"Weavers Words" Vol. 4 Iss. 17 Date Sent: June 30, 2000 Web Page: http://members.xoom.com/dgcollins/ Subscribers: 1431 David Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 Phone: (317) 899-5747 davidc@iei.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Do You Like Weavers Words? Click Below To "Recommend-It" To A Friend! http://recommend-it.com/l.z.e?s=210339 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% The Basket Bookstore Stop by "Weavers Words Basketry Bookstore" for a great selection of basketry literature & save up to 40%. Over 40 titles to choose from. The address is: http://members.xoom.com/dgcollins/book.html %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Earn $0.50/Hour By Surfing The Net From AllAdvantage.com: http://www.alladvantage.com/home.asp?refid=BOK567 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Attention AOL Subscribers For some reason some AOL subscribers haven't been receiving Weaver's Words through email. If you are one of these subscribers, or know one of someone who has not been receiving Weaver's Words, you can get all of the issues on the Weaver's Words web page. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Picture('s) Added To Web Page Since The Last Issue NONE %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Hi Everyone, Unfortunately the search engine on Weaver Words web page no longer exists. The company that provided the service discontinued the service without notifying me. I will be looking for a new provider that offers a similar service. Also I found out that Yahoo will let you store you images/photos for FREE. Not only will they store your photos for free but they will send you 100 4X6 prints from the photos that you upload. Here's the web page: http://photos.yahoo.com/ Take Care, David %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Tapestry Gourd Class Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:43:33 -0500 From: lboylegibson@juno.com To: davidc@iei.net Greetings from Indiana! It is hard for me to believe that July is almost here, but the lazy, crazy, days of summer seem to be flying by. I wanted everyone who might be fairly close to Bloomington, Indiana to know that Marla Helton will be coming to teach a Tapestry Gourd class at the In a Hand Basket studio on Saturday, July 15. There are a few spots available and the cost is $50.00. Please e-mail or call (numbers are listed below) if you are interested. Marla's classes are always so much fun and if you have never played with gourds -- just do it! Also a huge thank you to all the people at the Missouri Convention that signed the get-well convention bag for my friend Susan. I was unable to attend the convention this year because my son was graduating from high school, and since I'm trying for the Mother of the Year Award I thought I better not miss the ceremony! Karen Mitchell was instrumental in initiating the autographing and Susan was overwhelmed with all the names and messages that were on the tote. She carries it everywhere and it is a source of pride, encouragement, strength and hope. Today is a perfect day to dye --- so I'm off to the big pots to dye seagrass and a new variegated combination we have come up with -- maybe a Victorian flare of mauve, green, goldish yellow, and brown. These aren't even my colors and I love the combination. Call me crazy, but I do love to dye reed and seagrass! Happy Weaving to all. Linda Boyle Gibson, In a Hand Basket 3105 S. Old SR 446, Bloomington, IN 47401 Site-- 812-333-1817 ORDERS: 1-800-997-1948 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weaver's Word Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:37:36 -0400 From: "Jayna Glemby" To: "David Collins" Thanks to many of you for the added information about the Indian Museum in NH and other basket sites. My 3 basket buddies will join me, mid July for a day trip there. Tony...I forgot about the Shaker village...good idea. Just hope I can get around to all of them without pain. Still hobbling on a cane and I know the old bones will be stiff after the long ride, but with baskets as motivation, I'll crawl! I heard from a few people with regards to my question about having lots of patterns...so many of us have bought patterns and never got around to making them. At least I don't feel so bad now, knowing there are lots of pattern addicts out there. I also received an interesting suggestion for those of us who have bought duplicate patterns. Perhaps we could have a pattern swap. I don't think this would be detrimental to pattern makers as we all purchased the patterns...in fact, two times. If there is an interest I would be glad to coordinate it. The patterns should be new ones, like the type in clear sleeve protectors with a photo of the basket. That way everyone would receive something of similar value. It certainly wouldn't be much expense, just to slip a duplicate pattern into a manila envelope and mail it off to your pattern swap buddy. How about some discussion on this idea? Well time to get to bed...it's after 1:30am, and I've been up with my nose in a Mary Higgens Clark book and took a break. Jayna in central Massachusetts %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: THANKS!! Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:37:15 EDT From: SharonKlusmann@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Dear David and Readers: I cannot believe how many WW are sitting on my computer to read and have been unopened - I will find the time! I would just like to publicly thank all of you who responded to my need to find a handle maker for the order for 500 baskets I got. I just received my first shipment of them yesterday from one of the responses and couldn't be happier - thanks Donna from Homestyle Shop in Millington, MI. She is a delight to work with and very, very helpful! This has been a wild ride hiring 30 weavers and learning all about "Quality Control" and "Shipping". Thanks, David, for hosting this helpful newsletter - it is a great tool for this huge family of readers to feel close. Sincerely, Sharon Klusmann Cornerstone Baskets (Formerly Baskets By Sharon) www.SharonKlusmann.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 16 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:09:59 EDT From: LMBAUCH@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Hi! Thanks for all the wonderful suggestions re: Coffee and Tea stains. I will be printing your suggestions out to share with my classes. Such a wonderful variety of ways to achieve interesting results for your basket! (I have to admit I was looking for a 'formula' that would just roll off my tongue like pearls of wisdom! Now I have a bunch!) I plan to experiment with the tea and ammonia-in-a- bag (don't like the idea of dipping it ammonia somehow) to compare it with a dipping it the stain to see which way works for me. The dipping variety works for me when I teach classes since it's harder to send students home with a basket with a strong smell. Cass I've gotten that variation in stain from the walnut stain I make/use, not as much with the tea. Maybe it's the thickness of the stain? (Sometimes it seems almost syrupy). I do know it seems to happen when I get 'stain happy' and start staining bunches of baskets and then let them sit/hang to dry. I think I might not be getting the excess off well enough. Do you moisten your basket before staining them (like you wet reed before dyeing it?) "PS I just read Tony's post- sounds like a good explanation to me When writing the above, I had one of 'those' questions - Teaching classes in places assigned by others who don't know much about the needs of making baskets can be a real hassle or just plain strange. What's the strangest place you've had to teach? I teach at the local community college. I started in the bio labs where I had to drag all the supplies, tools, etc (I provide both tools and materials when I teach - so I know what they have!!). Then they moved me to the beautiful conference rooms in another building - Water way down the hall and beautiful carpet all around - so we went outside in the dead of winter to stain. My final 'resting place' is the mortuary science classroom!!! It's the best place on campus for teaching basket making but it does startle the students some times. (Especially in the beginning when they must have been studying the human skeleton and there was a small casket with a woman's skeleton in it! Haven't seen it since then, though and all else used in labs is locked up) It has a large wet sink, a built in stove top - great for heating dye stuff, counters to stand at for those who need to and tables to work on, black boards to write on, an easy floor to sweep up, a custodian who does the final cleanup to prepare for the next day's classes and easy access for bringing supplies and for the instructor (me!) to park! I think I'm getting kinda spoiled! Thanks again for the help Laurie from Easton PA where we've had rain on and off for a week! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Newsletter Article Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:13:43 EDT From: Wickrwoman@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Seat Weaver Obtains Minnesota Folk Arts Grant To help sustain and celebrate the state of Minnesota's valuable cultural traditions, the Minnesota State Arts Board recently awarded Folk Arts Apprenticeship Grants totaling $34,065 to twelve master/apprentice teams. Folk Arts Apprenticeship Grants help each promising apprentice to study a traditional art form with an outstanding master folk artist. By funding master/apprentice teams, the Arts Board fosters the transmission of skills by traditional means, from one folk artist to another. Master seat weaver Cathryn Peters, from Zumbro Falls, MN is the recipient of $3, 839, which will enable her to teach her apprentice, Ben Scott, from Byron, MN, traditional seat weaving techniques. Those techniques include strand chair caning, pressed cane, porch cane, paper fibre rush and natural cattail rush, reed, oak and ash splints, Danish Modern cord and cane, seagrass, and rawhide. Cathryn and Ben will work side by side in the master's studio for a total of 80 hours of classroom instruction. The folk arts include styles of music and dance, storytelling and song, and crafts such as knifemaking, rosemaling, and weaving, among others that are passed on over generations. Ms Peters' seat weaving grant proposal was unique in the fact that it was the first grant of its type ever submitted to the MN Folk Art Grant Board. The Minnesota State Arts Board helps preserve and perpetuate those traditions by offering grants to folk artists and organizations, and through public programs demonstrates the value of the folk arts. Through the teaming of Peters and Scott, the nearly lost art of traditional chair seat weaving will continue to prosper and grow. The Minnesota State Arts Board is a state agency dedicated to enriching the cultural lives of all Minnesotans. Funds for Arts Board programs are provided through an appropriation from the Minnesota State Legislature, with additional funding from the National Endowment for the Arts. The Wicker Woman/Cathryn Peters Wicker restoration specialist, basketmaker, teacher, and author. Visit my website, http://www.wickerwoman.com Subscribe to my free ezine http://wickerwoman.listbot.com/ Email Wickrwoman@aol.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Sale of Deer Antlers Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:39:10 EDT From: Wickrwoman@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Janet and All, I can't answer your question directly about selling antlers in North Carolina, but what you and everyone else should do is to contact the state Department of Natural Resources or Fish and Wildlife department and find out for yourself. Don't go by what someone "tells" you is the law, get a hard copy of the law from the Enforcement Division of the state in question. You want to be legal about all this, so why depend on hearsay? Get all your information directly from the governmental entity in writing and request a letter from the senior officer that says it is legal for you to teach baskets or sell craft antlers in their state. I was the city clerk for four years and the Mayor for two in my small town several years ago, and I know that when working with government agencies, always get it in writing! The Wicker Woman/Cathryn Peters Wicker restoration specialist, basketmaker, teacher, and author. Visit my website, http://www.wickerwoman.com Subscribe to my free ezine http://wickerwoman.listbot.com/ Email Wickrwoman@aol.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weaving Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:51:35 -0400 From: Linda Cutright To: davidc@iei.net Diane When I want to be outside and have weaving to do, I get the basket to the point where I can hold it on my lap. I do a bunch of these when I can't get out. When it is nice outside I take a bunch that use the same size weaver and weaver away, then put the rim on another time. If I am doing a Gretchen border that is saved for a favorite TV show. I still have most of the mess in one place, but can still enjoy the nice weather. I am still wondering about the Gretchen border. Was Flo Hoppe's 3" per row for a single strand or for one that she doubled and hair pinned in. Swap buddy (whoever you are???) your basket is all done except for the border and staining. Hope to finish that this weekend. Since I have to work all weekend and my kids are not coming in till the following weekend I should have time to finish. Don't you just love the anticipation of a surprise package. David have a great holiday. Everyone please remember those who died to give us our independence and those who still give to let us keep it. Linda in now sunny West Virginia %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: WW/Antlers Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:02:29 -0400 From: "mkoch" To: Hi everyone!!! To Janet H: It is illegal to sell antlers in North Carolina. The only reason I know this, is that this last year some of the vendors questioned whether they could sell them at convention. We were told that it is illegal and the answer was NO. So I can only assume it would be illegal to sell an antler basket as well. From what they said, it is illegal in several states. Where you go to check, I don't have a clue. Take care, happy weaving Dollie Koch %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Tea Stain/Walnut Stain Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:08:21 -0500 From: "Clinton County Emg. Manage. Agc." To: "David Collins" I have been reading many comments regarding tea stain. I have my tea stain in a 5-gallon bucket with a lid, purchased at Menards. The recipe is 100 tea bags, 4 gallons of ammonia. I placed the tea bags in an old nylon; let set until I thought the color was right and then removed the stocking. When it is time to "dip" my baskets, I take the solution outside as the ammonia smell is very strong, pour the contents into a round wash tub, dip the basket and hang to dry. If the basket is small enough, I just dip it right in the 5-gallon bucket. There is no residual odor whatsoever. I have had this batch of stain since I started weaving about 2 years ago. I want to make my own walnut stain next. I have read where many just use water, but I don't want the scum and nauseating odor that comes with this method. Has anyone used the ammonia method with nuts? Sandi at steamer@cis.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: (No subject) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:45:41 -0400 From: Suzanne Moore To: davidc@iei.net To Lois in Hawaii , and all basketmakers attending the NCBA convention next March in Raleigh. It will be " business as usual" at NC Basket Works in Vass, NC as we have a very capable staff to assist you at our warehouse while we are attending conventions. We welcome all weavers to browse through our warehouse and basket shop whenever you visit our beautiful state of North Carolina. We are open daily 8:30 AM - 5:00 PM and Saturdays 9:00 AM - 1.00PM. As Dee from Florida mentioned in "Weavers Words" V. 4 Iss. 15, if you are into pottery do allow time to go to Seagrove, NC to watch the potters and visit some of the many shops, which offer an enormous array of pottery at very reasonable prices. Just up the road (about 5 miles north) from Vass is Cameron, NC, a town on the National Historic Register, which has many antique shops. If time permits have lunch at Miss Belle's Tea Room or The Dewberry Deli. And for anyone who loves golf, this area with approximately 40 courses, is a Mecca for golfers. Pinehurst, NC host of the 1999 and 2005 Men's US Open is 13 miles south of Vass. Come see us. Suzanne NC Basket Works %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: WW Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:56:37 -0800 From: "moonweaver" To: davidc@iei.net Hi all, Hope everyone is doing well. I want to thank everyone who answered my copywrite question. I also think I upset some by asking it this was REAL - I've been contacted by others over the net that were not REAL - hence my question. On getting birch strips even for weaving.... I use a 4ft. level for a straight edge - then mark the bark with an awl that was special made by a friend for me I then cut each marked piece with a pair of heavy-duty shears. My strips come out even. Of course all marking is done by eye only. Have been toying with the idea of using an old paper cutter from a school.... so far haven't found one around. Well best go milk the goats and tend the garden. Best to all from sunny NE WA where it's green and growing. Chrys MoonWeaver Basketry and Fiber Arts %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Gourds for Weaving.. Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:44:42 -0500 From: Rowena Philbeck To: davidc@iei.net Hello all, Thanks so much for the response on my question about natural materials for weaving. Marianne...I checked out your gourds and I love them. I have one question. When you do the weaving do you drill the holes on the sides of the gourds or drill in the middle of the cut part on the gourds so the reed is straight up instead of bended upward. I suppose that is why you have to have a thick gourd to drill the holes. I wasn't able to get the picture of your gourd with the dreamcatcher. I will try later. I also checked out the other baskets the members have done. VERY BEAUTIFUL.... Thanks also for the tips on dyeing using nuts etc. Of course where I live in Texas I don't have much except pecans to use. I also have check on a book call "Natural Baskets" by Gillooly. Its great for letting you know the different materials you can use for baskets...wisteria, grape vines, daylilly leaves etc. It shows what they need to have done to them to begin weaving them and when to pick them. Great Info. Thanks again and I'm really enjoying this group. Rowena rowena@archone.tamu.edu http://www2.txcyber.com/~rowena/ Home Email: rowena@cy-net.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 16 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:01:02 -0500 From: Rowena Philbeck To: David Collins Another Question, When attaching the round reed to a hole in the top of a gourd for weaving...what type glue to you use? Thanks, Rowena rowena@archone.tamu.edu http://www2.txcyber.com/~rowena/ Home Email: rowena@cy-net.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Patterns Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:59:37 -0700 From: "Jan Putra" To: Hi WW readers, In response to Dianne Gleixner; those patterns that call for specialty wood pieces are for the most part trying to sell the wood parts to you also. There is nothing wrong with that but I too search for patterns that don't require anything "extra". I make both kinds (with specialty wood pieces and without) but sometimes it is certainly more challenging to work from the center of the base of a basket and work your way up. Just my thoughts on the matter. Jan Putra %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: WW/Basketcreed Tshirt Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:28:34 -0400 From: "mkoch" To: Hi everyone!!!! For those of you that are trying to order Lynn's Basketcreed Shirt through the Weaver's Stain website, It won't work...sorry... Please contact Lynn direct at: http://hometown.aol.com/bskcreed/index.html I agree the shirts are really cute, but please visit her site to order... When we were at the Missouri Convention in June, I must have seen 20+ weavers wearing this GREAT T-Shirt... Keep up the great work Lynn... Happy ordering & weaving, Dollie %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: North Carolina Basket Sites Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:38:36 -0400 From: Barbara McGeachy To: David Collins Hi, Lois: Glad you're coming to NC! In Charlotte, don't miss the Mint Museum of Craft and Design. It's downtown. Has a number of baskets and other great crafts in permanent and special displays. Barbara McGeachy Raleigh, NC %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 14 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:50:18 EDT From: Birdzoe3@cs.com To: davidc@iei.net Shirley, I have always been told to keep your head and feet cool or warm as the case may be and the rest will follow. I loved your experience at the fair. Now if I can get up the energy to get back out there and finish up. After not weaving for so long I realized what I had been missing. I started my basket in the late evening. I put on a story on tape and just went to town on my basket. It was wonderful. I guess I am back in the swing of things. Karen Awong in Honolulu %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Pine needle baskets Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:07:37 -0700 From: "Nella Johnson" To: "David Collins" David Do any of people in weavers word do pine needle basket's would like to e mail some can you put this in the new's letter. baskets@nellaspineneedlebaskts.com Thank's David %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 4 I. 16 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:14:28 -0500 From: Lynn A Montgomery To: davidc@iei.net Dear David & Weavers, Hello from Madison, Wisconsin. There are several of us (Char Braun, Stephanie Funck, Dorothy Davenport & Lynn Montgomery) basket weavers from the area that are working on starting a basket guild. We are looking for some advise from those of you that have helped start a basket guild. Any tips, hints, ideas, do's or don'ts that you could share with us would be most appreciated. Also anyone from the Madison area or the south central Wisconsin area that are interested in being members, please e-mail me privately. Thanks again to David for all his work and providing us with such a wonderful resource!! Lynn Montgomery Sun Prairie, WI (a "suburb" of Madison) Foxstone2@juno.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Kids at meetings Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:45:28 -0500 From: Kim Leppin To: davidc@iei.net Dianne and Lois, About bringing children to guild meetings... Our guild says you must be eighteen to be a member and weave because the school that we meet at has some rules about no one under eighteen taking classes there, or something about insurance. We do have people bring their children but not enough that it bothered anyone. (Not that I heard anyway) I think for the most part people only bring them when it's absolutely necessary. We have mentioned the under eighteen rule to a couple members that brought their children to weave but then a couple months later you have to tell the same people all over again. Kim in SE Wisconsin wishing lots of motivation to Dianne!!!! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Hickory Stain Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:12:29 -0500 From: "Barbara Byrne" To: Hi all, Thanks so much to those of you who responded to my question about hickory stain. Now I'll be impatiently awaiting a new crop of nuts from the tree so that I can experiment! Too bad I can't use all those dried nuts that are "hanging around" at the base of the tree. But I'm excited at the prospect of working with some natural dye. I've not done that before. Thanks again for all your help. I truly appreciate it! Barb in Vienna, MO Barb Byrne Come see what a RELAXING GETAWAY can be!! Gasconade Nature Retreat & Getaway www.nature-retreat.com byrne@socket.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Swap #9 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:21:09 -0500 From: "Adamczak, Shirley" To: "'Davidc@iei.net'" I received a beautiful twill storage basket yesterday from Ruth Shroyer of Columbus, Indiana. It's a 2/2 twill with navy accents, one of my favorite basket colors. This is my second swap and it is so neat! Now I need to get busy and finish the basket for my swap partner. Shirley in Hermantown, Minnesota, where summer has finally arrived, sort of! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Canada Geese Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:07:37 EDT From: ZOHE@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Dear Weavers, I would love to hear from people who have woven Canada geese from my pattern and how well they did. Are you pleased with them, did you weave companions, are they beautiful, do you sell them? Do they look funny? I had planned to write to you all by email after a year and kept a record of everyone's address in my computer. Then one day when I went to open the information there was just some data about windmills from one of my husband's files and all the goose stuff had vanished! We have to enroll in a basic computer course at the local old people's center. Anyway, please write. I am giving my annual Canada Goose workshop here in Northern Virginia on the following dates: August 12, August 13, September 2, September 3. Choose any two days of the four dates. Free lodging for out-of-towners. Classes limited to eight. If room, repeat goose students may come and pay for materials only. Enquire by email. Angelique, thanks for that very interesting website you sent us for Native Tech. May you all enjoy the so-called "lazy days" of summer. 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