"Weavers Words" Vol. 2 Iss. 21 Compiled By: David Collins Snail Mail: 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 Owned By: Weavers Everywhere Date Sent: August 01, 1998 Subscribers: 701 {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} ***IMPORTANT INFORMATION*** ***PLEASE READ BEFORE PRINTING*** 1.) Highlight entire issue. 2.) Click copy. 3.) Paste issue into a word processor of your choosing. 4.) Now Print. {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} +++++Individual Weaver's Words Pages+++++ Of course you can always find links to each individual page on Weaver's Words home page (http://www.iei.net/~davidc/). 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WOW!!! I have a request for all of you. I entered my cousin in a baby photo contest on the internet. His name is Jace and I would appreciate all of you to go vote. You can vote for whomever you wish, but I think you will all agree Jace is the cutest by far. To vote go to: http://babyzone.com/babyvote.htm Don't forget you can vote once a day. You no longer need a password to access the back issues. Just go to Weaver's Words home page (http://www.iei.net/~davidc/), and select back issues from the menu. The password was causing too many problems. Take Care, David davidc@iei.net {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Macomb, MI Basketry Suppliers/Teachers Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:37:09 -0400 From: donna raymond To: davidc@iei.net Hi everyone- First things first: I know you've heard it many times before, but THANK YOU, DAVID!!!, for all the time and effort put into keeping this list going. I haven't been doing much weaving lately (just went back to work after a 5 year hiatus to be home with the kids), but I love all the information and ideas that I can find on the internet and really look forward to finding Weavers Words in my e-mail box! My reason for "unlurking" is to reply to Kathie Anderson's request for a supplier and teacher in the Macomb, MI area: Kathie- There is a relatively new basketry shop in Clawson that I have heard of (at 14 Mile and Livernois). I believe the name of it is The Basket Place. I hope to make a trip down there to check it out soon since I haven't found any other local basketry suppliers besides Creative Corner in Romeo (good for just the basics: reed, binder, etc.). I believe Eileen Laporte still teaches basketweaving classes through Creative Corner. If you stop by the store, they will add you to their mailing list and send you a schedule of the various classes that they offer. Good Luck! Donna from Shelby Twp., MI draymond@voyager.net {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 19 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 23:25:38 EDT From: froggestow@juno.com (Roberta R Comstock) To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 "Weavers Words" Vol. 2 Iss. 19 Wow David! We're almost up to 700 subscribers. The number seems to be snowballing. I'm sure glad you're keeping the ball rolling for us! Thanks again and again. Cheryl VanDeVeer - I know what you mean about hating to finish a good book. I love it when I find a prolific author I like. I also used to keep some natural items in my office cubicle - wild turkey feathers & interesting pods in a little basket-vase, a 'corn dollie' made of woven wheat, & a few special stones. The biologist on the other side of my divider used locust thorns in lieu of pins or tacks to post clippings on his side. (Saw a good array of wheat weavings in a gift shop on the Kansas Turnpike south of Wichita last week.) Your cattail & tule basket sounds really neat. Yet another technique to try. :=) Yes, please send David the Thousand Oaks shelter picture to post. Are you familiar with the bullboats and curraghs that have willow basketry frames? I think the construction method began much as if you were making a small shelter frame. Only after the shape was set, the ends of the willows that had been stuck in the ground were cut off and the frame was covered with rawhide instead of tules. There's a good book on plaiting hats and handbags from raffia or other soft materials. I'll post the title and author when I find my copy. Dee in Sunny Hot Florida - I agree with you in feeling uncomfortable about obvious rip-offs of patterns. We had quite a bit of discussion about similar things a number of months back (maybe late last year). I don't buy a lot of patterns, but the ones I go for are the obviously unique ones. I don't find patterns necessary for many of the standard shapes and sizes of baskets. Linda Boyle-Gibson - Thanks for the information about Rit Dye mixing and their color matching service. Betty Kourkounakis - And thank you for the info about Rit bulk orders. Pamela Woodbury - Sorry about your horrible show experience. Yukkk! Thanks for the warnings! Hope your next one goes much better. Can you deduct all those expenses on your next tax return? I sure hope so! Lynn Pawley - Thank you for posting the basket photo request for publication. How exciting! Lois - Glad you're healing & that rabies isn't in Hawaii. I was worried about that. Would you consider splitting the outrageous shipping cost with that company? I certainly don't think you should have to pay for their mistake, but maybe a token share would make them feel better. Diane Vanden Heuvel - I like the idea of fall colors for varigated reed. Maybe I can get Woven Circle to try that at our dye party in September. Bert Comstock Breathing easier in Independence, MO since a cool front moved in. (And we've had several days with nice gentle rain, for a change) (Not counting the one night of dramatic thunderstorms) {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: response to Susan Reed- Fanfoni Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:55:12 -0500 From: "Jon and Susan Vogel" To: Hi! Though I have spent a lot of time lurking in the background I finally decided to come out in the open after reading Susan's question regarding take-off's on other people's patterns. The conclusion I have come up with is that if it looks like the original author's pattern, it is her pattern! Awhile back, a take-off was done on one of my patterns. After doing a little investigating, I was told that if the pattern is changed 20% that satisfies the copyright laws. To me however, I felt that changing the # of rows, or the size of the reed made no real difference if when looking at the basket it still looks for all intent and purposes like the original. People in general have a moral and ethical responsibility to respect the work of others. As an author what gives you the most satisfaction is when you come up with a pattern that is totally out of your head, and it's a basket that pleases others to make. I don't know. That's my two cents for what it's worth! Tomorrow I'm off to enjoy a much-needed vacation! I'll be interested to read what the rest of you think when I return! Keeping Cool in Wisconsin, Susan Vogel {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: RE: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 20 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:23:04 -0400 From: Susan Tripp To: "'David Collins'" Hello everyone, Susi Nuss: Suny Cobleskill is a little east of where I am, and I am not familiar with that area. If you are coming farther west in NY, I would definitely suggest a stop through Ithaca. The waterfalls are breathtaking and all over Ithaca! Ithaca is also at the beginning of several great wine tasting trails up the finger lakes. If you like the outdoors and hiking, I would suggest Watkins Glen and a visit to their state park to walk the gorge (awesome views)! Watkins Glen is also hosting Bud at the Glen (racing) in August. If you are into music, Ithaca offers some of the best concerts year round with Ithaca College and Cornell University. Here are some sites to help you out: http://www.ithacatimes.com and http://www.ithaca.ny.us/commerce/ and http://www.watkinsglen.com Susan Reed-Fanfoni: Are you going to the Ithaca High School reunion? My husband graduated from there in '72. I'm from the Binghamton area originally. I would love to meet (weaving session?) on one of your stops here. I'm actually between Cortland and Ithaca in Dryden, but that's close enough. I am going to be out of town this weekend but perhaps we can get together on a future stop in Ithaca. There are a few weavers around here - I can think of maybe six in Ithaca, but weavers in our area tend to be the opposite of everyone here on WW who share their ideas, tips and tricks. Okay, I am finally giving in to the curiosity of the issue of RIT dyes. I've been using Basket Tree powder dyes and I love them. Has anyone used them before and is now using RIT? What are the differences and would you suggest switching? Kay Ames: You saint you! My thinking would be that any child over the age of five should know better about picking up "something" that didn't belong to him and cutting it. Although I know you did the right thing, I would not have been able to contain myself. :( A question on antique baskets: I am forever scouting out the antique stores for old baskets to collect. I recently came across this dealer who had about two dozen "old" baskets. I was like a kid in a candy store and wanted each one. However, I did go home and consult my "Baskets" book by Nancy Schiffer, and "The Basket Collectors Book" by Lew Larason. The baskets I found look like the ones in both of those books - but how can you tell? This dealer did have about 1/3 to 1/2 of his baskets marked low which told me he knew they weren't old and wasn't trying to pass them off as old. The others were all around 70-100 dollars which is an average rate for old baskets in this area. Is there anyway to tell if they are truly old? I've seen baskets made to look old, and I can pick them out in a minute. But these, I just don't know. It has gone back up to the mid 80's here (yeah!), but we are going back to the 70's for the weekend. It has been a beautiful summer at any temperature here. I live closest to McLean NY but my address is Freeville and we live in the Town of Dryden. Since no one has heard of these areas, I say I'm between Cortland and Ithaca which are areas some have heard of. So, sometimes it's just easier to say: Susan from upstate NY :) {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 20 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:37:42 EDT From: Sandybsk@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net American Basket/Gifts, dba MS Creations is pleased to announce their new web sitewww.bewley.net/mscreations Please feel free to visit the site, order or just send us your comments. The web site is up and running but there are a few errors that will be corrected. Enjoy and hope to hear from you. MS Creations {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 19 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:13:02 -0400 From: "E.W. Clark" To: "David Collins" Hello to all of you! I am in high spirits, as my Marine husband has returned home safely from the deployment, and in the morning we are heading off for a well deserved 2 week vacation back "home" in Maine. I wanted to let you know that the address for my web site has FINALLY been put in place, you can now access my web page (for the Addicted To Baskets Book) at www.basketaddiction.com. For those of you who have the book, if you click the Tips Ticks, & Things to Know, there is a complete list (not too long, fortunately) of corrections if you click the file folder link. I will be back August 10, and will fill any book orders that have arrived during my absence. If you order while I am gone, be aware it will take a little longer to get it into your hands. I am getting ready to send it off for a second printing, so if any of you find any typos, please email me and let me know. Karen- Thanks for the great note. It's because of your email I even remembered I wanted to send this off to WW to let people know. I am glad you are so happy with the book. Thanks for the kind words. I have to go finish packing... Betsy Clark {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 20 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 16:25:26 EDT From: DeeGrin@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net I recently spent a whole evening, going through stacks of Weaver's Words, Saving important ideas that every one is so willing to share. What a great bunch of people!! Bert, you had asked in April about pictures of Leanoard Niehues baskets. They are featured in the spring issue of Shuttle, Spindle and Dyepot. They are really beautiful baskets, such talent, now that is ART in basketry!!! The enitre magazine mentioned and showed basketry throughout. It is put out by the Handweaver's Guild of America. Bert, you sound like a very caring person. If you weren't a nurse or in the counseling field you missed your calling. In reading over past issues, it really stands out how much time you spend responding to the weavers. I always stop at my favorite quilt shop on the way to my Mothers and recently stopped by and showed them some of my new baskets( they always ask me to bring them by for them to see) Well the three ladies that work there ordered 10 of my baskets. What a delightful surprise!!! They loved the Chinese cookie cooler by Barbara Morton which i stained with walnut stain and green ribbon reed. I think this will be a great Christmas gift with cookies etc. in it. Thanks again David for bringing so many basket weavers and interesting people together. Dee in Sunny HOT Florida {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 16:55:38, -0500 From: BDKE97B@prodigy.com (MRS BILLIE A DORRIS) To: davidc@iei.net Susan, don't let the customers intimidate you. The first thing I usually say to them is that I do make all of these baskets myself and that starts the conversation. I really work at selling them. I don't do a hard sell or push but I have found that if you explain what goes into one they are more likely to spend the money on something that they think they understand. But you are right that those who buy the imports are unlikely to buy from you. I have found the best thing to demonstrate is a Nantucket, mainly because it doesn't take up a lot of space or materials. Once I have it started I can basically weave it in my lap if I have to, The waxed linen miniatures are another thing to demonstrate with. I have found a new book. (Just what I need). There was a review of it in Maine Antique Digest. It is called The Art of the Creel" by Hugh Chatham and Dan McClain. It is basically a picture book of fishing creels. Some of them are magnificent esp. the Indian ones-even one of baleen. It is a very expensive ($85) coffee table type book but the pictures are wonderful. The descriptions of the types of weave are actually correct so they have obviously done their homework. The last chapter is on Contemporary Creels and talks of a collector who is also a basket maker. His name is Daryll Whitehead and says that he took a basket weaving class from Debbie McClelland of Seattle so now makes his own. Try to see if you can find a copy of the book somewhere so you can at least enjoy the pictures. Fishing creels are a collectible in themselves and quite costly. I couldn't find the book in any of the local stores of course and Barnes and Noble didn't even have it in their date base(Amazon either). I finally ordered it direct from the Publisher, Blue Heron Press in Ennis, Montana. I have finally finished by driftwood/art masterpiece. I really love it but spent almost as much time taking out as I did weaving until I got it like I wanted. The baby seagrass really goes well with driftwood. Those of you who haven't checked out Susi Nuss's web site are missing quite a treat. I emailed her that I wanted one of everything pictured but would have to win the lottery first. With enough cash (around four grand you can even have a Purse by Jose Reyes) I have met several people in this area who have one of his and one woman didn't have a clue. Said hers was in her kids "costume/dress up box" After talking with me I suspect it has been rescued. Best get back to work. Billie in Va. Beach Va. {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 20 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 19:50:29 -0400 From: deedee1@mail.apcnet.com (Kathleen Fullerton) To: David Collins References: 1 I know that there are many military family members in our little weaving community. My husband came home tonight and told me that his next assignment will be at Ft. Polk, LA. Does anyone have any input (good or bad) about the place? Are there any weavers in the area? Sorry to take up WW space with this, but I need all the info I can get. Thanks in advance, Kathy Fullerton In Fayetteville NC (for a few more months) trying to get RIT aubergine out of her weaving towels {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Information Needed Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 07:08:35 -0400 From: Carolyn & Lewis Megginson To: David Collins Morning all from Sunny Hot Va., Seems like I have been asking for help a lot here lately. I haven't been able to secure the Rit Dye Chart. I am especially interested in a Williamsburg Blue color. I have tried all the basket dye blues and none are quite right. Country Blue was nice a few years ago but seems to have changed formula. Country Blue in Rit comes out a nice shade of teal. Have a nice tote worked with this color but still looking for Williamsburg Blue. Please Help. Does anyone know Bill Schrader and how he is doing? I really miss his site and hope he is doing OK. Getting ready for the Watermelon Festival in NC. Suppose to rain some, hope just rain and not storms. Can't complain about rain in this heat and drought condition. Someone was talking about Faith Rollins site. Found this and really nice stencils but are any in the 1 1/2" size range? I have found some nice brass stencils but can't use while strip is on basket because they do not bend. It is really nice to have somewhere to go to when help is needed. I Thank all of you. Carolyn of Suffolk {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Weaver's Words Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:41:07 -0400 From: "joym" To: HELLOooooo Everybody, UPDATE ON BASKET SWAP: I have received over 60 sign-ups as of this writing! You still have time to join in! Just e-mail me by midnight (EST) Saturday August 1st. I wrote many people brief notes, but not all. I will be getting back in touch with each of you next week, after all the names are in. I will be RANDOMLY drawing names & will send you the name & address of the person you are weaving for. PLEASE DO NOT CONTACT THAT PERSON until AFTER they have received their basket. We're going for the maximum surprise! The deadline for mailing is SEPTEMBER 1st. You do have a full month to weave, so take as much of that time as you need and HAVE FUN!!!! Someone mentioned John McGuire. Did you know he has a website? You guessed it www.johnmcguire.com Yes, last I saw him he did have the beard. What a wild & funny guy. So much fun to do a class with! Susan: I have seen several patterns posted to the net that are OBVIOUS close copies of original patterns. If the text of the original is changed, & the new "author" has changed a row or two, it looks like these people can get away with it. However, there is always the question of ethics & morals here. As my lawyer once told me, "One person's ethics are not another person's ethics." And that's for sure! There are some folks who appear to build their whole businesses on the find it, copy it, put it out as their own approach. How sad that they lack the originality and confidence to design and write their own patterns! One last note: My husband & I are having our anniversary on August 2nd, so you won't get your Swap person's contact info. till next week. I will probably spread the 60+ e-mails over several days, but who knows, maybe I'll get ambitious! Joy Moody Sign of the Crow www.signofthecrow.com Hampden, Maine where it is hot & muggy & rain is due {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Weavers Words V.2 I.20 Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:52:55 -0700 From: "Deb Curtis, Tisket Tasket Basket" To: Hi all Summer seems to go so fast! My study group is getting ready for a group show in a window in the area so have been busy with signs, tags, etc. I'm weaving my fingers off for the teacher's marketplace at the AMB conference in Oct. and for holiday shows. David - The graphics are wonderful! Keep up the fantastic work. Pam W. - Sorry to hear about that show. I generally try to attend a show before I apply to see how its laid out and what the promoters are letting in. You could write a letter to the Chamber to let them know your disappointment and feelings but sometimes that feels like you're dwelling on the negatives. On the other hand, if they don't get any feedback then there will never be a change. One of the things being discussed in The Crafts Report is trying to get jurying to be more consistent. Each show though has its own priorities though so that makes it a little harder. Another thing being discussed though is having the jury slides all being labeled the same. Any opinions anyone? Susi - The site is great! Keep up the good work. In response to your request for information about bamboo there is The Book of Bamboo by David Farrelly. It shows some techniques but not truly how to prepare it for basketry. I believe one of the Basketmaker magazines goes through the processing techniques too. I know that Jiro Yonezawa buys his bamboo pretty well processed then does a little refining and it's great to work with. Also Shereen LaPlantz's address is LaPLantz Studios, PO Box 160, Bayside, CA 95524 (707)839-9544. I regularly get her mailings and she is completely into book making and construction. Susan Reed-Fanfoni - Oh what a question. All I can say is that a recipe can be changed by adding one more item or different quantities of spices and be considered a "new" recipe. I personally feel that a basket needs to be significantly changed (and what exactly that term means is up for interpretation) to be considered a "new" pattern. It might be best to contact the original pattern writer and explain the situation to them. Are you really changing the basket and adding something unique to it or are you just changing the size? An example might be a two-stair step basket and then a three stair step basket. They seem to be quite different so they need their own patterns. Would like to hear others opinions on this. Must go - remember if you are going to try for the Certificate of Excellence in Basket Weaving this judging your application needs to be in by September 1st. Happy Weaving! Deb Curtis is finally cooler (80's) Oregon {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 20 Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 20:42:32 EDT From: JDDCNICK@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Hi everyone, For Susan Reed-Fanfoni and everyone--I would like to respond to your question about one pattern resembling another's pattern in many ways. I have been weaving (and collecting patterns--lots!!) for about 14 years. Just recently I have noticed many patterns that bear a real resemblance to patterns that I have purchased in the past. I have thought about this and I certainly hope that no one is deliberately copying someone else's work. Has anyone else out there noticed this at all? Susi -- Your website is wonderful. I spent over an hour there just last night. I will return often as you have so much to offer. Thanks. Donna -- from Michigan where the weather is wonderful for sleeping. Cool and less humid. {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: MI suppliers / teachers Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:06:14 -0400 From: donna raymond To: davidc@iei.net Hi again- This is for Kathie Anderson: I just went to The Basket Place in Clawson and found out the shop just closed because the owner is retiring and moving down south (sound familiar?). I guess I was about a week too late! Let me know if you find another local basketry shop. Thanks! Donna Raymond Shelby Twp., MI {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: hi! Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:16:12 -0700 From: "Steve Catsos" To: Hi fellow basketmakers! I've been lurking for some time and was encouraged by a friend (thanks Eileen!) to write. I'm JoAnn Kelly Catsos and I've been weaving for 13 years. I began weaving and teaching reed baskets, but now I'm quite addicted to black ash, with miniatures being my specialty. I teach my original designs for guilds and at conventions around the country. I'm currently President of the Northeast Basketmakers Guild. We have guild events in the Connecticut & Massachusetts area and publish a great newsletter (thanks to Dianne Stanton and Judy Olney). Anyone who wants more details of guild events (or a copy of my Country Baskets black ash catalog) just e-mail me at catsos@bcn.net Susi Nuss - The little swing handle basket you described sounds a lot like the work of Alice Ogden, a black ash basketmaker from New Hampshire. There was a nice article about Alice in the latest Basket Shop News (formerly the Martha Wetherbee Basket Shop News). I don't know about the "old" look of the basket, but the shape sounds familiar. Also... your mining co basket web site is great! Keep up the good work! Amy ?? - Your phrase "Baskets Forever...Housework Whenever" hangs proudly on my mantle in the form of a counted cross-stitch sampler. I even had buttons made with that motto on it. Amen!! Happy Weaving! JoAnn from the hot & sticky Berkshire mountains in Massachusetts {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: pine needles Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:33:48 -0500 From: "Susan Waite" To: Once again I have some pine needles that I will sell. They are approximately 9-12 inches in length. They are $10.00 plus $3.00 S/H per pound. Also I now have black walnut slices for 25 cents each. If interested please contact me at prinet@iswt.com Thanks, and keep up the good work David, Susan prinet@iswt.com {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Harford County fair Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 00:26:57 -0700 From: edwinb@erols.com To: "\"Weavers Words\"" Hi All Basket Friends, If you are anywhere near Md. come over to the Harford County Fair this weekend ( hope this isn't too late) and see the baskets in the Deer Creek Basketry Guild tent. Some lovely work. Has anyone seem the Boy Scout Merit Badge book on basketry? I ask at used book stores and antique shops; apparently boy scout stuff quite collectable. To Cary Ray; I did meet a basket teacher who told her students to use up all pieces even if meant over lapping more than once in a row. She didn't have any scraps; I guess you could be really neat and careful to do good looking overlap; I prefer not to do it; that's why I have a closet full of little pieces; Ill use them up some day! Nancy Of Glen Arm, Md. {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Aloha! Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:12:09 -1000 From: The Keener Clan To: davidc@iei.net Aloha everybody! Thanks (or mahalo in Hawaiian) to everybody who responded to the sleigh pattern question. It seems that Mary Skillings is the one, so as soon as I return from Maui I will order the pattern. I*m excited about weaving something so beautiful!! Both my printers are down (when it rains, it pours, even in Hawaii) so I*m reading WW line by line until next week (when the computer is upgraded and I can hook up more stuff) and I can*t remember who asked about the stuff from the pandanus tree. I do believe it is called Lauhala. Gratiot Lake Basketry sells lauhala and a book called "The Craft of Hawaiian Lauhala Weaving" which might help out. I don*t weave with it as preparation of the lauhala is time consuming, intimidating, and I am happy weaving American traditional baskets. The lauhala has to be cleaned, dethorned, flattened--and those who I know who use it have made boxes (about 10" long) with one end containing many small pieces of wood. Razor blades are inserted between the wood pieces and the lauhala is pulled between the blades to cut it to certain widths. A lot of the lauhala baskets available in Hawaii (the ones the tourists buy) are imports from Singapore and other countries... Again, thanks for the pattern info. Lois (where it is pretty warm in Honolulu.) {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Re: Basket Books Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 08:29:39 PDT From: "Kay Janke" To: davidc@iei.net Hello Weavers: My husband & I went to a Steam & Antique Tractor Show yesterday. I go to the antique/flea market area & spend the majority of my time browsing there. To my delight, I found some basket books and for all those markets I have gone to, it was a rare find. The book that I had just taken out recently at the library by John McGuire-"Old New England Splint Baskets", was the first thing I noticed, luckily it was on top of a stack of books. A magazine "Americana" that has some interesting articles, including 'Learning How Shakers Made Baskets'. This features Martha Weatherbee in the article. Great colored pictures in both the book & magazine. And also wonderful instructions on harvesting a tree & making the splints. I was so surprised to see these books at this booth, mostly antiques, dishes & lots of iron things. (Bought my husband a chest full of nuts & bolts there too.) It was so heavy that it took 3 men to load it. I also found a book on making Pine Needle Baskets, Lamp Shades, Trays, etc. It has great illustrations of all the stitches & explanations on how to do a number of items. The books don't look used at all, although I think someone had looked at the Pine Needle book. They are in great shape & they were a good buy. Can't wait to go to the next show, but don't dare tell husband or friends that I am going mainly for the antique/flea market. What I have been looking for at these shows were antlers, old baskets & the Pillsbury Bake-Off books. So far this summer I have found two baskets & one set of antlers that I didn't care for, so left them there. The baskets are both in great shape. One is a large Oriole type basket, the other is a very nice shaped basket, fanned out at the top, that looks like a potted plant might set in it. And there is always the question when I bring something home-where will it fit??? To all: Does anyone know if the magazine 'Americana' is still being published? The one I found is from 1985. In one of the books was an article (torn from Country Home magazine) about 'The Shaker Basket'. It also has Martha Wetherbee in the article. We are members of an Antique Tractor & Engine Club. This show is held in September in South Haven, Michigan. The show has crafts, flea/antique market, displays of every kind, including tractors, engines, some working with displays, a working sawmill, blacksmith, huge engines, tractor races, pedal pull for the kids, concessions of every kind, entertainment every night & much more. People come from all over the US and many camp there for the length of the show. It is a great form of entertainment for the whole family. I can always find something at a flea market, but at our show I rarely have time to go check it out. If anyone is interested, send me your snail & I will send you a flyer w/information. I am finishing up a class with the 4-H kids this coming week & starting another class for another group. Had 9 in the other class & should have about 7 in this next one. They will be taking their baskets to the fair later in August. Hope everyone is finding some time to weave. Regards from Southwestern Michigan where the weather has cooled down & is in the 70 - 80's and very comfortable, sometimes in the 50's at night. Now I am going to find a little spot to put my new treasures!!! Kay Janke Near the Twin Cities of Benton Harbor-St. Joseph, Michigan {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: KBA Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 09:37:55 -0400 From: Preston A Raymer Organization: The Raymers To: "davidc@iei.net" To Jean Cadmus May - You said you were going to teach a class in KY. Is this something to do with the KBA? I have been trying to get some info on the KBA. Can you help me out? I would actually like to know anything you could tell me about weaving events in KY. It is almost time for the basket exchange. Is everybody ready? Talk to you all later. Christine Raymer {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} Subject: Weavers Words Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 16:12:42 EDT From: Charweav@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net David, I hope I'm doing this right! This message is for the Weavers Words Bulletin. It's great to see all the basket weavers staying in contact and sharing all these great ideas. I have tried for awhile to receive WW but I am on AOL and cannot get it. I finally spent most of the afternoon reading back issues. I have an announcement about the WINTER WEAVE Conference. Winter Weave '99 will be held Feb. 26, 27 and 28, 1999. Teachers this year are Patti Hawkins, Donna Carlson, Tressa Sularz, Dianne Stanton, Jim Rutherford, Judith Olney, Cass Schorsch, Susan Coyle, Mary Hetts, Brenda Traffis, and Ann Bowers. Winter weave is held in Mentor Ohio which is 30 minutes east of Cleveland, If you would like a brochure, please email me with your address. Charweav@aol.com Pam- I recently did a show that had a cheap Longanberger style basketmaker. All he had to do when he was low on stock was open the back of his trailer and haul out a hundred more. It is not fun watching all those cheap, flimsy basket walk out of the show when you sat for months making, dying and staining your own handmade baskets. Very frustrating. Char Ciammaichella Charweav@aol.com {*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*}{*}-{*} If for any you would ever like to cancel your subscription, simply send me a message with "unsubscribe" as your subject.