"Weavers Words" Vol. 2 Iss. 62 Date Sent: November 24, 1998 Subscribers: 873 David Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 317-899-5747 davidc@iei.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Do You Like Weavers Words? Click Below To "Recommend-It" To A Friend! http://recommend-it.com/l.z.e?s=210339 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Hi Everyone, I have added some new pictures to Weavers Words picture page. Check 'em out. To see all the great pictures go to: http://www.iei.net/~davidc/pictures.html Susi Nuss has added a "Christmas Ornament Pattern Packet" to Weaver's Words classifieds page. To check the packet out go to: http://www.iei.net/~davidc/classifieds.html Keep all those basket pictures and recipes coming. Take Care, David davidc@iei.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: FW: Scams to Abduct Women - FWD Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:03:04 -0600 From: "Karen Mitchell" To: David, This message was passed around at work - thought I'd share it... Karen Mitchell/St. Louis GOOD INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT THE ARE UPON US. I just received this today. Apparently this was on Inside Edition a few weeks ago. I thought it was worth forwarding. Last night on Inside Edition there was a segment that is of interest to all women. There are several new scams to abduct women. In one, a man comes up to a woman in a Mall or Shopping Center and asks if she likes Pizza. When she says she does, he offers her $100.00 to shoot a commercial for Pizza but they need to go outside where the lighting is better. When the woman goes out of the mall she is abducted and assaulted. Another ploy is a very nicely dressed man asks a woman if she would be in a Public Service Announcement to discourage drug use. The man explains that they don't want professional actors or celebrities they want the average mother to do this. Once she leaves the mall she is a victim. The third ploy, and the most successful, a very frantic man comes running in and asks a woman to please help him, his baby is not breathing. She runs out of the mall following him and also becomes a victim. These have been happening in well-lit parking areas, in daylight as well as night time, all over the country. The abductor usually uses a van to abduct the woman. 'Inside Edition' set up a test in a Mall and 10 out of 15 women went out of the Mall on the Pizza and the PSA scam. And all of them went out of the Mall on baby scam. Please pass this along to your friends and family as now that it has been shown on nationwide TV there are bound to be copy cats of this. The third one, I think, is the scariest. You might resist, pizza or becoming a commercial celebrity...but who would be able to resist a frantic father asking for help for his child? I'm sure that one would get me. I was going to pass this on to the ladies only, but guys, if you love your mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, etc., you may want to pass it on to them, as well. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:18:17, -0500 From: BDKE97B@prodigy.com (MRS BILLIE A DORRIS) To: davidc@iei.net As I finished the last WW I read Dee's note about her Shaker baskets. It reminded me of something I have been seeing in this area recently- esp. at antique shows. The tag reads Shaker Basket but the bottom is stamped Basketville and they are DREADFUL reed baskets. At least they aren't priced as if they are the real thing. Makes me cringe when ever I see them. Not much to contribute these days. I am on somewhat of a break from weaving. I am done with the shows for the year. I know it's early but there aren't a whole lot of shows in this area that will support my prices. I am actually enjoying the rest after the year I have had. My son and daughter are visiting this week from Japan. They leave here on Mon. to go to her family in Minn. for Thanksgiving. Am afraid they are in for a big weather shock as it has been unseasonably warm while they have been here. He keeps asking why she brought two suitcases since he of course can fit everything into one duffel bag. I guess he just wears the same clothes regardless of the weather. Also now he is asking how many boxes she is going to have to send back. They like the northern part of Japan where they live but there are no malls of course and the supply of Levi's is rather limited. She is having a great time shopping and has a list of things that friends have asked her to pick up for their kids for Christmas. Beanie babies and Nintendo games lead the list. I remember when we were stationed overseas all those years ago. Basically if it wasn't in the Sears catalog than you just couldn't get it. Susie says that they have trouble convincing some companies that sending to an APO address is just basically sending to NY or San Fran. So they won't even send them catalogs. Well I guess I've rambled on enough for now. Just wanted to share the Shaker stuff while I remembered. Billie in Va. Beach, VA. Oh!! for those of you who are members of The High Country Guild - we know that some have received info and some have not on the winter weave. Let me know if you have not. Seems as if the Post Office is an equal opportunity discriminator these days. They were all mailed the same day and at the same PO. Don't panic that the deadline is past- just get it to me ASAP after you get it. Billie %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Greetings Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:47:45 -0600 From: "milosserb" To: Hi David & Norma, Just wanted to take a minute and wish you both a very "HAPPY THANKSGIVING"!! David a special thanks goes out to you for all the numerous things you have done to keep this website up and running and so very exciting! To all my fellow basketweavers eat as much turkey as you can and yes use your hands to hold that drumstick , the grease makes it easier to do lashings!!! Enjoy!! From Macomb, Michigan where this weeks weather was perfect!! Kathie A %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: The Country Seat Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:08:03 From: Eileen To: davidc@iei.net Just found out that The Country Seat, one of the oldest basketmaking business in the country just added an on line catalog. They offer a secure site for ordering all your basketmaking needs. You can get there at - http://www.countryseat.com Donna and the rest of the folks at The Country Seat are always great to do business with over the years. I noticed that under books they carry all of Donna Rokhol's Baskets, Baskets, Baskets books. I always have recommended them to anyone just starting out in basket making. I also finally got my Indiana Basket convention booklet. Eileen %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: aloha, all Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:13:47 -1000 From: The Keener Clan To: davidc@iei.net Aloha from wet and windy Honolulu, Nice to hear about all the swap baskets and I want to join the next one..my first swap basket never appeared and if it was mailed from the mainland on 12 Oct (hmm, wasn*t that a federal holiday and the post offices were closed?) it would have been here by now, even coming by rowboat! I feel if my swap mate wasn*t going to send it, she should have just said that instead of telling a lie. I did a class at a church on Monday--taught the pineapple on a wooden base. I have to collect the $ so while I was doing that and getting them started, one woman asked if I had change for a $20. I didn*t so I walked over to Richard and told him and he said "You just get them weaving and I*ll give her the change" He thought I had the $20 and I thought he got it when he gave her change....when we realized she hadn*t paid, Richard said "If you haven*t paid, please give it to Lois before the end of class" and she looked me in the eye and said "I paid MINE". Well, I know she didn*t and SHE knows she didn*t...not only did she get a free class, but an extra $8. So the new rule is, pay me and then you*ll get a kit. In a church, no less..... It looks like I won*t be traveling to the IBA this year. There are a variety of reasons--I*m being interviewed by the Girl Scout council for a trip to NY in March, none of my friends from Donna W*s chat room are going (and meeting them was a main reason for going), I*m worried about the amount of vendors and so on since another major convention is that weekend, and I*ve been told volunteers get first choice of classes and I*m afraid I*d be taking classes I don*t really want....and this trip will cost me a lot of money--airfare alone will probably be in the area of $900--a lot of baskets to pay for that. So maybe next year. We are looking at buying some land for a log home in east Texas in prep. of retirement in 6-7 years...so if I*m still weaving, then conventions will be no problem..... Hope everyone is fine and preparing for a great Thanksgiving.... Lois %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weavers Words Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:20:27 PST From: "Alice Edwards" To: davidc@iei.net Hi Everybody, Mandy's tale of getting dye on her shirt and sweats as well as her hands reminded me of a success story I've been meaning to share. I got a black walnut stain at the hem line of a long dress skirt. I washed it once and hung it on a hanger to dry, so the dryer wouldn't set any stains, then discovered the small very dark stain, at the hem-line. I was afraid it was hopeless, but I washed it again and used a product called Z-out on the stain, hung it to dry and checked it out. All but a faint shadow of the stain was gone, and I was really surprised how well it worked. It doesn't show at all when I am wearing it, since it is down at the hem-line. Might be worth trying, if you have a bad stain. Jacki - thanks for sharing the review about your friend's latest project. It was very well worded. Gail Caron - Sorry to hear about you computer problems. Maybe a Chinese Cookie Cooler basket for a 'Chinese' auction. Why is it called a Chinese auction? Stephanie - I looked at my catalog and the phone numbers for N. C. Basket Works are (800) 338-4972 for orders and (910) 245-3049. The number for Fax is 910-245-3243. The address is 130 Main St., P. O. Box 744, Vass, North Carolina 28394. And a suggestion for any members looking for catalog addresses, try calling your local library reference desk. There are Large volumes published containing nothing but addresses of mail order suppliers. Especially in a larger town or city it is well worth your while to check out what information is available. Elaine Bidstrup - Sorry to hear about all the stress at work. Hope it lets up soon and you get some weaving time. Glad the project with the blind kids is doing well. Dolores von Rosen - Don't know what kind of word processor you have and there can be lots of differences. I use Word and occasionally just use the insert(files) function to bunch information in multiple files together into one large document and then delete what I don't need. Also you might try using copy instead of cut. Remember you are all in my thoughts and prayers. Happy Weaving Alice Edwards in the Kansas City Area %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Wee-Wishes Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 22:12:48 -0500 From: martyhln@juno.com To: davidc@iei.net Hi David, and World Basketmakers... Well I wanted to respond to someone who was asking about the pattern, Wee Wishes Wishbone pattern. The pattern was written by Pat Levitte... address ...150 Fenner Road...Caro, Michigan... 48723-9654. I just finish one, on a duck bone it is so interesting. Pat shared her basket this month with our guild. Nancy in Glen Arm, MD... The only way I know for you to write your own pattern, is to read other peoples patterns, I am assuming you are writing your own creative work, not a copy of something someone else has created. (that is called plagiarizing, it is not lawful, you can get in a lot of trouble by doing that) I think you can learn the way others make their patterns understandable. Your own original design, then needs to be put into your own words, to make it your own. I hope you lots of success. It is cold here, in Michigan. I want to go where it is warm. However guess I would miss the changing of the seasons. There is no doubt here, winter is on the horizon. Until next time go have fun, weave a beautiful basket. Warmest Regards...Marty Holihan...Flint, MI...dholihan@gfn.org (or).martyhln@juno.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:26:27 -0500 From: Linda Kotarba To: Weavers Words Hi weavers, Knowing the span of your talents, I thought I would post and tell you about a paper-pieced turkey pattern (free) http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/2771 It works up 'fast' and makes a great giant coaster, basket tuck-in, hot pad... wall hanging. It makes a lovely hostess gift! Wishing you all a Happy Thanksgiving! Linda Farmington Hills, MI %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: RE: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 61 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:14:47 -0500 From: "Susi Nuss" To: "'David Collins'" Hi everyone! Sometime back someone inquired about the knot patterns that would be used in willow rug beaters. (Sorry, I don't remember who it was that asked) I came across this site while doing research of my own and I thought it might help out. It is about knotwork generally, and Celtic knots specifically. I found it fascinating and wanted to share it with all of you. http://home.ctnet.com/drew/jra-knots.html Happy Thanksgiving! May your baskets be filled with bountiful harvest. Woven Wooden Wishes, Susi Nuss Basketry - The Mining Co http://basketry.miningco.com mailto:basketry.guide@miningco.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weavers words Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:18:33 -0700 From: Aubrey and Christine Harrold To: Sorry to disappear like that - I so enjoyed the melon basket class that I worked on my basket most of Sunday too (it was only half finished at the end of Saturday's class). That put me way behind in my pastel class, so have been catching up since then. I was really pleased with the melon basket. Rae brought some beautiful golden willow for the ribs and handle. It took much of the morning to work them so that they could be bent into the circles which form the basic framework. Rae is writing a book on melon basket construction which she asked me to work through in class as a sort of test run. The illustrations are beautifully clear, and all the little questions that a first-timer (this one, anyway) would ask were answered. The basket now sits by my easel holding the pinecones I'm painting. It carries me back to sunny, summery days with its wonderful scent, which is especially appreciated as there are five inches of snow on the ground outside. Bert Comstock - Thank you for your suggestions for my problem basket - you have a wonderful grasp of the nature of willow. I think additional horizontal rows will have to be woven between the existing ones, as you suggest, perhaps using some contrasting material like red osier dogwood. Drying and finishing the base before drilling is also very sage advice - you must be very patient. Donna Kallner - Your discussion of fresh vs. soaked willow was most interesting. Has your friend who raps down her work so tightly found a way to preserve the bark as she does so? When I rap directly on fresh weavers it shreds the bark; even laying a flat piece of wood over the weaver and hitting the wood causes some damage. Perhaps covering the weaver with a piece of thick cloth of layers of chamois would protect it? I don't know, haven't tried this yet. Has someone else here solved this problem? Alice Edwards - working around the spiral to work the slack out makes perfect sense and is what I should have done (sigh). On a previous basket I found that even when the willow was quite dry, if the walls of the basket were vertical I could pack the willow by pushing down each row individually, starting at the bottom and working up. I should have realized that if the walls slope (diameter of the basket varies) this doesn't work; as you say, the slack has to then be worked along the weavers, which can't be done if the weavers have dried. What have I learned? Pack it and pull it as tight as possible the first time. In the spirit of Thanksgiving, thank you David for this cozy haven where we may gather in friendship, laughter and learning. Christine Harrold, who's added mittens to the pruning shears she carries in her purse - you never know when you'll come across a good patch of willow in snowy Alberta. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Please excuse Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:41:50 EST From: ZOOBAR@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net My ignorance BUT- as I'm a new reader and I wonder Where do I find the photos referred to? Is there also a WW web site? Do you also print patterns in this newsletter? HELP! Also want to add my thanks to Derby Basket Guild of Louisville for hosting the visit by Sandy Atkinson Nov.13 & 14 where all produced a Sleigh. However- being an "all thumbs" weaver I should have known better than to take the Friday the 13th class!! Barbara Zoobar@aol.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 61 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 03:32:43 EST From: froggestow@juno.com (Roberta R Comstock) To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 "Weavers Words" Vol. 2 Iss. 61 Karen awong - What is the shape of your wine basket? Is it the kind where the bottle lies on a slant? The black and white sounds like a classy combination. Ruth in Apollo - What kind of edge finish (if any) do you do one your basket project for 2nd graders? Are you using round stakes? Are your weavers flat or round? It sounds like fun for the kids! Susan Slaven - Glad to hear Judy was up to teaching the class. How did your chair seat turn out? Lara Hengstebeck - If your cousin can have a high ceiling in her basket room, she could have some big wood beams across it. They are wonderful for hanging reed in coils or bags, or finished baskets. (Also good place to hang bunches of herbs to dry.) If beams aren't practical, at least put in some ceiling hooks. Perhaps some built in bookshelves on the wall with the fireplace - she (? - you haven't said) could store reference books and patterns and tools there, and such non-reed things as jute cord or waxed linen and various embellishment items (beads, ceramic or wood tie-ons, wire handles, etc). If the shelves are made 'taller' between shelves and twice as deep for the bottom 2 or 3, that will make a cupboard area for buckets and soaking basins with the top of the deep shelves doubling as a countertop area & that one shelf might be a good place to put a Formica finish. Then she can use it as a cutting or gluing area, or a workbench for carving rims and handles or bending wire handles and not have to worry about messing up the wood. Drawers just below the counter top are optional, as are doors on the lower cupboard part. I'm also a fan of ceiling fans. They can keep your workspace comfortable in marginal weather. Is it an upstairs room? How close is the nearest water source? Is a utility sink a possibility? Choose flooring that is easy to care for and not easily stained if it gets a little water sloshed on it. Which way does the window face? Is it on the north side of the house? I can't remember who asked about saving bark form a redbud tree that was being taken down. I saved a little from pruned branches last summer, but found it rather brittle and uncooperative to work with. It might have been a bad time of year, though, so go ahead and try it and see what you get. If it works, you're ahead of the game. If it doesn't you haven't really lost anything but some time. I'm sort of becoming a bark and root junkie. I'll experiment with whatever I can get my hands on. Bert Comstock Independence, MO %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: I've Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 22:38:57 EST From: ZOOBAR@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Found your site at last! I sent you an e-mail a few days back asking where this site was-even tho' I was already receiving WWs I couldn't track down the site.(guess I'd failed to Bookmark it- banging head on keyboard ! ) So..I thought and thought some more- did tons of browsing and VOMLA I found you. Have ordered 3 books from your " Basket Bookstore " link to Amazon so make sure they give you your 15 % Referral fee Really appreciate all the hard work you do for the site-I search all the issues I've received so far for tips and how-to's. Have seen a mention of two about having a "Tips" section. Is it possible to do this? Maybe it'd be less work for you if readers could send just TIPS alone in separate e-mails that you could then shuffle off to that area ? In the meantime I do have a tip- use glycerin (one Tablespoon or more per gallon of water) when soaking your materials to help them soften. I've just started doing this after reading the hint in a book by Robin Taylor Daugherty. If any weavers have had adverse results from this please let me know ASAP!! I've also been told a bit of liquid laundry softener also works well but I worry that product may have "additives" not good for basket materials? Any comments from WW readers about this ? Bet to all WW readers- Barbara in Louisville- who's settling in and looking forward to a long hard cold winter so I can do lots of weaving. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Korbmarkt Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 08:46:42 -0500 From: "Mary Hooper" To: Would Ann Ridgeway be kind enough to give the address for the German basket market website? I've been searching for it and Jacalyn suggested that Ann would have the address. I'd like to plan a trip there but have had no luck searching the web for info. Thanks, Ann ********************************************************* "Give me a star," she said, "and make it a big one." mjhooper@mitchell.main.nc.us %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 57 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:12:28 EST From: froggestow@juno.com (Roberta R Comstock) To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 "Weavers Words" Vol. 2 Iss. 57 Lois - I only have one little red maple tree in my yard, but there's a huge pin oak out back, complete with birds and squirrels. The temperature is dropping into the low 30s tonight and our drizzly rain may be mixed with snow flurries. Donna Kallner - Thanks for the willow discussion. I'll probably go ahead & start a willow rib basket soon. Dot in cool, woodstove weather Maine - The Missouri convention is in June. 'Missouri loves company!' Susan Apperson-Waite - Are you on David's monthly list of Dealers? That would be a good place for your pine needle and walnut slice notice. Jean Cadmus May - I like your Polident idea for cleaning stained hands. I've been reading so much information about the dangers of various household chemicals, it's nice to see something that's safe enough to use on the teeth that go into a mouth. Have you been reading WW for a while? In case you haven't, I just wanted to let you know that both my swap buddies in totally different parts of the US made baskets for me using your patterns. The baskets are not at all similar, but are both wonderful. So Thanks for your part in them. Gail Caron - Thank you for organizing and coordinating the 2nd WW basket swap! Diana French - I don't have particulars, but I believe there's a basket convention or festival of some kind in Stowe, Vermont. That might be one you could get to. Lyn Levan - My condolences on the loss of your father. Hope things settle down soon so you can get back to more weaving. Darleena - Your Veterans' Day post brought tears to my eyes (and all down my cheeks). Thanks for sharing it with us. I'm printing out a hard copy for Bob's mother. Diana - I don't think your post was repetitive. Your red osiers are probably a type of dogwood. I think most woody plants that are being grown for basketry will grow taller with less branching it they are planted very close together so they have to compete for the sunlight. They go into 'race for the sun' mode trying to get taller than their adjacent neighbors. Dee - Wild Cherry tree: I would tie some rims and carve some handles (bark left on) from the smaller branches. See if you can split some of the rim pieces. Also, peel as much bark as possible before it gets too dry. You can keep the bark from curling up too much if you roll it loosely inside out from top to bottom (or vice-versa). OOps! I wrote this response to WW V-2 I-7, but never sent it (until now). I'm also just now sending David a recently learned super-easy recipe for Cran-apple-walnut Pie. Have a happy Thanksgiving, everyone! Bert Comstock Independence, MO %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% If for any you would ever like to cancel your subscription, simply send me a message with "unsubscribe" as your subject.