tributes to Our Viet Nam Soldiers



- Nov 11 2007 -
Veterans Day
I just saw a piece on a CBS News about Jacob Jake Vanderbosch
Killed 2005
Mothers are still Crying
Fathers still miss catches
Brothers are still wondering
When Will It End ?


Me, taken in May 1964 with my 1962 racing Chevrolet Corvair

I now live on
in FL
here I am in 2005 ~ with my 1966 Corvair
and Gilligan my Blue and Gold Macaw


I was granted a miracle recovery from a spinal Injury
My Touched by an Angel Story is told

Mickey Mantle is involved



The Men of Sigma Phi Xi
Oct. 1965
We were all just boys really

+ + + + +

HERE is a page where you can raise funds for any cause


Is Another Fallen Heroes Memorial Page
Which honors those who have fallen in Iraq


Another tribute found on the web to Soldiers

We were American Soldiers

We were members of the United States Armed Forces.
The protectors of the greatest nation on earth.
We were proud of the uniform we wore,
We always acted in ways creditable to the military service
and the nation we were sworn to guard.
We are proud of our own branches and units.
We did all we could to make our individual units the finest in the world.
We were loyal to those under whom we served.
We did our full part to carry out orders and instructions given us
As soldiers, we realized that we were members of a time-honored profession.
That we were doing our share to keep alive the principles
of freedom for which our country stands.
No matter what situation we were in,
We never did anything for pleasure, profit, or personal safety,
which would disgrace our country.
We pursued every means we had, even beyond the call of duty,
to restrain our comrades in arms from
actions disgraceful to themselves and the uniform they wore.
We were and are proud of our country and it's flag.
We tried to make the people of this nation
proud of what we represented,
for WE WERE - and always will be - American Soldiers.


Here is a memorial to one of our fallen troops
Jessiah Jameson

God Bless Him and the ALL rest

In Loving Memory of Jessiah Jameson
From His Family and Friends



Please Use the email link above with your comments and to contact Me =
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Jacobs Light Foundation
In Memory of Jacob Fletcher - who was killed in Iraq


Here is a request from one soldier to another
John Wolf TO Steve Lintl -- John I found on You Tube
If you know Steve Lintl please tell him to come here and read this page

If you ARE Steve go to THIS Link to see the You Tube Video
meant for you

Sgt. Steve Lintl was a Platoon sergeant when I arrived in Vietnam to join
an infantry unit. Steve rarely broke a smile, or at least to me,
he was all business. I am proud to have served with and under Sgt
Steve Lintl; he was a leader, a brave soldier and someone everyone
looked up to. I also thank him for saving my life.
On about November of 1970 our squad (7 guys) was out on patrol and walked
into booby trap. One of our guys must have either tripped a wire or it
was manually detonated? Immediately after the booby trap went off the
VC started dropping mortars shells or hand grenades in on us. The VC
knew we were vulnerable due to shock from the explosion and knowing we
would have wounded. We had two guys down with severe injuries and it
appeared we might be surrounded. The two that were down, Vernon Zornes
and Rob Runge, were very popular in the unit. As one of the new guys,
I was assigned a position in the back of the pack behind Zornes.
Zornes literally saved my life that day, his body protected me from
the blast that went off in front of him.

It was my first action; quite frankly I was unprepared for seeing anyone
much less one of my buddies injured. We were also facing the
possibility of being overrun by the enemy. We were in a difficult
situation, tend to the wounded or defend ourselves? I was next to
Zornes and he was hit pretty bad and did not appear to be breathing.

Prior to going into the Army or going to Vietnam you wonder what would
happen if you or your fellow soldiers were hit, what would you do?
Would you run, try to hide, freeze up or start fighting back? I have
to admit I was scared and did take a second to pause, if I treated him
it would be the first time I had ever kissed a man. I immediately
started giving Zornes artificial respiration.

As I said we were getting hit by mortars or hand grenades, I think we all
knew this could be the end for the entire group. At this point there
were 5 of us left, 3 of us were tending to the injured, leaving on 2
guys to repel the enemy. Then out of nowhere came the Calvary, it was
just like the Western's I had seen many times before when I was a kid.

Without regard for their lives a group of soldiers ran through a
hedgerow near us, they were lead by Sgt. Lintl, Sgt. Kailua and
Tom "Doc" Tierney. They had heard the explosions and ran to our
rescue. I will never forget the relief I got when I saw them running
towards us, I knew that we would be OK.

Unfortunately, Zornes and Runge did not survive and joined the Vietnam
Veterans wall that day. We did our best to try and save them. In doing
so I found out that under extreme duress I could show courage and
clear thinking. It's what some men worry about, some get the chance
and some don't. Some think their tough until they get into the same
situation and wilt. All the men I served with on that day learned what
they are made of, they answered the call and served with distinction.

John Wolf

If you are related to Steve or know him, please give him my best and tell
him to drop me a line sometime. I imagine this story is unknown to
most of Steve's family or friends. My guess he is kinda quiet about
his heroics. From Wolfie


Here is another site where Vets are looking to contact other vets


The songs listed as #1 were taken from a Page By Bob Borst
WHICH LISTS ALL THE # 1 Songs by week since 1920
found @


Support the Troops

And stop @ Talking With Heroes



I know this page is about Friends Lost
But I feel compelled to add the following link
I am spearheading an effort To Help ALL Americans Show Support for Our Troops
and Pay It Forward

The items found there ALL have Military, Veterans and Families Honor System Discounts
which make great ANYTIME gifts for ANYONE
but especially soldiers
include some in a care package
Sites offering care packages to soldiers SHOULD BE MADE AWARE about the Great Items offered at

This Link Here and Support Our Troops

Some of the items found there were Packaged By Adult Handicapped


And Here is another Veterans All Around Help Page

Visit Justice For All

and read about the restoration
of one of the Full Size Statues of the Iwo Jima Flag Raising
It is found on Cape Coral FL

The Web site also presents other injustices that need to be addressed
To protect the rights those remembered on this page died for
and insure they DID NOT Die in vain
Founder Marian B. Scirrotto


Here are some emails and pictures I received from someone who was NOT IN Vietnam BUT
continues to try to help others remember
His name is Fielding Freed
Fielding tells me he was born during the VietNam war
It is my wish that others who could not possibly remember the war or the controversy that surrounded it
educate themselves about that era and help us Memorialize those who gave all for their country

God Bless You Fielding

Fielding stands on the side of the road leading to Folly Beach SC on Memorial Day and greets those heading for a day of fun
We should do as Fielding does and recognize the day is also sad for the families and friends of those who have died for us

Fielding strongly resembles actor Jeff Daniels in my opinion


Click Here for Another Song about those days ( 1964 to 1973 )
the lyrics are in the description - click on "Show More"

Words By Wade Smith
Music co written and Performed by Barry David Butler
(c) 2012 All Rights Reserved
Sebring, Florida
Click HERE for More ON Barry Butler



Here is another Song written by a friend of Mine - Erin Perkins - title is "TWENTY ONE"

About those lost too young
Click HERE to listen



Please see my page
To Find Missing and Abducted Women and Children


Here is a very important cause
N.A.S.A. and our military should adapt and use its drone
and satellite surveillance technology to
Help Find Missing and Abducted women and children
Solve other crimes and Protect Our Borders

Read more about the effort HERE

Here is a link to a case
which I have taken particular interest in
Mainly because Joanie Hall needs to be found
and because they help me with my Effort to Adapt the existing satellite picture
and drone surveillance technology to Find the Missing


Many of these men and women were exposed at work or during their military service and
are now suffering from asbestos-related diseases,
such as mesothelioma cancer, a devastating and nearly always fatal disease.

The site is a great resource for THIS ILLNESS .



MesotheliomaMore information for Veterans


More than 30 percent of Americans beset with mesothelioma
were exposed to asbestos during military service.
The mesothelioma center offers the most comprehensive and
updated information on asbestos exposure and mesothelioma treatments
if you have received a mesothelioma prognosis.
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Links to Vendor's Sites of the Clan MacKenzie Society in the Americas
Official web site for the Clan MacKenzie Society in the Americas ... Joseph Kilna MacKenzie (Singer/Songwriter) had his song "Sgt. MacKenzie" ...
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Music videoSong: Sgt McKenzie from We Were Soldiers ... by Joseph Kilna Mackenzie, about his grandfather, ... Veternas living veterans dying at the rate of 1200 per day in 2014 
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Mansions of the Lord
Mansions of the Lord. This song was sung by the West Point ... (excerpt from "Sgt. MacKenzie" by Joseph Kilna MacKenzie) Lay me doon in the caul caul groon ...
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Joseph Kilna Mackenzie Filmography - Yahoo! Movies
Joseph Kilna Mackenzie : find the latest news, photos, filmography and awards at ... (2002) song producer & performer ("Sgt. Mackenzie") Back to Top. Yahoo! ...
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