"Weavers Words" Vol. 4 Iss. 90 Date Sent: April 09, 2001 Web Page: http://members.xoom.com/dgcollins/ Subscribers: 1584 David Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 Phone: (317) 899-5747 davidc@iei.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ORDER YOUR COPY OF THE "BASKETRY TRAVEL COMPANION" TODAY: http://members.nbci.com/dgcollins/ordercompanion.html %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% THE BASKET BOOKSTORE: Stop by "Weavers Words Basketry Bookstore" for a great selection of basketry literature & save up to 40%. Over 40 titles to choose from. The address is: http://members.xoom.com/dgcollins/book.html %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ATTENTION NEW SUBSCRIBERS: 1.) You can search Weaver's Words web page and back issues by going to Weaver's Words web page (http://members.xoom.com/dgcollins/) and entering your search criteria into the search box. 2.) If you have recently subscribed, more than likely you will read messages about a basket swap in progress. 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If you are one of these subscribers, or know one of someone who has not been receiving Weaver's Words, you can get all of the issues on the Weaver's Words web page. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ATTENTION ONLINE AUCTION USERS: Make Auction Payments Thru PayPal Plus Get $5 - FAST, FREE & SECURE: https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=ka9zre%40yahoo.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% PICTURE('S) ADDED TO WEB PAGE SINCE THE LAST ISSUE: David Collins'-----"Casket Basket" Recently Auctioned Off On Ebay. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Hi Everyone, Apparently someone sent me a message that wasn't intended for Weaver's Words. Let me reiterate some of my "policies". 1. I don't weave baskets or collect baskets, I just write this newsletter for my mom and her friends. 2. I rarely ever read the postings sent to me for inclusion into Weaver's Words. I scan the message and if it is regarding baskets I put it into Weaver's Words. I don't edit any messages sent to me. 3. If you send me a message please be absolutely sure it is intended for me. If you hit respond to Weaver's Words the message will route to me. If you want to send Weaver's Words to someone and include anything you want a particular person to only see, you need to forward the message to them, don't hit "Reply". 4. Remember you are responsible for your words, I only compile the newsletter. I hope this clears things up. David %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 89 Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:26:53 -0400 From: "Donna Longenecker" To: "David Collins" References: 1 Hi Janie - When you use a drilled base, you put your spokes in and weave a "footer" on the bottom first, this holds your spokes in place and keeps them from pulling out while you are weaving your basket. at it. Donna bordlong@fast.net www.countryseat.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Joanne's reply to that lady Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:11:40 -0400 From: Chris & Melissa Kile To: David Collins Right on, Joanne! I was astonished at the attitude behind that "lady's" letter. It was obvious she meant (I hope) to send it to an individual, not to WW. It was my first convention, too, and I went by myself, and had a stupendous time! I had emailed with Lois some beforehand, and had wanted to meet you both. My husband couldn't believe two ladies were flying in from Hawaii for a basket convention! What does he know?? (ha) I was totally impressed with the convention and the amount of organization it must have taken. I have been to numerous education/teacher conventions and there aren't as many workshops in a day as there were at the NCBA. I was amazed at ALL the exhibits in the exhibit room. Although I only bought 3 patterns (can you imagine), I was impressed with the designs and samples in the pattern room. I got to the hotel Thursday evening and roamed through the open weave and the vendors' area, then had to go to my room. It was so overwhelming!! On Friday, I took a couple of breaks and just walked up and down the aisles in the "big" room to see what everyone else was working on. I was very envious of the other classes, but I was so glad I got the classes I did. I got to work with waxed linen, black ash, and willow--the first time for all three--exactly what I wanted. Next year--a Nantucket. I'm saving my money! If this other gal is so jaded by 16 years of conventions, why is she wasting her money and someone else's space to go? I'm with Joanne & Lois (and I imagine mostly everyone else there)--I had a blast and lots of fun and met new people. Isn't that what having a life is all about?? Melissa in Riner, VA where SPRING is finally here!! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Don't Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:50:46 EDT From: ZOOBAR@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Confuse ME, Blythe Baskets By Barbara -The Ten Thumbs Weaver with the umm- "Lady"??? named Barbara France who went to the NC convention - Please DO NOT CONFUSE ME WITH HER.!!!. A very sad case, perhaps a very sad, lonely and very bored person- but no excuse for what she wrote. Many of you real "Ladies" from WW have given her the out by saying she must have sent it here by mistake. Me think not!! Should I ever be lucky and able to attend a convention, just guess who I'll make sure not to room with, weave with, eat with or even speak with - least I also end up in one of her tirades. Blythe (as in the State of GA) Barbara- The Ten Thumbs Weaver %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: NCBA conference Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:14:36 -0400 From: CLARICE E WEATHERS To: davidc@iei.net Just to let you know that I went to the NCBA convention, and had a grand time. I met the girls from Hawaii, and found them delightful, and full of the enthusiasm, and spirit that makes you glad you came. I remember my first conference with NCBA and it brought back fond memories. It was good to see old acquaintances and friends and also make several new ones. My roommate was a new member and it was her first conference. She was super, and I am still in a tailspin from all the fun we had. My teachers were great. I had Jenalee Frazier "Butterfly at the Crossroads", Ann Harrow "Birch Bark Basket", and Luke Block "White Oak Laundry Basket. I finished all my baskets, and look at them with pride. If any of you have the chance to have any of these teachers you will not be disappointed. I'll be back next year, because the members and volunteers that put the conference together, just keep getting better every year. A big thanks to all the workers that make NCBA so successful... You are the greatest!!! Clarice Weathers, Melbourne Florida %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 89 Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 23:35:43 -0500 From: Suzann Roberts To: David Collins To Jane, who asked about a basket for a flower girl in a wedding. I am making one right now which I think it pretty perfect for the occasion. Debbie Richards has a pattern out that is offered in three different sizes in one pattern. The name is "Braid-Weave Flower Basket." Debbie's address is 535 Indianwood Road, lake Orion, MI 48362-1518 (248) 693-6805, however, the pattern is most likely stocked in most all basket supply stores. Good luck! Suzann %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: This and That Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 03:21:33 -0500 From: Tony Stubblefield To: David Collins/Weavers Words Janie - about drilled vs. slotted bases - Drilled bases are to wicker baskets as slotted bases are to plaited (market style) baskets. The spokes are not simply stuck into the holes, but actually pass through to the underside where they are, I don't know how to describe it, "twined" together. The spokes are bound together in the same way you would finish off a wicker basket rim. In this way they can't come free of the base. Drilled bases, to me at least, give the look of an older (but not in a good way) style of basketry and something you would see used for beginners or children. This is not to say you couldn't make a beautiful basket using a drilled base, but they just remind me of something you would do at church camp. If anyone uses drilled bases, please don't take offense. Eileen - about dye tips - thanks so much for the great info. While I don't seem to have too much trouble with bleeding of colors. Your simple straightforward instructions make me want to give Retayne and Synthrapol a try. I have be playing with dying Hamburg cane to use on some Nantucket style baskets woven with a twill. I am a little concerned with color coming off onto the super white weavers and I think your recipe may be the trick I need. Lois - about knotless netting - you might check out the About.com basketry web site http://basketry.about.com/hobbies/basketry/mbody.htm As I remember there was an article about knotless netting and having never done it myself I thought the instructions seemed pretty straight forward. Well the workshops I am hosting in St. Louis for Martha Wetherbee in June are rapidly filling up. It is exciting that so many people are returning for this second year. If any of you are interested you can visit my web site at http://www.JASkets.com to see pictures of the baskets we will be making and you can email me if you would like to receive a registration brochure. This brings me to a funny story that kind of goes along with the post from last WW issue. The other day I received 2 envelopes in the mail which I could tell were both concerning the workshops. The first one I opened was from a woman who had taken both classes last year. With her registration and deposit check she included a nice note thanking me for hosting the classes, saying how excited she was to take the classes again and how much she liked the baskets that Martha was teaching. The next envelope (without a return address, but was mailed from St. Louis I noted) contained the workshop brochure with the class prices highlighted and a message scrawled across the page in red ink "Your costs are OUTRAGEOUS!" and that was it. I realize that these classes are quite a bit more expensive than your average reed class, but they aren't out of line with any comparable convention class. And we are working with superior materials making extraordinary baskets with a nationally renown basket authority. I just think it is so funny that someone would take the time to mail the brochure back to me to tell me the classes were too expensive. Like I insulted them by letting them know about the workshop being hosted in their own backyard. I don't receive any cut of the class fee and in fact pay for all the printing and mailing out of my own pocket. My motivation in this, besides getting Martha back to St. Louis, is that if I can fill the classes I get to take my class for free. With all the work I do in preparation and during the classes, like providing snacks and drinks I barely come out even. When I mail out my 200 or so flyers I know that most of the recipients aren't going to be able to take the class or may not even be interested, but I want everyone to at least have the opportunity to know about the classes. I only wish I knew for sure who sent the brochure back to me so I can save the wasted brochure, stamp, envelope and my time in addressing next year. I could simply not send out a mass mailing to local weavers at all and just do people who specifically request the info, but that seems rather exclusionary. I really found the whole thing extremely funny actually and if it wasn't so insulting to Martha I would scan it, along with the nice note, and post it on my web site. Oh well, the moon must have been in a bad phase this week or something. Surely that is what was making people so cranky. Thanks for letting me share this with you. And I hope the NCBA conventioneers are able to see how much bigger they are then some others and aren't letting themselves get beat down. Hey, if you had a good time that is all that matters. Keep those memories not the nasty ones. Take care and happy weaving, Tony Stubblefield St. Louis, MO http://www.JASkets.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 89 Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:45:36 EDT From: LMBAUCH@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Hi, All Eilleen Thanks for 'East Troy Dyeing Method" What is Synthrapol? What does it do? Haven't heard of it before. On other fronts, there's a new guild a brewing in the Lehigh Valley (Eastern PA). It's cooking up in my basket classes and I think it will be a fine one. If you're interested, send me an e-mail note and I'll pass it on to the folk organizing it (Identify the topic in the subject line - I get junk mail on AOL and often delete stuff from people I don't know. I love it already in that they have a heart for encouraging new weavers! It looks as if they'll do some organizing this spring/summer and really take off in the fall. The nice part of where we are is that we are on the edges of 2 guilds that are kind of far for the 'jest getting together to weave and talk type' meetings. But there are connections to both via members so I think it will enrich all three. Hope to hear from some of you in the area. Laurie Bauch in Easton, PA %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: NC Weave Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 07:23:29 -0400 From: "Juanita Kenner" To: "David Collins" Hi WW members, I was glad to see the post from the Cape Fear Basket Weavers in NC. This group of ladies put on a one-day weave-in that is to die for. This is my third time attending and I can't wait to see all of my NC buddies. The registration includes what they call a continental breakfast, lunch and snacks. The last breakfast I had there was worth the registration alone. The members are some of the nicest weavers I have met and the teacher list has something for everyone. I got my check out the same day I got it. Nancy Brandt and I will be driving down from Baltimore to attend. If you want to make new friends and great baskets think about attending on June 16th. I haven't posted for a long time but didn't want anyone to miss out on a good time. Hope you are all enjoying spring. Juanita Kenner from showery Baltimore MD. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Bases Drilled With Holes Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 07:56:25 EDT From: Wickrwoman@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net, tailes@juno.com Janie, I'm always amazed when someone mentions that they have never used the drilled bases and have only used the slotted, because most those of us that have been in the biz a while started out using those drilled thingies. The drilled plywood bases and pine bases have been around for eons and are still used at Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, 4-H and other clubs to introduce children to basic beginning weaving. If you are lucky enough to read some of the really old basket books from the 1920s and 1930s, you will see that the drilled bases were used for a myriad of basket designs. There were serving trays of all shapes and sizes, wastebaskets, drinking glass holders, toothbrush holders, flower pot holders, basically you name it, they had it. And as far as the spokes slipping out, they won't because before you start weaving the upper part of the basket, you turn the base over and with about 3-5" of the reed, you weave a locking foot border (several different weaving designs can be used here). Then after the reed ends are secured with the locking foot border, you turn the base right side up again and proceed to weave the basket. Sorry, but the names of the books I have downstairs in my shop library all escape me right now. Try going to your local library and look for some of the older basketry books or request a library loan for them. Some of the basket suppliers will have simple little patterns for you to follow too, just ask if they have any. The drilled bases make for an easy introduction to basketweaving by children as well as adults. You get the experience of working with round reed, but not the difficulty of weaving a round reed base right off the bat. I have gone into the schools and taught simple pencil baskets like this to kids as young as kindergarten age. Once you learn the process, you can use your imagination and create lots of different things. For example, all my doll and baby cradles and bassinets use the plywood bases. Here are my PhotoPoint albums for you to take a look at for inspiration. http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=16796&a=70546 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=16796&a=1517826 Good luck gals on your project! So glad to see an interest and willingness to learn different weaving techniques. The Wicker Woman/Cathryn Peters Visit: http://www.wickerwoman.com/ FREE monthly ezine: http://wickerwoman.listbot.com/ http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=16796&Auth=false %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Convention talk Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:22:52 +0900 From: "David & Dianne Walbeck" To: I just cannot stand it any more. I am beginning to think all you convention goers are trying to kill me. I am truly glad that so many of you enjoyed your trip. One day I will be there with you; maybe dancing through the halls. One question, how did you choose your classes? I remember looking at a poster for the NC convention from years ago and all the baskets and other projects looked wonderful. How can one choose? It just does not seem possible. Over here in Okinawa Japan it just seems like it will be forever till I can make it to a convention. Does anyone know of something happening in Seattle any time soon? I could make it there no problem. Wishing I could have been able to go this year. Dianne Walbeck Okinawa Japan %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Knotless Netting Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 08:29:00 EDT From: Wickrwoman@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net, keenerfam@worldnet.att.net Lois, I have never done knotless netting, but it is one of the requirements for the Certificate of Excellence (COE) in Basketweaving, offered by the Handweavers Guild of America (HGA). BTW, I ended up dropping out of the program, too many things going on in my life right now to devote the necessary time to this masters "college level" (my emphasis) degree in basketweaving. I searched quite a while until I ran across a pattern on Susi Nuss's BasketryAbout.com website. Here's the URL, just do a search on knotless netting and it should come right up. http://www.basketry.about.com The Wicker Woman/Cathryn Peters Visit: http://www.wickerwoman.com/ FREE monthly ezine: http://wickerwoman.listbot.com/ http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=16796&Auth=false %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 07:33:00 -0500 From: Jim Beltz To: davidc@iei.net I was right-there was a nasty hate letter in that issue of WWs. I thought I was seeing things. You need to get a better outlook on life and attend Miss Manners classes lady. Maybe your roommates didn't enjoy you either. I was at NCBA this year and had my usual wonderful time. I did not get as many classes this year as usual but that is okay. I still had no extra time-filled all time weaving, visiting, shopping. Lois and Joanne, I wanted to meet you two at NCBA since I feel I know you from WWs but the only time I saw you was at the meeting and I sat about 20 rows behind you. I am glad everyone had a good time, I did too. Next year lets all do the red ribbon thing again so we can pick each other out, or plan an evening get together in the lobby so we can meet. Now to find time to weave all the patterns I bought this year, and last year, and so on! Beth, Southeast Texas-warm-many many flowers blooming-love it. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 89 Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:06:08 -0400 From: "Cynthia Ludholtz" To: "David Collins" To all the complainers about the conventions: I wrote this once before and will say it again, I do not want to log on to WW and read nothing but complaints. To those that went to conventions and were not happy next time send me the money you spent I will go in your place and not complain. I would give my eye teeth to go but due to hubby retiring early and 3 years of health problems all we can afford right now is to pay our bills, wish I could go to one of the conventions but all I have is to read everyone else's experiences and I want to hear good ones not bad. I am sure if you tried you could have found something good and if not don't go back. Please! Please! Lets up lift our wonderful talent not run it or the people that try to further weaving. I could go on and on but I will get down off my soapbox. Happy Weaving, Cynthia Hensley Ludholtz Zenda Crafts %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 89 Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 09:41:28 -0400 From: Judy Mitchell To: David Collins References: 1 Hi Lois- >> I*m having a few problems with "knotless netting" and "looping". Does anyone know of a book, booklet, paper with diagrams that will explain those procedures? >> I've seen someone on TV doing this with seaweed, so from that and your terms, I'm pretty sure that what you are looking for also goes by the name of 'naalbinding' (or 'nalbinding with a little circle over the a). It was very common in Scandinavia in ancient times and medieval times since they didn't knit until very late, but it was done with wool yarn to make socks, mittens and hats. Amazing what you can adapt techniques to do, isn't it?! Anyway, if you can get hold of a book by Margrethe Hald called _Ancient Danish Textiles from Bogs and Burials_, or a book by Anna-MajaNylen called _Swedish Handcraft_ (which has a nifty section in it on basketry as well as any handcraft subject you could possibly think of!) they both have sections with diagrams on naalbinding. BTW, there are many ways of looping - I prefer the very simple single-loop that looks a lot like blanket-stitching or crotchet's chain stitch. My friends usually do a mover woven 4 or 5 loop stitch. Oh, there is one final place that has directions on this: Larry Schmidt writes (about 3 or 4 now) booklets on naalbinding for textiles. He has lots of historic info and many, many diagrams of all the different stitches. His booklets cost about $10 and up and are available from Susan's Fiber Shop, N250 Hwy A, Columbus, WI 53925 USA, phone 920-623-4237 (susanfiber@internetwis.com, or http://www.handspinning.com/susansfiber/). I'm sure once you see the diagrams, you'll be able to adapt for using waxed linen thread, or even the dried seaweed that I saw on TV to make baskets. Hope this is of some help. Judy Mitchell (And now back to lurking!) %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 89 Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:19:49 EDT From: Wileypat@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net To Barbara France, Usually, I stay out of these things. For the hurt on the part of the two ladies from Hawaii and your roommates, I want to offer this suggestion to you. Wouldn't an apology be in order? For whatever reason, your email was made public. Your response to its damage should be made public. I don't even know you, but based on your email, I don't want to. A meaningful apology would help those you hurt and all those you vented on--that's us who read WW. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weaver's Words Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:59:21 -0700 From: "Debra Jeske" To: "David Collins/WW" Hello David & fellow basket-makers, I am usually a lurker also, but felt the need to voice my opinion of the last couple Weaver's Words. I just found time to read the last two this morning. First, & most important, I would like to say Thanks! to David for providing this forum to share our experiences, wisdom, skills and enjoyment of basket making & weaving. Second, I would like to mention that I admire David for posting comments & all other mail as "unedited". Lastly, I would like to thank Patti Bagley for so perfectly conveying my exact thoughts in reference to Barbara France's bitter sentiments. She probably meant that to go to another "friend" who shares her bitter, pessimistic attitude about life in general (& then again, maybe not & her friend doesn't). I also feel sorry for her & wish she would have kept her comments to herself. It really appeared to me that she took some perverse pleasure in belittling others -and thanks to WW, WE all know about HER now. I will use this information as an opportunity to feel better about myself because I know I am not like Barbara France. I will become a better person myself because I will enjoy future conventions & meeting others that share a passion for creativity -and I will learn from others & enjoy our differences. If nothing else comes from our "unedited" comments I hope that Barbara France will take a good, long look at herself - maybe she will see that she needs to realize that we are all different in many ways: attitudes, looks, intelligence, creativity, finances and heart and THAT is what makes the world go around. Learn from others & learn from your mistakes. Another thing I learned at a young age (my mother told me many times) DON'T put it in writing unless you don't care if the world reads it. Barbara may not have heard that wisdom before.... Thanks for letting me vent a little. I'm sorry if I sound a little nasty, but someone in WW stepped on a nerve this morning.... Debra Jeske from rainy northern Michigan. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: NCBA Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:26:45 -0400 From: "Joe Conroy" To: "David Collins" Joanne Howard - I have thoroughly enjoyed reading about you and Lois at your first big convention. The two of you undoubtedly had a great time, made some new friends and learned some new technique for your weaving. Your comments brought back memories of the first time that I attended the Stowe Basketry Festival. I went by myself and was a bit apprehensive. Just walking into the community room at the Round Hearth (which is the headquarters for the Festival) was overwhelming. There were several mini-workshops going on. It was the largest group I had ever seen making baskets at one time. This year will be my seventh trip to Stowe and I still get excited about the festival. Two years ago I went with a couple of my weaving friends to the Michigan Convention. It was truly overwhelming. We declared it BASKETMAKERS' HEAVEN. Thanks for sharing your experiences with the rest of us weavers. Kate Conroy %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 89 Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:37:26 EDT From: SEAlbrecht@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net I just wanted to again let everyone know that Missouri Basketweavers Guild will have a convention in 2002. It will be June 7, 8 & 9 at the Regal Riverfront Hotel in Downtown St. Louis (across from the Gateway Arch and the St. Louis Cardinal's Stadium). We are having our first organizational meeting on April 19th. We are looking for a few more people to chair various committees as well as general volunteers. We are also collecting names and addresses of teachers who we would like to invite to submit for classes. This coming year we will also have a great spot for our vendors right next to the teaching area. We hope that we will see our usual but we hope to invite additional vendors. If you are interested, just e-mail me with your name, addresses, telephone number and e-mail address I will be sure to add you to our database. I will be visiting at the Indiana Convention talking to many of the people there about our convention. We are looking to have a great convention and a lot of fun. If you have any questions or ideas contact me at SEAlbrecht@aol.com or my co-chair, Sharon Plumpe at SKPLUM@solutia.com. Periodically I will be sending updates of what we are doing. Shirley Albrecht St. Louis, MO %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 89 Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:01:53 EDT From: CHyde1812@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net I would like to apologize up front for this. I didn't read Barbara's letter until I read all the comments about it. I then went back and read it, sorry a little late, but I have to comment. I am not going to bash Barbara, she obviously has her own issues, like never having had the love of a husband or children. Next, I want to address the issue of the Hawaii starved individuals. (By the way, my address is Honolulu, HI) It is a real shame that you never got the chance to really get to know Lois and Joanne. Starved? I have never met such fulfilled women. Isn't pride in our weaving part of the reason we do weave? They are both very talented, have great ideas, and are never afraid to share or to offer a compliment or word of encouragement. I can't wait for the guild meeting to hear all about the convention!!! Barbara, you have obviously had a lot of experience weaving, maybe share some of that instead of eight paragraphs of what you did share! Before we send things others will read, maybe we should print them, take them to the mirror, and read them while looking at ourselves... please keep in mind, would you want that said about yourself. What goes around, comes around...was it worth it. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Danish Oil!! Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 19:50:48 -0700 From: "Darlene or Gordon Pearce" To: "David Collins" Hello everyone-- My reason for writing this time is--I would like to know of a basket supply or anyone that could ship me the Watco brand of Danish oil--I can get Deft shipped--but there is a big difference in color--Watco is much lighter on the light walnut--I could get it here but the base exchange stopped stocking it--bummer--I've tried mixing with clear to lighten the Deft--but it just isn't the same shade-- Look forward to everyone's post--good or bad--funny or sad--we are a family-- Trying for spring--but it rains every other day-- Hugs from Okinawa..Darlene %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Wood bases Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 20:17:04 -0700 From: "Darlene or Gordon Pearce" To: , "David Collins" Janie O'Green for the Guild with No Name! I have done several drilled wood based baskets--sleighs and cradles--they are easy and fun to do--the round reed is held in place on the bottom--by either a simple or fancy braid--sometimes it's just looped through two adjoining holes-- Try it you will like it..http://www.noresta.com/ has several patterns with bases..as well as www.countryseat.com/ There are many more--but this should get you started.. Hugs from Okinawa Darlene %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Nantucket Workshop Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 19:06:00 -0400 From: "Patricia Yunkes" To: "David Collins" Dear Basketmaker, Just wanted to let you know that I am teaching a Nantucket Basketmaking Workshop at the Pennsylvania Guild of Craftsman on September 21,22 and 23. It will be held at their site at Tyler State Park in Richboro, Pa. The project will be an 8" Nantucket Basket. You can call them at 215-579-5997 or e-mail to jfranceski@pennsylvaniacrafts.com to register or for more information. Hope to get the newsletter out in a day or so, so look for it. Regards, Patricia Yunkes PATRICIA BASKETS Visit my web page: http://users.penn.com/~patricia %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: ATTN LYNDA CROWE :) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 21:50:46 -0400 From: "Jennifer Mulcare-Sullivan" To: "David Collins" Hi Lynda! (And everyone else ;) ! ) Sorry to bug you here in WW but... I tried to sign-up for the swap but my e-mail was returned w/ the following message: The original message was received at Sun, 8 Apr 2001 21:28:37 -0400 (EDT) from ec-mail-intake.mail.com [165.251.32.65] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 ... Host unknown (Name server: email.: host not found) Would you please contact me if it is not too late to sign-up for the swap? Thank You! :) Jennifer Mulcare-Sullivan %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Drilled bases, casket basket Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:43:27 -0400 From: "Angie Wagner-Country Seat" Organization: The Country Seat To: "- Weavers Words David Collins" Hi all! Janie, You must weave differently with drilled bases than slotted bases. The round reed fits through the holes and you must weave a footer on the bottom of the basket to hold the spokes in place, or I have heard of people pulling the round reed through the base holes and looping the round reed around the edge of the base and using doubled spokes or as extra spokes. The footer could be done the same way the you would weave a round reed rim. Just a simple rolled border on the bottom of the wooden base will work great. You can weave round reed, flat reed, etc on the sides of the baskets. Drilled bases are great for projects with kids, they can just weave up the sides. They could use yarn, string or other inexpensive materials. The drilled bases can be painted and the larger sizes make great trays. Re: Casket Basket - check out Baskets, Etc. http://www.bright.net/~basketc/casket.html - this link will take you pictures of Linda Boyle Gibson's casket basket. There's lots of history on woven caskets and the term "basket hold". I have also heard (and I believe it was posted to WW's previously) that the term "basket case" came from the time of Hobos. When a hobo was found on the tracks after being hit by a train, the body or body parts were placed in a basket. It was referred to as having another "basket case" today. Angie Glad that spring is finally here in PA! The Country Seat http://www.countryseat.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: looping/knotless netting Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:15:44 -0400 From: "Angie Wagner-Country Seat" Organization: The Country Seat To: "- Weavers Words David Collins" Lois - Glad to hear you guys had a great time at convention! I'll get there one of these days (I've only been to one as a vendor). You might want to check out the http://basketry.about.com Forum. There's been a thread going for a while on looping and knotless netting. Susi Nuss also has some great diagrams for knotless netting. I have a pattern for a small looped pouch and I couldn't get past the start of it. I have a better idea of how to do the knotless netting, now if I could only find the time to work on it :). Good luck, Angie The Country Seat http://www.countryseat.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: WW - Barbara France - NCBA Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 21:29:33 EDT From: BODBASK@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Like many others, I don't usually say much in this forum, however, I started reading the postings this week and had to go back and re-read the last posting and Ms. France's comments once again. Enough has been said negatively about it and I am not going to add any more (much). However, if she is "listening" I want to say this to her: I have been attending NCBA since 1986, which was two years after I started making baskets. Seeing newcomers or first timers brings back the excitement, confusion, joy and sheer magnitude of a conference fresh into my mind. It is an uplifting and happy experience that I relive each time because I remember what it was like at my first conference. It also reminds me every time of what many of these basket makers have been through with me personally and with each other. Some have died, some have dropped out and never been seen again, other's have helped me through the death of my husband, lung surgery, bad roof, no roof, flooding, and other personal and no so personal tragedies. We have commiserated (sp), griped, laughed, swapped lies, pictures, and recipes for many years. And we only see each other maybe this one time per year and we pick up where we left off. I would suggest that maybe for the 17th, 18, 19th and 20th conventions that you are pondering attending, you stay home. You obviously were not happy at this one and I cannot see where you ever will be from the tone of your post. While I do believe that you may have accidentally posted your message, which was meant to be private to a open forum such as this, I also believe that you owe a sincere apology. You cannot take back what has been said, the words are forever gone, but you can apologize for accident of the posting. Thank you, David, for allowing me this space... Jill from sunny, and getting hotter, Orlando... %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: NC Convention Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 21:54:05 EDT From: JrvChrs@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Hello, This is my first time posting on this site. I was told about it by some friends at AOL. They are right what a great source of info. The NC Convention in Raleigh is my first. Wow! what and incredible experience. It was a last minute decision to go and I'm glad I went. I have never seen so many basket weavers weaving in one room. If someone told me I wouldn't have believed it. Seeing for myself left an amazing impact. I went up for visitors day so I didn't take any classes but I did get to see all the interesting gadgets, supplies and patterns. Probably the best part of the trip was meeting my AOL Buddies in person. What a wonderful bunch, I met Susan Coyle who is out of this world along with Brenda Traffis who was kind enough to walk around and introduce me to some of the AOL members. Darla and Martha were busy taking class but didn't seem to mind me interrupting a bit while they were weaving. Gail found me which I thought was pretty cool, she had a break from teaching. Karen was busy also but took time out to talk a little in person, introduced me and Brenda to her friends that were visiting. Brenda introduced me to Judy Olney, who I might add is very pleasant. We sat outside enjoying the beautiful weather. I managed to get pictures with almost everyone I met. Judy, maybe next year. They all invited me for dinner, sadly I had to decline, I wish I could have stayed. I know it would have been a blast. I did miss a couple of the other AOL buddies hopefully I will run into them next time at the convention. I will hopefully be able to stay for a few days and enjoy it all. I did manage to bring home lots of patterns. By the way the pattern room was wonderful. The exhibit room also. Amazing works of art. I also bought some supplies to try new things at home. What great ideas people have. I was on a few other chats that week to see how everyone made out at the convention that I didn't get to meet. Well, I met Lois from Hawaii, what a nice lady. I'm glad I bought some stuff early because I think Lois bought the lot. I think I would have done the same if I were better prepared. I have only been weaving for a short time but I expect the next 20 yrs+ will be as good as the first. Which I have no doubt since baskets are forever changing. This experience will undoubtedly last a life time. Chris Jarvis From NC %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% If for any reason you would ever like to cancel your subscription, simply send me a message with "unsubscribe" as your subject.