"Weavers Words" Vol. 1 Iss. 89 Compiled By: David Collins Snail Mail: 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 Owned By: Weavers Everywhere Date Sent: February 06, 1998 Subscribers: 437 Back Issues: http://www.iei.net/~davidc/ Basket Biddin' Auction: http://members.tripod.com/~Basket_Biddin/ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ***IMPORTANT INFORMATION*** ***PLEASE READ BEFORE PRINTING*** 1.) Highlight entire issue. 2.) Click copy. 3.) Paste issue into a word processor of your choosing. 4.) Now Print. @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Hi Everyone, Firstly, You can now send postcards for any occasion directly from Weaver's Words home page by clicking the postcard link. Or you can go directly to http://www.iei.net/~davidc/postcard.html. All postcards are P.C. (Politically Correct). :-) Secondly, I have added a message board & chat room system to Weaver's Words web page. You can access them by clicking on the "Message Board & Chat Room" link on Weaver's Words home page, http://www.iei.net/~davidc/. They are open 24 hours a day 7 days a week. So anyone can set up a time to meet. The only hitch is your web browser must be Java compatible. Which means Netscape 3.0/Internet Explorer 3.0 or better. You can download them for free at http://www.download.com/. Thirdly, I would like to get a comprehensive listing of all basketry web pages on my links page, http://www.iei.net/~davidc/cool.htm. I know what many of your web pages are but I won't place a link to your site without your permission. If you have a banner or logo, I would like to use it for the link. It looks nicer than a simple word link and it gives your site higher visibility. Please let me know. Fourthly, If you have a picture that you would like everyone to see, just attach it to your email message and I'll post it on Weaver's Words web page for all the subscribers to see. I'm trying to make Weaver's Words web page as user-friendly as possible. Any suggestions you may have would be greatly appreciated. By the way our subscribers have been skyrocketing lately. Don't forget to sign the Weaver's Words guest book. Can you believe that here in Indianapolis we've barely had any snow this year? I belong to the ASA (Anti-Snow-Alliance). :-) Take Care, David davidc@iei.net @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: My basket page Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 20:27:57 EST From: LindaClift@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Hi all: I want to invite everyone to take a look at my web page which my 15 year old son did for me for my birthday. It is a work in progress but I am one proud basket case. He put the Central Pennsylvania Basket Weavers Guild newsletter there. Let me know what you think of it. The address is : http://members.aol.com/lindaclift/ or you can use this link My BasketPage . Happy weaving, Linda Clifton, New Cumberland, PA @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Alcohol burners. Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:16:32 -0600 From: "Emilie Springer" To: To all Fellow Basketmakers: I purchased a glass alcohol burner for less than $10.00. It is made specifically for burning alcohol and works perfect for basket-making. I found this one at a rock shop but they can be bought other places too I would guess. It's completely safe, made of heavy-duty glass, the wick can be adjusted and trimmed and covered with a cap. It's a great help for burning off hairs and much safer than making your own or using other methods. Emilie - Madison, Wisconsin @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 88 Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 22:58:53 -0500 From: olneyjw@juno.com (Judith W Olney) To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 Johanna! Hi! That was a truly excellent explanation of basket hair removal! Butane burns much cooler than propane, so the danger of "antique-ing" a basket is practically nil. The only thing I would add is that I do cut off any really big hairs before singeing and, if I am cleaning up a really classy basket, I finish by pulling out all imbedded hairs with my hemostat. I am really nearsighted so maybe I see something the rest of you don't, but when I just pick hairs with the hemostat and cut the biggies, there is still a halo of fuzz around the basket that can only be removed by singeing. If it is a really, really classy basket, and not dyed, I go over it lightly with very fine sandpaper to remove the little black nubbins that singeing sometime leaves behind. I must add that there are VERY few baskets that merit this meticulous attention! XXOO JOlney @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: still weaving Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 21:42:22 -0800 From: Mandy To: davidc@iei.net Hello, Hope all of you fellow weavers are staying warm. I hate winter but at the same time I just love to curl on the couch and weave a basket. But am looking forward to sitting by the river and weaving in the summer. Nancy.....tell your husband I am still weaving...LOL...could of burned down the house but would still be weaving. Yes...I was more upset that I lost the basket and that my husband through my blow torch outside in the snow so it wouldn't catch with the fire and one of the fireman stold it...it was a new one...really made me mad..forget the smoke damage...give me my blow torch...LOLOLOL.... Happy Weaving, Mandy @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 21:51:57 PST From: "Kay Janke" To: davidc@iei.net Hello all: Haven't been on for awhile as have had some health problems and they have not had me in a very cheerful mood. Wanted to tell you of my experience at AMB convention. As there were 12 of us in a class next to, I think it was Rosie Kiley teaching a class. The hammers were so loud that none of us could hear our teacher & her instructions. Hopefully they will put the classes that do a lot of pounding, etc. in a room away from all those classes that set up bases & weave. We were told that Rosie K. is a very nice person, I have not taken a class with her, but her class requires hammering & it is extremely noisy with just a curtain between the classes. When it came time to fill out the part of the evaluation of the class, I think everyone said under 'What could be improved?' and the answer was -to be able to hear our teachers instructions. Those who want to identify themselves as WW people. Unless you walk up to everyone & really look close at the nametag, the WW is not that easy to see, even when highlighted. Better yet might be to put the WW on the tag, but also pin on a bright red ribbon or something that you all agree on. I did put WW on my nametag & highlighted it. Even worked at registration, sitting there for a couple hours. Not one person there noticed it. Everyone is so busy getting to class or somewhere, that you need something on that others don't have. And you have to make an extra effort to LOOK. Good Luck. Mandy: Glad that things are getting fixed after the fire. And very glad that noone was injured. Several years ago I drove our car in the driveway, after only going about 500' (I turned around & had decided to take another vehicle.) I could see what I thought was fog that night, but quickly decided that it was smoke coming from under the hood. And it was and did much damage. Of course this experience made a very big impression on me as I am sure yours did. And I now carry a fire extinguisher in each vehicle in the trunk. Only one time in all those years since have we ever had to use it, but without it, that vehicle might have burned up. The catalytic converter was red hot under the car. So from the voice of experience-GET FIRE EXTINGUISHERS. Have them in your house, more then one area, have them in your vehicles. And check them, periodically, to be sure they are operable. I now buy the kind that you can refill. But you can buy them at Meijers, K-Mart,hardware stores, etc. The ones sold there are not refillable. So after they have been used, throw them away & buy another. The price you pay is well worth the peace of mind. Noone plans a fire, but it happens. Be prepared. Mandy: I find that the Cracker Basket or a Berry Basket is a good beginning basket. One is square, one is round & they should be able to finish one in 2 - 3 hours (beginners) maybe a little longer if they aren't very good at moving along. Or you can do a bit larger basket, like a melon basket, but getting 20 girls to keep the ribs in might be a little to time consuming, unless you have lots of help. There are several baskets for beginners. If you need more ideas, e-mail me. Basketladie@hotmail.com I recently went to Baskets,etc. & found under Links that you can access some pictures from the Anthropology Museum at the University of Michigan, the Ethnology Section. They have an extensive collection of baskets and some are pictured there. If you haven't been there, check it out. Have a good week everyone & keep weaving those baskets. Kay in Michigan (cool, but dry) @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 88 Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 00:01:19 -0800 (PST) From: Marcell Burke To: David Collins Hi David, I haven't written in to the list yet....I'm just learning to make baskets so I don't have a lot to contribute and I don't want to seem like I'm being critical.....I would really like it if people would share their patterns they talk about. Seems that this is the perfect place to talk about baskets and patterns....but they always say "e-mail" me privately. I guess I would like more talk about the "how to" of basket making. Sorry if I don't know what I'm talking about. Marcy Burke mcbrk@efn.org @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Weaver's Words Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 08:15:38 -0600 From: Dave Balleweg To: "Collins, David Weaver's Words" David, I don't write in very often, but enjoy reading WW's every issue. I have a question to put to everyone. I recently made a cathead basket for my sister's birthday present. I used brand new reed which is a wonderful creamy white color. I would like to keep the white color on this basket instead of staining it. Does anyone have any suggestions how to protect the white color of this basket? Thank you. Marcia Balleweg Wellston, Oklahoma @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Alcohol torches Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 06:53:46 -0800 (PST) From: Christine Wekwert To: davidc@iei.net David, In response to Jack Rothman's comment on burning hairs with a glass bottle. Yes, it is Pyrex, and it is never used indoors. Any person would know that using any kind of flame needs to use precautions. Also, there is never more than 1/2 inch of denatured alcohol in the bottle at any time. The bottle never even gets warm. When I finish this the alcohol always gets poured back into its original container. I feel safer using this method than using a propane torch like so many people do. The baskets I weave are used for personal gifts, so they are few and far between. Thank you for your response. Christine @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Dreams Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 11:44:34 -0500 From: Steve Steidel To: davidc@iei.net Hi Everyone, I haven't written in months and find myself writing in for the 3rd time this week. Sandi Howard - you are not alone in having basket dreams. My friend and room mate at last years NCBA convention spent an entire day making a beautiful Nantucket basket. That night she had a dream that she was weaving herself a pair of Nantucket shoes to match her purse! After a good laugh we all admitted to an occasional dream involving making baskets. I hope I have not mislead everyone about my wax linen egg basket patterns. I have had several requests for them through e-mail. I sell them for $3 and they are too long to type through e-mail. For the people who asked for the pattern I have offered to send it to them postage free. Sorry about that. I will be at NCBA convention and hope to meet some of you. I can just see us walking around sticking our noses close to everyone's name tag looking for a WW. So let's write the WW in BIG LETTERS and in RED. Fran Steidel @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 88 Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 10:44:45 -0600 From: "twobearz" To: "David Collins" Hi David and all the wonderful weavers out there! Recently I posted a message about dogwood being available. I've gotten so many requests. I'm afraid that I can't take any more requests this time around. Those that already responded will be getting all the supplies I will have come spring. Everyone is so terrific here...just like extended family. Shari Zabroski Wonder Lake, IL @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 88 Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 14:28:11 EST From: LBADRA@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net In a message dated 98-02-02 21:13:58 EST, you write: << The girls are 12-15 years old and there are 20 of them. I am going to donate all the supplies so I am trying to find a basket that wouldn't have handles and be easy enough for a first try >> Mandy...... This Friday I am teaching 60 5th graders basketweaving at their Colonial Days. These simple baskets are given to them with the base and first 2 rows completed. The spokes are 21" long. There are 10 of them. Base measures 5 x 5 inches. Upset. Then put in the weavers. (I have done the first 2 for them as we only have a little over an hour.) They will then do the next 5 rows. Last year they just tucked in the ends. This year we are doing a folded back and over border. (Kinda hard to explain, but I will more if you want, or I could send you a picture) There is no handle so pretty inexpensive. Good luck!!! Lynn in Indy P.S. - Can't wait for IBA convention. Are we displaying an @ on our nametags like last year???? @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: OH NO MORE SNOW! Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 15:00:10 -0500 From: Ernest C and Julie C Kleinlein To: David Collins References: 1 Hello to All, Nancy, so sorry to hear about your mom, and about your husbands mom and sister. I will say many prayers for all of you, and will keep you in my thoughts. We are not looking forward to the snow! We are forecasted to get 6 to 12 more inches of heavy wet snow, oh well, what can we do about it! Glad to hear you are coming along on your bridesmaids baskets, keep up the good work. Sandy Quackenbush, I just have to ask you, where were you raised? I went to school with some Quackenbush's in school(Windsor, New York) and that is just not a common name, so I thought I'd ask. You never know we could have gone to the same school, or lived in the same town! Everyone stay dry & warm winters not over yet! Julie @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: orders Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:08:39 -0500 From: The Rigterinks To: "'David Collins'" Hello Everyone First, thank you David for this list and everything that you put up with. If there were "saint" nominations, you would have ALOT of votes!! I have a show coming up in May, my first in 6 years, and have already been questioned about "taking orders"! I would love suggestions, comments, and any other helpful hints on taking orders at shows! Is this a good idea or not?!? Thanks for any and all help Diane @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Thanks Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:22:41 EST From: Qka42@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Hi all just a quick word of thanks to Dollie for the info on the weaver's stain. I can rest a little easier when Tracy sprays in the basket room now. We just need to get a little ventilation going in there because the stain does seem to make you a little loopy! Which can be good or not depending on how you look at it. We are loopy enough so we need more ventilation! I'm glad to see that you are feeling better? Thanks also to Lynn for the info on the IBA. Tracy and I will be there. I am even trying to get DeAnne to come. She has never been and I know that she will be impressed. Is there a listing of the free lectures available, I'm thinking we need to pack a picnic and stay all day! I don't think I could get the girls in that early though (ha!) but I can try. Thanks again to you all. David can't thank you enough for what you are doing. Gotta run. Quin where in Indpls. Its cold and cloudy.(could be worse.) @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Splintwoven Basketry Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 14:10:47 PST From: "Patty Savinski" To: davidc@iei.net Was someone looking for the book Splintwoven Basketry by Robin Taylor Daugherty? I remember someone looking for a book they thought was out of print and I think it was this one. It is an excellent book and I remember thinking what a shame it was it was no longer available. I have found it in a catalog so let me know and I'll send you the company name. Patty in not so sunny San Diego @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 88 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 21:42:50 +0900 From: "Vic & Darleena Jones" To: "David Collins" Hello Fellow Weavers, I hope all of our East Coast weavers are faring well in the weather. It looks like some pretty challenging weather on the coast. Diana F.: How are you doing in NJ? Have you found a good supplier and did you find that book? Cheri B: Your address doesn't work for me anymore. I know that you changed to ez but it's bouncing back. Are you completely snowed in yet? Julie in TN: It looks like you still have bad weather. Is that snow in your area again? My boys were wondering why everyone is having such a tough time this winter. Well, I was just watching the Today show and the weather report was on and it made me think about all of the weavers that may be effected and just wanted to drop a short note... back to crafting. Darleena in soggy Okinawa @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 85 Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 14:05:46 EST From: froggestow@juno.com (Roberta R Comstock) To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 Subject: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 85 David - It's always exciting for me to see WW pass another milestone. Wow! Over 400 subscribers! Thanks to you! Joy Moody - On the round vs. flat reed question, I really love working with round reed. But am doing a fair amount of flat reed recently. If the scale of the materials is not consistent with the size and potential function of the basket, it won't seem right. I try to make baskets that aren't much like cheap imports. I see a lot of cheap imports in flat materials, too, though. I haven't had a chance to work with oak splits yet, but am eagerly anticipating it. Some of my favorite collected baskets are oak. I don't sell my baskets, so have no feel for that point. When shopping for baskets, I check for quality in the design and execution of the work, regardless of the materials used. Price is not always a factor. Marci - You can email Martha Wetherby at marthawetherby@cyberport.net My copy of her Basket News does mention a business card basket. Her website is www.basketshop.com. As far as I know, she is still in New Hampshire. Let us know how your demo goes. Will you be working on your own projects for people to watch, or encouraging visitors to try some hands-on work on a group project? We discussed this a while back. If you can't find it in back issues, let me know & I'll send you some of what I saved on the demo topic. Julie C Kleinlein - I think Marcia Honig and Wanda Graham from my local guild are going to NCBA in March. I believe they both teach there every year & really seem to have a good time. I'll be thinking about you & all that fun you're having. Bert Comstock Independence, MO @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Easy basket Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 16:28:51 -0800 From: Vicki Schmidt To: David Collins Hi fellow weavers, I finished another unwanted basket. Three more I will have cleaned up and can start on some wanted baskets. For Mandy: our 8th graders did a cultural arts unit. The instructor did a napkin basket with the boys and girls. There were 20 students in each class and they only had one hour and 30 minutes to work on it. Some of course had to come back and finish. However the students did not put a rim on their basket. It was merely tucked all the way around. I was very skeptical but it really turned out nice. Hope that helps> Vicki - where it is just cold with NO snow. @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 86 Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 16:30:10 EST From: froggestow@juno.com (Roberta R Comstock) To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 86 Hello Weavers Worders - Would someone please explain the characteristics of a Nantucket basket to me? I thought they were made on a wood base with a slot around the edge for inserting the staves and then woven (usually over a mold) with very fine splints or cane and finished with a wood rim pinned in place. Is this really what they are? Are they ever made with round weavers? How do those of you who make them describe them? Nony Paquette - I don't really have a clue about how you got subscribed to Weavers Words, but my guess would be that you have a secret pal who requested a 'gift subscription' for you. You might try looking at the list of subscribers on the WW web page and see who you know there. What a nice surprise! Welcome. Alice Edwards - Enjoyed meeting you at the Woven Circle meeting last weekend. Did you get your cookie cooler basket finished? I finally put the rim on mine last night. I think a tea stain will be appropriate for a Chinese basket. :=) Bert Comstock Independence, MO @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ If for any you would ever like to cancel your subscription, simply send me a message with "unsubscribe" as your subject.