"Weavers Words" Vol. 5 Iss. 45 MADE IN AMERICA BY A PROUD AMERICAN!!! Date Sent: February 15, 2002 Back Issues: http://www.angelfire.com/art/weaverswords/ David Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 Phone: (317) 899-5747 davidc@iei.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% PLEASE DO YOUR PART AND DONATE TO SOME REAL HEROES!!! New York Firefighters 9-11 Disaster Relief Fund PO Box 65858 Washington D.C. 20035-5858 http://daily.iaff.org/fund.htm New York State Fraternal Order of Police 911 Police Plaza World Trade Centers Fund Hicksville, NY 11801 http://www.nysfop.org/WTCdisaster/Fund.html ALSO, DON'T FORGET TO SUPPORT YOU LOCAL FIRE & POLICE DEPARTMENTS!!! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ATTENTION NEW SUBSCRIBERS: 1.) Back issues of Weaver's Words can be found at: http://www.angelfire.com/art/weaverswords/ 2.) If you are new to Weaver's Words, more than likely you will read messages about a basket swap in progress. Basket swaps are organized by other weavers approximately every 2-3 months. So if a swap is in progress when you subscribe, be patient and a new swap will begin before you know it. Every subscriber is eligible for each swap as long as you fulfill you obligation from the previous swap. 3.) You can order a copy of the "Basketry Travel Companion", your guide to basket shops, galleries, exhibits and much more across the United States and world wide, by sending me $15.00 via PayPal (a free service) at: http://www.paypal.com/ (Send Payment To ka9zre@yahoo.com) OR Via money order / check at: David Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Slow Down! Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 12:33 PM From: The Keener Clan To: Aloha From Cloudy And Chilly Honolulu, Whoa, some of you all need to slow down and read the posts a tad more thoroughly. It was obvious that the post re: the Georgia convention was written "tongue in cheek" and nobody was getting dissed. And I don*t think anyone was ragging on the Koch family for Dollie*s post re: Weaver*s Stain. It was an excellent post and those of use who use a variety of stains simply responded that we used them successfully. No one said anything negative about Dollie. Some of you need to slow down, read carefully and think twice about posting something that can start yet another tiff on our wonderful Weavers Words. And Dollie, if you are coming this way, call me! And I*m thinking about joining the IBA again now that the cranky board member has left. A question... Let*s say your are a member of a guild and a teacher is coming to teach a class for your guild. (And members meaning those who pay dues and participate in the guild activities). Should those weavers who quit the guild for whatever reason be able to still benefit from those classes? Should they be allowed to attend or buy supplies or kits from the teacher? Or should these classes be a benefit for those people who stick with the guild through good times and bad? Just asking for your opinion in case another teacher comes our way. Cheryl Mackenzie... please email me again. My computer developed a nasty virus and I lost all my stored emails and my address book and I want to talk to you about this summer. Thanks for the help on U1, O3 and so on... Darlene emailed me right away with help, thanks, Darlene. Off to class--hope everyone is well and weaving much. Aloha, Lois %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Georgia Convention Sent: Sunday, January 03, 1999 11:20 AM From: Fran Steidel To: WeaversWords Hi Everyone, If you knew Mary Kuhr and Aunt Pattie you would know the comments were all in fun. They are the greatest ladies. Fran Steidel - who now lives in Florida and am missing my basket friends in North Carolina especially the Port City ladies. I can't wait til March for NCBA. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Syracuse, NY Area Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 9:40 AM From: Green, Tracy To: After seeing a few names come up with NY, I was wondering how many other basket weavers there were in the vicinity of Syracuse, New York. Would anyone be interested in getting a group of weavers together? Maybe forming a local guild? Tracey Green Warners, New York %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Visiting Teachers! Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:07:30 -0500 To: ka9zre@yahoo.com From: lboylegibson@juno.com Greetings from sunny Southern Indiana! So far, our unseasonably warm winter has been ideal for keeping the dye pots simmering outside. Usually we have weeks on end when it is too cold, snowy or just downright nasty to dye but not this year. We have experimented with new color combinations and will have some vibrant new variegated (space-dyed) selections at the upcoming conventions. For those of you in and around Indiana who would like to take a road trip to Bloomington,... In A Hand Basket will be hosting some fabulously fun and wonderful guest instructors! COMING SOON: On Saturday, March 2 Marla Helton will be teaching The Pottery Vase with Ridge Weave and the Pottery Vase with Tapestry Weave. Marla again returns on Saturday April 13 with her new Gourd Birdhouse. Saturday, May 11 Jean Cadmus May arrives in town with her fun and whimsical fish! Weave the "Catch of the Day" using various round reed techniques and bright colors. Pictures, times and class fees are on our web site: www.inahandbasket.com or please feel free to call us at 1-800-997-1948. There are still spaces available. This summer Patti Hawkins will be teaching two classes on Saturday and Sunday, June 29 and 30. We are finalizing the details for this exciting weekend and all the information will be on the web site by the end of February. In September, Betty Curry will be returning for a weekend of oak weaving and will be teaching four different baskets beginning Friday evening, Sept. 6. It will be difficult to choose between the Quilt, Potluck, Large Car or the Lunch basket so mark your calendar now and weave all four! We will happily give you lodging recommendations so start making your Fall Oak Weaving plans soon. A registration form and class fees will be posted on the web page in the next couple of weeks, but feel free to call us if you would like a form mailed to you. As a supplier of Weaver's Stain for many years now, I can honestly say that I remember only one complaint of a clogged can. Our customer laughingly admitted that not only had she NOT turned the can upside down to spray out the residual stain after use, she did not use the stain again for several weeks. She clearly was not blaming the product just admitting to failing to follow through with the steps for the "proper use of" a spray can! I gave her a lecture on neglecting her basket weaving for weeks at a time and offered to send her a replacement can. She declined the offer but promised to weave more, stain more, and follow the instructions! Then she ordered more reed and stain. Seriously folks, most of us small-business-basket-type shops really are into customer service and if you have a defective product we want to make it right. We can't help if we don't know you are unhappy. Happy Spring Weaving to everyone! Linda Linda Boyle Gibson, In a Hand Basket 107 N. College Ave. #1, Bloomington, IN 47404 Site-- 812-333-1817 ORDERS: 1-800-997-1948 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 9:04 AM From: Cooper, Luanne To: 'weaverswords-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com'; 'davidc@iei.net' Please unsubscribe me to this newsletter. I want no part of bashing other people and listening to people whine!!!! This newsletter has went WAY DOWNHILL from when it first came out!!! GROW UP!!!!!!! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Stuff Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:32 AM From: Joanne Howard To: David Collins Aloha, Now that I have crawled out of my hole, I am up and around. Thanks, Bert, for asking. Knee surgery went well. It was a challenge but being off crutches is the best!! I am getting ready for convention by getting stuff together to bring to new friends and old. I have worked Bert Lauderdale's cutie waxed linen kit. I am not sure if I did it right, but it sure is a great pouch to hold my chap stick!! It kept me plenty busy while sitting in the recliner. I got a really neat book about Appalachian White Oak basketry. All I could do was surf the net and shop from Amazon for two weeks. The book is fabulous and would love to know of any teachers around now. I haven't looked in convention books, but does anyone teach this at conventions? And Mary Z... I am still sorry... Aloha, Joanne %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: OOOOOPPPPPPPSSSSSS!!!!!! Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:22 AM From: Joanne Howard To: David Collins Hi, Ok. I get the joke now!!! Sorry Mary... I was just defending a pal!!! I couldn't believe you would say those things for real. I had heard such nice things about you! I am glad you were kidding AND I would gladly take my foot out of my mouth!!!! Speaking of knots in places... please forgive me, I was watchin' Pattie's back!! I guess this was lesson learned. Ask all the questions first before responding!!! Mary, I hope to meet you in NC... to make peace!! I'll bring ya' Kona coffee?! OK? Hope to see you then...and Pattie...like they said in the Toy Story movie... You got a friend in me! Aloha, Joanne %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: How can Mary type... Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:23:31 -0600 To: weaverswords-owner@yahoogroups.com From: "Judy Fearn" With her tongue planted firmly in her cheek like that? I'm glad to have my suspicion confirmed that she was being droll and not being a drag. :) >>>>>Subject: Mary Kuhr Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 19:15:07 EST From: AuntPattie@aol.com To: ka9zre@yahoo.com, mzkuhr@nc.rr.com To all of my friends out there who might have misunderstood Mary Kuhr's last post: Mary had a wonderful time at our convention & was talking tongue-in-cheek. I've had some E-mails from friends who were angry at Mary for what she said. I knew immediately that she was being facetious & I felt really complimented at how extreme she sounded. Trust me, Mary loves Georgia; the GBA loves Mary; I love Mary and everything is fine. To any of you who were concerned about someone talking bad about me, I'm glad you have my back but in this case she was only kidding. <<<<< A little smiley face at the end of the post might have saved her bloomers from the scorching they probably got (unless she's wearing asbestos undies). obBaskets: This last Saturday, I took a class from Marlene Meyer (along with some other ladies) in her home and it was fabulous. Even though I'm a bit of a novice for the basket she was teaching, she was patient, thorough, and delightful. I love my basket (yes, I did finish it--except for staining and you folks have me truly confused about that now!) and hope to take more classes from her. Apart from the techniques for the basket we made and some helpful hints, she showed us a shaving pony from her friend at East Troy Basketry--looks like our little local group may have to order at least one of those. Talk about making scarf joints easier! Judy in Rochester, MN %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: [weaverswords] "Weavers Words" V. 5 I. 43 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:04:59 EST From: Newmanlnewman@aol.com To: weaverswords-owner@yahoogroups.com I want to let everyone know that Missouri just sent out the convention books so if you are a member, you should be getting one in the mail! We went through the materials and books and were very pleased but discovered after many had been sealed that the printer had made an error on one book in about every 25 or so. These books were printed with blank pages on page 10 and 19. When you get your materials, check to see if there are blank pages where 10 and 19 should be. If so, email us at Newmanlnewman@aol.com or call 636 343 0831 and we will send replacement pages. We have put in hours on this convention but when I read about the IBA (Remi) and now the latest lament over the Georgia convention, it has me a little frightened to be the subject of a public flogging! Well at any rate, the Missouri convention book is now out. If you still would like to be a member and attend this event on June 7 - 9 2002 in the heart of the country, we are still accepting members. We have 100 wonderful baskets to offer on many levels and hope to treat everyone to a wonderful basket weekend. Linda N. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Critique Of The Georgia Convention Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:26:28 EST From: PJabaley@aol.com To: ka9zre@yahoo.com As the newly elected president of Georgia Basketry Association I just have to reply to the misunderstanding of Mary Zeh Kuhr's post concerning our convention. Anyone who knows Mary Kuhr is aware of what a lovely, fun-loving and wonderful person she is. No one has given the Georgia Convention MORE compliments in the past and she has posted them numerous times on WW. SHE WAS KIDDING -------- It was a JOKE!!!! Pattie Bagley and Kim Grantham did a fabulous job of coordinating the convention. We had a great time at our convention and SO DID SHE! I am afraid that some people did not read the last line of her posting. She LOVES coming to Georgia and WE LOVE having her! Patsy Jabaley, Alpharetta, GA %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: WW Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 03:56:33 -0800 From: Susan@basketsbysusan.com To: ka9zre@yahoo.com Reply-to: susan@basketsbysusan.com Angie/Kristin - I thought all reed was chemically treated for the bugs when harvested? Is it okay to use in compost? Same question for burning in your house in a fireplace - nothing is given off when burning? I make lots of scrap baskets but no matter how many, I still have bins and bins of scraps - that's why I really liked the idea of individually labeled boxes for all the sizes. I don't make wooden bottomed baskets much so I wouldn't use up small pieces that way. I've tried the wooden bottoms but didn't enjoy making them as much as woven bottoms. Like most weavers though, I have several bases in the stacks and stacks of supplies I've purchased so maybe I'll give them another try! A while ago, I bought 22" wooden hoops to make a melon basket on. These hoops are so large that they are put together with a reinforced wood piece/chunk over the seam. I will never use them. I have some other items I will probably never use like smoked reed, natural weaving materials like philodendron and some other knobby type vines, etc. Has WW ever considered some sort of swap board or means where we can trade things like this? Susan - NY www.BasketsbySusan.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Composting Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:18:05 -0800 From: "Sue Ann Boitnott" Reply-to: boitnotl@sensible-net.com To: ka9zre@yahoo.com Angie, As an organic gardener, your comment about composting small pieces of reed makes me wonder about the chemicals that are put on the reed before it is shipped into the states. If it is true that the reed is treated with chemicals before shipment, I would not want to use the scrapes of reed as compost. Can you confirm if reed is treated before shipment? Thanks in advance for your input. Sue Ann %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Aunt Pattie And GBA Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 22:57:29 -0800 From: "Mary Zeh Kuhr" To: "David Collins" To Everyone Who Misunderstood My "Report" on the GBA Convention: PLEASE accept my apologies if I offended you. After each of the Georgia conventions I have attended in the past, I wrote a sincere and well-deserved thank you for a great time and a beautifully executed convention. The Georgia women may be relatively new at the convention game, as someone mentioned, but they have played like pros since the beginning. Right from the start, everything was first class and I have felt privileged to be included. This year's convention was no exception. Patti Bagley was a superb choice for coordinator. My hateful remarks were, indeed, tongue-in-cheek, knowing that Pattie would not only understand what I was doing but would laugh that big, hearty, infectious laugh of hers when she read it. She is a lovely friend who RAN to her computer to tell you all not to be angry with me and, Pattie, I do so appreciate that. I've learned my lesson. Don't try to be cute. Just say thanks. So, thanks, Pattie, and all you other lame (oops! I'm still learning!) volunteers. My Best To You All, Mary Kuhr P.S. Thanks, Bert, for "getting it." %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weavers Words Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:10:41 -0800 (PST) From: "ricki smarte" To: Ka9zre@yahoo.com Mary, Pattie B emailed and explained that your post was "all in fun". Sorry for the misunderstanding. Hope you don't catch too much more grief. Karen Zane, Thanks for the notice on Betty Curry's class. I have been wanting to take one of her classes forever. I also heard she will be teaching a class in the fall at Linda Boyle-Gibson's shop in Bloomington "In A Hand Basket. I heard it was an event you don't want to miss. To all of you that are interested in the "distressing" technique. Give me a couple of weeks to find my notes and I will make a post. Remember, this is not my idea, this was a tip that Dolly provided some time ago on WW. I think you will love the look. But remember, its not for all baskets. Sue Smarte Cold in Indiana %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: WW Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 15:05:41 -0800 From: Susan@basketsbysusan.com To: ka9zre@yahoo.com Reply-To: susan@basketsbysusan.com Attention FINGER LAKES Basket Weavers Guild Members: I just added a new page to my site showing pictures from the 2000 Abundance of Baskets Convention and the 2001 gathering at Joan Belles' studio! Sorry it took so long to do anything with them! If anyone wants to send me the names of the people in each pic, I'd be happy to add captions. I'd also like to add pics form Stowe and WinterWeave - some other day! Susan (NY) www.BasketsbySusan.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: WW v51.44 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:29:06 EST From: LMBAUCH@aol.com To: weaverswords-owner@yahoogroups.com Hi All, Well that was a long WWs! I also appreciate the sharing of tips and support that you can get here. There are so many ways to go about weaving - or finishing a basket. I like the idea of knowing many different ways so that I can pick and choose from a lot of options. Stains and stuff: I do tend to use the coffee/tea stains or black walnut because they have been readily available - and cheap - (Especially Black walnuts that fell all over the part of PA I used to live in) And I liked the color and the look on people's faces when you explained the stain. Clare, I do use brush on mineral oil as a finish. It's non- toxic, non smelly and if you don't go over board, non- oily after you let it set for a day or so. Storage stuff: I have keeping bags marked with different sizes to put the scraps in when I cleaned off my basket space - or when I was cutting larger amounts for a class. Rubber banding the end so I could pull out a bunch near to the size for another basket was helpful - so is the suggestion of trashing them every once in a while. The garden compost idea was a new one I'll have to try - the soil at our new house is the pits/clay so that will he a handy hint, Angie, Susan, I am looking forward to Rochester's convention a great deal. Maybe I'll see you there next year I still haven't gotten used to the idea that Ohio could be relatively close! I'll have to check that out! Roberta - Does Pam still run Ozark Basketry? If so, she and her mom, Madeline, got me into this - especially the teaching part - I used to volunteer to help her teach baskets at the Clearwater Festival in NY. From a website on Chirsmons - http://www.umcs.org/chrismons/ "Chrismons are a type of Christmas Tree decoration used in many churches and often in the homes of Christians. The symbols used represent a variety of biblical and theological concepts that are well known among most believers. Technically, if the ornaments on a Christmas tree are comprised mostly of Christian symbols, the tree is known as a "Chrismon." Most Chrismons are white with gold decorations of beads, ribbon, glitter, etc." I have seen them on a number of Christmas trees in churches. It would be neat to weave some... though the tradition is that they are not to be made for profit. The ones I've seen were cut from a white Styrofoam type material - or done with beads... Twill, hmmmm? Thanks again David for keeping this going. This is such a neat place for new and experienced weavers to get together and to share. Keep on Weaving, Laurie in Western NY where the lake effect rules... %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Basket Moisture/Stabilizing Spokes Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 11:30 AM From: D. Nye To: davidc@iei.net Hi David -- hope this finds you and yours well -- and thank you. I have been enjoying several discussions that are active lately and the winter solitude of my shop compels me to make at least some attempt to be sociable. Here goes. Coloring and finishing baskets may help by protecting the exposed surfaces from dust, dirt, and other potential unwanted contaminants. It may also contribute to the esthetics of the basket. Finishes are, however, very poor in their ability to control -- much less prevent -- moisture movement in and out of a basket's fibres. There are several reasons for this. First, finishes applied after weaving gives only partial coverage to the total material surface area; a considerable portion of the surfaces remain untreated. Secondly, though different types of applications may vary in their ability to be water repellent, none of them are waterproof. It has been my experience that baskets thrive when they are used. One of the most unkind things that can be done to a basket is to place it on a shelf or peg in a nice warm -- and probably dry -- environment. I think baskets need some moisture for their own health. A baskets moisture content over time is not determined by its finish nearly as much as it's climate, season, and the micro-environment where it lives. Mechanically speaking, it takes three rows of weavers to stabilize the position of spokes when upturning spoke and weaver baskets. It could be referred to as the "chopstick effect", much like holding a stick between the first finger, thumb, and little finger. It provides a pinching force that helps provide some stability. I was initially taught this principle when I began weaving. I almost never use it any more, instead relying on patience, tolerance of ambiguity, and sound weaving technique that works for me -- most of the time! Daniel Beating back the windigo in my lonely winter shop %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Go Kelley Go! Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 11:14 AM From: Jill Choate To: Undisclosed-Recipient Go Kelley Go! The Iditarod maybe just around the corner but all the dog action is looking north this week. Our friend Kelley Griffin has been out on the trail from Fairbanks, Alaska to Whitehorse, YT Canada for about four days now. The first out of the chute Kelley has consistently stayed in the upper echelons of the race. She's going for "rookie of the year" and she just might make it. If you'd like to see her "live and personable" you can access www.yukonquest.com/race.php and select the streaming video icon at the bottom of the page. If you'd like to join us in our campaign to keep Kelley in the race you can bid on a Carved Moose Antler Basket. Current bid is $850.00. This is a one of a kind, classic Jill Choate basket with only five others in existence. You can be the next to own one. For more information access: www.jchoatebasketry.com/kelley.htm It won't be long before we're on the trail headed down to the Lower-48 to teach. Two more additions have been added to this summer's Lower-48 tour. The Quad Cities Guild of Iowa and we'll also be teaching at the AMB Convention in October. Although we can't bring the dog team we'll bring lots of slides and stories to make up for it. That way we can coax you up north for an adventure of a lifetime. Hey, Alaska is waiting for you and it's not too late to get here. Come on up for the start of the Iditarod - the Alaska Bush Basketry Retreat begins March 1st. How about Alaska in the summer? Beat the heat and come north in August when the fishing is fine! For more information access: www.jchoatebasketry.retreat.html Until we meet on the trail... Jill Choate, Talkeetna, Alaska %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Guilds Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:41:25 -0500 Organization: The Country Seat Reply-To: "Angie Wagner-Country Seat" From: "Angie Wagner-Country Seat" To: "Weavers Words David Collins" Hi all - if you are a member of a guild, we need you! - To look at our Guild page at www.countryseat.com/guilds.htm. Some of the information is old or contact person's e-mails bounce back. If you know the current info or can direct us to the proper person, please e-mail us at angearth@fast.net and let us know. We still have a few states with no guilds listed. If you live in that state and know of a guild, please send us an e-mail. If you know of a guild that is not on our Guild page, please tell us so that we may get it listed. Thanks, Angie The Country Seat http://www.countryseat.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: Rude behavior Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 23:12:06 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time) From: "Rae Hunter" To: weaverswords-owner@yahoogroups.com Well said Joanne, I don't know Patty and have not been lucky enough to attend a Georgia Convention, but I do know the value of volunteers. Your mother is a wise woman. Don't conventions have an evaluation form for participants to offer their comments for improvements and to say what they liked about it? Congratulations to Patty and to all the other volunteers for taking on a challenging role, Good on You!! I hope this one person's comments do not discourage you from future volunteering. We learn by doing, not by critiquing others. Have you ever noticed that when you point a finger at someone else, there are three pointing at you? That must be a message. As for the unsolicited volunteer judge, be brave and volunteer more positively, and keep your fingers busy weaving baskets. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Stuff Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 10:27 PM From: Tony Stubblefield To: David Collins/Weavers Words Rickie - thanks for the clarification on your post. I would probably be using Weavers Stain today if I still made many reed baskets, but I just don't seem to anymore. Clare - about mineral oil - The only time I have used mineral oil was in a class with Luke Block were he had us use it on our walnut handles. It made the walnut look very nice and dark. I haven't used it since though. Alene - about shellac - The mixture you describe, linseed oil, mineral spirits and shellac, sounds like something that would be used on a "traditional" Nantucket basket, though most Nantucket basket makers these days modern polyurethane's. I only tried using orange shellac once and found it to be a big sticky mess and to be too shiny for my tastes. I do use a combination of BOILED linseed oil and mineral spirits on my Nantucket handles, bases and rims as a "pre" finish before spraying them with a polyurethane. I also use this mixture on my Shaker handles, rims and molds. To actually answer your question, the shellac mixture would "seal" the basket completely and not be very good for the reed and I don't think it would look very attractive either, but that is my opinion (which many people don't agree with). Bert - about Leon Niehues class - You are so lucky to have gotten to take, not one, but two classes from him. Leon always displays at the St. Louis Art Fair each summer and I always stop by to talk with him. I have one of his baskets in my collection if anyone is interested in seeing the type of work he does http://www.jaskets.com/collection.html I am so not looking forward to going back to work tomorrow. I can't believe that my trip to NC is already over. It was great though. On Friday we made a beautiful miniature pounded brown ash kitten head basket made on a puzzle mold. The tiny basket was finished off with walnut rims and handle. I have to thank Susan Brooks for teaching the class and getting me to make such a small basket. I love miniatures, but have an aversion to making them myself. I was quite pleased with how the basket turned out and might even have to try my hand again as something diminutive. The round "bump bottom" basket we made with Eric Taylor on Saturday and Sunday was fun, but challenging. This basket too was woven of brown ash with walnut rims and handle, but it was on a normal size 8" mold. I was surprised at how much time it took to get the tapers just right on the double bottom, but of course that is what made the basket so special. All the baskets I make that have woven bottoms are always square so this round one was a nice change and a very special addition to my collection. If you have a chance to take a class from either Susan or Eric (like at the MO convention this June-hint-hint) please do, you won't be disappointed in the beautiful baskets you will go home with. I also made my regular stop at Suzanne Moore's NC Basket Works to pick up some cane and bone carvings and scrimshaw. Mail order is nice and convenient, but it is so much more fun to actually go to a store and explore and pick out your supplies yourself. Well, I need to finish putting away all my goodies (another new mold-like I need another hole in my head) and get psyched up for work. Take Care And Happy Weaving, Tony Stubblefield St. Louis, MO http://www.jaskets.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Mineral Oil Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:14:21 -0500 Organization: The Country Seat Reply-To: "Angie Wagner-Country Seat" From: "Angie Wagner-Country Seat" To: "Weavers Words David Collins" Hi Clare - I also use mineral oil (the regular kind from the drug or grocery store). It adds such a nice sheen. I also like the fact that it is for human consumption and odorless, so safe around food. I love linseed oil and have used that in the past, but the smell turns some people off, so that was the end of that. Angie The Country Seat http://www.countryseat.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Mineral Oil Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 02:51:25 -0500 From: "yent" To: ka9zre@yahoo.com Claire: Mineral oil is the only final finish I use. I have used it over tea stain, coffee stain, dyed reed, and natural walnut dye. I brush it on liberally inside and out. If it is warm outside, I sit it in the sun and the heat helps the basket soak up the oil. In nasty and cold weather, (and if the basket is small enough) I turn the pilot on in my oven and dry the basket in the oven. (Checking on it from time to time of course... he... he) Usually a couple of hours does it. By the way, I also treat my wooden bowls and utensils the same way. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: FW: School Project Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 3:47 AM From: Dianne Walbeck To: Friends, This is a message from my future sister-in-law. Please try to help her class out by sending a reply to the address below. Di February 13, 2002 To Whom This May Concern: We are a fourth grade class from Morrice, Michigan. Morrice is a small village north of Lansing. We are doing this project to study the geography of the United States and other countries in the world. Here is what we are asking you to do: 1. Forward this message to everyone you know. 2. Write us back at morriceorioles@hotmail.com - tell us where you live (city, state, and country) and any other information you want to give us. We will be keeping track of how many e-mails we receive and plotting them on a map. Thank you very much for your time. Miss Darner and fourth grade students. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: [weaverswords] "Weavers Words" V. 5 I. 42 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 05:03:02 -0600 To: weaverswords-owner@yahoogroups.com From: "Roberta Comstock" "Weavers Words" Vol. 5 Iss. 42 Fourth (and final) installment of Bert's trip report: Thought it would be a good thing to wind up with a list of the new basketry books I bought. First of all - the catalog of the juried show at the Arkansas Arts Center: BASKETS NOW: USA. Arkansas Arts Center, Little Rock, AR 72203-2137. 2002. ISBN 1-884240-27-5 $24.95. e-mail: . Outstanding color photos, artist's statements, background information about artists. And from Hawaii: Arbeit, Wendy. BASKETS IN POLYNESIA University of Hawaii Press, Honolulu, HI 96822. 1990. ISBN 0-8248-1281-6. Coconut frond, pandanus leaf, other materials, geographic styles and designs, techniques, mostly black and white photos, some color and line drawings. Hiroa, Te Rangi (Peter H. Buck). TWINED BASKETS: Arts and Crafts of Hawaii IV. Bishop Museum Press, Honolulu, HI. 1957 ISBN 0-910240-37-X. $8.95. Good black and white photos and line drawings of technical details. Morrison, Robert "Haole Bob" and Auntie Healani. THE GUIDE TO BASKET WEAVING: Creative Weaving with Coconut Palms. Island Heritage Publishing, 'Aiea, Hawai'i 96701-3202. 1000. ISBN 0-89610-439-7. $7.95. e-mail: An array of projects progressing from simple to complex, well illustrated with color photos. Stall, Edna Williamson. THE STORY OF LAUHALA. Petroglyph Press, Ltd., Hilo, HI 96720. Second Edition 2000 (First Edition 1953). ISBN 0-912180-52-8. $8.95. e-mail: Website: . History of the Pandanus Tree (Hala), Lauhala (leaf of the Hala), Lauhala Products, Care and Preservation, Weaving. These will certainly keep me busy for a while! Lois - Thanks for the great review of my class. It was a treat for me to meet the Aloha Guild. I thought I was being self-indulgent to work in a weaving session on our trip. What fun! Susan (upstate NY) - I save scraps of most any size over 6 inches long. The smaller ones get passed along to a friend whose grandson likes to make mosaics of them. Anything from about 8 inches long can be used in the little "ditty baskets" I teach for groups of non-weaver folks. A 3 X 5 or 5 X 7 stake base of most any size of reed can be woven into a small rectangular basket using up assorted short weavers. Plain weave makes an open base, but any twill will fill in solid. Experiment with new techniques and color combos on the sides. Flat reed is ok for rims on these and round reed makes a good rim filler if you want one. These are handy on a desk or dresser top for holding any small objects - sticky notes, paper clips, glue sticks, broken crayons, coins, safety pins -- whatever clutter you may have. A weaver as short as 18 inches will go around the small size. If you have a lot of short pieces of the same size, split a stake and do continuous weaving. The extra splices make for a sturdy basket. Just about any kind of reed pieces can be laid out in a double crossed pattern for a round cup or bowl shaped basket. Play with textures on these, such as starting with very fine weavers and working wider as you move up the sides. Practice different kinds of rims and borders to see what you'd like to do more of. Ditty baskets are also nice for favors or door prizes or stocking stuffers. They're great for Band-Aids or wrapped candies at a guild meeting. I also use a lot of scrap materials in my beachcomber ribbed wall pouches (rib baskets on driftwood). No two are ever the same. If you don't want to use them yourself, just about any kind of youth group can make use of assorted scraps in their craft projects. Ask at your church, day care center, school or park department. Some folks in the KC area used reed scraps as kindling in their wood stoves and fireplaces when so much of the city was without power because of the ice storm. To make a super fire starter, tie a small bundle and dip one end in melted candle wax. Janice Densch - Weave and chase is the same as chase weaving. It is used to keep the weave pattern when weaving continuously on an even number of stakes/spokes. It requires two weavers with tapered starting ends. Start the first weaver and weave about half way around the basket, then back up several spokes and begin the second weaver so that it goes under and over the opposite stakes from the first weaver. It will catch up to the first weaver and become the second row (above the first weaver). When you get near the place where you dropped the first weaver, drop the second one and resume weaving with the first. It will catch up with the start of the second and continue "chasing" it. Each time you nearly catch up, drop the weaver and resume weaving with the one that is ahead. Splice in new weavers as needed. When you get to the top of the basket, taper the ends on the opposite side from where upi began. Claudia - You can use any shallow basket with a curved handle to go over the flower girl's arm. If there are several flower girls, it's nice for them to have matching baskets. Accent the weaving with the bride's wedding colors and tie a bow or two with long streamers on the handle at the outside rim. Bert C. Lauderdale in Independence, MO %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: [weaverswords] "Weavers Words" V. 5 I. 43 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 05:05:02 -0600 To: weaverswords-owner@yahoogroups.com From: "Roberta Comstock" "Weavers Words" Vol. 5 Iss. 43 Happy Valentine's Day Weavers! Has anyone else noticed how many great looking weaving opportunities are available all over the country these days? It may just be that WW gives us an opportunity to share the news about them, but I really do think there are more classes and workshops than there used to be, say five years ago. Keep that information coming! Woven circle met on the 10th of this month, having been delayed a week by the ice storm. Mary Ann Allen taught a "Keeping Room Wall Basket" that is a yard long and hanks on the wall (or a handrail) by means of a pair of bushel handles on the back side. I think I'll use mine for caps and gloves near the coat rack in the garage. Irene Lambrecht & Kay - To get information about the 4th Annual Silver Dollar City Basket Seminar & Workshop, e-mail your request to: or call 800-695-1353. The catalog arrived a couple of days ago. It lists 31 instructors offering 111 classes. Some of the classes are repeated. Some of the instructors are couples. My vase and bark necklace are each offered twice (Friday & Sunday), and my new trophy basket is offered on Saturday. Check it out! Jill - I was wondering about how close to reality "Snow Dogs" might be. We plan to see it soon. I'll be thinking of you. See you at the MO Convention in St. Louis in June. That catalog also arrived a couple of days ago. And today I got the flyer for the Stowe, VT, Basketry Festival. Eve Sumsky - Love your description of the "Whatever" basket. Will try that soon. Darlene - Rims Can be spliced. Just make sure the inside splices and the outside slices fall in different locations. Bert in Independence %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: [weaverswords] "Weavers Words" V. 5 I. 44 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 05:10:23 -0600 To: weaverswords-owner@yahoogroups.com From: "Roberta Comstock" "Weavers Words" Vol. 5 Iss. 44 Beth-In Southeast Texas - Maybe you need to have a scrapping bee with your basket scraps? Have some friends over and have them make some 'Whatever' or 'Ditty' baskets. Minnie DelRoss - Thanks for the good descriptions of space dyeing and the twill for Lois' base. I think what her instructions had missing was the starting under on the row after the over and alternating the over-unders from row to row. It wasn't exactly a 3:1 twill. You made it nice and clear. (I knew someone would deal well with those questions.) I've been so wordy lately; it feels like time for me to be a bit quieter for a while. So I will. Bert in Independence %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: [Fwd: From Tucker - A Virus I May Have Passed On - Important] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 2:15 PM From: Nancy Brandt To: Attachment: Forwarded Message Subject: From Tucker - A Virus I May Have Passed On - Important Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:17:05 EST From: Tucpropmgt@aol.com To: Tucpropmgt@aol.com Hello To One And All, Sorry about this- Please heed now. I checked all 8 of my computers in my office and all were infected, as well as my two computers at home. READ AND HEED. I got this message from someone in my address book who got the virus sent to him, and I wasn't even in the original recipient's book... I learned about a virus today, checked my hard drive, found the virus and deleted it. Sorry about this, but I apparently received it unknowingly and it replicates itself and sends out to all in the address book. It is easy to find and destroy, but it apparently lies dormant for 14 days, then kills your hard drive, so please check for it and if found, delete it and send the warning to all in your address book. We got this virus and chances are you have it too, since you are in our address book. It lies dormant for 14 days then kills your hard drive. Here is how to stop it. If you've got it, send this e-mail to everyone in your address book. Print this out and follow the directions... Directions For Removal... 1. Go to 'start', then to 'find or search' (depending on the computer). 2. In the 'search for files or folders' type in sulfnbk.exe... this is the virus name. 3. In the "look in" make sure your are searching Drive C. 4. Hit the 'search' button, or "find". 5. If the file shows up, (It is an ugly blackish icon that will have the name 'sulfnbk.exe') DO NOT OPEN IT!!!!!!!! 6. Right click on the file... go down to delete, and left click on delete. 7. It will ask you if you want to send it to the recycle bin... say YES! 8. Go to your desktop (where all of your icons are) and double click on the recycle bin. 9. Right click on 'sulfnbk.exe' and delete again... or empty the entire recycle bin. If you find this in your C drive, please send this e-mail to everyone in your address book because that is how it transfers itself... (By sending itself to everyone in your address book and activating 14 days later...) then it destroys your hard drive. PLEASE check NOW for it and get rid of it... as I said, this message was sent to me by someone who had it in his address book, I was not even in the original recipient's address book... DO THIS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good Luck!!! Tucker Irizarry Associated Brokers Realty, Inc. 900 Wadsworth Blvd. Lakewood, CO 80215 Phones: 303-237-7676 Ext 208 office 303- 237-7674 FAX %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% That's All For Now Folks. 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