"Weavers Words" Vol. 4 Iss. 28 Date Sent: July 19, 2000 Web Page: http://members.xoom.com/dgcollins/ Subscribers: 1438 David Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 Phone: (317) 899-5747 davidc@iei.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Do You Like Weavers Words? Click Below To "Recommend-It" To A Friend! http://recommend-it.com/l.z.e?s=210339 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% THE BASKET BOOKSTORE Stop by "Weavers Words Basketry Bookstore" for a great selection of basketry literature & save up to 40%. Over 40 titles to choose from. 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If you are one of these subscribers, or know one of someone who has not been receiving Weaver's Words, you can get all of the issues on the Weaver's Words web page. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ATTENTION ONLINE AUCTION USERS Make Auction Payments Thru PayPal Plus Get $5 - FAST, FREE & SECURE: https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=ka9zre%40yahoo.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Picture('s) Added To Web Page Since The Last Issue NONE %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 27 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 20:48:22 -0500 From: Arlene j zaloznik To: davidc@iei.net Claudia - I do a fair number of shows and it has taken time for me to figure out how to show the most baskets. I have 3 folding shelves that I got from the wood factory (www.woodfactory.com). I also bought their pegboard revolving display so I can hang baskets. This works out well for me. I have my cash receipts, credit card, etc on a small TV table (sometimes 2) and put the large baskets on the floor (on a rug). I have only seen 2 other basket displays (not many weavers in the shows in the west TX - NM area) - they both have similar setups. Hope this helps. Arlene, El Paso, TX %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: A question for the "masses" Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 21:48:39 EDT From: Dvancuren@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net I am a new weaver and have become quite addicted in just a few short months. I have dyed reed with "plain old dye" (i.e., Rit and Basket Tree) but would now like to try it with walnuts. I have gathered quite a lot of walnuts from the trees (actually the ground) in my front yard but now have no idea what to do with them. They still have soft green outer shells. I would appreciate any guidance for what I should do with these nuts to make the stain (assuming this is even possible and I haven't gotten completely "off-track"). Thanks, Deb - A "lurker" no more, Redding, Connecticut %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 27 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 22:30:17 -0500 From: kderrick@swbell.net To: David Collins References: 1 Dee, I'm sure you will get a response from Bert Comstock, too. She knows more than I do about this, but in case Bert is busy... There are two guilds in Kansas City that I know of right now. There is the Woven Circle Guild, which I know Bert belongs to and she can give you up-to-date information on that. I currently only belong to Basket Buddies, which is a smaller group. We haven't met for several months because we lost our weaving space, but we have found a place and will be having a meeting in August and learning a beautiful basket from Paula Harrison. It's not a Nantucket, however. I don't have the exact information yet, but I'd be glad to pass it on when I do. There are several basket makers who teach, including Paula, Ann Clark, Sandy McCormick, Wanda Graham, Marcia Hornig, Sharon Hill, Sue Chatfield and others. I have had them all as teachers and they all taught me just fine! Wanda is even listed in the Yellow Pages under Baskets as 'Gray Homestead Designs.' She teaches out of her home. Ann has taught at the Shawnee Indian Mission and I know Sandy has taught at various community colleges, etc. I believe Wanda has molds to use and has taught Nantucket's. She would be a good resource for any basket information. Kathy in Parkville, MO %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Swap info for new subscribers Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:34:28 EDT From: NanoAnd@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Dear David: Once again THANK YOU for all you do to keep us communicating! I do have one suggestion. Every time a swap is underway with postings of people receiving and sending their baskets there are new subscribers who want to know how to get involved. (I know this first hand because I was new not too long ago) Rather then having each new subscriber ask in the WW forum and maybe or maybe not get an answer. I thought it might be a good idea to send a letter to new subscribers automatically when they subscribe that explains the forum a little bit and also the procedures for our swaps. Does this sound like a good idea to anyone else? I don't remember if I received a welcome letter or not when joining WW. However, I know I've subscribed to other newsletters on the net that automatically send out a welcome letter upon receiving my subscription. I wonder if we can do the same and include swap procedures at the same time? Just a thought! Nan Anderson, Loaded with supplies and ready to weave in South Haven, Michigan! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Hello Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 23:46:12 -0500 From: Tony Stubblefield To: David Collins/Weavers Words Nan - about basket poster - Somewhere I have the poster you are talking about. My parents found it for me about 7 or 8 years ago. Unfortunately I don't know anything else about it. I need to figure out were it is. It was stored between cardboard and I hope it didn't get pitched! Melissa - about ordering a shaving pony - They are available from a number of places: Royal Wood http://www.bright.net/~roylwood/index.html GH Productions http://www.basketmakerscatalog.com/ and Nate's Nantucket http://www.basketshop.com/ to name a few. Angelique - about Native American's and splint basketry - I am not sure, but I was under the assumption that the Indians developed processing brown ash by pounding the log until the annular rings split off. I didn't think there was a tradition of splitting hardwood into basketry material in Europe. I will have to do some research in some of my books and see what they say. Well, I have to finish up my laundry and pack for Ann Arbor. I have set myself a nice spending limit so I should have a really good time and come back with some treasures. I will let you all know what I find. Happy Weaving, Tony Stubblefield St. Louis http://www.JASkets.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Workshop questions Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 21:54:00 -0700 From: "Sallie Moore" To: "David Collins" We are planning a "hands-on" dyeing workshop in the near future (whilst we can still work primarily outdoors on my deck w/ Coleman stoves!) While I have used primarily Rit dye (either dry or liquid), I know that others types exist (Procion, natural, Dylon, etc). Does anyone have experience with this sort of "seminar" and/or suggestions about how to conduct it??? Thanks in advance for all your suggestions! Sallie Moore Great Basin Basketmakers Reno, NV %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: Basket Swap #9 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 01:02:25 EDT From: Mkbskts@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Had to let you all know that I got my basket from Faye Stukey the other day. Got a call at work just as I was getting ready to leave, and was told I'd want to hurry home as there was a large box waiting for me! I did, there was, and I tore into it immediately. Faye made a small and beautiful antler handled round basket, with round reed, vine rattan, and simply gorgeous dark red osier dogwood that grows wild in her area. She also sent me 2 containers of homemade jam, again from wild fruits in the area. Faye, you even chose my 2 favorite flavors - plum and raspberry! How did you manage that one? At any rate, she does WONDERFUL work, and I feel truly blessed to have one of her baskets. It is absolutely beautiful.... I also want to let someone in a state not too far from me know that her basket will be going out tomorrow, so be on the lookout for a red, white and blue truck about Saturday (or Monday, knowing how 'un-quick' they are...). Hope it's worth the wait... Barb Peterson, in suddenly cool SE WI; I have a day off Friday, and may weave all day... %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 24 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:21:32 -0500 From: Roberta Comstock To: David Collins "Weavers Words" Vol. 4 Iss. 24 Mona Campbell - It would probably be possible to take some of the bark from a live hickory tree, but I don't recommend it. You'd have to deface a lot of trees to get enough inner bark for a basket and the scarred areas would leave the tree weakened and susceptible to disease and insect infestations. Besides which, it doesn't just pull off the way western cedar bark will. Your best bet is to find one that's expendable and take the whole tree down. You have to pound on the log (much like pounding black ash) to break down the connective tissue between the tough layers and then strip it off. I think the people I've watched were actually stripping the sapwood too, because all they had left was the white heartwood. They started with small logs about 5 inches in diameter. They didn't use the heartwood, because they were making strips for chair seat weaving. I think the heartwood could be carved into decent basket handles and rims though. Sue Ann (and others) - I have one looping pattern that I have written which is an introduction to looping using several different materials. If you want more details, please contact me privately. I think Royalwood may also have a pattern or two - theirs would be by Kathy Halter. Sandy Schmidt - Weavers Words swaps come along every 2 or 3 months. When the current swap is over, the records will be sent to the next coordinator who will then announce the rules and sign-up instructions for the next swap. Watch for the announcement to be posted in WW. The main things that are required for participating are first, that you are a WW reader and second, that you have not failed to follow through on a previous swap. Even people who have failed to follow through on previous swaps can become eligible to again participate by completing their delinquent obligations and getting the recipient of their basket to inform the current coordinator. Helen Schwartz - Are your oak weavers machine splint or hand split? Either one will have to be soaked longer than you soak reed. The oak will shrink sideways when it dries, so you need to let the basket dry and pack the weaving down again before applying the rim. Elaine in St. Louis - You have my condolences for the death of your father. Hope the family and health problems are getting better. Glad you are getting back to weaving some now. Lou Kuykendall - I remember someone describing a potato masher basket they had made, but nobody seems to have ever mentioned that a pattern was available. Mindy - Having finally made a couple of Nantucket's, I really admire you for making all the ones you did for the wedding. Shirley in Humid Northern Indiana (and others) - Here is how to join the Willow and Natural Baskets list, an automated, user maintained willow/naturals list. Anyway, to subscribe, send a post to , with the body of the post being: subscribe baskets. You will get confirmation that you are on the list, instructions on how to post messages to the list, and how to unsubscribe from it. The messages come to you individually as they are posted by other subscribers. Rob Sutherland is the original 'list owner'. I'm not sure if he's on WW at this time. Sharle Osbourne has been coordinating with people in the US, but I don't know if she has had time to read WW recently and keep up with the several inquires that I've seen here lately. Bert Comstock Lauderdale, Independence, MO %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 27 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 07:51:18 EDT From: Linhebert@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Wickerwoman Cathryn, Thanks for the outstanding explanation of cattail prep. If that doesn't inspire someone to try cattail weaving, nothing will! Linda Hebert V. I. Reed & Cane http://www.basketweaving.com Arkansas, where the overcast skies are cooling us down %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Computer mice/shop list Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 08:03:01 -0400 From: "Mary Hooper" To: "David Collins" Hello All: I've just come to the end of another issue of WW and again am amazed at the depth and breadth of knowledge and skill of the American basket weavers. One day, frustrated as the dickens, I beat to death my computer mouse and was getting ready to do it to another one. Then I figured out what many of you already know, but some may not: If you have a recalcitrant mouse that won't do your bidding, open up the cover over the ball on the bottom. Take out the ball and wipe off the two little bars inside with a swab dipped in alcohol. Then wash and dry the ball and swab it with alcohol. When the ball is good and dry, put it back and replace the cover. Then wash and dry the mouse pad. Amazing! No need of losing it in a frenzy of frustration and committing a felony murder. David: Since so many people are asking about shops, museums etc for their travels, is there any chance we could have a list? Maybe with addresses and comments from people who have been there? You are already too good to all of us with the maintenance of the WW homepage and this frequent posting of our letters, maybe someone on the list who understands computers better than I could set it up with a mechanism for members to enter data from their own computer????? I wonder about the feasibility of this, realizing that most weavers have plenty to do just on a daily basis, so am hoping not to stir up any wrath, just comments... Mary Hooper, from the mountains where the temperature is rising but that may just be a hot flash...... mjhooper@mitchell.main.nc.us %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: A Swap Basket is on the way... Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 08:38:11 -0400 From: "Jennifer Mulcare-Sullivan" To: "David Collins" References: 1 I'm on my way to the Post Office w/ a swap package for someone in PA!! :) Jennifer %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Basket Swap #9 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 08:45:15 -0400 From: "Jennifer Mulcare-Sullivan" To: "David Collins" Hello from sunny MA! I wanted to let fellow swappers know the I received a beautifully woven Cabin Boy basket from Bren Miller! I'll be using it as a baby item carry-all this December!! She sent all sorts of great "extras" including some Philodendron sheaths ....... now I have to figure out just the "right" basket to weave them into! Thank You for your thoughtful swap package Bren!! And a HUGE Thank You to Faye Stukey for organizing & running swap #9!! GREAT JOB Faye!!!!!!! :) Jennifer Mulcare-Sullivan %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Swap Basket Received Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 07:50:39 -0500 From: "Susan Slaven" To: Hello: I received the most beautiful Williamsburg basket from Kate Conroy from Exeter, RI on Monday (7/18). She included two basket note pads. The color in the basket is just perfect, and matches my room beautifully. Thank you so much Kate. Susan Slaven - Muncie, IN %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Shaving Pony Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:33:55 EDT From: Basktsuply@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Hi everyone: I just wanted to add an additional thanks to David for all his hard work. I am sure he knows how much we all appreciate the opportunity to have this great exchange of information. To Melissa: We carry the shaving pony and shaving puppy as well as many other Nantucket supplies in our shop. We also carry oak, cherry and black ash for staves and molds, wooden bases and a new line of handles that we are just now introducing. You can view a variety of our supplies at www.brickhousebaskets.com or call us at 1-800-905-3513 for information and prices. Ginny Pelletier Brick House Basket Supply %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weavers Words Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:36:27 -0400 From: "Russ & Leslie Johnson" To: Hello to all you Basket cases! Sharon Klusmann: So glad you were able to attend the Wyandotte Art Fair! I am originally from Wyandotte and think the Fair and all the events that go along with it are wonderful. Tony Stubblefield: Hope you have fun at the Ann Arbor Art Fair! People watching is a sport at that fair! Hope you get to attend all the different Fairs going on there. Re: Masher basket. I do not have a pattern for one but have made 3 different ones. Since the masher is about 3-4" wide that will be the width of the basket and the length is about 6-8" or whatever you want. It really depends on the masher you have. One I made had straight up "arms" and was able to weave the basket sides on the "arms". Another masher leaned inward so the first 3 rows are woven on the "arms" and then I inserted a spoke in place of the "arm" and it is woven free of the masher. Another masher I had was really an antique and had 4 arms, it needed something special and I had no idea what to do with it. The base was 2x2 etc, So I decided to weave it into a round basket and it is adorable! I weave the base on top of the masher. I really think the masher style is what dictates the weaving and there are so many styles in the antique stores. Buy one and have fun with it! If I can get my photos organized, I will send photos to David to post. Leslie in SE Michigan, little cloudy & breezy but otherwise a lovely summer day %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 27 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 06:56:35 -0700 (PDT) From: sweetchips To: David Collins Can anyone suggest a detailed book for knotted baskets made from waxed linen? I have found a couple of little patterns for pouches, but I'm more interested in vessels. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for all the great info. Shari on the sweltering MS Gulf Coast Visit my websites at www.geocities.com/sweetchips and www.geocities.com/longleafms And my web office at: www.webex.com/office/sweetchips %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 25 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:24:48 -0500 From: Roberta Comstock To: David Collins "Weavers Words" Vol. 4 Iss. 25 Vicky Shontz - Once you know how to do a Gretchen border, you can put one almost anywhere. If you draw an imaginary undulating line around the side of a basket and then work a Gretchen "border" following that line, it will indeed make an undulating pattern. They can also be done near the base to look like a foot, or around a drilled picture frame or on a drilled gourd. Billie - Now I've got another tool on my want list! That calculator sounds like a very useful thing. Regarding your computer problem, you may have accidentally hit the Ins key (bottom of the 0 on the number pad) and switched from insert mode to type over mode. I hate it when that happens. Eve Sumsky - Yes you can dry cattail leaves and weave with them later. To use, dip them in water, then wrap them in a towel for an hour or so to mellow. The stems aren't good for weaving - too stiff & brittle, but you could use some with the seed heads on in fall bouquets. Just be sure to stabilize them with hair spray or a light coat of clear spray paint or you'll have fuzz flying everywhere. The leaves can be woven flat or twisted into cordage. Joanne Howard - if you don't have ready access to leather dyes, try shoe polish. This assumes that you are working with leather that has not already been sealed and finished. Bert Comstock Lauderdale, Independence, MO %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Bits and Pieces Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:14:29 -0400 From: "John W. Dorris" To: "Weavers Words" Lois, checked out the baskets in Country Living, I have seen his work at various shows but didn't realize he was painting them these days. The only problem I see with them is that brown ash is so expensive (if you have to buy it) or labor intensive (if you split your own) that I'd hate to see it covered with paint. There is also some gorgeous wicker furniture in that issue. Question? Is anyone besides me having the cane spokes stick to the rubber band? Has just started to happen recently and it took me a while to realize it was with almost every basket I'm doing these days. It is a real pain especially in those baskets where the spokes don't fit in the groove snuggly. Has everyone remembered to renew your NC membership? I offer this reminder as I seem to have forgotten to renew Mich. last year. Seems as if there was something else I wanted to comment on but can't remember what. Billie in HOT Va. Beach %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Pack Baskets Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 16:27:56 -0400 From: "Joy Moody" To: Woah! Since I've been quoted out of context, a bit of clarification is in order: The question I was responding to was about the origin of pack baskets used by Indians and trappers. Well, which Indians, in what part of the country, and when? Documentation at Plimoth Plantation (living history museum) in Massachusetts tells us that the first Pilgrims came with provisions, including baskets, as those financing the settlements recognized that there'd be no time for basket making in the first years. Certainly, basketmaking including pack baskets were well established in the old countries, some in willow, some in splint. I never said that Indians didn't make splint baskets! But, I did say that prior to contact, "evidence of this basket making specialization is absent from known archeological sites in the Northeast" (Indian Baskets, Sarah & William. Turnbaugh). In the 1700's the baskets of THIS AREA specifically (Maine & North) were birch bark & quill. However, it's important to remember that Native American tribes are not, & never have been, homogenous - varying widely in customs, language, dress, craft styles etc. No doubt, most every tribe had some sort of pack basket at some point in time. It's also safe to assume that settlers from various countries of origin brought their basketmaking traditions with them. There are many great references that show pack baskets from "the old countries". Here in Maine, splint basketry hit its peak during the 1800's when the Shakers and the Wabinaki tribes went head-to-head in their competition for sales. I stopped over at the Hudson Museum (at the U. of Maine in Orono) today to re-tour their basketry exhibit. The 1700's examples are birch bark & birch bark/quill. By the 1800's, the tribes had moved on to splint. Hope this helps clarify! I ran into a friend today at the museum, who happens to be a recent tribal leader (Governor, not Chief, according to Maine's current structure) & he said they make no claims of having been the first to make pack baskets. Joy Moody Sign of the Crow http://www.signofthecrow.com in Maine where it's hotter today, but has been cool recently. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Honeysuckle Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 17:15:11 -0400 From: Angelique Raptakis To: "Weavers Words (E-mail)" Wow, there's been a lot of posts lately. I like that, it means more issues of WW more often! I was supposed to be traveling with work for these three weeks, but the meetings were postponed until September. So instead, I'm going to head to West Virginia, where I know of an overabundance of honeysuckle. I have never collected it before, let alone used it in weaving. Does any one have any tips on collecting and/or weaving with it? Is now a good time to harvest? I checked on a leftover dye bath of pink Rit from a couple of weeks ago, and to my surprise, it was clear!! well, actually kinda murky looking. I've been having a terrible time attempting to store dye, but my walnut stain is still hanging in there. I guess I'll try to make my dye bath smaller for whatever project I'm working on and then say goodbye to it. My swap basket is done, just waiting for it to dry, Hopefully will be sent out tomorrow am. to someone who shares my last initial in a state starting with same letter as mine. Angelique Raptakis in still rainy MD. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: (No subject) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 17:41:21 -0500 From: shontz To: David Collins Tony, I just wanted you to know that I found your mother's shop and she is a delightful lady. Her shop is really nice too, and she did have her new awning up. I also found your dad's place and could have spent a fortune there! Did buy a few things. I had my mom along and she bought some things too. Fortunately (for me) I have a VERY small car. Porky's was wonderful. We were just in time for lunch. Wonderful! I will definitely visit Mexico the next time I visit my daughter. Vicky Shontz in breezy and cool (at the moment!) Iowa %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Thanking Diane Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 17:13:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Ingrid To: David Collins Hello all, This is the first mailing I have received (THANK YOU DIANE M.!!!) and I'm already overwhelmed and excited. I have made 3 baskets and am so in love my husband thinks I have lost my brain! I'm on my first basket that didn't come in a kit and I am a little confused but I'll get through it. I hope to get to know ya'll a bit more and I KNOW I'll learn a LOT! Thanks so much for the mailing! I can't wait to hear from ya'll! Ingrid McCue %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Nantucket Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 20:29:12 -0400 From: "Donna L" To: "David Collins" Hi everyone - Hope you are all enjoying the summer - beautiful weather here in PA. Bill & I are going to be in Boston in August and would like to stop at Nantucket on the way home. Anyone have a favorite place to recommend? I know it's rather late, but when I looked up all the places on the web - I just got so "mind-boggled" that I quit. We just figured to spend 1 or 2 nights there. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Donna bordlong@fast.net http://www.countryseat.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 25 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:10:27 -0400 From: "Donna L" To: "David Collins" Faye - My 2 cents regarding "kids swap" even though mine are too old to participate. Personally I think they would have more fun swapping among themselves as someone said - kids know what other kids like. They would have more freedom to be whimsical if they choose without wondering if an adult would "like" what they had made. Ex: I could imagine pokeymon cardholders if that is what they might be interested in. Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying by any means that they don't do good work. I've found it easier to teach children over the years than adults (they don't think they already "know it all!). I think their minds are less cluttered-they don't ask near as many why's and what if's when weaving. I've had a lot of fun with kids and their finished baskets have been better looking than some adult classes. Kids get thrust into the "grown-up" world all too soon anyway. Donna, in wonderfully cool PA bordlong@fast.net http://www.countryseat.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Leather Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:56:24 -0400 From: "Joy Moody" To: Hello again. I checked that leather dye & the brand name is Fiebing. It comes in about 8 colors & runs around $5 for 4 oz. Joy Moody Sign of the Crow http://www.signofthecrow.com In Hampden, Maine where tomorrow promises to be warm & sunny! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Answers to WW? s Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 22:13:43 -0400 From: "Cynthia Ludholtz" To: Carol Votaw, We live just about 1 hour drive from Faith Mountain store and warehouse, the store is really neat, it is in an old school building at Sperryville, VA. Sperryville is one route that leads into the Shenandoah Valley from Northern VA and the Eastern side of the Blue Ridge. If you ever get to this area it would be a great place to check out, antique shops, etc. The neatest place to eat at Sperryville is The Appetite Repair Shop, everything is done in a car garage motif. Food ain't bad either, at least on the one time I ate there, all the locals like it. Where is SC do you live? We have visited at Charleston some years ago, and I have a young friend that just recently moved to Anderson. Happy Weaving. Cynthia In Harrisonburg, VA Zenda Crafts %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% If for any reason you would ever like to cancel your subscription, simply send me a message with "unsubscribe" as your subject.