"Weavers Words" Vol. 2 Iss. 51 Date Sent: October 11, 1998 Subscribers: 814 David Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 317-899-5747 davidc@iei.net {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} ***IMPORTANT INFORMATION*** ***PLEASE READ BEFORE PRINTING*** 1.) Highlight entire issue. 2.) Click copy. 3.) Paste issue into a word processor of your choosing. 4.) Now Print. {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Hi Everyone, (B) Mrs. Naomi Paquette sent me a picture of the Nantucket purse she made. To see the picture go to: http://www.iei.net/~davidc/yourpics/paquette.html (B) To see many more basket pictures go to: http://www.iei.net/~davidc/pictures.html (B) I wanted to remind everyone about the Basketry Events Calendar on Weaver's Words web page. I will post any basketry events between October 1998 and December 1999. So far I have only been sent FOUR events to post. If you have an event to post please include: Name of Event, Location (City & State) and Contact (Name & Phone). The events calendar can be found at: http://www.iei.net/~davidc/events.html (B) Mr. Fredrick A. Kogler has placed his "Ginger Bread Boy" Basket Buckles to Weaver's Words Classifieds Page. Remember anyone can place their basketry items in the classifieds. The classifieds can be found at: http://www.iei.net/~davidc/classifieds.html (B) I would like to thank the following person for the donation. Mrs. Debbie Cates Mrs. Fran Steidel (B) I have added an internal search engine to Weaver's Words home page (http://www.iei.net/~davidc/). The search engine will theoretically search all of Weaver's pages and back issues for a certain word or phrase. For example, type the word "Halloween" in the search form and it SHOULD find every occurrence of the word "Halloween". I have tested it and it works pretty good. Of course, if you search for a common word like "basket", you're going to get hundreds of results.. (P) I found a place to receive a free recipe every day in your e-mail box. Send a message to recipe-submit@salko.com with "SUBSCRIBE" as your subject.. Take Care, David davidc@iei.net {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Travels And Miscellaneous Other Things Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 23:01:49 -0400 From: David & Ruthanne Morningstar To: David Collins Hello Fellow Weavers, First, I agree with publishing the names of those who reneged on their commitment. They have had ample time to respond, over a month. Enough is enough! Second, I used to take orders, make the basket and send it to the customer. They would send a check with the shipping charges added to the total. At a spinning weekend where I was teaching, a gal asked me to make her one of my Back Packs. I did so, mailed it and waited and waited. Wrote asking if she liked the basket? And waited. Finally, I wrote to asking her if she had any intentions of paying for the basket. Nothing. I sent another letter, registered, telling her that if she had no intentions of paying for the basket, to please return it as it didn't belong to her and she was a thief. Still nothing. Now I will not send baskets without at least a deposit, if not the full amount. That particular person from Holland, Michigan has made me very skeptical, as well as not very trusting. It only takes one! I live in the country and have extremely hard water with lots of Iron. I'm going to make up two black walnut dye baths. One with my well water and another from my softened water. Will let you know the results. But, I will not be doing that experiment for a while. I've just returned from a Rifle Class at the NRA Whittington Center in Raton, New Mexico. That was a very tough course, but, well worth doing. I enjoyed myself tremendously even though I came home black and blue with aches and pains where there never were any before. I was the only women among the 23 students. AND, some of the men were the same age as my daughter who is 30 and younger than my step-son who is 34. I guess I did okay for an old lady almost 52. Next we will be leaving for a two-week trip back to the Whittington Center for a Theodore Roosevelt Memorial and Shooting School Reunion and after that a three day stay at the home of a Hopi family to teach them how to make their Ceremonial Baskets. Some of you may remember my talking of this last October. Well, the time has come. I'm quite excited. Just talked to the Hopi lady and she has informed me that their water main broke five days ago and hopes it's fixed before I arrive. They've been hauling water up to the Mesa for five days. She also runs a restaurant there. These people are very determined. What an inspiration. I'll let you know how things go. Just imagine, spending three days in the home of a Hopi weaver and her family. How lucky can one person get? Ruthanne Morningstar in Dryden, Michigan, where she has just started packing and the dogs know that something is up. They spend their two weeks at the Dog Kennel. Lucky Dogs!!! David & Ruthanne Morningstar Dryden, Michigan Mstar@mich.com dmstar@CompuServe.com {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: (no subject) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 02:22:26 -0500 From: Marty Zielke To: David Collins Dear David, Thanks for the great newsletter. I joined not to long ago, and sent and e-mail, but have not seen it in any Weaver's Words. So I must have done something wrong, and will try again. I have read many comments about 'hairs' on the baskets. I recently have taken the time to sand all my reed before I weave it. I find that I have very few hairs after I finish. I sand the reed till it feels like silk! This is very time consuming, but my baskets have a beautiful finished quality to them. Now for a question. Has anyone ever woven with willow from a willow tree? I planted a beautiful Wisconsin willow tree several years ago, with the intention of using it for weaving. But I find the willow a bit brittle. Has anyone used it, or can anyone offer any advice? I sure would appreciate it. Also, I hear lots of talk about planting one's own willow bushes. I would appreciate any information on this subject. Marty Zielke {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Thanks!!! Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:29:30 -0400 From: "Mandy Miller" To: Hi basketmakers! I haven't been participating at all lately, and I must admit that I really haven't had time to read many of the weaver's words lately. I have an update for those of you who know my mom, Nikki Applin. Those of you who attended Winter Weave in Ohio last year may know Nikki - she was diagnosed with endometrial (uterine) cancer in August. She is recovering well from her surgery, and we have been blessed with the news that the doctors believe they have removed all of the cancer. So...we'll be seeing you at Winter Weave again in 1999!!! You are such wonderful people - thank you so much for the cards, gifts, and prayers over the last few weeks. I am now a strong believer in the power of prayer, and I honestly can't express how much your friendship has meant to both of us. I know that it has deeply touched my mom (and me too!) to know that you are thinking of her and wishing her well. Mandy Miller W. Henrietta, NY {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: RE: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 50 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:27:34 -0400 From: Susan Tripp To: "'David Collins'" Carolyn, Don't let that "crunching" discourage you from staining your baskets. Once it is dry, take you hands and purposely and gently crunch the basket all over once, and it won't crunch again. Joy, I agree about those basket lover stains. I've used them and most of the time I don't like them - especially the bottle of goldenrod that I dropped on the floor because the lid wasn't on tightly. What a mess. What I found is that by applying them in layers such as blue first, white next, then using minwax driftwood, it makes a wonderful "antique" color. It takes a while with three coats, and it takes even longer to dry, but it looks great for that antique look. I've even used them by applying with a paintbrush, wait 'til almost dry, then washing the basket stain off to give it a more washed looked. That seems to look nice on the right basket too. Anyhow, I love the look with Minwax and will stick to that foremost of my baskets. As mentioned above, they all crunch when dried, but a little palm handling takes care of that before they go out to show. Robin: You came in at the end of lots of discussions about staining baskets. I would first suggest going back and reading the most recent (maybe the last 10 or 20) postings of WW on David's WW site. As for the color of stains and which are best depends a lot on what quality reed you are using and how you apply it (brush, dip, spray). For the most part, look at the wood samples in the stores where you buy the stain. It will be slightly different on reed, but you can tell which are light and which are dark. Don't forget to mix colors you like for a completely new color or add the clear stain some you want to lighten. Susan from upstate NY. {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: WW Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:47:19 -0400 From: "Chris Baker" To: David Collins To Pam W. or anyone else pricing a lot of patterns: I bought the biggest 3-ring binders I could find. I did not want to price every single pattern separately. I made a cover sheet for each pattern with the price, a photo & the name of the pattern, and a short description. I put that in a page protector like we use for the patterns. Then I put an index tab that you stick on the edge of the cover page with the name of the pattern written on the tab. So each pattern has a tabbed cover sheet that people can easily look through as well. This saved me from pricing hundreds of patterns. I hope this helps, and I have explained this so everyone understands it. If anyone has any questions, you can email me personally. Also, I found that my local Staples has the Xerox brand page protectors are the least expansive. The best buy is 175 for $15.99. Wal-Mart has Avery Diamond Clear right now a 100 for $4.97. It is actually a 75 pack with 25 bonus protectors. I had to remember to put these in my non-tax purchases. I had forgotten that these were part on my patterns for resale. Just though I'd mention it so no one else would make the same mistake. :O) Chris Baker-ICQ#19347967 Days Gone By Augusta, Maine http://w3.ime.net/~cbaker online catalog: http://w3.ime.net/~cbaker/catalog.htm {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: check up on email Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:54:59 -0400 From: Help Desk To: "'David Collins'" Hi David, Where you said you were having trouble with my email I figured I'd write in and check to see if you got my answer to it. Also, I thought I'd write and tell about my trip to Mt. Gilead, Ohio. I went to the Gourd Show. We had a lot of fun. The only thing bad was the rain. We ended up leaving early because half the vendors were outside. We didn't want to get sick. Friday night they had a Gourd Music concert. It was really good. It's hard to believe there could get such great music from gourds. They showed how to clean gourds, how to make musical instruments, painting, coiling. There were lots of gourds both finished and unfinished to purchase. A couple that I bought needed to be cleaned but with all the rain, by the time I got home they were cleaned. I'm hoping I got lots of pictures. Sent the film out today. Some will be developed over the Internet. If there are any good ones I send the code to David to share. I came home with a toad made of gourds. It's really great. I don't know if I'll ever get that good with gourds myself. I also got a video about a lady whom made all kinds of instruments, dolls, and creatures made of gourds. The video of her home reminded me of Lita's home. The only difference was Lita's home is full of baskets and this lady's home (I don't remember her name) was full of gourds. Along with my purchases and film I've come home with lots of ideas. Now, to come up with the time to work on them. On the way home we stopped in Lancaster, PA. Had fun there too. Came up with some more ideas for the gourds and baskets there. I'd like to go back there on a 3-day weekend and try to get to an auction. Got to run, I'll let David know when the film is done. Dolores {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Weaver's Words Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:12:37 -0700 From: hannah To: "'davidc@iei.net'" Hi all, Just wanted to respond to the October 4th issue of Weaver's Words and then I will be reading the one I just received. Patti Hawkins: Please e-mail me the name of the individual that has stiffed you as I want to be sure to keep them on a beware list. At least that way, I can get payment prior to shipping any order that we may receive, if we haven't already received one. To the family who recently lost a child: I am so sorry that you have lost someone so dear to your lives. I have never lost a child, but I have lost people very close to me, and that was hard enough. I am praying for you and will keep praying for you. I wish that I could ease your pain. I hope that you will soon be able to remember all of the good things and put a smile back on your faces. Keep the faith. To All: The recipe page looks really good, thanks for sending them in, and please keep sending them in. I haven't gotten a chance to make any yet, but plan to. I am going to try out one of the recipes I received for my little crafty gingerbread men and will let you know how they turn out. Thanks to all. Happy Weaving, Pam in Southwest OH, where tonight my son gets to play in his first homecoming football game and the weather is just right. {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 48 & 49 Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 18:50:35 EDT From: froggestow@juno.com (Roberta R Comstock) To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 "Weavers Words" Vol. 2 Iss. 48 (B): Jayna & Mistress Jan - If you need to stiffen ribbon or fabric trim for weaving into a basket, you can use iron-on interfacing on the back side. Has anyone tried the liquid fabric stiffener from craft stores? It could be worth experimenting with. I think you would need to apply the stiffener and let it set enough that it wouldn't smear on the basket, but not enough to be inflexible yet. Once you weave it in it would set up firm. I don't think it can be softened by rewetting, but am not sure. Gail - Thanks for running the 2nd WW Basket Swap. (P): Patti Hawkins - With regard to non-payers, you could start by making a public announcement of their home towns and offer to provide the names on request. I think it might be a good thing to notify them that you intend to publicize their names and give them a week or two to make good on their debts before doing so. I probably wouldn't just publish names outright without warning, but you could certainly notify other dealers of who the problem folks are. If you have a catalog or price list, you might add a policy statement to it saying that you will publicize names of non-payers. The other option is to not ship anything before it is paid for, except to established trustworthy customers. I think we need to be careful not to get into the habit of calling names and applying negative labels to people who may just be having a temporary problem. Repeat offenders, though, probably deserve the 'deadbeat' label. Jayna Glemby - Your interpretation of the WW family is right on! The Donna in PA - Ohio Buckeye and Horse Chestnut are the essentially same thing (_Aesculus_ spp.), but they are NOT edible for humans! The seed contains a glycoside, which causes nausea, vomiting, weakness and paralysis. I don't know how many a person would have to eat to reach the toxic level. Treatment is to remove ingested poison by emesis (vomiting caused by syrup of ipecac or liquid detergent), activated charcoal, or gastric lavage. (_Handbook of Poisoning_ by R.H. Dreisbach & W.O. Robertson, 1987, East Norwalk, CN: Appleton & Lange) Edible chestnuts (_Castanaea_ spp.) are different! Sherry Gregg - The more recipes, the better! And while we're on the slow cooker topic, for those of you who aren't familiar with them, they are marvelous for pot roasts and other less-tender cuts of meat. Kay in Michigan - Your autumn festivals sound like a lot of fun. I recently bought a small basket of locally grown Jonathan apples from our nearest orchard. They're great with sharp cheddar cheese on Rye Krisp crackers. Bert in Independence "Weavers Words" Vol. 2 Iss. 49 (P): Lois - The silly woman who thought Bridget was a maid's name must have been unfamiliar with her Irish history! Brigit a pre- Christian Celtic goddess in Ireland was probably the namesake of St. Brigid (born about 450 A.D.), who is the Irish female patron saint and who established what was probably the mother-convent of Ireland at Kildare. (from _The Flowering of Ireland: Saints, Scholars & Kings_ by Katharine Scherman, 1981, Boston: Little, Brown & Co.) Donna - I thought it wasn't libel if it was a fact. I would not include anything in the way of opinions or descriptions about non-payers, but would think that a simple statement of the fact that a person has written bad checks or failed to pay a debt is a legitimate thing to share with other dealers. Any attorney's out there who can clarify this for us? Pam Feix - Many of us have been through experiences similar to what you are dealing with your Grandma. My mother died of lung cancer in 1989. It had metastasized to her liver and her brain. Our hearts go out to both of you and the other members of your family as well. There's no such thing as too much caring support in this situation! Betty Kourkounakis (alias the sinus congestion and bronchitis queen)...- I think I held that title last year & am hoping to have a much better Fall this year. (Knock on wood & stick to the prescribed drug regime.) Sorry to hear you've got it though. Good luck getting it under control! Bert Comstock Independence, MO, where October is bright and crisp and it's about time for some fried green tomatoes. {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Door County,WS Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 19:42:58 -0500 From: "bsspilman" Reply-To: <@paulbunyan.net> To: Dear David, Thanks for compiling all this material and sending it out to each of us. I have received quite a number of issues, but until this point have only been a lurker. I have really enjoyed reading all the hints - especially the ones about stamping and embossing on baskets. I have tried it once and plan to do more. Also the sponging - I have a picnic basket that I made last spring that definitely needs some color on the cover -and sponging may be the answer. My big question is - next week I have two days off from school and am planning to go to Door County Wisconsin for the weekend. Are there any basket shops that are a definite do not miss! Having never been there before what else should I check out while there? Including hints on restaurants!!! Thanks from northern Minnesota where the leaves are beautiful and the dear are roaming. Eileen {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 50 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 19:43:08 -0500 From: "Patricia A. Moritz" To: David Collins David: Thank you again for the wonderful job you are doing for all of us. We truly are a "family" and you are the "bond" that holds us all together. Billie: My prayers and thoughts are with you and your daughter, Judy. I have a former brother-in-law who suffers from schizophrenia and although, it is not the same as your daughter's illness, many of the down periods probably are the same. You're right - she is now at peace and the good Lord can watch over her now. Pam F: My prayers are also with your grandma and all her family members. My mother died at 51 from colon cancer so I know what you are feeling. Be grateful that grandma has had such a long, and I'm sure, fulfilling life and has blessed the lives of all those around her. My prayers go with her decision and with the family's acceptance of whatever decision she makes. I'd better get going. Have to still check out the latest changes on David's web pages. Pat Moritz St. Louis {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Chair Weaving Class Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 20:48:18 -0400 From: "Judy Mullins" To: David, I tried to put the following info. on the classified section. For some reason my computer wouldn't let me view the whole program. So if you don't mind, please put this on Weaver's Words. Thanks a bunch. Judy Mullins There will be a chair weaving class on November 14 at Mullins Log Cabin in Grant County, Ky. Time: 10a.m.- 4 p.m. Class fee: 25.00 Cabin is located about midway between Lexington and Cincinnati & 2 hrs. East of Louisville, and 4 hrs. North of Nashville. You will be using the herringbone design. This is chair weaving, not caning. Class is limited to 10. So please let me know soon by e-mail. Thanks, Judy Mullins logcabin@fuse.net {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Picture frame weaving Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 21:28:25 -0400 From: David & Ruthanne Morningstar To: David Collins Hi Fellow Weavers, Someone was asking for a pattern for weaving picture frames. I just bought a book "Parables of the Baskets" by Lorraine Otto. She has a nice, quite detailed pattern for a picture frame on page 5 . Haven't had time to review it, since I leave on Saturday for my trip out west, but it looks quite interesting, with several other patterns, i.e. Japanese weave, a Quaker Candle Basket, an interesting lidded wicker woven basket she calls Mother Mary's Basket. Printed by University Printing, Ferris State University, the ISBN # 0-9648543-0-9. The cost is $14.95. Or you could probably order direct from Lorraine Otto, 7686 West State Road, Middleville, MI 49333. Sorry no phone number. Off to New Mexico and Arizona, where the weather is Warm, the people are Friendly and the food is Delicious. Take care all. Talk to you in two weeks. Ruthanne Morningstar, in Dryden, Michigan - Where the packing is REALLY getting on the way and the dogs REALLY know what's in store for them, the Dog Kennel. Oh well, they'll survive. They always do!! David & Ruthanne Morningstar Dryden, Michigan Mstar@mich.com dmstar@CompuServe.com {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: searching for 12 gauge annealed wire Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 21:33:15 -0500 From: Bonita Gentry To: "davidc@iei.net" I have a huge box of carved wooden handles that I could use to make wire basket handles with but have been unsuccessful in locating 12 gauge dark annealed wire. Any suggestions? {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 48 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 19:59:06 -0700 From: Sharle Osborne To: David Collins I have found some copies of American Indian Basketry Magazine in our local library. Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase back copies? Anyone have any stashed in the attic they would like to part with? Sharle Osborne sharleo@orca.esd114.wednet.edu http://olympus.net/personal/skoehler/bskt.htm {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: A sequel to "Steel Magnolias" Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:41:16 -0400 From: Darabond To: davidc@iei.net Hello dear David and all of the WW extended family... Some time ago Diana Macomber shared a British basket newsletter with a group of us which included a photo of the painting of a certain St. Julian who earned money for the poor by basketweaving and is thus the patron saint of basketweavers. I have snail-mailed the picture to David so he can share it with all who may be interested. (Some days my weaving needs more prayerful guidance than others, so St. Julian and I are old friends.) Personally, I think it should be posted with a picture of David beside St. Julian so we can see what a real modern day living saint looks like!! (Come on, David...just one little photograph of you so we can see if you look a bit like St. Julian, please??) If the title "living basket saint" is too heavy for you, how about "THE BASKETMAKERS HERO" since we are all indebted to you for the innumerable hours you spend bringing each and every issue of WW to life. Thank you, David, for giving so much to us all. My weaving for fall shows has taken a dramatic slowdown. My son and his fiancée planned on an April 17 wedding next year...rings engraved with that date, china pattern selected, photographer booked, etc. After talking with a financial planner, they decided to nix the big wedding in favor of a down-payment on a house. Michael is a fireman, often pulling my leg with practical jokes, so when he told me this on a Friday evening and asked if they could be married on our deck 6 days later on Thursday evening, I said "sure". (He and his Dad had just completed building the deck in mid-September.) Boy, was I shocked when I found out he was serious! (When I asked why the wedding would be Thursday, he told me it was because "Friday is my day off, and I have to get my wisdom teeth pulled".) As it turns out, with help from my Mom and friends, the usual mayhem around here was magically transformed in less than a week into the setting for a perfectly lovely wedding. Mid-afternoon Michael and friends were on the deck with air guns trying to scare away the squirrels that kept dropping nutshells all over the deck (rather like the scene in "Steel Magnolias"). By 7 p.m. the squirrels had disappeared, the candles were lit, the bride arrived looking beautiful, Michael beamed with happiness, and the wedding was memorable in every way. The day after the wedding, as I was filling the van with things to be returned to the rental agency, I managed to wrench my "good" knee (with arthritis in both knees, the term "good" is rather arbitrary), and have been dependent on a walker/wheelchair/crutches ever since. It is rather nice to just sit and weave, but I hate being dependent on someone else to reach this or fetch that, so I'll be grateful when the total joint replacement is done and I can return to full mobility. For now, I just wish we lived in a single-story home...these stairs are a bummer! On a happy note, the situation forced me to make the "Handi-capper basket" from the handles and pattern that I'd picked up at the Michigan convention a few years ago. It's a terrific pattern made for walkers or to fit on the side rails of a hospital bed. (If you're planning to make one, keep in mind the width of the walker and whether it has one horizontal rail or two. I needed to make the basket wider than called for so it would reach the sides of the walker for support. My walker didn't have a second horizontal bar close enough to keep the basket from hanging at an angle, allowing the contents to fall out. By making the basket wider, it can rest against the sides of the walker for balance.) I hope you've all been enjoying pleasant days and comfortable nights weaving to your hearts content, and that your autumn will also be filled with many wonderful and happy memories. Susan Bowers Darabond (in northern Virginia where we did convince Michael to reschedule his dental plans for another time, thus giving the newlyweds a few days for their honeymoon. Isn't life grand???!!!) {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: baskets Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 14:00:48 -0500 From: Jim Buettell Organization: Cedar Falls, IA To: davidc@iei.net Dear All, Another lurker comes out of the cattails. I am enjoying reading your comments and learning from each of you. I am a fairly new weaver. Tried the Victorian Christmas sleigh that was talked about and it turned out pretty good. The directions are a little weak in places, but I got through it. Am brewing up some stain from my walnuts right now. I could use a little (actually a lot) of moral support right now. Have a son who is getting a divorce, another son with AIDS, and a daughter who is a single mother of four children living in extreme poverty. Have been trying to help her by driving ten miles to her house every morning, preparing the kids and taking them to school, driving ten miles back home with the 7 month old baby, then reversing the whole process every afternoon. My knees are buckling. I am crying as I write this because I don't know how I will continue, but don't know what else to do. I'm taking medication for depression. Prayers would be appreciated. I can't even make baskets. Thanks. {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Don't forget Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:03:11 From: Eileen To: davidc@iei.net Jean told you about bringing your tools to the AMB convention. Now I want to remind you to mark those tools. Everyone has pretty much the same tools and there are often missing tools or tools left behind. If your name, initials or some other identifying mark is there you have a better chance to keep track of those tools. I want to thank all those folks who so generously donated door prizes for the upcoming AMB convention. There are going to be lots of happy folks. At the AMB as some folks may not know we purchase the one raffle basket from the artist. According to our state raffle license we are only allowed to have this one raffle for a specified amount. Other conventions have all their raffle prizes donated I believe. The door prizes are all donated by the vendors, teachers, and attendees. Hope to see lots of you folks there in Grand Rapids. Eileen {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Weaver's Words Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:44:36 -0700 From: hannah To: "'davidc@iei.net'" Hi all, Karen Mitchell: Thanks for the advice about getting family history and stuff like that, but believe it or not, I am a real history buff and very interested in my family. I have traced my family back (on both sides) clear back to the 1700's. One side I have back to the early 1700's. It is truly interesting and very good advice. I have also started a book on family history for my grandchildren. I hope that they will be as thrilled to receive it someday as I have been thrilled making it. Sherry in the Rockies: I really envy you. I love the west and the Rocky Mountains. I lived for 3 months in Salt Lake City, when I was a teenager, and I won't tell you how long ago that was. My brother is buried there, at a cemetery in Midvale, UT and it has a beautiful mountain in the background. We have a motor home and travel out west every year. In 1996 and 1997 we spent a month at a time out west. We went to Yellowstone both years, but we also traveled to Grand Canyon, Arizona, New Mexico, and also went to Glacier State Park in Montana. We went into the Canadian side of this international park and we just love the beautiful mountains, sky and everything out west. I would live there if I could leave my family, but I think I love them a bit more than the scenery. Still I envy you. Another question about a long lost recipe: Does anyone out there have the recipe to start the Amish bread that you make little starters from, add something to it everyday and it takes a week to get ready to use, then you make some bread and make some more starters and pass the starters on to someone else? I used to have this recipe and the bread is delicious. I can't seem to find the recipe and I was going to post it to the recipe page, but cannot find it. If someone out there has it, please let us all know. Thanks again. Pam Feix, in southwest OH, where it was sunny today, but cool and the leaves are beginning to fall. {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} If for any you would ever like to cancel your subscription, simply send me a message with "unsubscribe" as your subject.