"Weavers Words" Vol. 2 Iss. 57 Date Sent: November 03, 1998 Subscribers: 842 David Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 317-899-5747 davidc@iei.net {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Do You Like Weavers Words? Click Below To "Recommend-It" To A Friend! http://recommend-it.com/l.z.e?s=210339 {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Hi Everyone, I have added some new pictures to Weavers Words picture page. Check 'em out. I would like to thank Judy Benner and Cheryl VanDeVeer and for their generous donation. Take Care, David davidc@iei.net {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: aloha! Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:38:23 -1000 From: The Keener Clan To: davidc@iei.net Who wants to be my next door neighbor?? It has been plenty hot here on Oahu lately and I*d LOVE to be neighbors with someone who has a yard full of maple trees and a bit of nip in the air..... At a recent guild meeting, someone had a basket that was neat. She called it a Seagrass Storage Basket and it was round (perhaps an 8-10" base)--about 6" tall and it had a woven lid with a hole in the middle. She said it was to store seagrass and pull the amount you need out the hole. She couldn*t remember whose pattern it was, so does this sound familiar to anyone? I am weaving that most elaborate sleigh by Mary Skillings on Sunday and I*m looking forward to it, but am a tad bit intimidated....it is one awesome basket. Hooray!! I am most definitely coming to the IBA in March and to hear that the books are on their way makes me most excited. This will be my first convention and I*m looking forward to weaving with others, but most of all meeting my friends from the chat room. It will be a long expensive flight, but what the hey! One more craft fair and then I*m on semi vacation...and looking forward to reading and doing Girl Scout work and gardening--having a life. We are buying a new Jeep in January and I*m going to be hitting the roads with the top down every chance I get..... Hope everyone is well. Lois Honolulu {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 56 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 22:54:42 EST From: NurseVicki@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Thanks for the Martha Stewart's top 10 list, it was very cute. Happy weaving. Vicki {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 55 Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 00:01:37 EST From: froggestow@juno.com (Roberta R Comstock) To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 "Weavers Words" Vol. 2 Iss. 55 Kay Janke - Thank you SO Much for your great convention report. Hearing about all your activities and fun is a nice consolation for not being there myself. I was especially interested in the Wee Wished baskets. I've never seen one or heard of them before, but have been saving some wishbones and planning to make them into ornament baskets - probably a rib style with fine reed and grasses and waxed linen. My smallest one is from a Cornish hen, but I plan to do the turkey one first. Leslie in Michigan - I'm so glad you got to go to the public day of the AMB convention & had such a good time. Now you can see how inadequate word are for trying to describe the bustle and excitement and sensory overload. Nancy in Glen Arm - Have you gotten any response to the email you sent to Oprah? Pat Moritz - I am also interested in when Jill Choate might be in Missouri. If she teaches at the MO convention next June, I'll try to get into a class. If not, I'd be interested in whether you set one up in St. Louis. I'd gladly drive that far for it. Kay Ames - I will try to find out if the juried baskets for the 99 MO con have been sent back. The mouth rim on my fish pouch has beads between the larks head knots, but they don't show very well. I was using them to space the spokes. I'm working on a couple of pouches that start at the top and end in fringe or tassels. Bert in Independence {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: For Weavers Words - In memory of... Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 08:22:33 -0500 From: "Linda J. Braun" To: For those of you who have not heard, Beverly Wilson lost her battle with cancer on Oct. 23. She had fought bravely for more than a year, going through bone marrow transplants and numerous chemotherapy sessions. Her brother and webmaster, Lewis, plans to maintain her In Season Herbs and Baskets website at http://www.cicada.com/priv/inseason/index.html as a memorial to her. He wrote how comforting the notes and cards from basketmakers were to her and how they made her feel a part of the basketmaking community. Linda Braun - Baskets, Etc. Baskets, Etc. http://www.bright.net/~basketc/ Linda J. Braun 636 Keen Avenue Ashland, OH 44805 Phone 419/281-1210 {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Baskets Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 09:49:48 EST From: LMBAUCH@aol.com To: Zvanut@aol.com, David Collins Dear Debi, How's this? Twill Tray - 5" hx17" l and 12" w. This tray teaches basic 'over two and under two' weaving. Natural and dyed reeds show the stepping up pattern. Bushel basket handles make this shallow basket visually interesting. Students may choose Burgendy, Country Blue or Green at color choices or may choose it do it entirely in natural reed and stain it later. Good for people with some weaving experience. 2 sessions Provender Basket is an old fashioned style of basket which is good for gathering flowers or as a centerpiece. The size can be varied a bit, at the weaver's choice - Approximately 18" long and 12" high. It has a round, split- spoked base. The sides are formed when the wood handle is inserted. 2 sessions. Let me know what they say. Here's an address for you: davidc@iei.net(David Collins) Laurie {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 56 Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 10:11:34 -0500 From: "Donna" To: "David Collins" HI everyone, Happy Halloween - Jayna - Re: Dye on your hands. I'm convinced that some people's skin absorbs things more readily than others. The only thing that seems to adhere to my hands is the stain when weaving with smoked reeds, I've never had a problem with any commercial dyes staining my hands. Two things you may want to try - (1) Use a hand lotion with lanolin BEFORE weaving to put a protective coating on your hands which may help to keep dye from being absorbed by your skin. (2)A commercial waterless handcleaner that we use both here at work and at home available at hardware and auto supply stores, etc. called "Fast Orange" natural citrus hand cleaner. It's really nice as it contains aloe, lanolin & jojoba with NO petroleum solvents. Kathie - NO, you daughter certainly does not have to stop weaving. I don't want to shout so I won't use CAPS but there should not be anything on the reed that isn't on the tea she drinks or the herbs & spices she uses in her cooking. Definitely stay away from ALL spray stains and any brush on's containing petroleum distilates. Commercial dyes probably are just fine, but she may want to contact the mfr. to ease her mind. Hope everyone has a nice weekend. My project will be to make a round reed cat basket which hopefully will be more appealing to our "indoor" cats that our "work in progress". (Had just finished a round reed basket last weekend and set it outside on the patio to dry in the breeze, till I turned around one of the cats had appeared out of nowhere and managed to squeeze herself into it. She was sitting up and looking out at me over the rim. It was so comical as the basket was only about 8" dia. at the base, widened out a bit and then came back in at the top. She must have really wriggled around to get herself into that position.) Bet the one I made specifically for them, still won't be as appealing as ones they don't belong in. Sunny, cool & breezy PA Donna http://www.countryseat.com {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 07:39:19 PST From: "Patty Johnson-Welby" To: davidc@iei.net Good to be a part of ww. Thanks for the opportunity to mingle with fellow weaver- it's appreciated. Can anyone be of help to me in locating a book intitled " Antler Baskets" by Bobbi Marshall Harris. From what I gather it is out of print, and I would love to get my hands on a copy. Please, if you can provide any information, I would appreciate it. Patty {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: pattern Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:44:07 -0500 From: Emberg Organization: BACHEMBERG BASKETS To: davidc@iei.net Does anyone know where I can get a pattern by Dianne Stanton, "Penobscot Tote Basket"? One of my students requested it, and I do not have it. Thanks for your help. Ruth Emberg in PA {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Willow Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:34:49 -0800 (PST) From: Donna Kallner To: David Collins Christing Harrold, Bert Comstock & Willow Weavers -- Just a bit of a comment on weaving with willow fresh and/or dried. I've done both, and find it's good to have both in your bag of tricks. There are others on the list who do more stake and strand weaving (Jacki,Kathryn -- you out there?). For this style it is more common to use dried and resoaked willow, because fresh willow can shrink so much after the border is woven that the basket becomes loose and weak. But whether you weave with dried/resoaked or fresh, you'll probably need to "rap down" this style of basket. Rapping down uses a heavy tool to help pack the willow nice and tight as you weave the sides. I know one stake and strand weaver who weaves so tight and raps down so thoroughly she can weave with fresh willow and you would not know it because her baskets are solid and sturdy. This is perhaps the exception to the rule (but then she's a pretty exceptional weaver). For rib-style (AKA frame) baskets made of willow, you can definitely weave with either fresh or dried and resoaked. If you work with fresh, you might want to leave a couple of inches unwoven in the middle (after all your ribs are in), let the willow dry and shrink, then finish the weaving. You can just stick your fresh willow in the fridge, freezer or a snowbank until you're ready to finish that basket to make sure your willow matches the color you used previously. The advantage to using willow fresh is it makes it easier to use the beautiful abundance of colorful willow growing wild in your neighborhood. I've had problems trying to resoak dried wild willow. I'm not saying it can't be done, just that I've had problems (colors changing, bark slipping off, etc.) Jacki learned some great things in England this fall (perhaps she'll elaborate, maybe share some pictures), and I'm anxious to try a new method I think might help solve some of those problems But I still like knowing how to weave with fresh for when I find I have time to weave but I didn't plan ahead and get willow soaked. I'm anxious to hear more about how others work with willow. Donna Kallner White Lake, Wisconsin {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: basket swap Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 12:26:38 -0500 From: gatsby@larck.net To: davidc@iei.net I received my basket as a welcome treat on Halloween. It is a round, swinghandled, wooden base basket made with natural and spacedyed reed. Carolyn Black sent it and hand painted fall items on it. She also included a reindeer pin. It's adorable. I had seen the pattern but had not seen it made so small. They are both great. Thanks again Carolyn. I am envious of all of you who went to the convention. I checked to see if there are any events during school vacations. There are none listed on the WW's events page. Anyone ever consider doing one in the summer so the school teachers who weave could attend? Wishful thinking. Maybe I'll just retire from teaching and do baskets instead. Hope all are well and made it through Halloween with treats instead of tricks. Dot in cool, woodstove weather Maine {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: pine needles Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 18:47:30 -0600 From: "Apperson-Waite" To: "David Collins" Hi, The weather here is just wonderful, such gorgeous leaves this time of year...makes me want to weave, weave, weave... If anyone is interested, I have long pine needles still for sale. They are still $10.00 per pound plus shipping. Also, walnut slices are good with pine needles, and really make beautiful embellishments on these baskets. They are $.25 each and are hand cut and sanded. Please contact me at prinet@iswt.com if interested. Thanks for all your hard work David. Susan prinet@iswt.com {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 56 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 19:00:04 -0600 From: jeancmay@juno.com (jean c may) To: davidc@iei.net To Jayna Glemby In reply to your stain question.....try a denture tablet! Drop 1 or 2 in water and soak your hands. Since I'm usually in a hurry, I use one as a pumas and you'll be amazed how fast it will clean you hands and not be as abrasive as Soft Scrub or chlorine bleach. I saw this tip given for removal of fruit stains and thought why not try it.....it really works great! I seem to have the biggest problem with stained hands when I'm dying reed, not when I'm using dyed reed. Make sure when you dye your reed that you set the color well, then when you use this dyed reed, don't soak endlessly......get it wet, take it out of the water and place in a zip lock back until you are ready to use it. I usually try to remember to pass this Polident trick on to my students, but think I forgot to do it at AMB. If I remember right, the reed did not bleed (much). Jean Cadmus May {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: RE Convention V. 2 I. 56 Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 17:26:08 -0800 From: Joyce Fisher To: David Collins References: 1 I agree with Kathy. Convention was so much fun and it's great to be with the BIG GUYS. The are all so willing to share. I consider myself a very beginner and I learned so much. Joyce {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: bleaching dye from reed Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:36:49 -0500 From: jbenner@juno.com To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 HI Jayna, I read you bleach the excess dye that ran out with a q-tip. Can you describe in more detail. I have a neat double sided market basket that I made in class. It's natural and wine colored and during the weaving the dye bled some onto the natural. I also bled some on the natural (G) bumped my cuticle into bleeding and didn't realize it. I'd like to get rid of whatever I can. I thought about carefully with a small paintbrush staining just the natural reed so it wouldn't be so obvious but I'd like other ideas. Thanks so much!!! Judy Benner jbenner@juno.com {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: basket swap deadline, etc. Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:39:19 -0500 From: "Gail Caron" To: "David Collins" Hi David and all Weavers Worders: Just wanted to check in with another reminder that today is the deadline for sending your swap baskets. If you are going to be delayed, PLEASE let me or your swap partner know. (Those of you who have already emailed me do not have to do so again). Also, when you receive your basket, please let the sender know that it arrived safely - a brief message is all that is needed. Out of curiosity - did the remaining two participants (Lois and Miriam) who did not receive their first swap baskets in a timely manner ever get them? With that said, everyone should receive their baskets by the end of the week. If you do not have your basket by next Monday (to allow for shipping - I know that I sent my basket via priority mail which should have taken only three days, but it did not arrive for almost a week), please let me know so that I can look into the situation. Now that the deadline is officially here, I am ready to pass the title of future swap coordinator onto the next volunteer. I think Joy indicated that Jan Hardt and Sue Bajczyk were next in line according to her records. Still interested? New volunteers are also welcome. In spite of some problems, the swaps are a lot of fun. I am envious of all of the postings coming in about the AMB convention. With all of my animals who need daily care and medication, I don't think I will ever be able to attend one of these fantastic gatherings. Oh well, maybe someday - until then I will just enjoy reading about them. Maybe someday there will be one in the midAtlantic region and I can attend for one day at least. I haven't been weaving much the past few weeks. I have had numerous computer problems caused by the incompetent technical support of my computer manufacturer. For the past week I have had to come to the local library to access my email and send messages. I have no idea when I will get my system up and running. And last night, three weeks before Thanksgiving, my oven has started to crash. It took over an hour to preheat to 350, and my recipe required a temperature of 450. Now I will be waiting for an appliance repairman as well. I guess it was better that this happened now and not when the turkey was ready to cook. Hope everyone is well and happy. Gail Caron in southern NJ where it is definitely autumn and we still need rain desperately {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 56 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:54:07 -0000 From: "Jeff & Diana French" To: "David Collins" Hello Everyone! Well, I'm all moved into my new place and finally feel settled. Reading through my pile of WW I noticed a lot of Birthday wishes going out to David. So, I guess I'm a bit late.... Happy Birthday David!! Hope it was happy!! By the way, David - I loved the 'Being Stalked by Martha Stewart' joke! I can feel the excitement jumping off my computer screen... the swap baskets are arriving. I wish I could have joined in this swap - the last one was such fun! But the move left me little time and I didn't want to commit to something I really didn't feel I had time for. So, I'm eagerly awaiting the next swap - I'll definitely be joining in on that one. Wow! All this convention talk makes me think I missed out on a lot of fun! Sounds like a lot of WW'ers were there too. Maybe one of these days I'll get myself to one... are there ever any in the northeast? I'm in NJ and Michigan is a long way to go. It's been weeks since I last worked on a basket, so I'm chomping at the bit (so to speak). All my basket stuff is unpacked and I'm ready to start my Holiday gifts! I'll be by the shop soon, Mary! :) Diana French Enjoying a beautiful fall here in southern NJ {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Need info on Kentucky egg basket Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:58:37 PST From: "Elena Backus" To: davidc@iei.net Hi David, My name is Elena Gale, Mary Gullo give me your email and she is such a dear, I am looking for info on history of where what how so I may put together a packet for a class I am a novice weaver and I am still learning every day, and I am with a not for profit group and I have been ask to teach classes I chose the Kentucky egg basket for it is my favorite so I would be grateful for any help that you may be able to give me. My email is egbackus@hotmail.com Thank you for your help, we must keep the crafts, history alive Elena Gale :) {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: basket swap Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 17:41:21 -0500 From: John Miles To: David Collins I received my basket today from Gloria Logan and I love it. She said she was nervous about the swap and I agreed with her but the basket she made is lovely. I also received a wonderful surprise from my swap partner, Pat Moritz as a thank you for the basket I sent her. Do you believe that? A lovely necklace and I love it. I want to thank Gail for all the work she has done to organize the swap - what a fun thing to do. I am sure I will never miss one. Basket weavers are really special people! I will send a picture of my basket to WW soon. I have been to the Homestead in Hot Springs, VA for a Stonecroft women's retreat for the past 4 days and can't wait to get home from work tonight to start weaving. My husband asked if I had basket withdrawal and I certainly did. Saw some lovely rib baskets in a shop at the Homestead with willow rims and handles. I wonder if the weaver is a subscriber to WW. If so, I would love to hear from you. Judy Miles, from the Eastern Shore of Maryland where there is a chill in the air. {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Weaver's Words Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:11:49 -0500 From: "joym" To: Hi Everybody, I have just had a DRAG of an experience on another list which is not only censored, but run by a control freak. I'll tell you, Weaver's Words is one great list! I had to come & tell you how much I appreciate a forum where we can discuss whatever we want, working through even controversial topics, and sharing all aspects of basketry. Well, I am anxiously awaiting my swap basket. Aren't these swaps fun? Do send in your pictures to David! Seems like there have not been many posted on this swap... maybe because everyone is busy with fairs & getting ready for holiday sales too. My husband & I are working on a joint project...more his project than mine, but I get to inject the artist's perspective. He is writing a book on Small Business for Artists and Craftsmen. As far as I can see, many of us are almost totally in the dark about the many aspects to be considered in running a truly profitable business. We think we are making money when we aren't. We price our baskets according to what we think is a going rate, and not based on all of our costs. We undervalue our time & our products. To paraphrase my good 'ol Dad, "if we're so smart how come we ain't rich?" Has anyone become involved with The Artists Way or the Vein of Gold creative process? I did this 2 years ago, and have started up again. It's a wonderful way to get & keep those creative efforts rolling. Joy Sign of the Crow http://www.signofthecrow.com {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Rug Beater info needed Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:32:35 -0600 From: Jacalyn Bedworth Organization: Thompson Museum Consulting, Inc. To: davidc@iei.net I am looking for information on how to make old fashioned carpet beaters. At the recent Korbmarkt in Lichtenfels a man was making them out of what looked like whole round rattan. I was able to watch the whole process, but my lack of German prevented me from getting any further information. Does anyone know of published instructions, specifically on the different "knot" patterns? Many thanks. Jacki, back in beautiful, fall-filled downtown St. Paul, Minnesota {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: basket swap Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:55:35 -0500 From: "Dennis/Lyn" To: Hi David A VERY belated birthday wish to you! It has been sooo long since I have contributed to WW - I guess I'm a chronic lurker. I always look forward to receiving WW in my e-mail. Gail - Thank you so much for organizing the basket swap. You did a great job. I received a beautiful basket from Susan Tripp. It has a rim made of pine needles, and little bells all the way around, just below the rim. It is displayed in my living room. I finally mailed my swap basket on Sat., so someone down south shouldn't give up - it's on its way! I tend to be a procrastinator. I was in charge of organizing and running a craft fair at one of the elementary schools in which I work. It was held on Oct. 24. I felt I could wait until the craft fair was over before starting my swap basket - what a mistake! I couldn't decide what to make, then it took longer than expected, the stain wouldn't dry, etc., etc., etc. On top of all this, I'm executrix for my father's estate, and have had to deal with all that hassle - lawyers, creditors, preparing for sale. The list goes on and on. I hope my swap person likes her basket. Although I made it fairly quickly, I thought and worried about it for a long time! I'm looking forward to a little more relaxation time - cross country is over for my non-driving daughter, so the taxi time has decreased tremendously. The craft fair is over. My son has recovered sufficiently from surgery to cut out ingrown toenails on both feet. Now, if only the new addition on our house and our kitchen remodeling were over - another month to go! Fall is definitely here in chilly central PA! Lyn Levan {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Basket Swap Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:17:46 -0500 From: sandyq@juno.com (Sandy L Quackenbush) To: davidc@iei.net Hi, I am one of those who writes in maybe once a year. Today I was off helping a friend, by teaching two of her daughters how to make a snowflake out of 1/4 FF reed. Got home around 6 and still had to take care of dinner. We had fun trying to get the girls to do the work on their own. I was just about to go find out what left overs were in the frig when the mail man came up the drive and had a package for me. It was my swap basket coming to greet me. I received a Christmas door basket with a snowman painted on from Lyn Levan of PA. Thanks again Lyn, I sure do like it. I am the person people are sending raffle and door prizes for Weave N Twine 99 here in GA. So when my husband saw it, he thought it was something that would be leaving the house soon. But when I told him it was my swap basket, he got all excited saying "oh something thats for us." Thanks for all the work that was done to do the swap. Sandy Quackenbush in Canton GA, where we are getting some light rain for the first time in about two weeks, and cooler weather on the way. {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Veteran's Day Thought Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:38:20 -0100 From: "Jones Family" To: "David Collins" Organization: The Raymers To: "davidc@iei.net" I have a question for all of you who sell your baskets. Let's say you make a basket that is worth $35. You make a few more just like it and everything is dandy. Now you notice that on one basket there is a piece of dyed reed with a spot where the dye didn't take as well or one side of the basket is leaning slightly or just has some other small imperfection. How do you price this basket? What do you take off for imperfections like these? CLR {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Weavers' Words Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:41:56 EST From: ZOHE@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Greetings to all. I started this letter weeks ago, but never got back to it, so it is somewhat dated. David is so handsome as well as being a saint! WILLOW. Am enjoying everyone's willow input. I use a lot of purchased basket willow grown for weaving, but in addition I do use weeping willow when I am making a basket of mixed foraged material, it makes lovely bands of color and packed down well, the rest of the basket will support it. It is best picked after the first frosts and before leafing out in the Spring. One of my most treasured possessions is a huge primitive coiled basket, very thick, that a group of us made under the direction of Don Weeke at a conference in Tennessee in the 80's. Don brought the fresh multiple branched pieces with all the leaves on them from California. The Duegeno Indians used them for storing acorns, set upon a platoform, new every year. Something in the willow leaves killed any bugs in the acorns. (Have a feeling I wrote about this before, but we are always getting new WW members). I don't agree that using willow is like weaving with round reed, the pieces are shorter and the kinks made in the weavers are permanent. Also, people with painful wrists should not sign up for a really large basket for their first willow class. I laughed out loud at the description of Kay's class with Werner Tertsche. A good thing about willow is that it is not toxic, good for food baskets, and babies can happily chew on their willow rattles. (Which this person finds impossible to make, Bonnie Gale's are beautiful). Loved reading about Willow Dreams Farm on their website and their animals, and hearing about Sue Ann Boitnott's willow corner. Red osiers (different from willow) grow well here. I have tried cutting them down to the ground in winter, hoping they would grow long straight shoots like willow, but it doesn't work and they still branch. Can anyone advise me on pruning them? Pam Feix. You asked about the British Basketmaker's association newsletter. You have probably found it by now under BASKETS, ETC. Their web address is http://www/bright.net@7Ebasketc/. They send out six newsletters a year, full of members articles and photographs, some by American members. Covers Britain, Ireland and wherever in the world people like to write about. They cover chair caning, rushwork, some reed and a preponderence of willow. Interesting historical information too. Back to more paper work! Diana Macomber in Northern Virginia {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: RE: "Weavers Words" Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:35:38 -0500 From: "Jane A. Wilson" To: "'David Collins'" Hi David, I trust all survived Halloween and the election. Which was worse? I was interested in Kay Janke's comment in issue 55 about Pat Leavitte's Wee Wishes basket class. Kay, PLEASE send info as to how to contact Pat to buy the pattern. I really love to incorporate bones into baskets and dreamcatchers. Jane Wilson {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: " Back to Basics"Weaving" Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:48:39 EST From: DeeGrin@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net David and fellow weavers, I am settled back into my weaving after having a great visit with my 3-year old granddaughter Erin and her Mom and Dad. I forgot how much energy it takes to keep up with that age and my daughter is now 7 months pregnant so was fun to give her a little reprieve. Erin and I had slumber parties and sang all the great songs and read sooo many books. Everytime I visit my daughter I visit the Shaker shop that sells my baskets, they are such lovely sisters, it is a joy to visit their shop and especially to see my baskets there. They ordered 30 more baskets , so amy baske home weaving like crazy as I also have a big two day craft fair the weekend after thanksgiving. I don't know where the year has gone to. The leaves were just beautiful as the weather was too the whole time I was in Evanston IL. It is starting to cool off in Fla. so look forward to weaving outside if the mosquitoes ever leave. My husband cut down a wild cherry tree and I'm not sure how to dry it if I want to make bases or lids. Any suggestions, it doesn't look like it would split for weaving. I would have been really worried if I'd been home and not heard from you David, but it was nice as I didn't have to much catching up with Weaver's word. Hope you are fine now. Guess its just a busy time with trips, craft fairs and the holidays coming up sooner than believable. We had on a great little camping trip to Northern Geoprgia just before my trip to Chicago. Back to sleeping in a two man pop up tent and cooking over the fire. Too many large RVs everywhere though so camped in National forest with showers but no electricity, enjoyed it. Back to my weaving. 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