"Weavers Words" Vol. 5 Iss. 13 Date Sent: July 28, 2001 Back Issues: http://www.angelfire.com/art/weaverswords/ David Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 Phone: (317) 899-5747 davidc@iei.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ATTENTION NEW SUBSCRIBERS: 1.) Back issues of Weaver's Words can be found at: http://www.angelfire.com/art/weaverswords/ 2.) If you are new to Weaver's Words, more than likely you will read messages about a basket swap in progress. Basket swaps are organized by other weavers approximately every 2-3 months. So if a swap is in progress when you subscribe, be patient and a new swap will begin before you know it. Every subscriber is eligible for each swap as long as you fulfill you obligation from the previous swap. 3.) You can order a copy of the "Basketry Travel Companion", your guide to basket shops, galleries, exhibits and much more across the United States and world wide, by sending me $15.00 via PayPal (a free service) at: http://www.paypal.com/ (Send Payment To ka9zre@yahoo.com) OR Via money order / check at: David Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From: "Darlene or Gordon Pearce" To: CC: "Nancy Brandt" Subject: Holes for ball feet screws!! Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:08:34 -0700 Hello Everyone, To Nancy in Glen Arm, MD--who wrote--I need help with screw- on ball feet for baskets. I prefer the ball feet with screws to the glue on type. BUT the screw makes the bottom weavers split. I tried making the hole for the screw first with an ice pick. But this wasn't any better when the screw went in. I am not happy when the corner spokes on the bottom are split! Hope you can help me. My suggestion is--after you have woven in the base--and before you twine--punch a hole in the reed with a very small paper punch--you can only punch a single stake at a time--so you would need to punch one hole and then mark through it on the other corner stack and punch another hole--be sure that the reed is wet--and the hole the right size for the screw--I put knobs on spiral spoked lids this way. I do not like the splitting reed either-- You can also attach leather strips for handles in small baskets--by punching holes through the rim row and cut off stake (before you cut it off or the reed will split)--a hole in the leather and attach with a brass plated paper fastener--the kind that goes through the hole with two prongs that are flattened--or use a rivet--rim as usual--I have done both of these methods with good results--again only on small baskets--nothing that well be carrying anything very heavy-- Hope this helps with your problem-- Hugs from Sunny/Hot Okinawa--Darlene %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Shop for northern Ill weavers Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 11:24 AM From: East Troy Basketry To: David Collins Sharon and other weavers from northern Illinois, East Troy Basketry in East Troy WI is the closest shop to you. Many Illinois / Chicago weavers come here regularly, including some from Barrington. We have classes several times a week including many nationally known instructors. Check our website for directions. Due to cancellations, there are openings in several of John McGuire's classes in August. Call for details. Eileen Mirsberger East Troy Basketry 2082 Church St. P.O. Box 643 East Troy, WI 53120 www.easttroybasketry.com Toll-Free: 1-888-424-9866 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: aloha! Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 1:03 PM From: The Keener Clan To: Aloha from sunny Hawaii! Well, I do think we may have struck paydirt on the neck pain, numbness in arms and legs, headache, etc.--I was diagnosed with TMJ! It is temporomandibular joints and can be caused by poor occlusion, misalignment of the teeth, grinding of teeth, whiplash, head injuries, arthritis--and on and on and the symptoms can be headaches, earaches, ringing in the ears, eye pain or redness, dizziness, lower back pain, neck stiffness, numbness in limbs...my first symptom was losing the ability to yawn followed by a major earache. So, if your neck pain persists..have your doctor or dentist check for this. And believe me, it is painful as all get out. I feel like a small load has been lifted from my shoulders--now at least we have a cause to most of the problem. I saw the neatest thing last week. Someone had "woven" a pineapple wall hanging out of fiber rush or paper twist. It looks as though it is braided very loosely with 10 pieces of paper twist and the ends are gathered, tied together and the ends are cut into leaf shapes. A bow is tied around the gather. Does anyone know if there is a pattern or instructions for this? I don*t know if I can figure out how to "braid" with 10 pieces...anyone know of any instructions for braiding with more than 3 pieces? Aloha, Lois %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Drying willow Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 8:08 AM From: Teri Baskett To: I have a large willow tree in my back yard that we have to trim at least twice a year just to mow under it. While I know this is not the traditional willow that is used to weave, it is thin and very supple. I'd like to try to dry it and weave a few things. Could anyone tell me how I might be able to dry it effectively? Also, could you suggest any patterns that might lend itself to this type of material? Thanks in advance! Basket61 terilb61@home.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: [weaverswords] "Weavers Words" V. 5 I. 11 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 08:40:21 EDT From: BODBASK@aol.com To: weaverswords-owner@yahoogroups.com Good morning all from wet wet wet Florida...we are all building little boats in our back yards and gathering our animals two by two...the ditch behind my house actually is flowing like a river would! First it's no rain, then it's too much rain... such is the life in "sunny" Florida. To say nothing of the humidity. Because I live in an unairconditioned house keeping reed and seagrass and other materials mildew free is an unending chore and cause for continual concern! Anyway, I received a darling basked from Mona Campbell in Havelock, N. C. which she calls her "Tootie Fruitie". She has taken a wood base and wood burned into the bottom some fruit, painted it and then coated it continually with varnish. She then wove the staves and used a navy blue Gretchen border. It is really darling and very much appreciated. I now a box to use and my basket is on it's way as I speak! Sliced my finger the other day while slicing watermelon and so weaving has been slow.... This is all for now... cheers from Florida where rubber rafts and umbrellas are going at a premium rate! Jill %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From: "D. Nye" To: Subject: ash camp-2001 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:19:51 -0400 As usual, I have gone and deleted all my ash camp mailing list by accident again. I tried to piece it together again, but if you are planning on coming and have not received instructions on how to find my house, please e-mail me at djnye@up.net so I can send them to you. Aren't you all glad I do not sit at the government's nuclear missile control panel? Daniel %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:49:09 -0500 To: weaverswords-owner@yahoogroups.com From: Roberta Comstock Subject: Re: [weaverswords] "Weavers Words" V. 5 I. 12 ka9zre@yahoo.com "Weavers Words" Vol. 5 Iss. 12 Nancy in Glen Arm, MD - To prevent splits in your spokes when making holes for screw-on feet, try stabilizing the reed first with a piece of tape or a small patch of glue where the hole will go. Then make the hole with a drill. I would also use a washer between the screw head and the reed to prevent the screw from pulling through. Susan, Upstate NY - Try a discount store or a Radio Shack for small cable ties. If you have a Harbor Freight tool store in your area, they sometimes have good assortments of them on sale. Lynne - Where will you be traveling? Maybe you need a copy of David's "Basketry Travel Companion" book of basketry sites. Bert Lauderdale Independence, MO %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:46:12 -0500 To: weaverswords-owner@yahoogroups.com, ka9zre@yahoo.com From: Roberta Comstock Subject: Re: [weaverswords] "Weavers Words" V. 5 I. 11 "Weavers Words" Vol. 5 Iss. 11 Nancy in Northeast Ohio - Your best bet for making a shave horse to fit you and your needs is to find a place that has some and try several different ones to see what feels right to you. Try contacting your local historical society or visit some living history sites and see if you can find a woodworker who uses a shavehorse. Perhaps they can explain the function and how to adjust the dimensions to suit you personally. There is a lot of variation in sizes, although the basic configuration is usually similar. When I was at Arrowmont in Gatlinburg, TN, a couple of years ago, there were several good looking shavehorses in the woodworking department, but they really didn't function properly for anyone in the class I was taking. I think they must have been made by someone who didn't understand how the parts are supposed to interact. Bert C. Lauderdale Independence, MO %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Reply-to: "Angie Wagner-Country Seat" From: "Angie Wagner-Country Seat" To: "- Weavers Words David Collins" Subject: drilling, classes Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:22:56 -0400 Organization: The Country Seat Hi all, Nancy in MD - try drilling the hole, this is how Nantucket rims are done so the nail doesn't split the rim. You also might try wetting the reed right where you are inserting the screw that should help. Lynne - You don't say where you will be traveling to next summer or where you are starting from, but if you are in the PA area, we are in the process of scheduling classes for next year. You can find our classes at http://www.countryseat.com/classes.htm. So far, Maggie Silva will be teaching Nantucket's in the end of April, Bonnie Gale will be teaching willow the end of June and Jill Choate will be teaching antler baskets some time over the summer. As class information is confirmed, I will post it on our Classes page. Angie in PA The Country Seat http://www.countryseat.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: wild bird feathers are covered by FEDERAL law Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 7:52 PM From: Pamela Zimmerman To: David Collins Someone wrote in a previous WW, "Wild feathers are definitely out unless your state is more liberal than most." Sorry. Wild birds, their feathers, nests, eggs, and all parts are covered by FEDERAL law, the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, and it is all the same, everywhere in the US. Don't do it. There are a few birds, which are not covered, but you had better be very sure of it. The other suggestions, about feather dusters, etc, are much safer. Pamela Zimmerman %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: This and That Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 9:19 PM From: Tony Stubblefield To: David Collins/Weavers Words Lois - about shop dilemma - The shop has the right to buy products from whomever they choose. There wasn't any kind of implied exclusive contract, I assume, and no business in their right mind would make something like that anyway. A business needs a steady supply of products to stay in business and must purchase those from the most reliable and cost effect supplier. I don't think there is any ethical dilemma here. The "new weavers" was asked if they would like to sell some baskets, they declined to respond in what the shop felt was a reasonable amount of time and so they exercised their right to contact the another supplier, the "original weaver". It is as simple as that. But, to put this into other terms, as sometimes we are all too close to the subject of baskets, here's a story: You go to the local farmers market and ask the corner fruit vendor about buying some pineapples, but he don't have any. For a month you go to the market and the corner vendor isn't there so you start buying pineapples from the next guy down the row. A few weeks go by and the corner vendor shows back up and now has pineapples to sell. You have been buying pineapples from the guy down the row and are very happy with the quality and price so you pass the corner vendor up and buy from your guy. The corner vendor now chases you though the market saying you must buy from him. Who is acting reasonable in this situation? I think it is pretty obvious. If the "new weaver" had been selling to the shop owner for months and went on vacation for a month only to come back to find the shop now buying from someone else I might see that they would be upset. Good business practices are all about trust and relationships, there wasn't any relationship between the "new weaver" and the new shop owner and any trust that might have been fostered was broken when the "new weaver" didn't contact the shop in a timely manner. Sorry this was such a long and convoluted answer, but I hope it helps and I hope whichever side of the fence you are on, feelings will be smoothed. Good luck. Dianne - about the varnish Ingrid mentioned using - that type of "marine" varnish is also sometimes called a "spar" varnish. It is often used on backpacks as well. Sometimes it is tinted so you may not need to prestain you creel. I would test the color first on a scrap piece of reed to see if any other stain is needed. Nancy - about screw on basket feet - I have never used these, but you may want to drill pilot holes first, a Dremel tool should work great for that or you can use a regular hand drill if it isn't too clumsy to hold. Another way I have put holes in the bottom of a basket to attach runners or skids is to use a wood burner and burn holes though the splint. This kind of seems scary, but works very well and you don't splinter the wood like you can with drilling. I am so far behind in my email correspondence. If any of you have emailed me personally and I haven't replied to you, I promise I am slowly getting to each and everyone of you. I actually have been quite busy weaving this summer. As I think I have mentioned I am doing an art/craft show this fall and want to have between 24 and 36 baskets made (I normally only have about 6 basket to sell a year). I am doing pretty well and think I should have a nice selection of sizes and prices. I am mainly making Nantucket's, but should have a couple of brown ash Shaker baskets and a few larger reed baskets. I will let you all know how it goes. Well I had better get to these emails and baskets. Take care and happy weaving, Tony Stubblefield St. Louis, MO http://www.JASkets.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Natural Rush Seatweaving Class Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:24 AM From: To: Spend a relaxing weekend on August 4, 5 & 6th in northern Minnesota, learning the ancient craft of chair seat weaving with Minnesota Folk Art Grant master, Cathryn Peters. There are still some openings in my paper fibre rush footstool class as well as my two day, natural cattail leaf rush chair class at North House Folk School in Grand Marais, Minnesota. This is the first time classes like this have ever been offered in the state and the rush is not pre-twisted! Lovely nonprofit facility right on the north shores of Lake Superior. For registration and further information, visit their website at http://www.northhouse.org/ The Wicker Woman/Cathryn Peters Visit: http://www.wickerwoman.com/ FREE monthly ezine: http://wickerwoman.com/newsletter.htmlhttp://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=16796&Auth=false %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: July-August Newsletter Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 11:50 PM From: Patricia Yunkes To: David Collins The Patricia Baskets Newsletter if finally written. Thank you for your patience in waiting. I have tried to make it extra special as there won't be another one for 2 months. Of special interest to you is an article "The Hidden Danger of Gathering Wild Materials" and "Antler Laws. There is also an article on weaving in Montana and teaching children at conventions, There is a new free pattern...you have to look on my pattern page to find it. And the kits of the month are a Wildflower Pouch and trivets and trivet jewelry. (Made too many for conventions). If you have not seen my pattern page for a while, take a new look. There are several new patterns, and all patterns but one have colored pictures. The children's patterns have their own page now, with most of them in color.(two are still in my camera). And Natural Materials patterns have been separated from Reed patterns. Separating these pages makes everything easier to download. So many people were unhappy with the amount of time it took to download that I am trying something different. It is posted on my web site this time, and all you have to do is click on the my web address: www.patriciabaskets.com Then click on Newsletter or Patterns.at the bottom of the first page. And last, but not least, I still need a couple more Nantucket students for my September class at Tyler State Park, a few miles north of Philadelphia. Look on the "classes" web page for details. Happy weaving everyone, Patricia Yunkes PATRICIA BASKETS Visit my web page: http://users.penn.com/~patricia %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Chicago bound Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:17:24 -0400 Reply-to: "Leigh Ingram" From: "Leigh Ingram" To: Hello Weavers! I'll be in Chicago in August. Any great supply shops or galleries that aren't too difficult to find?? I'd appreciate any info. Please email me privately. Thanks so much! Leigh Ingram %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: RE: [weaverswords] "Weavers Words" V. 5 I. 12 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 07:50:12 -0500 From: "Adamczak" To: "'weaverswords-owner@yahoogroups.com'" In response to Nancy Brandt's question about splitting the reed when attaching ball feet: I have use the ball feet and have never had any reed split. My husband drills a small hole with and electric drill first. Maybe that is the trick. Shirley in hot and humid Duluth, MN. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Willow information? Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:12 PM From: Jan McNutt To: David G. Collins To anyone that can help, I am interested in hearing from someone that knows something about willow. I have been growing willow in my garden two years now, and need to know more about it, like: when to harvest it?, do you let it dry before you use it?, etc. I am wanting to make a willow arbor. I have about 5 different varieties and just need to know more. If you could direct me to the right person, book, or e-mail address, I would love it. You can put information in Weavers Words or e-mail me private, jan@hairhutch.com Thanks for any help you can give me. Jan %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weaver's Words. Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 12:51 PM From: Joy Moody To: davic@iei.net Hi all! It is a humid 90 degrees here in central Maine. Lois: Seems to me all's fair in natural competition. The other weaver seems to have horned in on your established business to begin with, & in this last round she simply missed the boat by waiting too long to get back to the shop new owner. Unless she has some contract that gives her exclusivity, I don't see why she should be angry, except maybe at herself! Susan: If you have a Home Depot or Home Quarters they'll have cable ties in a large box size. Elaine: Thanks for the well wishes & heads up. I'm still a Licensed Clinical Counselor & have worked as a Counselor & Clinical Supervisor with kids in therapeutic foster home placement. Right on re: special needs etc. It's probable our new daughter will be here before school starts. What a timeframe! Joy Moody Sign of the Crow http://www.signofthecrow.com/basketgalleryintro.html %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: recipe Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 8:53 AM From: B Holt To: David Collins Hi, Sending this to many who were at the convention and some we wish had been there. The convention was a success from all comments I have received. Here is the recipe I promised some of you; it was the cake in the TN Basketry Convention hospitality room: Mandarin Orange Cake By Debbie Harrison of Abilene TX Recipe in Winning Seasons compiled by The American Football Coaches Wives Association 1 box yellow butter cake mix 1 (11 ounce) can mandarin oranges, juice and all 3/4 cup oil 4 eggs Mix all ingredients; bake in sheet cake 9x13 pan at 325 for 25 min or until tests done using cake tester or toothpick. Frosting: 1 (6 ounce) large box of instant vanilla pudding (I mixed up dry...recipe didn't say to make the pudding and then use. If you mix up pudding I would use half the milk, and maybe drain the pineapple.) 1 (9 ounce) container Cool Whip 1 (12 ounce) can crushed pineapple, juice also Blend and frost cake. See... I told you it was easy...the only kind I bake. Enjoy, Barbara %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Alaskan Intensive Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 4:00 PM From: J. Choate Basketry List To: List Member Nothing like hot weather to make you dream of snow and cold. Missouri living is peaceful, serene, rejuvenating and hot at the current time. As we get closer to fall I get to thinking about howling snow storms, 40 below and huskies in harness. Wa-hoo! I must be an Alaskan at heart. If you've decided that an Alaskan adventure is something your yearning for here is something new for you to ponder. In January/February 2002 we are offering an Alaskan Intensive for those who are interested in a one on one learning environment to encompass not only basketry making but dog mushing as well. This will be a week long apprenticeship finalizing in a remote bush trip to Pirate Lake with housing in a rustic cabin (by dog team of course). Interest has been high for this event and availability is limited. If this sounds like it's right up your alley give me a hoot and we'll talk over the logistics. There is still room in the Alaska Bush Basketry Retreat - Iditarod if your up for the Last Great Race in March as well as the ABBR - Fish On! in August for those that are akin to salmon. Please remember that this listbot list will be defunct after August 20th. To stay abreast of all the fascinating ways to experience antler basketry and Alaska please join up at our new list at: http://communities.msn.com/JChoateBasketryList As a last note we are currently scheduling classes for next years summer tour of the Lower-48. If your group or organization is interested in hosting a class let me know and we'll work you in somewhere. Until we meet in Alaska! Jill Choate Talkeetna, AK %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: wanting help Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 12:56 AM From: Mary Abernethy To: I am wanting to take my hobby of weaving chairs from a hobby to a job. Would anyone know what I would need to do, i.e., paperwork, supplies, an accountant? I have been keeping track of my paperwork as to whose chair and what it brought, but what else should I be keeping track of. Any sales I make are out of a shop that I have a booth in and have yet to deal with sales tax since I perform a service. Can anyone help me? Nervous in Bartlesville, OK Mary Abernethy, Chair Weaver %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: gourd basket pattern Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 1:27 PM From: Chris & Melissa To: Dear Weavers, I inherited several gourds (that I haven't seen yet) from my grandmother. I'd like to try weaving on them--something new for me. I've searched the Internet for a pattern or patterns that also include directions for preparing the gourd. Can anyone help me? Thank you! Melissa Kile Riner, VA %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Cable ties Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 7:03 PM From: Marsha Ackerman To: WebClothes.com ; The Home Depot carries at least three lengths of cable ties in packages of 1000. When I bought mine I paid $7something for a bag of the 4" and about $16 for the 7 or 8". Marsha in the U.P. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weaver's Words - Vol 5, Issue 12 Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 7:54 PM From: Nancy Carlson To: Nancy in MD - I have found that the small long bags which are used for newspapers are ideal for use as disposable staining gloves. There is no ink on it that can come off and present a problem. The best thing for making holes for screws is to get the reed wet by misting it and then drilling the hole. This way it is damp, which prevents splitting. Susan-Upstate NY. I found that the best source for small cable ties is Home Depot in the electrical dept. Occasionally, I will find them in Dollar Stores and/or Big Lots. However, these are normally colored and assorted in sizes, which I have no use for. Nancy where we are experiencing a COLD spell after a very HOT weekend in MI %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: WW Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 8:08 PM From: Lynda Crowe To: Hi all and David, We have finally gotten a break from the 95-degree weather and the 3 H's that were throwing us into tremendous heat index temperatures. Well, now that you are all updated on the Indianapolis weather, I thought I'd let you know the new website is updated and running, and all the links seem to be working-so far-now I've just jinxed it. The New free pattern, newsletter, sales item page have been updated, and now we have a bulletin board/guest book again. Please sign to let us know you've been there and what you think. You should even be able to print off the free pattern-finally. The birdhouses are available in various colors and we'll even take special orders for your favorite colors, etc. Our local lady has been kept pretty busy by all the basket weavers who love those things. So far, we can still have them out within about 24 hours. As we get closer to craft show time, that will be more difficult, so order early to be sure you can get yours in time. Thought I'd let you know we'll be closed August 4th, 5th, and 6th. We have tickets for the Brickyard 400. This is my 9 year old and my husbands second year. This is my first live race. I'm so excited. Almost as much as going to the convention. We are taking my folks-their first race too. Dad just retired and he is looking forward to this with excitement, I've never seen in him before. I think just being retired makes him excited!! He is so different. We are doing the tailgating thing and all. We want the full effect! Well, as always, Thanks so much David for you time and effort as always and Weave on...Lynda 'The Crowe's Nest Basketry' http://www.angelfire.com/home/thecrowesnest thecrowesnestbasketry@yahoo.com 317-213-3342/317-859-0920 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: A Message from "Ruthanne Morningstar". Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 8:23 AM From: To: Hi David and World Wide Basketmakers, I received this from Ruthanne today, it seems that due to the new "Weavers Words" somehow she doesn't belong anymore. I hope you are all surviving the heat, as for me barely. I send love to all. Marty Could you put this into WW's for me? Basket Bash 2002 will be held at Fowler Center in Mayville, Michigan on April 19, 20 and 21, 2002. This is a three-day event with all meals, lodging and teaching fees included in one price. The only extra costs are the material fees, which vary with each class. The fun is free! There will be door prizes, goodie bags, basket exchange, Teacher's Marketplace, evening programs and Make-It/Take-Its. If interested, please contact Ruthanne Morningstar, e-mail rmstar@mich.com - Brochures will be sent out in January. Also, Basket Bash 2002 Teacher Proposals are being accepted by Cheryl Czerwinski. For more information you can contact her at Cheryl Czerwinski, 1604 Wood Trail, Oxford, MI 48371-6067 - phone (248) 693-4002 or e-mail kenczerwin@aol.com Ruthanne M.S. Morningstar 'The Electronic Woman' Marty Holihan---Flint, Michigan---martyhln@juno.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: From: Cita Schade To: Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 4:58 PM I am new to WW and have until now been reading word to word with interest. Now I have a remark and some questions. For you who read it: I am a Dane living in Denmark and my English has become quite rusty, especially my spelling and the finer nuances, so please read this with a bit of creativity. Furthermore: basket-English is a totally new language to me oh, there is so delightfully much to learn! I have been weaving for 18 months as much as possible with a baby 15 months old, rebuilding house and 30 hours work/week. I weave with willow only and take great interest in learning the craft. I weave willow with the bark on and am especially fond of the green sorts. I prefer weaving baskets, would love to be able to weave animal-sculptures, but right now I can only find time now and then for I do not know the right words, but will describe: I stick soaked or dried willow (1 inch apart) next to the rim of a big flowerpot, tie the top ends together and weave an open spiral upwards, so that the flowers have something to cling to as they grow. When lucky I can find time to weave small houses on a wooden base for feeding wild birds. Both sell extremely well, by the way. This spring I planted 18 sorts / 2885 willow plants for weaving and 2 sorts / 700 for fences and fuel. Next spring I plan to plant about 5000 more for weaving. I needed people to willow/basket-talk with, so I my son made a website (www.salix.subnet.dk) with a Forum, somewhat like WW, but much smaller. Now I get at least 3 willow/basket-mails a day so I got what I was looking for! Furthermore I have arranged weaving-get-togethers and am trying to form a guild. Willow baskets and weaving with willows is very popular in Denmark: you hardly find a house without a basket or a street without a fence made from living or dried willow. With a population of a little over 5 mio. people Denmark has 2000 weavers organized in Pileforeningen (the Willow-organization) + a lot of unorganized. If you want to see something spectacular, try www.pileforeningen.dk, choose Elefanten and see pictures of a live-size elephant woven from willow. To Lois from Honolulu: I read your problem with interest and pondered a bit over the ethics: I cannot see, that the original weaver has any ethic obligation to step aside for the newbie. The o.w. was asked by the shop owner to weave the wine baskets and have furthermore inquired if the newbie was weaving as well and was told not. The shop owner might have a an ethic or legal problem, if she has not contacted the newbie in the 6 weeks span to hear if the newbie was still interested in delivering, before she approached the o.w., but as you describe the type of shop, I think not. Then there is a question of the newbies behavior: first I find it somewhat discourteously to offer a shop the same basket as another weaver is making (depending of the sort of shop and business agreement, of course). Next: the newbie should have contacted the new shop owner sooner 6 weeks is enough to loose a business. If anyone is to take the blame, at least half of it is hers. Last: to call the o.w. to complain, scold or whatever she did, is NOT a thing to do, as her problem is not with the o.w., but with the shop owner. My advice is that the o.w. should make clear to herself - as the first thing to do - that she has had an unpleasant incident and that the feelings following that might need a some working with. Next she should consider if she wants to weave the wine baskets after this incident and if so: do it happily!!! ??? growing willow ??? Literature on this subject is sparse in Denmark! What there is lacks details and explanations and is often contradictionary. So could anyone recommend a real good throughout book/website on the subject? One of the contradictions is about space between plants: everything from 4 to 10 inches between plants and 1to 2 feet between rows are recommended. I have chosen to plant with 8 to10 inches between plants and 1 feet between rows. My 15 willow beds are cowered with black plastic to keep of weeds and to hold on to moisture. The climate is like in England. If you have good or bad experiences with distances between willow plants I would be grateful if you would share them with me. On WW or privately (my mail dress is also on www.salix.subnet.dk. ??? German weavers on the internet ??? I have only been able to find the basket museum in Michelau when seeking for German basket weavers on the Internet. Anybody know any good sites??? My thanks! Cita in Denmark where the summer is more than hot right now %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: looking for info Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 9:53 PM From: Mary Abernethy To: I am looking for the address (snail or other) to enter into the Neosho, MO Red Barn Craft Fair this fall. They sent me a notice last year and I thought it was too far. I got a notice this year, and did not think anything about it. Then a friend said that it isn't as far and there might be a good chance of improvement there. And I threw away the notice. RATS!!!! If anyone can help, please forward directly, as I hope to get in before they fill up. I am also looking for any craft fairs in the SE Kansas area as well. Out of Bartlesville OK, where we just got an inch of rain after 100' after over a week. Mary E Abernethy, Seat Weaver %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% That's All For Now Folks. To Post A Message Use: davidc@iei.net or ka9zre@yahoo.com To Subscribe Use: weaverswords-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe Use: weaverswords-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com