"Weavers Words" Vol. 2 Iss. 120 Date Sent: April 26, 1999 Web Page: http://www.iei.net/~davidc/ Subscribers: 1022 David Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 317-899-5747 davidc@iei.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Do You Like Weavers Words? Click Below To "Recommend-It" To A Friend! http://recommend-it.com/l.z.e?s=210339 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% "Web Cards" - Create Full-Color Postcards For Your Web Page. http://www.printing.com/affiliate.asp?site=davidc For every free sample of "Web Cards" that you request from the above link, I will receive a $1 commission. It cost you NOTHING. Once you receive your free sample, you can purchase personalized "Web Cards" for your web page and/or business if you like. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Lots-o-stuff Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 02:14:00 +0000 From: Tony Stubblefield or Dean Meredith To: David Collins/Weavers Words Lois - Ribbed basket from Germany - I am not able to envision what you are trying to describe. On a "typical" ribbed basket using 2 round hoops, you would have the two hoops crossing perpendicular to each other such that one would be horizontal (the rim) and the other vertical (the handle and center rib). Ok, so where is this 3rd half hoop coming into play? Donna and everyone - While you are correct, it is copyright infringement to photocopy something and sell it or give it away., it is legal to copy something "for archival purposes". This means that if you own, let say, a book of patterns or directions, you can legally make a copy to use (i.e. so that the original doesn't get wet and ruined). BUT, you are not allowed to sell or give away these copies. They are for your own personal use only. I hope this make sense and is not going to confuse anyone. Donna, I understand the situations you are referring to, I just don't want everyone totally paranoid now about ever making a photocopy. Janet H - Black or Brown ash in TN - You are in the part of the country where white oak is king. I don't think suitable brown ash grows in the Midwest or south. Moonweaver Chrys - Birch bark containers - I say yes they are original because YOU made them. Lin - Lashing rims - I think I understand how you are starting and I do it that way most of the time. I am assuming you end the same way, by going up under the outside rim so that the beginning and ending tails are sticking up next to each other between the two rims. My suggestion would be to try not to pull so tightly on the first "loop". Hopefully that won't pull up on your flat rim. Also, I do lash from the outside to the inside, so I can see the space I am trying to feed the lasher through and I mover counter clockwise (to the right). Denise in Tulsa, who is left handed, made me think of something. If any of you are left-handed do you tell your weaving teachers first? If you don't, please start. I don't think to ask most of the time and I will just start everybody off weaving, only to find out (too late) that someone is left-handed. It isn't a problem for me to teach someone who is left handed, but if I don't know they can sure have a terrible time if I have them going the wrong (right-handed) way on a continuous weave basket. Tony In St. Louis, MO http://www.tetranet.net/users/deanandtony/baskets.htm %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Friends Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:11:31 -0700 From: "Anne Boquist" To: "Weaver's Words" This was sent to me so I'm sending it along to all my weaver friends. The Fence There once was a little boy who had a bad temper. His father gave him a bag of nails and told him that every time he lost his temper, he must hammer a nail into the back of the fence. The first day the boy had driven 37 nails into the fence. Over the next few weeks, as he learned to control his anger, the number of nails hammered daily gradually dwindled down. He discovered it was easier to hold his temper than to drive those into the fence. Finally the day came when the boy didn't lose his temper at all. He told his father about it and the father suggested that the boy now pull out one nail for each day that he was able to hold his temper. The days passed and the young boy was finally able to tell his father that all the nails were gone. The father took his son by the hand and to the fence. He said, "You have done well, my son, but look the holes in the fence. The fence will never be the same. When you say things in anger, they leave a scar just like this one. You can put a knife in a man and draw it out. It won't matter how many times you say I'm sorry, the wound is still there. A verbal wound is as bad as a physical one. Friends are a very rare jewel, indeed. They make you smile and encourage you to succeed. They lend an ear, they share a word of praise, and they always want to open their hearts to us. Show your friends how much you care. Send this to everyone you consider a FRIEND even if it means sending back to the person who sent it to you. It's National Friendship Week. Friends are a very rare jewel, indeed. They make you smile and encourage you to succeed. They lend an ear, they share a word of praise, and they always want to open their heart to us. Show your friends how much you care. Send this to everyone you consider a FRIEND. If it comes back to you, then you'll know you have a circle of friends. HAPPY FRIENDSHIP WEEK !!!!!!!!! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 117 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:55:08 -0500 From: Roberta R Comstock To: davidc@iei.net "Weavers Words" Vol. 2 Iss. 117 Pattie Bagley - I'm not especially athletic these days, but I used to do a fair amount of whitewater canoeing. Way back in Jr. High I was a high jumper. And I pitched on a women's softball team for part of one season (Had to move away from there when my then husband returned from 'Nam). Leigh in Laurinburg, NC - The two patterns I have with Gretchen borders are Lora Khouri's 'Welcome Home Basket' and Gerda 'JODI' Shebester's 'Hospitality Basket'. Jodi calls it a rolled border. I got both of these at the MO convention in '97, Lora's in a class, and Jodi's from a vendor. Don't know who carries them. "moonweaver" - Your strychnine/LSD post has all the symptoms of being and urban legend or outright hoax. What reliable backup sources do you have for that story? Unless you've got some hard facts, not just hearsay, it simply amounts to more spam in the system and a lot of unnecessary hysteria. Your failure to sign your post doesn't help your credibility, either. Please, Everybody, Don't forward rumors to this or any other list! Sue Bajczyk - Thanks for the notice that the May swap is full. I don't know whether I'm next on the list to coordinate, but if I am, I'd be willing to run a July swap. (Guess there's no rush for me to email you now to sign up, so I'll have plenty of time to come up with a basket for next time.) I'm glad there are a lot of people participating. Good luck and have fun! Sue Ann Boitnott - Congratulations on your successful initiation into the ranks of willow teachers! Rob Sutherland - Wow! The oak swill sounds terrific! I can hardly wait to see your pictures! My understanding of rattan is that it is a rapidly growing, somewhat weedy vine. I doubt if the quantities that are harvested by hand are going to have a detrimental effect on the jungle environment. I'd like to hear more from someone who has first-hand information, though. Bert Comstock Independence, MO %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Call for Tolerance Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 11:42:40 -0400 From: "joym" To: CC: O.K. fellow weavers. I'm giving in & posting a non-basket related message. With all the crazy stuff going on in the world today, tolerance is needed more than ever. Most of us recognize that there are many religions, races, cultures, traditions & value systems in this world. I support each of us in our personal choice of those practices which express what we believe & what our roots are. I do not, however, think that telling EVERYONE to pray to JESUS gives any recognition to the freedom of choice. And, I do not think that the rigidity of seeing only ONE answer ("the only answer") allows much freedom to accept the diversity which exists on this planet. I have, just this morning, seen a post on another list which criticizes multiculturalism (now, by the way, a required course of study for all mental health & social work professionals). Since when are we so intolerant of everyone & anything that is different than us? Anyone whose beliefs are different? Anyone, I dare say, who did not grow up in a WASP community? The founding fathers gave us certain rights. Religious freedom was one of them. People came to this land to escape persecution, not recreate it all over again in the name of ONE way, "the only way". Please! How can we EVER expect to teach our children tolerance when we express so little of it ourselves. How can we ever hope to understand others when we demand that they fit our mold, "the only answer" mold. Guess what: God created diversity in nature & in mankind. And, as the saying goes, "God don't make junk!" Joy %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 119 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 11:11:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Cathy Sullivan Wucher To: David Collins Lin Karrels - About your flat reed rim problem, my guess would be that the reed you are using is too wide for the size of the hidden rim row. For example, if the top row of your basket (the row that is hidden under the rim) is 3/8 FF you should use 1/2 FF for the rim. When you add the sea grass, the width of the sea grass and the 3/8 is just about perfect. If you are using 5/8 with the 3/8 rim row, there is too much "extra" reed that then has a tendency to bend. When I lash, I work from the inside - out. I get a tighter lash this way but it does take longer. I weave for the enjoyment of weaving. I don't sell baskets but do give a lot of them away! Many basket weavers start and stop their lasher different ways. There is no right or wrong method. I like the following method because it gives a very finished look. I didn't create this, I'm not taking any credit (or blame if you don't like it). I doubt that the weaver that first came up with this method is still alive, but if you think it was your original idea, whomever you are, please don't start another name calling fiasco!! This is long, I've reread through it and can't make it any shorter! Picture a market basket and you're looking at it from the wide side. 1. Outside rim starts adjacent to the handle on the right hand side and wraps to the right. I usually have an overlap of about 3 inches but of course on a smaller basket, it would be less. Let it be a little bit long, trim it later. 2. Inside rim starts adjacent to the handle (same side of the basket) BUT it's on the left-hand side of the handle and wraps to the left. 3. Don't forget the sea grass or other medium between the rims - this is important, the sea grass starts on the same spoke that the lasher starts on, leave it about 1/2 inch too long (both ends) and trim it later. **What you have now is the rim attached with clothes pins, clamps, electricties or whatever you prefer, it originates from the same side of the basket, on different sides of the handle. This is where it gets hard to explain! You're still looking at the side of the basket where the rims overlap. 4. Start the lasher at the first cut spoke to the right of the handle, just past the overlap. (Yep, this is harder than I thought!) Pretend that the sea grass isn't there for this first step, it won't be under the first lash, just let it stick up. 5. From the outside, go up under the rim row, (don't pull the lasher all the way through, you're working with about the first 5 inches) then back down to the outside of the rim row (but inside the rim itself). It's like you are making a stitch that will be hidden. Pull it down about two inches, so that it's tight and then slide both pieces of lasher to the left and let it set between those two spokes. 6. Now you're ready to lash, the long piece is outside the basket, you will lash to the right, keeping the lashing tight (which is a whole other subject!!) 7. When you get almost all the way around and you've reached the point where you're just to the left of your starting handle, and the inside rim is at the overlap, trim the rim overlap at an angle that matches the angle of the lasher. Not too long, just so that the rim peaks outside the lasher a little bit. 8. Continue past the handle, when you get to where the outside rim ends, trim it to match the angle of the lasher, again not too long. 9. You have one or two more to lash, when you back to where you started (see that piece of lasher just hanging there!) you're last lash will come out in the same space where you started. 10. Tighten up one last time, this is your last chance! 11. Again picture this as if you were making a stitch, you'll have to pull the starting end to the right to get it out of your way. The end that you've been using goes up under the rim (pull tight) over the rim row then back down to the inside of the basket between the rim row and the rim. 12. You should have the two ends of sea grass sticking up looking like they don't know where to go. Trim the one on the right so that it will go under the lash and you won't see the end. Trim the left one and tuck it in under that same lash. You can slide that lash a bit then move it back over to hid the cut pieces of sea grass. 13. Almost finished! Pull the inside lasher down tight, trim as close to the rim as you can. Pull the outside piece of lasher and trim as close to the rim as you can. 14. Viola' you have now lashed the basket and with a little practice, you won't be able to tell where it starts or stops! Let me know how this works for you, if you have any questions send them tome, I don't always have the time to read all the WW issues. If anyone else starts and stops this way and can explain it better, please do! Cas Wucher cwucher@mail.win.org %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Gretchen for Lefties Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 11:20:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Cathy Sullivan Wucher To: David Collins Denise in Oklahoma - try this to weave the Gretchen border to the left instead of the right, when you pick up the first three spokes and it says to start with the one to the left..... hold the spokes in your right hand, start with the one to the right, then just do the same thing, working around to the left instead of the right. Everything is basically the same. Give it a try! Cas Wucher cwucher@mail.win.org %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 119 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:41:44 -0700 From: Naomi Paquette To: David Collins References: 1 Hi David and fellow weavers, Susan in NY - I have that magazine. Shuttle Spindle & Dyepot. I would be more than happy to send scans to David but I'm not sure it is legal. Maybe someone could tell me, if it is ok I'll do it. Everyone should see those baskets they are beautiful. Every time I get one of the volumes there is something in it of interest. Naomi in Sunny Florida %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: left handers Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:49:35 -0400 From: Winnie Organization: @Home Network Member To: David Collins Hi Weavers, Denise asked about directions for left handers. I have a friend who is a left handed weaver. Most of the time she has no problem with weaving. When she comes across a problem I read the directions to her and whenever it says "left " in the directions, I say, "right", and I substitute "right" when it says "left" in the directions. This has always worked for us. Hope it works for you. Winnie, in beautiful, sunny Connecticut. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 119 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:05:19 -0400 From: "Gail Caron" To: "David Collins" Hi David and WW'ers - I have just read WW issue 119 and had a few things that I would like to respond to. Lois - The rib basket you described sounds like the grandmother basket. I have never made one, but have seen the one which Mary Carty made. Looked like too much work for me. And definitely not for $50.00. The Country Seat has a pattern for it by Misti Washington I think. Susan Tripp - The notice for the most recent basket swap indicated that the cutoff date for signing up was April 30th, but the swap was limited to the first 100 who enrolled. So if the limit was reached before April 30th, it only made sense to stop taking signups since the swap was closed. Coordinating a swap is very time consuming and involves a lot of work. First, all of the names and addresses have to be compiled in some way, a method of pairing participants must be devised, and then email messages sent to all swap members. While all of this is being done, the coordinator is inundated with questions (most of which were answered in the original posting of the swap and only required reading on the part of the questioner), receives signups with incomplete information, and is expected to read that people sign up via a WW post instead of a personal email, and receives signups after the deadline. Even after the partner information is mailed out, the questions and problems keep coming - just look at this issue where someone has already lost their swap buddy information. Then there is the follow up for those who send their baskets late, send excuses for sending late, or never even send a basket at all. The more participants there are, the more problems and the more work and time required of the coordinator. Since this time is volunteered, I see nothing wrong with setting a limit of participants to keep the effort somewhat within reason. The swaps have been held pretty frequently, so there will always be another one for those who miss the deadline or the cutoff. Dollie - Is the secret to getting a light oak shade when using Weavers Stain contained in your staining tips sheet? Lin - I rarely use flat reed as a rim, but whenever I begin to lash, I always push down on the rim while pulling up on the lasher. I've never had the problem which you describe. I also always have my lasher coming under the rim row from the inside to the outside. I tried the other way (outside to inside) but found it very awkward. And I lash from right to left because I find it easier. I am totally in agreement with Billie. It is not necessary to agree with everyone all of the time, but it IS necessary to respect his or her right to that different opinion. (Sending private blasting emails is completely immature). That is one of the things that this country was founded on. Which brings me to my final issue. Once again religious and prayer-related postings are proliferating on WW. I am sorry, but this is not the proper forum. Isn't that what people go to church for? And, like it or not, this country is NOT founded on the word of Jesus. Or Mohammed or Moses or any other single figure of a specific religion. This country is founded on freedom of religion and SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. Everyone is entitled to worship (or not worship) in his or her own way. Maybe the loss of participation in organized religion is in some way contributing to the pathetic situation this country is in, but I think it is more due to the total lack of personal responsibility, absence of parental guidance and discipline, and loss of accountability that has crept into our society. No amount of prayer is going to counteract that. Now I will get off my soapbox. Gail Caron in southern NJ where the dandelions are taking over the world %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Web Site Update Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:24:35 +0000 From: Tony Stubblefield or Dean Meredith To: David Collins/Weavers Words Hello, I just wanted to let you all know that I have updated my web site with new basket pictures and descriptions. I have added new information to the Nantucket page: http://www.tetranet.net/users/deanandtony/nantucket.htm And to the Collection page: http://www.tetranet.net/users/deanandtony/collection.htm And I have added an addition photo at a different angle to one of my waxed linen knotted baskets. That link is at: http://www.tetranet.net/users/deanandtony/contemporary.htm I mentioned the other day that I had gotten a digital camera and I really like the color quality and ease of getting pictures ready for the web. You can see a side by side comparison on the top of the Collection page. The pine needle basket on the left was taken on traditional film, printed and scanned on my flatbed scanner, the basket on the right was taken with the new digital camera and directly transferred to the computer. They both look equally great. I now am going to have to retake some of my older pictures that I am not happy with the color balance. I hope you all enjoy the new additions. Happy weaving, Tony Stubblefield St. Louis http://www.tetranet.net/users/deanandtony/baskets.htm %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: Magazine photos on WW Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:47:32 -0400 From: "Mary Hooper" To: "David Collins" To the person who thought of using SS&D photos of JoAnne Ruso's baskets on WW. I don't think so. At least, not without written permission from the magazine, the photographer, and Ms. Russo. We've just spent how many weeks discussing copyright, copying, etc.? I'm ready to go on to other topics so I'm going to follow Chrys's led and stick to basket questions for awhile. Sorry about your computer Chrys. Maybe I'd be better off if mine were toast so I'd weave more baskets for the show/demo THIS WEEKEND. 'nuff said, back to weaving. Mary Hooper %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Basket Swap Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 20:05:30 -0700 From: "Mike Bajczyk" To: In reply to the recent questions asked about the basket swap: The last date to sign up was April 25th; however, I reached "my" maximum number of participants (100) much earlier. I chose 100 as the max, partially because that was the maximum in previous swaps. If you choose to be coordinator - feel free to take as many as you want or as many as your time permits, as I did. Just remember, that there are over 1000 subscribers on this list. It would be an "awesome" job if they all wanted to participate! Sue I am assuming %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: re: question Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:02:24 -0700 From: "chas" To: "weavers words" HI all: I'm wAAAAAy behind on my posts. But was having trouble with some stain, so I thought I'd go ahead and post. I'm not able to weave much lately. Have to work, ya know -- to pay the bills? Ughhhhhhhh Anyway, I recently mixed some oil based stain with boiled linseed oil to try to tone the color down some. I couldn't remember the other ingredient < I see now that it was mineral spirits, but I didn't have any of that anyway>, so I went ahead and applied the stain. It looks great. And it STINNNNNKS so bad!!! I left the basket outside for a week and it still made me sick the short time it was in the car being transported. What did I do wrong? Does linseed oil always smell so foul? Can I save the almost quart of this stuff I have mixed up? It is a lovely color. If I had added the mineral spirits would that have cut down on the smell? If I add it now would that cut down on the smell? Thanks to anyone who can offer advice... I've been working on my swap basket, but I'm not sure I'm happy with it. I think there is enough time to try something else... I'd better get busy Ruth Lascurain %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 119 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:31:01 -0400 From: "Donna Longenecker" To: "David Collins" Lois - Please check out the picture on the cover of the book "Grandmother Basket" by Mitsi Washington in our on-line catalog. This may be what you are looking for - it is a 4 sectioned rib basket. They were very popular several years ago. She doesn't show a braided handle, but that could have been an adaptation by the weaver. Yes, I would say $50 was a steal considering the cost of materials involved. The instructions, I believe, call for weaving in round reed. Denise - I'm no lefty although I can and do sometimes twine or triple weave to the left with no problems or awkwardness. It seems to me, in my mind atleast, that you should be able to follow the same directions substituting left for right. In other words, pick up three spokes in you right hand, take the spokes furthest to the right and go over 2 to the left and down. Moving to the left, pick up another spoke, again take the furthest to the right, over two to the left and down. Hopefully a lefty will answer with a positive method. Donna L. where we had an absolutely lovely Sunday. bordlong@fast.net http://www.countryseat.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 119 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:03:20 -0400 From: martyhln@juno.com To: davidc@iei.net Hi David and World Basket makers...Dolly, the stain that I got at Indy from you called Driftwood is a fantastic color, as I thought it would be, it is a wonderful color, looks like barnbord gray, thank you for a very nice stain I really like all the colors and use them all the time...Laurie B, If you mix 2 cups of low or no odor mineral spirits with1/4 cup Boiled linseed oil and then you only need 1/8 cup of your minwax, anyway I start with 1/8 cup at times I do add a little more, the stain will dry over night. Have you ever tried weavers stain they make a great stain easy to use no mixing...Susan T, you are trying to get someone in trouble, to copy any part of any magazine you need the editors permission. Why can't you just go out and buy a copy of the magazine? If you are that interested...Kathryn G, the web site you gave was very interesting. Thanks...Denise, I am ambidextrous, and am able to teach both left and right handed. The way my lefties do the Gretchen Border is, insert as usual, or some patterns use the ends of the spokes. Follow the pattern as to where you are to begin your Gretchen, take 3 pieces beginning anywhere and put them in your right hand, now take the one to the right with your left hand, to your left, and hold it with the back of your right hand so you are not tempted to pick it up to weave again then pick up the next spoke to the left and repeat, all the way around when you are back to the starting you need to finish the row by pushing the 2beginning spokes they will look like a cross your heart bra. the one on the right goes in the right cup now there is only one left and it goes in the cleavage not in the other cup. I hope that helps you. First row is done now start again preferable some other spot. Repeat for however many rows the pattern says, or you choose how many rows you like. For me the more the better. I use all the reed that I have left as long as they will all make another row. Gretchen Borders are great. I have got to go get things together for AMB Spring Event. Please say a prayer for our Weavers Words person Carol C. Her breast cancer shot is making her sick, ever 3weeks she gets them. Hi Carol. Everyone have some fun go weave a basket. Warmest Regards...Marty Holihan...Flint, MI...dholihan@gfn.org (or)...martyhln@juno.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: aloha Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:03:58 -1000 From: The Keener Clan To: davidc@iei.net Aloha from sunny, so far, Hawaii--and it looks like a good staining day as the wind isn*t blowing so far.. Thanks, thanks, thanks to those kind weavers who wrote in support of my "nasty e-mails" (and haven*t received any lately, so hopefully it is over), and to those who commented on the last WW (I really liked your post, Billie!)--and to the rapid responses about the big awesome ribbed basket (we think it is the Grandmother*s Basket by Misti Washington) and to the two wonderful weavers who have offered to swap! David, you are a peach to give us this opportunity to share with one another. aloha nui loa, Lois %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Bits and Pieces Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:40:27, -0500 From: BDKE97B@prodigy.com (MRS BILLIE A DORRIS) To: davidc@iei.net Since we've been on the correct English bit- What has happened to the word WOVEN? People keep commenting how finely "weaved" my baskets are. I'm not criticizing but am really confused. Perhaps it's my English major background. You read of woven bedspreads not weaved, so what's the difference. Is it just a phrase used in this part of the south? Janice: Was going to write you privately but have lost your address. How is the Nantucket coming? Let me know. I first saw the wretched Gretchen referred to in Friendship Baskets by Joan Moore. She says that she first saw it on a basket brought to her by one of her students. "I named the edge the Gretchen border because the basket had a wood tag with the name Gretchen painted on it. Since that time the border has been seen in books on weaving, but my first introduction to it was in this way." I have enough trouble just weaving it, can't imagine trying to figure it out from scratch. Well have much to do so will stop for now. Billie in sunny maybe warm today Va. Beach %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: German Basket Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 20:29:40 -0700 From: "Kathey Ervin" To: "David Collins" Lois - the curious basket description is indeed intriguing and I followed your good description so far and then said 'what?' I do hope your friend will send a picture in to David. Kathey Ervin - Pacific Northwest where it was 70 degrees yesterday and felt like it could snow today! Burrr........ %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weavers Words Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:05:05 -0700 From: clayart2@moose-mail.com To: davidc@iei.net Hello weavers......AuntPatti......Yes, I played slow pitch softball for several years and loved every minute of it! My daughter carried on the tradition, now we both have terrible ankles and knees! But we had a great time getting there......Even losing my leg to cancer in '88 didn't really stop me....learned to kayak, did some 5K's in a wheelchair, won first place in my division in trap shooting (called a chair shoot for us gimpys)Also was in w/c racquetball and walleyball tournaments......oh yea, and learned how to play golf...now I really enjoy that! Dianne....thanks for the quote...It is so true.. Just adds new strength to the old adage of never look back, but rather continue forward to your goals.... Crystal-sorry your computer got zapped, may you be up and running in no time.....this is a good time to remind everyone that just turning off and unplugging your puter during a storm won't keep it from being struck by lightening....Remember to unplug the phone line also as this to is a pathway for lightening. My daughter learned the hard way I'm afraid....................... Lin....thanks, I thought I was the only one in a quandary over which basket is just the right one for the Spring Swap!! I still can't decide which one would be THE one..... Billie, you go girl! Since my cancer in '88 that resulted in an amputation and the process of recovery, I found that I couldn't let myself plan beyond one day at a time. It was a long time before I could increase that time frame. In doing so, I also stopped taking issue with small irritating things, and began to see the beauty around me and the people who occupied a place within my little world. I believe if we all just stop a minute and appreciate just the simple things in life we tend to take for granted, that there just won't be time to get upset ..... Nora from now sunny Colorado, where the snow is still on the ground and the hearts of all are saddened by the tragedy that happened to those poor children...... %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: spring cleaning basket Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:31:31 -0400 From: "Tom Rigterink" To: Hello everyone I have a quick question and would appreciate any and all help. I am working on Barb Rains Spring Cleaning Basket and I must be brain dead because I can't set up the base for the shorter basket. Something just is not clicking...I can't get it to make any sense and what I do has got to be wrong. If anyone out there has done this basket I would sure appreciate some help...I love the basket and so do some of my friends and they are waiting for theirs! Keep up the great work David...what would we do without you? Thanks Diane %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Basket Swap Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:26:19 -0500 From: Gary Dunham To: davidc@iei.net Hi! Haven't been keeping up very well with Weaver's Words lately, did I miss something? I did see where it was posted that there was another swap. I did email in to the person that I did want to do the swap, but have not received a swap partner. To the person who is running the swap, did you not get my email, or have you not "swapped out" the people? If you could email me, I surely would appreciate it. Cindy in finally warm and sunny northern Illinois %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% If for any you would ever like to cancel your subscription, simply send me a message with "unsubscribe" as your subject.