"Weavers Words" Vol. 1 Iss. 81 Compiled By: David Collins Snail Mail: 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 Owned By: Weavers Everywhere Date Sent: January 13, 1998 Subscribers: 391 Back Issues: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/5998/ Basket Biddin' Auction: http://members.tripod.com/~Basket_Biddin/ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Hi Everyone, ***IMPORTANT INFORMATION*** ***PLEASE READ BEFORE PRINTING*** 1.) Highlight entire issue. 2.) Click cut or copy. 3.) Paste issue into a word processor of your choosing. 4.) Now Print. ***AUCTION INFORMATION*** Mrs. Myra Stutler has put her Jeremiah Basket on the Basket Biddin' auction page. If you're interested go to the Basket Biddin' webpage and read how to place a bid. Her auction ends 01/23/98. GOOD LUCK! Anyone can put something up for auction. Basket Biddin' Auction: http://members.tripod.com/~Basket_Biddin/ ***INDY WEAVE 98 INFORMATION *** Raffle committee chairpersons, Norma Collins & Pat Steinmetz, for "Indy Weave 98" need raffle item donations for convention. "Indy Weave 98" will be held at the Adams Mark Motel in Indianapolis on March 26th through March 29th 1998. Donations can be anything basket related: jewelry, clothing, books, baskets, supplies, kits, etc. Anything that you yourself would be willing to buy a raffle ticket for. We need your donations by March 1st 1998 so we can be organized and prepared for a wonderful time. Thank you in advance. Send items to: "Indy Weave 98" c/o Norma Collins 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219-5334 317-899-5747317-899-5747 ***PERSONAL MESSAGE*** I have added a page to the Weaver's Words webpage. It contains some of my favorite links/stuff. I was bored yesterday. If anyone has a basketry page that they would like added, I will gladly do so. I won't add a link without permission though. I will include you banner also if I can pull it from your site. The reason is because I'm limited on web space. It has just now come to my attention that we do indeed have at least one child who subscribes to Weaver's Words. In order to protect the innocence of any minor subscribers I have removed the "offensive" link. So I guess I'm not a total jerk. I apologize to any parents whose children came across this link. A warning though: there is content 1000 times more offensive on the internet. There are programs that will block most offensive material. Please forgive me :-(. David P.S. Lets consider this a dead issue. We're all allowed to make a mistake in our life. It just so happens it took me 27 years to make my first :-). That has to be some sort of record. Back To Weaving!!! P.S.S. For those of you who watch "Seinfeld". SERENITY NOW!!! SERENITY NOW!!! @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:59:12 EST From: ABAUCH Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) To: davidc@iei.net Dear David I just realized that I could E-mail you by hitting the reply button on the screen - Uh, duh! Anyway I wanted to ask that you send Weaver's Words to my account, LMBauch@AOL.Com. That way my Basket stuff is separated from my husband's sports postings! I enjoy reading the posts especially because of the sharing, both basket weaving and personal. I 1st took a few classes with a wonderful instructor, Liz Lapham, in Syracuse, NY about 11 years ago. She moved and it took a move to Easton, PA and finally Joining The Basketmakers Guild of NJ to meet some other wonderful instructors. The time in between I learned a lot from books and patterns and have been very grateful that I found some great instructors that way. In general, I had no way to ask questions, compare notes, or network to find out more about what's "out there" This has been great for a lot of people, I know. I Do have A QUESTION for the instructors out there. I teach basketweaving at a local community college. I've been doing it for about 2 1/2 years now so I have a group of returners classes and newbies at each class. Now that there are a enough experienced weavers, I've started offering a few classes that call for experienced weavers - folks that have done at least 4 baskets so. My real question is - how do you estimate how much time it will take a class to make a basket? The College charges a Class fee of about $9 -11 per night and I can collect materials fees. So most people seem to like the idea of finishing a basket in a night - or 2. I've scheduled 3 hour classes (6:30 to (9:30) so that's my time frame. Is there a Magic formula? - Each new type of weaving = 1/2 hour of learning time: or 9 rows of weaving + 1 handle + 1 rim = 3 hours.? I love it when they finish sooner that I estimated (Must be because of the instructor ;>)), but I feel badly when a large portion of the class is running late. One or two, I understand. But I still can't predict it. Some classes I was sure would be really tight and they finished early! Go figure! Anyway, I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts on this. Thanks! and Take care Laurie from Sunny Easton, PA @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 80 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:05:00 -0800 (PST) From: Surf City To: David Collins Dear David, Hi! My name is Emily May Ryssman and I am 9 years old and I love baskets and I love the many letter you already send to me and I don't like your oh my goodness thing either I hope you can make it go away but my mommy said maybe you can and maybe you can not but I want to keep the letters thank you for the letters!!!!!! I think you are very nice love, Emily May @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 80 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:05:30 -0500 From: MYLOIS Organization: Prodigy Internet To: David Collins References: 1 Hi David: Just wanted to let you know I agree with you wholeheartedly about keeping the link. We all have choices -- we can choose to click or not to click on it. I would never force my will nor do I have the right to force my will on anyone else or their desires. I am a Christian, too, but my beliefs and views are between me and God and if they aren't the same as someone else's I respect that but do not expect things to get changed just because of me. We humans sometimes have an exaggerated idea of our importance. They do have programs that you can buy if you have children to lock them out of areas you don't feel are right. The bottom line is (and I raised 3 sons) that if you protect your children too much from the real world they will have an even more difficult time surviving in this world. I seriously doubt that anything on your newsletter or link will scar anybody -- especially if they don't click on it! Also to Sandra W: I am going to Atkinson's Country House in Lennon, Michigan on Thursday. My oldest son live a short distance from there so my daughter-in-law and I are going to make a day of it. It is a 2 hour ride from my house. Will let you know what all I find out. If anybody wants me to check out anything just e-mail me: mylois@prodigy.net @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 80 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:38:13 +0900 From: "Vic & Darleena Jones" To: "David Collins" Hello to David and fellow weavers, To David: Thank you for all of the great postcards and the link to the source. I have used it and I guess I have an eye for what I will send to someone, what I think is cute... then there's the oh my goodness stuff. I do realize that you didn't write it and you obviously had not sent it to us so I would not associate it with any preference of yours.. or mine. Thank you for not censoring your page. I do believe that tolerance is part of being a Christian, as you obviously know and have displayed. The Coffee Table Basket: I have the basket made but since it doesn't have a hardwood handle to help support the sides, my husband Vic has helped me on this one. It has a wood bottom insert with wood 1x1 corner posts going up the inside. Then it has 1x1 braces around the inside rim. This will help to support the lid and we're thinking of hinging the lid to the inside frame work. It's as much a wood project as a basket project. It also has 1x1 runners on the bottom to get it up off of the floor. We have all of the pieces cut out but I need to stain the basket before I put the frame work into it. The trip in June is being planned a bit every day. It's hard to make it enjoyable, visit friends along the way, see a few sites and show up at our next base on time. Especially if your hubby hates to site see! Our first stop is in Everson Washington. We'll be there about 5 days visiting and getting the truck in traveling order. Any suggestions on places to shop for interesting local artwork, crafts and supplies or a local cookbook? I collect cookbooks and I have a great one from the marketplace in Seattle and would like to add to my collection on the trip. We'll be stopping in Spokane ... then Northwood Ohio... then in Mass and New York. I'll sign off by telling you that the weather is finally dry today. Our yards are like big soggy sponges and we could use a dry week. The temp is from 58 - 70 and it's very comfortable... in a raincoat! Happy weaving! Darleena in Okinawa @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 80 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:21:04 -0800 From: Judy Clark To: David Collins References: 1 Hi David, Although I don't contribute to WW often, I read every word the moment it arrives. We are so fortunate to have this communication and I sure thank you for it. I'm not sure if some of the newer basket weavers know how lucky they are to have people such as Judy Olney and many others answer their basket questions. What fantastic teachers to share their talents so freely. I go to Conventions and Workshops every year and belong to a Guild who brings in wonderful teachers several times a year. I've been weaving for 17 years and am still learning. I choose to weave for pleasure only. I truly appreciate "teachers" who are willing to share with me. I'd suggest to any new weavers - if the opportunity ever comes up "TAKE CLASSES" and go to workshops and conventions. Besides always learning something new they are FUN!!! David - I agree about the pettiness of some people. The stand you took on the link to the postcards was proper. Noone is forced to LOOK at anything they choose not to. I find your humor a great addition to this fantastic list. Please continue to do exactly as you are doing. You've got a great deal of support out here. Your at the top of my list of really neat people. Happy weaving all and have a GREAT "1998". Judy Clark - Crossroad Weavers Guild - Michigan @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: David! Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:48:07 +0000 From: webfoot1@together.net To: "davidc@iei.net" David Regarding Mrs. Remenak's remarks! Don't get worried about them! I looked at that website and was surprised but not offended! Remember, there is a real world and a fake world out there! We are supposedly adults and can censor things! That website has been sent to me by other people! You are doing a great job! Jack Rothmann Happy New Year To All The Basketweavers!!!!! @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: WW V1 I80 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:22:33 -0500 From: Ellen Dewkett Organization: Greenwood Genetic Center To: davidc@iei.net Hi, fellow weavers, I've been reading WW lately, but haven't had anything to contribute. I haven't been weaving since Christmas because the weekend weather has been too good. I've been out taking long walks and cleaning up my flower beds. I've got bulbs popping up already. I'm afraid they'll be in for a rude shock when the weather gets cold again. I have a couple of orders waiting so I guess I'll have to get started on them soon, good weather or not. One of them is a chair bottom which I haven't done in a while so I'm looking forward to that. The real reason I wrote right now was to say this: David, you have every right to include what you want on your Web page. That's all I'm going to say because I don't want to start a ruckus. Happy Weaving! Ellen Ninety Six, SC (where it won't be long before flowers are blooming) @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Weaving Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:50:04 -0600 From: catslapbaskets@webtv.net (russell/karen mitchell) To: davidc@iei.net Dear David and Basket Weavers, I really liked the " post it note mold" suggestion....what a good idea! I make molds for my cedar necklaces using using one or two pieces of cardboard covered with masking tape. They hold up fairly well and would probably even be better if I were to use more moisture resistant tape. I broke a handle on a favorite basket, it was my first original design....so I want to say thank you to everyone for their past hints on how to repair handles.....I am all set to fix it and I have to get it done soon as it is one of Bouncer the cat's favorite resting places! We are finally getting close to finishing the work we have been doing on our kitchen, we painted old dark kitchen cabinets white and they really look good, but I can no longer stick my post it notes up on the cabinet to remind me of up coming events and appointments. So I bought a framed cork board to hang on the wall....well that didn't have quite the look I was going for either SO I took half inch flat reed and tucked it in between the cork and the frame(there was plenty of room) and wove a 3 over 3 under twill pattern....it looks great. I stained the frame before I started and used variegated/marbled reed that I got from Gratiot Lakes, it has alot of color and "texture" without having to stain it. Thanks to all who have been sending in ideas, hints, and nifty gadgets that are helpful. Really appreciate all the "new" people and everyone's sharing of weaving and life experiences. David, I really appreciate all your work to keep this list going and look forward to seeing it in my email.....I hope you won't let the narrow views of some people get you down, I commend you for printing everything and not editing or censoring it. To the Weaver who was offended by the electronic card site, don't click on it....there are lots of things on the internet that I would rather not see, so I don't look! I recommend that policy for everyone change yourself, do not try to change or JUDGE others. I think that our actions speak louder than words and David your actions of keeping this list going in spite of everything seems to me to be a very nice, kind, good and one might say Christian thing to do. I think as a show of support everyone reading this list should go to the web site and click on the ad that pays David 2 cents. And that is my 2 cents worth!! After a long "dry spell" of no snow it is coming down now and we have a couple of inches of the white stuff, it is fluffy and light so it shouldn't be too hard to shovel. Especially since I will be _watching _ as Russell shovels!! LOL Karen, From the very frozen land of 10,000 skating rinks Minnesota! HAPPY WEAVING! KAREN THE CAT'S ON MY LAP CREATIONS! @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Weavers Words Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:23:44 EST From: Jvoconnor1 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) To: davidc@iei.net Just wanted to send Judy Olney a BIG thank you for the detailed instructions on round baskets that I asked for. Now that you mention it, I do recall that when I made Martha Wetherbee (sp?) baskets with my teacher, Susan Kavicky, she had a contraption that we used that had a pencil as a pointer so we could make sure our basket was even all the way around. Thanks for jogging my memory. (There was someone else who had suggestions too and I can't remember now..but thank you, too.) I saved that and put it in my Basketweaving Notebook to save for the next time attempt a round basket. Kay Ames - you mentioned that Flo Hoppe has a book that shows how to do waxed linen pouches. What is the name of the book? I would love to try to teach myself how to do this because it is a project that I could easily take with me to work and school. Lastly, I have a poem to pass along to you guys (my basketweaving friends) that was sent to me by my penpal in New York: FRIENDS WITHOUT FACES (and some that do) We sit and we type, and we stare at our screens We all have to wonder, what this possibly means. With our mouse we roam, through the rooms in a maze Looking for something or someone, as we sit in a daze. We chat with each other, we type all our woes Small groups we do form, and gang up on our foes. We wait for somebody, to type out our name We want recognition, but it is always the same. We give kisses and hugs, and sometimes flirt In IMs we chat deeply, and reveal why we hurt. We do form friendships - but - why we don't know But some of these friendships, will flourish and grow. Why is it on screen, we can be so bold Telling our secrets, that have never been told. Why is it we share, the thoughts in our mind With those we can't see, as though we were blind. The answer is simple, it is as clear as a bell. We all have our problems, and need someone to tell. We can't tell real people, but tell someone we must So we turn to the 'puter, and to those we can trust. Even though it is crazy, the truth still remains They are Friends Without Faces, and odd little names. --Author Unknown Take this week to have fun and be sure to let those "friends without faces" know how much you appreciate them. "Happy Online Friendship Week" to all my basket buddies out there! Even though I don't do much weaving myself, I can live my favorite hobby vicariously through you. Sandi Howard Mundelein, IL @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Thank you for your communication Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:26:10 -0500 From: "Carolyn Megginson" To: "David Collins" Dear Weavers, I sent this original rambling off the day after Christmas but think it was lost in cyberspace. I want to especially thank you (David) for all the time and effort extended in our behalf. Next I want to thank your Mother for raising such a fine Son. Every letter has been important to me. I am given encouragement and ideas. Even times when I don't agree it causes me to think and give more consideration to the other persons point of view. THANK YOU ONE AND ALL. I am looking forward to a New Year of basket weaving. My creative juices seen to be at a standstill at the present time. I always like to come up with new baskets to mingle in with the old standbys. This is where I miss my craft shows, people often ask for a basket to serve a particular function and this helps a lot. I have been surprised at the way some sell. I am also a pattern junkie. We had a lot of interest in the East Coast from new customers. A younger group seems to be realizing the value of a basket. Guess I will close since I am low on ideas, just high on appreciation. Thank you again, Carolyn of Suffolk @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: re: lost WW subscriber Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:48:47 -0500 From: "Kathleen M. Calvert" To: davidc@iei.net Hi David, Good for you! I loved all the postcards you have sent. The "unsubscriber" is on the losing end. There is no need for you to apologize to anyone. Sorry she got your goat, but glad you nipped it. Take care! Kathi Calvert @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Weaver's Words Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:34:29 -0600 From: "K. Gomm" Organization: UWM To: davidc@iei.net Hi, My name is Kathryn, and I lurk a lot on Weaver's Words. This time, however, I have a question. My husband and I will be traveling to England this spring, and I'm looking for suggestions of places to visit. I am particularly interested in historical basket sites, whether it's basket makers, willow beds, museums, or other similar places. I would also like to visit a basketry shop in England somewhere. I am primarily a willow weaver, so am looking for willow-related places. If anyone can help, I would appreciate any guidance. Thanks, Kathryn Milwaukee, WI @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 80 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:12:33, -0500 From: BDKE97B@prodigy.com (MRS BILLIE A DORRIS) To: davidc@iei.net David, don't give up on us. I am constantly amazed these days by the things people are offended by. No one is forcing anyone to read anything on the web. In fact to read it you have to purposely find it. Actually I haven't even noticed it on the web page but now that I know I'll have to check it out. Kay Ames, glad you liked the tip about the post-a-note pad. I was trying to weave it on my fingers as I normally do and as you described but it just wasn't working so I discovered the note pad. I am always looking for different molds. I recently did one on the lid of the Listerine bottle. I agree that it's hard to weave some of the on the mold but I have found that it does help me control the shape. I also made one on a small Styrofoam ball. I wanted a very round shape that was good so I pinned the base to the ball and then wove the sides and cut the ball out as the basket slopped back in at the top. Actually it was a double wall. I had the spokes twice as long as usual. Twined up the mold with the inner wall -wove a partial border to get the spokes back to the outside and then used the three rod wale coming back down the outside. I wove the outer border as a small foot for the basket to rest on. It was amazing how strong the linen it when you double it. Don't ask me why I do these things as the certainly aren't sellable. I guess that's where my creativity comes in as I am not very good at original designs but I sure do like figuring out how to do them. I also was glad to hear that you thought the full twinning didn't cover as well. I thought it was just me and my inexperience at it. Lois, Kathy Halter at Royalwood has many beginner waxed linen patterns. You might even consider one of the kits as the thread isn't cheap until you know you really want to do it. A lot o the ones that I am doing are just a normal pattern downsized. I taught the guild last year(I tried to teach them but they didn't seem to take very well to it. Actually heard several never agains.) I did a provender basket-just the basic base twined to size with a border and turn the sides up with the handle. There are lots of patterns out there and Judy Wilson has some wonder patterns and kits but would not recommend them until you have done some practice on simpler ones. I hope that all of our friends in the northeast and Maine in particular are ok with all the miserable weather. If you don't have power then you aren't able to read this but we are thinking about you. As for Nantuckets-there is a quote about it was the worst of times and the best of times. I think that applies to Nant. as well. They can be super easy and the most fulfilling thing you have woven and at the same time the most frustrating. The preparation time sometimes takes more time than the actual weaving. Any one seen the new Lillian Vernon catalog?(actually it's comes from Va. Beach) It has a Nantucket style basket woven to hold two rolls of toilet paper--GAG!!! First of all it is nothing at all like a nantucket. Looks in the picture as it is round reed. Anyway the bottom line is that it is TACKY. So now the public will really want to know what Nant. are so expensive since you can get one through the catalogue cheap. Enough for now. Billie in Va. Beach @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: Weaver's Words Update Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:33:43 -0500 From: MYLOIS Organization: Prodigy Internet To: David Collins References: 1 Hi Everybody: Just want you all to know I have a basket up on the Biddin Auction -- a Jeremiah Basket. It is stained in a golden oak. Myra mylois@prodigy.net @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 78 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:30:45 EST From: froggestow@juno.com (Roberta R Comstock) To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 Judith Olney - I really like your suggestions for evening up a round basket. Thanks for being so helpful! Coleen Hickey - Thanks for telling us about the Basketry Express magazine. It's good to know there's a good basket publication that's making a go of it. Marty Holihan - Your notes on how to keep a round basket even while weaving it are an excellent counterpoint to Judith's fix-it suggestions! Thanks. Diane Rigterink - I have no suggestions for your upcoming show, but wish you the best of luck with it. Joanne Jackson - The few times I've seen driftwood for sale, it was grossly overpriced. You don't have to go to exotic places to find it. I often find it along rivers or creeks and on the shores of local lakes. Deadwood from out in the woods is often nicely weathered too. Sometimes I find pieces that have beaver tooth marks on the chewed ends. Even branches from trees, shrubs and vines in your yard have potential for use in lieu of actual driftwood. You can trim interesting pieces to the desired size with pruning shears, or whittle the ends with a pocket knife to remove splintery points. If you really want the tumbled rounded corners found on wood that has been in the water for a long time, tumble the pieces in a rock tumbler. Or put them in a plastic jar with some coarse sand/fine gravel and some water, screw the lid on firmly, and put the whole jar in your washing machine for a week or two (so it will agitate with every load of wash you do). That spongy textured volcanic rock that is sold for landscaping is wonderfully abrasive for this task. That's what is frequently used to 'weather' stone-washed denims. (I once found a couple of the stones in the pocket of a new pair of jeans.) You might want to tape the lid on and tie the jar into an old stocking - to keep the sand or gravel from getting loose in the washer if the lid does work loose. After the tumbling, spread the pieces on a screen or tray outdoors where they can weather to that nice gray color. Turn them occasionally. Make sure they are thoroughly dry before storing them inside or using them. Or perhaps we could work out a trade? Bert Comstock Independence, MO @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 79 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:30:45 EST From: froggestow@juno.com (Roberta R Comstock) To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 Mary Carty - I hope you got some takers for your antler class and that a good time was had by all. Too bad you're out of my driving range! Billie Dorris - The twined linen class at guild meeting last week was a lot of fun. Everyone was impressed by your suggestion for using little note pads as molds. I did the little necklace pouch kit 'by the book' - according to the directions given by the instructor. It turned out fine, but neither option was a color combination I really like. So I started another one at home right away, only a little bigger. I intended to make a belt pouch of it, but it ended up being a narrow-necked vase instead because I kept working tighter and tighter as I went up the sides. Oops! Now I'm doing one on a mold of folded tissue box cardboard covered with clear plastic packing tape. This one Really Will be a belt pouch, with a fold-over flap closure and belt loops on the back side! I'm adding some beads and doing a 2-color twined pattern on the front. Three rows of twining waxed linen equals one square on a charted knitting pattern. Winnie Blaz - Thanks for the spacing tip. Lucille Cote - My opinion is that when you paid your teacher for your lessons you were also paying her for whatever pattern she was teaching. It seems pretty tacky (to me) for her to have just copied your pattern without asking! I take it you won't be showing her your new designs in the future. Bert Comstock Independence, MO @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 80 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:30:45 EST From: froggestow@juno.com (Roberta R Comstock) To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 David - It's always a joy to find Weavers Words in my email, but this issue it was also a birthday present! Thank You Very Much! When somebody asked me recently if I was 29 and holding, I had to tell her "No! I'm 55 now and that means I can buy reduced price 'seniors' tickets at the movies!." I'm also noticing other offers to 'seniors' aged 55 or older - discounts at the Salvation Army thrift stores on Wednesdays, discounts on meals at some of the local eateries, etc. This could be a Good Thing for my budget, so I intend to enjoy it at every opportunity! Sharle Osborne - The Harrisons are growing willow to sell to basketmakers. I believe they are WW subscribers and will probably contact you directly. If you don't hear from them soon, let me know & I'll look up their address for you. I don't know of any national organization of basketry guilds, but the Handweavers Guild Of America (HGA) is getting more involved with basket weaving these days. I don't know if they have provisions for local guild chapters or basket groups. Deb Curtis - do you know? Maybe someone who lives in your area can tell you what exists at the State level out there. (I hadn't read Kay's post yet when I wrote this.) I think your group can be a guild if you want to be one, but don't know about how affiliating with a larger organization works. Kay Harradine (Ames) - My Great Aunt Ruth & her daughters used to keep a rain barrel to collect water for washing their hair and silks and wool sweaters. They were in Haigler, NE, so rain was not nearly as plentiful as what you get. I think they would strain the water through an ordinary sieve to remove insects or leaves that had fallen in. They would boil the water if they wanted to cook with it, but I don't remember any other special treatment. Guppies are top feeders, as are most minnows. They would probably both be good for keeping mosquitoes (and other aquatic larvae) down (maybe better than goldfish, and probably wouldn't generate as much waste to feed the algae). I don't know how well algae eaters would do in your climate, but you might try a couple and see if they can handle it. I like your notes on waxed linen twining too. I find it very comfortable and natural to work over my holding finger, especially when starting a new pouch. When I tried 2 color patterning, I was twining with artificial sinew in black and natural tan. I found I got better pattern definition if I held the back twiner taut and looped the front twiner over and around it and then back to the front of the piece. It was somewhat awkward at first, after establishing a rhythm of even twining, but I like the effect much better. You have to be careful not to pull the front color too tight or it will pull the back twiner forward into view. Lois Keener - I'm working on patterns for my twined linen belt pouch and a little round necklace pouch. Would you like to try them for me and see if they make sense? Sandra W. - Thanks for the information about Sandy Atkinson's PBS show. I had heard of it a while back, but didn't know it was an ongoing current program. I'll see if we can get it here. Bert Comstock Independence MO - where we keep getting predictions of winter cold fronts, but haven't had a bad one yet. @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Weaver's Words Update Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:37:41, -0500 From: BDKE97B@prodigy.com (MRS BILLIE A DORRIS) To: davidc@iei.net David et.al, Wanted to explain my description of the "Nantucket toilet paper holder" that I wrote yesterday. I am afraid I may have offended some people unintentionally. I was not objecting to the making of baskets to hold said product but rather the fact that they are trying to pass this off as a Nantucket style basket. The public is already confused enough about the origin of baskets and this will only perpetuate the mess. I do apologize if any one was upset by my disparagement of a type of basket they might make. PS David you can delete this next comment if you like. I was certainly not aware that we were not all adults on WW. I'm not sure that it makes any difference but now that we know that it might change the content of the messages so as not to upset any tender ears. Actually I feel that it is the parents responsibility to monitor their children not yours or mine. Political correctness has become so pervasive that we are no long able to speak our minds without offending someone. I doubt if any of us ever sets out to purposely offend any one but it does happen sometimes but the adult attitude is to understand that it wasn't intentional and let it go. Billie in rainy Va. Beach. @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: Weaver's Words Update Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 08:47:11 EST From: JSarge8230 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) To: davidc@iei.net Dear Weavers Tip for carrying tools. I purchased a perfect tool carrier at the local Economy Tackle in Sarasota, Fla. It is blue plastic mesh, with 6 large pockets to hold fish lures. It rolls up and I can see through it. Cost $18. I also bought a wonderful canvas tool bag for $25 at Boat US. I find great items in the fishing and boating stores as you can tell. Love Weaver's World David. Thank you for the fun address at ohmygoodness. Joyce @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: Weaver's Words Update Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:36:34 EST From: LindaClift Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) To: davidc@iei.net David: Don't worry about the link. You know, you can only get there if you click on it so ,it, like most things in life becomes a matter of individual choice. I appreciate more than words can express the service you render to weavers everywhere by maintaining this list for us. I have gained such a wealth of knowledge from my fellow list members. The value of the warmth and friendship of others who love weaving as I do can not be measured. Thank you for what your list adds to my life. I wish you and all the members of this group only the best.....lets let bygones be bygones everyone..... Happy weaving, Linda Clifton from hot, now cold and blustery central Pennsylvania @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: Northeast Ice Storm Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:11:45 EST From: Mlf746 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) To: davidc@iei.net Happy January, As I sit here in my cozy, warm computer room, I am wondering about our friends in the Northeast. I hope you will all check in and let us know you are ok, or let us know if you need anything. I am working on a Nantucket and as I do I always say I am going to make more of these and then I get to the dreaded rim. I hope to use all the tips I have been reading here to get me through this one without all those curse words. THanks everyone for sharing your ideas. Just saw "Good Will Hunting" and "As Good As It Gets" both were really great movies. Mary Lynn/ Winthrop Harbor, IL @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ If for any you would ever like to cancel your subscription, simply send me a message with "unsubscribe" as your subject.