"Weavers Words" Vol. 2 Iss. 105 Date Sent: March 28, 1999 Web Page: http://www.iei.net/~davidc/ Subscribers: 988 David Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 317-899-5747 davidc@iei.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Do You Like Weavers Words? Click Below To "Recommend-It" To A Friend! http://recommend-it.com/l.z.e?s=210339 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% "Web Cards" - Create Full-Color Postcards For Your Web Page. http://www.printing.com/affiliate.asp?site=davidc For every free sample of "Web Cards" that you request from the above link, I will receive a $1 commission. It cost you NOTHING. Once you receive your free sample, you can purchase personalized "Web Cards" for your web page and/or business if you like. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% "Bare Walls" Basket Pictures/Prints If you are looking for basket pictures/prints, check out "Bare Walls" through Weaver's Words site. 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The address is: http://www.iei.net/~davidc/pictures.html Take Care, David %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: General Stuff Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 16:36:25 -0500 From: "John Jacobson" To: "David Collins" Hi everyone! I guess I am a part-time lurker as I don't respond very often. I read in one of the last issues how easy it is to reply to author then delete, so thought I'd try it. Karen in Hawaii, have you got a copy of the book, "What Are Fronds for?" It's a great book with some fun little projects. Let me know if you are interested and I will get the author etc. for you. Also, I too get into a slump and find that asking a friend or group to get together, gets me off dead center. First baskets: My first class was a ribbed wall basket. It took all day to make and I thought it was the greatest thing I could ever make! I still have it, in fact I hang it in my kitchen. I often have students ask me about my first basket, so I can show it to them. I could use some advice on the turning back and packing technique that sounds like it might appear soon on WW, from Tony I think? I have learned several different methods but really need a picture to look at as my visual learning skills seem to need updating more frequently as I get older! Kelly, where in Southern Cal. are you? I have sisters out there, one in Santa Barbara and one in Santa Cruz. Would love more info on a weaving retreat I could combine with a social visit. I live in Michigan most of my life and now I often fly when I go back for the AMB convention. Sometimes the vendors will have an empty box they don't need that you can put all your goodies in and check it through the airlines as a second piece of luggage. That way it arrives home when you do and you don't have to pay extra. JoAnn Catsos- I love your work! I wasn't able to attend the MI conference this year as a student but managed to go anyway as Kathy Halter asked me to help man the Royalwood booth. I met your husband as we seemed to frequent the coffee pot at the same time. I bought one of your ash bracelet patterns but have not had time to make it yet as I got a job shortly after returning from Mich. and haven't had much free time since. Didn't you teach at Midwest this year? Another one I had to miss, but am hoping to return next year. Karen the kudzu lady, I'm not sure if you are the one who had asked for comments about your website, but I looked at the photos on it. Have you ever done a random weave with your kudzu? It may be flexible enough to start the shape, but don't know about filling in. Keiko Takeda taught a random weave at Midwest in 1998 and the results from her class were beautiful! Maybe you could fill in with honeysuckle or something else small like that. I have used kudzu only for frames as I got mine from Doris Messick and they were already coiled into a nice shape. I can also envision other naturals woven in with the kudzu like philodendron, or the draco dracena with the pretty orange tips. Judy Briscoe is a good source for that stuff. Winnie, the twill babies necklace is a great project. I get together with a group of four other women to weave and we made that our project one night. We all chose a different design so the results were fun to compare. I bought the kits from Patti when I went to Michigan last fall. I had money and lists from each of the ladies with color requests etc. Talk about stress!! I didn't want to disappoint anyone. We all enjoyed making them and we all finished them too which is an accomplishment as we always have to include a little food and beverage therapy in our get-togethers. One activity that our little group tries to do at least once a year is run away for a weekend. We call ourselves the "Biscuit Basket" ladies, named by one of our kids after the book of the same name. Between the five of us we have 11 children ages 5 - 13. We usually stay at a Residence Inn because we can get a penthouse which sleeps all of us comfortably. We usually bring our food for one meal, (breakfast is included in the price) and order in another. That way we don't have to interrupt our weaving! With an entertainment card discount, our lodging for the weekend a few weeks ago was $28.00.!! That's pretty hard to beat! This time we all did the same project, a huge double-walled laundry basket. Of course they all came out different, but the incentive to finish is strong and the companionship is priceless. Might be a good alternative if you can't quite afford a convention. I was the one who wrote in about my friend Cheryl. From all reports, she is doing well although I have not had an opportunity to talk to her in person. I haven't put in many weaving tips this time, but will stay tuned. To all of you who are heading either to IN or NC, have a great time. I am Pea-green with envy, as I would love to be either place. Both catalogues had a great variety of choices. IN isn't far, I may have to join so I can get in on the fun next year. Enjoy, and don't worry too much about sleep. You can always catch up when you get home! Happy weaving! Gail J. in OH where it looks warmer out that it really is! Signing off now because I have to walk my two dogs, sisters of unknown heritage! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Deft and more Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 00:38:55 +0000 From: Tony Stubblefield or Dean Meredith To: David Collins/Weavers Words Naomi - I have seen Deft Semi-gloss spray listed in Gratiot Lake's catalog for $4.75 wholesale/$5.60 retail. It can also be found in the paint department of discount stores like Wal-Mart and K-Mart where the price is usually around $4.50 a can. I used to get it from Builder's Square or HQ, but they don't seem to carry the semi-gloss anymore, only the gloss (which is too shiny for my tastes). Karen in Georgia and Anna Lizotte- Here is a little blurb and the address for Setphen Zeh I found on the Web. I have seen his work at an art fair one time and it is quite nice but I have never come across any pictures on the Web. Stephen Zeh: Basketmaker, PO Box 381, Sadie Hill Rd., Temple, Maine 04984, 207-778-2351, zehbaskt@somtel.com Stephen Zeh Baskets are hand crafted of Brown Ash in the tradition of the Maine woodsmen, Shakers, and Native American basketmakers. Leslie - You know most of my students don't like sanding either, but I really like it and kind of find it relaxing :-) Of course all of my friends think I am crazy anyway :-P Sue Ann - Hey now there are a few of us guys out here! :-) Karen and Bert - If you are quoting someone word for word you should definitely credit them. On the other hand if the "tip" is something of general knowledge it should be part of the public domain and you shouldn't need anyone's permission to pass along the information as long as you restated in your own words. I do put a copyright notice on my diagrams, but this only covers the drawings themselves, it doesn't cover the, let's say lashing technique, which is something of general knowledge. It's like you don't have to reference Webster every time you write the definition of a word. The only time I would worry about getting any kind of written permission is if I were publishing a book, but again as long as the author is sited properly in the text that shouldn't even be necessary. Here it is again after midnight and I am still up. I can't even sleep in on Saturday as I have to be at the tour bus at 6:15 a.m. for a road trip to Indiana. Oh well, there is always a nap on Sunday. Take care, Tony Stubblefield St. Louis http://www.tetranet.net/users/deanandtony/baskets.htm %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: Using WW Tips Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 19:29:50 -0800 From: karen awong To: David Collins References: 1 Every time I Read WW I copy any tips that I myself find to be helpful. For the sake of space I just transfer the info over to a file I keep just for that. Over the months I have collected some wonderful tid bits that I use or pass on to my friend who started weaving last year with me. Then I joined "Aloha Basket weavers Guild." Wanting to do my share I volunteered to do the newsletter. I have been weaving just under a year and really don't have enough experience in basketry to draw from very many sources as I have only been reading the WW. Then I remembered all of the tips I had been saving and thought I would put them into the newsletter. But having not copied the names of the people as I had never thought I would need them I just gave the credit to the WW as some tips were quoted by many people. But it bothered me as I did not want someone to think I was trying to rip anyone off. Hence I posed the question. Even though the newsletter is not for prophet and is just among the guild members. being that I enjoy writing and have had experience with having an article published and have had to seek out permission for quoting etc. I know the deal with copyright. Since I was paraphrasing and only using tips that had been stated by several people there never was a direct quote. But since I can't give credit as I don't have time to read back issues to this I have decided to not use the tips anymore. But, I certainly will use them for myself. They're a treasure. And yesterday I finished up a basket and really was happy to be back at it. I also used the tip of using DEFT for the first time. It was so simple and the results were so nice. I don't think I will be using that minwax anymore. I had the chance to see a basket this February that I had sent to a friend last Christmas. I had stained it with Minwax and even though I had aired it out for weeks, I could not believe that it still had an odor. So it is time for a conversion. Our weather is warming up enough to be working out side in the evening. So now I am going to turn on my Chile Pepper lights and start weaving out in my little area of the patio. Karen Awong in Hawaii Nei %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 104 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:34:26 -0800 From: "Denise Beck" To: "David Collins" >>This book is a translation from the German and is illustrated with woodcuts which are a marvel in themselves. I hope someone else will check this out and tell us what you think of the book. >> I have been using the Willow Basketry book by Bernard and Regula Verdet-Fierz for over a year now and I concur, it is a wonder. It has weaves in it that I've not seen in any of the British basketry books, and I am determined to master the "false foot" done by weaving the first upset rows of three-rod wale in a particular way so that they protrude down below the base and make a nice foot for the basket to sit on without the bother of adding on stakes and weaving an extra border-type foot after the basket is finished. However, I think I paid closer to $50 (Canadian) for it, so three bucks is a real steal-a-roonie! >>Denise McCann Beck - Welcome to Weavers Words! Hope you like it here. Is it too soon for me to say "I told you so?" I still envy your great access to natural materials. :=)>> Thank you, Roberta/Bert/Mum/Hertha! Go ahead and say you told me so, only what about? That I'd love WW? Naaawwwww! You should have seen me today checking my messages just about every hour on the hour all day long, wondering why my WW was taking so LOooOOOooOOOooonnnnnnnNNnggg to get here! Just couldn't believe how keen I am to talk baskets with poeple who, well UNDERSTAND my mania! So anyway, I passed the time by weaving a largish oval base out of the leftover willow from my second (now finished) garden skep (Pics on the WW site) that I cleaved and pithed last night. Geez it made a mess all over the living room floor. >>We would have been trying to talk you into taking the ferry to Port Angeles tomorrow and riding down to the spring retreat in Port Orchard. It is only an hour and a half from Sequim. Next year.>> Sharle, I knew about it but you have to pick and choose, and I wanted to do Alastair's willow workshop this weekend. Lorna and May from our group are going, though, and it sounds like a lot of fun. I bought some of your black cedar last year and I knew about the mud, but I didn't know you only let it sit for TWO days! And it gets SO black! Some mud. Have you tried putting any on your face as a facial? I bet it would be good for your skin. Even considering the smell..... %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: basket swap Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 08:34:01 -0100 From: "Jones Family" To: "David Collins" Sue B- I would love to do a basket swap in May also. Joy- LOL!!! Too funny! My cat likes to sharpen her nails on my basket coffeetable. It's better than the upholstered furniture! And I can redo the coffee table. Darleena who is getting ready to go to Florida %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 104 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 07:37:07 -0500 From: Pamela Woodbury To: David Collins References: 1, 2 Pamela Woodbury wrote: Hi All, By now some of you are off to one or another convention. I, myself couldn't make either this year as I am doing a big home town craft show that I do every year. It was a hard decision go to Indy or risk losing my place in this show. It is a very nice juried show and I have finally earned my way into a very good spot and just didn't dare miss it. Tony I have looked at your baskets and they are wonderful. Obviously you are an artist. Now what is a medical or biological illustrator. I have always had bear claws around, but until WW had no clue what they were called. My grandmother collected them years ago on their trips to Florida and then she would let the little grandchildren make birds out of them. I think I still have one bird that one of my children made with their great grandma. I must admit I do not see anything basket related I can do with one. Darleena, thanks for finally explaining exactly where the Azores are located. I thought maybe I was the only one who didn't know. Pam %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Second on the list Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 07:48:51 -0500 From: Gretchen Hautzinger Organization: UniDial Internet Services To: David Collins I will host David and his mom for a visit here to the great Lebanon Ohio, home of the Golden Lamb, Ohio's oldest Inn. I have a question for you all. I love wrapped handles, and more than once I have come up short on the wrapper(?) or It broke somewhere along the way. How do you add another one? I have looked in my books and haven't seen any references? Any ideas? I would like to wrap the handle of my next New England Quilt Basket by Judy Richmond. The first one I made turned out beautiful. So glad you all have a positive response to my news about adoption. You are all my extended family, other than my husband, I have no living relatives, and his family isn't overjoyed with me or the plans. But my friends, all you weavers too are ecstatic. Thank you Gretchen %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: misc. Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 11:04:26 -0500 From: "Angie Longenecker" To: "David" Hi all, Re: swimming cats - We had a farm cat for about 15 years who would swim. We used to take her out on rafts in the pond when she was a kitten and when she didn't want to be there any more, she would swim to shore. She used to go fishing (she was a great mouser too!), she would come home soaking wet (except for right between her ears) with a fish or a frog. Of course all of her meals ended up on the door mat, she would cry until someone came out, told her good job and petted her. Re: quotes from WWs. Go ahead! Of course it's nice to include a name if at all possible, but most of this information is not new. It's trial and error and what someone else has passed on or read in a book or pattern or learned from a teacher. There are not a whole lot of new things in this world, just recycled, redone and renewed ideas and methods. Fill the newsletters with good tips and suggestions. This is a discussion group, anything shared is fair game. No, someone should not make money off of what we share, but a newsletter is just another method of sharing. Kudzu Karen (hope you don't mind that name - I like it!) - Datu is a type of thin rattan sold with the bark in place (no cut so it's round with joints), pullet rattan is also a different variety. They are used generally as is to weave. Cold weekend coming up - I hope it's the last! Angie in PA The Country Seat http://www.countryseat.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 102 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:22:38 -0600 From: Roberta R Comstock To: davidc@iei.net "Weavers Words" Vol. 2 Iss. 102 Tony Stubblefield - Thanks for the class report. Carol Miller - The short answer is that kudzu is a giant Japanese bean plant that is trying to take over the world. For the long answer, go to the WW website and search on 'Kudzu'. Winnie - Maybe the waxed linen in your swap basket had been plied again. (Two or more threads twisted together). That would be one way to make it heavier. Pamela Z. - I think you have to maximize the target document before you paste into it. Then you can minimize it again. Lois - I'm with you on the power of positive feedback. It can make all the difference in the world to someone who's feeling a little unsure about how they're doing. Sounds as if your painting instructor doesn't have a clue on this point. Sigh. Her teaching could be so much more satisfying for her if her students were happier. So maybe you and Joanne should critique each others' work and do the warm fuzzy feedback thing. Helene Meyer - Thanks for your suggestion about being supportive of John McGuire. What a great idea! Mindy Lower - Huzzah for finishing your nested Nantucket set. I look forward to seeing the picture(s). Bert Comstock in Independence, MO, where my daffodils, coltsfoot and blue eyed grass (actually a tiny spring lily) are blooming like crazy... %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 104 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:40:29 -0500 From: "Donna" To: "David Collins" Karen - Guess it's time to add my two cents worth to the topic of republishing tips. I consider WW's nothing more than a discussion group, gab-fest, round-table or whatever. I was under the impression that it was set up for the sharing of ideas. Just a group of people getting together to talk. Talk is free is this case. Once I post something here, I have to realize that anyone in the world may view it at one time or the other. It's always nice to give credit where credit is due, but not always possible as you may remember something that was said, but have no idea who said it or even if it was on WW's, Baskets, etc., or a tip read on any of the numerous sites devoted to basket weaving. Now, if you happen to be taking a direct quote, word for word, credit is certainly in order and, of course, may not be taken off of a website without the owner's permission as all information on a site is copyright protected. My goodness, last week when I taught that class, I passed on a tip I learned from Flo Hoppe probably 15 years ago. I mentioned her name as the source of the tip, but what is to keep one of the students from sometime in the future, mentioning it to someone else and not remembering where it had originated, and then that person passing it on and it eventually ending up in a newsletter sometime or the other? There is no way someone will contact Flo for her permission to use this tip. Let's be real here, after all, how many of the tips being passed on in WW's originated with the person doing the posting? Our entire learning process of everything in life is comprised of data learned and stored away in our memory bank. Donna L. http://www.countryseat.com Check out our new online searchable catalog with shopping cart ctryseat@fast.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 104 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:03:14 -0800 From: "Pamela Zimmerman" To: "David Collins" Roberta Comstock - where were you a park ranger? I left the NPS about 10 years ago. Didn't know devil's claw was in KS! I appreciate the ideas for sweetgum balls! Thanks for the great tips on natural egg dyes & the sweetgum stain! jls1117@aol.com, sorry I missed your name...what are jacaranda stems - palm inflorescence? Trying to email you direct, but having some problems with my system, and I am not sure they are getting out. Pamela Zimmerman North Carolina %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weavers Words Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:59:49 PST From: "Alice Edwards" To: davidc@iei.net Hi Everybody, I am short of time, but wanted to send in a few comments. Many of our members are off to convention this week, and the rest of us will have to try to keep David out of trouble. My solution for the 'procrastination blues' has varied. After health problems last year, I took a fairly simple class, so I didn't have to set up, clean up. Just have fun and weave. Sometimes I do something I have especially wanted to try, and sometimes I just start organizing my tools and supplies. Anything that gets you started seems to work. It will be interesting to read instructions for Tony's filling in methods. The best written instructions I have seen so far are found in a small book/booklet called "Turning Back" by (?Scott Gilbert). It has very good illustrations, and I know a weaver who teaches a method that combines the last two of his for Appalachian egg baskets. Judy Benner - I have never taught a class, but I do have a philosophy about charging for baskets I make that would also apply to charging for classes. Back when I first got requests to make baskets for other people, I realized that if I made and sold baskets for significantly less than other basket makers, then I was undermining their ability to make and sell baskets for a reasonable profit. Since I have a regular job and only weave baskets for enjoyment, I could afford to make and sell very cheaply, or give away baskets if I wanted to. But I feel that is unfair to other weavers to whom the income really matters and in effect stealing from them. So, I charge as much, or more, than anyone else. Also it is a matter of respect for my time, talent and effort. I think it is an important part of encouraging respect for basketry as an art or craft to put a proper value on our product and our skills. Whew!! Enough soapbox! Marilyn from Missouri - Hi, no I have never even been to Powell Gardens, but taking classes there sounds like fun. I have never taught classes, still feel too much like a 'newbie'. Will you be at the Missouri convention? Evie - Have you considered keeping a damp sponge setting in a plastic container by where you weave for the raffia while working on you pine needle baskets? It might not be as messy as dipping in water. Have heard or read somewhere a suggestion to do this while lashing. I'm thinking about trying it, as I found some sponges the other day that I could use. Pat Moritz - Yes, I saw the 'Flirtation' basket in the catalog and was very intrigued. But I was hesitant as a fairly new weaver (approx. 2 1/2 years) to tackle any more new materials/techniques. I'm looking forward to meeting you and others on the list who will be at the Missouri convention. Incidentally, I got my class assignments for the Missouri convention the other day. The excitement is building!! Lois Keener - Hope you make it to KC in October. Let us know in advance so we can be sure to schedule some time to get together. Kathey Ervin from Sequim - Sorry, but it wasn't me. I only moved to the KC area in 1989. Glad you discovered baskets. Happy Weaving from Alice Edwards in the chilly Kansas City Area %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 104 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 09:33:14 -0700 From: "Karen" To: "David Collins" References: 1 Hi guys! David, as always, we do appreciate your great, selfless work. I really look forward to receiving the WW's and learning all sorts of stuff. Judy, you asked about government grants. Don't have really specific info for you, but a good place to start might be with the Small Business Admin. They might know other avenues for you to check out. Also, it never hurts to contact your congressman. Bug them for help. Also, on a state level, try your governor's office, or Dept. of Natural Resources, or historic preservation people with the State. Also check with librarians at reference desks. Sounds like a great idea. I'd like to come when you get it going. Bet I wouldn't be the only one. Anna---sounds like it was wonderful at the Hops harvest. Can you send David a picture of your basket? I would love to see it. I don't know if anyone around here grows hops, but I'm going to check with the Agricultural people. Thanks for describing it. Also interested if you could send a picture of the blackberry baskets. Sounds so neat and exotic!!! Do you weave while they are green? Re: my four dogs. Last October, I had only one. A female golden retriever called Danie. One of our "neighbors" put up a sign that they had found a little black puppy that needed a home. So we took her in. Then about 4 weeks ago, we woke up on a Sunday morning, and as I was taking Java, her name, for her walk, I got barked at from the side of the porch. We have a porch that surrounds the house and two little puppies had moved in overnight. I had thought I heard a noise on the porch outside my bedroom, but just dismissed it, we have cats that make weird noses all the time. Well, some moron had dropped the two puppies off at my house. They were maybe 6 weeks or so, and big already. Huge paws. We ignored them at first, hoping they had just escaped from a neighbors house and they would be found. But no, of course not! By mid afternoon, they were sitting on a little bank opposite our front door staring into the house. Then my teenagers got involved, and went out and petted them, etc., etc. You know the story. I didn't want to take them to the pound, so now we have 3 puppies, and Danie. The new girls are named Mocha, light brown color, and Boo! She's solid black. They are so laid back, but having trouble with the potty training, so I've been walking a lot. He He!! We also have two cats and a bunny. and that's enough!!! Karen in Georgia where we had huge snowflakes last night and some rain. Husband fell down the steps this morning on the ice--of course it helped that he had 3 puppies dragging him! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 2 I. 103 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 18:51:09 -0600 From: Roberta R Comstock To: davidc@iei.net "Weavers Words" Vol. 2 Iss. 103 Karen Awong - Your museum visit sounds like it might be the answer to getting out of your slump. Are you aware that you can make an appointment with the curator (of basketry - if they have a specific one for that) to go 'behind the scenes' some time and get a closer look at some of the materials they may not have on display? A lot of museums will do this for serious students who want to learn more about their collections. And you can meet some fascinating people while you're at it. The museum staff may be able to introduce you to someone who is still making native style baskets. Could be a potential guest teacher for a guild meeting? Crystal - Do you have a picture of your mantle basket? I love hearing about & seeing unique projects. Patricia A. Moritz - _A Guide to Weft Twining and Related Structures With Interacting Wefts_ by David W. Fraser was published by University of PA Press, Philadelphia, in 1989. ISBN 0-8122-8200-0. I was able to find a copy last fall via a used book search on the internet. The author is presently director of The Textile Museum in Washington, DC, I believe. He might know where you could find a copy of his book. It's fascinating! Good luck with the book hunt, and with your new job! Kathey Ervin - Your mention of a fishing creel reminded me that I forgot to mention the ones I had seen at the trout hatchery on our trip to Branson, MO last month. The had several and a couple of them appeared to be pretty old. It was a pleasant surprise to find baskets on display at a nature center. Janet Hechmer - I'm not a native of Independence, but my SO is - his name is Bob Lauderdale. He graduated from Truman High. I moved into the KC area in 1974, met Bob in '82 and moved here in '83. Our house is just around the corner from his mother's place. Karen - Datu is a kind of rattan. It is whole, that is with the smooth skin left on, and a nice size to work with. I bought mine from Royalwood. Denise McCann Beck - Wish I could have joined your cedar harvesting party! What fun! Thanks for the tip about getting rid of the resin. I don't have an ocean handy, but next batch, I'll throw some salt in my soaking tub. Bert Comstock, sunny Independence, MO %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: questions about classes Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:02:00 -0600 From: Carol Zeller To: davidc@iei.net David: Just a quick question to whomever may be able to help me out. I had two cousins visit over this last weekend and they came specifically to weave baskets. They are interested in continuing their knew found love of baskets in Minneapolis, MN. I wasn't very helpful in finding classes to offer but gave them some pricing information. If anyone can turn me on to classes in their hometown I will let them know. Carol in Battle Creek, MI %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: WW Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 13:05:23 -0500 From: "Jayna Glemby" To: "David Collins" First...Tony, thank you so much for your detailed and easy to understand information about peening. Great to learn something new. Bert..guess we will just stick with calling you Bert. You are so great with sharing information and helping all it makes many of us think of you as a mother figure. Funny how we can all be about names. It seemed weird to me to have you use my last name. I never use it...actually it's not my name but 'what's his name' my ex-husband's. My first name is so unusual that most of my friends just send me snail mail addressed: Jayna, PO Box, Charlton, MA and I get it. Mary Hooper....I'm racking my memory, so please help. Your sign off "Give me a star," she said, "and make it a big one." What is it from? To: Carol Miller: Regarding natural dye for Easter eggs. When I was a kid we were fortunate to have many Armenian families living near us. What wonderful cooks and bakers!!! Yummy. At Easter they dyed their eggs using beet juice and / or onion skins. The ones dyed in the beet juice were the most wonderful deep ruby color. Perhaps you could check and see if there is an Armenian Church near you and if they might help you with a dye recipe. If you do find a church, find out when they have their fairs....foods and crafts to die for! Getting back into weaving......it is weird how you can get out of the groove and have to push yourself into doing something you love. But, I find once I start up again, I love it and wonder why I hesitated. Jayna in drizzly central MA %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Weaver's Words Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:44:59 -0500 From: "joym" To: Hi Everyone, Better get some notes out to you, or another issue will be out! Unusual Materials: check out Susi Nuss' Mining Co newsletter for basketmakers. There's a wealth of info. in there! Judy M: Have you considered asking your local historical society or contacting your nearest living history museum/site for grant info.? Hours in the Day (a paraphrased writing): I can imagine myself doing so much more if only I had more time in my day. Yet, I'm given the same number of hours as everyone else. What I do with my time is up to me. Because I recognize that I have the freedom to fill each day as I choose, I feel in control & not limited. I accept my choices with enthusiasm. Thus, I give & receive meaning & worth. Gretchen: All good wishes for your new family. How exciting! I have a friend who has adopted 3 Romanian children. Judi in Del Mar: Thanks for the belly laugh on your critter stories! and Davis, may I suggest a Basketmaker's Mascot/Pets page on WW? Joy Moody Sign of the Crow: http://www.signofthecrow.com Signing off from Spring-like Maine where the sun was warm & wonderful today! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Subject: Kudzu Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 20:32:51 -0500 From: "Donna Longenecker" To: "David Collins" Hi everyone- Hope everyone got home from conventions safely. Sitting here reading some back issues of WW's and for anyone who has not had enough of the kudzu discussions, go back and read the post by "Ronald Harrison" entitled "Gardening tips from down south-how to grow kudzu" in Weavers Words V1 I36. dated Aug 5, 1997. Had to laugh when I read it again and wanted to share it with others who might not have been around that long ago. Donna in damp, but warming up PA bordlong@fast.net http://www.countryseat.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% If for any you would ever like to cancel your subscription, simply send me a message with "unsubscribe" as your subject.