"Weavers Words" Vol. 5 Iss. 43 MADE IN AMERICA BY A PROUD AMERICAN!!! Date Sent: February 08, 2002 Back Issues: http://www.angelfire.com/art/weaverswords/ David Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 Phone: (317) 899-5747 davidc@iei.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% PLEASE DO YOUR PART AND DONATE TO SOME REAL HEROES!!! New York Firefighters 9-11 Disaster Relief Fund PO Box 65858 Washington D.C. 20035-5858 http://daily.iaff.org/fund.htm New York State Fraternal Order of Police 911 Police Plaza World Trade Centers Fund Hicksville, NY 11801 http://www.nysfop.org/WTCdisaster/Fund.html ALSO, DON'T FORGET TO SUPPORT YOU LOCAL FIRE & POLICE DEPARTMENTS!!! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ATTENTION NEW SUBSCRIBERS: 1.) Back issues of Weaver's Words can be found at: http://www.angelfire.com/art/weaverswords/ 2.) If you are new to Weaver's Words, more than likely you will read messages about a basket swap in progress. Basket swaps are organized by other weavers approximately every 2-3 months. So if a swap is in progress when you subscribe, be patient and a new swap will begin before you know it. Every subscriber is eligible for each swap as long as you fulfill you obligation from the previous swap. 3.) You can order a copy of the "Basketry Travel Companion", your guide to basket shops, galleries, exhibits and much more across the United States and world wide, by sending me $15.00 via PayPal (a free service) at: http://www.paypal.com/ (Send Payment To ka9zre@yahoo.com) OR Via money order / check at: David Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: [weaverswords] "Weavers Words" V. 5 I. 42 Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 21:26:53 -0600 From: "Karen Booth" To: weaverswords-owner@yahoogroups.com Janice, In my experience weave and chase meant that you start one weaver on one side of the basket and another on the opposite side. You will then weave with the first weaver until you begin to overlap the second start up. Let the first weaver rest. Pick up the second weaver weave it about once around the basket until you catch up to the first weaver. Let this second weaver rest. Resume weaving once around the basket with the first weaver. Continue in this manner taking turns with each weaver. They "chase" each other around the basket. You will want to pick long weavers, as this is a way to continuously weave around the basket for many rows with out cutting off and starting for each row. I have a question about reprinting patterns. As a teacher of baskets I often find that the original pattern either has errors or design elements that I want or need to change. Generally, we take some time at the beginning of class to go over the pattern and write in corrections and changes so the students can refer to them if they want to use the pattern again. We firmly believe in getting original patterns from the authors when they are available. The question lies in where do you draw the line and scrap the original and totally re-write the pattern just giving credit to the original author for the inspiration. Most teachers worth their salt can look at 90% of the baskets out there and write up a pattern from just a picture. These same teachers usually have the integrity not to do just that and are more than willing to get the original patterns from the authors. We have a few problem patterns that are just totally inadequate for teaching purposes as they leave out too many details that the beginner weavers need. On one occasion, using our own words, pictures and descriptions we re-wrote the pattern and used it to teach the class. After conversations with the original author and sending the revised pattern to her, we discover she finds the pattern to be complete in its original form---no revisions needed. She seemed okay with our teaching the class, but obviously we could not in good faith distribute the revised pattern. What do other teachers do in this case? Is there a better way? %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: IBA Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 11:59:44 -0600 To: ka9zre@yahoo.com From: "Paula Gulley" I read and enjoy all issues of Weavers Words even though I rarely post anything. However, I feel the need to say something briefly about the IBA. I was present at the very first "convention", held, I believe, at a church camp in the woods. I was impressed by the incredible amount of work done by the committee, the enthusiasm and the grace under pressure. Things were not perfect, but it was so much fun. I have attended every other convention IBA has hosted except one, and I drove to Indianapolis from St. Louis to shop the vendors and see what was going on even though I had to drive back home the same evening. I have been in classes with wonderful people (students), and I have been in classes where people (students) were crabby and complained about everything. I have taken classes from excellent teachers, and a couple from teachers who were very talented artists but perhaps not the best teachers. After all these years I can honestly say I have NEVER met a member of the convention committee or the IBA board who was not gracious and helpful. I have often been thanked for attending! As soon as I get each New Year's calendar the first dates on it I circle are the dates for the IBA convention. Thank you IBA board and convention committees past and present for a wonderful organization and wonderful conventions. Here's one member who truly appreciates everything you do! Sincerely, Paula Gulley in St. Louis %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: Flower Girl Basket Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 11:32:38 EST From: SharonZ135@aol.com To: ka9zre@yahoo.com Claudia: I have made a small version of Lyn Siler's Grandma's "Bow Tie" Basket to be used as a flower girl basket & also full sized for table arrangements. If you get a small swatch of dress fabric to send to Rit they will send you a matching dye recipe. If you need the address you can e-mail me. sharonz135@aol.com Sharon Z. Also from sunny southern RI. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: [weaverswords] "Weavers Words" V. 5 I. 42 Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 14:55:27 +0000 From: "Kathy Fullerton" To: weaverswords-owner@yahoogroups.com >>"a shortcut that real weavers would not use".<< Susan, I had a similar experience. I once had a teacher tell me that twining a base was "the lazy woman's way". I never went back. I make a point of telling my students that whatever way they get the job done is fine. If the "rules" keep weaving from being fun for them or me, why bother? Kathy Fullerton Clarksville, TN %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: [weaverswords] "Weavers Words" V. 5 I. 42 Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 07:31:17 -0600 From: "Lin Karrels" To: weaverswords-owner@yahoogroups.com Susan (Upstate NY) Question for the group: What does everyone do with their scraps? ...Hi Susan, I'm like you and can't bear to throw out anything longer than 10 inches, so my solution was to get a bunch of old cloth pillowcases and mark each with a magic marker as to size for flat and round reed, another for rimming material and another for lashing, etc. As I have leftovers I place to the side while weaving and then throw them into the appropriate pillowcase when I'm done. They can be hung from a peg with a piece of twine or jute. The cloth pillowcase allows the reed to dry without molding and I can tell just by feeling the bag if it's worth rooting through looking for something. I also keep a bag for the little reindeer ornaments and stars and if I have the appropriate reed I just cut to size before throwing in the bag and when the season rolls around I've got bunches of reed all cut and ready to go. Lin Karrels Ancient Tree Studio North Central Illinois %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weavers' Words Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 03:39:44 EST From: Linhebert@aol.com To: ka9zre@yahoo.com To: Peg in Iowa and those wanting to read the entire text of the Weavers Stain spraying tips As a Weavers Stain supplier, we have the entire text of Mollie's spraying tips on our website on the DYES and STAINS page. The Weavers Stain site of course also has it. To: Claudia Hopkins in Rhode Island Re: flower girl baskets Our Kansas Flower Basket is a really nice one for flower girls. I would just not weave it as tall or wide. Easy to adjust as you go. From Northwest Arkansas, 6 inches of snow tonight and still coming down... If you haven't visited our site lately, give it a click! Linda Hebert V. I. Reed & Cane http://www.basketweaving.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Childrens Basket Patterns Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 02:47:11 EST From: Baksue@aol.com To: ka9zre@yahoo.com I have been asked to teach a basket to sixth grade students. The time limit for finishing the basket will be three hours. Does anyone have a good pattern for beginning students of this age? Thanks for any suggestions you have. If you would like to contact me personally my email address is baksue@aol.com. Thanks, Sue Bakken %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Taxes Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 21:31:51 -0600 To: ka9zre@yahoo.com From: "Dave & Leslie Plourde" Hi Weavers, Just wanted to send a note of thanks for those of you who answered my plea for tax information. I appreciate it! That is what is best about this forum- the ability to ask questions and get some really great answers! Now I am awaiting the answer to how to get so many baskets out of one can of weaver's stain! Leslie in western WI where it is supposed to be 42 (ABOVE ZERO!) tomorrow %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: What To Do With Scrap Reed? Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 12:44 PM From: Jayne L. Humphreys To: davidc@iei.net I have nice size boxes designated with magic marker as to the width of reed in the box. When a piece of reed becomes to short for what I am weaving it goes into the appropriate box. When I am cutting stakes for a basket I check out my scrap boxes. I keep doing this till the pieces are too short for any pattern I have and only then do I pitch the reed. This also applies when I need a short weavers in baskets. I hate to throw away a really good piece of reed if I can use it somewhere else. Especially since sometimes the reed I get only has some really good pieces of reed in a bundle. I have a question. What happened to the extensive web site David maintained for a few years, besides the archive site of newsletters, this had supply sources and lots of other resource sites and related jump off sites? It was there this spring and is now gone. Has something happened to David being able to keep this site up? I really appreciate David and this newsletter. I feel connected to others of like minds. I am disabled and have fibromyalgia along with other problems both mental and physical. In not working at a traditional job anymore, I feel cut off from people. Great news though, the antler baskets are coming along great since I started weaving again a couple weeks ago. I should have a really good display of baskets come July for the Cedar Lakes Arts And Crafts Fair in West Virginia (where I live a couple of hours away). I better go, this got a little long. Thanks, Jayne %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Space Dyed Reed Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 11:51 AM From: BasketArtistry@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Dear David-if this has already been covered, and will leave everyone bored beyond belief, please feel free to delete...I am not the world's greatest dyer of reed...and to be able to space dye is my dream...anyone have any foolproof instructions or suggestions? Methods, timing, drying time...I need help with it all! Once again, David, thank you for all you do for us! Sue Preuss in sunny Waukesha, Wis. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Upper NY Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:45 AM From: Nancy Brandt To: Weavers words Hello Weavers, To Laurie and Susan, Are you near Saratoga? Are there any basketry shops in that area? I have misplaced a catalog from a basketry shop in Tinton (?) Falls, NJ; could anyone give me an email address or phone number? Nancy in Md. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Remi Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:38 AM From: Wanda Baker To: David Collins Cc: Dear Remi And Fellow Weavers Words readers, I thought that we had finally heard the last of your complaining, but I guess that I was wrong. You also wrote me a letter and I was grateful to hear from you, as I mistakenly thought that we had heard the last of you. Remi, you must be a very young person with very little self-respect because you obviously feel the need for attention, and the only way you can get it is to continue to berate other people and groups. Especially ones you say you don't know. You remind me of a young school child that had a hard time getting along with others, because he or she wants to be in the limelight all of the time, and can't remain there with out snitching or tattling on other people to get the attention back at you. I really feel sorry for you if that is all you have to do with your busy schedule. Your note read " I hate very badly about bringing up the IBA subject to the light once again" but you really looked forward to finding another excuse to bring it up. Clare just said to you what all the rest of the people at IBA, and I dare say Weavers Words people were thinking, and that was good riddance to you. You do like to stir up trouble. If you didn't you would have let the letter rest and as the old saying goes, quit beating a dead horse. Our IBA is stronger than ever because of your letters, and our attendance is as good if not better than last years was. For that I should thank you. You don't want to have anything to do with the Indiana Basketmakers, and that is fine with me, and a whole lot of other people, so please just let it be. Please, the people of Weavers Words are tired of you petty complaining, and trying to stir up trouble in IBA, and would love to get past this. Let this be the last negative thing we hear from you. As the old saying goes, " If you can't say something good about someone, don't say anything at all". That is a nice way to live life. Wanda Baker %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Minwax Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:45 AM From: Tony Stubblefield To: David Collins/Weavers Words I have used both Minwax wood stains and "homemade" stains such as coffee and tea on my reed baskets for over a dozen years now and I haven't noticed that the Minwaxed baskets being any more brittle than any other. Over time they have all gotten more brittle. The first basket I ever made (actually second, the first one I don't have anymore) is stained with Minwax and I use when I go camping. It tends to get banged around a lot and besides one broken lashing, it is just as sturdy as the day it was made. I guess my only experience with tung oil is on one of my early Nantucket baskets where I used it as a "hand rubbed" finish and the end result was a very hard finish more like a varnish. I am NOT saying that there is anything wrong with Weaver's Stain and I definitely agree with them that anything that doesn't allow the reed to breath will ultimately shorten the life of the basket. But, from my personal experiences, I haven't seen Minwax stains causing a problem for my baskets. Well, I am off to NC and I need to get my car packed up. Take care and happy weaving, Tony Stubblefield St. Louis, MO http://www.JASkets.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Minwax, Etc. Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 3:23 AM From: The Keener Clan To: Aloha from cool and comfy Honolulu, I have used MinWax for years on my baskets and haven*t had a problem. I mix the MinWax with equal parts mineral spirits and 1/3 part boiled linseed oil and spray it on the basket. My reeds don*t make cracking noises nor have they "dried out". I would never think of using it straight from the can nor would I use any MinWax that contained polyurethane. I sometimes use the spray MinWax and sometimes use Weaver*s Stain but I find them all to be fairly equal. I like mixing my own MinWax as I can control the shades (half Golden Oak and half Early American is my favorite). And a word about the IBA... way back when I was a member, a board member was extremely rude to me when I asked a simple question and I decided then I didn*t want to be a member, so my membership ran out. Not every organization is for everyone and we must pick and choose the ones that meet our own personal needs. I wove a basket today that confused me--well, the instructions did. I laid out the base with the long spokes laying horizontal (and fillers in between). The pattern said to weave the vertical spokes" U1, over 3, U1, over 3 and so on". I hate to sound like a dimwit, but what is "so on"--I didn*t know what to do with the second spoke. I ended up weaving the base in an over/under pattern and it turned out fine, but I*d really like to know what sort of base that was supposed to be--a sorta twill? Aloha, Lois %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: About Min Wax Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:41 AM From: Joanne Howard To: David Collins Aloha, I don't know if I missed something about min wax. I did catch that used by itself, it will dry out baskets. I have used a mixture of min wax stain, boiled linseed oil, and odorless mineral spirits. Equal parts. I have had good results. It was all I knew to use for years. Then came, WEAVER STAIN!!!! The goddess of all stains. Now I use that exclusively. I just love the finish and ease of staining. Maybe I would go back to minwax mixture if I had a large quantity of baskets to stain, but I am loyal to Weaver Stain. Hope that helps. Joanne Howard %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: [weaverswords] "Weavers Words" V. 5 I. 42 Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 11:13:23 EST From: JWOlney@aol.com To: weaverswords-owner@yahoogroups.com << I feel very badly about bringing the IBA subject to light once again; however, I feel the IBA Membership should realize the type of people that belong to this organization and what they bring to the table. >> I'm sorry, but I must take umbrage at this remark. I will admit that I do not read every WW that comes out anymore because I simply do not have time, so I have not read whatever posts have preceded this one.... However: *I* am one of the "type of people that belong to this organization"! I assume that implies that I am not a nice/good/friendly/honest, etc. person. How would you know that Remi? You don't know me! As for what I bring to the table: a lot of the best materials I can find at the moment that are prepared in the best way I know how. I also bring knowledge that I have spent over 22 years accumulating, a willingness to share it, and (I hope) a well-written pattern that explains whatever I might forget to mention in class. What's wrong with that? I've always thought that was what I was supposed to bring to the table... at least my contract says so! I have taught at the IBA conventions for a long time now and have met a lot of people there... both students and other teachers. I have to say that I have found all of them to be lovely people that I would like to know better. I do know there have been some problems with the organization recently, but I sincerely hope they can be resolved since I know and like people on both sides of the fence. You, Remi, may feel very badly about raising the IBA issue again, but I do not feel the least bit bad about taking you to task for condemning an entire organization just because you are apparently unhappy with a certain portion of it! You have maligned a large number of truly wonderful people. Judith Olney %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weavers Words / Distressing, Etc. Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 13:31:12 -0800 (PST) From: "Ricki Smarte" To: ka9zre@yahoo.com Peg Weston - I will look back and find my old copy of WW that lists the distressing steps. I don't trust myself enough to do it from memory. It's been a year or so since I have done them. At least it feels like it's been that long. I will also put together a list of tips that dolly's husband gave us at convention and forward that along as soon as I can. Maybe dolly or her husband would like to share these tips again. Hint... Thanks for asking. I think you will really like the distressed look. It's not for every basket but the effect is nice. Karen Zane - thanks for the information on the Kay Kohler class in Greenfield. I looked on the map and it looks like its on 1 1/2 hours north of me. I few years ago I purchased at the NC & Indiana conventions some really cute small ceramic pieces that you could use for making handles. They are approx 1"long and have flowers on them. They are very high quality and make great handles for small baskets. I can't remember the vendor I purchased them from. If anyone out there can help me I would appreciate it. I bought 24 of them and I used them to make Xmas gifts one year and now wish I had bought more... You know how that is. Remi, Remi, Remi... Now you are posting private emails. What's next? I am wondering did you share all of your correspondences with Clare or just the final result after you had made her mad. You started out on a negative note with this organization and now expect them to be courteous and kind when they are ducking your constant sniper fire...get real! For someone that is a new weaver or new to Indiana (I forget which it is now) you seem to know more than the normal "NEW" guild member. Your comments have continuously been one sided, not giving the organization a "Real" chance, but you expect them to be NICE to you... please! If you aren't a "PLANT" (and I don't mean a vegetable) then you need to go weave a basket. It's a great stress relief. What's wrong girls, aren't you getting enough attention at home that you have to stir that pot one more time. I bet you beat dead horses as well. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Sue Smarte Proud to be weaving again (and quilting) %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weavers Words Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 13:18:51 -0600 From: "Dianne Gleixner" To: "'ka9zre@yahoo.com'" To L. Wengler - regarding the acrylic bowl. I've seen bowls like this in the crafts section at Wal-Mart. I'm not sure of the exact dimensions, but you could check if you have any Wal-Mart's nearby. The bowls were by the paints and scrap booking stuff in the store I go to. Another option is the see if Willowes would give you their suppliers name and number, although their supplier may not be able to sell directly to an individual. Another option for those of you traveling who want to do something (besides crossword puzzles) on the plane, is to use an envelope opener as your "cutting tool". The kind of opener where you stick one edge under the envelope flap, and there is a small blade enclosed that cuts open the top edge. About the size of a business card, but has a sort of "finger" extending across the top. Obviously this type of thing won't cut thick stuff, but should work great on yarn or waxed linen. Kathleen Parrott - you wrote, "Also, I bring plenty of Band-Aids and ibuprofen! It's a great time!" in your last post. I must admit, I chuckled a bit on this one. I know what you mean, but usually those two sentences don't go together too well! You made me smile! Gabriela Markova - thanks for writing in! It's nice to hear from you and know that you are there to help anyone who is having a problem with one of your patterns. Your baskets are beautiful! Keep up the good work. Regarding the use of scraps - Some of the ways I use them include using them on wood bottomed baskets - the spokes are much shorter than you need for traditional woven-bottomed baskets. Also, add a row of French randing to a basket - French randing uses short pieces, and you can use different widths and colors at the same time. Try some miniature baskets, like Linda Boyle Gibson's Mini Marathon and Mini Marathon 2. These tiny baskets are only a few inches and use pieces around 7 or 8 inches long. (I'm sure other places carry the patterns, but I've seen them at BasketPatterns.com and The Country Seat) Another thing I do is make a basket with many different colors woven up the side. One I really like doing is Jeremiah's Basket, and use many different colors of 1/4" reed up the sides. Since each row is a different color, it's also possible to weave 1/2 of a row one color, and the other half another color. It may sound funny, but really turns out beautiful! You can also use some of the scraps as fillers for your base, or overlays on the side of a basket, or as decoration on a wrapped handle. Be creative, try something a little different! Claudia - for flower girl baskets, go to BasketPatterns.com and type "flower girl" in their search box. Only a few come up, but you may be able to get an idea from one of them and go from there. Also, try searching the word "wedding" - although this one didn't seem as appropriate. Really though, just about any basket could be a flower girl basket if you embellish it right. I made a Nantucket basket a few years ago for my daughter to carry in my sister-in-law's wedding. The florist made a special arrangement that fit in the basket. It was beautiful! I'd like to let everyone know that registration for the Lake Country Basket Guild's Basket Fest is well underway, but there is still time to register, with many classes still available! This event is held on the campus of Waukesha County Technical College, in Pewaukee, WI (a western suburb of Milwaukee) This is our 9th annual Fest and will be held May 3, 4, & 5. (Always the first weekend in May!) Teachers include: Sue Canafax, Patti Hawkins, Mark Katz, Joan Moore, Cathryn Peters, Jeff and Marlys Sowers, Tressa Sularz, and Judy Zugish. I am in charge of registration this year, so let me know if you'd like more information. We are also looking for donations for our goodie bags and our silent auction. This is a perfect way to promote your business! From catalogs, to discount coupons or gift certificates, to patterns and supplies. Any and all donations are greatly appreciated! If you'd like to contribute, send me an e-mail at dgleixne@strong.com and I'd be happy to help you. Dianne Gleixner - SE WI, where we finally have snow and cold, but I'm ready for it all to go away now. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Silver Dollar City Workshop Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:41 AM From: Heinz Lambrecht To: davidc@iei.net Does anyone have info on the Silver Dollar City Workshop? I'm interested in getting on the mailing list and don't know who to contact. Irene Lambrecht %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: WW/ IBA Convention 2002 Plans Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:41 PM From: Mark Koch To: davidc@iei.net Hello Everyone!!!! Just wanted to let everyone know that the 2002 IBA Convention Coordinators and Committee Chairs are putting the final touches on this May's convention event. Registrations are still coming in and to date they exceed the what they were last year at this time. Planning is a lot of work, and fun as well. Don't worry, if you forgot to mark the volunteer box on the registration form. You can volunteer by going to the registration desk and signing up in person. Volunteering is the best way to get involved and meet new friends. For many of you that are attending, please make sure you have made your hotel reservations NOW. They must be made prior to April 1st so you can take advantage of the group discount. That's extra money you can spend on shopping.... :) For those of you that think it's too late to register and join in the fun, It's NOT. Contact Rhonda Reinesch at rreinesch@aol.com Please visit IBA's website and see the great additions that were recently added; www.indianabasketmakers.com We always wonder how can convention get any better, but it does each year!!! Come join in the festivities and see for yourself. Weave a little, eat a little, meet new friends and great teachers, shop a lot, and go home with wonderful memories. I can't think of anything better than that. See You In May, Dollie Koch Indiana Basketmakers Assn, Inc. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Garden Of Daily Living Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:34 PM From: Wanda Baker To: David Collins To David And Fellow Weavers, I just sent a very not nice letter to Reme, aka basket lady, by way of Weavers Words. I was very angry with her and the fact that she has been so negative about something she isn't truly knowledgeable about. She just keeps bringing it up in this forum. I left the computer to go and cool off as she was, and is, a very upsetting young lady. I then came back into the room and this came from my niece. I wanted to share it with you all as well as with Remi. I would like for her to please read this as I did, and maybe she can quit bad mouthing people that she has never met. Weavers Words is not a forum for negativity. At least not the way she has been so negative. Lets get back to questions and answers about weaving, as it should be. Wanda FOR THE GARDEN OF YOUR DAILY LIVING PLANT THREE ROWS OF PEAS: 1. Peace of mind 2. Peace of heart 3. Peace of soul PLANT FOUR ROWS OF SQUASH: 1. Squash gossip 2. Squash indifference 3. Squash grumbling 4. Squash selfishness PLANT FOUR ROWS OF LETTUCE: 1. Lettuce be faithful 2. Lettuce be kind 3. Lettuce be patient 4. Lettuce really love one another NO GARDEN IS WITHOUT TURNIPS: 1. Turnip for meetings 2. Turnip for service 3. Turnip to help one another TO CONCLUDE OUR GARDEN WE MUST HAVE THYME: 1. Thyme for each other 2. Thyme for family 3. Thyme for friends WATER FREELY WITH PATIENCE AND CULTIVATE WITH LOVE. THERE IS MUCH FRUIT IN YOUR GARDEN BECAUSE YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Virtually Be Here Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:28 PM From: Jill Choate To: Undisclosed-Recipient Virtually Be Here, Want to visit us in Talkeetna, Alaska? Well, thanks to Disney's new movie, "Snow Dogs" you can visit us without ever leaving home. Even though the name of the town in the movie is "Tolketna" the real thing is easily deciphered if you've been here. In real life it's Nagley's General Store versus "Neeley's" and it's the Talkeetna Roadhouse versus "Tolketna Roadhouse". "Beautiful downtown Talkeetna" looks much the same as depicted in the show and the characters that surround the town could have been hand picked. Now the scenery is a bit different since the movie was filmed in BC, Canada, (Alaska is much more breath taking) but the dogs are the originals. They came from Big Lake, Alaska. How about that mushing stuff, is all that true? A lot of it is, especially for beginners. The trials and tribulations of learning how to mush make for great story material. However, I've never owned dogs that lined out quite so neatly and waited patiently for me to pull the hook. They must do some great dog training in Big Lake. Come on up! We're waiting for you to join us in March for Iditarod. For more information access: http://www.jchoatebasketry.com/retreat.htm Want to bid on a GREAT basket? Help our musher Kelley Griffin in her race efforts by placing a bid on a Carved Moose Wall Pocket. Latest bid: $850.00. For more information access: http://www.jchoatebasketry.com/kelley.htm Go for the big one! ABBR-Fish On is the fishing enthusiasts dream. Baskets, scenery, fishing, and a trip on the scenic Alaska Railroad it all waits for you in August. For more information access: http://www.jchoatebasketry.com/retreat.htm Until we meet in "Tolketna"... Jill Choate Talkeetna, AK Jill Choate Email: jill@jchoatebasketry.com On The Web: www.jchoatebasketry.com Alaskan Bush Basketry Retreat: www.jchoatebasketry.com/retreat.html %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: MinWax Wood Finish Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 16:32:58 -0800 (PST) From: "L. Wengler" To: ka9zre@yahoo.com I appreciate all the comments about basket stains. I have to disagree with many of you regarding MinWax stains in general. I have been using MinWax "Wood Finish" spray stain for many years. My personal favorite is their Golden Oak color #2108BA. This finish has not made any of my baskets hard. All of my baskets are as supple as they were the day I made them. This particular finish is oil based and does not contain polyurethane and says so on the back label. Make sure you use the one that is labeled "Wood Finish" by MinWax. I agree that there are many different spray stains offered by MinWax and other manufacturers and many do contain polyurethane. These do tend to harden baskets; however, the spray I mentioned above does not contain polyurethane, nor does it harden and become glossy. I have had excellent experience with this spray--no clogging, even spraying, beautiful and lasting finish. Everyone that I have recommended this finish to, and who has used it, has had this same opinion. It does exactly what it says on the label "penetrates, stains and seals". I am sure the other stains are wonderful, but this stain is comparable, reasonably priced and available at your local discount department store. I buy mine at Wal-Mart for around $5 for an 11.5 oz. can. If I happen to run out in the middle of staining a basket, I can run down the street and get some more. I don't have to purchase in large quantity. You can see exactly what I am talking about at the following web site: http://www.minwax.com/produse/stains/puwswf1.htm On the web site, there is a picture of it in a one-quart, non-spray can, but it is also available in a convenient spray version. I have used Weaver's Stain in the past and although it gives a nice finish, I have had some problems with the nozzle clogging. I have tried the recommended remedies for this problem and have had no success. I have had to dispose of more half full cans than I care to remember. I have not had any of these problems with the spray MinWax and I find it a much better value in the long run. Thank You. Lauren Wengler %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: WW - Staining - Weaver's Stain Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 7:28 PM From: Mark Koch To: davidc@iei.net Hi To Everyone!!! Cathy Cole I think we have all tried minwax. Everytime something new comes out, I have to try it. Sometimes I am pleased, sometimes not. But thats how we learn. Minwax has a permanent sealer that cannot be penetrated once it is dry. Therefore, we can't think of anything that you can treat your baskets with to help with the hardness/brittleness. We can suggest that you keep them out of the sun and away from heater vents. This will help prevent additional drying. If they are for decoration, they will do better than if they are functional baskets that will get more use from wear & tear. The more you use them the easier it is for them to break from being a little too hard. Keep in mind; you may never have a breakage problem with your basket. But if you do and a weaver in a row does break, it can always be mended. It will only add character to your basket. Susan from Upstate NY We all have our favorite stains. I am sure your baskets have a beautiful finish. You are mighty brave to stain in your "kitchen". We would be eating stain if I tried that at our house... hehehe Janice Densch Sorry to hear about your stool experience with the minwax. It's funny how certain things we do make a lasting impression on us. I also learn from trial and error, sometimes more often than not... :) Mark is working on a NEW stain tip sheet. Once he has it ready I will post a notice and you can view it on our website. Thanks for all the feedback. If you have a special tip you would like to share with everyone, please email us and we will include it on our website for everyone to share and use your name if you don't mind. Happy Weaving Dollie Koch The Weavery Home of Weaver's Stain %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: re: gotta stop lurking! Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 7:29 PM From: Eve Sumsky/Paul Sumsky To: Hi From Northern Minnesota! Claudia... I used a pattern from the Just Patterns publication, Vol. Su 96called Mr. Fox's birthday basket for flower baskets in my wedding. With a few less spokes I made a smaller version for the flower girl. The florist had a lot of fun filling them for the wedding. It's an old issue, might be hard to find. The basket was a hearth type basket with a braided rim. You could braid the rim with a color from the wedding. Gabriela... I read about your web-site in weaver's words and went "surfing." Great baskets! And I'm having a lot of fun using up my scrap #3 with your free pattern. What a fun, cute little basket! Susan(upstate NY)... in our guild we tried a pattern once called the "Whatever Basket". It gave general directions for a basket like..."cut 15 stakes at 12" from whatever..." so you use any size from the scrap bin. It was great fun and everyone's basket came out different. We're not sure where the pattern came from. It was in some newsletter stuff that was passed along in the guild. Anyway, since then it is often said of a pile of scraps that "there is another whatever basket." Just dump some scraps out and see what you can make! It really is fun. But no cheating...you can't take reed from any hanks! Our guild, Headwaters Basketmakers Guild, is just about ready to mail the brochures for our annual spring workshop. It is held north of Bemidji, Minnesota at the Concordia Language Camps. This year's dates are April 19th-21st. Teachers are from the Midwest area. If interested you can email me and I'll get your name on the mailing list. Nothing beats basket weaving in the Northwood's of Minnesota! And lastly...thank you to David! What a great service you provide us with! I know I'd miss it if it disappeared! Eve Sumsky In Minnesota, where we need snow so we can get the snowmobile out of the yard and into the garage! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: WW V. 51.42 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 08:48:40 EST From: LMBAUCH@aol.com To: weaverswords-owner@yahoogroups.com Susan (upstate NY), I'm Laurie of Sanborn (Western) New York, not the Laurna of Upstate New York. But I am looking for other weavers. So where in 'upstate' are you? I am excited because I just got my reply for the Fingerlakes' guild "Abundance of Baskets" - in Rochester, NY and I have a class with Cass Schorsch and Flo Hoppe - weavers that I've read about for years and have yet to meet. It's also the 1st time I've been to an event like this so I am really looking forward to it! Laurie in Sanborn, NY %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: "Weavers Words" V. 5 I. 42 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 18:04:47 -0800 From: "Darlene or Gordon Pearce" To: "WW" Clare...I can't take credit for the idea of starting with two weavers...I got the idea from Kathie Ballad's weaving books...glad you like it... Susan (upstate NY) asked what does everyone do with their scraps? Easy to use if you rubber band like lengths & sizes together...then check them first to see if any will work in your next new project...just run the tape measure down the bunch and pull out any that will work...sometimes I am surprised to find I can cut the stakes for a complete basket out of scraps... if you have 3 or 4 bins...mark one for 1/2"...one for 5/8"...etc... if you do wood bases...pieces as short as 6" or 7" can be used...for those you can take a large mouth jar (no lids)...and measure the scrape and put it in the jar marked 7" or 5/8"FF...and put all 5/8"FF up to say 12" in it...then when you want to weave a wood base...pull out the size you need... My biggest waste is rim FO. Haven't figured out a use for the 5/8" as it's to big for a rim on smaller baskets that would use the shorter pieces...does anyone have a use for those scraps... Susan...I also enjoyed your web site ...very well designed... Janice...your question..."Would someone explain weave and chase to me?...no e-mail address to respond to...if no one explains it in the next post...please e-mail me and I will... Hugs from Okinawa...Darlene %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Georgia Convention Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 09:16:31 -0800 From: "Mary Zeh Kuhr" To: Ka9zre@yahoo.com Hello Everyone, I regret to report that, once again, the Georgia convention was a fiasco. The group's FIRST mistake was naming Pattie Bagley as coordinator. This woman has no organizational skills, no personality, no heart, and not one iota of creativity. She was able to recruit a few lame volunteers but-- poor things -- they had a tough time pulling it off. Pat Christman, Carol Kronen and Dot Glover found a few door prizes, raffle prizes, and stuff for goody bags, but, of course, they took my name out of the bag when it came time to draw. So, I came home empty handed, except for the satisfaction of making some cool baskets; seeing the grinning faces of Carol, Michelle, Sandy, Kayte, Delores, Sarah in my class AGAIN, finally getting to meet Saint Dorothy, along with Barbara and Mary Anne; eating those delicious roll-ups; hugging the necks of women I met there three years ago and now consider good friends; and knowing that if something happened that would prevent my attending, Pattie would cover for me. Who could ask for more? It was announced that Pat Christman and Sandy Quackenbush will coordinate the next one so, for sure, I'll never go back again. Unless I beg them. Mary Kuhr in rainy (again!) NC with Georgia on My Mind %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Flower Girl Basket Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 11:16:30 -0500 Organization: The Country Seat Reply-To: "Angie Wagner-Country Seat" From: "Angie Wagner-Country Seat" To: CBasketbear@aol.com For Claudia in RI - You might want to look at the pattern "A Basket for Rebecca" by Joan Moore. It is pictured in our on-line catalog - https://secure.rnci.com/countryseat/primary.asp Or follow the link below, which will take you directly to the pattern: https://secure.rnci.com/countryseat/itemdetail.asp?searched=yes&tempprimary=Books%2C+Magazines+%26+Patterns&tempsecondary=Patterns%2C+Alphabetical+%2D+A%2DC&tempproduct=Basketry+Patterns+Aa+%2D+Am&tempitem=A+Basket+for+Rebecca+%2D+Moore&resultcount=2&itemnum=1 The colors can be changed to match the wedding party. It's a cute basket with curls in a rose bud pattern. Angie The Country Seat http://www.countryseat.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weave & Chase Or Chase Weave Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 11:06:18 -0500 Organization: The Country Seat Reply-To: "Angie Wagner-Country Seat" From: "Angie Wagner-Country Seat" To: "- Weavers Words David Collins" Hi Janice - Please visit our FAQ Page on our website - http://www.countryseat.com/faq.htm The first one listed should answer your question. Angie The Country Seat http://www.countryseat.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 2:44 PM From: Dave and Kay To: davidc@iei.net Hello, could anyone post a note on WW about how to get information on the convention in Silver Dollar City, Branson, MO. in May. Can't seem to find any information on it, thanks. Kay %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weavers Words Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 10:07 AM From: Babs kasper To: Here We Go Again! My DEAR Remi, the fact that you seem to delight in tearing down and discrediting IBA show that you have little self respect. (I don't have any respect for you either). Your inability to let go of this issue leads me to believe that you must be one of the disgruntled IBA board members who's membership was revoked. Why else would you be so determined to keep this issue alive? Why do you persist in injecting your negative comments into an other wise delightful forum. Do us all a favor and keep your negative comments to yourself. Babs Kasper in sunny, warm Indiana %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Nantucket Weekend Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 19:28:11 EST From: DMMONTE1@aol.com To: weaverswords-owner@yahoogroups.com Hi, I'd just like to let everyone know that I will be teaching a Nantucket Lightship Basket Weekend Workshop at Quiltessentials, Auburn, Maine on February 23rd and 24th. This is a fun workshop for the Nantucket weaver of any level. You can choose which Nantucket you would like to weave from a list of about 80 different molds of all shapes and sizes. We always have a great, fun-filled weekend and you WILL go home with a "completely finished" Nantucket Lightship Basket! If you'd like more info please call the shop directly at 207-784-4486. I will also be teaching at Del's in East Freetown, Ma in April and at The Fletcher Farm School of Arts & Crafts in June. I will post more info on these classes later. If you are interested in weekly classes I teach in my home studio 3 nights per week. David, thank you for all your work in keeping this forum alive. Donele Monte Somerset, MA %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% That's All For Now Folks. To Post A Message Use: davidc@iei.net or ka9zre@yahoo.com To Subscribe Use: weaverswords-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe Use: weaverswords-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com