"Weavers Words" Vol. 2 Iss. 34 Date Sent: September 06, 1998 Subscribers: 771 David Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 317-899-5747 davidc@iei.net {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} ***IMPORTANT INFORMATION*** ***PLEASE READ BEFORE PRINTING*** 1.) Highlight entire issue. 2.) Click copy. 3.) Paste issue into a word processor of your choosing. 4.) Now Print. {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} +++++Individual Weaver's Words Pages+++++ Of course you can always find links to each individual page on Weaver's Words home page (http://www.iei.net/~davidc/). 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Fall is definitely in the air in upstate NY! Wouldn't mind it so much if it would only last through the end of Nov.! ......wishful thinking! Debi G.: Thank you so much for my basket! It's beautiful! Will send a picture to WW soon! To Joy: Thank you so much for all the work you did organizing this swap - it was my first swap, almost didn't participate, but very glad I did. Thank you so much! Angie: thank you for the info on the Strand Bookstore - sounds like a day trip idea to NYC! My family has a habit of losing ourselves in bookstores, so we probably shouldn't plan any other sight-seeing activities for that day! :-) Gretchen: Cats and chocolate cookies! Love both! Linda: Count me in on the cookbook idea! Would love to help - just let me know... Janet McLean: Would love to talk to you more about homeschooling...if you're interested please e-mail. Thanks Susi: Isn't the Adirondack Museum great? There's an antique show schedule for the weekend of Sept. 19 (I think) - would love to go, but probably won't make it. Hope everyone has a safe and pleasant Labor Day weekend - school starts Tues. sigh..............Lesley {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Weaver's Words Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 08:53:16 -0400 From: "joym" To: Hi Everyone, I am enjoying the Swap pictures you are beginning to send in. Hasn't this been great! Yes, Gail, not to worry~ I will send you a write-up on how I did the Swap. Pat~ My husband has to re-set ICQ for me & we do plan to do that. I did not have a regular (basketry) group going on ICQ, but I would like to do that! I will e-mail you when I'm set up. Is there a better day/time for you? Anyone else interested? Lois~ Hope this finds you in better health. With luck, your 15 year old doctor will get a big crush on you & get you extra special attention! By the way, your basket is coming from "afar" & if it was mailed on the 1st. I imagine it would still take some time to reach you. Nancy~ Gail Caron was the first person to respond & offer to be the next Swap coordinator. I imagine you will get some feedback about your idea for a swap signup by October 1 to beat the holiday season. Sounds like the majority of people would like to do about 3 a year. So I guess that time frame would be about right since the one that has ended was a June signup. Here is an idea, not a Swap, but just a brainstorm I got. I propose that everyone who wants to bakes up a batch of their favorite cookies & sends a half dozen to David by October 15th. If you only send 6 he will receive between 6 & 4200. Maybe everyone should send one! Anyways, it would be a great big thank you for all the work he does for us weekly. :~) Linda~ Will your printer discount for larger volumes of printing? In other words, if we had a signup list ahead of time, we could calculate how much the printing cost for a larger book would be. I would be happy to send a recipe. Maybe even an old family (German) one. Regarding stains~ I have used walnut, Minwax mixture (with linseed oil), Deft & Weaver's Stain. I must admit I like the sprays (Deft & Weaver's Stain) best for their ease of use and fast drying, especially in the winter when I want no fumes trapped in the house. It is true that your colored accents will change slightly, that can't be helped, but the change is not generally drastic. I'd say the worst experience I had was when "peach" turned an orange color. Lucky I "tested" before hand on a loose piece of reed. With the Minwax mixture, you can dilute it down so the colors are not covered. I have also used Liquid Gold for a clear sheen, but the odor tends to be strong for some time. I now use a clear coat of Weaver's Stain. Wonderful stuff! ~Janet/newbie/lurker~ Welcome! Regarding the "authentic Nantucket weaver" question: I think we, in this forum, recognize that lots of work goes into a Nantucket, regardless of the geographical location of the basketmaker. I guess the question would be whether the "off island" person used traditional materials (oak or hickory staves vs. reed etc.). Elaine~ I used to work with a C.P. patient. She was very crippled & spastic with her disease, but boy was she a determined lady! She learned how to do a finger weaving technique for belts that I never would have guessed she'd be able to do. Susi~ I support your idea to send e-mails opinions to the University of Illinois. I like a pro-active stance. Too many people choose to be silent & perpetuate problems. However, they will be the first to complain about them continuing. This is an opportunity for us to educate. Maybe the guilds could take an active part, since many of their mission statements include providing education to the general public about basketry. ???? Who was looking for Irish basketry? Check the Culture Connection on my site. I, must have something in there~ there's a little bit on many countries/cultures http://www.signofthecrow.com Joy Moody Hampden, Maine where Fall is in the air & I just finished a batch of 1890 Green Tomato Mincement. {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 33 Date: Sat, 05 Sep 98 06:55:44 PDT From: pywoodbury@worldnet.att.net To: "David Collins" References: 1 , 2 Hi Weavers, I visited Nantucket 3 or 4 years ago. I envied everybody carrying a purse, but as I am a weaver wasn't about to pay the high $$$$ for one. Well I have since made my own and have yet to attach the lid to the bottom. I even went so far as to have my son buy me Martha Lawrence's book for Christmas last year so I could attach the two. It isn't a matter of not knowing how, it is a matter of just doing it. Anyhow while I was on the island I went into one shop where the purses were only $80. I asked the shop owner how she could sell them so cheap and she said they were imports from China. Now maybe I know why everybody was carrying on. I looked at those imports and it wasn't made bad, but I just couldn't do it so like I said went home and made my own. I also noticed while on the island there were some really well done Nantucket's and some pretty shabbily done Nantucket's so just because you actually live on the island doesn't make you an expert weaver although there are some fabulous weavers who live there. I'm not nearly as knowledgeable about computers as I am about baskets so I'll bite the bullet and ask what is ICQ? My WW comes as an attachment now so I can't just scroll down the screen and delete while I add a comment so please forgive me that I can't remember names but wanted to make a couple comments. I absolutely loved that the handmade baskets were a hit at the L party. Maybe next time your friend will want to sell your baskets at a party instead. I've gotten my aunt addicted to basket making and she has already gone to 2 conventions and spring event with me. She also won the best new weaver award at IN last year. She constantly is getting invited to L parties. I told her to just tell them no she didn't care for those baskets, but she is nicer than me. She goes and has been buying a lid or a liner and then making a basket of her own to fit it. I agree with Lois that I am turned off when somebody who never contributes anything to WW and then wants to use it for free advertising. I love the businesses on WW cause they can give great info and do a little advertising like the Country seat, but just to come on to advertise I do find a little nervy. It's like they can't be bothered with us to take the time to contribute, but expect us to buy whatever it is there are selling. I've had carpel tunnel for years. It never gets any worse because I now weave, sleep and use the computer with a brace on. Had I known what I know now I would have always used a brace to weave. It keeps my wrist strait. It may have been slightly cumbersome at first to weave with it, but once you get used to it, no problem. I get mine prescription from the dr. cause our insurance pays 100% for all our medical needs, but they do sell good ones at drug stores for less than $20. A little bit of personal info along with baskets, I collect beanie babies, spoons from all the states I have been in and Santa Clauses. Just got a new puppy one week ago. She is a spoiled brat already. She is a German Shorthaired Pointer and we named her Gretta. She loves basketweaving as she burrows herself through all the reed that shouldn't be all over the floor in the basket room but is and she also loves to sleep under the computer table while I type. We also have a cat that is starting to adjust to the puppy but was beyond ticked off for several days. She just last night finally decided to give me the pleasure of her company again and I suspect that was only because I was eating ice cream and she wanted to lick the bowl. Pam {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: RE: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 33 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:57:42 -0400 From: Susan Tripp To: "'David Collins'" My visit to the Finger Lakes Book Barn was great! They have thousands and thousands of books no longer in print. I did buy a book - The Baskets of Rural America, by Gloria Roth Teleki - wonderful book with great pictures. They also had the Mary White book that someone purchased at a garage sale for 50cents - here it is $25! They had a few other basket books by a Christopher fellow, and lots of chair weaving/caning books. If anyone is interested in a particular book, please e-mail me and I will be more than happy to either go book hunting for you, or give you the phone number, or pick it up and ship it. We just got back from our NYS fair. I bought several baskets from the local Indian Village. What gorgeous work this woman did. I purchased a beautiful large black ash twilled basket from a Mohawk woman. Then, she brought out the minis she had just completed. These were mini's that made my mini's look like regular baskets. These were beautiful tiny baskets with lids woven out of black ash and sweet grass with curls - just had to have one of them... I will have to take a pic and send it in as they are lovely. They also had a museum like display of beautiful old baskets that were just beautiful. This woman even took the time to show me her methods and how she split the ash. I hinted I would love to learn, but she did not offer to take me under her wing.... I was beaming the rest of the day from my prized purchases as we walked throughout the fair. We passed on the elephant ears this time :-) Okay, here's my L story...For several reasons, I too attended a L party a month or so ago. Lots of the people there had never been to an L party before as their gasps at the prices gave them away. They all wanted to know where my basket pictures were and why the host (long lost friend) had not booked a party through me. Everyone kept pulling me aside and inquired how to purchase one of my baskets. Fortunately, I did not bring my pictures with me and I tried to get everyone to take this up on another day because we were there for the L party. It was terrible. Hardly anyone purchased an L basket (except me - guilt??). Well, I have since received this very expensive, small basket, and will never, never attend another L party nor purchase an L basket. There was a little brochure tucked inside about how they were made specifically showing a pic of someone packing the rows nice and tight. My basket has such a gap in it that I've been weaving all sorts of different reeds and whatever else I can find to fill the loosely woven sides. Because of their putrid orange/yellow color, nothing seems to match, and I can't get a hold of the sales person to complain! Live and learn.... Susi: it is so good to hear from someone else who happened upon these underwater basket weaving classes. A while back, I surfed and kept coming up with these - more than one U has them if I recall correctly - and was so offended that it was a joke! I will certainly write and let them know. I recently had an interview where the VP made a reference to some of their work and made a wise crack about it needing a little more than "basket weaving" skills. I let the comment slip by thinking: HA! You will not get the advantage of my skills here. His very next question was, "So, what do you do in your spare time?" I told him. He spent the rest of the interview apologizing. Ruthanne: I bet I will be the only one in my neighborhood next spring anxiously awaiting those lovely little yellow flowers to pop up in our lawn! Thanks, can't wait! Linda: There are organizations out there just dying to get a hold of people who want to create a cookbook. They handle the publishing and binding (spiral) and offer several choices of covers. They are often used for fundraising but anyone that can sell a certain number (as little as 20 I think) can use them. It usually only costs $6-7 per book and you can have quite a number of pages to fill. You just have to send them the recipes, pick your style, and they do all the work. Might be worth looking into...could save you a huge amount of time - and money?? Okay, who's doing the next swap? Joy, I think since you were the headmaster last time, you need to pick one of the volunteers and let them set the next date and criteria. Even if it's not until months away, I just can't wait to see what's next. Susan from the beautiful Finger Lakes region of NY {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 33 Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 10:44:54 -0500 From: Dave Balleweg To: David Collins References: 1 Hi everyone, I want to thank Carolyn Willoughby for my...not one, but two...swap baskets. My package arrived yesterday and I had to wait til today to get to the post office to pick it up. Carolyn sent me an apple basket with homemade, handmade wooden apples and a friendship basket which is just the right color to put in a place of honor in my guest room. Bert Comstock: You wrote awhile back about a book by Christopher Will called "International Basketry". Is there any information in that book pertaining to basketry in Poland? To all: I am just beginning a search of basket history in Poland. My ancestry is Polish and I thought it would be nice to combine my search for my heritage with my love of baskets. Does anyone know of any sources for this information? Thank you for your help. Marcia Balleweg, Wellston, OK where it is still simmering over 100 everyday and no rain in sight. {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 33 Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 08:57:06 -0700 From: "Deb Curtis, Tisket Tasket Basket" To: David Collins I sure do love getting WW so often! (B)Nancy Skinner - I'd like to see a picture of the ribbed peanut basket. I've seen the other kinds but never that one. If you have a scanner or would like to send me a photo I might be able to figure out the pattern. I would only do this if there isn't already a written pattern. That brings up a question for everyone. A lot of us can look a basket and figure out how to make it. I've done that with some old ones that I have never seen a pattern for (examples are an antique yarn basket and an old swing handle large sewing basket that my grandmother collected in Michigan in the early 1900's). Both were made out of ash and I have only made replicas for myself, not to sell (although I'd like to). The replicas have been out of reed and cedar rather than ash. Any opinions? I truly believe in respecting other weavers creative ideas and thoughts. If there isn't a pattern and the basket isn't being taught then that persons work is still theirs. But we all get sparked from somewhere, maybe a piece of pottery, maybe a similar basket but to reproduce someone else's work when they aren't putting it into the public domain is a tricky thing. I'm always willing to listen and change my views when there are good reasons. (B) - The basket list just had a discussion and sharing of a way to "wax" your baskets as a protection. One of the list members (are you a WW member too?) has done it with candle wax and hardening crystals successfully. I haven't tried it yet but if there is interest I'll e-mail her and ask her if its ok to cut and paste it onto this list. (P)Linda Kotarba - A Basket weaver's cookbook! I have a great recipe for tofu pot pie and other vegetarian dishes. Would you want those or do you want to limit it for this time around to desserts or something else? I like the idea of Kinkos and the spiral ($1.95) binding. Thanks for volunteering to do this. Should we only do it via private e-mail? Maybe we mail our recipe plus $ at one time to you or would you rather have the recipes sent electronically? (B)COUNT Me in on the next swap too. Sounds like the baskets were fantastic, I'm sorry my summer was so busy that I had to miss out this time. Happy Weaving to all! It's almost Basket retreat time here in Oregon! Deb Curtis {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 33 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:21:39 -0400 From: "Donna" To: "David Collins" Hi everyone - Hope you all have as beautiful a day as we do here in eastern PA for your holiday weekend. Gretchen - I'm not familiar with the pattern you are referring to but I would tell you to treat both bushel handles(the heavy duty style) and door knob handles the same way. I would consider "out" to be on the outside of the basket - can you tell from the picture? Usually only the bottom part of the handle is inserted under weavers (I try for at least 2 rows). This way, it does not distort the shape of the basket. Insert your tips first and then pull up until the notches are against the rim. You may have to try 2 or 3 times until you like the placement - also moving one spoke to the left or right sometimes helps. (Don't be afraid to thin down the handles with a knife[especially the edges]). Lois - Hope this finds you well on the road to recovery - seems like you're keeping your sense of humor about the whole thing. I, too, have noticed how young the drs. are looking and I don't really like it. My own is retiring I recently found out and I hate the thought of having to start with someone new. Ruthanne - Thanks for the Dandelion Jelly recipe. Certainly looks easy enough. I make a violet pudding and I bet it would work with dandelions just as well. Susie - Yes that site is really unfortunate and always comes up when someone searches "basketry" on one of the search engines. A local female newspaper columnist who writes weekly about being a parent and working mother just ended an article with "Now I know that everything else is basketweaving!" Of course, I couldn't let that one go. I wrote a letter to the editor calling her writing dribble and that all she ever does is bellyache about being a parent and holding down a job. Is she the only person ever to do both? I invited her to the shop the see baskets that can take 100 hours (the picnic basket that Angie is sitting in at our site) and more patience than she'll ever posess to make. Well, I received an apology from her and a request from the editor to publish the letter! The whole point is, that we all have to try at every turn to keep the respect for our chosen profession as high as possible. (When asked what I do, my reply is always (1) I own my own business, (2) ok, a retail/mailorder business (3) OK, I sell basketweaving and chair seating supplies - YOU DO WHAT!-snicker, snicker, snicker) Hope everyone enjoys a nice holiday. Donna http://www.countryseat.com {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 32 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:37:38 -0700 From: Sharle Osborne To: David Collins Lorraine- Thank you for your encouragement about my web site. We'll be changing it soon, as we are waiting for a camera part and just located a friend with a slide scanner. Though I do make neck pouches with the local materials, those weren't mine you saw down in the Bay Area. I received a beautiful basket from Peggy Lawson and will send in a photo. I'll see if I can get one with the kitten peeking out, the kitten that is not ours that we some how have ended up cat sitting for several months. I think the kids may have had a plan from the start. I went to the Seattle Art Museum yesterday, they had some baskets from the Hill collection. Beautiful cedar root coiled pieces. Some day I would like to make this kind of basket. On the Winslow ferry on the way home, there were two new coiled baskets nicely displayed in cases. Great to see baskets recognized as works of art. I was glad to see other people step forward to offer to organize another swap. Only about 10 percent of the subscribers participated last time, so I'm sure we could get something going again. How about a local-to-your-area native materials swap? From Sequim WA, where it is clear, sunny, always windy and will get up to a hot 70 degrees today Sharle Osborne sharleo@orca.esd114.wednet.edu http://olympus.net/personal/skoehler/bskt.htm {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Handle insertion Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 14:55:07 EDT From: FosterBA@aol.com To: david collins Gretchen: Most weavers shave and taper the ends of the handles and insert them so that they are caught by one or two rows of weaving at the bottom length of the handles. The notch can be on the inside or outside of the basket it's the preference of the weaver. Just want to let you all know that once again Sievers on Washington Island was the ideal spot for a week of weaving with good people and leaving the responsibilities on the opposite shore. Spent the first weekend doing pine needle baskets with Tereriffe starts, and the rest of the week on twills. Learned to design our own patterns and appreciate the twill construction. Tressa Sularz was a patient understanding and sharing teacher. And as we all know that's the right kind of place to meet others who share the love of weaving. I want to say that I think David's' solution to the list length problem is the best. Send it out in smaller sections and we can all do what we want with the information. Barb Foster, in Green Bay where the dust is collecting but not thick enough to move yet. {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Elephant Ears Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 17:42:51 -0400 From: mbzaj@infinet.com To: David Collins References: 1 Yes, I emailed Alice to explain the Elephant Ears. It sounds as if there is still some curiosity out there so here is what I sent her. Yum.... An elephant ear is a ball of dough rolled out with a rolling pin about the size of an elephant's ear (???) then they poke little holes in it and fry it in oil. Then they drain it, brush it with butter, and sprinkle it with brown sugar and cinnamon. They are good, but I found you should share them with a friend! (they're big) :) Brenda Johnson {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Swap Basket Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 19:14:11 -0400 From: "jammax" To: Hi David and fellow weavers: I have been a lurker for a few months now, but have enjoyed every issue of WW that I have received. I get so excited when I see a new WW issue in my mail box. I participated in the basket swap and received a beautiful basket from Marcia Balleweg. It is a double walled basket made in the style of the western Cherokee. It is a basket that I will treasure forever. And to top it off it goes wonderful in my home. I came home to find the little yellow postal slip in my mailbox. I thought, "oh no, my basket was delivered and I wasn't here to get it". Well, it needed a signature so the postal worker couldn't leave it on the porch. So I got in my car to go to the post office to pick it up. As I was leaving the subdivision, the postal truck drove by. So I followed him to his next stop, got out of the car, and asked him if he had my package. He said "yes". I signed for it in the middle of the street, and rushed home to open my treasure. Thank you again Marcia for the beautiful basket. I am going to attempt to use my new propane torch I bought to burn the hairs off my baskets. Up to this point, I have been afraid to see all my hard work go up in flames. I have completed the baskets I have been making for friends, so now I can make some practice baskets (practice, incase they do go up in flames). I have been warned to make sure the baskets are wet before I torch them. Any other suggestions? I am also going to practice using my Scott's Liquid Gold (red can). Up to this point I have left my baskets natural, but would like to put some coating over them to maybe help preserve the parts that are dyed and to save the basket from cracking. I am participating in the Mackinac Bridge Walk this Labor Day weekend with my husband and my mom and dad. Should be fun. We actually get to walk over the Mackinac Bridge. Until next time-- Jill Maxwell Clarkston, Michigan. Where you couldn't have asked for a better Labor Day weekend. Sunny, light breeze, and in the 80's. Now if those Spartans could only win a football game, things would be perfect. GO STATE! {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: inserting handles Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 20:26:48 -0400 From: Winnie Organization: @Home Network Member To: David Collins Hi Weavers, Gretchen asked about inserting door knob and bushel basket handles. The handles have a notch in each "arm". This notch fits between two the rim pieces. You can either put the ends of the handle on the inside or the outside of your basket. If I have a nice pair of ash handles, I like to put them on the outside to show them off, but it's purely a personal decision. If you try to push the ends of the handle through all the rows of weaving, I find that basket gets pulled out of shape, especially if it's a small basket. I secure just the ends of the handle behind one or two rows of weaving only. These rows would be the ones at the very ends of the handle, where the handle isn't as thick. Sticking only the ends of the handles doesn't pull the basket out of shape. This method has worked very well for me. I also have a question, I'm hoping someone can help me. I have Pamela Harrington's pattern for a Welsh Potato Basket. The pattern requires a 12" x 1/2" - 5/8" Rattan Hoop. I have called the phone number on the pattern and was told the number is no longer in service. Does anyone know where can I get this hoop? Also the picture of the basket looks like the round reed and the ribs are white, the hoop is rattan color. How can I accomplish this effect? Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me with this basket. Winnie {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Filling in Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 20:43:30 -0400 From: Preston A Raymer Organization: The Raymers To: "davidc@iei.net" When I saw an old oak ribbed basket I made a point to look at the filling in because I can never get my baskets to look neat either. On this basket, the weaver was narrowed at the points where it went around the ribs on turn backs and the "holes" were not noticeable. I haven't tried this technique yet but I will next time I have to make a rib basket. I entered some baskets in a contest last week and won two first prizes! One was for a quatrefoil cathead and the other was a round reed basket. I was very happy as this was my first contest. I know there are some other weavers words members who won some prizes during CraftAdventure. You should speak up and let everyone know. Kristin- I am with you. I collect laundry! I also like pottery. I was able to get some nice pieces when I lived in Japan that I absolutely treasure. Lesley- I live right next to Springfield in Chicopee. I think it is about 50 miles across the pike (90) to New York. Until later- Christine {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Weavers Words Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:17:29 -0400 From: MYLOIS Organization: Prodigy Internet To: davidc@iei.net Hi All: I have been downloading WW onto a 3.5 floppy disk so I will have my own archive. Enjoyed all the letters. Wish I had time to do the basket swap but I don't. Sounds like you all had fun. I received a little note in the mail today from one of my computer best friends who does stamping. She had stamped a notecard and envelope with fall leaves. It was beautiful. I decided to try to incorporate stamping with my baskets -- stamping a design on a card and possibly giving a brief description of the basket -- its history. So tonight I went out and got some stamps and notecards, etc. I think I could stamp designs on my baskets with the small stamps, too, and then paint the design. Myra Stutler mylois@prodigy.net {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 33 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 09:21:24 -0400 From: jbenner@juno.com To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 HI All, Thanks to all who sent in suggestions for my peanut basket pattern. I now am the proud owner of one of those patterns. Not sure when I'll start that one, but I do have it. Also got a toilet tissue holder, the abundance basket, a tissue (upright) holder, and a set of mini baskets. A question. What causes the stakes to crack as you fold them over at the rim? You know, you cut the inside ones and bend the outside ones. Well they bend but when they are in position they tend to crack. Not totally off, but enough that I am not happy. Bert Comstock, I guess I understand sort of how one would do overlay, but I wonder why would you insert it later instead of a full round of the other color or size? I must be missing something here. If you want a spot of color I can see it, but a whole band? Then can't you just weave a wider weaver into it? What am I missing? I would love to be in on a new basket swap and on the recipe thing if that goes through. Just let me know! (P) To Chrys, I was hypo thyroid (Graves disease) about a year and a half ago. I also was nuked and am fine now. Email me of you want or need to compare. (P) To Bert Comstock, Is this an herbal complex, this glucosamine? I am asthmatic from allergies and worry about taking herbal meds since I am allergic to many of the plants they come from. But I also suffer from carpal tunnel, and a lousy circulation system. Was taking B complexes but then found that can affect your liver after time. Am taking vitamin E also. I spin wool, weave baskets and knit, not necessarily in that order and even the keyboard and mouse bother me. Judy Benner (who joined too late for the last basket swap) jbenner@juno.com {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: re: Peanut Basket & Michigan convention Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 14:16:51 EDT From: BOverlock@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net First, thank you David for the wonderful job you do with WW. I am enjoying getting the issues more often -- hope the work isn't too overwhelming for you. If there is anything any of us can do to help please say so -- we would all hate to lose this. There is a pattern for a divided peanut basket by Toni Rynicke on the Deerfield Peddler. The web address is : www.weavenet.com/Deerfield.html. Someone asked a while back about anyone going to the Michigan conference. I am going -- this is a new first for me -- I am very new to weaving and have no idea what to expect from the whole trip. Anyone with any hints or information I would love to get email regarding this. Barbara in Arizona where it is raining and the temperature won't even be 100 today. YIPPEE!!! {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: Out of Print Books Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:15:43 +0000 From: burnsey2@juno.com (Laurie Burns) To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 I tried to go back and find the name of the person who asked how to access the site I gave for finding out of print books, but no luck, so I will have to respond this way instead of personally. I talked with my antique friend and she said that she went to YAHOO first then entered used books as the category and then she went under book finder. I hope this helps. Thanks for all the suggestions on antique basket books that were given. They have been helpful. I also wanted to thank my basket swap person, Julianne Hill, for the great milk can basket she sent me. I was eagerly awaiting the package and was not disappointed when I opened it. Thanks again Julianne for the great basket and Joy for organizing it! {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:26:46 -0400 From: "Tom Rigterink" To: Hi Everyone David I wish there was something we could all do for you, because you do SO MUCH for us by bringing us together through WW...Thank you just not seem like enough. I have a quick question. I have a show coming in November and would like to be weaving something while I sit...any great suggestions? I know it has to be something small...but I'm brain-dead as to what to bring. Any and all suggestions will be gratefully accepted. Keep weaving!!!! Diane {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: RE: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 32 Date: Sun, 06 Sep 98 15:21:34 Pacific Daylight Time From: ROBIN GRIFFIN To: davidc Hi everyone, I don't write often but enjoy weaver's word so much. I have seen Kay's great nametag that she makes and I am hoping she will teach a class for it at our basket retreat. I also enjoy seeing Sharles Osburn's wonderful baskets. I took a great antler handle basket class from Jill Choate last month and enjoyed the class so much. She is a great lady. My very favorite baskets are from natural materials which we have a lot of in the Pacific Northwest. However the area I am from we don't have any teachers for natural baskets. Most of them are in the Seattle area and I live a long way from there. Keep up the good work. Robin in Washington state by Mt. Ranier {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 32 Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 18:09:57 EDT From: froggestow@juno.com (Roberta R Comstock) To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 "Weavers Words" Vol. 2 Iss. 32 (B): Linda Scoggins - Our local guild recently acquired a number of copies of 'The Basketmaker' and 'The News Basket' magazines, donated by a (former?) member. I checked out several from the guild's 'lending library, and am finding wonderful things in them. I dream of the time when a major publisher comes out with a quality basket magazine that will last beyond the energies of the founding publisher. Carolyn Black - Welcome to weavers words! Would you mind posting some basics IBA information here, please, about where to get the membership forms, how soon one must join to get the convention information mailing, and the dates of the 1999 IBA convention? I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd like to know. Maybe it will save you a lot of individual queries to answer. Was the peanut basket pattern a free handout from that shop? Or did they sell it? I don't know the technically correct answer, but have fewer personal reservations about copying an anonymous free handout. Dee - Sometimes I don't mind having the colors in my baskets dulled by over staining after completion. If I want them to stay bright, I stain or dye all the parts before weaving. I have become less critical of metal pins since seeing some well made Nantucket baskets, but still don't use them myself. I do, once in a while, resort to a dab of glue in an unobtrusive place, and routinely glue the frame ribs into my driftwood baskets. Diane D Vanden Heuvel - Just about any twined basket form you can imagine can be done on a small scale in twined waxed linen thread. I do flat pouches, round pouches and assorted 3D forms. You can also do needle looping with waxed linen. Several dealers offer patterns and kits. Gail Caron - May I suggest February for our next WW basket swap? That would give everybody a month to recover from the Nov-Dec holiday rush and is conveniently 6 months from the one just done during August. That's also about when I start getting really sick of winter and eager for a way to liven things up. (P): Welcome to all the new subscribers. Feel free to jump right in and join the conversations - the more, the merrier! Alice - Although it's admirable not to want to offend people when you voice your opinions, a certain number of people will be offended regardless of what you say. I think we should be free to state opinions, so long as we are not being mean or intentionally trying to hurt someone's feelings. One of the most valuable lessons I learned in Toastmasters was how to give constructive critiques. There really is an art to making positive suggestions without 'whitewashing' (by giving false praise) and without putting down the person. Bert in Independence, MO {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} If for any you would ever like to cancel your subscription, simply send me a message with "unsubscribe" as your subject.