"Weavers Words" Vol. 3 Iss. 109 Date Sent: February 26, 2000 Web Page: http://members.xoom.com/dgcollins/ Subscribers: 1326 David Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 Phone: (317) 899-5747 Fax: (520) 222-0391 davidc@iei.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Do You Like Weavers Words? Click Below To "Recommend-It" To A Friend! http://recommend-it.com/l.z.e?s=210339 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% The Basket Bookstore Stop by "Weavers Words Basketry Bookstore" for a great selection of basketry literature & save up to 40%. Over 40 titles to choose from. 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Date: 25 Feb 2000 03:16:21 -0000 From: "J. Choate Basketry List" To: List Member J. Choate Basketry List - http://www.corecom.net/~choatepp Cabin fever happens to a lot of us in the far north. When old Sol finally returns and beams through the windows most Alaskans want to get outside. The weather has cooled down a bit, which makes for perfect traveling by dog team. The only thing that has currently been in our way is a steady stream of moose. A perfect chilly morning with a five dog hitch we barreled out of the dog lot and 50 yards down the trail we were convinced by a Lord of the Forest that this was not the correct path to take. Turning tail we went back home and tried to take the driveway to the trail. Yet still another moose awaited us before we got to the neighbors. Since then every morning we have had a visiting moose in the driveway. First Lucy Moosey came to munch and then nap. Today a grumpy cousin showed up with ears flattened and hackles up. We've begun to think that we have created Moose Alley here. Well, there's just no sense arguing with moose. They own the place and we are just the visitors here. So, off we carted our team with the dog truck to Pirate Lake to haul cargo out for Mom's visit. Even though Mt. McKinley was hidden from view today it was a wonderful trip. Twenty-four miles of wilderness with just you and your six best dog buddies surrounded by the best that Alaska can show you makes for a great day in the bush. You can be the next person in the sled next March. The Alaskan Bush Basketry Retreat will happen the first Saturday in March and end the following Friday. If your interested in obtaining information let me know and I'll send it your way. If you need an Alaska fix before then I can always send you a videotape of the Antler Wall Pocket. Until after the mother/daughter adventure ends..... Jill Choate Talkeetna, Alaska %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 3 I. 108 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:26:06 EST From: KSLERB@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net << Weekend and my husband brought down a lovely heart basket that I received from my basket swap partner, Sue Erb from Webster Grove, MO. >> Okay, now I'm in tears! What a sweet lady Sharon is! She got her basket LATE, and it was definitely a beginner basket. After I joined the swap I experienced one of the most stressful times of my life. I had to email Sharon and let her know of the delay, and she was so kind and understanding. I am going to make it up to her when my life slows down a little bit, but just wanted to thank her for being so very gracious. I am glad for Weaver's Words for many reasons, but getting to know people like Sharon is the best. Thanks!!!! Sue %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 3 I. 108 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:16:51 -0500 From: Pamela Woodbury To: David Collins References: 1 Hi Weavers, I have been doing shows for 13 years with baskets and 15 years in total. I too loved using the portable-shelving units. My husbands had made me several slatted and hinged panels and I could set them up anyway and use any length boards I wanted. It worked great, was portable and you really could see the baskets. Well I cannot tell you how many times I caught little old ladies leaning on this set up as if it was a wall. I am not demeaning little old ladies I am just stating the fact that they are the ones that I caught leaning on my shelving units. I cannot tell you how many times I jumped up in panic and yelled please don't lean on that or you will tip it over. Finally I gave up. I now use tables. I can't set up as effectively or in my opinion it doesn't look as nice, but it is safe. I take tables and crates and stack the crates on the tables and then put boards across the tables. Another advantage to the tables is that I can have excess inventory stored under the tables. I am alone at most of my shows so having extra inventory stored right with me is necessary. Another thing I do now is store all my baskets in big Rubbermaid containers. Some of these containers are 50-gallon size and they will hold very large baskets. I originally put my baskets in big plastic garbage bags, but this smashed baskets eventually. In the big containers not only do the baskets never get smashed but I have a cart that I can stack several containers on and just wheel it to my space. This set up has saved me countless trips as I can get a lot more in a big container than in a garbage bag so can bring a lot more in at onetime that carrying a garbage bag in each hand. Pam %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Complaining Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:30:16 -0600 From: "Kim" To: Hello Weavers, Guess I'll put in my 2 cents about the complaining topic. It is my belief that everyone has the right to voice their opinion, good, bad, or indifferent. Doesn't matter if I agree with them or they agree with me. I personally don't live in a make believe world where each day goes by with only happy thoughts and deeds. There IS controversy, no matter what the subject. What I find amazing is people who write in to complain about the complaining! he he. I don't see the difference. If I don't want to read a post, whether it's boring, provoking, un-interesting, then I simply scroll past it. I find it amusing to read the posts where a person complains about complaints. Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black. The other 2 cents I'd like to discuss is the swap. I have participated in swaps at conventions before although not here on WW's. I was never thrilled with the baskets I received; HOWEVER, I always took the time to thank the person. I will say that the baskets I received were well woven, and a lot of time had been put into them, they just weren't my style. As I read about how many people here on this site don't even bother to thank the sender, it saddens me. It also makes me wonder if it isn't those same people who complain about the complaints that aren't thanking their basket buddy??? As for baskets being late. It's really hard for me to imagine a legitimate excuse. The person on the receiving end is anxiously awaiting a basket, probably looking for the mailman every day with anticipation. I do understand that emergencies come up, but the world doesn't end, and responsibilities don't quit. I feel quite sure that if a true emergency came up, that a person would have 3 minutes in the day to log on to the net and notify the coordinator that she/he has an emergency and their basket would be late. The other thing is, if you know you are going to participate in a swap, why wait till the last minute to weave your basket ... just INCASE an emergency does come up? Why not weave it as soon as you can? Makes sense to me. Kim in Missouri %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weaver's Words Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:15:32 -0500 From: "Joy Moody" To: Greeting from North Central Maine where it is melting down to the ice beneath. I'm too busy to post often any more, but I've been following along. With all the recent Swap comments, I thought I'd pop in, as I started the swaps on WW. I think the primary thing learned by the first coordinators was that there's a lot of work to coordinating. There are no "set in granite" rules. In my mind, because the volunteer coordinator gets to do all the work, they get to set the rules for their particular swap. The primary idea behind the swaps was FUN - with the focus on enjoying the ARTOF BASKETMAKING & presumably enjoying the idea of weaving a basket for someone else. The first swap had a dollar limit on supplies, and there was a reason for that: With a limited investment, the maximum number of people could join in. I personally think that, while it is very nice that some people fill the basket with goodies, some people have felt uncomfortable with this, and I think the dollar investment is why. While everyone loves to receive a basket like this, not everyone can afford to buy all the inserts on top of the basketry supplies. A big flowery, publicly posted Thank You is not a requirement, but an acknowledgement is basic courtesy & what each of us would like to receive. As far as public castigation is concerned: please use David's SEARCH feature to see the many & long discussions of the past. It's simple: When you sign up for a swap you make a commitment. If you can't make the commitment according to the then-posted rules, wait till when you feel you can. When you join, you agree to be a responsible swap participant. There are few, if any, circumstances that block one from sending a brief note to the coordinator or swap partner. Above all: ENJOY WEAVING YOUR SWAP BASKET. Sharon: Thank you for your refreshing post about how weaving from your patterns doesn't constitute copying. Here too, David's SEARCH feature will call up much discussion & postings about patent & copyright law. For those interested/concerned, do check it out! So many people seem to develop erroneous impressions about what is & is not legal. There are not really that many rights afforded to pattern writers. The printed words/pictures/drawings are copy protected, NOT the basket design, unless a design patent is also approved. Carolyn, I use the professional version of Photoshop. Your software may be different. In Photoshop you click IMAGE, IMAGE SIZE, then change the number of pixels, either height or width, and the program automatically adjusts the second dimension proportionally. You can also adjust image contrast, brightness etc. Lisha: I enjoyed your post. Do you do the League of New Hampshire Craftsmen show in Sunapee? When I lived in New Hampshire I used to love that summer show; wish we had something as nice (& purely art focused) in Maine. Joy Moody Sign of the Crow http://www.signofthecrow.com/basketgalleryintro.html %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: thanks! Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:41:48 -0500 From: "Ingram" To: Hello everyone! A special thanks to everyone who responded to my request about the basket from Portugal. I received many suggestions about type and style of weaving, as well as some other references to try. I have responded to each of them and hope to have some answers soon. Thanks to Mary Hooper, I've even written to a museum in New York that specializes in Hispanic pieces! I'll let you know what I find out. As for shelving options, I also use wooden ladders for display. They are so adaptable for whatever size basket or area that you have, that I find them great to use. Thanks to Susan Reed-Fanfoni for the woodcrafters site reference. They have some neat display ideas that are priced pretty reasonably. And as for the swap goodies in baskets, I say do whatever floats your boat. Sometimes I put in lots of goodies, sometimes I don't. The whole point is the enjoyment we both give and get from participating--so lets not dampen the fun by dividing the group. I do have one question regarding the swap-personally, I have always wanted to receive a basket from someone who does pine needle or antler baskets, as that is something I can't do, but really appreciate. Would there be any way to work out swap matches so that if we'd like to receive types of baskets we don't normally make, and send to persons who also make different kinds than us, then could that work???? Probably not, since even put it in question form was confusing!!! Just a thought.... Keep on weavin! Leigh In Laurinburg where it's almost 80 degrees today!! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: signing baskets Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:59:47 -0500 From: nancy brandt To: Weavers words Hello everyone, It is beautiful here in Balto. Md. I have all windows open!! To Sharon K., For whitewashing: to you mean acrylic paint from the paint store or something from a craft store-- to add water to -to make whitewash? Is there any difference or just price or larger sizes of paint from the paint store? How would it look sprayed over stain? Good way to brighten up a basket that I am not too fond of? Signing our baskets: What kind of a tool or pen to use to sign.? I need something permanent, of course. When in Fla. recently, - at a show either in Naples or Sarasota, I saw baskets that were signed inside the handle just above the rim. Lovely. Nice handwriting -something with a very narrow point. Made me realize that I need to mark mine in a better way. What pens or tools do you-all use? Nancy in Glen Arm, Md. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Devil Claws Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:08:11 -0600 (CST) From: catslapbaskets@webtv.net (Russell / K.L. Mitchell) To: davidc@iei.net HI Everyone, David, as always, thanks so much for all you do for us!! Re: Devil Claws I don't think this site has been mentioned (is so pardon the repeat of info) http://daphne.palomar.edu/wayne/ww0801.htm Lots of information and pictures. I came across this site while on eBAY, YES, you can find just about everything on eBAY. (If you want to find the auctions just search for "devil claw") There is someone who sells Devil Claws and seeds for growing the plants. I attempted growing them in MN and had marginal success; they need lots of hot sun and a longer growing season than we have here in MN so I started the plants under lights. Speaking of eBAY I recently was the only bidder on a self published book by Sandy Webster called "A HANDBOOK (naturally) TO BASKETRY", on the cover of this little gem is a picture of Sandy in a hot tub with "naturals" gathered around her!! It is a nice little book with instructions, pictures and recipes. It also mentions 2 other books but no address or contact information. If anyone knows Sandy Webster and has an address I would love to be able to contact her. To any who are interested, the Iowa Basket Weavers Guild meeting is going to be held in DeWitt Iowa on April 15th a Saturday. The meeting and a sleep over gathering on the 14th (Friday night) is being hosted by the Quad Cities Basket Guild. If you need further information contact me and I will clue you in! Just recently got a computer and I am learning how to use the scanner and digital camera that came with it! Look out David, I might be sending you lots of pictures! Happy Weaving to everyone! Karen from Mpls Mn where it is foggy rainy and warm!! And that is great!!! http://community.webtv.net/catslapbaskets/doc %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Hi everyone Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:06:44 -0600 From: "Clinton County Emg. Manage. Agc." To: "David Collins" Sorry I haven't gotten back to whomever it was that wanted to know what I used for whitewash. Was off work with surgery and just didn't feel like the Internet. Things are fairly back to normal now. For whitewash on the basket I sent for the swap I used acrylic paint thinned waaaay down with water. I put it in an old dishpan and "rolled" my basket in it. I have done this numerous times and it works out great. Not a real heavy paint, and it gets in all the areas. Next, how do I receive information on the MO. convention? Sounds like it would be something I could do, if I have enough notice to schedule vacation. I just took two classes with Patty Hawkins, and what fun they were. I feel honored to have met her, let alone taken a couple of classes on twill weaving. She is excellent, and I look forward to the next time. David, I really enjoy WW, even if I do get behind sometimes. I love the swaps, and hope they continue. I am really not a very experienced weaver, but learning it what it is all about! Sandi Carstensen at steamer@cis.net mailto:ccema@clinton.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re:Antler Classes Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:14:12 -0500 From: "Angie Wagner" To: "David" Just wanted to let everyone know that we've added a 4th class with Jill Choate on Monday July 3rd. All of the information is posted on our Info page - http://www.countryseat.com/info.htm#Sec9 . Love the warmer weather in PA Angie The Country Seat http://www.countryseat.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 3 I. 107 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:17:06 -0600 From: Roberta R Comstock To: davidc@iei.net "Weavers Words" Vol. 3 Iss. 107 Deleana Adams - You have made some good suggestions about effective swapping, but being new to WW you are, naturally, unaware of how explicit and complete the directions and rules for swap participation have become. There is no way a coordinator can MAKE the participants read the instructions, let alone follow them explicitly! Our only clout comes from the policy that if a person does not satisfy the requirements of the swap, they may be banned from future swaps. Most of the difficulties have been relatively minor and have not been publicized. The very shortlist of who is excluded from swapping is passed from one coordinator to the next, but has not been posted on WW. In the past, sending a thank-you to the weaver has been strongly encouraged, but failure to do so has not resulted in banning from future swaps. Perhaps a future coordinator will feel that is necessary. I suggest that people, who find they can't be bothered with the common courtesy of thanking the weaver of the basket they receive, should not enter a swap in the first place. Jill - I bought Billie Ruth Sudduth's book at the MO convention last June. Unless she has yet another one out. Bert Comstock %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Valerie! Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 15:26:31 EST From: Frbasketsc@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Hi Valerie, You don't know me, but I saw the basket pictures you added and they are excellent. WOW they are beautiful all of them. You must have the patience of a saint, you do wonderful work. How can I get a copy of the flat rib basket pattern? Do you sell the baskets you make? A Friend in weaving, Carolyn %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Stain/Antique Appearance Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:03:53 -0500 From: "Joe Conroy" Reply-To: "Joe Conroy" <@ids.net> To: "David Collins" References: 1 Good evening David, I have a customer who lives in a 17th century reproduction house. She has a basket she recently bought that looks like an antique. Appears to have been sitting in a barn for decades ... a really "grimy" appearance. She would like me to reproduce this appearance on some of the baskets that she makes. There may be a coat of paint on the basket, and then it looks like there is decades of dirt on it. Although I don't particularly care for the looks of the basket, you really have to look close, and be a basket maker, to realize that it is a relatively new creation. Would anybody have any suggestions? Incidentally, I stain my baskets w/ some homemade black walnut stain. A couple of years ago a customer in a craft show accused me of trying to sell new baskets as antiques. He looked sheepish when I pointed out to him my name, and the date, on my baskets that were for sale. Lois, you indicated to me that you were from New England and wondered if I were close to your hometown. I live in southern RI; a place known as "South County" to the natives. Joe Conroy Exeter, RI %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Swap Etiquette Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 00:02:49 -0500 From: "Deleana A. Adams" To: davidc@iei.net Hello weavers, I would like to offer my gratitude to everyone who wrote both privately and in WW's concerning my recent post about swap etiquette. I am also appreciative of the occasional gentle kick or pounding I received, in addition to the tremendous support and encouragement; because your responses mean that a nerve was touched and a thought process engaged. My feeling is that every opinion, positive or negative is important, for we seldom visualize every aspect or viewpoint until it is expressed. We are all thinking now about how our public messages are being perceived or interpreted by others. Most people understood the message I was trying to convey, though some didn't, so I would like to clarify that I am not condoning rudeness on any level for any excuse! Yes! I feel that a simple thank you is not only proper etiquette but should be considered mandatory! However, when a basket recipient hasn't sent a thank you, we should not be so quick to publicly denounce their rudeness, for we are then lowering ourselves to that same level of impropriety and compounding it by adding hurt and embarrassment to the situation. This type of exchange benefits no one and discourages new, future participants like myself. Every one of us pours our heart, soul and creativity into constructing and filling a swap basket, and along with that goes great anticipation that our partner will be appreciative and thank us when it arrives. However, we cannot expect to change a person's behavior or lack of etiquette by embarrassing them on a public forum, we can only hope that their future maturity, experience, knowledge and the swap guidelines will eventually do that for us. It is not for us to judge. Those who sent baskets and were disappointed and upset by an unresponsive partner, might want to consider this suggestion for future swaps. Send your baskets "return receipt." That way the recipient will have to sign for it. The receipt will be forwarded back to you by mail or delivery service, thereby notifying you that the basket has indeed been received. Yes, this process "may" cost a few pennies more and require filling out a label, but isn't peace of mind worth a few extra cents and time? In the event the recipient doesn't send a timely acknowledgment, you'll at least know right away the basket arrived. As a basket instructor and exhibit judge, my goal is always to help open a path for learning, to offer constructive criticism, to explain why I have critiqued, and to offer possible solutions or corrections for further growth. This is why I listed hypothetical situations and possible solutions in my first message. I was not attempting to give basket recipients an excuse for improper etiquette, to run things, nor suggest creating a litany of new rules. I was merely attempting to help suggest ways in which to eliminate the possibility of further hurt or embarrassment. In addition, I was also suggesting that perhaps a preliminary message sent to participants might be in order. Such as: a) Basket recipients are "required" to send a personal thank you to the sender within a certain time period after receipt of a basket. And suggest that if this requirement isn't fulfilled, then their future participation in a swap could possibly be waived. b) Basket recipients and senders should also notify the swap coordinator. c) Messages concerning non-receipt of a thank you notice should not be sent to the WW's list, because they can be hurtful and embarrassing, as well as impede fellowship, good will and future participation by new members. I am sorry if I've offended anyone by expressing a desire for civility and good will on this list, and apologize for the length and severity of my message, that was certainly not my intent. I had hoped to be a regular reader and exuberant participant. Regards, Deleana (Dee) Adams %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: ww Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 22:14:42 -0800 From: Kim Leppin To: David Collins Hi All, Just want to ask Juanita what basket bingo is and how it's played. Sounds interesting. Also I think the potted plants are a great idea! Kim in Wisconsin where we're having 50-degree weather in February! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: basket pattern Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:14:16 -0500 From: gatsby@larck.net To: davidc@iei.net Diana - there is a picnic basket pattern with a wooden lid at Baskets of Joy but it doesn't have 2 handles. You may want to check it out. Thanks for the address for Union Station. I was able to get there. But, when I bookmarked it, I couldn't get back. Guess I'll just have to enter the address each time. Dot in Maine where it's supposed to be near 60 tomorrow. We'll take it! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: basket pattern Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:17:01 -0500 From: gatsby@larck.net To: davidc@iei.net Diana, I scrolled down further at Baskets of Joy and found they do have a picnic basket with 2 handles and a lid. Check it out. Dot in Maine, again %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: ow, owe, hot, hot Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 10:10:03 -0500 From: "Dolores Gatz" To: "David" This was suppose to go out in time to be in the last ww's. David's faster than me, sorry. Please everyone, this is not directed at one person, but several. There are a few people that have not sent there 'Thank You' notes out yet. Yes, you can't send it if you haven't gotten your basket yet. There are three people I'm still waiting to hear from. One I know hasn't received yet. But those of you that have and haven't sent you "Thank Yous" please do so. As we have all seen, some people are almost as eager to receive the Thank You as the Basket. I know I am. Also, a suggestion -- Some people did this during this swap and have taught it to me. So you don't have to write multiple times to the sender of the basket and the coordinator. Write once to the person whom sent the basket and under that 'To...' button at the top of your email there's 'Cc....'. That stands for Carbon Copy put the coordinator. For those of you that don't know it - that's a '2 for'. You write the one letter and it goes to both people. I can't tell you how much I enjoyed reading those thank you's. I know I will do it this way for now on myself. The # of people signing up for these swaps is growing and it involves a lot of time on the coordinator's part. I'm trying to make sure that everyone has gotten their basket so the next swap can go on. I got some of the sent and receives though reading ww's but with a busy schedule, I couldn't guarantee I got them all. That's why I've been after everyone to let me know directly. Now again I'll say it coordinating the swap involves a lot of time. I'm not saying this for 'pats on the back' or for 'feel sorry for me'. I'm saying it because its the truth. At one point I would have liked to see all 1,000plus members of ww's involved in a swap. Now that I've coordinated one, I take it back. It would be a full time job. I have apologized a number of times because even though for the most part the swap sounded like a good one. There was times I felt that I stumbled with the ball. I've been trying to keep up with it. But life at home and work (along with school) has been a bit packed. I try to get involved with the swaps for my own inner peace. I have appreciated everyone's words of support thought out this swap. And had hoped that everyone would be happy with their swap. But alas, once again I'm afraid I've must have dropped the ball because Joanne felt that she needed to write the letter. When she had asked me about the arrival of her basket, I had looked into it. The receiver was afraid when it arrived and when she returned she let me know she got it. I in turn let Joanne know. I have since talked to the receiver and she has assured me that she had send a lovely handwritten Thank You snail mail. I apologize once again to both Joanne and the receiver of Joanne's basket for the stress that has gone up here. I wish you both well and hope things will heals. I, personally have found Basket people the grandness people on earth. Please lets all go on and leave this swap behind us. I'd hate to see David's service go up in flames. I know the day I received that issue of ww's. Wait me put this tidbit here. I worked slightly later hours then everyone else, I'm the only one. I work 10 to 6. So that day when I arrived everyone was standing in the parking lot. It seems there was a fire alarm. Someone saw smoke on the other side of our back wall. So if my mail had heated our server that day, I'm frightened to think what it might have done to David's. Yes, this story is true. But, yes I have also turned it into a joke. Please, lets keep our weaving and this list and swaps fun. I, myself make an effort to make a special basket for all the swaps. But the weaving itself is for me, my own enjoyment and pleasure. Now to sum this up, I'm down to needed to hear that these three people havereceived a basket. Rae Hunter - has not Winnie Blazinski - in Greece Eileen Oesterle Please, Please anyone that hasn't - send those thank you's. Everyone has made a big effort to weave that basket. And I understand Jennifer is chomping at the bit to start the next swap. (Or was it - she's cowering behind a basket) REMEMBER HAPPY HAPPY!! AND GREAT WEAVINGS! Dolores Long Island, New York %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 3 I. 108 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 13:59:41 EST From: BODBASK@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Good grief Charlie Brown here's the no so last word regarding basket swap manners 101....either they have manners or they don't. You cannot force anyone to be courteous, as Miss Manners would say any more than you can force a person not to marry someone! Lighten up...in the grand scale of life if someone does not thank you for something you gave or did, it's their problem and not yours, at least you will have remembered to thank someone wouldn't you have? Everybody likes their 15 minutes of fame, to have pats on the back and be recognized for something they gave or did, but if your life depends on it, that's too bad and really sad. You know you did a good job and in the long run, no body else counts. From Jill in sunny Orlando Florida who read this manners stuff and shook her head..get on with the basket making ya'll... %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Picnic Basket Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 13:34:27 -0600 From: Gary Dunham To: David Collins Diana in Indiana - I wove, as a Christmas present, a beautiful picnic basket with two handles and wooden lid. I got the pattern from Noresta, along with the handles and the lid. It seemed pretty sturdy to me. Unfortunately, I've looked high and low for my Noresta catalog but can't find it to give you their number. Maybe fellow weavers could supply it? Dieing for the next swap. The basket I received from Marci Linder is wanted by all who see it! To the weaver who lives in Marengo - we're close neighbors. I'm in Crystal Lake. Email me sometime! Cindy in N. Illinois Where we're having beautiful spring weather %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% If for any reason you would ever like to cancel your subscription, simply send me a message with "unsubscribe" as your subject.