"Weavers Words" Vol. 4 Iss. 55 Date Sent: October 07, 2000 Web Page: http://members.xoom.com/dgcollins/ Subscribers: 1477 David Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 Phone: (317) 899-5747 davidc@iei.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Do You Like Weavers Words? Click Below To "Recommend-It" To A Friend! http://recommend-it.com/l.z.e?s=210339 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% THE BASKET BOOKSTORE Stop by "Weavers Words Basketry Bookstore" for a great selection of basketry literature & save up to 40%. Over 40 titles to choose from. The address is: http://members.xoom.com/dgcollins/book.html %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ATTENTION NEW SUBSCRIBERS 1.) You can search Weaver's Words web page and back issues by going to Weaver's Words web page (http://members.xoom.com/dgcollins/) and entering your search criteria into the search box. 2.) If you have recently subscribed, more than likely you will read messages about a basket swap in progress. Basket swaps are organized by other weavers approximately every 2-3 months. So if a swap is in progress when you subscribe, be patient and a new swap will begin before you know it. Every subscriber is eligible for each swap as long as you fulfill you obligation from the previous swap. 3.) If you are looking for basket shops across the country, there is an extensive list on Weaver's Words web page. The shops are listed alphabetically. If you know of a shop that isn't listed, send me the shop's information for addition. Include all of the following if applicable: Shop's Name; Web Page Address; E-Mail Address; Street Address; City, State, Zip Code; Phone Number. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ATTENTION AOL SUBSCRIBERS For some reason some AOL subscribers haven't been receiving Weaver's Words through email. If you are one of these subscribers, or know one of someone who has not been receiving Weaver's Words, you can get all of the issues on the Weaver's Words web page. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ATTENTION ONLINE AUCTION USERS Make Auction Payments Thru PayPal Plus Get $5 - FAST, FREE & SECURE: https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=ka9zre%40yahoo.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Picture('s) Added To Web Page Since The Last Issue Jill Woods'-----New Use For A Willow Backpack. Leigh Ingram's-----Assorted Gourds. Leigh Ingram's-----Feathered Gourd Basket. Leigh Ingram's-----Hanging Gourd Basket. Leigh Ingram's-----Two Gourd Baskets. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Hi Everyone, I'm ready to begin distributing the "Basketry Travel Companion". I have exhausted all means known to find every basketry shop, museum, gallery etc. across the good old U.S.A. and Canada. There are over 125 basketry locales listed. Each locale will include all of the following information (if applicable): Locales Name Owner's Name Street Address City, State Zip Code Country Phone Number Fax Number Web Page Address E-Mail Address Hours Brief Description Of Locales Specialty I will send you a printout, which is 35 pages long & a copy of the original on a 3.5" diskette in Microsoft Word format. Sorry but Microsoft Word is the only format available. I will keep a list with everyone's e-mail address that purchases the companion. Then on the first day of each month I will e-mail you a new Microsoft Word file with any additions or corrections IF there are any. The cost of the printout and diskette is $15.00 shipped which includes free monthly updates. If you are interested, the preferred payment method is PayPal (Credit Card). This is the only way I can accept credit card payments. If you aren't familiar with PayPal, it's a method of sending money back and forth to one another. It's 100% safe and free and just for signing up you will get $5.00 deposited into your account, which means the Basket Companion will end up only costing you $10.00. PayPal is a very popular service used by most eBay sellers. If you would like to read more about PayPal or sign up, click the link below: https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=ka9zre%40yahoo.com If for some reason you prefer not to use PayPal you can send a money order, check or cash directly to me. The reason I prefer PayPal is to try and cut back on some of the snail mail. My address is below. David G. Collins, Jr. 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219-5334 Phone: (317) 899-5747 E-Mail: davidc@iei.net Thanks, David Weaver's Words %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 54 Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 21:04:07 -0500 From: kderrick@swbell.net To: David Collins References: 1 I have been lurking lately but had to pipe in about the potter and weaver that Bert Comstock mentioned. The shop is in Reeds Spring, not too far from Branson. It is the shop of Tom Hess and Lori Brown. Tom makes wonderful pots (I have 12) and Lori makes exquisite pine needle baskets (I have two small baskets and a couple of ornaments). I love to just hold Tom's pots because they are so smooth and cool. The last time I was there, they weren't selling supplies, but had a beautiful display of pots and baskets. They have a web site if anyone would care to learn more about them. It includes pictures and directions to the shop. http://pages.hotbot.com/biz/argh3d/hesspottery.html Joy and Kay: I was very sorry to hear about the death of your friends. I have been very fortunate in that regard but I know that if I am in the same situation, a whole group of wonderful people in the basket making community will be very kind and supportive. Reading about Pickersgill reminded me of a book I saw at the bookstore earlier this evening. It was "Tasha Tudor's Heirloom Crafts." At the beginning of the book, the author wrote that Tasha Tudor did not want all of the things she did labeled as "crafts." However, they couldn't come up with a better word! I do not know how old Tasha Tudor is, but she has been around for a long time...and she is still making baskets, weaving, spinning, milking goats, and a million other things. She's got Martha Stewart beat if you ask me. She said she had to quit pounding logs, though, because it caused quite a bit of pain in her hands. I think a retirement home for basket makers is a great idea! Sandy - About baskets for scouts...I have been making a small basket that I sort of designed. I saw a similar basket for 99 cents at Hobby Lobby and kind of went from there. The good thing about it is that it doesn't require putting on a rim. I call it a 'Favor' basket and made a dozen in a couple of nights as little Easter baskets for the folks I work with. I will email you with some information on it. David - Thank you so much for all of your work. Weavers Words is such a wonderful way to be able to talk and learn with other basket makers. Kathy in Parkville, MO. We are supposed to have a hard freeze this weekend! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Computer virus Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 07:05:30 -0400 From: "Joe Conroy" To: "David Collins" Joy Moody, Yes I had a virus. I apparently picked it up from one of the pattern swap participants. My son alerted me about the virus from an e-mail I sent him. My old version of McAfee didn't pick it up. I bought a new version of Norton AntiVirus 2001 for $20. It quarantined the virus and I have deleted it from my machine. People can check for this particular virus by "clicking" on Start and then use the Find function. Look for files named kak.* and *.kak. If you find any of those files you have been zapped. The $20 I spent seemed reasonable. It includes free updates for one year via the Internet. Joe Conroy %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Pattern Swap Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 07:09:15 -0400 From: "Joe Conroy" To: "David Collins" Good morning, Just a quick reminder that I will accept participants in the pattern swap until October 10. I then expect to e-mail the partners names and addresses on October 15. Joe Conroy %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: A teacher's doubt Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 07:33:12 -0500 From: "Tim Hall" To: Hi basketmakers, My daughter is studying a tribe of Indians for a class project. No big deal until Kailey said she would make a basket for her project (she does it all with a little help with lashing). Her teacher seemed very skeptical at the prospect of a 9 year old making a basket on her own. The teacher's comment was "ok, but I can tell if you bought it at Garden Ridge". I will offer to help with a demonstration to alleviate any doubt. Weavingly yours, Donna %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Oceans of Baskets Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 08:33:28 -0400 From: "Sarah Stoddard Watts" To: "David Collins" References: 1 This is in reply to Nancy Brandt's question if any other WW'ers are going to Oceans of Baskets in Wilmington, NC. I am! I'll be driving up from Savannah, GA on Friday afternoon, and I look forward to meeting other WW folks too... Sarah in glorious Savannah - a great day for flying! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: WW Swap #10 Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 22:15:41 -0400 From: "Kate Ulrich" To: "David Collins" Hello Weavers Words Weavers! Here are the rules and sign-up directions for the 10th (yes, 10th!) WW basket Swap! This will be a swap in which you send a basket you have woven to one person and receive a basket woven by someone else. Weave a basket you would be pleased to receive. DO NOT contact the person you are weaving for until you hear from them that they have received your basket. This swap is for Weavers Words subscribers only. You may sign up for this swap one time only. Sign up will be open from now until October 15, 2000. I will send you a message with the name and address of the recipient of your basket. Your personally woven basket must be sent to that person no later than November 15, 2000 (earlier is fine!). Anyone who has failed to follow through on participation in a previous WW swap will not be registered for this one unless they are able to provide written proof from the recipient of their basket that they did satisfactorily complete the earlier swap. To sign up for WW Swap #10, send an email message to me at basketswap@yahoo.com (This is an EMAIL address, NOT a website) containing the following information: Your Name Your Mailing Address Your Telephone Number Your Email Address. Optional information you may include if you wish: Anything that you might like for your partner to know about you! Colors, favorite styles, etc. I will NOT be sharing your phone number with anyone. Do NOT email me at the address this email is being sent from. That is my personal email. All WW swap entries need to be sent to basketswap@yahoo.com. Thank you all very much! Please please let me know if you are planning on going on vacation during this time, I have set the end of the swap to be finished before Thanksgiving for a reason. Happy Weaving! Katy Ulrich %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Responses Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 23:23:09 -0500 From: Tony Stubblefield To: David Collins/Weavers Words Lynn - No, I am not a copyright lawyer, but I would hope you would appreciate my views anyway. I am a published medical illustrator and copyright protection has been an important topic for all illustrators and people who create intellectual property so I have attended seminars on the topic and have do run into copyright issues in my profession. I assumed when you posted your message on this public forum that you were opening the issue up to the group. If I have overstepped my bounds I am sorry. I am sure that your response to me came across much more harsh than you intended it too anyway. Kate Conroy asked me why I like to use oval ribs in my ribbed baskets and why I switch to round as I approach the rims. Here is what I told her. Ok, lets see if I can explain why I use both round and oval ribs. It would be really easy to draw you a diagram or show you on a basket, but I think I can verbally do the job. Actually I was first shown to use both shapes when I took a white oak class in Tennessee and have noticed it done on other Appalachian baskets as well. First, this all depends on the shape of the ribbed basket. When I say "ribbed basket" I am almost always referring to a buttocks shaped basket. If you were making a melon basket you could use all oval ribs and it would be fine, but the exaggerate shape of a buttocks basket is where the hitch lays. One of the reason you would use oval shaped ribs in the first place is so that the weaving can lay as flat and smoothly as possible to the ribs. It is the same concept as beveling staves on a Nantucket. But, as the flared sides of the buttocks basket approach the rim and start curving back in, oval ribs will start standing up straight in profile and the weaving will no longer lay flat to them. At this point you need to use round ribs so that sides of the basket stay smooth. The more exaggerated the shape the more round ribs you will need. Also, if the basket is relatively flat on the bottom all those ribs can be oval as well. But, if the "cleft" in the bottom of the basket is too deep you would need to switch to round ribs as you approached the base of the handle as well. I guess maybe a good way to describe it is to think of an oriole basket shape. If you were to use only oval ribs in such a shaped basket then the ribs that go up the sharp flat sides of the basket would be oriented like the rungs of a latter as the profile of the oval would be running perpendicular to the weaving. Does that image make sense? I hope so. While the sides of the basket are in shadow I think this picture of an oriole basket from my web site may help http://www.tetranet.net/users/deanandtony/oriole.html. You can also see it demonstrated on the lidded basket where I used fairly large oval ribs (3/8" I think) http://www.tetranet.net/users/deanandtony/tool.html. There is nothing wrong with using all round ribs and many old baskets were made that way. Oval ribs just allow the ribs to be closer together without actually having to add more ribs. Take care and happy weaving, Tony Stubblefield St. Louis, MO http://www.jaskets %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 54 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:25:16 -0400 From: martyhln@juno.com To: davidc@iei.net Hi David and World Basketmakers, Joy, I search my files and the Basketmaker Magazine the first one was January 1984, the last one was May 1991. I wanted to clear up any confusion as to the dates of this publication. I do have duplicates of 4, of the Magazines. Spring and fall 1986, fall 1988, winter 1989, not sure I want to sell them, at this time. I will think on it. It was a great publication. October is going to be a busy month for me, as I am doing Flo Hoppe's class on the 14th, then comes AMB. And on November 4th our Guild in Kingston, Michigan was lucky enough to have the owner of, Just Patterns, "Sheri Van Duyn," as our guest teacher. I know all of this will be great fun, and I am delighted to have the opportunity, and strength to do it all. Lynda Crowe, I did almost the same thing to my eye in 1992, and can relate to your pain. August 26, of this year I broke 2 ribs, one of themin 2 places, doing baskets, Yes basket making can be dangerous and painful, so take care, all you wonderful people. Marty Holihan---Flint, Michigan---martyhln@juno.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: re: teaching 8-9 year olds Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 19:59:30 -0500 From: "Eve Sumsky/Paul Sumsky" To: davidc@iei.net Sandy, I taught a basket to a group of 3rd-4th graders at the elementary school where I teach for an explore class. There were 12+ in the class! But I had a fellow weaver help me, one of my mentors, and I promised any teacher who chose to help with my class that they could make a basket too! So there was a lot of help. We did have 3 - 1 hour class periods to work with so that helped. I would suggest a basket that is not lashed. I had them twine for a few rows at the top, then we cut the stakes like a picket fence. It was easier than lashing and cute. You'll be surprised how quickly they will catch on. By the second class some of the students were making suggestions of what they'd like to do (i.e. add a handle, different colors for the pattern, etc.) I felt bad that I had to curtail this creativity because of the "kits" I had made for each student. Hope you have fun, I'd like to teach the younger weavers again sometime myself. Eve Sumsky Northern Minnesota %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: WW Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 22:43:37 -0400 From: "C & D BASKETS" To: "Weaver's Word" To all of you at weaver's word: We would like to invite you to come to our site and print "Nancy's Knitting Basket". This is our newest Free Pattern. This basket is made on a 15"Birch Plywood base and uses a Speared sided Swing handle. We also invite you to check out our sale prices that have been extended until the end of October. Weaver's stain is $6 and PLB "Blue Ribbon Reed" is $5 per 1 lbs Coil. Hope you enjoy the free pattern Happy Weaving, Chuck C & D BASKETS WWW.CDBASKETS.COM %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Virus Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:32:18 -0400 From: "Joe Conroy" To: "David Collins" Hi David, I have had e-mail contact with Joy Moody and a couple of other people. The virus has been cleared from my computer. I have sent an e-mail msg to the person on WW that apparently sent it to me (accidentally, of course). I hope my msg to that person was helpful. If anyone feels that they have picked up a virus from me and has any questions I invite them to e-mail me. Thanks, Joe Conroy bsktjoe@ids.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: PhotoPoint "Movie" Album Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:32:23 EDT From: Wickrwoman@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net PhotoPoint.com, the free place to post your photos, has recently come out with a new feature that I think is really cool. You can make a "movie" out of your still pictures on your various albums, adding music, captions and other stuff to them. Only drawback is that they take forever to load! You can minimize the screen though, and do something else online while you wait for the "movie" to load. When you hear the "ta da" type opening music, go back to the screen and watch. I have set up several now, but you might be most interested in the Basketry Workshops and Antler Baskets "movies." Just go to the albums I list below, and then click on the left hand side where it says, "Watch Movies," click on the appropriate album movie and wait till it loads. http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=16796&a=80069 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=16796&a=72533 Enjoy! The Wicker Woman/Cathryn Peters/Zumbro Falls, MN Visit my website: http://www.wickerwoman.com/ Subscribe to my ezine: http://wickerwoman.listbot.com/ PhotoPoint Album Index http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=16796&Auth=false %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 53 Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 18:34:19 -0500 From: Roberta Comstock To: David Collins "Weavers Words" Vol. 4 Iss. 53 Joy - I'm sorry to hear of the loss of your friend. I know how frustrated and helpless that can feel. Consider yourself hugged. Pat Wiley - I really enjoyed your conference report. The wire and fire class must have really been fascinating & fun. Thanks for posting the Canadian contact information, too. Lynda - You have my sympathy on the loss of your grandfather. When you have time, would you please post the publisher's info on the new COUNTRY BASKETS book? "carav" - Please give us a name - you forgot to sign your WW posts. Good luck with your shop. Debbie Czerwionka - Oval/oval reed makes wonderful ribs for rib baskets, such as the hen basket. Use it for the ribs that form the bottom of the basket, and switch to round for the sidewalls. I understand your frustration with the pattern that refers you to a book (for the Gretchen border). I try to make sure any pattern I buy (or write) has enough detail in the instructions that outside references are not required. I realize this is no help in your present dilemma though. Sorry. Bert Comstock Lauderdale Independence, MO, where the acorns off the pin oak sound like popcorn popping on the sunroom roof %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 54 Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 18:36:38 -0500 From: Roberta Comstock To: David Collins "Weavers Words" Vol. 4 Iss. 54 LYNDA CROWE - Hope your eye is much better by now. Safety glasses wouldn't be a bad idea & they really don't have to be expensive. Sandy Schmidt - I don't recommend 1" reed for a beginner basket, especially not for children. 3/8" or 1/2" for ribs/spokes is much easier to handle. With 1/2" spokes you could use 3/8" or narrower weavers. I like to start beginners with a simple round basket. Begin the weaving with twined #2 or 3 round reed & then switch to plain weaving with flat or flat oval as you start to go up the sides. This basket is very flexible in terms of weavers' ability. It can be wide and flat or nearly cylindrical, depending on how they want to shape it. Everyone I teach this basket seems to enjoy adding some color to it, especially space dyed reed. Sometimes we chase weave with plain and dyed reed. If you do continuous weave with one weaver, you have to either split one spoke, add an extra half-spoke or go over two ribs at the end of each round (making a twill spiral). In a one hour class time with beginners, you probably won't have enough time to work in handles. A popular alternative is a small square base berry basket (5 X 5 spokes with weavers narrower than the spokes) If you make the rim pieces of flat reed slightly wider than the spokes, it can be pulled tight above the weaving when you lash and no rim filler is required. For a rectangular ditty basket weave the base 3 X 7 spokes. For a pencil holder, weave the base 3 X 3 spokes and make the sides taller. You can cut a cardboard liner to keep things from slipping out the gaps in the base (or weave fillers into the base). There are several good easy patterns available free on the Internet that could be used for a project like this. Be sure to give the author of the free pattern credit. Susan Reed-Fanfoni - I think it's great that you have such a great vacation to savor while you recover. Take care of yourself & get well soon! Bert Comstock Lauderdale Crispy Cool Independence, MO %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Basket Shops in NY Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 22:59:42 +0000 From: Laurie Burns To: davidc@iei.net David I am anxiously awaiting your basket companion booklet! But, until it is available, can anyone tell me where the Gingham Patch, Ram-b-Lyn-Reed Baskets and Woven Treasures are? I tried unsuccessfully to find them on the web. My husband and I will be traveling in the Finger Lakes area next weekend and I wondered if any of these shops might be close by? Are there any other shops that anyone knows of that we could stop at on the way? We are starting from central NY (Clinton) and traveling south to Corning. I also had a woman ask me to repair an old willow basket. Since I do not work with willow, I am unable to do so. Is there anyone out there that may be able to repair this type of basket? I already contacted Cathryn Peters AKA the wicker woman and she said I should post it on WW. Is there anyone out there? Thank you in advance for any help you can give me! Laurie in Upstate NY where snow is said to be on the way! YUK! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Basket Stencils Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:17:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Lori Hasan To: davidc@iei.net Hello, Does anyone know of a good source for basket stencils? I am especially looking for a small pumpkin that will fit on an one inch stencil strip. Thanks! Lori in chilly Ohio %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Minnesota Basket Weavers Guild Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 16:48:05 GMT From: "pam duffykope" To: davidc@iei.net Happy Fall Y'All There's still time and space available to register for the Minnesota Basket Weavers Guild Fall Workshop. The workshop takes place on November 11, 2000 at the Southshore Center in Shorewood, MN (a suburb of Minneapolis). Outstanding basket teachers include Patti Hawkins (Duplicity), Susan Coyle (Great Lakes Picnic Carrier), Marlene Meyer (Birch Vase), Tressa Sularz (Twined Waxed Linen Workshop), and LaVaune Emerson (Feathered Crown). To view these baskets, logon to www.members.tripod.com/duffykope/2000workshop. If you would like a hard copy, please email me privately. Pam From Minneapolis where the high is suppose to be around 30-35. Yuk - it's too early for this!!! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% If for any reason you would ever like to cancel your subscription, simply send me a message with "unsubscribe" as your subject.