"Weavers Words" Vol. 3 Iss. 66 Date Sent: November 10, 1999 Web Page: http://www.iei.net/~davidc/ Subscribers: 1244 David Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 Phone: (317) 899-5747 Fax: (520) 222-0391 davidc@iei.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Do You Like Weavers Words? Click Below To "Recommend-It" To A Friend! http://recommend-it.com/l.z.e?s=210339 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% The Basket Bookstore Stop by "Weavers Words Basketry Bookstore" for a great selection of basketry literature & save up to 40%. Over 40 titles to choose from. The address is: http://www.iei.net/~davidc/book.html %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Attention New Subscribers You can search Weaver's Words web page and back issues by going to Weaver's Words web page (http://www.iei.net/~davidc/) and entering your search criteria into the PinPoint search box. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Attention AOL Subscribers For some reason some AOL subscribers haven't been receiving Weaver's Words through email. If you are one of these subscribers, or know one of someone who has not been receiving Weaver's Words, you can get all of the issues on the Weaver's Words web page. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Convention! Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 22:06:10 EST From: Frbasketsc@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Hello to all conventioneers, and those who could not make it, (we missed you:( WOW that is almost all I have to say. Can't talk to long my family wants my attention. But had to say what a great time I have this past weekend. It was so wonderful to meet WW subscribers. They where the nicest people there and since I was by my self I really enjoyed there company. I would like to thank the Crossroads Guild for the invite to the banquet. I have a picture of some of the members that I will send in to the pictures on this site (hopefully I will get that done in a day or two). I would also like to thank Kay Janke and Vicki from NV. It was great meeting them and all the others, I also have pictures of baskets lots of baskets so please look for them in the near future. Well, like I said my son is pulling my leg (physically:) TTYL A Friend in weaving, Carolyn %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Basket Pix, etc. Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 02:44:41 -0500 (EST) From: mdcamcd@ix.netcom.com To: davidc@iei.net To Sheila, who was looking for baskets logos: check out our very own WW home page! David has collected some wonderful drawings, photos and wallpapers for us to use that would be great for flyers, newsletters, etc. There are hundreds of them in lots of different styles. I have downloaded a bunch of them to make myself a basket T-shirt. I enlarged them a bit and arranged them on several pages to print out on transfer paper. Then it's just a matter of printing, cutting them out, and ironing them onto the shirt. Rather than using one large image centered on the front of the shirt, I'm using lots of smaller ones and scattering them around all over it. Much easier to use smaller images (can avoid the iron holes that way!) and I think more attractive. My very own unique 'basketcase' shirt! Thanks to David for taking the time and effort to find and provide them to us!! On the rim tool question: I use exacto type knives. My darling husband bought me a nice set in a travel case for my birthday. I also sometimes use the cheapy kind with the snap-off disposable blades. Haven't tried the Stanley Surform, but I hear a lot of people swear by it. Cass McDonald, in sunny and surprisingly warm Maryland, where I just collected the last of my loofah gourds and tore down the vines that had taken over the whole garden! Time to till... %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Rim Scarfing Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 05:43:54 -0600 From: "Frederick A. Kogler" Organization: All About Baskets To: David Collins References: 1 David and Others, About getting the perfect match with the rim overlays question and the best tool to use... I have devised a simple table top vise with which I hold material and then I use a draw knife to taper the matching edges. It works well for me and I recommend others try it. Thanks again to all of you for the ideas, suggestions etc. Fred "All About Baskets" -- Rev. Frederick A. Kogler, 1637 Allen Ct. West St. Paul, MN 55118-3802 651-450-4857 fkogler@concentric.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Basket Swap? Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:48:46 EST From: KSLERB@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Good morning! I so thoroughly enjoyed the last basket swap and have read several others asking when the next one will be. Is there going to be a basket swap before Christmas? Just wondering.... Sue in crazy-hot-one-day-cold-the-next Webster Groves, MO %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weaver's Words Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:55:19 -0500 From: "Joy Moody" To: Hi everyone. Just a brief word on copyrights. I'm not a copyright attorney, but I have read quite a bit & you should too! There's an U.S. Patent, Copyright & Trademark web site that even gives you access to the wording of the laws. First, a work does NOT have to state "copyright" on it to be covered. So, forget that excuse when you think you want to copy something because it will save you time or money. There are more extensive rights, which extend to those who've formally filed copyright forms, but those who haven't are still given protection. This is also true of trademarks. It is also true if something is "out of print" (OOP does not mean out of copyright protection!).On the question of making a basket from a copyrighted pattern & selling it: We've discussed this in past issues (try David's search function) - this is NOT a copyright infringement. The written words & printed pictures of the pattern are what's copyrighted, not the right to make or sell it. I hear that there may be some changes in the law in days to come - artist's and craftsperson's may be given more protections. I think this has come about because of all the cheap foreign knock off's that are coming into the market. A good source for up-to-date information on changes in the law for artist's and craftsmen is The Craft Report. Joy Moody http://www.signofthecrow.com Hampden, Maine %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 08:30:40 -0500 From: "Ingram" To: Since this place is a constant source for all types of info, I am wondering if we have any members who live in the Greenville-Spartanburg area of South Carolina, preferably near Glassy Mountain. I ask for information purposes only, as my sister and her husband are considering retiring to the area and are seeking some "local input" on the area. If anyone can be of assistance, please e-mail me. Thanks lots! Leigh %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Bits and Pieces Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 08:44:09 -0500 From: John Dorris To: "Weavers Words" First of all of about basket shops etc. in the Hampton/Newport News area. There are none. However Hampton University has a huge collection of Native American Baskets. At one time they were an Indian school. Our guild took a tour there during the summer (I didn't get to go) and everyone said it was wonderful. Grace and Forrest!! Nice to hear from you again. Where have you been? Trust me folks everything in a magazine it copyrighted whether it says so or not. We had a "riotous" guild meeting yesterday. A couple of people were going to teach the others how to make the stars, snowflakes, reindeers etc. They discovered that something two people can do in 20 minutes takes 15 people 2 days. The reindeer was our downfall. Although we followed the directions it never worked. And they had laughed at the attempts I had made on my own. I knew something was wrong but I didn't know what. I had made it twice with the same results. Now they know why that every time I teach this group I say never again. A couple of members had brought their teenage daughters and I think the girls were "astounded" by the way we acted. It was definitely" roll your eyes and sigh loudly" time. What they really discovered was a case of do what I say not what I do. If they acted the same way in school the parents would kill them. But we did have a good time. The meetings are basically the only time most of us see one another so we do tend to socialize a bit. Back to work. Need to be exercising or weaving and can't get enthused for either. Billie %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Craft Show Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:51:44 -0600 From: "Bunga & Bunka" To: "David Collins" Well, I've learned my lesson! I wove several "angels" in three sizes, several candle holders, wastebaskets, both large and small, and never sold one! I realize it is my location, but you would think I would have sold one! My family will get what I have done and I won't fall into that trap again, at least not while I live here! I read how some of you sell many things at your shows and I thought I would give it a try. I will continue to weave because I love doing it, but they will be gifts to family and friends. Told DH yesterday, I've liquidated! Sandi %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Good Morning Everyone Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 07:25:36 -1000 From: Joanne Howard To: "Collins, David" Aloha, It is a beautiful breezy day, a little cloudy but that is ok by me. It feels a little like our winter is creeping up. Can anyone explain how to use the Shurfoam shaver? I would like to know the differences between that and the Stanley plane. I had an interesting lesson yesterday on making wood bases. It is tedious work. I admire those that do their own. It must be very rewarding to get the job done. The monetary investment alone in power tools is enough to make you think twice before you do this at home. Interesting though... I made a few Judy Richmond wood base baskets this week from her pattern book. I did the Bread machine basket without handles and it is too cute for words. I also did the Noah's Ark basket. I had never used a Williamsburg handle before and found it a little challenging. I got a little confused with all the chase weaving as the pattern doesn't really give you any indication as to when you should start pulling in to make your spokes stand up straight. At first I just followed the shape of the handle, but by the time I got to the 1/2-inch weavers, they started to buckle around the corners. I ended up ripping out the weavers and making them looser so the basket really bowed out. Lois gave me some instruction over the phone and with some patience I got the basket done. I would be interested to hear from anyone who has done this basket with helpful hints as I want to do it again sometime. It is a cutie!!!! I am sending it to a friend that just had twin babies. I know (and hope!!) she will love it. Thanks for such a cute pattern Judy! I went to a craft show this past weekend on our Air Force base. It is their biggie of the fall season. Lois did an awesome job on her baskets. They are always neat and clean with beautiful color. She always displays them so sweetly and with such style. Congrats Lois, you did a great showing again!! To the other weavers, your work was very nice. I commend you all for having the courage to put yourself out there! I would be a complete wreck. Sometimes people can be so negative and nasty. It amazes me the comments that people make right in front of you , as if you can't hear them!!! Great job to everyone. The fair was really nice this year. Well I am off to clean the weaving room as it looks like the reed has given birth overnight!! Oh one last comment. I LOVE WEAVERS STAIN!!!!!!!!!!! Aloha, Joanne %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 3 I. 65 Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 18:00:17 EST From: PBWEAVE@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Bob, I sell wholesale to galleries. I make an inventory list and the gallery owner selects the baskets. The inventory list has my selling price and also a consignment price. I rarely consign but will for 60/40 or 70/30 and I expect the baskets to sell quickly. Galleries buy at 1/2 my inventory list price. E mail me if you would like more information. Peggy in Edmond, OK %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: aloha/soapmaking/insurance questions Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 09:29:34 -1000 From: The Keener Clan To: davidc@iei.net Aloha from sorta sunny Hawaii, I did my last fair of the season last Sat and it was a great one, but I*m glad it is over. I have classes through the 15th of December and then I*ll have 3 weeks off and then it will start all over again. A question/observation about craft fairs (and about a couple of weavers on this page).... I*m always looking for something different to experiment with and I*ve wanted to try soap making for a long time. At a fair a few weeks ago, I bought glycerin soaps and bath crystals from a vendor and absolutely love that glycerin soap. So yesterday, I went to Borders Books and Music and spent the rainy afternoon browsing (and spending a sizeable chunk of basket earnings, but books are my passion) and found several books on soap making. (However, they are not in the crafts section, but in the "appearance" section--go figure) I looked through several and bought 3 and when I brought them home and thumbed through them, the last one ("The Soap maker*s Companion by Susan Cavtich), gave me a real learning experience. I was envisioning a basket full of fragrant lemon soap in a small basket at my next fair, but that isn*t going to happen. According to the book, anyone who sells soaps needs plenty of insurance. What if your soap injures someone who uses it? Who will pay your legal fees? If you make it in your home and sell now and then, you are probably covered by your homeowners policy, but if it a part of or entirely your business, it probably isn*t. There are no riders (she says) in homeowners insurance that cover risks of operating a home business. Second, if you make soap for your own use, you are okay, but if you sell it, you now fall under the FDA and FTC. If you mislabel your soap, it becomes a cosmetic (you can*t say it is "moisturizing" for example) and that is a different ball of wax. If you sell soap, it must be labeled with all ingredients listed, weight of the soap, name and address. I noticed that the soap I bought didn*t include anything except the company name... So I*m wondering a couple of things. The weavers who are selling soaps..do you have such insurance? Do you follow FDA guidelines? Do you have any fears of being sued? I mean, if the soap works fine on your skin, but causes a nasty rash on someone else, are you prepared to be sued? As basket makers, do you have insurance for your business? I remember on Shirley*s list someone said a woman had tripped over a tent stake at a fair and sued the basket maker. What sort of insurance is it? I*m still going to give soap making a try, but don*t think I will sell it or even give it away... The last fair was great, but I*m thinking of making a sign that says "No, I don*t bargain".....anyone have a snappy comeback for this? My husband tells them the basket was worth $30 when we unpacked it that morning and it is still worth $30...but I*d like to hang a sign someplace. Aloha, Lois %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 3 I. 65 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:36:07 -0800 From: martyhln@juno.com To: davidc@iei.net Hi David and World Basket makers, Well AMB is history now, and I am not completely over the running, and not a lot of sleep, but it was a lot of fun. I come home with 3 completed baskets, YEAH!!! what a surprise. I did Jackie Abrams painting on watercolor paper, then made a basket and enough to make 3 more with what is left over. If you are creative, it is a swell class. I did Patti Hawkins play in ash, a great little twill basket done over an unusual mold, great fun. And then I did Dianne Stanton's elm bar, Dianne has a great dry since of humor, that a lot of people mistake, tome she was a blast. I loved all my teachers and got to play with diverse materials, what more can you ask for. On top of that I saw a lot of basket friends, and met a lot of new faces, who are now my new friends. I love them all. I also saw many red ribbons, some chose not to wear them, maybe afraid to be recognized? Oh well I enjoyed everyone who said hi tome thanks. I hope everyone had as much fun as I did. I just wanted to report on the fun things. Oh yes there were lots of bargains and as usual I spent too much money. Oh well that is what it is for RIGHT? Agree with me this time, please. I send my love. Warmest Regards---Marty Holihan---Flint, Michigan---e-mail---martyhln@juno.com---or---dholihan@gfn.org %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: WW/Great time at AMB Convention Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:48:09 -0500 From: "mkoch" To: Hi everyone!!!! We just arrived home from the AMB Convention in Traverse City. We had a great time!!!! Hats off to all the gals that worked so hard to pull everything together!!!!! We really enjoyed seeing all of our friends and meeting new ones. Hope everyone had a safe and uneventful trip home. For those that did not get to attend, next year it will be in Grand Rapids, try not to miss it. Visitor's day is a great way to come and get exposure to everything that you normally wouldn't see on a regular basis. Plymouth Reed & Cane had this really nifty engraving machine that makes these nice "handwoven by" plaques that are approx. 1/2" x 1 1/2". Marilyn Wald/XYZ Baskets had the "too cutest" basket embellishments. You really have to see them to appreciate them. Susan Reed Fanfoni was there with her fantastic patterns and accessories. Willowe's Basketry had the greatest pattern for "The serving basket". It is a round basket with a wood base that has a heavy-duty plastic insert that's divided (6 to 8 sections) along with a plastic bowl for dip. Also they have a great ......well you should have been there. Call them for a list of their new things!!!!! Bonnie Gale has a new "cheese basket" with a lid. Very nice!!!!! Jim & Diane Langston were there with NEW ideas. Wait 'til you see their new lamps.... Absolutely everything was New and wonderful. Very talented couple!!!! NC Basket Works had some really great new things, you can always count onthem for a top quality selection!!!! Royalwood had a GREAT Book sale on Thursday!!!!!!! Their beads are wonderful!!! Have any of you ever seen Jim Rutherford's snazyyyy "basket gift wrap"? Great for Xmas or any time of year and extremely reasonable!!!!!! Jim's basket classes are extremely popular!!!! Bill Dunning was there with his beautiful handles!!!!!! The NorEsta girls were very busy!!!!! And having a good time to boot!!! Just Patterns is under new ownership. Sheri is super!!!! justpatterns.com It was the best time!!!!!! I'd give all of these suppliers a call for a list of their new things!!!!!! Wish you could have been there. For those of you that asked about our next FREE PATTERN, David will add it to our site in the next week or so. It will be a Xmas Drum ornament. Some of you may have received it as a door prize....:) A Big Thank You to all of the gals that had us stain their class baskets and share tips at the same time. It appeared that they all went home happy!!! Mark's trigger finger was wore out!!!! :) By the way: Be sure to get your information regarding the "Basket Bash2000". Plans are underway for the weekend of April 7, 8 and 9th, 2000. Located at The Fowler Center in Michigan's Thumb area. Contact Ruthanne Morningstar, POB 524, Almont, MI 48003, mstar@mich.com We hope to see everyone at the NCBA & IBA conventions coming up in March2000. Talk to everyone later!!!! Mark & Dollie Koch The Weavery, Home of Weaver's Stain %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Birch Strip Baskets Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:41:09 -0500 (EST) From: Laurie J Smith To: davidc@iei.net Hello Weavers, I am in the middle of the Christmas panic, relatives wanting baskets to give as gifts, and me wanting to make baskets for gifts, and I received a question that I don't have a clue about, so I thought I would ask you all about it. A person who stopped by my table at a Harvest Festival wanted to know if I make, or know where he can get, a woven Birch strip basket. He says that they are made without metal fasteners and are quite durable. The size he is looking for is called an apple basket. He says he is looking for an old or new basket, and he currently has one woven by a fifth generation basket weaver from Maine. He likes the traditional way of making things. Can anyone help?? Thanks for any information, Laurie Smith in (currently) sunny Western Massachusetts %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weaver's words Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:15:37 EST From: VecoGoller@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Hello, I'm on a search for a basket shaped as a sleigh to hold dinner rolls at a Holiday party I'm given. Do you have anything like this? Thanks Cheryl %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Urgent Request Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:14:36 -0500 From: "Susan Tripp" To: "David Collins" I need a small sleigh basket for a customer that is holding a dinner party on 12/18 and she wants to put dinner rolls in it. Can someone who can make one of these baskets soon e-mail me with a pic. and price? Thanks. Susan, NY %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 3 I. 61 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:52:39 -0600 From: Roberta R Comstock To: davidc@iei.net "Weavers Words" Vol. 3 Iss. 61 The 6th WW swap is over. Many Thanks to everyone who took the time to follow instructions and report when their baskets were sent and received! I did eventually get reports of all baskets being sent out. Although I am still missing 3 reports of baskets received, I have not heard otherwise from those recipients and have concluded that their baskets did arrive, although I know that some of them were rather late. There really are legitimate reasons for delays, folks. All in all, it was a pleasure to work with the 116 of you who took part in the swap. And I thank you also for being so appreciative of my work! I can't remember if I reported on the baskets I received in this swap, so please forgive me if this is duplicate information. Linda Carson, of Ames, IA, made two baskets for me! The first is an amulet pouch necklace in tapestry woven of waxed linen on yellow cedar stakes. The colors and design are excellent and she included a polished stone amulet inside (Carnelian, I think). I wore this basket at the HGA Basketry Conference in Gatlinburg, TN, & got lots of compliments on it. Linda learned this basket from Karen Mitchell. The second basket is a tiny wickerwork round reed basket filled with dried statice blossoms from Linda's garden. I display it in my glass curio cabinet by using a jade finger ring for a stand. Thanks again, Linda! Bren Miller - Sorry to be so slow getting an answer back to you about basket swaps on Weavers Words. (By the way, David runs the list for us, but doesn't provide answers to basketry questions.) The first WW basket swap was run by Joy Moody in August of 1998. There have been six altogether. The other coordinators were Gail Caron, Jan Hardt, Sue Bajczyk, Pam Feix, and, most recently, me (Bert Comstock). I surveyed participants and put together a list of future coordinators. I have emailed the first 2 people on that list to find out which of them might be interested in doing the 7th WW swap and have time to take it on. Once there is a definite decision about who will do it, the new coordinator will make an announcement in WW telling everyone when and how to sign up and when the baskets must be woven and sent. The rules vary somewhat from swap to swap, depending on who is coordinating the effort. Generally they are blind swaps - you weave for one person and receive from another. Names are not made public until the baskets are sent. My guideline for what to weave was to weave a basket that you would be glad to receive. It's a lot of fun! Penny Palkovic - Your raffia will be stronger if you twist it into cordage before you try to use it for Teneriffe stitchery. You can also do Teneriffe with waxed linen thread, silk buttonhole twist, or crochet cotton. Sallie Moore - Randing is continuous simple over one, under one weaving. The term is usually used for round materials such as round reed, vine, willow, or other rods. Bert Comstock in sunny Independence, MO, where it's still Indian Summer! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 3 I. 62 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:54:08 -0600 From: Roberta R Comstock To: davidc@iei.net "Weavers Words" Vol. 3 Iss. 62 Kay Janke - Hope you and your husband are feeling well these days. Please let us know how the WW meeting(s) at convention came out. Juanita Gulden - Seminar East in NC sounds as if it was a great time. What baskets did you make? Who taught your classes? Anne Kelly - White oak is best worked fresh, which is why you keep seeing the 'find a good tree' instruction. Pre-processed splints are rather hard to find and tend to be pretty expensive. Try to get had split ones, not machined splints. The machined ones cross the grain and are not nearly as strong or workable. Good luck. Bert Comstock Independence, MO %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 3 I. 64 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:14:58 -0600 From: Roberta R Comstock To: davidc@iei.net "Weavers Words" Vol. 3 Iss. 64 Regarding rim scarfing tools: My favorite way to do this is on a shavehorse with a draw knife. Unfortunately, I haven't gotten my shave horse built yet, so don't get to use this method as often as I hope to in the future. I found a source for a shavehorse pattern while web surfing at Susi Nuss' basketry.about.com site. Go to the Tools category on her homepage. Meanwhile, depending on the material I'm using, I either shave with a Sure-Form tool (the small one which is sort of like a 'wood grater') or a sharp knife. If working on your knee/thigh with a knife to scrape splints or scarf rims, it's a good idea to pad the area with a folded old towel or a piece of leather. Pam Feix (& others) - Depending on what kind of baskets you want to line, you might consider checking for flower pot/box liners at a garden shop. I sometimes save plastic containers such as large vitamin jars, which can be used as mold and liner for a basket. There are also a number of plastic storage containers on the market that could have baskets woven around them. Mary McKinzie - I don't have specific basket shop info for the Newport News, VA, area, but it's really close to historic Williamsburg, Yorktown, and Jamestown. There may be a basket shop at Williamsburg. Bert Comstock Independence, MO %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% If for any you would ever like to cancel your subscription, simply send me a message with "unsubscribe" as your subject.